1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Peter King, the must read column Football Morning 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: in America, also working for NBC Sports, visited the Vikings, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, got to speak with Tom Brady, went to 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the Jags camp, spoke with Urban Meyer and the Saints situation, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation there, and he was at the Steelers 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: as well. The peripatetic Peter King back on the program, Pete, 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: good to have you back. If you look at the 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback situation that is legitimate, like the real story here, 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: whether it's the Bears or it's the Niners, which one 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: stands out the most that you think we're gonna be 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: talking about during the regular season, not just we overhyped 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: the preseason. I mean, I think both those situations are 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: going to be talked about a lot, Dan, And you know, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: it's getting harder and harder for a coach like Mattnegie 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: or Kyle Shanahan to try to do the right thing 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: for a rookie orback picked in the first half of 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: the first round. You know, it's you know, the other 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: day I thought that, you know, in Chicago, it just 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it was an exclamation point on how and again this 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: is this an exaggeration, Okay, but how it's almost like 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: mob rule is trying to pick the quarterback, you know, 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and it doesn't matter if Justin Fields is ready. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea if he's ready or not, No 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: one knows. But uh, you know, damn it, we picked 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: the guy tenth or eleventh overall, whatever it was, and 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: damn it, he's gonna play. We picked we traded three 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: ones to go get Trey Lance. Damn it in San Francisco. 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: You know he should play instead of Garoppolo. I mean 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: it's like I wrote last week. All you have to 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: do is look at all the guys who didn't play 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: or barely played as rookies, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. I mean you have to do is look 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: at all those guys and say, man, isn't the idea 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback for the next fifteen years not 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: to rush him in maybe before he's ready. Look, it's 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: possible that Patrick Mahomes would have played great as a rookie, 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: but you know, Alex Smith quarterbacked him to the playoffs, 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: probably his best year in the NFL, and so you know, 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: and now Andy Reid looks like a genius. I just 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: would say to fans, we just relax. You know, a 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: guy doesn't have to play this year, he doesn't have 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: to do what is best for a player long term. 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you absolutely should sit him. I'm just 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: saying that it's ridiculous that you know that people in 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the second preseason game are booing the crap out of 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I mean, come on, just stop. Yeah, I'm wondering, 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: but we it's like the Jets. The Jets had a 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: great weekend. Not many teams go, we had a great weekend, 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: and it's August. The Jets are desperate for anything. And 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson throwing a couple of touchdown passes. That's a 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: great weekend for them. But it feels like their philosophy 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: is we drafted you, we're playing you. There's no reason 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: to have you ease your way into the lineup. What 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: do you what is your philosophy on that that playing 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback or letting him kind of ease into 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: the lineup. Well, if the Jets had Andy Dalton or 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, I doubt that Zach Wilson would be the absolute, 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: no doubt starter. Look at the backups for the Jets, 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: James Morgan, Mike White, Josh Johnson. Those guys are not 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: household names in their own household, and so you know, 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, look, I think Joe Douglas is a really 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: good general manager. I like him, and I think he's 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: doing a good job building up this team. But I 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: think it's a terrible mistake to not have a backup quarterback, 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: you know who's a veteran. And I'm sure that they 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: made a call about Nick Foles. I mean, Nick Foles 68 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: going to languish as the number three in Chicago and 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: somebody makes an offer that Ryan Pace thinks is good enough, 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: you know that he would take. But again, it's a 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: totally different situation. Who else is gonna play. You're gonna 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: trot out last year's fourth round pick, James Morgan to 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: to start the opener and to go into Carolina and play. 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: And that's why it's almost been pre ordained from day 75 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: one that Zach Wilson was going to play. Yeah, I 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: just worry the rookie quarterback gets into bad habits or 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts like you get 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: into a situation where David Carr is a quarterback, that 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: always comes to mind. I don't think any quarterback in 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: his first three years got sacked more than David Carr did. 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: And I think that your confidence level gets shot, you know, 82 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: you get into bad habits there. That would be my 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: concern with Zach w The expectation level is higher than 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: than on any other quarterback, even Trevor Lawrence. Like you know, 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: it's New York, it's the Jets. They expect greatness out 86 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: of there. And that's why I thought, can you get 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: Nick Foles? What's he going to cost you if you 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: get him? Yeah? Or Andy Dalton? You know, maybe that's 89 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: the route that they take out of this group of quarterbacks, 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: which one plays in a playoff game. First, Trey Lance, 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: just because he's, in my opinion, of all the rookie 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are going to play fairly early, whether it 93 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: be year one or two, Trey Lance is on the 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: best team. That's I mean, you know the Niners got 95 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: and again, look, time will tell if Trey Lance is good. 96 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Trading two future ones for him plus using that pick 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: on him, that's a huge investment. But I think they 98 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: can afford to do that because of guys like Fred 99 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Warner and Bossa and a good receiving corps. I just 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: think right now they are built to rise with a 101 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: young quarterback to maybe take some aches and pains with them. 102 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: But they're a really, really good team. I think they're 103 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: easily a top ten team in the league right now. 104 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: And so I always look for what quarterback goes to 105 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: the best team, and he did. He's Peter King Football 106 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Morning in America. The column is out now, and you 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: spend some time with Tom Brady. Brady has talked about 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: he's going to know if he's not playing at a 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: certain level, then it's time to retire. But is he 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: going to know or will somebody tell him that he's 111 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: not playing at the level that he needs to or 112 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: should be. I mean, you never know about something like that. 113 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm I didn't cover Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan, so 114 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened at the end with them. 115 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: But the fact is, you know, as I said today, 116 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: you know Brady is one five hundred and ninety three 117 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: days older than the next oldest player in football, and 118 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: last year he threw for more touchdowns than Patrick mahomes 119 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: more yards than Aaron Rodgers, and he won the Super 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Bowl by twenty two points. So I mean that's why, 121 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you talked to him. I talked to him. 122 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: He didn't say anything. Yeah, I'm playing X number more years. 123 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: He's smart. He's just taken an ear to year and 124 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: he says, I'll know. So who knows whether it's him 125 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: or whether it's Tampa or some other team that tells 126 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: him that's it. I think he's on his last team. 127 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know that. I don't see how anybody 128 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: can know that. Right now? What did you come away 129 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: from your conversation with urban Meyer? If I'm a Jags fan, 130 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: how confident should I feel? You know? I think what 131 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: urban Meyer is trying to do. He stood in front 132 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: of his team Dan at the start of the season. 133 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: He said, listen, you can call me twenty four seven. 134 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm here to help you. Your coaches are here to 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: help you. And one day Josh Allen, the pass rusher, 136 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: called him from a hospital after just having a baby, 137 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: and said, they're telling us that my wife has to 138 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: take this certain formula. All we want to do is 139 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: breastfeed the baby. Baby had some jaundice hospital said you 140 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: need to have this formula whatever it was, So he 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: didn't know who to call. He called urban Meyer, and 142 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: urban Meyer fixed it. And I wrote about that this morning, 143 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: And the moral of the story is urban Meyer feels 144 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: like he needs to be there for his players as 145 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: people so that during games, they'll be there for him 146 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: and for the franchise and play without reservation, all play, 147 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, all for one, one for all that kind 148 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: of stuff. So he's doing his best to try to 149 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: build the family aspect of it. But Dan, you know, 150 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: and I know that, how can you tell if a 151 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: guy is going to be able to take all the 152 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: losing that you're going to have to take in the preseason? Already, 153 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: one of his veterans had to come up to him 154 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: after the first game taken by the shoulders kind of 155 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: gently shake him and say, hey, coach, it's an f 156 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: and preseason game. And so anyway, I guess my whole 157 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: point about this is, you know, it's August twenty three, 158 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know how he's going to take losing. 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: He says he's going to be okay. He's talked to 160 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson about what one in fifteen felt like, so 161 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: he understands that that's going to happen. But I think 162 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: he is trying his best to build a roster of 163 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: players and coaches who care for each other so that 164 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: when times get tough, and they will, they're not going 165 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: to splinter. When do you make your Super Bowl pick? 166 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. A couple of weeks. I don't know. 167 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: It's how do you not pick Kansas City in Tampa? 168 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a very lazy pick, but I 169 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: don't know. Dan. You know, they both look pretty good, 170 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: and you know, the Bills look good too, so you 171 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: never know. But I I think Peter just froze up. 172 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: He's just a oh there you go, Okay, yeah, you 173 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: froze up for a second. We don't know. We don't 174 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: know what is going to happen with COVID, so that 175 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: some team is going to get kind of screwed by 176 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: COVID at some point this year. So I think it 177 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: makes it especially difficult to pick, because how do you 178 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: know what that team is, you know, like a Southern 179 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: team like Tampa. Bruce arians said, we're being really, really careful. 180 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: They've already had multiple people I've heard it's more than 181 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: five in their organization test positive after being vaccinated. So 182 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean we're in totally uncharted territory, especially for teams 183 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: like in Florida and Texas in the South. So those 184 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: are things that we can't We just can't know right now. 185 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: I want to leave you with this, the new trying 186 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: to police taunting here in the NFL, and I'm wondering, 187 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: let's say a last second Hail Mary and somebody knocks 188 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: the ball down and then they taunt after the clock 189 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: is wound down. Zero's up there, so it's after the fact. 190 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: Can you call a penalty for taunting after a game 191 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: is over and you give the offense one more play. 192 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: It's a great question, and I think the answer is yes, 193 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: because they'd obviously call it like a continuation play. But 194 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: that's a you know, we at NBC are going to 195 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: have our session with the NFL and with the officials 196 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: here coming up soon, I'm gonna ask that question. I 197 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: think it's a really interesting question. But the whole taunting thing, 198 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I really don't view it as as anything that was 199 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: anything like a crisis or a huge problem in the league. 200 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't get the point of emphasis about it. It 201 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: just it feels like they're trying to make a very 202 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: very emotional game totally, even Keel, that's a hard thing 203 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: to do. Who brought this up? Like where was the out? 204 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know. I was surprised 205 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: when I read about it. I did, I hadn't heard 206 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: about it. I don't know. And I think the NFL 207 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: has got to be careful Dan, because there's already it's 208 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: already the no fun League. And I just think that 209 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: if you're trying to fix something that truly may not 210 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: be broken, I don't understand why that is. Pete, great 211 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us. Okay, hey, 212 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan. Take care. That's Peter King Football Mornings 213 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: in America. That column is out now. Now let's say 214 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: there's a hail Mary, you know, the throw that Kyler 215 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Murray had with DeAndre Hopkins last year. And let's say 216 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: a defender makes a great play instead of Hopkins making 217 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: the catch, and then you know time is expired. Can 218 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: you call a penalty if you're taunting that person? A 219 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: defender is taunting DeAndre Hopkins, then what happens? Can the 220 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: game end on a defensive penalty? Well, it can't but 221 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: the game has ended and then there's a defensive penalty. 222 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: It's not like you can go next time you guys 223 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: get together, it's ten yards okay, you get to kick 224 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: off from you know, the other team's twenty yard line. 225 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how you enforce this, but that is 226 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: something that can happen if you have a game that 227 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: ends and then somebody gets excited and starts taunting somebody. 228 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: Can you throw a penalty? Yeah? Point? Or would that 229 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: game be over when the ball hits the ground so 230 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: the penalty wouldn't matter. I don't know how it would work. 231 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Like I think the Eagles Super Bowl. Didn't Rock have 232 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: a hail Mary that they were all hanging over him 233 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: and nobody called anything. But if two seconds later someone 234 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: had started stover Rock and said whatever, a fly could 235 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: have gone out. Yeah. But what happened to the Cleveland 236 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: Browns linebacker last name Rudd. Didn't he take off his 237 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: helmet to celebrate after the win? And wasn't there a 238 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: penalty that was called on that play? Dwayne Rudd? Yeah, 239 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: he took off his helmet and threw it in the 240 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: air and celebration of the apparent Brown's victory. I'm not 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: sure would happened after that, You would definitely have the 242 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: right guy. Did they lose that game? For some reason? 243 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: I thought that it cost them a game the Chiefs, Yeah, 244 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: they got there wasn't the last play of the game. 245 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: The Chiefs got to one run one last untimed play. 246 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: The ball was moved to the thirteen yard line, half 247 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: the distance. Chiefs kicker Morton Anderson booted a thirty yard 248 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: field goal to win the game forty to thirty nine. Okay, 249 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: so the Chiefs won the game because Dwayne Rudd took 250 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: his helmet off after the game is over, so the 251 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: get the game was over, and then he celebrated, and 252 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: then they put time back up or untime play, and 253 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: well the ball was still being does lateral stuff. The 254 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: laterals were going on. Yeah, Rudd didn't see the play 255 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: and believing he had sacked Trent Green. That's how long 256 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: ago this was. To end the game, Rudd took his 257 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: helm off and threw in there in celebration. The laterals 258 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: were technically still going on, so yes, the game was 259 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: still align. Okay, that may change it. Yeah, we're sending 260 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the NFL on note though. Okay, yeah, I can't believe 261 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: we gave Peter's going to seal our question now and 262 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: ask the officials, Okay, we have to get to it first. Yeah, 263 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: but the audience knows that we came up with that. 264 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if Peter gets extra credit because he brings 265 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: it up in the NBC meeting, that's okay. We should 266 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: we give, we share, We even give credit to people 267 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: like that's unheard of in this business. We actually give 268 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: credit to somebody who does their job. Not you know, 269 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you know, I was just thinking, Yeah, you 270 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: just nothing wrong with that. People do some really hard work. 271 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 272 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 273 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 274 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 275 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 276 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 277 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Congrats to Miguel Cabrera, the Tigers slugger, the twenty eighth 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: player in baseball history to hit five hundred home runs, 279 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: closing in on three thousand as well. Five hundred home 280 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: runs doesn't mean what it used to. Three thousand still does. 281 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Five hundred was once a number that elite sluggers reached, 282 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and that was your automatic ticket to the Hall of Fame. 283 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: You've got to five hundred home runs. Didn't matter what 284 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: else you did in your career. You got to five 285 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: hundred home runs. You're a Hall of Famer. You know, 286 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: there's some all time greats that didn't get there. Luke 287 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Garrick didn't get there. Joe DiMaggio wasn't even closed. The 288 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: list has grown in recent years and will continue because 289 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: of the emphasis on home runs. You know, the steroid 290 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: era sort of marred the Hey, welcome to the five 291 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: hundred club. Five hundred club, But did you have help 292 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: along the way? The long ball more common than ever. 293 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: But Cabrera not just a home run hitter. He's one 294 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: hundred hits shy a little less than one hundred hits 295 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: shy of three thousand. He won a Triple Crown, he 296 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: won a couple of MVPs. We don't go nuts over 297 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: five hundred home runs, but we will celebrate Miguel Cabrera 298 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: when he goes into the Hall of Fame here in 299 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: a few years. And I'm wondering who's next with five 300 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: hundred home runs. I guess Gian Carlos Stanton would be 301 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's thirty one, He's got three 302 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two career home runs. I'm not the 303 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: biggest Gian. Carlos Stanton fan Mike Trout He's thirty. He 304 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: has three hundred and ten home runs in his career, 305 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: but injuries have slowed his pace a bit in twenty seventeen, 306 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, but this year has really set 307 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: him back. He hit one hundred eighty seven home runs 308 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: in the five years leading up to last year's pandemic 309 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: shortened season. Let's see. Freddie Freeman would be a guy 310 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. He's thirty one with two 311 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven career home runs. Bryce Harper he's 312 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: been playing for ten years. He's twenty eight years of age. 313 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: He's got two hundred and fifty five home runs. Manny 314 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: Machado he's actually a few months older than Harper. He's 315 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: twenty nine and he's got two hundred and forty five 316 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: home runs. You know. Vlad Guerrero Juniors only twenty two, 317 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis Junior's twenty two. Won Soto is twenty two. 318 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: Ronald Cuna is twenty three. You know, these guys are 319 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: just starting, but that possibility is there with them hitting 320 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: five hundred home runs because the launch angle and velocity 321 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: and pitchers and I throw hard, you swing hard, and yep. 322 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to be surprised if some 323 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: of these younger players, if they stay healthy, play that 324 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: amount of time, are gonna have five hundred home runs. Yeah, Pauling, 325 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: A quick question for you. Albert Pooholes of the Dodgers 326 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: is forty one years old. He's got six hundred and 327 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: seventy seven career homers, and he's his career at batting 328 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: averages two ninety seven. Would you if you were him, 329 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: you could either be a three hundred hitter or have 330 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred home runs. You could pick one and then 331 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: tap out six hundred and seventy seven homers two ninety 332 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: seven career batting average. He hit fifteen homers this year, 333 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: so he's gonna need some work to get to seven 334 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: hundred if he plays next year, Yeah, I would probably. Now, 335 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what his thoughts would be, but you 336 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: want to be v You want to be viewed as 337 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: a great hitter, like batting three hundred for your career. 338 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: It would bother me if I ended at two ninety nine. 339 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantell, I think ended up at two ninety eight, 340 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: But I'm sure that there are some really good players 341 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: that might have ended up right in that vicinity. There 342 00:19:54,359 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: seven hundred home runs, man, that's a big thing, you know. 343 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys who entered their career 344 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: battoned over three hundred. If I'm joining the seven hundred club, 345 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I'd probably go seven hundy. I mean, there's there's four 346 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: three guys in the seven hundred club. Bonds Aaron ruth 347 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Abrod missed it by four, yes, Hunt And now more 348 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: than every where, people are more instant home runs and 349 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: could care less how many times you struck out. Even 350 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: more so to me, it would be a big gil 351 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: to hit that seven hundred mark. No one's gonna judge 352 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: you if you struck out like a crazy amount of 353 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: times to get there. I wonder what Albert Poohole's his 354 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: career numbers would be if he was starting out in 355 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the last five years with the emphasis on home runs, 356 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: not about batting average, because when he came up he 357 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: was truly a great hitter, not just a power guy, 358 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: but if he came up and just set his sights 359 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: on hitting home runs, we'd be talking about him probably 360 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: approaching eight hundred home runs, not seven hundred home runs, 361 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: because of the emphasis when you're a great hitters. Bonds 362 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: was a great hitter. He wasn't one of those guys 363 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: who just went up there and he would be swinging. 364 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Bonds was a five tool player if he came up well, 365 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: he was built differently. In the early part of his 366 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: career he was very thin, very slender, stealing basses, good 367 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you know outfielder, but hitting for a good average. Then 368 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: of course he started with steroids. He became a bigger 369 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: guy and he was one dimensional. He would just swing 370 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: to hit home runs. But but Pooh Holes, who was 371 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: pretty much avoided any you know, cloud of controversy when 372 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: it comes to that, would probably be approaching eight hundred 373 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: home runs. Yeah. If pool Holes would have retired at 374 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: age thirty one after he was his last year was 375 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer. 376 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Just in Saint Louis, he batted three thirty with four 377 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five homers in his first eleven years. 378 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: That's first ballot and it's one of the great bargains 379 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: in baseball history that the Cardinals guy ten great years. 380 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: It costs them a little over one hundred million dollars. 381 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: They got ten years with Pooholes with those numbers. But 382 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: he would be approaching I think eight hundred home runs 383 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: with today's philosophy, offensive philosophy, where you're just hitting home runs. 384 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: That's all they care about. You don't have to put 385 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: it in play, hit it out of play, hit it 386 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: over the wall, all right? Eight seven seven three d 387 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: P Show Email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 388 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: Twitter handled at dp's show. Mclovin poll question from the 389 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: first hour, which rookie quarterback would you pay to see 390 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: play a full game? Trevor Lawrence is still leading over 391 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: our guys justin Field and Trey Lance. 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But I have 406 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: some information here that I got over the weekend about this. 407 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: And if you go back to last month, I think 408 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: it was July twenty seventh when I got the information 409 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: that the PAC twelve and Big Ten were looking at 410 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: some kind of merger or alliance because they wanted to 411 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: protect the Rose Bowl contract that they have now. The ACC, 412 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: fearing of being left out, jumped in. They also aligned 413 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: with the higher education with the Big Ten the PAC 414 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: twelve from what I'm told, and that's why the Big 415 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: twelve is on the outside looking in Iowa State, it's 416 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: going to be good football too. But other than that, 417 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: in Kansas bastsketball. Do you want any of these schools 418 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: and maybe somebody picks off some of these schools, you know, 419 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Kansas would be the only school. That would be interesting 420 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: if you're the ACC and you can bring them in 421 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: for basketball, but you just don't want to be left out, 422 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: and the Big twelve is going to be left out 423 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: thanks to Texas and Oklahoma. Here's the information I have 424 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: because I was wondering, you know, the Alliance they have 425 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: to think about the bigger picture here. If the Big Ten, 426 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: Pac twelve, and ACC are going to try to play 427 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: for a national championship, they want to make sure that 428 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: there are other TV partners here because ESPN basically owns 429 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: or is in partnership with the SEC, and they have 430 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: that until twenty twenty five. From what I'm told that 431 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: the Alliance will attempt to block the College Football Playoff 432 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: expansion until twenty twenty six because they don't want ESPN 433 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: in bed with SEC and then getting the SEC schools 434 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: to play on ESPN. They want other TV partners in here. 435 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: They don't want a monopoly with ESPN and the SEC. 436 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: Alliance wants to maintain normalcy with practical legislation if they 437 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: expand the playoffs in twenty twenty three. ESPN owns the 438 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: SEC and the College Football Playoff. Just something to file 439 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: away here when we talk about you know, everybody is 440 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: trying to find that seat with musical chairs here. That 441 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: the alliance from what I'm told, PAC twelve, Big ten 442 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: acc want to wait for college expansion until after this 443 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: current contract expires, and then you're going to have other 444 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, TV partners in here. Now just Fox, Pony Up? 445 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: Do you get Amazon? Do you get somebody else who 446 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: wants to jump in and be able to carry this 447 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: because you're getting high quality football game games just about 448 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: every weekend. You're not going to get one Double A. 449 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to get Youngstown State against 450 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State. You're getting good football games every week and 451 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit larger NFL version. 452 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: From what I'm told that if you get sixteen playoff 453 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: teams and you have fifty schools that are involved in this, 454 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: it's a little bit larger NFL and that's the model 455 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: they're going for because there is there was a concern 456 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: that the SEC was going to swallow up everybody else. 457 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: They were going to say, hey, we're creating our own 458 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: super league here. But you know, you want to have 459 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: your foothold. From what I'm told, with schools in the 460 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Big ten and at out West. You want to have 461 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: your foothold in Texas, Oklahoma, and California. Those are the 462 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: football rich states and everybody wants to have an opportunity 463 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: in those three states. And if you do this with 464 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: the ACC, and you do this, you know, with the 465 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: Pac twelve and the Big ten, and you're you're covering 466 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: the globe and it makes them a very viable strong 467 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: conference to go against. The SEC. SEC can add o'kloman Texas. 468 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: But the ACC with what they're doing now, you have 469 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: rivalries they are already built in. You have games that 470 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: are already built in. And how long are those schedules? 471 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain schools that play that school every 472 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: single year, whether it's home or away. I did ask 473 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: my source about notreed in, and my source said he 474 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: wasn't sure. He also said, by the way, the only 475 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: school that's attractive in the Big twelve is Kansas because 476 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: it's basketball. There's not enough schools there who can create revenue. 477 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: The state schools don't match up for the Big ten, 478 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: a SEC SEC or at Pac twelve. So that's that's 479 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: what's going to be really interesting to find out what 480 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: happens with the Big twelve. You have a lot of 481 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: these games that you know, ACC has games locked in rivals, 482 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: PAC twelve has that Big Ten has rivals. And then 483 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: I ask about Notre Dame and my source said, I 484 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: believe that their their administration was on vacation last week 485 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: or school not in session. My source said, I'd be 486 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: surprised if Notre Dame is interested. Now. Notre Dame is 487 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: in a great position, possibly down the road. Couldn't see 488 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: them joining the Alliance until after the college playoff expansion 489 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. But once again, the Alliance wants 490 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: to if they expand the playoffs. ESPN owns the SEC 491 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: in college football playoffs, and you know they want the 492 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: other networks to bid. The price goes up NFL style 493 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: of coverage with multiple networks covering the playoffs. That's that's 494 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: what the bigger picture is here. And you might not 495 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: see that until twenty twenty six. Yeah, I'm really curious Clemson, 496 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: because there's such a powerhouse right now. Were they invited, 497 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: it hasn't no news really, that hard news is broken. 498 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: Were they invited to join the SEC? Why would they? 499 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they? As they seem right now to be 500 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: amongst the top of the heap of college football and 501 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: they could do whatever they want. I haven't heard. I 502 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: would imagine if i'm the SEC. I was told the 503 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: SEC reached out to Ohio State, you know some of 504 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: these blue bloods. I mean, of course you would, why not? 505 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: But from what I was told, and this is you know, 506 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: back on the twenty seventh of July, when I gave 507 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: you that information that there was the possibility, and nobody 508 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: was talking about this. We're all caught up with the SEC, 509 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, now what do you do? And 510 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: that the Big ten reached out to the PAC twelve 511 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: to talk about a merger, and I'm thinking, okay, I 512 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: don't know how that works. And then I think the 513 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: ACC is going, okay, do we want to join? Can 514 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: we join the Can we join the SEC? Or can 515 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: Clemson all of a sudden secede from the SEC and 516 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: say we're gonna go on our own. Here we're going rogue. 517 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I go clonan Texas. But like, there's 518 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot going on here, a lot. I love that 519 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: Penn State's president. I think it's just president. You know, 520 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the president said, you know, this isn't about chasing money. 521 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: This is about higher education, right right, that's it, that's that, 522 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: that's what you always do. You follow the education, not 523 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: the money. I was always told you follow the money. 524 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna follow the higher education. Okay, yeah, 525 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm buying into that. Sure, sure, Yeah. If 526 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: there's been any thought of an SSC, a smart School Conference, 527 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of like like a duke football team league, Yeah, 528 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: but that's still they don't they they're over academic, they 529 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: don't they don't even have a playoffs. Well, I would 530 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: love to see wake Forest, you know, one of some 531 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: of these Vanderbilt. They should let Vandy into the IVY League. 532 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: Put wake Forest in there as way, maybe duke football 533 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: in there. Yes, it'd be awesome if that super smart 534 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: conference only ran like trick plays or something, or you know, 535 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: plays that were more statistically to prevail and based on 536 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: the current weather conditions, and like there was like these 537 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: unbelievable formulas as to why they ran the ball to 538 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: the left or something right. The analytics, Yeah, YESC would 539 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: have just analytics and computers on the sideline. Scientifically speaking, Yes, 540 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna run this HiT's third and four at their 541 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine and I mean them. Is this a shot 542 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: at me? Yes, there happens to be a Harvard quarterback 543 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: who's going to lead a team to the playoffs this 544 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: year in Washington, DC. So the Ivy League football is strong, right, guys. 545 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: You guys have been just holding on to that. You know, 546 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick went, he went to Hervard. Well, remember Ja 547 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: feither made the playoffs win. I know, I know, I know. 548 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. When we were talking about football schools, I 549 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: didn't think of a single Ivy League school. I just 550 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: thought of like smarter non Ivy League football schools. Jason Garrett. Yeah, 551 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 552 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 553 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 554 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 555 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live every day at YouTube dot 556 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: com slash The Dan Patrick Show. Hey, it's me Rob Parker. 557 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 558 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: twenty two minutes of pipe and hot baseball talk, featuring 559 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: the biggest names to newsmakers in the sport. Whether you 560 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: believe in analytics or the iecast, We've got all the 561 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, So do yourself 562 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 563 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 564 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Let's bring an Andy Staples, college football writer for The 565 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: Athletic and host of The Andy Staples Show podcast. All right, 566 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: where do we stand with the Alliance here? Andy? Well, 567 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: first of all, I've been meaning to do this since 568 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: you're on with Debble five and now the Alliance. We 569 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. They're going to maybe tell 570 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: us what it is, but I'm not sure they're going 571 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: to be all that thorough in telling us what it 572 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: is because I don't think the ACC, the Big ten, 573 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: and the PAC twelve really know what it is either. 574 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: They basically want to do something in response to the SEC, 575 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: which did a thing by adding Oklahoma in Texas, but 576 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that they know exactly what they want 577 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: to do. I think they want to kind of say, hey, look, 578 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: we're in this together and SEC, you're not going to 579 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: be able to bully everybody twitch the SEC is like, Okay, 580 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: what do you want? And it'll be interesting to see 581 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: because the next big issue down the pipe is playoff expansion. 582 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: What's going to happen. They proposed this twelve team playoff. 583 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: Breg Sanky, the SEC commissioner, was on the committee that 584 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: created that proposal. And so are the PAC twelve, the AEC, 585 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: and the Big ten gonna stop that? Because that'd be 586 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: really stupid if the PAC twelve stopped something that would 587 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: actually let the PAC twelve get into the playoff. Meanwhile, 588 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: the SEC would be sitting there going, okay, stay at 589 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: four whatever, because the SEC has no problem with a 590 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: fourteen playoff. So that's the issue now. I will say 591 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: there's something they can do, and I hope they do this. 592 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: If they want to do something that will help all 593 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: three of those leagues make a better product, make them 594 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: more money, and make us viewers happy, they can just 595 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: make some better non conference games. Use that alliance as 596 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: leverage to put fun games together. I want to see 597 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: Michigan Cleinson, I want to see Ohio State USC give 598 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: me that at the beginning of every season, and you're 599 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: going to make some money off this deal. Yeah, I 600 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: just wonder what the bigger picture here is. Where are 601 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: we and like, is it a five year plan with 602 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe even a shorter time frame for 603 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: then are we looking at an NFL model where maybe 604 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: you have fifties schools, sixteen playoffs berths there. I think 605 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: that's the fear, And I think the fear is nobody 606 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: knows what the governance is going to look like because 607 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: the NCAA has just been kind of torpedoed. The Supreme 608 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: Court ruling pretty much put an end to all the 609 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: rules that the NCAA has existed to enforce. The only 610 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: other reason the NCAA exists is as an event management company, 611 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: which it'll keep doing that because it's got a billion 612 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: dollars basketball tournament. But the question is, how are these 613 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: rules going to be enforced? Who's going to govern whom? 614 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: And there's a good chance it could be governed sport 615 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: by sport, and so let's say if there's a football 616 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: governing body. The concern I think among the Big ten, 617 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: the A SEC in the PAC twelve is they don't 618 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: want the SEC to become the football governing body. They 619 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: don't want the SEC to decide, well, we want these 620 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: rules and we're going to get all the best players, 621 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: and then your schools are going to leave you for 622 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: us because we're going to have the better product and 623 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: then that is exactly what would happen at the end 624 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: of the day. What you just said is there would 625 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: be I'd say it would probably be thirty five to 626 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: forty teams and there would be a playoff and it 627 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: would look like NFL light. I don't know that anybody 628 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: in college football wants it. I don't think the SEC 629 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: wants that. I think all the SEC did in taking 630 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Texas was somebody knocked on their door and said, Hey, 631 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: would you like to make a lot of money with us? 632 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: And they said, yeah, sure, sounds great, and so they 633 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: took him. And I think everybody's looking at this as 634 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: an existential threat. But all the SEC did was build 635 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: the best organization it could build for whatever comes next. Okay, 636 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: but why don't they go out and get Clemson. Well 637 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: they can't. Clemson's got a grant of rights in the 638 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: AEC that lasts through two thirty six. Clemson can't leave 639 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: the a SEC and your caller his TV market thing. 640 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: That's a very twenty ten take. That was when you're 641 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: trying to start a cable network and you want to 642 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: you want to increase your footprint. Clemson, the TV market 643 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Clemson draws viewers. Clemson games draw eyeballs. So yeah, 644 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: everybody would love to have Clemson, but the a SEC's 645 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: got him locked down for a long time. Well, I 646 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: had a source tell me over the weekend that the 647 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: Alliance will try to block that any expansion until maybe twenty. 648 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: They don't want ESPN to control the SEC and the 649 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, you know, to conflict convenia. I would 650 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: agree with that, and I look, the SEC can't keep 651 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: the rest of them from selling parts of the playoff 652 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: to Fox or NBC or Peacock. Let's put the playoff 653 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: on Peacock with you guys. I like that, and they 654 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: can't stop that, and why would they. They'll make more 655 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: money if they sell it to various networks rather than 656 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: just sell it to one. Yeah, but you don't want 657 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: ESPN to be in bed with the SEC and the 658 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: college football playoffs? Dan Dan who owns the ACC's rights? Yeah, ESPN? Okay, 659 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: so who has the Big ten and the PAC twelve? 660 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: Not the good stuff but some of the stuff. Who 661 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: has the other stuff? Who's the other stuff? The mothership? Yeah? 662 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: I know ESPN is running college football here, but you 663 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: want to get more networks in here. As well, you 664 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: get all your money in here as well. Agreed, And 665 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, I love that was at Penn stage president 666 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: who said, this isn't about money. You know, we're not 667 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: doing this alliance for money. We're doing it. You know, 668 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: it's about higher education. And I went, oh, okay, that's 669 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: a new one there. Well, there is. That's not a 670 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: completely bogus statement. So there is a thought among those 671 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: leagues that they wanted to protect the quote unquote collegiate model, 672 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: which would be the thing that's been It's gotten its 673 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: ass kicked in federal court up and down for the 674 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: last ten years. And what what I'm wondering is if 675 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: they think they're gonna just recreate the nncuable as I 676 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: was listening to a podcast the other day and they 677 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: were talking about some consultant came on and said, hey, 678 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, you should you should talk you know, tell 679 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: everybody when you're gonna broadcast, and you do it in 680 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: real time and then you take calls and they're like, 681 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: oh great, you invented sports talk radio. So it's it's 682 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: possible that they could be trying to reinvent the NC 683 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: double A exactly the same way the NC double A 684 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: was but that's not gonna work. And and here's the thing. 685 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: The SEC doesn't want all of that either. They would 686 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: like things to continue the way they were. They just 687 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: understand they can't. So all these guys, whether it's the SEC, 688 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: the a SEC, the Big ten, Pac twelve, what's left 689 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: at the Big twelve, they all have to figure out 690 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: how to move in the new world and not get 691 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: themselves sued into oblivion. That's going to be the challenge, 692 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's not going to be easy much the 693 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: Big twelve, the remnants of the Big twelve do other 694 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: than Kansas is attracted for basketball, and I guess I 695 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: would stay. It's a good football program. But other than that, 696 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: who wants the remnants of the Big twelve? Make Oklahoma 697 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: and Texas stay as long as you can and squeeze 698 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: every dime out of them. That's that's what I would do. Yeah, 699 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: But what else happens after that? Though? Andy, Like I 700 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: gotta start thinking three years down the road, you can 701 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: pick up more schools from the American if you're the 702 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: Big twelve. But right now, those schools and this is 703 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: the problem with realignment in general. Right now, remember how 704 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: we said the reasons have changed. It's not because you're 705 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: starting a cable network. You need games that will draw 706 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: millions and millions of eyeballs. Well, the eight teams remaining 707 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: just don't. So the problem is if you want to 708 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: add somebody, if you're a more powerful league, you need 709 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: somebody who's going to come in kind of at the 710 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: top half so that everybody else doesn't have to take 711 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: a pay cut. For example, Kansas and Iowa State, they're 712 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: AU members, not and have to do with grassroots basketball. 713 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: It's the Association of American Universities, a very prestigious academic group. 714 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: So the Big Ten likes those those AU members. That 715 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: would seem like a nice fit. But the problem is 716 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: Perdue and Indiana and Northwestern are never going to take 717 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: a pay cut to take them in because that's what happens. 718 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: You need somebody who's gonna make you more money, like 719 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: an Oklahoma or Texas, And that's the problem. There's nobody 720 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: left on the board who makes anybody any more money. 721 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: What about a Smart School Conference the SSC? What about well, 722 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean if you did it with schools in the Northeast, 723 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean you could at like Harvard and Yale and 724 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: Dartmouth and Cornell and pent that'd be a great league. 725 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: What would we call it? Um cough stuff? Is there 726 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: some invasive species that hangs on the walls of the 727 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: buildings in most of those campuses. We could do the 728 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 1: moss moss, the moss LEAs. Yes, I don't know. Uh. 729 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Andy, I hope you're doing well. 730 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Stan, I appreciate it. That's Andy Staples, 731 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: college football writer for The Athletic. He hosts The Andy 732 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: Staples Show podcast where he breaks down college football with 733 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: his friends from the Athletic and their college football staff. 734 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to go on, you know, 735 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: it just there. I don't think they know. Therefore it's 736 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: hard for us to go yep. I think that's going 737 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: to happen. But you have to look at if you're 738 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: the big ten, Okay, what do you do? They've added 739 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 1: schools before nobody cared. Nebraska and Rutgers in Maryland went there. 740 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: Nebraska used to be good. Maryland. I don't know if 741 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: they've been good since Ralph Fregian days. Rutgers maybe in 742 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds or something, but nobody cared. They had expansion. 743 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: They used to be the Big ten. They had expansion 744 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: didn't mean anything, and the SEC probably said, well, we 745 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: can take these two schools. They give us revenue. We 746 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: certainly have a foothold in the state of Texas. I 747 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you're the PAC twelve. The PAC twelve 748 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: has always been the odd man out, and if you 749 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: can somehow get back in and make yourself relevant, then 750 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: I would do everything I possibly could do. The thing is, 751 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: it just feels like the alliance is too big with 752 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 1: the ACC because there's schools in the ACC that they're 753 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 1: not good in football, and this is about football money. 754 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: Florida State used to be good. Clemson, you know, is good, 755 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of schools where you go, Yeah, 756 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: nobody cares. You care about Clemson, but if you're trying 757 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: to you know, and then the PAC twelve, what are 758 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: your revenue schools? Like? If we have those, do you 759 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: care about Washington State, Oregon State? Do you care about Colorado? Like? 760 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: Are you taking some? Because you have to take everybody? 761 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: And that is that a good business proposition? Because the 762 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: SEC didn't go, We'll take the Big twelve. They were like, no, 763 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: we'll take Oklahoma and Texas. We don't want anybody else. 764 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: It just feels like the Alliance might be too big 765 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: to try to control that and get true rivalry games. 766 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: How many games are you going to play in the 767 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: Alliance against these schools you already have built in rivalries 768 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: that you want to, you know, continue. What's Notre Dame's 769 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: role going to be in three years down the road. 770 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: They're still going to be an outlier. So there's a 771 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: lot of questions here, Gampo. One thing that would be 772 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: good your plan you've talked about for a whiles. Let's 773 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: say there's fifty schools that are really kind of heavy 774 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: hitter type schools. If ESPN is really running college football, 775 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: which they're kind of doing already, but if they're completely 776 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: running it, they would run the scheduling, which means they 777 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: would put together great matchups for great TV for the 778 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: fans to get ratings, so we would have more good games. Yeah, 779 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: it's just like the NFL. The NFL comes up with 780 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: the schedule. It's not like you go to the Patriots. Hey, 781 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: you guys got to come up with your schedule and 782 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: then we're gonna carry your games. It's like, no, we're 783 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: going to decide who you play and when you play them. 784 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: This in from the Patriots. Cam Newton as traveled to 785 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: a club approved medical appointment that required him to leave 786 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: the Patriots. He received daily COVID test all negative. Due 787 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: to a misunderstanding about test conducted away from NFL facilities, 788 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: and as required by the NFL protocols, Cam will be 789 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: subject to the five day entry cadence process before returning 790 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: to the faculty. Cam will continue participating virtually in all 791 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: the team activities and he'll be back with the club Thursday, 792 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: August twenty sixth Okay, Mac Jones, come on down, get 793 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: a few more reps, a couple more phone calls in here, 794 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: Jesse and Los Angeles. I, Jess, good to have you back. 795 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey DP, Hey gents, It's great 796 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: to have the starting five back, and I hope the 797 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: vacations were awesome. I just wanted to call in and 798 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: get my best and best of the weekend, my best 799 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: finding out the Dodgers swept the Mets when I got 800 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: back from a backpacking trip this weekend, and my best 801 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: dart of last week earlier. We're speaking of dynasties and 802 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: dan Our. Sacramento Kings have a summer league dynasty and 803 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: then he didn't slap me with some truth because I'm 804 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: getting excited over here. Don't do it. Don't two times 805 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: Summer League champions, Dan, don't do it. Don't do it. 806 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: They got they got davey On Mitchell and they have 807 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: Fox and healed in Hellaburton. So is this the year 808 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: that they break the longest drought in the NBA playoffs? 809 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: And would them getting in the playoff tournament playing tournam 810 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: account Please bless me here, all right, Jay, thank you, 811 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: jess Um. You know, I love me some Sacramento Kings 812 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: because somebody's got to love them. They have talent there. 813 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: It just felt like, you know, the Clippers aren't the 814 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: Clippers anymore. The Kings have taken over that that baton. 815 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: They passed the baton to them. Where the Sacramental Kings 816 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: are the Sacramento Kings, you know, kind of mired in mediocrity, 817 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: but they do have talent. I just don't know if 818 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: they have a really good team or not. Yeah, Paul, 819 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: remember how fun they were that little stretch the big Yeah. Yeah, 820 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: Chris Weber, bloody. It's like they became a real popular 821 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: team around America because they've been dormant for so long, 822 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: and they're they're, well, they weren't a threatening franchise usually, 823 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: but they're they had the cool colors. That place was 824 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: always jumping. You know, another thing. And let me go 825 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: back to Cam. Newton and Seaton pointed this out that 826 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 1: it's a it's an odd way of finding out who 827 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: isn't and who isn't vaccinated. Because Ben Vollen of the 828 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: Boston Globe covers the Patriots, he said, and yes, if 829 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: Cam were vaccinated, he wouldn't have to miss any practices 830 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: this week. Only unvaccinated players have to sit out five days. 831 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: I know that players don't want to say if they're 832 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: vaccinated or not. I understand it. But this this isn't 833 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: necessarily about individuals. This is about your team. You have 834 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: to you have to think about it in a team concept. Here, 835 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: you're job. You have to think about it. It's not 836 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: just you as an individual as a citizen. You're with 837 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: the team and I have a small team here and 838 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: I need to know that vaccinated or not. If you're 839 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: not vaccinated, they're certain safety protocols that you must go 840 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: through every single day. And if you are vaccinated, then 841 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to go through those same protocols. CAM 842 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: is finding that out. You know, Kirk Cousin says, hey, 843 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: look I don't care. I'm not getting vaccinated and then 844 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: had the preposterous statement if I die, I die. This 845 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: is a father of little ones saying this. This is 846 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: about your job, This is about the team you're on 847 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: and protecting everybody. And if you heat test positive and 848 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: then you forfeit a game, now everybody loses their paycheck, 849 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: including the team you're playing against and guys who make 850 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot less than you. And this isn't a 851 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: political statement. This is just common sense of what you 852 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: need to do to make sure you're able to go 853 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: to your job and protect the others who were there. 854 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: Or if you don't want to play, then don't play. 855 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, guys took the season off last year because 856 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: of COVID. The Patriots lost six or eight players. If 857 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: you don't want to play them, don't play. If it's 858 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: that important to you means that much too, you don't 859 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: want to put that in your body, then fine. But 860 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: if you if you're going to play, then you have 861 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: to follow the safety protocols and are you going to 862 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: want to run the risk of costing your team their paychecks. 863 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: I imagine this was regular season. Imagine if this was 864 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: week one, then what happens or after a game and 865 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: then you test positive and then you know they're just 866 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: so much more attached to this. Whatever you do in 867 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: your private life, you know, whatever you believe in. Fine, 868 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm you know, my immune systems compromised, didn't hesitate, didn't 869 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: think anything, got it, And I'll get the third one 870 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: when I can. But if I'm playing for a team, 871 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: it's like Ron Rivera went through cancer and he just 872 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 1: finds it absolutely amazing that some of his players still 873 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: won't get vaccinated, knowing that their coach, you know, is 874 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: at risk here. But you're also putting your teammates at risk. 875 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: And that's what you sign up for when you're on 876 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: a team, and that's what I get. I'm disappointed in 877 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I really am. You got You've got children, 878 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: you want to be there for them, like you don't go. 879 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: If I die, I die? Do you really feel that way? 880 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: If I die, I die