WEBVTT - Episode 36 - Walker Hayes (2-13-17) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.600 All right, welcome to episode thirty six The Bobby Cast. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:11.840 Here this episode with Walker Hayes. Hey boy, hey buddy. So, uh, 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:13.960 I guess now we spent a lot of time together 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.760 because we're on the road right now together and so 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.560 now I get to ask the questions that I don't 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.240 get to ask, like when we're just sitting down, because 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.400 the people want to know, like the real stuff, and 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.200 so they'll be stuff like some of the stuff I 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.760 wouldn't ask you, Like we're just hanging out before show. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.279 We'll be like, tell me your deepest fear a stuff like, yeah, 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.680 I don't know. Yeah, we just talked. Yeah, we're just talked. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.040 But we're always like getting ready for stuff too, because 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.800 you always got to want to play. Um. So here's 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.800 the the whole. What we'll do is we're kind of 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.640 encapsulate you and then we'll just work back. So right now, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.960 you just signed a record deal to Monument Records. What 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:57.520 does that mean? Uh? My goodness. Uh. I mean it 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.800 means I have another chance and having a career, you know, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.280 as an artist, and and that being my full time job. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.840 I mean, that's what it means to me. It might 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.200 sound simple, but that's exactly what it means. It means 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.120 I have a career, a chance at a career, a 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.479 long lasting career. Again, yes again, another shot for sure. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.720 So you talk about other shots and and just quickly 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.119 here because then I want to go all the way 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.640 back through it. But you've been on labeled before. Yeah, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.840 this is my third record deal. I've been in Nashville 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.960 twelve years and I will signed A Mercury got dropped. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.560 I was signed a Capital got dropped, and uh, you know, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.600 I didn't think I was gonna get another chance because 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.839 you don't really get that many um here. Most people 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.920 don't get to and so this is my third. The 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:53.160 thing about Walker too is that I we didn't know 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.840 each other and I we first moved here. It was 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.480 when my co host, Amy's mom was sick and I 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.320 got the song and say, hey, he's got any Walker. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:10.600 Here's what the song called Joy like Judy and so 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.200 we and I heard the songs, so we'd be choosing 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:21.000 to us to make up a boy. Namy's mom was 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.560 fighting cancer and we were doing a fundraiser and it 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.680 wasn't for her mom. It was just we were, you know, 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.359 doing a pimp and joy thing. That's how we met, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.799 and so he came and the song actually was downloaded 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.120 a bunch of times, you know that kind of thing happened, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.760 and then I didn't see it for a bit, and see, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.000 I don't see anybody. First of all, I didn't see 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.359 it for a bit. And then I'm on YouTube and 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.440 I do the thing on YouTuber. I find an artist 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.480 and it'll go also recommended, also recommended, also recommended. And 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.080 so until I find music and artists and I'll go 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.280 to SoundCloud, I'll do whatever, and I'm going through and 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:04.760 I see this song right here, and I was like, 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.679 that's Walker Age. I was like, you know, that's a 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:12.720 joy like dude together shaking, and I was like, I 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.680 don't know what this is, but it sounds like nothing else. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.639 I remember thinking that was like, it sounds like nothing else. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:24.959 Even that, so I played it on the regular the 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.120 next morning and I was like, I was like this, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.000 you just hear something that it strikes you oddly. And 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:32.360 then from there I just started to play all your 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.840 stuff on the air because I sit there and I'll 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.640 be like, oh, you think that's good. You got to 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:41.520 hear this one. I was like, my favorite song is 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:46.480 a comedian is too bad being fun. So all these songs, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.600 as I would hear them, I would be like, this 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.560 is unlike anything I'm hearing right now. I'm period. And 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.680 I would talk to my friends like Dan Smarting from 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.320 Dan and Shay, Him and I talk about music a lot, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.600 and I was like this, Walker, hey, stuff is like 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.960 next level, like cerebral type stuff. And I don't even 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.400 think anybody even notices it right now. And he's like, well, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.960 you know, we talked about it. Then you ended up 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.600 going on tour with them. Now you're on tour with me, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.920 and it's like, that's where we are right now. So 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.640 that's where that's where you are. That's what we're gonna 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.320 come back to. But now I want to go back 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.440 to the very beginning. So you talk about you came 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:19.960 to Nashville. You came to Nashville. How old were you 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:25.440 when you came to Nashville was twenty let's see seven? Four? 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.240 You go to school and study music. I went to 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.200 college and I did eventually change my major to piano. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.880 I graduated with a degree in music with an emphasis 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.080 on piano. You're a good piano player, are you? Are 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.040 you a piano player? Yeah? I sit down at the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.279 piano and people be like, oh, that guy could play piano. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.200 I could, Um, you know I could. I could play 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.760 with the songs, my songs, you know, I could play 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.880 for myself. I had to do a lot of classical stuff, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.760 you know, obviously to graduate. But when I moved to Nashville, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.719 are you standing backing a little bit? Like like a 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.919 golfer would be like, I'm not that good and he go, no, No, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.280 I mean honestly, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.760 play piano until college and I met you know, A 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.039 met a professor and I said, can I finish this 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.880 on time? So I got pretty proficient, you know, while 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.000 I was in college. It's a lot of muscle memory 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.680 and a lot of cool stuff I learned. But now 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.760 I could just cord around kind of like I'm as 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.320 good at piano as I am a guitar. So songs 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.320 you knew the guitar then too, the right, Yeah, well 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.160 you musical through like elementary school, high school. You're growing up. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.479 My wife and I we actually met in a in 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.640 a school play, you know, So I did that kind 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.680 of stuff school theater and singing choirs and things like that. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.720 Music really, um, my dad was a music minister before 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.479 he started selling real estate in Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.680 and so uh yeah, I mean he kind of gave 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.400 me that music bug. I didn't really chase it as 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.600 like a dream, you know, a job or anything like that. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.000 Then definitely didn't even do that. Out of college. I 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.320 went to kind of go work for him. So when 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:00.880 you finished schoo well you have to work for your dad, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.599 was yeah. So I finished school, got my real estate license, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.360 and I got engaged to Lanny. You know, we've been 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.719 dating on and off for a bazillion years. And uh, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.280 that was my plan. That was my answer to her 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.560 her dad, you know, what are you gonna do? And 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.600 it was worked for my dad. And uh, my dad 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.360 encouraged me to go play at a bar. It's called 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.120 Mobile Yacht Club off at Dolphin Island Parkway in Mobile, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.080 and he kept encouraging me to do that. He thought 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.200 it was funny and kind of how I would mimic people. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.559 I knew like a couple of songs on the guitar 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.800 and would play around at the house. And he wanted 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.200 me to do it, and I didn't want to do 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.760 because I had stage fright that scared me to death, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.080 you know, getting up in front of people and singing. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.040 And uh, finally I said, Dad, I'll do this if 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.680 you'll leave me alone you know about it, and stop 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.920 asking me to do it. And I went up there 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.120 on a Friday night, sang some songs and pretty much 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.839 changed changed my mind about life. 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So you you decided we're moving 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.120 to Nashville just from one night of playing in front 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.400 of people. Yeah, it was pretty wild. I mean I 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.599 played at such a great time called Laney. So I 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.920 don't want to move to Nashville to sing that was it. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.440 I want to go. Uh. You know, I think she 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.160 was pretty adventurous. You know at the time we were 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.160 kids excited about you know, getting out of town. Um, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.080 she was with it. I mean, oddly enough, she there 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.079 was no second guessing on her part. She was ready 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.920 to go. And so what what was your style back then? 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.280 So my style back then? I remember two songs that 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.880 I played. One was sitting on the dock of the 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.439 bay and then uh didn't doubIe Gray Drift Away. Yeah, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.200 drift and I guess Drift Away And uh, I only 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.240 played like five songs. I just played him over and 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.600 over and um so yeah, I mean I was just 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.240 gonna him up and singing. You know, moved to Nashville 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.760 trying to be a rock star. Do you think you're 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.440 gonna make it? Yeah? I did. I was dumb enough 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.880 to to be like, yeah, I'm gonna go you know 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.560 and figure this out, be famous. I mean I knew nobody. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.959 We had a great time picking out our apartment, um 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.920 and stuff like that. Honestly, meeting with their parents, they 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.440 were really frightened and just thought I was nuts. You know, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.880 this was not This was on such a whim and 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.120 the security that I had, you know, in Mobile made 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.600 a lot more sense to them. And um so yeah, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.920 I mean, man, we just found an apartment, got married, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.200 and drove up here. So you move here? And what 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.840 does one do when you don't know anybody in a 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.680 town like Nashville and you want to make music? Like, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.679 what's the first step? You go outside? And man, I mean, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.480 as cliche as it sounds, the absolute first thing I 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.679 did was go sign up for an open mic night 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.520 at the Bluebird. Uh. I was. I don't remember exactly 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.040 what number I chose, you know, to get selected that night. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.880 But so you played the first night you went. I 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.960 came on a Monday night, stood in line, got selected. 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.240 Uh they they were about to call my name, but 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.120 I realized that everybody in there was playing songs that 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.920 they had written, and I showed up to play cover. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.559 So we left and then I came back the next 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.160 Monday with a couple of songs that I wrote that 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.959 week and then performed. And it was the same rush. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.000 You know. So the first time you went, you end 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.920 up not playing. Well, I check it out. I wasn't 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.280 about to get up and play that. I was gonna 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.599 play drift Away. There's a little everybody give me the 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.280 beat boy? Free up? Did you write that little something? 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.520 I wrote? So the first time, you don't do it. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.240 The second time you're going, you do what you play? 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.960 What song you remember? I do? I remember I played 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.320 a song about as short of a time period as 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.839 we have been married. I learned very quickly that when 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.000 you bring up the in laws that your significant other 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.640 gets really pissed, and so I wrote a song about that, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.600 and it was kind of a joke, you know, a 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.000 funny song and uh, I'm under the title of it, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.280 and I played too, and I just remember the crowd reacting. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.920 You know, they laughed, they had a great time. I mean, 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.280 they went nuts. It's a real supportive crowd at the 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.120 blue Bergs. They're there to hear the writer performing their songs, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.120 so they went nuts. I mean, it wasn't not I 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.480 didn't like get a deal or anything quick. You know, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.920 did you feel like after that night though, that you 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.680 had submitted a little more in your head, like I 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.600 can do this. Uh? I didn't really think about whether 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.880 I could or not. I just did, you know what 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.440 I'm saying. And I also it was like a drug. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:37.440 I mean I honestly, but since then, I haven't stopped 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.360 writing songs. It's just I fell in love with that, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:46.080 that conceiving the idea, putting it together, playing it for somebody, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.960 getting their reaction, moving on to the next one. You know, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.640 my favorite song is always the one I'm working on 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.920 right now, And that's kind of how I've been since then. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.640 It just it pretty much consumes my life and has 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.000 since then. So how long until you get and I'm 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.079 assuming you're getting in a publishing deal first, which is 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.880 what happened to get They pay you to write songs? 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.160 How long did it take from you playing that bluebird 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.800 until you getting a published and deal? So I had 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.440 a I had a day job. I booked motivational speakers 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.559 at Premier Speakers Bureau, uh in Franklin. Like what motivational 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.080 speakers ran through in Franklin. A lot of right wing conservatives, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.560 old Steelers player Rocky Blyer, a couple of authors, um, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:29.080 Oliver North there, Sean Hannity. We booked them. Uh some 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:34.480 of those were exclusive. Um sorry again, trying to get 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.840 rid of that tick. But yeah, just I booked them 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.920 and uh lost, actually lost my job in a year, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.960 and then I got a pub deal. So it took 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.400 me a year and a couple of months to secure 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.800 a pub deal. So in that year, you're just writing 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.080 and singing songs to people are going, hey, check it out. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.600 I know in that year I was working, you know 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.240 that was none, none to five. My clientele was West 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.439 Coast event planners, so I got to show up a 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.280 little bit later and stay a little longer. But I 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.800 was writing songs while I was working, you know, on 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.000 my computer, just loading it up and yeah, I mean 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.840 playing open mic nights anybody could I could ever get 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.560 my songs in front of Obviously I was trying to 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.319 do that playing all the local um you know songwriter 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.960 nights that I could and um yeah, I wasn't really 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.800 comparing myself to other people. I just loved, like I said, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.440 I loved, loved, loved writing, I mean obsessed with writing. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.120 So you're right, and you start to get paid to write, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:37.160 and what did you What were your first cut? Shoot? Man, 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.880 I mean my my first pub deal actually got me 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.640 a record deal first. I mean I didn't get a cut. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.920 So your pub deal got your record deal first? Is 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.240 this the Keith Urban Demo story? No, that's that's capital. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.560 That's the second deal. The first pub deal I ever 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.080 got was from a neighbor heard me messing around on 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.680 the porch. He said, man, I really like what you do. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.800 I'm gonna take you into douce you to two or 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.560 three people. He brought me into town. I met two 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.600 big time producers where Franklin and Franklin. Here's your playing 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.320 on your porch, here's me on the porch. Yeah. He's like, dude, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.600 I really love your voice. Did you did you write that? 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.560 I'm like, yeah, you want to hear some more. And 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.680 though I wrote a song about his kid and whose 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.760 name is Hogan, which that was a business move right there. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.360 I was like, dude, if I write song by his 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 kids and really, you know, hog me up. So he 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.920 takes me into town, introduced me to to introduced me 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.680 to Scott Hendricks, David Malloy and a guy named Christie 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.040 de Napoli, and uh, Christie wanted to sign me to 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.880 a pub deal. The other two wanted to maybe cut 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.160 some sides and do the shoppy thingy and I wasn't 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.520 really ready for that. I just wanted to write, you know, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.080 really bad. I wanted to get paid to write songs. Uh. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.120 And at that time I only had one kid, so 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.720 I didn't have to make that much money. Um. And 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.040 so anyway, Christie sigh me under a guy named Buddy 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.160 Killing who's gone now but great first publisher to have 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.440 learned a lot from that guy. And Alison Jones. I 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.080 know this is industry, but signed me at Mercury and 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.880 so you get a publishing deal and a record deal 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.320 basically at the same time. Well, I got a pub 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.440 deal and then we we worked on it, you know, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.920 and he had cut some sides there and then they 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.360 shot me and then got me, got me my first 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.360 record development deal. So when you get signed to a 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.920 development deal, what do they start doing with you? What 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.120 do they develop? So the development deal basically got me 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.120 James Stroud, great producer. He cut some sides on me. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.920 So what we did is just accumulate songs, kept writing 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.600 for a little while, Uh, chose the best ones, went 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.960 in the studio, caught him with an excellent band. So 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.560 that was my first experience with that, you know, And 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.280 of course we came home with five songs. I thought 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.960 I was gonna be Garth Brooks. I sounded like him. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.080 It sounded better than NA. I was not Garth Brooks. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.680 I I had some great stuff, you know, looking back, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.000 I think some of those sides were good. But uh, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.560 there was a falling out within the company and it 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.040 wasn't long until I was off that that labeled me. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.239 That that deal expired pretty quick. So you're on, did 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.920 you put a record on? I didn't. I cut five sides, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:16.120 literally celebrated the cutting my first five songs. You cut 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.960 five songs, I'm going I were beside myself and stuff 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.800 sounds so great. Uh. We finished those in a December. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.320 I got a call in January saying that, uh, James 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.080 Stroud was gone from the label and that they he 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.480 had parted with co you know, head People, and Alison 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.720 Jones was leaving and I wasn't. I wasn't on the 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.680 label anymore. But the label stayed, label stayed. Yeah, you 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.240 remember put out a single? Iver put out a single? 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:47.040 Did you tell the publishing deal? You're still writing, still writing, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.959 and I still still still trying to get outside cuts. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.320 But did not get outside cuts? So you have to 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.720 go to another try to get how long until you 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.919 get signed to a different label. So after that it 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.520 took me to two years to get another label. This 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.919 when Urban, here's your This is when Autumn House, a 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.240 friend of mine, pitched the song for Keith Urban. Keith 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.159 Urban did not take the song, but the A and 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.960 R rep at Capital Autumn House said, I like this 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:22.120 guy singing, I like this writing style. You know who 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.320 is this kid? And uh, they said it's Walker Hayes, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.239 you know, And within a couple of months I had 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.440 a deal with Capital. A lot of my deals came 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.359 pretty quick. You know, deals are hard to get, but 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.600 my first two just kind of fell into my lap. 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.119 I mean if they just kind of came out of 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.760 nowhere for me. So you get a deal, you sort 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.960 of cut songs again or to use your old songs. Oh. Man, 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.399 when I got deal at Capital, I was writing. You 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.040 go through the producer search. You know, I was on 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.439 Capitol two years probably before we even decided, you know, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.840 to try a single. You've been signing for two years 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.000 before you put a song out. Yeah, yeah, I think 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.480 have been a Capital around that time. The frustrating Yeah, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.000 it was, yeah, it was. I mean we were looking 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.959 for the right producer. We tried some, we cut some. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.200 They just didn't didn't lower our minds, you know. So 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.760 then you have your first song. What's your first single? 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:20.840 My first single was pants all right? She can but 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.639 she can't run the shoes, she can't crack a will 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:36.800 like Indiana John, she can't snap, I can't take home 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.200 like that. I like that. Look you're giving me body 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.160 you write that I did. I wrote it for my wife. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.840 Gives the colders, makes the plans that woman's with. When 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.400 you hear the song, now, what do you think why? 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.240 I don't know, man, you know, I just hear it 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.840 and uh, it's doesn't sound you know it doesn't sound 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.320 that great. I just don't. I don't hear it like 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.439 I did then. And when when I heard it then, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.920 I just yeah, I just thought this is gonna be amazing, 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.439 and um, I don't know, I just hear it now 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.879 and it just the maybe I've gotten better at writing, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.760 you know, and I can just see the holes in there. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.840 But yeah, I created just like hearing myself on a 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:33.159 answering machine. Thanks. So how the single? Do? I have 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:38.320 no idea? The song was added heavily, you know, right 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.120 off the bat, and uh, you know, I saw success 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.239 coming my way quick and uh then it just hit 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.840 a wall and uh, some people were slow to pick 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:53.280 it up, and it went to thirty eight and uh eventually, um, 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.080 you know, Mike Dungan and Capital pulled it and they 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.280 decided to go with another one shortly after that. What 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.280 song was? After that one? They went with a song 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.600 called wild Wait for Summer and it did not do. 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.280 Um as well those pants. If you have two singles 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.639 that didn't work, did they drop you or do they go, 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.639 We're gonna work out some other stuff. So we we 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.640 chilled out for a long time. You know, I got 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.840 put on the back Burner and uh, I sat for 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.520 a long long time and man, honestly, just to give 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.520 Capital some credit, I mean they believed, I mean they 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.640 believed hardcore and and they stuck their neck out for me. Um, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.080 I didn't fully understand, you know, the need for the machine. 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.480 I didn't know how the bids really worked, you know 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.119 at that time. You know, there was a little bit 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.760 of arrogance. I'm not the most coachable human being on 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.520 the planet, and that kind of you know, shot me 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.840 in the foot back then. But yeah, we sat for 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.440 a long time. I continue to just right and write 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:00.600 and try to give them that one. You know that 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.200 they felt confident, you know, if you're gonna go three deep, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.960 that third one, I mean that's your hail Mary right there, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.920 you know, especially if the first two have flopped. Um. 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.240 So I fought and fought, you know, to write and 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.760 and to get that that song, the one, and man 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:23.360 just couldn't find it, and you know, eventually got dropped. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.200 And uh yeah, I mean that was that was the 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.080 beginning of some dark some dark times right there. So 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.720 you get dropped. Ever your second label, what year was that, 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:37.280 you know, Let's see, it's two thouns seventies six probably fourteen, 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.640 begetting fourteen. So you get dropped in two thousand and fourteen, 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:45.399 So what do you do well at that period? I 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.880 think I have four kids, so I'm still not I'm 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.359 still not a truly buried in final financial woes. But 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:55.600 I had a pub deal. You know, I'm still my 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.800 my publishers. That's one thing that's that I've always had 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.800 pub deal, publishers that believe that I can get outside cuts. 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:08.080 You know, So at that time I didn't I wouldn't 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.600 say I just shut the artist thing down, but I wrote, man, 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.520 I aimed and aimed to get outside cuts, you know, 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.919 I wanted outside country cuts. And one of these mainstream artists, 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.840 uh to to you know, I just knew somebody was 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.879 gonna cut one of my songs. We're gonna be huge. 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:28.760 Kind of solidified me a spot in that writer community. 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:33.160 And uh, I eventually did get a cut um from 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.120 Rodney Atkins. Uh he cut one of my songs called 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.800 Touching Feet, and uh it was you know, it was 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:45.119 a great motivation, you know, to keep on writing and 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.879 didn't end up being a single. But okay, what about 0:23:48.920 --> 0:24:02.080 this one? Kind of forgot about seat? That's rights too, right. Yeah, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:04.920 that was the So that was when he cut on 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.960 the next album, and that was ended up being his single. Yeah, 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:13.520 I think I killed his career. No, you didn't squeezing. 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.360 You didn't know. He man, Roddy, He's a great guy, 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.719 and he believed in some of my songs. And man, 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.639 even though you know, I had several of those types 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:24.919 of songs that that would get cut and maybe they 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.639 weren't the single the big the big Dog on the record. 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.040 But when you get those, man, it just kind of 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.600 tells you. It's like it's like a whisper saying, hey, 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.040 stick around, It's all right, you're here for a reason. 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.879 What about this here Cold Fort song? Dirty side, Dude, 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.560 I love this song. This is my jams. You're right it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:54.280 he featured me time. But if you side, I love 0:24:54.359 --> 0:25:06.720 a good side side you're looking for side I loved. 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.399 I didn't know you can dance like there, I got it. 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.879 So you wrote it together. Yeah, I'm super appreciated that 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.040 they featured me. I'm talking about the perfect girl. Man, 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.960 I'm gonna tell you that everywhere stopped looking at Magazine's 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.320 head on out. So you're writing, you're out, You don't 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.160 have artists, Jill right, what you probably still want even 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.760 you still want to be the artist, but you do 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.360 have you want to be the writer. You talking about 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.159 having dark times like your mind just like where did 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:48.200 I tell you what? The darkest period I ever experienced 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.800 here in Nashville was past these cuts. You know, you 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.560 get a couple of cuts, and I'm still I'm not 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.040 able to I mean, I'm barely supporting us, you know 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.920 what I'm saying. No, No, the money is not just 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.600 rolling in from from these types of cuts. I'm I'm 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.600 not having hit singles, which is kind of what you 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.479 gotta have, you know, nowadays to to to thrive as 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.080 a writer. You gonna have one every now and then. Um, 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.680 I'm loving what I'm doing. I mean, I feel like 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.080 I'm getting better and better and so much closer to 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.200 dial in it in, you know, with with what artists 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.800 need and what they want and getting those outside cuts. 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:27.400 But I'm playing at Pucket's boat house, and money gets 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.360 real tight. I'm talking seriously tight, and uh, I don't 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.680 really like to ask for help. And I had toyed with, 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.040 you know, getting kind of a second gig, and I 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.679 remember this this night I will never forget. I'm playing 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.560 Pucket's boat House, which, by the way, it's like a 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.720 restaurant and a stage for people. Um just so that 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.760 it's like a very famous Nashville Southern food restaurant and 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.320 they're a stage. And so what I what I was 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.440 doing is, you know, I didn't have artists deal, but 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.480 I want to keep performing. So that uh that the 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.240 Andy Marshall and Puckets so always so gracious to me 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.920 giving me a gig, and I'm playing for tips, and 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.199 what I would do is play an hour and then 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.520 host an open mic night just for the community. I 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.639 wanted to meet new writers and stuff and kind of 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.200 do what people did for me in my first couple 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:22.320 of years here. So one night, this guy comes and 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:27.080 his name is Nick Candre and uh, sweet sweet yuh 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.480 comes up, wants to play at the open mic night. 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.480 And he just thinks, you know, he's he's heard my 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.120 songs on Rodney, my stuff on Colt. He thinks I'm 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.960 like Elvis, you know, and he's just treat me like 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.640 it too, and he and he mentions at one point 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.920 in the night that he worked at the tire center 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.040 at Costco and I was looking for a job at 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.800 night so I could continue writing during the day. And 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.119 so it was just a humbling moment to kind of 0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.480 be like, Hey, while you're getting my autograph, do you 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.920 know any you know, is there any openings at Costco? 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.159 You know, are they looking for for people that stock 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.359 stuff overnight and stuff? And he hooked me up and 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.840 that's how I got a job at Costco. But it 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.760 was just I mean, I don't know if embarrassing is 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.399 the word, but you know, it was just it was 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.600 an interesting moment that he saw me as kind of 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.159 like an influence on him musically, and I was so happy, 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.119 you know, to meet me. And I was like, hey, uh, 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.359 I kind of need a job, you know, I need 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.320 some help. Can you can you hook me up? And 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:39.280 uh so that was that that was a low a 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.320 low point for me. Um, kind of having to ask 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.160 for help from that guy. Do you feel like he 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.600 learned from it and appreciate it even more afterwards? Just 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:54.880 through that experience with Costic experience, everything everything that is 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.040 connecting with people now is pretty much about that experience 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:03.320 in my life. So yes, um, it's been truly beneficial. Um. 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.360 I got a great perspective. Uh you know, what matters, 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.920 you know, what matter in life. That's kind of what 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.120 Leela Stars is about. You know, I did a lot 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:18.360 of I did a lot of I don't know what 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.080 you say, like not soul searching, but you know, we 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:28.760 uh interesting songs this guy and it's just a roof 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:39.120 from Yeah. Yeah, that song is about the thumb tacks 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.520 that she gave me to hold up the roof of 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.920 Mi Honda that I had at the time, and when 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.160 my roof was coming down, I lost it and I 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.640 was just crazy at that point in my life. I 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.960 was drinking a ton just to kind of cut the 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.360 edge off the heaviness, um and the burdens and stuff 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.560 that I I was kind of up against with wanting 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.800 to still chase my dream, kind of thinking I was 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.640 nuts um. Pretty much to let everybody looking at us 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.520 from the outside, I probably thought I was nuts too. Um. 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.520 You know, I had all the kids and I was 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.959 still trying to do that to take care of them 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.120 when I could have you know, done a lot of 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.960 other things and made a whole lot of sense, you know, 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.280 to take care of them. But yeah, lettle Stars is 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.960 about those stumb tacks that she she let me borrow 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.400 and I was really bummed and frustrated at the time. 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.600 The roof coming out in my car was one of 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.160 those moments in your life where you're looking up and 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.480 you're like, you gotta be kidding me, you know, like 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:43.600 I need one freaking more thing unit to carry right now. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.440 And uh, one morning, when I was about to clock 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.120 in at Costco, I looked up and I saw those 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:54.360 thumb tacks and it just reminded me. Well, first I 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.840 thought of her face and just her smile and how 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:02.000 much fun she had putting those up, and uh, she 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.160 just thought they're awesome, you know, they made the car 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.000 look incredible, And it was just an interesting perspective at 0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.640 that time to remember, Hey, I got healthy kids, I 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.600 do have a job, I have to you know what 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.080 I mean. And I'm still able to write. My wife 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.520 never was unhappy, you know, I was really the only one, 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.680 uh that was unhappy. Um. And so that was a 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.240 that was a great moment um and and got a 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.840 cool song out of it. So you were drinking a lot. 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.440 You don't drink it all now, so so you must 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.880 be drinking a lot. I have to stop, man, I was, 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.880 I mean, we want we want to talking about numbers. 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.720 I mean I was like, I mean, I was drinking 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.440 from I was drink at Costco. Um. You know, obviously 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.400 I was doing my work, um, working hard, but I 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.959 mean I was I was drinking on on breaks at Costco. 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.320 You know, I go to the parking lot, you know, 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.000 and do that leave, go do a show with the Bluebird. 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.560 You know, they were hiring me for shows. I was 0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.000 still able to get some work out of them. Um. 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.280 I drink before him, drinking after him, drink while I wrote, 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:17.720 drive home, drink because you're sad man. Uh yeah, I 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.280 think you know, I think I was just uh, I 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.520 just didn't want to face not making it, you know, 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.280 not not being able to to take care of everybody. 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.360 You know. It's it's almost like when you're drunk. Uh, 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.680 those things aren't as heavy. You know, they don't matter, 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.760 I guess, and um, drinking a little bit out of 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:45.600 just insecurity and fear, you know, I guess, uh, you know, 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.480 just scared. What was the point where you were like, Okay, 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.000 I gotta I gotta chill, dude. Me quitting is the 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.200 weirdest story I don't, you know. Hopefully at some point 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.920 it will make sense where I could kind of help 0:32:56.000 --> 0:33:00.880 other people, and and and and and explain it. But honestly, 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.320 I mean I think I was. I think my body 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.560 just said to my brain, you have to you have 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.720 to quit. You know, we're working and drinking that much. 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.200 I woke up on a Saturday. I remember that as 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.600 in October football game day, me and football. Not drinking 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.080 just didn't ever happen. That hadn't happened since I was 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.760 probably like fifteen, I don't know, something crazy like that. 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.960 And I just didn't drink one Saturday. And I don't 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.840 even know why. I didn't like wake up and say, man, 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.240 I gotta stop. I just woke up. I didn't drink 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.080 that day. Um, I didn't drink on Sunday. A couple 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:41.120 of days turned into a week, you know, and then 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.120 it became this like challenge where it was like I've 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.920 gone this far, I want to go backwards, you know. 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.520 And I also kind of had a little sobriety high. 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.000 You know, when you quit drinking you've been drinking that much, 0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.080 your body feels really really good once it gets over, um, 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.479 you know, not craving just to drink with with all 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:09.719 your might. But so yeah, now I'm like that was 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.160 two octobers ago. So I'm a year and almost a half. 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.920 The funny thing is I don't drink. Guy there, Walker 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.920 doesn't drink, and we're go on tour beer it like 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:24.200 the writers like full of beer and it just sits there. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.640 It's like, Walker, I know you don't drink, but if 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.800 you know anybody that wants beer, they can have it, 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.120 said Nikita. End up drinking some of it. Show a 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.480 little Nikita, So okay, tell me about this song here, 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:42.000 this one, let's play. Let's see, man, I got all 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:43.800 of them. It's like asking me which kid I'd like 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.280 to do here? Talk about this one beer in the fridge. 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:52.320 I quit drinking. The reason I want to get drunk 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:54.960 because I played on the radio. I was like, I 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.480 was moved by the song. Yeah, I still look out 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:03.359 for the car when I'm driving around town, and I'm 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.520 still not quite sure what to do with my hands. 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.440 It's in a crowd. There's a lot I can't remember, 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.640 and a lot I can't forget. One silver bulleting in 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:20.720 the chamber, and I'm playing rush Rule without being the Friends, 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:28.520 Last of twelves so Survivor, My last all night the 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.439 back of the bottom how Ruled that all. It's gonna 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:35.759 be so real man. Uh. It just touches on a 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:40.520 lot of you know, fears, insecurities that I deal with. 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.400 And like you know, you're asking, you know, why were 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.279 you drinking that much? Uh? You know my wife has 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:51.960 never never threatened to leave me, but she probably should 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:56.920 have several times you know in those in those in 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.440 that time period, you know, when I was drinking that 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:05.400 much and uh there you know there was there's so 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.960 many lines in that song that the front. My one 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.879 song line, one lyric in that song that I feel 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.520 like describes me and something that I that I deal 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.960 with is the first one about ranting to your mama, church, mama, 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.360 praying for you. Now. Well like I'm just I just 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.120 care what people think, you know, and I and I 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.360 and I and my own worst critic as well. And 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:34.000 drinking uh made me care less, you know. Uh that 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.200 was one positive about drinking. You know obviously don't you 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.200 don't need to drink to do that. But you know, 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:46.600 I I feel pressure, you know, to to be a 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.279 certain just I don't know, to succeed, you know, and uh, 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.560 prem yourself for myself. But but you know, like I said, 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.279 when I told lady's parents we were coming here. I 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.160 feel the eyes, you know, I feel the I've ill 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.320 people saying, are You're crazy, You're not gonna make it, 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.560 You're not good enough. You know you're not this And 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.080 I don't want to believe him, but I kind of do. 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.560 And when I'm drinking, I definitely don't. I don't care 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.319 what they think. Um, but that song is so true, 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.040 you know the line about the hands. I mean, dude, 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:21.400 the first show that I played without a beer, I 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.200 just felt completely naked. I mean, I've never felt stupider 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.120 in my life because you know, so many years of 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.640 strumming that last chord and reaching for that beer. I 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.719 was to a point where just holding a beer before 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.640 I even open the thing it gave it made me 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.200 feel a sense of security. You know. That's kind of 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.440 where I was with drinking. But yeah, it's true. I mean, um, 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.839 but again I will say, I mean, Lenny, it's not true. 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.320 I didn't lose you know, my wife, but uh, you know, 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.880 she said many tears, you know, talking to me about it, 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.400 and I was at a point went where I admitted, 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.600 you know, she would say things like she didn't say 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.759 things anymore like do you have a problem. I would 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.200 admit I wasn't in denial. At the point when I quit, 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.200 I said, I do have a problem, and I can't. 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.200 I'm not gonna go without it. You know, I need 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.960 this right now for me, you know, I want to 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:25.759 move over to the comedian. Yeah, your dark songs like 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:30.360 resonate with me, like a hardcore like being in the fridge. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.480 You know, I come from a family of addicts and alcoholics, 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.360 and I was like, damn, man, just I just I 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.480 feel the honesty in these songs um with the comedian, 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.439 which I wanna play right here. It's too bad. Being 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:47.520 funny and being happy. He ain't the same thing. It 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:53.400 ain't the same thing. It's so sad. Some of the 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:58.759 longlist hearts in the crowd of the most entoting such 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:04.239 a strange keys to the ones who makes laugh to 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.080 keep themselves from crying, gets to the ones who makes 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:13.360 laugh to keep themselves from cry, Like I heard the 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:18.359 song and it's gonna tell you it's like it can 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:24.840 and I have issues like that, like where it's you know, 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.359 I want to wake people laugh so they can't see 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.960 how sad. And it's the process that I've been dealing 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.360 with for a long time, and it's that's the front 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.799 you try to people laugh, That's where you find love. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.560 That's where I always was able to find love. Like 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.600 let maybe the gay that makes people laugh, because that's 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.680 I'll find the love from that. I have trouble accepting love, 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.880 of trouble giving love just from the environment. You know. 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.560 You and I talked about as a nature or nurture, 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.400 like we have that conversation like away from stuff, and 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.640 for me, I think it's it's definitely nurture the love thing. 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.560 And I heard that song, I was like, dear God, 0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.719 are you writing songs from my brain? Like every song 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.120 to you would sing, I'll be like God. So the 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.000 comedian is that about a front of your specifically? So 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.840 he went to high school with them? Yeah, it's about 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.400 a friend I grew up with and he did not, 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.640 uh commit suicide. Hey, but he died at an early 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:19.560 age and he was that guy, uh you know, just hilarious, um, 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.520 but did have issues, you know, and as we all do. 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.600 You know, I think so many people can can relate 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.319 with that song. You know. It's that we all try 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.440 to find that affirmation. That's never really enough, but it 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.920 sure helps, you know. It doesn't sustain any any long 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.360 term healing or fix us. You know. It's like drinking 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.759 a beer. And it does make me feel good immediately, 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.080 you know, and as does me performing on stage and 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.440 getting that laughing. It makes me feel like I just 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.480 jumped out of a plane. You know. But when you 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.680 get back into green room and you all by yourself, 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.800 all the real stuff comes back, you know, when you 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.120 gotta do it again. But yeah, that that song, I'm 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:06.600 so glad a guy named Matt Jenkins and Josh Jenkins 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.719 they wrote it with me, and they were insistent that 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.879 that we that we do that song together, and I'm 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.000 glad you appreciate it. I'm glad people. Yeah, that's like 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:18.439 and and we'll get to the more of beat stuff 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.080 because you have a sound that is not like anyone else. 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.239 But I just you know, it's my podcast. I talk 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.600 about whatever I want. So those are like, those are 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.600 the songs that hit me hard. And I was just like, okay, 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.280 he's like speed songs a lot of times don't speaking 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.239 real human words anymore. And when you do feel something 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.120 out then in regardless of sonically what it sounds like, 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.239 it being authentic still cuts through no matter what's behind it? 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.680 Something for real still cuts through regardless of the format 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:48.279 the instruments, like realness cuts through. And so that's what 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:53.399 I felt from like stars and the Comedian and beer 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.640 in the fridge. And but then you know, you got 0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:02.319 stuff like break the internet, shake a little bit of sha, 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:06.000 shake a little bit, how did your dollar? You make? 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.080 All the stuff in your shack? And then beat on tables, 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:12.080 beat on the wall, slammed the door, all these sounds. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.120 It's you in that microphone and you're beaten cups and 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:22.040 sounds it. Let's I got a keyboard, win break back. 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:29.040 Then you're doing all these bats B G V maniac. 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.880 But I got the record. As you're cutting this and 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.799 you're playing it for people, what are they saying to you, Like, man, 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.400 it don'tnna work? Or is it gonna be great? Or 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.840 what they what are they saying? Well, Uh, you know, 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:44.080 my people at my publishing company, they saw me obviously, 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.239 uh you know, to write songs, but wanted me to. 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.200 They sign me with the intention of me being an artist. 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.960 And you know, I think at first they thought, hey, 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.960 he's gonna write that one, you know, that dangerous one 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.880 on the country. Ready, you know that country radio slaps 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:05.080 Slam first released bah Boom, and what happened was I 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.960 kind of got off therapeutic you know, on them, like 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.600 you talk about Comedian and stuff like that. Those feel 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.080 so good for me to write, you know, sometimes it's 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.640 just great to get that stuff off of your chest 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.200 and tell everybody that makes me feel better. And so 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.600 that's what I was doing with those those dark ones 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.640 and then the happy ones. That's just kind of how 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.040 that's how I want to party, you know, that's the 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:31.359 stuff I want to play live. And they definitely were. 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.120 What what happened once I started turning and turning them 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:38.400 in and my team didn't see really a fast track. 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.800 Hey this is going to country radio, you know obviously 0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.880 from the sound. But they just love them, you know, 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.760 they liked they loved the song. They found themselves listening 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.760 to them, um and cheat and I know it's cheesy, 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.399 but I even found myself I would listen to them 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.399 like they're not me. I'd be like, I just liked 0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:04.040 this song the comedian, you know, yeah money which such 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.640 base on my body on a honey you make me 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.279 want to check time cruise in my mind, he said, 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.400 due to be I say that's something me. I scrubbing 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.360 the front seat, telling me hanging out like Mike, what 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.319 dia fun of all? This project was the first song 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.480 you wrote. So the first song on this project that 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:30.640 was written was either say sober you broke up with me. 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.160 I don't know which came first, the chicken or the 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:37.600 egg um, but yeah, those those those two you broke 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.000 up with me was the one where we all went, Hey, 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:47.120 keep doing that, because that's something about that, this unique 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:51.400 and digestible. And this is a single now if you 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:59.600 broke up to see me? But hey, if you broke 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:04.200 up me, it was can I say you broke up me? 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.719 What's funny? Is I remember texting you because the song 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.920 came out. Yeah, you know, you produced it yourself, and 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.000 I tell you us like, hey, or the new version, 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.600 it's it's pretty slightly different parts. It's like more radio 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.520 palatable girl. And your response was, I'm listening to it 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.960 like I never heard of before. And you can't grasp 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.919 my party with yore Sorry Sam, wha, he's just don't 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.480 be raining on my money, gop rain Oh a minute, 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.560 I ain't eat my face to listen to yogio tripping. 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.359 Y'all folking and girl you made yo man and then 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:42.080 on me and who sim down to night and nobody 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:49.200 making you watch me getting that it's good. So that's 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.000 a single now and you're working out, you know. The 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.799 interesting thing is is that And I'll just talk about 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.200 my listeners for a second, because I can always tell 0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:01.080 by my listeners if it's a suppose the right way, 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.359 what will work, because all I gotta do is play something. 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.040 My listeners are no bs and they don't like it. 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.880 They just don't. They don't do what I say. I 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.280 just try to give them good options that they probably 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.960 wouldn't be able to hear other places. Like, Honest to god, 0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.399 I can't make them do anything. But what I try 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.160 to do in my job is go, this is different 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.120 or this is really good, and you're not going to 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.640 hear this anywhere else, and if you like it, then 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.520 consume it. However, and I played that song, and I 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.680 looked at an iTunes before I played it because I 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.000 like to see what happens. And I give it one 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.080 full spin. It was a three. I played it one 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:38.879 time with an hour and half went to thirty eight 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.800 or something, and I was for me, it wasn't a 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.799 like for me, it wasn't like, man, Bobby, I told 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.480 you you knew what was good. It was God if 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.680 people can get out of that box a little bit 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:55.480 and see this is one spin. People reacted to this song, 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.799 and so you know, I've tinkered with it a bit 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.080 more more. But now it's kind of like, let's let's 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.399 let the label see what they can do. But it's 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.640 gotta be cool to see people hear it and go, wow, 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.040 I heard it now, I like it. Let me buy that. Yeah, 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.879 it's gonna be some kind of bit like like okay, letybe, 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.480 there's something to this. Do you feel that? Oh? Man? Yes? 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.680 And uh, you know you have. The first question you're 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.000 asking was what it What was it mean for you 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.000 to to be on a label? And I just didn't 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:33.520 It's all every day it's a good day. I'm not 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:37.680 kidding though. I mean every that that day we celebrated. 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.840 I celebrate everything right now. And that is amazing that 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:45.320 that that I woke up that day and you know, 0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.480 you play my song one time and it does that 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.719 and and yes, man, I mean you know, you work 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.440 so hard on music and you just think it's so 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.480 good and and you just then he produced and it's 0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.319 so awesome. And then he put out put it out there, 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:05.160 and you're like, now it's time to see. You know, 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:10.439 the critics are paying and using their criticizing with their money, 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.080 and when they pay it, they're not criticized. And when 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.880 they don't pay it the right and so now just 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.399 to see I mean, we had a sick first week 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.320 when we blew it up and it was awesome and 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:28.040 and yeah, I mean it is so it is so gratifying, 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.480 uh you know that people and people liked it like 0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.640 they're liking it. I mean, hey, another song too that 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.920 I saw a track and I was like, how can 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:37.440 this song even be a song? He just by looking 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.399 at the name of it. Oh, I was like my yeah, 0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.759 I was like, he wrote a song about Halloween. And 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:47.520 I remember because I think it was on the second 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:49.719 the set, but how long was on the second age 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.799 break the internet? So Halloween. I was like, well, let 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.759 me even see what this song is about Halloween? Like 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.600 what is this about that? Dude? One? Like one of 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.160 the deepest songs and beautiful way because that's like I 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.560 get to take off my costume. You're talking about your wife? Yeah, 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:11.360 and then knock knock on yo though the mask I 0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:16.480 ye shouted like glasses on the phone, and it was 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:24.800 like Halloween. It's all the people opportund rest in peace, restes, 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:31.040 rest in peace, so deep, so good, it's all the 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:40.279 people appetenderess tmties best pies. What's it like playing that 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:48.520 for your wife? Oh? Man? Uh awesome because she's so numb. 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.200 You know, love songs in twelve years, three or four 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.279 pub deals, you write a ton of love songs and 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:57.360 you just you come home and you're like, did I 0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:01.479 get you? Did it? Did this one get you? And? Uh? None? 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.879 None of them? You know. God her like this one 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.680 because we dated in high school and she knew that's 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.440 what she meant to me immediately, you know, right off 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.360 the bat. I was a real insecure kid trying to 0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.880 fit in and mobile, and then I met her and 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.640 she just saw the side of me that she really 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.279 fell in love with. And uh that's yeah, one of 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.239 her favorite songs for sure. 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I mean, think anybody even gonna listen, like 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.840 Mike d and I this is no but this is 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.840 our equipment, Like this is just stuff that we wrangled 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.719 up and we started doing this little podcast and we 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.279 were talking to people like, for example, Katelyn one of 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:55.840 the first ones, he was on your It's just Caitlin 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:57.520 right now. I was like, hey, like come over the 0:51:57.600 --> 0:51:59.359 house because I'm gonna do this thing. I'm gonna talk 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.000 to artists, talk to songwriters. And then now we got 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.919 to sleep number sponsor and this thing. But so uh yeah, 0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.279 it's cool. It's cool. It's like, let me ask you this. 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.879 You put all the stuff out for free. At first, well, 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.719 who thought of that? Why was that the plan? So 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:19.320 that was thought of by my manager, Rob Robert Carlton, 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:23.520 and he's kind of famous now, but he, uh, you know, 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.960 he heard my stuff and like we were talking earlier, 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.320 he heard those songs that I was building in the 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:31.719 shack and he said, you know, he ain't gonna fit 0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:35.439 country radio right now, but these will build a fan base. 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.040 People will share these, they will love them, they will 0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.840 connect to them. And so that's what we did. We 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.520 just started putting them out, started touring a little bit, 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.560 got a couple of opening slots you know last year, 0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.240 and places to go play them, got the loop, started 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.480 learning how to do that because just wanted them to 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.200 sound as close as I could to these tracks. And 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.320 that's why we started putting out free music. And it 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.880 was so exhilarating, was so therapeutic for me. It obviously 0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:03.920 made me a better writer. I feel like they just 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.839 keep getting better and better. I'm already working on number three. 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.319 I don't know where that lives, you know, as far 0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:13.040 as label stuff goes, but they will let me continue 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.560 the eight tracks, and so I'm excited about those. They'll 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:21.279 just keep coming for me. I'm a huge fan of 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:25.239 you and the music that you mate. Yeah, welcome, shut up. 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.560 I became a huge fan way earlier, Like I was 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.520 obsessed with it and I would say on the radio, 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:31.239 It's like, what's the biggest albums a year? And I'd 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.600 be like you know, I'll played Repcord from Urban a lot, 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.440 Maren and Walker Hays and I was and and I 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.360 would mean it from the bottom of the heart. And 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.000 it wasn't like you and I were talking every day. 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:42.399 We were I don't even know if we were talking. 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.560 We were maybe exchange the text occasionally. But I was 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.280 just a fan. Like I was just a fan because 0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.439 I love people who try things that aren't the same, 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.680 even if they fall on their face, Like I love 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:57.359 people that take shots falling forward. It's still it's still 0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.440 moving forward. And so one I like the music and too, 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.399 I enjoy the fact that you were trying something new, 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.560 and so I would say that stuff like magazine to 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.480 do interviews like what you let's do most I love 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.880 Dirk's album. I love the Walker Hayes album like it 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:12.960 was just that's just because it was like, what's the 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.160 most thing that you playing? And so something that shook 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:19.440 me a bit. And I'm jaded first to admit it, 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.320 because I've been doing this now and just in this 0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.799 capacity for four years and I've had Garth Brooks sit 0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.680 beside me right and play, and I've had you name 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.520 it's it's it's great, and it never loses the fact 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.240 that it's great. But when when you eat Filet mignon 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:39.239 every day, it becomes kind of normal. So it's like 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.719 I enjoy it and I still appreciate it, but rarely 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:48.040 the things shake me. Occasionally, things like really, and I'm 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.800 gonna tell you. I get a message from one of 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.399 my friends, she works at my record label, and it's 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.840 Mega boardman and she says, uh, do you hear this 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.120 song called Payne Walker Hay sent on the email. I 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.839 was like, no, I'm not on his email list. I'm 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.480 not anybody's email us. I didn't know he had to 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.080 email us. Like I just listened to the music and 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.759 I was like, no, she goes, you should probably hear it, 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:11.719 and I was like, well send me the email, and 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:15.000 so like I'm gonna tell you eyeball to eyeball, I 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.680 just sat in my car and I was like, to 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.080 have someone you're such a huge fan of like even 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.759 mention you and that song. I was like, this is 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:27.719 like crazy in my life. Honestly, it means the world 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.040 for you to say that, because when you put somebody 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.120 in a song, you're like, are they gonna hate? Like 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.960 is this gonna suck for them. It it was. It 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:39.000 was the weirdest thing. It was a great I have 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.960 trouble with emotion, feeling at trouble letting myself feel emotion 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.919 because I feel like any good emotion is gonna be gone, 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:48.399 and any good emotion has to be met with equal bad. 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.719 So I try not to have good emotion like it's 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.600 a Listen, I'm nuts, right, I had great emotion from 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.319 the song man, that's awesome and so and you can't 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.880 do this. This is online, but this is pain from 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.600 walking around here you go, mate. Two thousand sixteen, seven 0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:07.080 something in the morning, I was driving when a dream 0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.560 Comes True came through my high the factory speakers and 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.279 on me. Bobby Bones played a song and I wrote 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.400 about lonely beer and a fresh it's one of my doctors. 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.680 What you hear is out felt from the broken in 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:21.440 my heart was about addiction, love, loss and recovery. Trust me, 0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:23.040 I only wrote it because I had to get it 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.520 out of me, not for Nashville, not for radio, for 0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.520 nobody bought me. And maybe that trouble so pressing rewind, 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.760 wrestling demons like mine looking for company in this design 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:37.360 that doesn't really feel so brand all the time. I 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:43.319 didn't known because iteels so good, feel so grand all 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:52.680 the time, Dan, I didn't know because feels so good 0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:56.759 like I get your box out listen to. So I 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:58.360 guess I want to know about it because well, I 0:56:58.480 --> 0:56:59.920 never asked you about the song because I was kind 0:56:59.920 --> 0:57:04.399 of embarrassed to do it, because I was like, yeah, 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:08.880 I love that. I was embarrassed. So did you know 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.000 I was gonna play your song that morning? Because I 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.959 don't think. I don't tell anybody I'm gonna play their music. Well, 0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:18.800 you know, when we've we've talked about this, Um, I 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:24.120 just feel weird, you know, asking you know people to 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.600 do that. You know, I honestly you know that that 0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:32.400 song is in that category of of comedian uh leadless starr. 0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.200 You know, nobody asked me to write about that. Um, 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.160 I just had to, you know, it was it was 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:41.160 a special moment for me. I was out in the 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.640 middle of nowhere, um picking up Actually I had my 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:48.160 loop worked on in close to Murfreesboro, so I was 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:51.320 just driving when you played beer in the fridge, and man, 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.760 it just wasn't another one of those moments where you 0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:59.600 gotta pinch yourself and and I was like I can't 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.880 believe what is happening to me at that at this 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.080 point in my life. You know, I got six kids 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:09.040 I could barely feed, uh, you know a year ago, 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:14.360 and now, uh my work tapes rocking on the radio, 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.760 you know, and Beer in the Fridge is a naked song. 0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.520 I mean, it's the truth. There's like three things on 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.240 the track. Um, you know, so I'm here and Keith 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.200 Urban blow it up and then all of a sudden, 0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:29.800 I hear just you know always and it just rocked me. Man. 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:31.360 I mean, you know, I don't have a lot of 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:33.800 I have a lot of those moments where I like 0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.360 pull over and cry. I mean, I freaking love music 0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:40.040 and it it has so much emotional power over me. 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.680 But I have never felt like I did when I 0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:46.920 listened to that song. Uh. And so I had to 0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.960 write about that moment and everything that it made me 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:54.240 think of, you know, how far my life had changed 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.880 pretty quick, you know, And so I just blurted it 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.640 all out in that song. And you were obviously a 0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:06.720 part of that story. Um. So thanks. It was a 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:10.920 great business. But honestly, like you said, I mean, I 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.600 gotta tell you, there were moments where I was like 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:15.440 I don't know if I want to release it. Like 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.320 I was also like, do I just put like a DJ? 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.800 I didn't know whether whether you would appreciate having your 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.720 name and it or I was like, he's gonna think 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:29.400 this is just a business move. But honestly, I've rent 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.360 you know, we're running by my team as I was 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.720 creating the song, and they were like, man, you mentioned Mike, 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.040 that guy you worked with a Costco. You mentioned your 0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.080 wife and your kid, and you you know the the 0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.920 song is honest about every detail. There's not one. I've 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.840 always We've always laughed because I'm like, somebody's gonna ask 0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.880 about that song and be like can you can you 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:50.800 tell me about it? And I'm just gonna be like, well, 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.880 two thousand and sixteen, so you know, just I'm gonna 0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:58.440 recite this song because there's really nothing else to say. 0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:02.800 It's just the on truth down to the Costco card 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:06.040 in the freaking console. I believe you too, because one 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.320 you didn't put it out like out out, Yeah it 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:10.720 was you sit down an email. It's still up there 1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.280 for you can't even like stream it. Yeah you gotta 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.440 get um it's nowhere and you know, and I hope 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.400 you eventually, if you put it up, it's all good. 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.320 And I don't believe anybody at any time for any reason. 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:22.760 I believe you because I just I don't believe you. 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:25.680 I don't believe anybody like you. Know how it is 1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:29.200 around here. Yeah, when times are good, everybody's your friend. 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.760 And when times aren't good, and no, I want anything 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.640 to do with you. And I do know that, man, 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:40.040 And that's that's a that's the nature of this beast. 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:41.960 And so you got to find the people. And this 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:44.280 isn't just our business, this is like a life thing. 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.600 You have to find the people that when times are 1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:50.440 on that stock market downtick, that are right by your side, 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:52.479 and you keep them by your side when that stock 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:55.400 market goes back up because it's gonna go back down again. 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:57.919 And so those are the people just ride, they just ride, 1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:59.800 let him ride with you, and you ride with them. 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:02.800 And that's how you find the people, like the people 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:04.760 that are with you when it's down, or the people 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:11.560 that you just keep on surrounding yourself. Right, And there's 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:17.520 like a few and that's it. I know, we had 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:21.080 this whole conversation like off Mike days ago. But yeah, yeah, 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:22.760 it's weird. It's been cool. It's been cool getting to 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.840 know you because again, I'm just a huge fan and 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:27.520 that's why I went. And I was like, I was 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:31.000 doing this whole stand up comedy tour and you know, 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:32.600 I can ask whoever I want to open, And I 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:34.480 was like, man, I would love to freakin Walker Hayes 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:36.280 come out because I just want to watch a blay 1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:39.200 like no other reason, Like I just want Walker to 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:41.240 come out. And then in the middle of all this 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:46.400 to see like you popping, like just popping. Is it 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:49.160 now where you're starting to be cool and people are 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.320 now coming out going, hey, cool guy, you want to 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:55.640 work together? Oh yeah, I bet that happens. And you 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:58.600 know what, that's okay because you're gonna trust as far 1:01:58.600 --> 1:01:59.920 as you can throw them, but you can still use 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:03.520 each other for for whatever advantage you're working together. Yeah, 1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:08.320 and that's you know, I'm ashamed to say this, but 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:12.400 I'm sure I've done that to somebody in this town, 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:14.840 you know, And I try to remember that that we're 1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:18.480 all capable of that. And um, but yeah, I mean 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:22.760 a lot of people are definitely coming out of the woodwork. Um, 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:26.240 and that's tough. You know, sometimes it's tough to accept 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:28.720 that you need the people coming out of the woodwork, though, 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:32.800 is its exactly you need them. It's just used them 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.280 for what they're there to be used for. Yeah, that 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:39.280 they're not the people that are completely down, but they're 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:40.520 down for what you need them for, and you're down 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:43.520 for what you need them for. Just remember I didn't 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:46.400 come out of the woodwork. I was ware. I was like, 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:48.480 I was like hiding in the woods. I was waiting, 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:51.400 like I was up in a tree looking down. I 1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:54.120 was like, you see Walker. Oh man, it's been good. 1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:57.280 I hope you enjoyed like hanging and talking. No, I dide, man, 1:02:57.440 --> 1:02:59.600 thank thanks for having me. I feel like I've been 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.960 on out. It is like it's therapeutic. And here's a 1:03:02.960 --> 1:03:04.960 little something. This is called Walker singing to the Duggers. 1:03:05.080 --> 1:03:07.200 Would you like to talk to us? Oh my gosh, 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:11.120 sing it to the Duggers? You told me from the show. 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:14.680 You tell me what this is? Hey, guys, Hey, how's 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:18.240 it going? You guys like music? No way? You got 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.960 a second? You have the episode? Yeah, so go ahead 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:23.600 and tell me before I play what exactly? Okay, So 1:03:23.760 --> 1:03:27.440 this is uh S is when Derek and Jill I 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:30.360 think is her name, got engaged and how did you 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:33.680 end up on this show? Okay, so there The producer 1:03:33.880 --> 1:03:36.800 of the show lives near me and called me one day. 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:39.800 He didn't hear yeah, you heard me on the back porch. 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:42.960 Now he actually, Man, he was just like, we're thinking 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:46.560 about doing this segment. If you can give us a song, 1:03:46.720 --> 1:03:49.480 I can convince the network that they need to do this. 1:03:49.720 --> 1:03:52.160 And I say, man, tell me about their love story. 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:54.200 He was like, it's really cool. They went all the 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:57.160 way to Catman Do, but they lived, you know, super close, 1:03:57.240 --> 1:03:59.600 but went all the way to another country and met 1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:03.000 each other here. So I just wrote this song and uh, 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:07.200 he was like, boom, that's perfect for their uh engagement. 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:10.480 Here we go. Hey, guys, Hey, how's it going. You 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:14.320 guys like music? You got a second? I got a 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:24.640 song that reminded me music. Hey, that'd be great. Will 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:29.160 you go up about thirty show minutes down the street. 1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:34.160 But we had to go eight thousand miles away to 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:38.440 meet I'm not sure what the Lord was thinking taking 1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:41.400 us all the way to cat Man Do, but I 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:44.440 know he was thinking of me when he made you 1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:47.920 so and as beautiful as that is, the acting is 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:52.360 first of all, has anyone ever in the history of 1:04:52.520 --> 1:04:56.040 questions answered the word no till you do? Like, Hey, 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:58.800 do you like music? It's a safe question. Nah, not 1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:03.160 really all right man? Hey do you like food? No? 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:08.000 And they just listen to the acting here, Uh yeah, 1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:12.800 what's up? Even the Hey guys, it's pretty bad, just 1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:19.240 like sitting in Hey guys, Hey, how's it going? God? 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:24.000 This is awful the acting. Nobody wrote a script. I 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:26.960 remember meeting with him and I talked to him because 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:31.560 he knew he was in on it. I would hope. Yeah, man, 1:05:31.640 --> 1:05:34.200 we botched it big time. But she was still, Hey, 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:38.680 how's it going. You guys like music? She's like, yeah, 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.280 I do, Yeah, I do. How lucky because of all 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:44.560 the people in the world, they both liked music, and 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:49.200 you're lucky that they both did. Man, it was a dude. 1:05:49.240 --> 1:05:54.520 I'm no, I'm no actor, come on hey man' uh? 1:05:55.600 --> 1:05:57.960 And I haven't been written a song about your whole life? Yeah, 1:05:58.120 --> 1:05:59.440 do you have a second to stop for me? While 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:00.840 I played this whole long I read about your life. 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:02.560 This is totally random. By the way, Do you like music? 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:09.080 I've I've actually auditioned for some stuff and failed. Big time. 1:06:09.080 --> 1:06:13.400 I mean acting is talk about putting your guard down. 1:06:13.440 --> 1:06:15.440 I mean that's a scary thing, kind of like your 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:18.720 comedy thing. We were talking about before we went out. 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:21.240 I was asking you if you're a friend, it's all vulnerable. 1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:24.520 It's all vulnerable. Music, vulnerable, comedy, vulnerable acting, it's all. 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:29.720 If you're creative, you are vulnerable because people are choosing 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:32.720 if they like or don't like what you're doing, and 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:36.640 you need them to do that. That's vulnerable. You need 1:06:36.760 --> 1:06:39.720 someone to like or not like you. Hopefully they like you. 1:06:40.520 --> 1:06:43.840 But you don't create, so people don't care. You create 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:46.600 so hopefully people care, and then when they don't, you 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:49.360 realize I didn't create good enough or or at the time, 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:53.000 I didn't create good enough. So just as you get 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:56.640 up and you sing songs about your life, they are 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:58.360 very vulnerable. I get up and I tell stories, and 1:06:58.800 --> 1:07:00.800 the entire light, the entire him is focused on my 1:07:00.880 --> 1:07:03.880 mouth hole. And that's it. But I mean, really that's it. 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:06.040 But I thrive off that the same way that you're 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:09.800 doing writing music. I thrive off of just and again 1:07:09.840 --> 1:07:12.400 it comes back to just being like needing that love too, 1:07:12.960 --> 1:07:16.160 like that that's that's finding love. For me. Hey, go out. 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:19.080 I need that. I need that love, so I fight 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:24.280 for it. Have terrible relationships, God terrible. I want to 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:28.440 talk about it. No, I don't think so it's not 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:31.880 it's not in the moment, not right now. This is 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:33.760 this is not a Bob. This is not a Bobby. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:38.000 Bobby casts a Walker podcast. All right, so downlow, you 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:39.320 broke up with me. It's only saw him that you 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:46.960 can download right now. Yeah, we need to do nobody 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:54.960 making you watch. It's not good. It is. God is 1:07:55.040 --> 1:08:01.120 difficult to see me. But hey, you broke up with me. 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:07.840 It was you broke up So Walker, depending on when 1:08:07.840 --> 1:08:09.000 you hear this, will be out on the road with 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:14.680 me until May. Walker Hayes dot com website to um whenever. 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:17.680 What's Fun is on on tour? Nikita Carmen it comes 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:20.840 down and sings Halloween with you? Is it? Like she's 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:23.240 so good, right, and like nobody even knows about her 1:08:23.280 --> 1:08:27.240 really yet that's weird to me. She's so because she's 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:31.160 so good. But they're going to you know, and I'm 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.400 gonna pull her once and you know she I just 1:08:33.439 --> 1:08:35.120 met her on Skype and I was like, you gotta 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:37.760 move to the States. Really oh yeah. I didn't know that. 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:40.479 I didn't know your story. I don't know. Oh yeah, yeah. 1:08:41.280 --> 1:08:42.800 We were just looking for someone, like I needed a 1:08:42.880 --> 1:08:44.719 girl in the band so I could like write funny 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:48.680 stuff from a girl perspective, raise women. And so I 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:51.479 went through and I she couldn't find anybody. So I 1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:53.720 gave up, and from was like, hey, you should. They're 1:08:53.720 --> 1:08:55.439 just going Australia. She's not trying to get to the 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:57.880 States and be a singer songwright over here, but she 1:08:57.920 --> 1:09:00.360 plays some pubs and I was like, oh okay. So 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:03.560 I skyped with her and thinks like ten am. I 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:05.200 was like, hey, can you hear your guitar in the office, 1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:07.240 and she wouldn't got her guitar. Scyped with her like 1:09:07.240 --> 1:09:09.720 an hour later and she played on skype. That's the 1:09:09.720 --> 1:09:12.080 only time I ever said, ever seen and I was like, 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.960 oh my god, yeah, you're you're so good. She's like, oh, 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:18.640 I didn't known about that. And I was like, can 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.800 you get on a plane in the year in three days? 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:23.240 And she got on a plane quarter job, moved here. 1:09:23.680 --> 1:09:25.040 I didn't have any murder live. She lived with me 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:27.080 for like two and a half months or so, and 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:29.840 so and I was just like you, just just right right. 1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:32.519 She's just writing. She got a publishing deal. She you know, 1:09:32.720 --> 1:09:38.320 you know, but she's so good yeahs and people will 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:45.960 find her. I wonder five every day we're talking about 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:51.280 dude with me. She's sick. She uh yeah, she's like 1:09:51.360 --> 1:09:54.080 two ft tall. Here we go, Nikita Karmen. This is 1:09:54.200 --> 1:10:08.200 the first a place with this m M. I didn't 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:11.160 cry when he said I'm not the one because I 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:15.200 ain't want to come undone. I hear my head up 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:18.679 high and bit my tongue. I let the goodbye setting 1:10:18.800 --> 1:10:22.840 like us couldn't stop thinking about too of us and 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:29.559 heartbreaks hard to rise above. I'll take the high road 1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:32.519 and I'll keep my cool Brett as soon won't be 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:35.760 thinking about you first than it so, my friend, she's 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:38.559 not that pretty. You don't look how for s happy 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.400 as you do with me. She's wearing that trendy Tom 1:10:41.479 --> 1:10:45.160 Petty t shirt. I'll stop being petty by your American girl. 1:10:45.479 --> 1:10:48.320 The first time he was my week's wage. One Guila 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:51.840 Christen and a lipstick on the bathroom mirror, and damn 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:54.760 gonna wake up on the feel just fine. I just 1:10:54.920 --> 1:11:00.640 gotta go a little out of my mind first, guys, like, 1:11:00.800 --> 1:11:03.720 I know you talk about she like calls that a 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:07.120 EP or she's just like those are all worked tape. 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:09.439 I'm gonna tell you something. I believe if you were 1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:13.280 to do that whole play a thing, that joker would 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:17.000 jump off the charge. I mean that song reminds me 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:21.400 of like something Lord, the royal person, the person. You 1:11:21.439 --> 1:11:26.559 know what I'm saying. No, she's legitimately like fantastic. I'm 1:11:26.600 --> 1:11:28.600 looking over here. It's like other artists. You may know 1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:34.360 if it's her, Ready for the list, walk ahead, Lindsay 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:38.439 l my my girlfriend, Slash her roommate now Brandon Ray, 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:41.519 who is like they're one of the greatest, and like, 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:44.320 that's another you can sing his brains off. The raging idiots, 1:11:45.200 --> 1:11:51.719 Caitlin Smith, Natalie Himby, that's her people you may know. God, yeah, Walker, 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:54.200 good luck, man, dude, thank you. I need it. I'm 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:57.160 enjoying this, appreciate you have. I mean, man, this is awesome. 1:11:57.280 --> 1:11:59.400 Relaxing the chair, it is I don't want to get up. 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:01.240 He walked in the house, it was like, this is 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:03.840 where you live. You know what, though, seriously, you need 1:12:03.920 --> 1:12:06.680 to let somebody do a Bobby cast on you. I 1:12:06.800 --> 1:12:08.360 do that every morning. It's told the Boby b Show. 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:11.720 But you need somebody. I wrote a book. You need 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:16.240 someone to ask no questions about uh personal stuff like 1:12:16.520 --> 1:12:19.000 Amy kind of did a bit, right Amy. Yeah we 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:21.080 don't with Amy, she did a bit. But I wrote 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:25.160 a book. Good. I'm good. I got on yeah, second one. 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.479 I talked about that maybe yeah, but yeah, it's good. 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.160 Life's good for me. I'm the thing about me. It's 1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:31.519 about Walker. I'm a huge fan, like die hard fan, 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:34.599 like as legitimately as possible. And I kept you from 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:36.560 this for a while because it was like everybody was like, 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:38.679 all right, enough for Walker ahead talk about Walker Hayes, 1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:40.519 like you just wait. I have a tweet that I 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:42.680 say from like seven months ago that was like in 1:12:42.760 --> 1:12:44.400 a year. But it's gonna be like, why did I 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:47.800 sleep on Walker Hays. I save that tweet. I'm gonna 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:51.000 show everybody one day and be like I told you 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.960 good to see you man. Thanks. All right, Walker Hays 1:12:54.000 --> 1:12:58.400 download anything he puts out, I demand it. All right, good, alright, Mike, 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:00.880 we're out. What episode was that thirty six? All Right? 1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:05.000 Walker Hayes at Walker Hayes right dot com. H A. 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:07.760 Y E. S. Walk from me on Instagram. Yeah, at 1:13:07.880 --> 1:13:10.920 walker Heights on Instagram and Twitter at walkers dot com. Uh, 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.680 he's out with me doing all the music and I 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:15.960 do with the jokes until may have you announced the 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.160 other thing yet? Don't know? Okay, so then in mind 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:21.640 other stuff coming down, other stuff coming for us. All right, 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:26.679 we'll see you, uh siting, Bye, buddy. You can hearly 1:13:26.760 --> 1:13:28.240 keep this STI thing in the back up forgot to 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:29.479 turn her part down anyway, by it