Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Andiga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my ladies, so good to see you in person.
Speaker 1: You've been zoom faces for the last time.
Speaker 3: We haven't all been together in so long.
Speaker 1: No, no, So can we start? We have a lot
Speaker 1: to cover, Okay, can we talk about nineties con? Dying
Speaker 1: dying to hear?
Speaker 3: It's so funny because, like for the audience, it may
Speaker 3: seem like that was a while ago, especially for the
Speaker 3: fans that were there, But for us, we haven't seen
Speaker 3: each other in a lot of weeks because Daphney was
Speaker 3: traveling and during that time we were at ninetiest Con
Speaker 3: and you were not, and we missed you so much.
Speaker 2: We missed you. It was so much fuss.
Speaker 4: That was it was, It really was, And everyone was asking.
Speaker 4: Everyone was like Laura, were like, she's busy.
Speaker 1: So did you guys get to hang out a lot
Speaker 1: of we're together like all day every day? Is that
Speaker 1: how it was? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Bro shoots.
Speaker 4: Heather missed a flight, so she came in a day late.
Speaker 4: But she wasn't the only one. There were a couple
Speaker 4: of other two a couple others too. Because it was Daytona,
Speaker 4: so it wasn't It was like a.
Speaker 2: Connection kind of thing and everything.
Speaker 4: We're running around all day, right, We're just running down
Speaker 4: hallways to panels, to trivia games, to professional photos, to
Speaker 4: our booths to fans and then tons of stuff.
Speaker 1: So you're not just sitting there all day, you're actually Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had things scheduled and like group things and then
Speaker 1: still things, but we were always like right next to
Speaker 1: each other, and so we were We literally spent the
Speaker 1: entire weekend together.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like she and I did a
Speaker 2: promo while we were like in between signing autographs. I'm
Speaker 2: like behind the curtain.
Speaker 4: Going joined us on Still the Place, meeting in the
Speaker 4: curtain bar the promo like them.
Speaker 3: There, yeah, and there was like there was fun nineties
Speaker 3: music playing at the contents, so that was super fun.
Speaker 3: But it's like it's kind of loud, we need to
Speaker 3: record this promo really quick for Still the Place. I'm like,
Speaker 3: hang on, I ran to the ladies room and like
Speaker 3: I'm in the booth, I'm in the stall.
Speaker 2: And then we did too. We recorded with Josie and Grant.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got to sit down with them twice.
Speaker 3: That was really so fun, and really it just felt
Speaker 3: like this great excuse to have another getaway, like, hey,
Speaker 3: we had this road trip, this like getaway with our
Speaker 3: friends and yeah.
Speaker 1: I did some interviews yesterday for a TV movie I did,
Speaker 1: and they were asking about the podcast, and I was like, really,
Speaker 1: it's just an excuse get everybody together. Because we've seen
Speaker 1: so many of our castmates just in a couple of
Speaker 1: months we've been doing this.
Speaker 3: It's the best perf of doing this. It just feels
Speaker 3: like a guilty, like it's our actual reason for doing it.
Speaker 3: It's just to hang out with each other exactly.
Speaker 4: It's so so amazing how we did this show thirty
Speaker 4: something years ago and we can't find anyone ever since
Speaker 4: then as fun and interesting to hang out with them
Speaker 4: with each other. Well, so it's like, I know, let's
Speaker 4: watch the show again and visit with stuff together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we were sort of having that conversation with
Speaker 3: Josie and Grant too, like you know, there were a
Speaker 3: lot of years where we weren't totally in touch because
Speaker 3: everybody's lives took them a different direction. But getting reacquainted
Speaker 3: now and then going I want to be with these
Speaker 3: people and I want to I want to know about
Speaker 3: your life and I want to learn about you now
Speaker 3: and whatever. We had this shared history, but also like
Speaker 3: a new friendship too, on top of the old friendship.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the weird thing is it's like no time has passed.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the weird thing? And I think it's part
Speaker 1: of that thing of you feel a certain age. Like
Speaker 1: I look at the show, I kind of know we
Speaker 1: look different, but I feel like we still we did
Speaker 1: much the same, which we don't. Don't correct me.
Speaker 3: I recognize everybody.
Speaker 2: I just get it.
Speaker 1: So is there anyone else fun at nineties Con? Like
Speaker 1: outside of our group? Was there anything?
Speaker 2: We kids were all there. We we got to some
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a good handful. Yeah, Jenny Garth, we talked, Brian,
Speaker 4: Austin Green was there.
Speaker 2: Ian was there.
Speaker 3: I didn't see him, but yeah, there were lots of people.
Speaker 3: It was just there were such an it was such
Speaker 3: a happy vibe, like the guests and attendance, like the
Speaker 3: fans and everybody's just happy like the nineties were. Was
Speaker 3: this like happy vibe and the music and whatever. So
Speaker 3: it's just like this happy time and the.
Speaker 2: Fans are amazing.
Speaker 4: It's so nice all over I met people from Germany,
Speaker 4: from the Maldives, from Hungary, from Canada, from Brazil.
Speaker 2: I mean, they come.
Speaker 3: From all over and everybody is just so nice and
Speaker 3: happy to be there. It's just a really fun thing.
Speaker 3: So hopefully there'll be another one in the future and
Speaker 3: we can all do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well next year my son will be a senior,
Speaker 1: so he won't care if I'm there or not. You're gone,
Speaker 1: did you go, mom? I didn't even notice.
Speaker 3: In fact, could you just go to a con?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: We got to get back on track with our recaps because.
Speaker 1: I remembered this episode so clearlyss you do know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys weren't because you weren't quite there yet. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna I was gonna say, do you remember, like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not there. You weren't there at this episode? You do, yes,
Speaker 1: And we'll get into it because but I think because
Speaker 1: the woman who Billy has a little fling with in
Speaker 1: this one, well you know, I'm gonna wait until but
Speaker 1: I remember her so clearly. We had such a good time.
Speaker 1: I got along so well with her. And I'll just
Speaker 1: say this. She had to be a stand up comedian
Speaker 1: and she was horrified to have to stand up and
Speaker 1: do stand up. Have you guys ever done stand up?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, and never will?
Speaker 1: Terrifying, right, And I just remembered her the actress, the actor. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was wonderful but being so terrified about doing it.
Speaker 1: So I locked in my brain because she was so terrified.
Speaker 1: This episode locked in my brain. I remember almost every
Speaker 1: second of it.
Speaker 4: So you're like, I will never do stand up and
Speaker 4: I already required her doing stand up.
Speaker 3: I have to say, I wonder if part of the
Speaker 3: reason why you remember shooting this also, and I could
Speaker 3: see it on your face and we'll talk about it
Speaker 3: when we get there. But like you and Andrew in
Speaker 3: real life were fully dating by this time, right, yes, so.
Speaker 1: Well, from like episode three it was not right, but
Speaker 1: like you, we were professional for about seven minutes.
Speaker 3: You were all in by now, And like this episode
Speaker 3: you can really see like I think Alison's jealousy or
Speaker 3: whatever is actually Corey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you triggered watching this one car like that
Speaker 1: wasn't in the script?
Speaker 4: Cars you triggered watching this thirty years later because you've
Speaker 4: been triggered already with like guest stars.
Speaker 2: These guests stars was all over him.
Speaker 1: I remember I know that it was Jensen. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but you can see that the
Speaker 1: writers either already had the plan or we're picking up
Speaker 1: on it because there's an edge to every single line
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 3: Just so adorable. It's always always adorable. Okay, so let's
Speaker 3: jump in.
Speaker 2: We let's see.
Speaker 3: The name of this episode is Responsibly Yours. This is
Speaker 3: season one, episode nine, Responsibly Yours. In this episode, Billy
Speaker 3: is going to attempt a relationship with an older woman
Speaker 3: who becomes she is a stand up comic. Things get
Speaker 3: complicated because we're gonna find out she.
Speaker 2: Has a kid.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all the usual suspects of responsibility, all the
Speaker 3: usual suspects. And this this show is, of course created
Speaker 3: by Darren Starr. This episod It was written by Darren
Speaker 3: Starr and Frederick Rappaport.
Speaker 2: I am going to wear my glasses today.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it, all right. So the episode opens,
Speaker 3: Billy is driving his taxi down the street. He notices
Speaker 3: a woman leaning over the open hood of a car.
Speaker 3: He pulls over and approaches the woman. Can I lend
Speaker 3: you a hand?
Speaker 1: And by the way, did you guys notice in our
Speaker 1: sweet Billy that moment of lecherousness.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I'm like, hello, what do I see bending
Speaker 3: over the.
Speaker 2: Hear of the car?
Speaker 3: But yeah, and he gets out in his giant jean shorts.
Speaker 1: George George's George before.
Speaker 3: They were even in giant jean shorts. But yeah, he
Speaker 3: offers to help with whatever's wrong with her car. Turns
Speaker 3: out he doesn't really know what's going on with her car.
Speaker 3: She seems to know more than he does, but he
Speaker 3: offers her a ride.
Speaker 4: So are we can talking about who it is our
Speaker 4: guest star there? Yeah, so it's Joyce Heiser. Yes, Joyce
Speaker 4: Heiser had a big movie in the eighties, so almost
Speaker 4: ten years before this just one of the boys.
Speaker 1: Oh it was before this.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Happened?
Speaker 2: So that was in the eighties. This is in ninety two.
Speaker 4: But you know, people have talked about in our comments
Speaker 4: as well, the guest stars. We've talked about it, like
Speaker 4: the guest stars, what either they've already done or what
Speaker 4: they've gone on to do. We've had some great guest
Speaker 4: stars on this show. So anyway, Joyce Heiser had a
Speaker 4: you know, solid career already. And I was talking to
Speaker 4: a friend yesterday, this is how small the town was
Speaker 4: back then.
Speaker 2: Who's like he watched the episode because he's watching and
Speaker 2: listening along with us.
Speaker 4: And he's like, you know what, I came. I auditioned
Speaker 4: for Just One of the Boys. I came down to
Speaker 4: down to the wire, but they gave it to Clayton Roner,
Speaker 4: who a couple of years later, I did.
Speaker 2: A movie with Clayton Roner. Wow, Modern Girls.
Speaker 4: But and now he's friends with and knows and has dinner,
Speaker 4: has had dinner with the director of Just One of
Speaker 4: the Boys.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's very good.
Speaker 3: Crazy small town.
Speaker 4: It was a small town, Yeahore, I mean we all
Speaker 4: you know you audition and.
Speaker 1: We also all lived here. Like now people live in
Speaker 1: New York and they live in Atlanta. People of every
Speaker 1: work because that's where the work is now, right, It's
Speaker 1: not a company town as much.
Speaker 4: And people audition online with their self tapes and like, like,
Speaker 4: when was the last time anyone was in a room
Speaker 4: with an actual producer castide person.
Speaker 3: It's not quite the same process anymore.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: I think I think her experience really shows in this,
Speaker 4: Like she was very solid.
Speaker 2: You know, like she knew these solid.
Speaker 4: Some of these lines were kind of cheesy and like
Speaker 4: a little cringe for me. But she knew what they
Speaker 4: wanted and she.
Speaker 1: Delivered and she committed, Like she was terrified to do
Speaker 1: the stand up, but she stood up there and she
Speaker 1: committed and it really worked. Yeah, she was great. She
Speaker 1: was fun to work with.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: I really remember her well, so cool and I was
Speaker 1: thinking too. My favorite part of being a regular on
Speaker 1: TV series is meeting the guest stars. That's my favorite part.
Speaker 1: Like you're doing the work with they bring new friends
Speaker 1: in for you every week to meet and be a
Speaker 1: part of. You get to welcome the Mendi your little family.
Speaker 1: I really that's probably the thing I missed most webbing
Speaker 1: on a series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this injection of new age of money.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so there was money.
Speaker 2: Well that was a given, all right. So there they go.
Speaker 3: She gets in his car. He's blasting music. She asks
Speaker 3: for less volume, and then she reveals that she's a
Speaker 3: shoe salesman. Billy is taken with her anyways, tells her
Speaker 3: she's funny. They pull into a service station, where she
Speaker 3: reveals that she doesn't have the money to pay for
Speaker 3: the cab, so she pays the place.
Speaker 1: Did you recognize the shoe brand? Like these are of us?
Speaker 1: It was it was made brand like it was a
Speaker 1: take on, like it was close to something that's a brand,
Speaker 1: but it was made up brand. That's what I wondered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not, but it was something something else.
Speaker 1: I think I was very close.
Speaker 3: Laura, it's familiar. So she offers to pay Billy for
Speaker 3: the cab with show tickets to her stand up gig.
Speaker 2: Then we cut to by the way. Sorry, I'm just remembering.
Speaker 4: This is the second time we've seen where one of
Speaker 4: these people is offering payment.
Speaker 2: With like tickets to a show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody's like that was back in the day when
Speaker 4: you know, you were putting on stand up or art
Speaker 4: shows or dance shows, and like your form of payment
Speaker 4: and currency was here's some free tickets.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like no one had money.
Speaker 3: I think it's also like a writing like mechanism to
Speaker 3: get the people to that performance is a story point. Yeah, like,
Speaker 3: oh well, Jake finds Michael in the courtyard, tells Michael
Speaker 3: that he's too spiffy to be gardening, because Michael seems
Speaker 3: to be all dressed up, he's wearing his tie, and
Speaker 3: he's tending to be as say, spiffy, spiffy.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 3: I think he says spiffy or was that my note?
Speaker 3: Do you remember did he say spiffy? I think he
Speaker 3: said spiffy. I can't remember, but I don't think I
Speaker 3: would have written it if he hadn't. Actually, he's spiffy.
Speaker 3: He's just spiffy dressed in his line.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is so grant. So Michael tells Jake that
Speaker 3: Jane wants to have dinner tonight and he thinks he
Speaker 3: might get lucky, and Jake says, well, you know, dude,
Speaker 3: you're you're definitely lucky. You've got the girl, you've got
Speaker 3: this relationship, and all of a sudden, Jake is sort
Speaker 3: of like going, how do you do? What's what's your secret?
Speaker 3: How do you know? And Michael's like, well, you've you've
Speaker 3: got all this freedom, what do you mean you're lucky too,
Speaker 3: and and Jake says, no, what he wants to do
Speaker 3: is figure out how to, you know, figure out this
Speaker 3: relationship thing. So Michael gives him some advice. He tells
Speaker 3: them to uh ramp down, tamp down those animal instincts
Speaker 3: and there's something to be said for taking it slow
Speaker 3: friendship first, he says.
Speaker 1: Which is very good advice I much say, but I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. About seven times he says, you know how
Speaker 1: to get the ladies. You can get the ladies. You
Speaker 1: know how to get the ladies. Like wow, we really
Speaker 1: so wait.
Speaker 3: Does Jake now to get the ladies to get right quickly?
Speaker 2: I mean, because it's not obvious by the way that
Speaker 2: he looks.
Speaker 1: It's always got so much to work through.
Speaker 4: It so hard to really sell that Grant that sorry,
Speaker 4: Jake can get whoever you want right.
Speaker 3: But I thought it was really cute, Like like Jake's approach.
Speaker 3: He was like sort of kind of vulnerable and like
Speaker 3: actually asking.
Speaker 1: And I love it when they because that is Grant,
Speaker 1: Like Grant really has that side to him. I love
Speaker 1: it when he gets to show it Jake.
Speaker 3: It's so sweet. So that scene ends with Jake considering
Speaker 3: could he do something like that friendship first? What a concept?
Speaker 3: So then we cut to Billy and Allison's apartment where
Speaker 3: it's Billy and Allison's apartment right where Ronda was cooking.
Speaker 3: It wasn't Ronda's apartment, it was BILLI and Allison's I
Speaker 3: think it was right. Dinner party with Ronda and Matt,
Speaker 3: Billy and Allison, but I believe they were having the
Speaker 3: dinner in Billy and Allison's apartment. However, Ronda was cooking,
Speaker 3: and she's cooking, Matt is teasing Billy about the new
Speaker 3: crush he has on this girl, Dawn, and we kind
Speaker 3: of pick up on a little bit of jealousy from
Speaker 3: the look on Allison's face, and that's where I wondered, as, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was maybe Corny's showing through. But she does tease
Speaker 3: Billy about his interest in Dawn and that and that
Speaker 3: he's not very mature in general, and the theme of
Speaker 3: all the teasing seems to be that Billy is a child,
Speaker 3: that he's immature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're pitching it as a big age difference.
Speaker 1: It didn't look like an age difference. But then they
Speaker 1: said at one point he was twenty three, and I
Speaker 1: was like, twenty three, that's crazy, But I was twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe we were that young. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember feeling very grown up, but that's very young.
Speaker 2: You were twenty four.
Speaker 3: So I think the idea is that this girl had
Speaker 3: to be older because she's been married for years already, right,
Speaker 3: So that just is an indication of But it never
Speaker 3: kind of comes.
Speaker 1: Up this she is older, married at fourteen, we should
Speaker 1: assume that.
Speaker 3: So. So yeah, so they're teasing him and they're making
Speaker 3: this dinner and he says he'll pay for his portion
Speaker 3: of the dinner with the comedy show tickets.
Speaker 1: So twice in one episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, paying for something, because now everybody has to get
Speaker 3: the party show. How else are you going to get there?
Speaker 3: So at the comedy Show down's routine, reveals that she
Speaker 3: is in fact divorced, which is news to Billy and everybody,
Speaker 3: and she makes some jokes about marriage, which Billy kind
Speaker 3: of laughs too hard at, and she he elbows Alison
Speaker 3: very hard in the arms. At one point I had
Speaker 3: to go back and go, oh my god, the look
Speaker 3: on your face was like actual, ah. Actual. After her set,
Speaker 3: she approaches the table says side of the gang, Billy.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Doug and Vanessa were playing it
Speaker 1: like they didn't like it? It was super uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I felt like they were just trying to be polite. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like Billy was really like taken with it, like, oh,
Speaker 3: isn't she great? And everybody was like, yes, very politely,
Speaker 3: yes she's great. Yes, you know, like even when Matt says, oh,
Speaker 3: I really liked the part about you know, single life.
Speaker 3: He's really trying to be nice, like picking out a
Speaker 3: part of her.
Speaker 1: Shit supposed to be good. Yeah, obviously we know the
Speaker 1: actor is good. But yeah, that was confusing to me.
Speaker 3: I just thought I thought it was like demonstrating that
Speaker 3: Billy was just smitten. Like so his level of you know, approval.
Speaker 1: Didn't you know when she came to the table and
Speaker 1: he put his arm around her again Courtney Allison, very
Speaker 1: fine line, but he put his arm around her, thinking
Speaker 1: that's too soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and so I think that's the part of
Speaker 4: the show though.
Speaker 2: He's it's all too soon.
Speaker 4: He's acting to remember she even just a couple of
Speaker 4: scenes later he's like this is too.
Speaker 3: Much or yeah maybe midpoint coming on, coming on too much,
Speaker 3: too fast, too soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's it just shows his kind of like
Speaker 4: naivete and excitement about it. I think, yeah, well maybe
Speaker 4: this is a girlfriend material, the girl I picked.
Speaker 2: Up the side of the road. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was thinking like from her point of view, that
Speaker 3: was our cab driver, like you like nobody ever really
Speaker 3: talking about he is her cab driver.
Speaker 2: There's his arm around her.
Speaker 3: Like a creepy element, like wait, the cab driver that
Speaker 3: just wouldn't leave, Like, I know.
Speaker 4: I think Alison needs to tell Billy you cannot pick
Speaker 4: up any women as a cab driver.
Speaker 3: I'm over this, yeah, just like don't don't speak like.
Speaker 2: Speak.
Speaker 3: I wonder how long he's going to be a cab driver.
Speaker 3: Since I wasn't there, I have no idea how long
Speaker 3: he'll also.
Speaker 1: Sign of the times right in La, you don't see
Speaker 1: cabs moving around looking for customers on the street anymore,
Speaker 1: looking for women bent over their car anymore.
Speaker 3: Looking like Andrew Shoe Anyway, none of these things exist
Speaker 3: in real life. Billy invites don to stay, maybe they
Speaker 3: could grab a pizza or something. She says she needs
Speaker 3: to catch the last bus, the downtown bus home. Billy
Speaker 3: offers her a ride driving her home instead, which she
Speaker 3: then accepts.
Speaker 1: And I guess we take the bus home.
Speaker 3: Did he drive? Maybe he drove, Maybe he didn't drive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you so he would be driving his cab right
Speaker 4: or does he have another car? This poor guy, like
Speaker 4: he's driving his cab everywhere, just turning.
Speaker 2: It on off duty.
Speaker 3: That's right, I love, We'll just walk so Alison here
Speaker 3: rolls her eyes. Don makes one more awkward joke on
Speaker 3: her exit, and she says somebody out of bottle the
Speaker 3: sky from a.
Speaker 1: Purposes out on Alison.
Speaker 3: So then Billy and daughter having a great time late
Speaker 3: night coffee at a table for two. Billy learns that
Speaker 3: Dawn was married for eight years. She tells him that
Speaker 3: her ex didn't really support her dreams, and Billy commiserates, says, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really hard when someone you love doesn't support you.
Speaker 3: Then he reaches across the table for her hand, saying,
Speaker 3: sometimes it helps if there's someone there to catch you.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Now we would call that love bombing.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little I think it's just a
Speaker 4: big love bomber in this whole episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he felt hard and fast, like I can be
Speaker 3: there to catch you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will be your hero.
Speaker 3: Yeah we've only just met and I know I'm your
Speaker 3: cab driver. But then we cut to Shooters. Jake is
Speaker 3: asking Sandy out for a burger after work. She's not
Speaker 3: so sure. Didn't they already try this one? She thinks,
Speaker 3: So Sandy tells Jake, you know, I think that you know,
Speaker 3: after our one night stand, I was ready for more
Speaker 3: and Jake says, well, then let's let's try this again.
Speaker 3: Let's try to wipe the slate clean. We'll start over
Speaker 3: this time, just as friends. And I feel like Jake
Speaker 3: is super earnest here.
Speaker 1: He's super He had a line that I promise you
Speaker 1: Grant fought, where he says, abstinence makes the heart girl
Speaker 1: fonder and she goes absence, and I was like, Grant
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, does he have to sound so stupid?
Speaker 1: Like I know that Grant Grant said it through gritted teeth.
Speaker 1: I was like, he does not like that, lie? Did
Speaker 1: you notice?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I also got the sense that he, you know,
Speaker 3: he tried to do it like a wink and not
Speaker 3: like the character's like, I know the difference. I just
Speaker 3: have to say this line like, you know, like the
Speaker 3: character does.
Speaker 1: He even made it work. But I could hear him
Speaker 1: having an argument. I could see him like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to, but.
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like the whole scene was written just to
Speaker 3: get to that line, Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.
Speaker 3: So they decide to give it a shot, maybe a
Speaker 3: platonic date, we'll see. But we cut back to Billy
Speaker 3: and Don at the pizza place.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: There, he's taking her home there, walking through the hallway
Speaker 3: of her apartment, and the night almost ends in a
Speaker 3: kiss at the door. After Billy ends, he suggests that
Speaker 3: the night doesn't need to end, but the apartment door opens,
Speaker 3: revealing a young boy and his babysitter. Don introduces Billy
Speaker 3: to her son Martin, and relieves the babysitter, which is.
Speaker 1: The name of a fifty year old comedy writer.
Speaker 2: Martin Martin. Yeah, it was Marty.
Speaker 3: Martin is the name of the child, and Billy.
Speaker 1: Is the name.
Speaker 4: Is Martin played by Justin Izfeld. He's the guy who
Speaker 4: went on to be in all the American Pie movies.
Speaker 3: Yes, so the kid playing Martin Martin Martin, mister child Martin,
Speaker 3: Well he was. He was great in this episode. And
Speaker 3: it's just so funny that that was the character's name.
Speaker 3: I laughed about it through the whole time to him
Speaker 3: as Martin. There's actually one point actually in this next
Speaker 3: scene I didn't know I caught Alison laughing at it too.
Speaker 1: Did you get to I feel like you couldn't help it.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're back at Allison in Billy's apartment, Allison's
Speaker 3: getting ready for work in the morning. Billy returns home,
Speaker 3: saying that he it's not that he was out late
Speaker 3: with down, but that he actually drove the graveyard shift
Speaker 3: last night. And oh yeah, by the way, Don has
Speaker 3: a son Martin.
Speaker 1: Wait, is this what I'm doing? The crossword puzzle?
Speaker 3: No, oh, okay, you're just getting ready for else we
Speaker 3: blazer on and oh yeah a belt, Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 3: of yeah. And then but I just I laughed because
Speaker 3: al he says Don has a son, Martin. He's like, well,
Speaker 3: Martin was there and mar.
Speaker 2: Martin a fifty year old man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah, what was her dad doing there? Grandpa?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So yeah, No, Billy says, this is
Speaker 3: a kid. I'm still interested in Dawn. I'm just concerned
Speaker 3: about the complications of having a kid around, and Alison
Speaker 3: is sort of empathetic, saying, well, it must be really
Speaker 3: hard to be a single mom and have guys running
Speaker 3: away at the side of your kid, which seemed to
Speaker 3: sort of encourage Billy, who says, yeah, maybe I'm just
Speaker 3: being selfish. I can do this even with the kid around.
Speaker 3: But Alison pushes him and questions sort of whether Billy
Speaker 3: is mature enough to understand how to handle the dynamic
Speaker 3: of a whole family, at which time he turns it
Speaker 3: on her, saying that just because Alison is intimidated by children,
Speaker 3: and Alison's like, what, I was a great babysitter. Everyone
Speaker 3: said so.
Speaker 1: So everyone's talking about it to this day.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. So that was sort of a funny,
Speaker 3: Like he tries to say, well, just because you're intimidated
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can't handle it, and it comes out
Speaker 3: of yeah, because that was a really mature way sitting
Speaker 3: on that one, real mature Billy. We're back with Ronda
Speaker 3: and Sandy. Sandy's getting ready for her date with Jake,
Speaker 3: and Ronda is warning her that Jake never called her
Speaker 3: back the first time and he may not have really changed,
Speaker 3: you know, any in the last time.
Speaker 4: Never called them back after they hooked up, after they
Speaker 4: had their one night stand. Yeah, and then they sow
Speaker 4: that whole course, the whole theme of this is, you know,
Speaker 4: they're trying to be platonic, and Billy is trying to see.
Speaker 2: If he's good father materially, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of.
Speaker 4: They always seem to do this, like these two sort
Speaker 4: of parallel stories are opposite.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ronda is saying to Sandy, you know, you guys
Speaker 4: hooked up and then he never called you, and.
Speaker 2: I think it. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like god in the same apartment building,
Speaker 4: like we have just banged on his door, and so
Speaker 4: what that? Well?
Speaker 1: But also I felt like, are we pretending that we
Speaker 1: haven't seen them flirt in every single episode? Right, Like
Speaker 1: it's not like that's what happened and they didn't speak
Speaker 1: till this moment, right, they're almost doing it in every
Speaker 1: single Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well then they're trying.
Speaker 4: To do it platonically now just be friends trying. It's
Speaker 4: like new territory. Sorry for them.
Speaker 3: And Ronda is saying to Sandy, like, you do you
Speaker 3: trust him? Do you feel like you can trust him?
Speaker 3: And Sandy ends that scene by saying, well, I don't
Speaker 3: know if I can trust myself, which is sort of
Speaker 3: the foreshadowing of like, oh, we just can't keep our
Speaker 3: hands off each other. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I can, because it's just.
Speaker 1: She's like a cat on a hot tin room. Yeah
Speaker 1: that she does never accent anymore.
Speaker 3: Indeed, then we could really identify. So then dinner at
Speaker 3: the dinner table at Down's house is Billy Down and
Speaker 3: Martin child. Yeah, super awkward and tense. At the dinner table,
Speaker 3: Martin wants nothing to do with Billy. Billy does offer
Speaker 3: to drive Dawn to her gig coming up in Ventura,
Speaker 3: and because Dawn reminds him that her car is broken down,
Speaker 3: but Martin the child says no way, will I ride
Speaker 3: with Billy? And then a screaming fight ensued.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a sign of the times,
Speaker 1: but now like when people are divorced with kids in
Speaker 1: they date, it's like nobody meets the kids for six months.
Speaker 1: You would never have your first date.
Speaker 3: Yeah at home at the family dinner table.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like you to call Billy daddy. I know
Speaker 1: you just met her.
Speaker 3: He was my cab driver yesterday today to take your
Speaker 3: new daddy. Oh god, you so Down and Martin start
Speaker 3: yelling at each other, and that screaming fight reveals that
Speaker 3: Martin's dad, in Dawn's words, won't pay child support, and
Speaker 3: therefore Dawn is struggling to find that three hundred dollars
Speaker 3: that she needs to fix her car, and Billy seems
Speaker 3: to want to stick this out. Instead of finding that
Speaker 3: very concerning of how they scream, she.
Speaker 1: Seems to hear it is a direct question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, sorry, let me try to solve the
Speaker 3: money problem instead of going why is this mother screaming
Speaker 3: so ragefully at her child? Which I thought was a
Speaker 3: fair question. I mean, I'm watching this for the first time.
Speaker 1: Going wow, I see a red flag.
Speaker 3: Like to me, seemed like not your typical mother son relationship.
Speaker 3: But anyway, there Dawn says something she needs to apologize
Speaker 3: for us as she leaves the table to go apologize
Speaker 3: to Smart and leaving Billy alone.
Speaker 1: The wheels are turning. Considering wheels are turning, there's a
Speaker 1: plan being formed.
Speaker 3: So Sandy and Jake are at their bar after their
Speaker 3: movie date, congratulating themselves on getting through the movie without
Speaker 3: jumping each other's bones.
Speaker 4: They're trying not to entangle themselves, and Billy's trying to
Speaker 4: desperately to entangle himself anyway.
Speaker 3: He cannot be right, and so the conversation quickly takes
Speaker 3: a turn when Jake reminds Sandy just how tricky it
Speaker 3: is to have Sandy live in just right upstairs, and
Speaker 3: he says I don't know how many times I thought
Speaker 3: about coming upstairs and.
Speaker 1: Just dot dot dot yeah.
Speaker 3: And Sandy agrees, I know what you mean, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: So it just took a very quick turn. So much
Speaker 3: for congratulating themselves.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean that, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You see the heat between them for so many episodes,
Speaker 4: and so it is.
Speaker 2: You know it's not going to work.
Speaker 4: But I mean, it's just this whole storyline makes total
Speaker 4: sense with me and to me, you know, because they're
Speaker 4: all they are is like sex, these two, you know,
Speaker 4: they're the sexual characters on the show, and.
Speaker 2: Let's just try to be friends and this whole thing,
Speaker 2: oh yes, well, how was your day? You know, the
Speaker 2: kind of thing just isn't going to be them. You know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna end up ripping each other so close it off.
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand about this conflict, which is
Speaker 1: we're great friends, about the hats for each other. Isn't
Speaker 1: that the perfect relationship? I mean, I think that's the ideal.
Speaker 2: I know, why are they what's the problem?
Speaker 1: See the problem?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 4: I think because they don't know how to do what
Speaker 4: comes next, which is being responsible to each other, being respectful,
Speaker 4: having a conversation. You know that that ideally that happened
Speaker 4: after you, you know, hook.
Speaker 2: Up, and they just kind of like freak out. That's
Speaker 2: all they know how to do is a hookup.
Speaker 1: So once they have sex, they kill the friendship. They
Speaker 1: can't maintain both. They don't know how to Well yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking that sounds very good to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it does sound like like Sandy's feelings were hurt,
Speaker 3: like wait a minute, you know we have this it
Speaker 3: turned out to be a one night stand, but like
Speaker 3: she thought, you know, not hearing from him about it after,
Speaker 3: like it never happened again, or like hello, like what
Speaker 3: oh you just yeah.
Speaker 2: Listen, you've been married how many years? But for those
Speaker 2: of us who haven't.
Speaker 1: And it's still just as hot as the first is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he does call you, right, we actually
Speaker 3: still speak.
Speaker 2: You text you from the kitchen, you do, hey, how
Speaker 2: you doing? What are you wearing? Get in the car
Speaker 2: to go to rehearsal, and he's like, you're so hot?
Speaker 3: Every day? Nice every day we tell each other.
Speaker 4: I guess what I wanted to get to is that
Speaker 4: I think a lot of women can relate to you
Speaker 4: know that the hunt is over and then you don't
Speaker 4: hear from them. Yeah, interesting to remember those back in
Speaker 4: the day many years ago.
Speaker 3: Well back to Don's house, Yes, speaking of creepy, Billy
Speaker 3: lets himself into Martin's bedroom while he's maybe sleeping, but
Speaker 3: it turns out Martin's lying in bed crying, not sleeping.
Speaker 3: Billy just sort of walks in and says he wants
Speaker 3: to talk to Martin like men, which Martin points out
Speaker 3: that he can't really do because he's a kid. Also,
Speaker 3: you're a stranger entered my bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's that, which we never kind of address,
Speaker 3: but I was conscious of it the entire scene.
Speaker 4: But this whole thing is very Billy to me. He's
Speaker 4: just kind of like clueless and privileged, like this good
Speaker 4: look and what guy can do whatever, Like it doesn't
Speaker 4: even dawn on him that I should be going in there.
Speaker 3: There's a line you shouldn't cross, here's a relationship.
Speaker 1: I imagine. On the day, Andrews said, really, yes, it's fine,
Speaker 1: he's all right.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was a directorial thing, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's too hard to shoot the whole scene with you
Speaker 3: just standing in the doorway and have these conversations. So
Speaker 3: ony don't you go over and sit on the bed
Speaker 3: like it just got really well.
Speaker 4: They always love you close to each other on set,
Speaker 4: so they don't have to do all these different angles
Speaker 4: like the over the shoulder and this and that. They
Speaker 4: just if they can just get you in one shot,
Speaker 4: that would be so get close somehow.
Speaker 2: Don't you remember that though?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but it's And it's also like you can
Speaker 3: tell by the music cues, like what they wanted the
Speaker 3: tone of the scene to feel like, oh that this
Speaker 3: needs to feel like a really intimate, like you know,
Speaker 3: adult child conversation, and he's being really gentle, and the
Speaker 3: music he was very hallmarky schmaltzy, you know, but it's like, wait,
Speaker 3: we're not addressing the weirdness like sitting down on the
Speaker 3: kid's bed uninvited, Like yeah, not Andrew's.
Speaker 1: Fault, not Andrews fault, No, no, no.
Speaker 3: Just a pitfall. And so he tries to he tries
Speaker 3: to bond with Martin. I keep wanting to call Martin
Speaker 3: Billy because that's a child's name. Yes, okay, Billy the
Speaker 3: adult wants to bond with Martin the child over the
Speaker 3: terminator movies and wants to talk to him and say, oh,
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're a fan of this too, and
Speaker 3: he reminds Martin that the terminator was always there for
Speaker 3: the kid and his mother, but Martin says, yeah, but
Speaker 3: the terminator went away in the end, and then Billy says, yeah,
Speaker 3: but that was in the movie. This is real. Kind
Speaker 3: of a creepy scene, but I think the point was
Speaker 3: is that Billy's just continuing to want to insert himself.
Speaker 1: In this relationship to be the hero is fantasy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he wants to be the hero. Jake and
Speaker 3: Sandy are returning home and they're in the courtyard. Instead
Speaker 3: of saying good night with just a handshake and a hug,
Speaker 3: they start making out and Jake lets them into his apartment,
Speaker 3: bringing her onto the couch, making out all the way
Speaker 3: until Sandy stops him and says, wait, we are supposed
Speaker 3: to be taking it slow, at which time Sandy accuses
Speaker 3: Jake of getting carried away, saying it's all this is
Speaker 3: all he's ever wanted, but Jake is confusing. Wait wait,
Speaker 3: I thought this was mutual that hug and then there
Speaker 3: was much more. I detected it. We're both getting carried away.
Speaker 3: And then Sandy's pissed off because she says, you know,
Speaker 3: there's nothing between us besides sex. They yell at each
Speaker 3: other and Sandy storms out, saying we're nothing, there's nothing
Speaker 3: between us. So that was abrupt, very abrupt.
Speaker 1: This is the part they have trouble with. That's what
Speaker 1: Daphney was saying. Once the sex comes into it, they
Speaker 1: have trouble communicating. So now I see it, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, I see it.
Speaker 4: You see what a therapeutic show this is for people
Speaker 4: working to do.
Speaker 2: We're working through for everybody.
Speaker 3: So Billy comes home to find Allison awake doing a
Speaker 3: crossword puzzle.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is my question. Four letter word from
Speaker 1: Behemoth huge.
Speaker 3: That's the one I thought of.
Speaker 1: Did you think of that?
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that.
Speaker 3: I thought Behemoth would have been a better answer to
Speaker 3: something like I think they.
Speaker 1: Wanted the audience to get it. He's like TV guy, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Melrose blank.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, thank goodness. I feel so smart that we
Speaker 3: both got the same word.
Speaker 1: So we found out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't to lie to you and lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Billy's sort of hanging his head about needing three hundred
Speaker 3: dollars and Alison says, wait, I can loan you the money,
Speaker 3: what's it for, At which time he lies to Alison,
Speaker 3: making up a story about his own car being damaged
Speaker 3: and that he needs to fix it for his job.
Speaker 3: Allison says she'll happily help them, because, after all, it's
Speaker 3: for his job, and wouldn't he just do the same
Speaker 3: for her?
Speaker 1: I know, weren't you just yeah, she only has five
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve dollars in her account, so she's giving
Speaker 1: him more than half that.
Speaker 3: Very generous.
Speaker 2: You know exactly how much you had.
Speaker 1: I was, I was doing the math in my head.
Speaker 3: Billy's face is racked with guilt over the lie.
Speaker 1: Yes, sort of.
Speaker 3: Sort of, not guilty enough to tell the truth, but
Speaker 3: he's going to do it anyway. So the next day
Speaker 3: he delivers the money to Dawn, and she said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: this is all going too fast for me. Even though
Speaker 3: she appreciates the help, she does reveal at that point
Speaker 3: that she's overwhelmed by Billy's sort of like willingness to
Speaker 3: help and she doesn't even have a babysitter for the gig,
Speaker 3: and this is all too much, and what Billy is doing,
Speaker 3: which is helping her, is really scary, she says, and
Speaker 3: Billy says it's scary for him too. What can I say?
Speaker 3: He says, I think you're the greatest, and Don's face
Speaker 3: shows a little bit of trepidation, like, wow, this capt
Speaker 3: is coming on.
Speaker 1: It's a lot, Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: So then Jake and Michael are doing launder in the
Speaker 3: launder room, Jake and his tank top of course, and
Speaker 3: Jake is angry again, telling Michael that he tried to
Speaker 3: do what Michael told him to do, taking it slow,
Speaker 3: but it didn't work out, and angrily he tells Michael
Speaker 3: that every so often Sandy would God forbid smile at
Speaker 3: him and then forget it.
Speaker 1: Clearly the messages she was asking for she was again
Speaker 1: not exactly what he's saying.
Speaker 2: I didn't really play for bid she.
Speaker 3: Smiled at me and then forget it. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: what was I supposed to do?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the scene cuts to Sandy telling Ronda
Speaker 3: her version of it where Jake was all over her
Speaker 3: like a cheap suit. So they're both venting their to
Speaker 3: their friends.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, that was good, I like it.
Speaker 3: Back and forth, and it went back a couple of times.
Speaker 2: The boys and the girls all have different.
Speaker 3: And you know, like, well, I kind of told you so,
Speaker 3: and Sandy's like, please don't say that, and uh, but
Speaker 3: that both of them can clue to their friends that
Speaker 3: the other one is not ready for a commitment or
Speaker 3: a serious relationship. So then we're back with Billy and
Speaker 3: the child Martin. Billy is bringing the child Martin home
Speaker 3: to his apartment, where they surprise Alison in her robe
Speaker 3: doing her pedicure, and Billy's going to be babysitting for
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: And I like the fact that Martin's mother said to
Speaker 1: the man who went into her son's bedroom the first
Speaker 1: night they met, and an't you take him for the evening?
Speaker 3: Why don't you have the whole day?
Speaker 1: Why don't you go on your own date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, while I'm on a town you just have my
Speaker 3: kid for the whole day. Do whatever you want, go
Speaker 3: ahead and take him to your apartment. Whatever. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: luckily Alison was there, so she.
Speaker 1: Was really worried about the stand up. Maybe she should
Speaker 1: have been worried about the parenting. Maybe there was maybe
Speaker 1: we had the focus. There's a lot to worry about here,
Speaker 1: But Alison is there. She tries to offer Martin a
Speaker 1: snack Billy and Allison are sort of trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to babysit together, and then Billy suggests, why
Speaker 1: don't we go to Magic Mountain?
Speaker 3: Magic Mountain?
Speaker 2: So I want to know, did you you guys shot there?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Because we were right next to Magic Mountain. I remembered
Speaker 1: watching it was that there was an article in the
Speaker 1: Inquirer that I got off a ride and threw up.
Speaker 1: That's what I remember, really, mm hmmm, and did you?
Speaker 1: And there was something about Heather, which was funny because
Speaker 1: Heather wasn't even in the scene, but Heather was there
Speaker 1: and we got in a fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really loved the Inquirer for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun faction.
Speaker 2: It's weird that they were just like, did you feel
Speaker 2: nauseous at all? Maybe now you know they.
Speaker 1: Just make random stuff up.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought the footage of you guys on the
Speaker 3: roller coaster was adorable. You guys are like legitimately joyful,
Speaker 3: like smiling that that's like roller coaster smile that you
Speaker 3: can't wipe off your face.
Speaker 2: It's just so sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what was he like to work with now
Speaker 4: that we're what was Martin the kid?
Speaker 2: Oh? He's fine.
Speaker 1: You know, the kids are sweet. They've got their mom
Speaker 1: there and the teacher there and you're rushing around. But
Speaker 1: he was sweet.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, and you got to go on a
Speaker 3: roller coaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what a fun job for a fun job.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So at the end of that scene, Martin is getting
Speaker 3: a snack at a snackstand and Billy and Allison are
Speaker 3: having a conversation. Billy reminds Allison reminds Billy how much
Speaker 3: of a commitment it would be to actually have a
Speaker 3: kid full time. Billy says, well, maybe someday, Alison, you'll
Speaker 3: have kids because someone yeah, everyone wants. Every woman wants
Speaker 3: to be a mom.
Speaker 2: He said, you say to him, I don't want kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he says every woman wants to be a mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So as someone the only person here who doesn't have
Speaker 4: kids and who never wanted them, that's very common, especially
Speaker 4: I've had that coming from.
Speaker 3: Men, just the assumption that every woman wants to.
Speaker 2: Be the declarative statement, right, every woman wants to.
Speaker 1: Have children, or and that you'll regret it if you don't.
Speaker 2: All these yea in society to have a kid? Does that,
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 4: And I loved the term that my girlfriend of mine
Speaker 4: who doesn't have kids, who never wanted them child free.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that too. That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's great to know that about your scene.
Speaker 2: It is great.
Speaker 1: Not do it because it's hard, and if you don't
Speaker 1: want to do it, you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely should absolutely yea shouldn't.
Speaker 1: But I saw this scene and you guys will see
Speaker 1: it when when your episodes come up. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to redo it. I'm like, can I ever redo for
Speaker 1: this scene? I would play this so differently if I
Speaker 1: could just act, like, if we could redo the scene differently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't. I didn't like the way I
Speaker 1: played it, and I was like, oh, it was just
Speaker 1: I felt like it was just one note. Like I
Speaker 1: just sort of went through it. And I think it
Speaker 1: was out of fear, probably that the material felt scary
Speaker 1: to me. So I just sort of went through it
Speaker 1: and it was just you'll see, like there were scenes
Speaker 1: where you go, oh, I'd love another shot.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I love another shot at most of my scenes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But there are some that you really go, oh boy,
Speaker 1: I misplayed it well.
Speaker 3: Also, just the subject matter with him saying every woman
Speaker 3: wants this, and you're like, as the character, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think I want this, and I don't think
Speaker 3: I could handle it.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I was mature enough as a
Speaker 1: person that like I could play. I understood everything about
Speaker 1: that scene, now, That's what it was. It was like I
Speaker 1: didn't have the layers that the scene needed because I
Speaker 1: just think I wasn't there yet. I was twenty four,
Speaker 1: like I was thinking, of course, I'll be a mom
Speaker 1: and half like I just wasn't. I hadn't had the
Speaker 1: complicated thoughts about it that the scene needed.
Speaker 3: Well, for what it's worth, I thought you did at
Speaker 3: a very age appropriate level, like I did, think you
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: For that plays it strategy age appropriate level.
Speaker 2: It was fine.
Speaker 3: That was that was the character's age, you know, that
Speaker 3: was the character's point of view at her age, and.
Speaker 1: So I think they can only do so much. So Courtney,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Forty, I thought you were great in the scene and
Speaker 3: I got it like that you were. You know, that
Speaker 3: was a complicated conversation, and I thought that like Billy
Speaker 3: again was sort of inserting himself and making assumptions that
Speaker 3: he wasn't his to make they rode the roller coaster.
Speaker 3: They had this weird conversation and then they they we
Speaker 3: go back to back to the courtyard where the gang
Speaker 3: is in the pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like Matt came to so Doug came
Speaker 4: to work to get in the pool.
Speaker 3: He had a dinner party scene and then he was
Speaker 3: in the pool and I think that was all of
Speaker 3: his appearances. And they're playing with Martin the Kid.
Speaker 4: I noticed that Billy is doing his soccer stuff at.
Speaker 3: This Yeah, he had a couple of good headers, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like basketball soccer in the pool.
Speaker 4: Because at that point, well he had already played Andrew
Speaker 4: had already played with the Galaxy, right, remember.
Speaker 1: Remember when that happened?
Speaker 3: Did happened professional soccer? I think in in Africa, right,
Speaker 3: that's where he's here.
Speaker 2: Where was he La Galaxy?
Speaker 4: But in our interview he said but I don't remember
Speaker 4: if he said afterwards or before he did the show.
Speaker 1: I think he taught in Africa and played soccer, and
Speaker 1: I feel like he played for the Galaxy latering the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it over. I think happened showing
Speaker 2: off a little stuff there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, So they were having a good time playing
Speaker 3: in the pool, and Alison's sitting poolside talking with Ronda
Speaker 3: and Jane, and Alison is observing that Billy actually kind
Speaker 3: of looks like he's great at this and it's the
Speaker 3: first time she sees him as acting like an actual adult.
Speaker 3: And Alison tells Ronda and Jane that she loves kids
Speaker 3: but doesn't think she could be ever ready to be
Speaker 3: a mom. Ronda sort of agrees, and Jane says that
Speaker 3: no one ever feels like they're ready, but that you'd
Speaker 3: be surprised.
Speaker 2: Jane is pregnant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that now, right, Yeah, she's the one
Speaker 4: now that is experienced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she says, I wasn't exactly feeling like I was ready,
Speaker 3: but then all of a sudden, you know.
Speaker 2: She's so young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be surprised how it she changed, she says.
Speaker 3: And so Billy and Allison are watching Martin's sleep later.
Speaker 3: He's exhausted after his big day. He's sleeping peacefully and
Speaker 3: they're they both think it's so sweet watching him sleep,
Speaker 3: and then there's a knock of the door. It's Dawn
Speaker 3: returning after her gig, which.
Speaker 1: Really, I think messes with Allison's little happy family fantasy.
Speaker 1: I have going. I don't think I'm very happy to
Speaker 1: see her.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think they had like this long, great day together,
Speaker 3: and like, even without speaking of it, they both are
Speaker 3: sort of feeling like.
Speaker 1: Wow, this woman comes and takes our child child.
Speaker 2: Imagine that right out of her fantasy.
Speaker 3: But so Don is as grateful as she is for
Speaker 3: the babysitting help. She thanks Billy for making all the
Speaker 3: difference because it was a big boost to her career
Speaker 3: by being able to do the show. And thanks for
Speaker 3: loaning me the money to fix my.
Speaker 2: Car, she says, three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: So not only is Alison jealous of this woman, but
Speaker 3: now she's furious to learn that Billy has lied about
Speaker 3: what the money was for.
Speaker 2: And and those big blue eyes are like, you lied.
Speaker 1: They're full of rage, they're.
Speaker 2: Full of.
Speaker 4: Talk about having a fantasy burst. Well, the mother walks
Speaker 4: in with his fantasy job, and then.
Speaker 2: Your friend, you're you know, the guy has lied to you.
Speaker 2: So it's like poof back to reality.
Speaker 3: And they kissed goodbye at the door, like Don leaves,
Speaker 3: and they kiss right in front of Alison, and then
Speaker 3: she's like just slapping the face and then he says, well,
Speaker 3: I was you know, yes, yes, you were doing something
Speaker 3: unselfish and responsible with the money, but it was at
Speaker 3: my expense.
Speaker 1: That was a good line. I thought, at my expense,
Speaker 1: that's a great way to say your line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and where does he say, imagine it in my shoes?
Speaker 4: Imagine it from my point of view?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's after after she leaves, right.
Speaker 4: Imagine if from my point I'm like, no, why you
Speaker 4: acted it out?
Speaker 3: So yeah, after stupid, I can't imagine it.
Speaker 1: I've learned that from years of couples therapy.
Speaker 3: I have imagined it, and it's dumb. So yeah, after
Speaker 3: Don leaves, Allison says, Billy, you do this every time,
Speaker 3: jumping headfirst into a relationship without a moment's thought. And
Speaker 3: Billy says, unlike you, who you know, you withhold all
Speaker 3: all your feelings. And Allison accuses Billy of play acting
Speaker 3: as an adult living in a dream world because it
Speaker 3: can barely take care of himself. But Billy apologizes about
Speaker 3: the money, says we'll pay her back. Allison says she
Speaker 3: thinks she could never trust him again. So it ends
Speaker 3: on a very bad feeling between the two.
Speaker 1: My mother said that to me one time when I
Speaker 1: ate half an ice cream sandwich and light about it,
Speaker 1: what'd she say? She can never trust you again. She
Speaker 1: may have been a slight overreaction.
Speaker 3: It might be her favorite food.
Speaker 1: Ever, Hence I'd like to ask her if she's held
Speaker 1: true to that.
Speaker 3: Are you over right yet?
Speaker 1: Mom?
Speaker 4: I can never trust clearly, I'm not because you said
Speaker 4: you didn't need any of it.
Speaker 1: This is stupid. I was I ate half of it,
Speaker 1: like if I'd taken all of it, you ate half
Speaker 1: of it, put the other half back and situated. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, sending more on their tolf ice cream.
Speaker 3: God, oh boy, the things we remember lying, yeah, gracious.
Speaker 3: So then the next day, Bill it's a Dawn's apartment
Speaker 3: and he's walking down the hall overhearing shouting inside, so
Speaker 3: he barges in to discover the ex husband is there,
Speaker 3: and the ex husband and Donn are screaming at each other.
Speaker 3: Billy tries to get in the middle of it, says,
Speaker 3: you know, I care more about her than you ever did.
Speaker 3: He shoves the guy. When the guy makes a comment,
Speaker 3: boll like, what do you look Martin?
Speaker 1: Our kid?
Speaker 3: Watch you guys again.
Speaker 1: He's known her for all of three and a half years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so that doesn't go well. The X
Speaker 3: leaves saying he'll be back at noon to pick up
Speaker 3: his kid. But after he Don is upset and he's
Speaker 3: upset with Billy, like, get the heck out of the
Speaker 3: situation where you don't belong, And.
Speaker 2: That was time.
Speaker 3: We find out that Martin has seen and her the
Speaker 3: whole thing. So who gives you the right to interfere,
Speaker 3: she says to Billy, and Billy says he just wanted
Speaker 3: to help.
Speaker 1: Try it.
Speaker 3: Here's where it is. Try and understand how I feel,
Speaker 3: He says it to Don, try and understand how I feel.
Speaker 3: But Don reminds him here that you're a twenty three
Speaker 3: year old Cabby who is not ready to take on
Speaker 3: responsibilities that my life comes with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought that was That's the crux
Speaker 2: of the whole show is like you're in a fantasy.
Speaker 4: You want to swoop in and be my savior. You
Speaker 4: gave me the three hundred dollars, but it's a fantasy.
Speaker 4: And I you really see in this scene where she's like,
Speaker 4: you know, once it ends, once you leave, I still
Speaker 4: have this kid, I still have this ex husband, I
Speaker 4: still have to get child support. I have to support everything,
Speaker 4: and it's like real life. Yeah, and you get to
Speaker 4: see how naive he was, even though he's well intended.
Speaker 4: I think he's just trying to be a grown up,
Speaker 4: you know, and trying to be responsible.
Speaker 2: And I'm with Billy, I'm like, yeah, you're right, I'm
Speaker 2: out take it.
Speaker 3: You could have the kid and the X and all that,
Speaker 3: except he's not. He's not thinking that. She's saying, here,
Speaker 3: here's your money, going to pay back the money, and
Speaker 3: you know, she tells how things are not always black
Speaker 3: and white and you should just take this money and
Speaker 3: you should go. So she asks him to go. Then
Speaker 3: back with Sandy, who's storming down to Jane and Michael's
Speaker 3: apartment the next morning because her dress class, or maybe
Speaker 3: that night, because her dress closet is broken. She has
Speaker 3: a dress closet and her heart.
Speaker 1: I have enough dresses to fill a closet.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I hope you have a dress closet, but.
Speaker 1: Like, I didn't know you could even have one.
Speaker 3: I don't remember Melrose's place having dress clauses, only Sandy's apartment.
Speaker 2: I heard of that term ever in my life. No
Speaker 2: dress clause.
Speaker 3: That's where she keeps her dresses in her special closet
Speaker 3: that locks. I guess from the inside.
Speaker 2: They are like, you know, I don't know fancy dresses
Speaker 2: are in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Jane suggests that maybe Jake could help her
Speaker 3: get fix the door and get her dressed closet and locked.
Speaker 3: Since Michael is at the hospital, Jeeke is in the
Speaker 3: courtyard fixing his motorcycle, and I guess decides to help
Speaker 3: her because we cut inside the apartment where he's messing
Speaker 3: around with the lock. Something weird happens where he's trying
Speaker 3: to get it unstuck, and he goes flying across the
Speaker 3: room and he hurts himself and he lands on the ground.
Speaker 3: So like their banter was really angry with each other
Speaker 3: while he's trying to fix the door, but the minute
Speaker 3: he falls sexual, Yes, angry as all.
Speaker 2: The innuendos yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And wait, is it an on TNDRA or an innuendo?
Speaker 3: I think there's both.
Speaker 2: Is there both in there? Like one screw yeah, and
Speaker 2: you're on your own or something one. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I can't but it was these Melrose things. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if those are ons.
Speaker 3: But the innuendo is there as well. So then he
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they start laughing when he falls,
Speaker 3: and they sort of like change their tune and they're
Speaker 3: nice to each other again, and they both admit that
Speaker 3: maybe they should just stick to, you know, enjoying the
Speaker 3: friendship that they have. Sandy admits that she doesn't actually
Speaker 3: have a hot date that night, she just needed address
Speaker 3: because she's going to the movies with Ronda, and all
Speaker 3: is suddenly right between Jake and Sandy. All he needed
Speaker 3: was a good like what you know fall.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if we sort of tied this
Speaker 1: up in the boat or if it starts again in
Speaker 1: the next episode.
Speaker 3: This is definitely ties up in this episode like for today,
Speaker 3: quick and wrap up of that.
Speaker 4: So this is episode nine, yes, no, yeah, okay, a
Speaker 4: few more episodes until someone else comes to town.
Speaker 3: I know we're more than halfway to Daphney people.
Speaker 2: More than half the blonde was there. I think she
Speaker 2: was already gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she left at thirteen. I think yeah,
Speaker 1: And you came at nineteen, almost halfway to.
Speaker 3: Lara, almost halfway to Laura.
Speaker 4: I could say you could say goodbye to the Brady
Speaker 4: Bunch version of Melroe's place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are gonna get way different soon. So then
Speaker 3: Billy comes home with the money for Allison again. He
Speaker 3: apologizes to her for screwing things up and he doesn't
Speaker 3: want her to stop trusting him. She says that she
Speaker 3: understands he was just trying to be noble, but he
Speaker 3: just wasn't being realistic. He said he was trying to
Speaker 3: be needed, not just to be cared for, like he
Speaker 3: feels like he's always being cared for by others. He
Speaker 3: liked being needed, and he actually wants to talk to
Speaker 3: Dawn again. So like, as much as things seem to
Speaker 3: be wrapped up with Billy and Allison, he still wants
Speaker 3: to go back and try again with Don.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think this is right, you guys.
Speaker 4: I think it's honest of him to say I just
Speaker 4: wanted to be needed. He created this whole scenario so
Speaker 4: he could insert himself to feel needed.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the boy to do if you're.
Speaker 4: Not that needed, you're going to create the situation. I
Speaker 4: think it's honest of him to say that.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's totally honest.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm just like, no that she asked him
Speaker 3: to leave, Like, you should just take this money and
Speaker 3: you should just go right, And so he goes back
Speaker 3: to Alison. Instead of saying, hey, I can take a hint.
Speaker 3: Even though I liked being needed, she doesn't want me there, right,
Speaker 3: He can't take that. He's like, you know, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go see her again tonight, right, So he just
Speaker 3: tries one more time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I need her to need me, So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need to go over there to get her
Speaker 4: to say I need you.
Speaker 2: But she's not gonna say, let's see what happens, So
Speaker 2: off he goes.
Speaker 3: He goes back to Dawn's stand up show, and this
Speaker 3: time her whole set is about divorce and relationships and
Speaker 3: falling for the wrong guys, all these guys who are
Speaker 3: living out their superhero fantasies. And Billy's listening and he's
Speaker 3: realizing as he's listening to what she's saying that she
Speaker 3: doesn't want to be rescued. She actually wants commitment. Billy's
Speaker 3: face is starting to say, maybe he's not so sure
Speaker 3: he can be that guy commitment man.
Speaker 4: He is also feeling mocked and like she specifically is
Speaker 4: writing this material about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure looks like it.
Speaker 2: It's that's humiliating. Yeah right, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Does look But he meets her at the bar after
Speaker 3: the set and he tries once more, and don says,
Speaker 3: you know, we should just leave it alone. And he says,
Speaker 3: but I you know, I want to I get it,
Speaker 3: but I do want to continue spending time with you.
Speaker 3: And she says, I'm the one who's not ready and
Speaker 3: I just need to make it on my own and
Speaker 3: with all the things in my life, there's just no
Speaker 3: room for you, Billy, she says. So Billy finally takes
Speaker 3: a hint, and he says, okay, but can I say
Speaker 3: buy to Martin who's the kid? And she says she says, no,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: He tells you, for either of you, He's going to
Speaker 2: start it back up, get.
Speaker 3: The hook, he tells her. Then can you just tell
Speaker 3: Martin that I said Austill la Vista Baby, Martin will understand.
Speaker 1: Oh that is cute.
Speaker 3: So the next morning, Billy's at home reading the paper
Speaker 3: at the apartment. He's dreaming about all the places he's
Speaker 3: never traveled and realizing that freedom is great. Maybe he
Speaker 3: will just go to all these great places and yeah's young,
Speaker 3: no ties to anyone, and he also says that having
Speaker 3: a family was great for a second, if only for
Speaker 3: a second, and it's something to look forward to someday.
Speaker 3: And then the flirty flirty between Billy and ellis the
Speaker 3: right person, a flirty conversation about who might that be with,
Speaker 3: and Alison leaves with a super flirty look to him
Speaker 3: and says, huh, you never know. I'm right in front
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: You ding dong.
Speaker 3: Pretty sure that's what that looks said. So, yeah, we
Speaker 3: have another episode where things are neatly wrapped up, and
Speaker 3: like you said, it's not going to be that way
Speaker 3: pretty soon. The whole tone of the show is going
Speaker 3: to change, which we know.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's not always wrapped up. I feel
Speaker 2: like these are morality place a little bit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I got lesson learned.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Like you have the Jake and the Sandy,
Speaker 4: these kind of sexualized characters trying to just be buds
Speaker 4: and go to a movie and not hop in the sack,
Speaker 4: and then you have these two having their whole chance
Speaker 4: to have this fantasy family going to the amusement park
Speaker 4: and everything, and I just feel like this is a
Speaker 4: whole Melrose Place that I never knew existed exactly. It's
Speaker 4: like these morality plays, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like lessons learned, Yeah, and like teaching.
Speaker 3: It's so funny for Daphne I to watch it, so
Speaker 3: not there, and then I'm.
Speaker 4: Cut to her on the boat and she's being like
Speaker 4: smacked around and that baby.
Speaker 3: Is such a different chobe. But like they're all like
Speaker 3: teaching each other, Like Alison is really teaching Billy you
Speaker 3: you know, you need to learn this, and this is
Speaker 3: a perfect example of this. And then by the end
Speaker 3: of the episode he's sort of learning it or whatever,
Speaker 3: like she.
Speaker 2: Was right, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's just such an interesting difference between where it's going.
Speaker 3: Jake so earnestly trying to be like a guy who
Speaker 3: knows how to be friends with a girl I really
Speaker 3: want to try, Yeah, Michael trying to help them anyway.
Speaker 3: So we had a kiss count in this one. There
Speaker 3: were a couple of kisses, a couple, yeah, a couple
Speaker 3: of new characters, a couple old characters, a couple.
Speaker 1: Of shirtless in the pool, but not we're shifting away
Speaker 1: from that. It's not like so it's interesting because it
Speaker 1: started with kissing that it sort of came off and
Speaker 1: then pretty soon it's going to be just a free
Speaker 1: for all. It's just like people making out.
Speaker 3: Well, I know, I threatened to make like a chart,
Speaker 3: like I think I'm gonna do it to like just
Speaker 3: keep track. It's almost like a family tree, like like
Speaker 3: I think I need to make a chart, like before
Speaker 3: it's too late and keep track like.
Speaker 2: Of who kissed Who?
Speaker 3: You won't be able to keep I better start now,
Speaker 3: if I better start the chart.
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to answer a couple of fan questions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some questions.
Speaker 2: That's so fun.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of questions we have to The first
Speaker 4: one is how long did it take for an episode
Speaker 4: to be filmed and then actually air? It was seven
Speaker 4: days to film, Okay, So then shows were traditionally seven
Speaker 4: or eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were.
Speaker 2: Some were seven and some were eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were seven. And when in the first season
Speaker 1: before we did double ups, it was right on our
Speaker 1: tail because they found out reruns didn't do well, so
Speaker 1: we would be shooting to finish to get it out
Speaker 1: almost immediately.
Speaker 3: They'd have a few weeks of post production, like yeah,
Speaker 3: so we would.
Speaker 1: Start in August and I think it would start on
Speaker 1: the air in September October, so we'd be a few
Speaker 1: episodes ahead, and then when it caught up with us,
Speaker 1: we'd do double ups and get all those episodes in
Speaker 1: the camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So what do you think, was it about four weeks
Speaker 3: of post production after we'd finished shooting, they had about
Speaker 3: three to four weeks before it would be on the air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, until except those times when it was getting really
Speaker 1: super tight. Yeah, and it turned around. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: when the show started to do really well. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they just kept adding in the first season. Remember we're
Speaker 1: supposed to do twenty six. Then they added and added
Speaker 1: and added to we got to thirty three. We did
Speaker 1: it full twelve months in a row the first season.
Speaker 4: I didn't know until saying this, it's kind of faint
Speaker 4: bells are being wrong here of it not doing well
Speaker 4: in reruns.
Speaker 2: People just wanted fresh, fresh, fresh, story fresh. What's happening now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wonder if if it's a certain
Speaker 4: kind of show that doesn't do well in reruns cereals.
Speaker 1: So once we started, like I was thinking, you don't
Speaker 1: have scenes from the last episode because they didn't really
Speaker 1: connect at this point, right, But eventually you have to
Speaker 1: have the scene so that you can tell them what happens,
Speaker 1: so they're up to date because it started moving through
Speaker 1: the story so fast by the end of the first season.
Speaker 3: And also like, if we're shooting a seven day shooting schedule,
Speaker 3: Let's say you start on a Monday, so you finish
Speaker 3: it on the following Tuesday for seven days, and you
Speaker 3: immediately start on Wednesday on the next episode, So it
Speaker 3: just keeps rolling back to back to back, and Wednesday
Speaker 3: is day one of the seven days of the next episode.
Speaker 3: So it was just like this constant Yeah, seven.
Speaker 1: Work days, right, right, seven workdays, not like yeah, Monday
Speaker 1: to Sunday.
Speaker 2: It is, and there was Friday.
Speaker 3: There was never a day in between, Like it's not like, okay,
Speaker 3: we finished that episode, take a day and breathe. No,
Speaker 3: it was like, well, right, like.
Speaker 4: You're shooting the last scenes that need to be shot
Speaker 4: for that episode, and then you're getting this script in
Speaker 4: the makeup of being your trailer hoot off the presses.
Speaker 1: Remember from so remember going out to see your changes
Speaker 1: in the morning. Get yeah, change in blue pages. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've actually delivered papers.
Speaker 4: The other question here is did you have extended time
Speaker 4: off or did you work twelve months of the year. Well,
Speaker 4: I remember, well, we didn't work twelve so I remember,
Speaker 4: I don't remember working twelve.
Speaker 1: I remember you came in at fourteen. Correct, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you didn't work twelve months because you came in later.
Speaker 1: But we those of us are there from day one,
Speaker 1: work twelve months in row. The first season.
Speaker 4: Well, I came in halfway through the first season, right fifteen.
Speaker 4: So I guess my question is Courtney, twelve months means
Speaker 4: you didn't have time off.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 4: I was going to say we had two weeks off
Speaker 4: for Christmas. You had to have Christmas vacation off, and
Speaker 4: then you have to have usually a hiatus, and ours
Speaker 4: was short.
Speaker 1: The first season. We didn't have a hiatus because we
Speaker 1: did thirty three episodes in a row. So normally your
Speaker 1: your ten and a half month season is twenty four
Speaker 1: or twenty six episodes. But because then we added more,
Speaker 1: we went from I think July to July. We would
Speaker 1: get I remember Loan and Jefferson, we would date, announce
Speaker 1: more shows, they get good news, and she and I
Speaker 1: would both be fining like she'd be. We'd both go
Speaker 1: out because we were so bone tired because fourteen to
Speaker 1: sixteen hours a day for twelve months in a row,
Speaker 1: learning like we were so beaten up. But then normally
Speaker 1: you get two and a half months, so you end
Speaker 1: in okay.
Speaker 2: But what I'm talking about is we didn't have two
Speaker 2: and a half months. We had a few weeks. But
Speaker 2: everyone has to have Christmas vacation two weeks right at least.
Speaker 3: But it sounds like between seasons that first year when
Speaker 3: they realized, yeah they needed to get on get on
Speaker 3: the air.
Speaker 4: Someone having twenty two episodes, they would finish in let's
Speaker 4: say March or April, and then you wouldn't shoot again
Speaker 4: till summer.
Speaker 2: But we never had that.
Speaker 1: Well, the next year we did double ups. We'd have
Speaker 1: two months, we had May and June off. We'd go
Speaker 1: back a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I remember shooting a couple of miniseries during
Speaker 4: that and I just using up eating at my hiatus.
Speaker 2: So was it two months we had off?
Speaker 1: I remember being six to eight weeks.
Speaker 3: It felt like a really brief time. I had to
Speaker 3: schedule a knee surgery in there and get recovered, and
Speaker 3: it was like it just felt like a really small window.
Speaker 3: And even you know for the crew too, like they
Speaker 3: have that those windows too. It's like everybody needs to
Speaker 3: schedule their important stuff for like their family, the right.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it definitely like.
Speaker 1: Stuff like I remember I say I'm not working. Then
Speaker 1: I had a month off and I got rested. So
Speaker 1: then I did a TV movie and then it was
Speaker 1: right back to work, and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that I should have just rested. But yeah, you feel like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure I can do that, and then it's just boom
Speaker 1: boom boom.
Speaker 4: But we were young and we were more inter do
Speaker 4: that's for sure. Yeah, so did you have So the
Speaker 4: answer to that is we did not have extended time off.
Speaker 4: We working a lot around the clock. Once again, Aaron
Speaker 4: Spelling started doing double ups. Weren't we the first show.
Speaker 2: He ever did that?
Speaker 1: Way, They thought this will never work. It's a ridiculous thing.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna do. It's not We're all sort of
Speaker 1: rolling rise and laughing. And then it worked well enough
Speaker 1: that for it worked for them. But I will say
Speaker 1: this though, like over time the cast got to be
Speaker 1: so big that you didn't work every day. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: you never knew your schedule that far in advance, But
Speaker 1: and our ads did a great job of keeping it
Speaker 1: rarely changed. Yeah, like once it worked, you knew you'd
Speaker 1: have two days off here and there, which made a
Speaker 1: huge difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an incredible puzzle to try to get that
Speaker 3: all together.
Speaker 1: They especially double ups.
Speaker 4: That was insane, especially if an actor had to be
Speaker 4: from a location let's say downtown and that's some empty
Speaker 4: hospital and then up an Oxnard in one day.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, yeah, Laura was doing Oxnard to Santa
Speaker 1: Clarita for one episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: They try not to have sometimes it's just impossible not
Speaker 3: to far locations. So well, those were the days we
Speaker 3: were young, the days super fun.
Speaker 1: Young actors now love to have thirty three episodes of
Speaker 1: anything they do, like anybody, any age, I would.
Speaker 3: Love it, as long as it's an ensemble where you
Speaker 3: can share the workload.
Speaker 1: And yeah again, and as we were so lucky because
Speaker 1: we got along and it was a big group. We
Speaker 1: really were lucky. It's fun to watch because I do.
Speaker 1: I have such warm feelings about that time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Same, And I feel like my you said that your
Speaker 3: favorite thing about doing a TV show is like all
Speaker 3: the guest stars and stuff. My favorite thing is the
Speaker 3: family that is built with like the regular.
Speaker 1: The cast what I met that That was my answer
Speaker 1: to I mean, it was my answer to, I can
Speaker 1: have We can have more.
Speaker 3: Than one favorite.
Speaker 4: I love the fact of having a place to go,
Speaker 4: the set and the crew, you know, because I come
Speaker 4: from a very small family and we were split up,
Speaker 4: you know, so like my mom looked back east, my
Speaker 4: sister was, I was all alone out here. My dad
Speaker 4: was up in San Francisco, and I just loved.
Speaker 2: Like having a place and routine left, the routine and.
Speaker 3: The family and the crew, and it was it was
Speaker 3: a special group that we all sort of like, I
Speaker 3: think it's magic when you go, oh, that was a
Speaker 3: great group of people. To have to spend that much
Speaker 3: time with these people, I'm really.
Speaker 1: Glad it is magic. You're super duper lucky. On that note,
Speaker 1: can't wait to get out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on that note, we love our fans questions too,
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Speaker 1: few episodes ahead of you, guys.
Speaker 3: So you have to ask us a little bit in
Speaker 3: advance if you have a specific question about a specific episode,
Speaker 3: But we love we'd love to get to them, and
Speaker 3: we love your questions, and we loved meeting everybody.
Speaker 2: At the con to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just been so fun all Bye guys, Bye
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