Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode thirty six The Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: Here this episode with Walker Hayes. Hey boy, hey buddy. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess now we spent a lot of time together
Speaker 1: because we're on the road right now together and so
Speaker 1: now I get to ask the questions that I don't
Speaker 1: get to ask, like when we're just sitting down, because
Speaker 1: the people want to know, like the real stuff, and
Speaker 1: so they'll be stuff like some of the stuff I
Speaker 1: wouldn't ask you, Like we're just hanging out before show.
Speaker 1: We'll be like, tell me your deepest fear a stuff like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we just talked. Yeah, we're just talked.
Speaker 1: But we're always like getting ready for stuff too, because
Speaker 1: you always got to want to play. Um. So here's
Speaker 1: the the whole. What we'll do is we're kind of
Speaker 1: encapsulate you and then we'll just work back. So right now,
Speaker 1: you just signed a record deal to Monument Records. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Uh? My goodness. Uh. I mean it
Speaker 1: means I have another chance and having a career, you know,
Speaker 1: as an artist, and and that being my full time job.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it means to me. It might
Speaker 1: sound simple, but that's exactly what it means. It means
Speaker 1: I have a career, a chance at a career, a
Speaker 1: long lasting career. Again, yes again, another shot for sure.
Speaker 1: So you talk about other shots and and just quickly
Speaker 1: here because then I want to go all the way
Speaker 1: back through it. But you've been on labeled before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my third record deal. I've been in Nashville
Speaker 1: twelve years and I will signed A Mercury got dropped.
Speaker 1: I was signed a Capital got dropped, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna get another chance because
Speaker 1: you don't really get that many um here. Most people
Speaker 1: don't get to and so this is my third. The
Speaker 1: thing about Walker too is that I we didn't know
Speaker 1: each other and I we first moved here. It was
Speaker 1: when my co host, Amy's mom was sick and I
Speaker 1: got the song and say, hey, he's got any Walker.
Speaker 1: Here's what the song called Joy like Judy and so
Speaker 1: we and I heard the songs, so we'd be choosing
Speaker 1: to us to make up a boy. Namy's mom was
Speaker 1: fighting cancer and we were doing a fundraiser and it
Speaker 1: wasn't for her mom. It was just we were, you know,
Speaker 1: doing a pimp and joy thing. That's how we met,
Speaker 1: and so he came and the song actually was downloaded
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, you know that kind of thing happened,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't see it for a bit, and see,
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody. First of all, I didn't see
Speaker 1: it for a bit. And then I'm on YouTube and
Speaker 1: I do the thing on YouTuber. I find an artist
Speaker 1: and it'll go also recommended, also recommended, also recommended. And
Speaker 1: so until I find music and artists and I'll go
Speaker 1: to SoundCloud, I'll do whatever, and I'm going through and
Speaker 1: I see this song right here, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's Walker Age. I was like, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: joy like dude together shaking, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what this is, but it sounds like nothing else.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking that was like, it sounds like nothing else.
Speaker 1: Even that, so I played it on the regular the
Speaker 1: next morning and I was like, I was like this,
Speaker 1: you just hear something that it strikes you oddly. And
Speaker 1: then from there I just started to play all your
Speaker 1: stuff on the air because I sit there and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you think that's good. You got to
Speaker 1: hear this one. I was like, my favorite song is
Speaker 1: a comedian is too bad being fun. So all these songs,
Speaker 1: as I would hear them, I would be like, this
Speaker 1: is unlike anything I'm hearing right now. I'm period. And
Speaker 1: I would talk to my friends like Dan Smarting from
Speaker 1: Dan and Shay, Him and I talk about music a lot,
Speaker 1: and I was like this, Walker, hey, stuff is like
Speaker 1: next level, like cerebral type stuff. And I don't even
Speaker 1: think anybody even notices it right now. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it. Then you ended up
Speaker 1: going on tour with them. Now you're on tour with me,
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's where we are right now. So
Speaker 1: that's where that's where you are. That's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back to. But now I want to go back
Speaker 1: to the very beginning. So you talk about you came
Speaker 1: to Nashville. You came to Nashville. How old were you
Speaker 1: when you came to Nashville was twenty let's see seven? Four?
Speaker 1: You go to school and study music. I went to
Speaker 1: college and I did eventually change my major to piano.
Speaker 1: I graduated with a degree in music with an emphasis
Speaker 1: on piano. You're a good piano player, are you? Are
Speaker 1: you a piano player? Yeah? I sit down at the
Speaker 1: piano and people be like, oh, that guy could play piano.
Speaker 1: I could, Um, you know I could. I could play
Speaker 1: with the songs, my songs, you know, I could play
Speaker 1: for myself. I had to do a lot of classical stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously to graduate. But when I moved to Nashville,
Speaker 1: are you standing backing a little bit? Like like a
Speaker 1: golfer would be like, I'm not that good and he go, no, No,
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really
Speaker 1: play piano until college and I met you know, A
Speaker 1: met a professor and I said, can I finish this
Speaker 1: on time? So I got pretty proficient, you know, while
Speaker 1: I was in college. It's a lot of muscle memory
Speaker 1: and a lot of cool stuff I learned. But now
Speaker 1: I could just cord around kind of like I'm as
Speaker 1: good at piano as I am a guitar. So songs
Speaker 1: you knew the guitar then too, the right, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you musical through like elementary school, high school. You're growing up.
Speaker 1: My wife and I we actually met in a in
Speaker 1: a school play, you know, So I did that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff school theater and singing choirs and things like that.
Speaker 1: Music really, um, my dad was a music minister before
Speaker 1: he started selling real estate in Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama,
Speaker 1: and so uh yeah, I mean he kind of gave
Speaker 1: me that music bug. I didn't really chase it as
Speaker 1: like a dream, you know, a job or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Then definitely didn't even do that. Out of college. I
Speaker 1: went to kind of go work for him. So when
Speaker 1: you finished schoo well you have to work for your dad,
Speaker 1: was yeah. So I finished school, got my real estate license,
Speaker 1: and I got engaged to Lanny. You know, we've been
Speaker 1: dating on and off for a bazillion years. And uh,
Speaker 1: that was my plan. That was my answer to her
Speaker 1: her dad, you know, what are you gonna do? And
Speaker 1: it was worked for my dad. And uh, my dad
Speaker 1: encouraged me to go play at a bar. It's called
Speaker 1: Mobile Yacht Club off at Dolphin Island Parkway in Mobile,
Speaker 1: and he kept encouraging me to do that. He thought
Speaker 1: it was funny and kind of how I would mimic people.
Speaker 1: I knew like a couple of songs on the guitar
Speaker 1: and would play around at the house. And he wanted
Speaker 1: me to do it, and I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: because I had stage fright that scared me to death,
Speaker 1: you know, getting up in front of people and singing.
Speaker 1: And uh, finally I said, Dad, I'll do this if
Speaker 1: you'll leave me alone you know about it, and stop
Speaker 1: asking me to do it. And I went up there
Speaker 1: on a Friday night, sang some songs and pretty much
Speaker 1: changed changed my mind about life. So you went and
Speaker 1: you performed. You were like, all right, what I want
Speaker 1: to do it? I mean crazy whim called Laney, So
Speaker 1: we're moving. Then I had to tell her parents really
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Speaker 1: you cook, by the way, because you have six kids?
Speaker 1: Six kids and one kids, three boys, three girls, and
Speaker 1: a wife and you don't cook. I don't cook. No,
Speaker 1: I cook. I mean I cook an egg? Yeah, cook
Speaker 1: an egg? All right? So you you decided we're moving
Speaker 1: to Nashville just from one night of playing in front
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, it was pretty wild. I mean I
Speaker 1: played at such a great time called Laney. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to move to Nashville to sing that was it.
Speaker 1: I want to go. Uh. You know, I think she
Speaker 1: was pretty adventurous. You know at the time we were
Speaker 1: kids excited about you know, getting out of town. Um,
Speaker 1: she was with it. I mean, oddly enough, she there
Speaker 1: was no second guessing on her part. She was ready
Speaker 1: to go. And so what what was your style back then?
Speaker 1: So my style back then? I remember two songs that
Speaker 1: I played. One was sitting on the dock of the
Speaker 1: bay and then uh didn't doubIe Gray Drift Away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: drift and I guess Drift Away And uh, I only
Speaker 1: played like five songs. I just played him over and
Speaker 1: over and um so yeah, I mean I was just
Speaker 1: gonna him up and singing. You know, moved to Nashville
Speaker 1: trying to be a rock star. Do you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna make it? Yeah? I did. I was dumb enough
Speaker 1: to to be like, yeah, I'm gonna go you know
Speaker 1: and figure this out, be famous. I mean I knew nobody.
Speaker 1: We had a great time picking out our apartment, um
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Honestly, meeting with their parents, they
Speaker 1: were really frightened and just thought I was nuts. You know,
Speaker 1: this was not This was on such a whim and
Speaker 1: the security that I had, you know, in Mobile made
Speaker 1: a lot more sense to them. And um so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, man, we just found an apartment, got married,
Speaker 1: and drove up here. So you move here? And what
Speaker 1: does one do when you don't know anybody in a
Speaker 1: town like Nashville and you want to make music? Like,
Speaker 1: what's the first step? You go outside? And man, I mean,
Speaker 1: as cliche as it sounds, the absolute first thing I
Speaker 1: did was go sign up for an open mic night
Speaker 1: at the Bluebird. Uh. I was. I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: what number I chose, you know, to get selected that night.
Speaker 1: But so you played the first night you went. I
Speaker 1: came on a Monday night, stood in line, got selected.
Speaker 1: Uh they they were about to call my name, but
Speaker 1: I realized that everybody in there was playing songs that
Speaker 1: they had written, and I showed up to play cover.
Speaker 1: So we left and then I came back the next
Speaker 1: Monday with a couple of songs that I wrote that
Speaker 1: week and then performed. And it was the same rush.
Speaker 1: You know. So the first time you went, you end
Speaker 1: up not playing. Well, I check it out. I wasn't
Speaker 1: about to get up and play that. I was gonna
Speaker 1: play drift Away. There's a little everybody give me the
Speaker 1: beat boy? Free up? Did you write that little something?
Speaker 1: I wrote? So the first time, you don't do it.
Speaker 1: The second time you're going, you do what you play?
Speaker 1: What song you remember? I do? I remember I played
Speaker 1: a song about as short of a time period as
Speaker 1: we have been married. I learned very quickly that when
Speaker 1: you bring up the in laws that your significant other
Speaker 1: gets really pissed, and so I wrote a song about that,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of a joke, you know, a
Speaker 1: funny song and uh, I'm under the title of it,
Speaker 1: and I played too, and I just remember the crowd reacting.
Speaker 1: You know, they laughed, they had a great time. I mean,
Speaker 1: they went nuts. It's a real supportive crowd at the
Speaker 1: blue Bergs. They're there to hear the writer performing their songs,
Speaker 1: so they went nuts. I mean, it wasn't not I
Speaker 1: didn't like get a deal or anything quick. You know,
Speaker 1: did you feel like after that night though, that you
Speaker 1: had submitted a little more in your head, like I
Speaker 1: can do this. Uh? I didn't really think about whether
Speaker 1: I could or not. I just did, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I also it was like a drug.
Speaker 1: I mean I honestly, but since then, I haven't stopped
Speaker 1: writing songs. It's just I fell in love with that,
Speaker 1: that conceiving the idea, putting it together, playing it for somebody,
Speaker 1: getting their reaction, moving on to the next one. You know,
Speaker 1: my favorite song is always the one I'm working on
Speaker 1: right now, And that's kind of how I've been since then.
Speaker 1: It just it pretty much consumes my life and has
Speaker 1: since then. So how long until you get and I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you're getting in a publishing deal first, which is
Speaker 1: what happened to get They pay you to write songs?
Speaker 1: How long did it take from you playing that bluebird
Speaker 1: until you getting a published and deal? So I had
Speaker 1: a I had a day job. I booked motivational speakers
Speaker 1: at Premier Speakers Bureau, uh in Franklin. Like what motivational
Speaker 1: speakers ran through in Franklin. A lot of right wing conservatives,
Speaker 1: old Steelers player Rocky Blyer, a couple of authors, um,
Speaker 1: Oliver North there, Sean Hannity. We booked them. Uh some
Speaker 1: of those were exclusive. Um sorry again, trying to get
Speaker 1: rid of that tick. But yeah, just I booked them
Speaker 1: and uh lost, actually lost my job in a year,
Speaker 1: and then I got a pub deal. So it took
Speaker 1: me a year and a couple of months to secure
Speaker 1: a pub deal. So in that year, you're just writing
Speaker 1: and singing songs to people are going, hey, check it out.
Speaker 1: I know in that year I was working, you know
Speaker 1: that was none, none to five. My clientele was West
Speaker 1: Coast event planners, so I got to show up a
Speaker 1: little bit later and stay a little longer. But I
Speaker 1: was writing songs while I was working, you know, on
Speaker 1: my computer, just loading it up and yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: playing open mic nights anybody could I could ever get
Speaker 1: my songs in front of Obviously I was trying to
Speaker 1: do that playing all the local um you know songwriter
Speaker 1: nights that I could and um yeah, I wasn't really
Speaker 1: comparing myself to other people. I just loved, like I said,
Speaker 1: I loved, loved, loved writing, I mean obsessed with writing.
Speaker 1: So you're right, and you start to get paid to write,
Speaker 1: and what did you What were your first cut? Shoot? Man,
Speaker 1: I mean my my first pub deal actually got me
Speaker 1: a record deal first. I mean I didn't get a cut.
Speaker 1: So your pub deal got your record deal first? Is
Speaker 1: this the Keith Urban Demo story? No, that's that's capital.
Speaker 1: That's the second deal. The first pub deal I ever
Speaker 1: got was from a neighbor heard me messing around on
Speaker 1: the porch. He said, man, I really like what you do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you into douce you to two or
Speaker 1: three people. He brought me into town. I met two
Speaker 1: big time producers where Franklin and Franklin. Here's your playing
Speaker 1: on your porch, here's me on the porch. Yeah. He's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I really love your voice. Did you did you write that?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you want to hear some more. And
Speaker 1: though I wrote a song about his kid and whose
Speaker 1: name is Hogan, which that was a business move right there.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, if I write song by his
Speaker 1: kids and really, you know, hog me up. So he
Speaker 1: takes me into town, introduced me to to introduced me
Speaker 1: to Scott Hendricks, David Malloy and a guy named Christie
Speaker 1: de Napoli, and uh, Christie wanted to sign me to
Speaker 1: a pub deal. The other two wanted to maybe cut
Speaker 1: some sides and do the shoppy thingy and I wasn't
Speaker 1: really ready for that. I just wanted to write, you know,
Speaker 1: really bad. I wanted to get paid to write songs. Uh.
Speaker 1: And at that time I only had one kid, so
Speaker 1: I didn't have to make that much money. Um. And
Speaker 1: so anyway, Christie sigh me under a guy named Buddy
Speaker 1: Killing who's gone now but great first publisher to have
Speaker 1: learned a lot from that guy. And Alison Jones. I
Speaker 1: know this is industry, but signed me at Mercury and
Speaker 1: so you get a publishing deal and a record deal
Speaker 1: basically at the same time. Well, I got a pub
Speaker 1: deal and then we we worked on it, you know,
Speaker 1: and he had cut some sides there and then they
Speaker 1: shot me and then got me, got me my first
Speaker 1: record development deal. So when you get signed to a
Speaker 1: development deal, what do they start doing with you? What
Speaker 1: do they develop? So the development deal basically got me
Speaker 1: James Stroud, great producer. He cut some sides on me.
Speaker 1: So what we did is just accumulate songs, kept writing
Speaker 1: for a little while, Uh, chose the best ones, went
Speaker 1: in the studio, caught him with an excellent band. So
Speaker 1: that was my first experience with that, you know, And
Speaker 1: of course we came home with five songs. I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna be Garth Brooks. I sounded like him.
Speaker 1: It sounded better than NA. I was not Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1: I I had some great stuff, you know, looking back,
Speaker 1: I think some of those sides were good. But uh,
Speaker 1: there was a falling out within the company and it
Speaker 1: wasn't long until I was off that that labeled me.
Speaker 1: That that deal expired pretty quick. So you're on, did
Speaker 1: you put a record on? I didn't. I cut five sides,
Speaker 1: literally celebrated the cutting my first five songs. You cut
Speaker 1: five songs, I'm going I were beside myself and stuff
Speaker 1: sounds so great. Uh. We finished those in a December.
Speaker 1: I got a call in January saying that, uh, James
Speaker 1: Stroud was gone from the label and that they he
Speaker 1: had parted with co you know, head People, and Alison
Speaker 1: Jones was leaving and I wasn't. I wasn't on the
Speaker 1: label anymore. But the label stayed, label stayed. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: remember put out a single? Iver put out a single?
Speaker 1: Did you tell the publishing deal? You're still writing, still writing,
Speaker 1: and I still still still trying to get outside cuts.
Speaker 1: But did not get outside cuts? So you have to
Speaker 1: go to another try to get how long until you
Speaker 1: get signed to a different label. So after that it
Speaker 1: took me to two years to get another label. This
Speaker 1: when Urban, here's your This is when Autumn House, a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, pitched the song for Keith Urban. Keith
Speaker 1: Urban did not take the song, but the A and
Speaker 1: R rep at Capital Autumn House said, I like this
Speaker 1: guy singing, I like this writing style. You know who
Speaker 1: is this kid? And uh, they said it's Walker Hayes,
Speaker 1: you know, And within a couple of months I had
Speaker 1: a deal with Capital. A lot of my deals came
Speaker 1: pretty quick. You know, deals are hard to get, but
Speaker 1: my first two just kind of fell into my lap.
Speaker 1: I mean if they just kind of came out of
Speaker 1: nowhere for me. So you get a deal, you sort
Speaker 1: of cut songs again or to use your old songs. Oh. Man,
Speaker 1: when I got deal at Capital, I was writing. You
Speaker 1: go through the producer search. You know, I was on
Speaker 1: Capitol two years probably before we even decided, you know,
Speaker 1: to try a single. You've been signing for two years
Speaker 1: before you put a song out. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: have been a Capital around that time. The frustrating Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it was. I mean we were looking
Speaker 1: for the right producer. We tried some, we cut some.
Speaker 1: They just didn't didn't lower our minds, you know. So
Speaker 1: then you have your first song. What's your first single?
Speaker 1: My first single was pants all right? She can but
Speaker 1: she can't run the shoes, she can't crack a will
Speaker 1: like Indiana John, she can't snap, I can't take home
Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Look you're giving me body
Speaker 1: you write that I did. I wrote it for my wife.
Speaker 1: Gives the colders, makes the plans that woman's with. When
Speaker 1: you hear the song, now, what do you think why?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you know, I just hear it
Speaker 1: and uh, it's doesn't sound you know it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: that great. I just don't. I don't hear it like
Speaker 1: I did then. And when when I heard it then,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just thought this is gonna be amazing,
Speaker 1: and um, I don't know, I just hear it now
Speaker 1: and it just the maybe I've gotten better at writing,
Speaker 1: you know, and I can just see the holes in there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I created just like hearing myself on a
Speaker 1: answering machine. Thanks. So how the single? Do? I have
Speaker 1: no idea? The song was added heavily, you know, right
Speaker 1: off the bat, and uh, you know, I saw success
Speaker 1: coming my way quick and uh then it just hit
Speaker 1: a wall and uh, some people were slow to pick
Speaker 1: it up, and it went to thirty eight and uh eventually, um,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Dungan and Capital pulled it and they
Speaker 1: decided to go with another one shortly after that. What
Speaker 1: song was? After that one? They went with a song
Speaker 1: called wild Wait for Summer and it did not do.
Speaker 1: Um as well those pants. If you have two singles
Speaker 1: that didn't work, did they drop you or do they go,
Speaker 1: We're gonna work out some other stuff. So we we
Speaker 1: chilled out for a long time. You know, I got
Speaker 1: put on the back Burner and uh, I sat for
Speaker 1: a long long time and man, honestly, just to give
Speaker 1: Capital some credit, I mean they believed, I mean they
Speaker 1: believed hardcore and and they stuck their neck out for me. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't fully understand, you know, the need for the machine.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how the bids really worked, you know
Speaker 1: at that time. You know, there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of arrogance. I'm not the most coachable human being on
Speaker 1: the planet, and that kind of you know, shot me
Speaker 1: in the foot back then. But yeah, we sat for
Speaker 1: a long time. I continue to just right and write
Speaker 1: and try to give them that one. You know that
Speaker 1: they felt confident, you know, if you're gonna go three deep,
Speaker 1: that third one, I mean that's your hail Mary right there,
Speaker 1: you know, especially if the first two have flopped. Um.
Speaker 1: So I fought and fought, you know, to write and
Speaker 1: and to get that that song, the one, and man
Speaker 1: just couldn't find it, and you know, eventually got dropped.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean that was that was the
Speaker 1: beginning of some dark some dark times right there. So
Speaker 1: you get dropped. Ever your second label, what year was that,
Speaker 1: you know, Let's see, it's two thouns seventies six probably fourteen,
Speaker 1: begetting fourteen. So you get dropped in two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: So what do you do well at that period? I
Speaker 1: think I have four kids, so I'm still not I'm
Speaker 1: still not a truly buried in final financial woes. But
Speaker 1: I had a pub deal. You know, I'm still my
Speaker 1: my publishers. That's one thing that's that I've always had
Speaker 1: pub deal, publishers that believe that I can get outside cuts.
Speaker 1: You know, So at that time I didn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say I just shut the artist thing down, but I wrote, man,
Speaker 1: I aimed and aimed to get outside cuts, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted outside country cuts. And one of these mainstream artists,
Speaker 1: uh to to you know, I just knew somebody was
Speaker 1: gonna cut one of my songs. We're gonna be huge.
Speaker 1: Kind of solidified me a spot in that writer community.
Speaker 1: And uh, I eventually did get a cut um from
Speaker 1: Rodney Atkins. Uh he cut one of my songs called
Speaker 1: Touching Feet, and uh it was you know, it was
Speaker 1: a great motivation, you know, to keep on writing and
Speaker 1: didn't end up being a single. But okay, what about
Speaker 1: this one? Kind of forgot about seat? That's rights too, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the So that was when he cut on
Speaker 1: the next album, and that was ended up being his single. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I killed his career. No, you didn't squeezing.
Speaker 1: You didn't know. He man, Roddy, He's a great guy,
Speaker 1: and he believed in some of my songs. And man,
Speaker 1: even though you know, I had several of those types
Speaker 1: of songs that that would get cut and maybe they
Speaker 1: weren't the single the big the big Dog on the record.
Speaker 1: But when you get those, man, it just kind of
Speaker 1: tells you. It's like it's like a whisper saying, hey,
Speaker 1: stick around, It's all right, you're here for a reason.
Speaker 1: What about this here Cold Fort song? Dirty side, Dude,
Speaker 1: I love this song. This is my jams. You're right it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he featured me time. But if you side, I love
Speaker 1: a good side side you're looking for side I loved.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you can dance like there, I got it.
Speaker 1: So you wrote it together. Yeah, I'm super appreciated that
Speaker 1: they featured me. I'm talking about the perfect girl. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that everywhere stopped looking at Magazine's
Speaker 1: head on out. So you're writing, you're out, You don't
Speaker 1: have artists, Jill right, what you probably still want even
Speaker 1: you still want to be the artist, but you do
Speaker 1: have you want to be the writer. You talking about
Speaker 1: having dark times like your mind just like where did
Speaker 1: I tell you what? The darkest period I ever experienced
Speaker 1: here in Nashville was past these cuts. You know, you
Speaker 1: get a couple of cuts, and I'm still I'm not
Speaker 1: able to I mean, I'm barely supporting us, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, No, the money is not just
Speaker 1: rolling in from from these types of cuts. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not having hit singles, which is kind of what you
Speaker 1: gotta have, you know, nowadays to to to thrive as
Speaker 1: a writer. You gonna have one every now and then. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm loving what I'm doing. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm getting better and better and so much closer to
Speaker 1: dial in it in, you know, with with what artists
Speaker 1: need and what they want and getting those outside cuts.
Speaker 1: But I'm playing at Pucket's boat house, and money gets
Speaker 1: real tight. I'm talking seriously tight, and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: really like to ask for help. And I had toyed with,
Speaker 1: you know, getting kind of a second gig, and I
Speaker 1: remember this this night I will never forget. I'm playing
Speaker 1: Pucket's boat House, which, by the way, it's like a
Speaker 1: restaurant and a stage for people. Um just so that
Speaker 1: it's like a very famous Nashville Southern food restaurant and
Speaker 1: they're a stage. And so what I what I was
Speaker 1: doing is, you know, I didn't have artists deal, but
Speaker 1: I want to keep performing. So that uh that the
Speaker 1: Andy Marshall and Puckets so always so gracious to me
Speaker 1: giving me a gig, and I'm playing for tips, and
Speaker 1: what I would do is play an hour and then
Speaker 1: host an open mic night just for the community. I
Speaker 1: wanted to meet new writers and stuff and kind of
Speaker 1: do what people did for me in my first couple
Speaker 1: of years here. So one night, this guy comes and
Speaker 1: his name is Nick Candre and uh, sweet sweet yuh
Speaker 1: comes up, wants to play at the open mic night.
Speaker 1: And he just thinks, you know, he's he's heard my
Speaker 1: songs on Rodney, my stuff on Colt. He thinks I'm
Speaker 1: like Elvis, you know, and he's just treat me like
Speaker 1: it too, and he and he mentions at one point
Speaker 1: in the night that he worked at the tire center
Speaker 1: at Costco and I was looking for a job at
Speaker 1: night so I could continue writing during the day. And
Speaker 1: so it was just a humbling moment to kind of
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, while you're getting my autograph, do you
Speaker 1: know any you know, is there any openings at Costco?
Speaker 1: You know, are they looking for for people that stock
Speaker 1: stuff overnight and stuff? And he hooked me up and
Speaker 1: that's how I got a job at Costco. But it
Speaker 1: was just I mean, I don't know if embarrassing is
Speaker 1: the word, but you know, it was just it was
Speaker 1: an interesting moment that he saw me as kind of
Speaker 1: like an influence on him musically, and I was so happy,
Speaker 1: you know, to meet me. And I was like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: I kind of need a job, you know, I need
Speaker 1: some help. Can you can you hook me up? And
Speaker 1: uh so that was that that was a low a
Speaker 1: low point for me. Um, kind of having to ask
Speaker 1: for help from that guy. Do you feel like he
Speaker 1: learned from it and appreciate it even more afterwards? Just
Speaker 1: through that experience with Costic experience, everything everything that is
Speaker 1: connecting with people now is pretty much about that experience
Speaker 1: in my life. So yes, um, it's been truly beneficial. Um.
Speaker 1: I got a great perspective. Uh you know, what matters,
Speaker 1: you know, what matter in life. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: Leela Stars is about. You know, I did a lot
Speaker 1: of I did a lot of I don't know what
Speaker 1: you say, like not soul searching, but you know, we
Speaker 1: uh interesting songs this guy and it's just a roof
Speaker 1: from Yeah. Yeah, that song is about the thumb tacks
Speaker 1: that she gave me to hold up the roof of
Speaker 1: Mi Honda that I had at the time, and when
Speaker 1: my roof was coming down, I lost it and I
Speaker 1: was just crazy at that point in my life. I
Speaker 1: was drinking a ton just to kind of cut the
Speaker 1: edge off the heaviness, um and the burdens and stuff
Speaker 1: that I I was kind of up against with wanting
Speaker 1: to still chase my dream, kind of thinking I was
Speaker 1: nuts um. Pretty much to let everybody looking at us
Speaker 1: from the outside, I probably thought I was nuts too. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I had all the kids and I was
Speaker 1: still trying to do that to take care of them
Speaker 1: when I could have you know, done a lot of
Speaker 1: other things and made a whole lot of sense, you know,
Speaker 1: to take care of them. But yeah, lettle Stars is
Speaker 1: about those stumb tacks that she she let me borrow
Speaker 1: and I was really bummed and frustrated at the time.
Speaker 1: The roof coming out in my car was one of
Speaker 1: those moments in your life where you're looking up and
Speaker 1: you're like, you gotta be kidding me, you know, like
Speaker 1: I need one freaking more thing unit to carry right now.
Speaker 1: And uh, one morning, when I was about to clock
Speaker 1: in at Costco, I looked up and I saw those
Speaker 1: thumb tacks and it just reminded me. Well, first I
Speaker 1: thought of her face and just her smile and how
Speaker 1: much fun she had putting those up, and uh, she
Speaker 1: just thought they're awesome, you know, they made the car
Speaker 1: look incredible, And it was just an interesting perspective at
Speaker 1: that time to remember, Hey, I got healthy kids, I
Speaker 1: do have a job, I have to you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm still able to write. My wife
Speaker 1: never was unhappy, you know, I was really the only one,
Speaker 1: uh that was unhappy. Um. And so that was a
Speaker 1: that was a great moment um and and got a
Speaker 1: cool song out of it. So you were drinking a lot.
Speaker 1: You don't drink it all now, so so you must
Speaker 1: be drinking a lot. I have to stop, man, I was,
Speaker 1: I mean, we want we want to talking about numbers.
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, I mean, I was drinking
Speaker 1: from I was drink at Costco. Um. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: I was doing my work, um, working hard, but I
Speaker 1: mean I was I was drinking on on breaks at Costco.
Speaker 1: You know, I go to the parking lot, you know,
Speaker 1: and do that leave, go do a show with the Bluebird.
Speaker 1: You know, they were hiring me for shows. I was
Speaker 1: still able to get some work out of them. Um.
Speaker 1: I drink before him, drinking after him, drink while I wrote,
Speaker 1: drive home, drink because you're sad man. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you know, I think I was just uh, I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to face not making it, you know,
Speaker 1: not not being able to to take care of everybody.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's almost like when you're drunk. Uh,
Speaker 1: those things aren't as heavy. You know, they don't matter,
Speaker 1: I guess, and um, drinking a little bit out of
Speaker 1: just insecurity and fear, you know, I guess, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just scared. What was the point where you were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta chill, dude. Me quitting is the
Speaker 1: weirdest story I don't, you know. Hopefully at some point
Speaker 1: it will make sense where I could kind of help
Speaker 1: other people, and and and and and explain it. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I was. I think my body
Speaker 1: just said to my brain, you have to you have
Speaker 1: to quit. You know, we're working and drinking that much.
Speaker 1: I woke up on a Saturday. I remember that as
Speaker 1: in October football game day, me and football. Not drinking
Speaker 1: just didn't ever happen. That hadn't happened since I was
Speaker 1: probably like fifteen, I don't know, something crazy like that.
Speaker 1: And I just didn't drink one Saturday. And I don't
Speaker 1: even know why. I didn't like wake up and say, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta stop. I just woke up. I didn't drink
Speaker 1: that day. Um, I didn't drink on Sunday. A couple
Speaker 1: of days turned into a week, you know, and then
Speaker 1: it became this like challenge where it was like I've
Speaker 1: gone this far, I want to go backwards, you know.
Speaker 1: And I also kind of had a little sobriety high.
Speaker 1: You know, when you quit drinking you've been drinking that much,
Speaker 1: your body feels really really good once it gets over, um,
Speaker 1: you know, not craving just to drink with with all
Speaker 1: your might. But so yeah, now I'm like that was
Speaker 1: two octobers ago. So I'm a year and almost a half.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is I don't drink. Guy there, Walker
Speaker 1: doesn't drink, and we're go on tour beer it like
Speaker 1: the writers like full of beer and it just sits there.
Speaker 1: It's like, Walker, I know you don't drink, but if
Speaker 1: you know anybody that wants beer, they can have it,
Speaker 1: said Nikita. End up drinking some of it. Show a
Speaker 1: little Nikita, So okay, tell me about this song here,
Speaker 1: this one, let's play. Let's see, man, I got all
Speaker 1: of them. It's like asking me which kid I'd like
Speaker 1: to do here? Talk about this one beer in the fridge.
Speaker 1: I quit drinking. The reason I want to get drunk
Speaker 1: because I played on the radio. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was moved by the song. Yeah, I still look out
Speaker 1: for the car when I'm driving around town, and I'm
Speaker 1: still not quite sure what to do with my hands.
Speaker 1: It's in a crowd. There's a lot I can't remember,
Speaker 1: and a lot I can't forget. One silver bulleting in
Speaker 1: the chamber, and I'm playing rush Rule without being the Friends,
Speaker 1: Last of twelves so Survivor, My last all night the
Speaker 1: back of the bottom how Ruled that all. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be so real man. Uh. It just touches on a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, fears, insecurities that I deal with.
Speaker 1: And like you know, you're asking, you know, why were
Speaker 1: you drinking that much? Uh? You know my wife has
Speaker 1: never never threatened to leave me, but she probably should
Speaker 1: have several times you know in those in those in
Speaker 1: that time period, you know, when I was drinking that
Speaker 1: much and uh there you know there was there's so
Speaker 1: many lines in that song that the front. My one
Speaker 1: song line, one lyric in that song that I feel
Speaker 1: like describes me and something that I that I deal
Speaker 1: with is the first one about ranting to your mama, church, mama,
Speaker 1: praying for you. Now. Well like I'm just I just
Speaker 1: care what people think, you know, and I and I
Speaker 1: and I and my own worst critic as well. And
Speaker 1: drinking uh made me care less, you know. Uh that
Speaker 1: was one positive about drinking. You know obviously don't you
Speaker 1: don't need to drink to do that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I I feel pressure, you know, to to be a
Speaker 1: certain just I don't know, to succeed, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: prem yourself for myself. But but you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: when I told lady's parents we were coming here. I
Speaker 1: feel the eyes, you know, I feel the I've ill
Speaker 1: people saying, are You're crazy, You're not gonna make it,
Speaker 1: You're not good enough. You know you're not this And
Speaker 1: I don't want to believe him, but I kind of do.
Speaker 1: And when I'm drinking, I definitely don't. I don't care
Speaker 1: what they think. Um, but that song is so true,
Speaker 1: you know the line about the hands. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: the first show that I played without a beer, I
Speaker 1: just felt completely naked. I mean, I've never felt stupider
Speaker 1: in my life because you know, so many years of
Speaker 1: strumming that last chord and reaching for that beer. I
Speaker 1: was to a point where just holding a beer before
Speaker 1: I even open the thing it gave it made me
Speaker 1: feel a sense of security. You know. That's kind of
Speaker 1: where I was with drinking. But yeah, it's true. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: but again I will say, I mean, Lenny, it's not true.
Speaker 1: I didn't lose you know, my wife, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: she said many tears, you know, talking to me about it,
Speaker 1: and I was at a point went where I admitted,
Speaker 1: you know, she would say things like she didn't say
Speaker 1: things anymore like do you have a problem. I would
Speaker 1: admit I wasn't in denial. At the point when I quit,
Speaker 1: I said, I do have a problem, and I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go without it. You know, I need
Speaker 1: this right now for me, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: move over to the comedian. Yeah, your dark songs like
Speaker 1: resonate with me, like a hardcore like being in the fridge.
Speaker 1: You know, I come from a family of addicts and alcoholics,
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, man, just I just I
Speaker 1: feel the honesty in these songs um with the comedian,
Speaker 1: which I wanna play right here. It's too bad. Being
Speaker 1: funny and being happy. He ain't the same thing. It
Speaker 1: ain't the same thing. It's so sad. Some of the
Speaker 1: longlist hearts in the crowd of the most entoting such
Speaker 1: a strange keys to the ones who makes laugh to
Speaker 1: keep themselves from crying, gets to the ones who makes
Speaker 1: laugh to keep themselves from cry, Like I heard the
Speaker 1: song and it's gonna tell you it's like it can
Speaker 1: and I have issues like that, like where it's you know,
Speaker 1: I want to wake people laugh so they can't see
Speaker 1: how sad. And it's the process that I've been dealing
Speaker 1: with for a long time, and it's that's the front
Speaker 1: you try to people laugh, That's where you find love.
Speaker 1: That's where I always was able to find love. Like
Speaker 1: let maybe the gay that makes people laugh, because that's
Speaker 1: I'll find the love from that. I have trouble accepting love,
Speaker 1: of trouble giving love just from the environment. You know.
Speaker 1: You and I talked about as a nature or nurture,
Speaker 1: like we have that conversation like away from stuff, and
Speaker 1: for me, I think it's it's definitely nurture the love thing.
Speaker 1: And I heard that song, I was like, dear God,
Speaker 1: are you writing songs from my brain? Like every song
Speaker 1: to you would sing, I'll be like God. So the
Speaker 1: comedian is that about a front of your specifically? So
Speaker 1: he went to high school with them? Yeah, it's about
Speaker 1: a friend I grew up with and he did not,
Speaker 1: uh commit suicide. Hey, but he died at an early
Speaker 1: age and he was that guy, uh you know, just hilarious, um,
Speaker 1: but did have issues, you know, and as we all do.
Speaker 1: You know, I think so many people can can relate
Speaker 1: with that song. You know. It's that we all try
Speaker 1: to find that affirmation. That's never really enough, but it
Speaker 1: sure helps, you know. It doesn't sustain any any long
Speaker 1: term healing or fix us. You know. It's like drinking
Speaker 1: a beer. And it does make me feel good immediately,
Speaker 1: you know, and as does me performing on stage and
Speaker 1: getting that laughing. It makes me feel like I just
Speaker 1: jumped out of a plane. You know. But when you
Speaker 1: get back into green room and you all by yourself,
Speaker 1: all the real stuff comes back, you know, when you
Speaker 1: gotta do it again. But yeah, that that song, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad a guy named Matt Jenkins and Josh Jenkins
Speaker 1: they wrote it with me, and they were insistent that
Speaker 1: that we that we do that song together, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad you appreciate it. I'm glad people. Yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: and and we'll get to the more of beat stuff
Speaker 1: because you have a sound that is not like anyone else.
Speaker 1: But I just you know, it's my podcast. I talk
Speaker 1: about whatever I want. So those are like, those are
Speaker 1: the songs that hit me hard. And I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's like speed songs a lot of times don't speaking
Speaker 1: real human words anymore. And when you do feel something
Speaker 1: out then in regardless of sonically what it sounds like,
Speaker 1: it being authentic still cuts through no matter what's behind it?
Speaker 1: Something for real still cuts through regardless of the format
Speaker 1: the instruments, like realness cuts through. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I felt from like stars and the Comedian and beer
Speaker 1: in the fridge. And but then you know, you got
Speaker 1: stuff like break the internet, shake a little bit of sha,
Speaker 1: shake a little bit, how did your dollar? You make?
Speaker 1: All the stuff in your shack? And then beat on tables,
Speaker 1: beat on the wall, slammed the door, all these sounds.
Speaker 1: It's you in that microphone and you're beaten cups and
Speaker 1: sounds it. Let's I got a keyboard, win break back.
Speaker 1: Then you're doing all these bats B G V maniac.
Speaker 1: But I got the record. As you're cutting this and
Speaker 1: you're playing it for people, what are they saying to you, Like, man,
Speaker 1: it don'tnna work? Or is it gonna be great? Or
Speaker 1: what they what are they saying? Well, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: my people at my publishing company, they saw me obviously,
Speaker 1: uh you know, to write songs, but wanted me to.
Speaker 1: They sign me with the intention of me being an artist.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think at first they thought, hey,
Speaker 1: he's gonna write that one, you know, that dangerous one
Speaker 1: on the country. Ready, you know that country radio slaps
Speaker 1: Slam first released bah Boom, and what happened was I
Speaker 1: kind of got off therapeutic you know, on them, like
Speaker 1: you talk about Comedian and stuff like that. Those feel
Speaker 1: so good for me to write, you know, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just great to get that stuff off of your chest
Speaker 1: and tell everybody that makes me feel better. And so
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing with those those dark ones
Speaker 1: and then the happy ones. That's just kind of how
Speaker 1: that's how I want to party, you know, that's the
Speaker 1: stuff I want to play live. And they definitely were.
Speaker 1: What what happened once I started turning and turning them
Speaker 1: in and my team didn't see really a fast track.
Speaker 1: Hey this is going to country radio, you know obviously
Speaker 1: from the sound. But they just love them, you know,
Speaker 1: they liked they loved the song. They found themselves listening
Speaker 1: to them, um and cheat and I know it's cheesy,
Speaker 1: but I even found myself I would listen to them
Speaker 1: like they're not me. I'd be like, I just liked
Speaker 1: this song the comedian, you know, yeah money which such
Speaker 1: base on my body on a honey you make me
Speaker 1: want to check time cruise in my mind, he said,
Speaker 1: due to be I say that's something me. I scrubbing
Speaker 1: the front seat, telling me hanging out like Mike, what
Speaker 1: dia fun of all? This project was the first song
Speaker 1: you wrote. So the first song on this project that
Speaker 1: was written was either say sober you broke up with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know which came first, the chicken or the
Speaker 1: egg um, but yeah, those those those two you broke
Speaker 1: up with me was the one where we all went, Hey,
Speaker 1: keep doing that, because that's something about that, this unique
Speaker 1: and digestible. And this is a single now if you
Speaker 1: broke up to see me? But hey, if you broke
Speaker 1: up me, it was can I say you broke up me?
Speaker 1: What's funny? Is I remember texting you because the song
Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, you know, you produced it yourself, and
Speaker 1: I tell you us like, hey, or the new version,
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty slightly different parts. It's like more radio
Speaker 1: palatable girl. And your response was, I'm listening to it
Speaker 1: like I never heard of before. And you can't grasp
Speaker 1: my party with yore Sorry Sam, wha, he's just don't
Speaker 1: be raining on my money, gop rain Oh a minute,
Speaker 1: I ain't eat my face to listen to yogio tripping.
Speaker 1: Y'all folking and girl you made yo man and then
Speaker 1: on me and who sim down to night and nobody
Speaker 1: making you watch me getting that it's good. So that's
Speaker 1: a single now and you're working out, you know. The
Speaker 1: interesting thing is is that And I'll just talk about
Speaker 1: my listeners for a second, because I can always tell
Speaker 1: by my listeners if it's a suppose the right way,
Speaker 1: what will work, because all I gotta do is play something.
Speaker 1: My listeners are no bs and they don't like it.
Speaker 1: They just don't. They don't do what I say. I
Speaker 1: just try to give them good options that they probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to hear other places. Like, Honest to god,
Speaker 1: I can't make them do anything. But what I try
Speaker 1: to do in my job is go, this is different
Speaker 1: or this is really good, and you're not going to
Speaker 1: hear this anywhere else, and if you like it, then
Speaker 1: consume it. However, and I played that song, and I
Speaker 1: looked at an iTunes before I played it because I
Speaker 1: like to see what happens. And I give it one
Speaker 1: full spin. It was a three. I played it one
Speaker 1: time with an hour and half went to thirty eight
Speaker 1: or something, and I was for me, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: like for me, it wasn't like, man, Bobby, I told
Speaker 1: you you knew what was good. It was God if
Speaker 1: people can get out of that box a little bit
Speaker 1: and see this is one spin. People reacted to this song,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I've tinkered with it a bit
Speaker 1: more more. But now it's kind of like, let's let's
Speaker 1: let the label see what they can do. But it's
Speaker 1: gotta be cool to see people hear it and go, wow,
Speaker 1: I heard it now, I like it. Let me buy that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some kind of bit like like okay, letybe,
Speaker 1: there's something to this. Do you feel that? Oh? Man? Yes?
Speaker 1: And uh, you know you have. The first question you're
Speaker 1: asking was what it What was it mean for you
Speaker 1: to to be on a label? And I just didn't
Speaker 1: It's all every day it's a good day. I'm not
Speaker 1: kidding though. I mean every that that day we celebrated.
Speaker 1: I celebrate everything right now. And that is amazing that
Speaker 1: that that I woke up that day and you know,
Speaker 1: you play my song one time and it does that
Speaker 1: and and yes, man, I mean you know, you work
Speaker 1: so hard on music and you just think it's so
Speaker 1: good and and you just then he produced and it's
Speaker 1: so awesome. And then he put out put it out there,
Speaker 1: and you're like, now it's time to see. You know,
Speaker 1: the critics are paying and using their criticizing with their money,
Speaker 1: and when they pay it, they're not criticized. And when
Speaker 1: they don't pay it the right and so now just
Speaker 1: to see I mean, we had a sick first week
Speaker 1: when we blew it up and it was awesome and
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it is so it is so gratifying,
Speaker 1: uh you know that people and people liked it like
Speaker 1: they're liking it. I mean, hey, another song too that
Speaker 1: I saw a track and I was like, how can
Speaker 1: this song even be a song? He just by looking
Speaker 1: at the name of it. Oh, I was like my yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, he wrote a song about Halloween. And
Speaker 1: I remember because I think it was on the second
Speaker 1: the set, but how long was on the second age
Speaker 1: break the internet? So Halloween. I was like, well, let
Speaker 1: me even see what this song is about Halloween? Like
Speaker 1: what is this about that? Dude? One? Like one of
Speaker 1: the deepest songs and beautiful way because that's like I
Speaker 1: get to take off my costume. You're talking about your wife? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then knock knock on yo though the mask I
Speaker 1: ye shouted like glasses on the phone, and it was
Speaker 1: like Halloween. It's all the people opportund rest in peace, restes,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, so deep, so good, it's all the
Speaker 1: people appetenderess tmties best pies. What's it like playing that
Speaker 1: for your wife? Oh? Man? Uh awesome because she's so numb.
Speaker 1: You know, love songs in twelve years, three or four
Speaker 1: pub deals, you write a ton of love songs and
Speaker 1: you just you come home and you're like, did I
Speaker 1: get you? Did it? Did this one get you? And? Uh? None?
Speaker 1: None of them? You know. God her like this one
Speaker 1: because we dated in high school and she knew that's
Speaker 1: what she meant to me immediately, you know, right off
Speaker 1: the bat. I was a real insecure kid trying to
Speaker 1: fit in and mobile, and then I met her and
Speaker 1: she just saw the side of me that she really
Speaker 1: fell in love with. And uh that's yeah, one of
Speaker 1: her favorite songs for sure. We're talking about this sleep
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Speaker 1: and say you heard it here on the Bobby Bones
Speaker 1: Show Bobby Cast, and so that's there and there. That's good.
Speaker 1: I like listen. I like having sponsors because that's how
Speaker 1: you know people are listening to the we we started
Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, think anybody even gonna listen, like
Speaker 1: Mike d and I this is no but this is
Speaker 1: our equipment, Like this is just stuff that we wrangled
Speaker 1: up and we started doing this little podcast and we
Speaker 1: were talking to people like, for example, Katelyn one of
Speaker 1: the first ones, he was on your It's just Caitlin
Speaker 1: right now. I was like, hey, like come over the
Speaker 1: house because I'm gonna do this thing. I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: to artists, talk to songwriters. And then now we got
Speaker 1: to sleep number sponsor and this thing. But so uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's cool. It's like, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: You put all the stuff out for free. At first, well,
Speaker 1: who thought of that? Why was that the plan? So
Speaker 1: that was thought of by my manager, Rob Robert Carlton,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of famous now, but he, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he heard my stuff and like we were talking earlier,
Speaker 1: he heard those songs that I was building in the
Speaker 1: shack and he said, you know, he ain't gonna fit
Speaker 1: country radio right now, but these will build a fan base.
Speaker 1: People will share these, they will love them, they will
Speaker 1: connect to them. And so that's what we did. We
Speaker 1: just started putting them out, started touring a little bit,
Speaker 1: got a couple of opening slots you know last year,
Speaker 1: and places to go play them, got the loop, started
Speaker 1: learning how to do that because just wanted them to
Speaker 1: sound as close as I could to these tracks. And
Speaker 1: that's why we started putting out free music. And it
Speaker 1: was so exhilarating, was so therapeutic for me. It obviously
Speaker 1: made me a better writer. I feel like they just
Speaker 1: keep getting better and better. I'm already working on number three.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that lives, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as label stuff goes, but they will let me continue
Speaker 1: the eight tracks, and so I'm excited about those. They'll
Speaker 1: just keep coming for me. I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 1: you and the music that you mate. Yeah, welcome, shut up.
Speaker 1: I became a huge fan way earlier, Like I was
Speaker 1: obsessed with it and I would say on the radio,
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the biggest albums a year? And I'd
Speaker 1: be like you know, I'll played Repcord from Urban a lot,
Speaker 1: Maren and Walker Hays and I was and and I
Speaker 1: would mean it from the bottom of the heart. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't like you and I were talking every day.
Speaker 1: We were I don't even know if we were talking.
Speaker 1: We were maybe exchange the text occasionally. But I was
Speaker 1: just a fan. Like I was just a fan because
Speaker 1: I love people who try things that aren't the same,
Speaker 1: even if they fall on their face, Like I love
Speaker 1: people that take shots falling forward. It's still it's still
Speaker 1: moving forward. And so one I like the music and too,
Speaker 1: I enjoy the fact that you were trying something new,
Speaker 1: and so I would say that stuff like magazine to
Speaker 1: do interviews like what you let's do most I love
Speaker 1: Dirk's album. I love the Walker Hayes album like it
Speaker 1: was just that's just because it was like, what's the
Speaker 1: most thing that you playing? And so something that shook
Speaker 1: me a bit. And I'm jaded first to admit it,
Speaker 1: because I've been doing this now and just in this
Speaker 1: capacity for four years and I've had Garth Brooks sit
Speaker 1: beside me right and play, and I've had you name
Speaker 1: it's it's it's great, and it never loses the fact
Speaker 1: that it's great. But when when you eat Filet mignon
Speaker 1: every day, it becomes kind of normal. So it's like
Speaker 1: I enjoy it and I still appreciate it, but rarely
Speaker 1: the things shake me. Occasionally, things like really, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I get a message from one of
Speaker 1: my friends, she works at my record label, and it's
Speaker 1: Mega boardman and she says, uh, do you hear this
Speaker 1: song called Payne Walker Hay sent on the email. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm not on his email list. I'm
Speaker 1: not anybody's email us. I didn't know he had to
Speaker 1: email us. Like I just listened to the music and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, she goes, you should probably hear it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well send me the email, and
Speaker 1: so like I'm gonna tell you eyeball to eyeball, I
Speaker 1: just sat in my car and I was like, to
Speaker 1: have someone you're such a huge fan of like even
Speaker 1: mention you and that song. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: like crazy in my life. Honestly, it means the world
Speaker 1: for you to say that, because when you put somebody
Speaker 1: in a song, you're like, are they gonna hate? Like
Speaker 1: is this gonna suck for them. It it was. It
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing. It was a great I have
Speaker 1: trouble with emotion, feeling at trouble letting myself feel emotion
Speaker 1: because I feel like any good emotion is gonna be gone,
Speaker 1: and any good emotion has to be met with equal bad.
Speaker 1: So I try not to have good emotion like it's
Speaker 1: a Listen, I'm nuts, right, I had great emotion from
Speaker 1: the song man, that's awesome and so and you can't
Speaker 1: do this. This is online, but this is pain from
Speaker 1: walking around here you go, mate. Two thousand sixteen, seven
Speaker 1: something in the morning, I was driving when a dream
Speaker 1: Comes True came through my high the factory speakers and
Speaker 1: on me. Bobby Bones played a song and I wrote
Speaker 1: about lonely beer and a fresh it's one of my doctors.
Speaker 1: What you hear is out felt from the broken in
Speaker 1: my heart was about addiction, love, loss and recovery. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I only wrote it because I had to get it
Speaker 1: out of me, not for Nashville, not for radio, for
Speaker 1: nobody bought me. And maybe that trouble so pressing rewind,
Speaker 1: wrestling demons like mine looking for company in this design
Speaker 1: that doesn't really feel so brand all the time. I
Speaker 1: didn't known because iteels so good, feel so grand all
Speaker 1: the time, Dan, I didn't know because feels so good
Speaker 1: like I get your box out listen to. So I
Speaker 1: guess I want to know about it because well, I
Speaker 1: never asked you about the song because I was kind
Speaker 1: of embarrassed to do it, because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. I was embarrassed. So did you know
Speaker 1: I was gonna play your song that morning? Because I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't tell anybody I'm gonna play their music. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, when we've we've talked about this, Um, I
Speaker 1: just feel weird, you know, asking you know people to
Speaker 1: do that. You know, I honestly you know that that
Speaker 1: song is in that category of of comedian uh leadless starr.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody asked me to write about that. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had to, you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: a special moment for me. I was out in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, um picking up Actually I had my
Speaker 1: loop worked on in close to Murfreesboro, so I was
Speaker 1: just driving when you played beer in the fridge, and man,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't another one of those moments where you
Speaker 1: gotta pinch yourself and and I was like I can't
Speaker 1: believe what is happening to me at that at this
Speaker 1: point in my life. You know, I got six kids
Speaker 1: I could barely feed, uh, you know a year ago,
Speaker 1: and now, uh my work tapes rocking on the radio,
Speaker 1: you know, and Beer in the Fridge is a naked song.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the truth. There's like three things on
Speaker 1: the track. Um, you know, so I'm here and Keith
Speaker 1: Urban blow it up and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I hear just you know always and it just rocked me. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: I have a lot of those moments where I like
Speaker 1: pull over and cry. I mean, I freaking love music
Speaker 1: and it it has so much emotional power over me.
Speaker 1: But I have never felt like I did when I
Speaker 1: listened to that song. Uh. And so I had to
Speaker 1: write about that moment and everything that it made me
Speaker 1: think of, you know, how far my life had changed
Speaker 1: pretty quick, you know, And so I just blurted it
Speaker 1: all out in that song. And you were obviously a
Speaker 1: part of that story. Um. So thanks. It was a
Speaker 1: great business. But honestly, like you said, I mean, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, there were moments where I was like
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to release it. Like
Speaker 1: I was also like, do I just put like a DJ?
Speaker 1: I didn't know whether whether you would appreciate having your
Speaker 1: name and it or I was like, he's gonna think
Speaker 1: this is just a business move. But honestly, I've rent
Speaker 1: you know, we're running by my team as I was
Speaker 1: creating the song, and they were like, man, you mentioned Mike,
Speaker 1: that guy you worked with a Costco. You mentioned your
Speaker 1: wife and your kid, and you you know the the
Speaker 1: song is honest about every detail. There's not one. I've
Speaker 1: always We've always laughed because I'm like, somebody's gonna ask
Speaker 1: about that song and be like can you can you
Speaker 1: tell me about it? And I'm just gonna be like, well,
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, so you know, just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: recite this song because there's really nothing else to say.
Speaker 1: It's just the on truth down to the Costco card
Speaker 1: in the freaking console. I believe you too, because one
Speaker 1: you didn't put it out like out out, Yeah it
Speaker 1: was you sit down an email. It's still up there
Speaker 1: for you can't even like stream it. Yeah you gotta
Speaker 1: get um it's nowhere and you know, and I hope
Speaker 1: you eventually, if you put it up, it's all good.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe anybody at any time for any reason.
Speaker 1: I believe you because I just I don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I don't believe anybody like you. Know how it is
Speaker 1: around here. Yeah, when times are good, everybody's your friend.
Speaker 1: And when times aren't good, and no, I want anything
Speaker 1: to do with you. And I do know that, man,
Speaker 1: And that's that's a that's the nature of this beast.
Speaker 1: And so you got to find the people. And this
Speaker 1: isn't just our business, this is like a life thing.
Speaker 1: You have to find the people that when times are
Speaker 1: on that stock market downtick, that are right by your side,
Speaker 1: and you keep them by your side when that stock
Speaker 1: market goes back up because it's gonna go back down again.
Speaker 1: And so those are the people just ride, they just ride,
Speaker 1: let him ride with you, and you ride with them.
Speaker 1: And that's how you find the people, like the people
Speaker 1: that are with you when it's down, or the people
Speaker 1: that you just keep on surrounding yourself. Right, And there's
Speaker 1: like a few and that's it. I know, we had
Speaker 1: this whole conversation like off Mike days ago. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's been cool. It's been cool getting to
Speaker 1: know you because again, I'm just a huge fan and
Speaker 1: that's why I went. And I was like, I was
Speaker 1: doing this whole stand up comedy tour and you know,
Speaker 1: I can ask whoever I want to open, And I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I would love to freakin Walker Hayes
Speaker 1: come out because I just want to watch a blay
Speaker 1: like no other reason, Like I just want Walker to
Speaker 1: come out. And then in the middle of all this
Speaker 1: to see like you popping, like just popping. Is it
Speaker 1: now where you're starting to be cool and people are
Speaker 1: now coming out going, hey, cool guy, you want to
Speaker 1: work together? Oh yeah, I bet that happens. And you
Speaker 1: know what, that's okay because you're gonna trust as far
Speaker 1: as you can throw them, but you can still use
Speaker 1: each other for for whatever advantage you're working together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, I'm ashamed to say this, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've done that to somebody in this town,
Speaker 1: you know, And I try to remember that that we're
Speaker 1: all capable of that. And um, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of people are definitely coming out of the woodwork. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's tough. You know, sometimes it's tough to accept
Speaker 1: that you need the people coming out of the woodwork, though,
Speaker 1: is its exactly you need them. It's just used them
Speaker 1: for what they're there to be used for. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: they're not the people that are completely down, but they're
Speaker 1: down for what you need them for, and you're down
Speaker 1: for what you need them for. Just remember I didn't
Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork. I was ware. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like hiding in the woods. I was waiting,
Speaker 1: like I was up in a tree looking down. I
Speaker 1: was like, you see Walker. Oh man, it's been good.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed like hanging and talking. No, I dide, man,
Speaker 1: thank thanks for having me. I feel like I've been
Speaker 1: on out. It is like it's therapeutic. And here's a
Speaker 1: little something. This is called Walker singing to the Duggers.
Speaker 1: Would you like to talk to us? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: sing it to the Duggers? You told me from the show.
Speaker 1: You tell me what this is? Hey, guys, Hey, how's
Speaker 1: it going? You guys like music? No way? You got
Speaker 1: a second? You have the episode? Yeah, so go ahead
Speaker 1: and tell me before I play what exactly? Okay, So
Speaker 1: this is uh S is when Derek and Jill I
Speaker 1: think is her name, got engaged and how did you
Speaker 1: end up on this show? Okay, so there The producer
Speaker 1: of the show lives near me and called me one day.
Speaker 1: He didn't hear yeah, you heard me on the back porch.
Speaker 1: Now he actually, Man, he was just like, we're thinking
Speaker 1: about doing this segment. If you can give us a song,
Speaker 1: I can convince the network that they need to do this.
Speaker 1: And I say, man, tell me about their love story.
Speaker 1: He was like, it's really cool. They went all the
Speaker 1: way to Catman Do, but they lived, you know, super close,
Speaker 1: but went all the way to another country and met
Speaker 1: each other here. So I just wrote this song and uh,
Speaker 1: he was like, boom, that's perfect for their uh engagement.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Hey, guys, Hey, how's it going. You
Speaker 1: guys like music? You got a second? I got a
Speaker 1: song that reminded me music. Hey, that'd be great. Will
Speaker 1: you go up about thirty show minutes down the street.
Speaker 1: But we had to go eight thousand miles away to
Speaker 1: meet I'm not sure what the Lord was thinking taking
Speaker 1: us all the way to cat Man Do, but I
Speaker 1: know he was thinking of me when he made you
Speaker 1: so and as beautiful as that is, the acting is
Speaker 1: first of all, has anyone ever in the history of
Speaker 1: questions answered the word no till you do? Like, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you like music? It's a safe question. Nah, not
Speaker 1: really all right man? Hey do you like food? No?
Speaker 1: And they just listen to the acting here, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up? Even the Hey guys, it's pretty bad, just
Speaker 1: like sitting in Hey guys, Hey, how's it going? God?
Speaker 1: This is awful the acting. Nobody wrote a script. I
Speaker 1: remember meeting with him and I talked to him because
Speaker 1: he knew he was in on it. I would hope. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we botched it big time. But she was still, Hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going. You guys like music? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. How lucky because of all
Speaker 1: the people in the world, they both liked music, and
Speaker 1: you're lucky that they both did. Man, it was a dude.
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm no actor, come on hey man' uh?
Speaker 1: And I haven't been written a song about your whole life? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have a second to stop for me? While
Speaker 1: I played this whole long I read about your life.
Speaker 1: This is totally random. By the way, Do you like music?
Speaker 1: I've I've actually auditioned for some stuff and failed. Big time.
Speaker 1: I mean acting is talk about putting your guard down.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a scary thing, kind of like your
Speaker 1: comedy thing. We were talking about before we went out.
Speaker 1: I was asking you if you're a friend, it's all vulnerable.
Speaker 1: It's all vulnerable. Music, vulnerable, comedy, vulnerable acting, it's all.
Speaker 1: If you're creative, you are vulnerable because people are choosing
Speaker 1: if they like or don't like what you're doing, and
Speaker 1: you need them to do that. That's vulnerable. You need
Speaker 1: someone to like or not like you. Hopefully they like you.
Speaker 1: But you don't create, so people don't care. You create
Speaker 1: so hopefully people care, and then when they don't, you
Speaker 1: realize I didn't create good enough or or at the time,
Speaker 1: I didn't create good enough. So just as you get
Speaker 1: up and you sing songs about your life, they are
Speaker 1: very vulnerable. I get up and I tell stories, and
Speaker 1: the entire light, the entire him is focused on my
Speaker 1: mouth hole. And that's it. But I mean, really that's it.
Speaker 1: But I thrive off that the same way that you're
Speaker 1: doing writing music. I thrive off of just and again
Speaker 1: it comes back to just being like needing that love too,
Speaker 1: like that that's that's finding love. For me. Hey, go out.
Speaker 1: I need that. I need that love, so I fight
Speaker 1: for it. Have terrible relationships, God terrible. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. No, I don't think so it's not
Speaker 1: it's not in the moment, not right now. This is
Speaker 1: this is not a Bob. This is not a Bobby.
Speaker 1: Bobby casts a Walker podcast. All right, so downlow, you
Speaker 1: broke up with me. It's only saw him that you
Speaker 1: can download right now. Yeah, we need to do nobody
Speaker 1: making you watch. It's not good. It is. God is
Speaker 1: difficult to see me. But hey, you broke up with me.
Speaker 1: It was you broke up So Walker, depending on when
Speaker 1: you hear this, will be out on the road with
Speaker 1: me until May. Walker Hayes dot com website to um whenever.
Speaker 1: What's Fun is on on tour? Nikita Carmen it comes
Speaker 1: down and sings Halloween with you? Is it? Like she's
Speaker 1: so good, right, and like nobody even knows about her
Speaker 1: really yet that's weird to me. She's so because she's
Speaker 1: so good. But they're going to you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull her once and you know she I just
Speaker 1: met her on Skype and I was like, you gotta
Speaker 1: move to the States. Really oh yeah. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know your story. I don't know. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We were just looking for someone, like I needed a
Speaker 1: girl in the band so I could like write funny
Speaker 1: stuff from a girl perspective, raise women. And so I
Speaker 1: went through and I she couldn't find anybody. So I
Speaker 1: gave up, and from was like, hey, you should. They're
Speaker 1: just going Australia. She's not trying to get to the
Speaker 1: States and be a singer songwright over here, but she
Speaker 1: plays some pubs and I was like, oh okay. So
Speaker 1: I skyped with her and thinks like ten am. I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can you hear your guitar in the office,
Speaker 1: and she wouldn't got her guitar. Scyped with her like
Speaker 1: an hour later and she played on skype. That's the
Speaker 1: only time I ever said, ever seen and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, you're you're so good. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't known about that. And I was like, can
Speaker 1: you get on a plane in the year in three days?
Speaker 1: And she got on a plane quarter job, moved here.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any murder live. She lived with me
Speaker 1: for like two and a half months or so, and
Speaker 1: so and I was just like you, just just right right.
Speaker 1: She's just writing. She got a publishing deal. She you know,
Speaker 1: you know, but she's so good yeahs and people will
Speaker 1: find her. I wonder five every day we're talking about
Speaker 1: dude with me. She's sick. She uh yeah, she's like
Speaker 1: two ft tall. Here we go, Nikita Karmen. This is
Speaker 1: the first a place with this m M. I didn't
Speaker 1: cry when he said I'm not the one because I
Speaker 1: ain't want to come undone. I hear my head up
Speaker 1: high and bit my tongue. I let the goodbye setting
Speaker 1: like us couldn't stop thinking about too of us and
Speaker 1: heartbreaks hard to rise above. I'll take the high road
Speaker 1: and I'll keep my cool Brett as soon won't be
Speaker 1: thinking about you first than it so, my friend, she's
Speaker 1: not that pretty. You don't look how for s happy
Speaker 1: as you do with me. She's wearing that trendy Tom
Speaker 1: Petty t shirt. I'll stop being petty by your American girl.
Speaker 1: The first time he was my week's wage. One Guila
Speaker 1: Christen and a lipstick on the bathroom mirror, and damn
Speaker 1: gonna wake up on the feel just fine. I just
Speaker 1: gotta go a little out of my mind first, guys, like,
Speaker 1: I know you talk about she like calls that a
Speaker 1: EP or she's just like those are all worked tape.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I believe if you were
Speaker 1: to do that whole play a thing, that joker would
Speaker 1: jump off the charge. I mean that song reminds me
Speaker 1: of like something Lord, the royal person, the person. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, she's legitimately like fantastic. I'm
Speaker 1: looking over here. It's like other artists. You may know
Speaker 1: if it's her, Ready for the list, walk ahead, Lindsay
Speaker 1: l my my girlfriend, Slash her roommate now Brandon Ray,
Speaker 1: who is like they're one of the greatest, and like,
Speaker 1: that's another you can sing his brains off. The raging idiots,
Speaker 1: Caitlin Smith, Natalie Himby, that's her people you may know. God, yeah, Walker,
Speaker 1: good luck, man, dude, thank you. I need it. I'm
Speaker 1: enjoying this, appreciate you have. I mean, man, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Relaxing the chair, it is I don't want to get up.
Speaker 1: He walked in the house, it was like, this is
Speaker 1: where you live. You know what, though, seriously, you need
Speaker 1: to let somebody do a Bobby cast on you. I
Speaker 1: do that every morning. It's told the Boby b Show.
Speaker 1: But you need somebody. I wrote a book. You need
Speaker 1: someone to ask no questions about uh personal stuff like
Speaker 1: Amy kind of did a bit, right Amy. Yeah we
Speaker 1: don't with Amy, she did a bit. But I wrote
Speaker 1: a book. Good. I'm good. I got on yeah, second one.
Speaker 1: I talked about that maybe yeah, but yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Life's good for me. I'm the thing about me. It's
Speaker 1: about Walker. I'm a huge fan, like die hard fan,
Speaker 1: like as legitimately as possible. And I kept you from
Speaker 1: this for a while because it was like everybody was like,
Speaker 1: all right, enough for Walker ahead talk about Walker Hayes,
Speaker 1: like you just wait. I have a tweet that I
Speaker 1: say from like seven months ago that was like in
Speaker 1: a year. But it's gonna be like, why did I
Speaker 1: sleep on Walker Hays. I save that tweet. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show everybody one day and be like I told you
Speaker 1: good to see you man. Thanks. All right, Walker Hays
Speaker 1: download anything he puts out, I demand it. All right, good, alright, Mike,
Speaker 1: we're out. What episode was that thirty six? All Right?
Speaker 1: Walker Hayes at Walker Hayes right dot com. H A.
Speaker 1: Y E. S. Walk from me on Instagram. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: walker Heights on Instagram and Twitter at walkers dot com. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's out with me doing all the music and I
Speaker 1: do with the jokes until may have you announced the
Speaker 1: other thing yet? Don't know? Okay, so then in mind
Speaker 1: other stuff coming down, other stuff coming for us. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see you, uh siting, Bye, buddy. You can hearly
Speaker 1: keep this STI thing in the back up forgot to
Speaker 1: turn her part down anyway, by it