1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, You're not the guy turned the wrench, 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: You're the guy paying the bill. Your opinion counts on 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: the quality of the repair and the procedure or process 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: by which it was done fixed. Like the Car Doctor, 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a disconnected varier cable if people don't work on 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: somebody adutrical. So I'm scared to prayer to check my 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: favorite cable solution now because the prayer might not start. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, you should be able to connect and disconnect 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the cable back and forth without hurting the car. Welcome 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: to the radio home of ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five, five six 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: and now quiet and I'm broadcasting running. The responsibility of 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: taking care of a car really needs to be handed 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: down to the next generation. It's gonna be a problem. 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Held on and welcome Ronini in the Car Doctor talking 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: to you today. You know I've noticed this that we 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: teach the kids how to drive we make sure they 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: get driver's licenses, we try to help them, maybe we 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: try to help them get into a car, and or 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: we let them drive ours. But do we talk to 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: them enough about here's how to take care of it, 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: here's the responsibility. And I don't know that we are 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: because I wonder if if we as parents, the majority 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: of you know how to take care of a car 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: or even think about it. Is it just a giant appliance, 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's a generational thing. It's it's something I've noticed 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: over time. I I work out at a local gym, 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, just and I do all right trying to 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna live forever, right, I gotta keep 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: fixing cars. And I'm the old guy. I mean I am. 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm the old guy there and or one of the 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: old guys. And you listen. You learn a lot by listening. 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: And I listened to the kids to me, their kids, 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: they're thirty years old, they're thirty five years old, and 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: they're talking about their lease cars. And a lot of 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: them don't buy cars because their parents didn't buy cars, 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: because they leased cars. Because that's what they were taught 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and and that's what the next generation is being raised 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: on Lisa car don't know the next generation is being 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: leased on. Don't even own a car, right, It's it's 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: uber and Lyft and all the all the ride services. 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: But who's going to Somewhere along the way. Somebody has 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: to fix these cars because a lot of these younger 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: people that aren't being explained the value of repairing something 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: are are are gonna be left high and dry, and 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to catch up, because once you fall behind, 51 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's hard to catch up in 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: terms of of of a culture or a tradition. Betty 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and Antonino our dear friends of my wife and ours, 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: and and we love them to death. They're a little older, 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: and they're just a cute older couple and they're they're 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: they're just funny how they how they relate to a car. 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Tanino had the B eight eight Lincoln town Car that 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: we talked about from time to time here on the 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: show and had a hundred fifty hundred, sixty thousand miles 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: on it. And Tanino was of the school of thought 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: that my mechanic can fix it and I can drive 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: it forever. And I kept, you know, Tanino, I'm running 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: out of parts the cars forty years old, all right. 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: So he finally went out and after the last go round, 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: I forget what it was we couldn't get six seven 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: months ago. And they purchased for good, better or or worse, 67 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Aeen Chevy and Pala. And it's not that it's a 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: problem car, but the electronics that are in this car 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: are are just this really is right. Brothers to Space Shuttle, okay. 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: And they came over the other day. Antonino's telling me 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: he gets his first oil change free at the at 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the dealership and I said, fine, you know, he went 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: back back and he said, but now the odometer doesn't work. 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: And I said, well but this that doesn't make any sense, right, 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: come on, give me the keys. It was after dinner. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: We ran outside and I sat in the car, and yeah, 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: when the kid changed the oil reset, when he did 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: the oil change and did the reset, he never put 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: the odometer back up on the screen and he left 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: it like that. In Poor Tanino he's, you know, he's 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: just baffled by all this. He just couldn't relate to this. 82 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: He just where the odometer goes. He says, I'll go 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: see ron We'll we'll go there for dinner over the weekend. 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: So then I'm listening to Betty Anna talk his his wife, 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and she's you know, she's talking about the car and 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: how much they love the car, but you know, the 87 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: technology is overwhelming to them, and they're sorry that they 88 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: didn't replace the Lincoln sooner so that they could kind 89 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: of evolve into steps because Tanino still wants to maintain 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: the Chevy and Pala the way he maintained the Lincoln, 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: which is it's just night and day difference. And it 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: made me realize, you know, it's it's we're creatures of habit. 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: It's it's what we've been taught or it's what we've 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: done over the years, and it's hard to get out 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: of habit. And it's it's gonna be hard for to 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Nino not to maintain this Impela the way he maintained 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: his eight eight Lincoln, because obviously he's gonna go too 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: much and the kids driving the Accura is not going 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: to maintain it at all. So you know, how do 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: you reach that and how do you and and and 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't have that answer, I really don't. And I've 102 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: thought about this, and I've come to the conclusion that 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a question or a matter of 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: listening and explaining and and and hoping that people get it. 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: But I I just make this as a general statement. 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're going to see more cars in 107 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: the future down on the side of the road with 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: hoods up as a result of maintenance that wasn't done 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: because people didn't know to do it. And and and 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: that's where all this is. It's on the back of 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: my mind that it will be a couple of years 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: before we see the result. But that's what I think. Uh, 113 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: that's what I think is gonna happen. So um, just 114 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: something to think about that the responsibility of maintenance is 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: up to us. We have to explain it to the 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: next generation so they understand the value and they perform 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: it as as needed. Hello, welcome Running Needing the car doctor. 118 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: Let's uh, you've got to look going on there. Franklin Gage, 119 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: president of the Vintage Chevley Club of America, is gonna 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: be with us at two thirty. I'm sorry, down around 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour today and we're looking forward 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: to talking to Franklin. But right now, let's kick the 123 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: garage doors open. Jeremy in d C, the Capital um, 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: twelve Chevy crews. What's going on here, Jeremy? How can 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I help? Well? Happy New Year. I put a new 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: uh crankshaft seal on this baby. You know, we're behind 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the pollet and it's the one point for turbo the thing. 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I used the errands to blast the you know, the 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: bolt off it. So to get it off and to 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: put it back on, it's a procedure. Yeah, it's well, 131 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's what you've torqud to yield jobs where 132 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: ten and plus sixty degree easy. But of course I 133 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: don't have the special tool to hold this fricking coolly 134 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: and I can't really get a piebar as well, so 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I just you know, I put it in as far 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: as I could by hand holding it, you know, with 137 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: like a screwdriver, and then hit it with the air gun. 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that he's gonna do it? 139 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know how much it actually turned with 140 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: the air gun. So my backup plan was today, put 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: a new bolt on and do it by using a 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: torque stick. It's a twenty pounds, and then put a 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: little mark on the end of the you know the 144 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: their gun, um, you know, the socket, and then try 145 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: to blast that another sixty degrees. But do you think 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I'd be okay just leaving it from the first time 147 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: where I just you know, nailed it as hard as 148 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I could. Well, why don't we get after hand tightening. 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Why don't we try this? Because I think it would 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: be foolish and I'd be a hypocrite if I sat 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: here and I said, you know every special tool and 152 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: every special procedure, Jeremy, I've always followed the book. You know, 153 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes ought to repairs a gut call. Alright, brother, 154 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: it's sometimes sometimes you're gonna kiss it with the air 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: gun and you know you're gonna keep an eye on it. 156 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: So why don't you leave it where it is? If 157 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: you feel better? Given it another tap with the air gun. 158 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Good ahead, and then stake it or chisel market take 159 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: a long straight take a long flat blade chisel. Right, 160 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: tap the head of the bolt, make a mark on 161 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: the chisel, make a mark on the bolt flange, and 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: make a mark on the crank pulley. Alright, so now 163 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you know that's where it was, just mart twelve o'clock 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: and I right, that's fine, and just you know, I 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: make a mark on the pulley make a mark on 166 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: the bolt, you know, just put just put the face 167 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: of the chisel across both and if you come back 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: to it in two weeks, a month, or as you 169 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: service it for an oil change, if ever those marks 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: start to move, you'll know a good deal. Man. Well, 171 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate. So. I mean the fact that I didn't 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: you know, I did it as hard as I could 173 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: by hand, then I hit it with the air gun, 174 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: and the fact that I didn't necessarily see it move 175 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot. That's not something I 176 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: gotta concern myself with. You don't think I don't think 177 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: your eye would see it. One One thing. One thing 178 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: to think about if you ever do it again. You know, 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: you probably put a little dab You can put a 180 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: little dab of a lock tight or a thread lock 181 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: on the on the threads. Put a little oil under 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: the flange of the bolt. Yeah, exactly, That's what I 183 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: was worried. There's too much friction into there, and that's 184 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: what kept it from moving. Right. So, because the idea 185 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: is you're gonna you're gonna spin the head of the 186 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: bolt all the A lot of the bolts today, I 187 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't say, well, but a lot of the bolts today 188 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: are torsional orn that they twist, and that that amount 189 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: of twist is it's a very different porking type of 190 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: specification we run today, and it's it's it's very exact 191 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: and very pronounced. But try it the way I did it, 192 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I bet you'll be fun. Just keep 193 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: an eye on it all man, Apank you you're very welcome. 194 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Jeremy. How been new year to YouTube? Brother, 195 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Height five five five zero nine zero zero. 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: When we come back, Paul and Maryland, stick by the phone, 197 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: we'll be right there. I'm running any in the car doctor, 198 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: don't go away. Need advice on how they're maintaining that 199 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: classic g t O. Ron is the guy eight five 200 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, 201 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Paul and Maryland. Paul, 202 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: you're out with the car doctor, Sir, How can I help? Hey? Ron? 203 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: How you doing to picture? What's going on? Good good? 204 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to hook up a trailer break controller on 205 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: a Chevy Express Van and I need some guidance on 206 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: how to hook it in and see what's going on 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: with that. So are you you're you're you're using an 208 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: aftermarket install kit? Correct? Yes? And do they provide has 209 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, go ahead, I was gonna say, did 210 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: they provide instructions with it? I haven't to. I haven't 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: bought a controller yet. I'm still searching. Okay, So your 212 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: question is, because a lot of this is going to 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: be particular for the vehicle, is you want to see 214 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: the instructions before you buy the kit. You want to 215 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: see you want to see how specific they get and 216 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: just exactly what do they want you to do. And 217 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: here's here's the concern, all right, because a lot of this, 218 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: some of it, well I'll say, like this, some of 219 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: this is still plug and play, but some of this 220 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: also requires programming. I don't believe it will on a seventeen. 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: But the instructions should warn you ahead of time what's 222 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: going to be required on your end. Because sometimes, alright, 223 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: break light wiring is not break light wiring. Sometimes it's 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: a signal coming out of a UH as part of 225 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the can bus, coming out of a module that tells 226 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the bulb to turn on via digital signal. It's not 227 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: you know that technology everything, it's it's it's not. It's 228 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: not it's not always voltage and it I'm gonna say 229 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: it probably is on yours. But just to make the points, 230 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: everybody is aware of it. So you know, anytime I 231 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: see somebody starting or trying to get into something like this, 232 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I always encourage them. Listen, talk to the manufacturer. There's blogs, 233 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: there's forms, there's guys that have hooked it up before 234 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: you specific to your vehicle, specific to the kit you choose, 235 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: and you know, make the decision from there and and 236 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: don't necessarily choose it on price. Understood. Yeah, I'm trying 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: to get the best one. It's the truck's got the 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: toe package on it with the seven pin connector and 239 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: everything out on the bumper from the factory. So I'm 240 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: guessing and from the research I've done so far, there's 241 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: a wiring terminals or harness that ends up into the dash. 242 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: Well wait at if it's got the RPO toe package 243 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: installed in it, and so what makes if it's got 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the toe package on the bumper, why isn't the harness 245 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: in place? Maybe I misunderstand that. I'm I'm just a 246 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: early stages yere if I found just research online and everything, 247 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: we'll trying to set this up for my dad. Okay, 248 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: because if it has, if it has the if it 249 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: has the trailer connector in the bumper, the harness might 250 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: be there and it's a matter of or it might 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: just be a matter of connecting the bumper to a 252 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: junction block. Um in the uh it was it's probably 253 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: above the left left spring perch somewhere there is a 254 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: junction box there. Because what they'll do is they'll run 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: digital I've seen they'll run digital signal back to a 256 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: module located above the spare tire well on some of these, 257 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: and then from there it'll come out as simple voltage. 258 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: It will come out and they'll split it and they'll 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: make this going to the tail lamp assemblies and this 260 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: leg going to the trailer connector. Okay, so maybe you know, 261 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: if this has if this has the plug and the bumper, 262 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: this might be a conversation with the dealer saying, hey, 263 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: you know, here's the ven, here's the rp O, the 264 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: regular production option code list, which is likely on the 265 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: glove box door, all right, and if it's not there, 266 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: we're seeing a van that should be there on a 267 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: van either that or it's on top of the spare 268 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: tire or the jack information in the rear of the 269 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: vehicle wherever they store that. It's generally one of the 270 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: two places. But it's gonna be a case of, Hey, 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: here's the VN, here's the r p O codes, what 272 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: do I need to finish putting the trailer install? And 273 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: if I've already got the harness in the in the bumper, 274 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: it just might be that simple. So it might not 275 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: be that that big a deal. Um, And then worst 276 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: case scenario, somebody might have to go in with you know, 277 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: dealer level capable scan tool or the or the tool 278 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: itself and just turn it on. Believe it or not. 279 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: The car companies actually install a lot of options in 280 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: vehicles today, and sometimes the out right yeah, and sometimes 281 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: when you're when you when you want to make it work, 282 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: you're paying for the you know, when you check the 283 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: box to put X, Y or Z and into the car, 284 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: you're you're you're paying for them to turn it on 285 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: with software. But it's there. It's okay. I'll give you 286 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I bought my nineteen Silverado 287 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, and I wanted to 288 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and I wanted remote start the kit was. Let me 289 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: think for a second, like Bucks came with the remotes, 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: and it came with a jumper wire that they had 291 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: to install on the hood latch that told it when 292 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: the hood was up, it wouldn't allow the remote start 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to work. And and the rest of the expense was 294 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: that they had to turn it on with the factory 295 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: level tool. It was it really was. Everything was there. 296 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Everything was there, just it was programming. It really wasn't 297 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: hard to do so much more and more common, Like 298 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: you're saying, yeah, it's well, because listen, it's not. It's 299 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's so simple now with software. It's just 300 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: they they they they think of it like that. And 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: then if somebody finds out, hey it's there, we just 302 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: gotta turn them out with software. I guess what it's. 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: It's it's easier to sell it because it's not as expensive. 304 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: But that that should do it for you, all right, 305 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: And then well I got you. I'm also looking at 306 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: a newer FOD Escape. I wanted to get the thoughts 307 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: on those, like a seventeen or eight teen UM. I 308 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: have no problems with the Escape. I think they're one 309 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: of the better vehicles out there. On the road today, 310 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: like a lot, like a lot of the car companies. 311 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you're you're buying something news, I'm gonna 312 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: tell you know, condition dictates price. Make sure you drive it. Um, 313 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I prefer the yeah, yeah, I just prefer the seventeen 314 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and the eighteens over the nineteens because nineteen they started 315 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: start stop technology. And I know we're never gonna get 316 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: away from it, but if if I can avoid it 317 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: for a while, I plan to. UM. Don't have that. No, 318 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. They should be They should be straight up, 319 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, regular started up like you know, we got 320 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: intended and you know you drive it during the day, 321 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: drive it during the night. Make sure you get the 322 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: bigger engine. I like the two leader, not the little one. 323 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: And and then look at the mileage that's on it. 324 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: The one glitch that we're seeing with some of the 325 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: escapes is the sixteen, seventeen and eighteens. Some of them, 326 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: not all of them, are having head gaess got issues, 327 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: and to their credit, Ford is bending over backwards making 328 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: sure everybody gets what they need. I've witnessed it. I 329 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: just witnessed Forward buying back a customer's vehicle that they 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: deemed was gonna take too long to fix. They they 331 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: they gave the woman a brand new twenty nineteen that 332 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: she picked out, and they credited her her two years 333 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: of payments against that nineteen. So it's like she was 334 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: making payments on a nineteen. It's like she drove the 335 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: seventeen for free for two years. You can't ask for 336 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: more than that. So all right, sir um, with the 337 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: long term durability, you're not seeing the issues now there 338 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: they seem to be rocks. That's my engineer Tom. The 339 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: next time you call in, Tom's got one. He's got 340 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: a fourteen, and he's got a fifteen, and I think 341 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: it's got two hundred and forty thousand miles on so um, 342 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: something like that. So they tend to run forever. I'm 343 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: running Name in the Car Doctor right coming up next, 344 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Franklin Gage, the Vint and cheval Lay Club of America. 345 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, we're back right after this. Welcome back. Why 346 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: don't Name in the Car Doctor. You know it's it's funny, 347 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: right you uh, you never know what to expect, especially 348 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to automobiles and and and what transpires. 349 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: Last week, we're reading a recent issue of generator and distributor, 350 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: and Franklin Gage was listening. He is the president of 351 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: the Ventu Chevalley Club of America, and he wrote me 352 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: a note said, holy cow, he said, and there you 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: were and you were talking about me. And I said, 354 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: holy can. We're gonna interview you next week and he 355 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: went what And here he is, Franklin. You're there, sir, Yes, 356 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: how are you today, my friend? I'm fine. I'm at 357 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: the micam auction and kissing me where Macom very kindly 358 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: gives us a boot to find new members. Oh, I 359 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: bet you. That's got to be an experience to go through, right, 360 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: just to see all the cars that are down there. Yeah. Well, 361 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of tied up with the boots, but I 362 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: see a lot of them go by. Um, tell me 363 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: about the Beni Chevlet Club of America. Why why you know? 364 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: I mean, from your perspective, Franklin, what is it about 365 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: Chevrolet that that that turns you on like it does? Well, 366 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: it's very much accidental. Um. I was born in nineteen 367 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: fifty five and my mother had a new nineteen fifty 368 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: one Chevy in nineteen fifty one, and that was our 369 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: only car until nineteen seventy and Uh, I saw an 370 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: ad for one in nine in the back pages of 371 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: the paper in the class of fives, and just for fun, 372 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: I went to look at it, and somehow it ended 373 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: up in my garage, and somehow it reproduced and there 374 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: are more of them now, But the fifty one is 375 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: still in my sentimental favorite and uh, it gets driven 376 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: all over the country and is you know? And I 377 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: know the answer, and I just want you to state 378 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the obvious if it's true. But you know, is that 379 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: fifty one the sentimental favorite because it was Mom's car? Absolutely? 380 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: And I find most of the get into the collector 381 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: car hobby, usually their first car somehow reminds them of 382 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: their misspent youth. And uh, in this case, it happened 383 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: to be my mother's only car for nineteen years, and 384 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: my father didn't drive it all. So most of my 385 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: family memories are because of that car. And then I 386 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: remember I've never owned a new car, but I didn't 387 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: know a thing about collector cars. So I found someone 388 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: in the Yellow Pages to appraise it. And as we 389 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: were driving through the hills of the d C suburbs, Uh, 390 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: he said to me, well, if you buy it, you're 391 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: going to meet the nicest people in the world, and 392 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: someone came up and handed me a copy of the 393 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Generator and Distributor the first time I went to get 394 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: gas in and I immediately joined the Vintage Chevrolet Club 395 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: and it's been a very happy ride ever since. What's 396 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: the what's the oldest Chevrolet you've seen? Well, I guess 397 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: the oldest I've ever seen would be nineteen twelve. UM. 398 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: We had a member in Ohio that recently acquired one. UM. 399 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: The oldest one I have is the N seven. It's 400 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: my most impractical power but it's the most fun to drive. Well, 401 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: there's just something about a Chevy four cylinder that doesn't 402 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: go all that fast, but you there's until you drive one. 403 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: I agree. I guess I'm really not very good at 404 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: describing it. Is it? Is it? And is it? Do 405 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: you look at the cars and do you see American 406 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: history and each one the lifestyles, the culture at the 407 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: point where the country was at that Absolutely, And I 408 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: don't just look at the car. Every car has a 409 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: story behind it. Anyone can go on the Internet and 410 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: find an image for just about any car that was 411 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: ever built. But when you find out the stories of 412 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: marriages and you know, like my own childhood and theft one. Um, 413 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: there are always interesting stories and some of the cars, 414 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes a guy may have bought it new 415 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: and then he sold it, and then he had second 416 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: thoughts and years later found his car again. They're just 417 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: endless stories which we try to feature in the magazine 418 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: every month. Well, and I have to agree, I say 419 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: this all the time. I don't think fifty years from 420 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: now there's going to be a vintage Honda club. Nobody's 421 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about their mother's Toyota. It just doesn't 422 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: seem to fly like that. And well, I'm not sure, 423 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: you know, we may disagree on that. I don't know 424 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in fifty years, but I suspect 425 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that there will be some people, it may not be 426 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: as many as in our generation, who have an interest 427 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: in whatever they grew up with. Well, but then will 428 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: be will they be able to get parts for it? 429 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Is the other side of that. Well, then maybe they'll 430 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: start three D copying them or something. Well that's I 431 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: guess that's a possibility. But I often, I often think 432 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: that the vintage you know, car clubs such as the 433 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: Chevrolet you know, because you can still repair most of 434 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: what's out there. Correct, You can find something somewhere that 435 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: will either the right party, you can find something that 436 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: will work. Yeah. So I have friends in the hobby 437 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: though who have some pretty rare cars and if they 438 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: have to they if you have enough money, you get 439 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: the part made, or if you have enough talent, you 440 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: do it yourself. Um. But um, I would just love 441 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: for your listeners who have an interest in vintage Chevy 442 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: Is to check us out on the web where das 443 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: in Vintage cheve see as in Chevrolet, see as in 444 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: club A as in America dot org. So it's v 445 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: c c A dot org. And we'll we'll, we'll, we'll 446 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: get that up on the air again. We'll actually put 447 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: it up on our Facebook page for you. We know 448 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: that that's very nice of you. I guess we have 449 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: to admit you and I don't know each other, but 450 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I do because I managed to tune 451 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: you in the hills of West Virginia every so often. Well, 452 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: you know that's one thing about about old car guys, right, 453 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: we uh we we we know a lot of people 454 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: we haven't met yet, and um, you know, and I 455 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: the picture of you on your website and setting in 456 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: your chevy well, and you know, so there's my chevy story, right. 457 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: I was a I was a young kid. I went 458 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and saw American graffiti in nineteen seventy three. I said, 459 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: that's the neatest thing in the whole world to me, 460 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: that black fifty five, And little did I know would 461 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: lead me down this path. I mean, that's where that's 462 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: what kicks started me. And it's been cheval Lays ever since. 463 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, as a matter of fact, I can't get 464 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: away from them. It's it's you know, I can't tell 465 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: you this. That's the That one is probably the sixth 466 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: or seven fifty five, and I just recently went out 467 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: and found the seventy two Monte Carlo. I went to 468 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: college in and you know, it's just there's just something 469 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: about that, that childhood memory. That magazine that we do, 470 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: our monthly magazine, and our January issue, which I'm handing 471 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: out to people here at the auction has a nineteen 472 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: seventy Monte Carlo on the cover, and then we had 473 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: a fifty five in the November issue. So we we 474 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: try to appeal to anyone who has an interest in 475 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Chevrolet's or g MC's. We started recognizing GMC's at our 476 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: shows about five years ago, and most of are judging 477 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: at our shows is uh oriented towards original cars. However, 478 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: we do have a personalized Chevrolet chapter and we welcome 479 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: anyone with a car that may have been uh somewhat modified. 480 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: And uh, you were all soo many people? Is it? 481 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Is there an age limit? Franklin? Is it? Is it 482 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: a Chevrolet? Can somebody join the club with a Chevrolet? 483 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it? Is it all stuff? The 484 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: truth is you don't even have to own a car 485 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: to join us. But the judging is for cars that 486 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: are twenty five years or older, so and earlier is 487 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: welcome on our judging field. Um, we do have tours 488 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: for the newer cars, and our membership, if you get 489 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: your monthly magazine online is only twenty five dollars a year. 490 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: If you get mailed every month, it's only forty dollars 491 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: a year. I don't like to brag too much, but 492 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: I often say that we're the best bargain in the 493 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: automotive hobby. Well, and there's a lot of there's a 494 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: lot of information packed between the covers of Generator and 495 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: distributor and a lot of well, if you're trying to 496 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: store a Chevrolet, it's it's all there. If you you 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: probably noticed in the back of every issue. We have 498 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: a list of technical advisors for almost every year, and 499 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: uh there isn't a whole lot that they don't know 500 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: about how to help you with your car or truck. 501 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, Franklin, real quick, your thoughts 502 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: Is the membership getting older, younger, staying the same? Do 503 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: you see it expanding? Is it hard to attract people 504 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: into the club? We we have had a slight decline 505 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: in the last five years. However, I've been analyzing the 506 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: membership figures and we actually have been going up for 507 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: the last four months. And yes, we tend to be older, 508 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: but when I come to an event like this MICAM action, 509 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: they're young over the place here, so it's only a 510 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: matter of finding them, and we have many enthusiastic members. 511 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Our newest technical advisor is a nineteen year old from 512 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: Michigan who for the last six years has torn apart 513 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: and started putting back together again his nineteen nine business. 514 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: Uh cool, So uh year olds giving advice to everyone 515 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: else wonderful. It's wonderful as roight. Franklin, I want to 516 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time. I know you've got 517 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot going on again. The website is Victor Charlie 518 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Apple dot org Vintage chevro Leake Club of America. Right, 519 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: come see us, Okay, alright, anytime Pal you need anything, 520 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: you call us. All right, and it's wonderful to meet you, 521 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: if only on the phone. Thank you, Franklin. You have 522 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: a good rest of the day. You take good care, Yes, sir, 523 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: five six zero nine zero zero. Running in the car doctor, 524 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: We're coming back right after this. Welcome back. Running into 525 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Let's go over Tom and Wisconsin. Oh five, 526 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: buick Tom? What's going on? How are you? Yeah? I 527 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: got two thousand five three point eight and now now 528 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: that the weather got cold, Um, if you started up outside, 529 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: there's some engine noise that you can hear in the house. 530 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: It's that loud no I had two different mechanics, and 531 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: one said he eliminated all the extras, so I assume 532 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: he took the serpentine belt off and it's still made 533 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: the noise, and the other mechanics says, well drive until 534 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: it don't drive anymore, you know, so the first question 535 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: is we gotta make sure that the mechanic did he 536 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: take the belt off all right? Just you know, because 537 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: that was gonna be my first go to. If we 538 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: take the belts off and it's still making the noise, verify, yes, 539 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: it's internal in the motor. If the if the vehicle 540 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: warms up, if I'm sorry, if the engine, if the 541 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: outside tempt goes above thirty five, the noise goes away. 542 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: The noise is much much quieter. It's still there, but 543 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: you got to listen to hear it top of the motor, 544 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: bottom of the motor, front, back, at any direction. I 545 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: can't really tell it. Just does it change when you 546 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: put it in gear? Nope, you own the Carson's now, No. 547 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: I just bought it for my grandson. Okay, uh, well 548 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: now you know why they sold it. So um, I 549 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: bought it this summer and there was no noise. Now 550 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: that now that it's got out, the noise is there. 551 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if if the noise was there 552 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: last winter or not. I'm just thinking this is somehow 553 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: oil or lubrication related. And my concern is, you know, 554 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: do we have an oil pressure problem with this engine 555 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: that we're not able to see. You probably don't have 556 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: a gauge. It probably has a light or does this 557 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: have a gauge? Do you know it's got a light. 558 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if we looked at oil pressure where oil 559 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: pressure is just to see is it at spec you know, 560 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: is this is this a low oil pressure condition? Have 561 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: you changed the oil since you've owned it? Do any 562 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: common did he get any commentary or feedback on what 563 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: the oil looked like? You know, dirty beat And I'm 564 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: just you know, just phrasing a dirty beat up, sludgy, 565 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: varnishy um. You know, I've seen a you of these 566 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: three eights as they get older, if they haven't had 567 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: great oil change maintenance, that they start to show it 568 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: with age, especially as temperatures drop. And that's what I'm 569 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: concerned about here. So let's do this in steps. Let's 570 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: make sure let's never assume, because it's a dirty word 571 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: on radio end in order to repair. Let's make sure 572 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the mechanic pulled the belt off and it's still made 573 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: the noise, and then we know it is internal in 574 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: the engine. And then after that, then let's do an 575 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: oil pressure test. Let's do an oil sample. What does 576 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: the oil look like. For that matter, you could take 577 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: some oil out as a sample on the next oil 578 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: change and send it out to one of the labs. 579 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: And here's a reason to use one of the labs. 580 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of it, but they will 581 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: come back and tell you what percentage of what metals 582 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: are found in that oil, and then you might be 583 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: able to make a determination is the engine actually coming apart? 584 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not I'm not proposing to fix it. 585 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: But my concern as you're in Wisconsin, it's not exactly spring, 586 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: and we're gonna let your grandson drive it, and we 587 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: don't want to get them stuck somewhere in a snowstorm 588 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: and have engine failure and then you know, obviously that's 589 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: a problem for his safety. That's that's my bigger concern. Okay, yeah, 590 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: somewhere what if we change the oil and put like 591 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: a synthetic oil in that I mean, I mean, would 592 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: that help the problem? Or listen, it's it's it's it's 593 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: it's not a tattoo. It can't hurt to try, all right. Uh, 594 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, you could go to a maybe a thicker viscosity, 595 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a heavier weight might might compromise 596 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: something else. But at this stage in the game, it 597 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like we're gonna get a lot of longevity 598 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: out of this anyway. Uh So, you know, back to 599 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: the original thought, Let's do oil pressure, Let's make sure 600 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: the belt has been pulled, Let's do an oil sample, 601 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: and then maybe we want to you know, if it's 602 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: a five twenty oil and you want to go to 603 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: a five thirty or a ten thirty um or put 604 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, there are various oil viscosity enhancers out there 605 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: in the marketplace. Try one, see if it makes a difference. 606 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: It can't hurt. You know. It's like it's like hanging 607 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: a picture around the house with my wife and she 608 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: looks at and she goes, feel like it there. Yeah, 609 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: I can always spackle the hole and move the nail. Um. 610 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a big deal. You can always 611 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: do something else and try a different method. Tom. It's 612 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: not gonna hurt. You're not doing anything permanent because there 613 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: may be damage already compecia. So but you know what 614 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: the what the heavy noise that that is there, it 615 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: still performs good right well, like I said, until you 616 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: run some of these tests and then and and noises 617 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: are hard on radio. Um, do what you do? What 618 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: I said, call me back. Let's talk next week. All right, 619 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you then. I'm on Any of the 620 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We're back right after this. What this car 621 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: is automatic? It's systematic, it's hard romatic? What's breeze? Lightning? 622 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back right an end of the car Doctor. We're 623 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: rolling along as we get rid of wind down this hour. 624 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Bob and Nebraska, you're up next. What's going on? Well, 625 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: I just thought i'd make a comment on that first 626 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: state on your show. I was never a mechanic. I 627 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: was one of those backyard mechanics. But I as I 628 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: got barried and I had children, all three of my 629 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: children worked on their cars. I have two boys and 630 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: one girl up seventy seven years old. And I was 631 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: always pretty tichnical, and I had a lot of friends 632 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: were mechanics and stuff, you know, back in that day, 633 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: and it was just a thing that had to happen 634 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: at my house or you just didn't drive. Well, let 635 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: me ask you this question, how do any of your 636 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: kids have kids? Oh? Yeah, I had. It's the same 637 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: things were there because they were they were they were 638 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: trained to repair the car, and it's being passed on 639 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: generation the generation. And my point, in my thought and 640 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: my fear is that the generation that leaveses a car 641 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to work on the car passes that 642 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: down to the next generation and we're gonna lose the 643 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: thought process on repairing a car as a result. I 644 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts, Bob. Thanks and have a great rest 645 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: of the weekend. I'm running in of the car Doctor 646 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: reminding you whom mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you