1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Monster Territory, brought to you by the 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network. We have a very special guest, Chris Catillo. 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, my friend. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: How you doing. I'm good man, how are you? 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, appreciate that, my friend. And first 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: question of the day. Do we have our future shortstop 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: for the Red Sox? Raffie Devers taking ground balls at 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: shortstop yesterday? 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: What's going on there? 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was not there, but I saw the video. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: And you know, early in the year when he was 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: taking reps at third base, someone told me it was 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: about him just you know, keeping the same pregame routine, 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: doing some conditioning, you know, getting on his feet before games. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: He did it in you know, Texas and Baltimore on 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: that first road trip, and then he kind of stopped. 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: And so yesterday, of course, it's a big story whenever 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: we see him with a glove, because we haven't seen 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: that in game action. You know, obviously he's that short 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: and Tom Karen had a facetious tweet about, look, he's 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: near first base with a glove wearing like a kid's glove. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: Often Foul Territory, So I think people took it a 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: little bit more than they should have. But you know, 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: status quo there, and I don't think he's gonna be 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: playing shorts. As much as Trevor's story has struggled for 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: the last six weeks or so, I don't think that 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: was an option. 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I actually did look at the glove 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: and I zoomed in. I'm like, is that a kid's glove? 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that did you just get that from 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: target down the street? I don't know, But speaking of 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Raffi on a serious note, right, that's been a big 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: talking point this entire year. You know, after Tristan Cassis 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: went down, RAFFI, who do you take over? At first? 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, that whole thing blew up. You know, Greg 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Breslo asking him to play first base. Corus seemed kind 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: of split on the whole thing. Have you heard any 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: sort of an update with that or is it kind 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of the same, you know, status quo. 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we wrote on Friday that you know, there's a 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: growing contingent in the Red Sox organization that you know 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't think that this is going 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: to happen. You know, I had one person tell me 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: the other day you know, he's not playing defense this year. 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: I had another person later on say, yeah, there might 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: still be some hope, but I think the way they're 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: looking at it right now, you know, they didn't even 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: approach him about going to play third. You know, they 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: immediately called up Meyer, which was a bold move, of course, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: to move him to a position he's not familiar with. 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: And at first base, you know, they can roll forward 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: with Abraham Toro, who's the reincarnation of Babe Ruth right now, 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: and Roming Gonzalez, who is obviously back. And I think 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: that can get you to the deadline in the perfect world. 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: And if they're. 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 3: Playing better, they're in contention, maybe they go and try 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: to get a real upgrade, a real starter over those guys. 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: But I don't think they're counting on it. I don't 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: think they're counting on devors, you know, playing those positions either. 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: One. 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: You know, if we get there this afternoon and he's 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: actually taking ground balls at first base, the reality of 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: the situation is if he goes to them and says, hey, 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: it's been almost a month, I've sat on this, I've 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: thought about it, let's try it. Then you know, my 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: two reactions are well, this whole story has changed and 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: they might be willing to try it. And the other 68 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: thing is every day that doesn't happen. It's you know, 69 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: kind of a waste in a way, because if you 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: were going to do it now, why not do it, 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: you know, on May ninth. 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Or May seventh or whatever it was. 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: So my guess the betting odds are on him sticking 74 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: with DH. He's obviously produced at a great level. I 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: think the fact that Meyer looks comfortable at third, and 76 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: that Torah has played well at first, and Romey's now healthy, 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: you know, that kind of ruled out the whole Christian 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: Campbell thing over there, and I think it makes him 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: feel a little bit better. Obviously, Yoshida is still not 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: in a spot where he's close to returning. They shut 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: down his hitting program along with the throwing program, so 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: that stalled everything. He's in a weird place of being 83 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: really slow. Do you want to bring up Roman Anthony 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: to be a DH in the major leagues? Probably not. So, 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: you know, if there was a perfect solution, I think 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: we would have gotten there. But my guess is no 87 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: for now. Of course, you know, it takes one knock 88 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: on Alex Coorra's office and him saying let's do this 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: for that to change. But if I were a betting 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: man and I am on other sports, mostly golf, I 91 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: would say probably not. 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that could be something maybe after this season? 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Have you heard anything about that where maybe down the road? 94 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's too it's tough to till. I 95 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: mean you look at the infield from a you know, 96 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: big picture or the corner infield from a big picture standpoint. 97 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Past this year, you know, the way Alex Bregman was playing, 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: he looked like a guy who was going to opt 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: out and cash in, whether here or somewhere else. The 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 3: injury obviously changes things. But if he comes back, I 101 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: don't know total guests, you know, around the All Star 102 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: Breaker right after, and then has an unbelievable second half 103 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: to go with an unbelievable April and most of May. 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: He still could get a pretty big deal. You know, 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: teams know who he is. It's not like a breakout star. 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: It's a guy who looked like he figured something out 107 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: over the first six weeks. And if he's hot again 108 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: down the stretch, you know you could see him opting out. 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: That leaves third base open, whether for you know, Meyer 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: or whatever. Story's future. Obviously, you know Murky, even though 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: that contract has a lot left. I don't think he's 112 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: going to opt out, but the Red Sox might decide, 113 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: you know, time to move on and make a tough decision. 114 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: Campbell at second, you know, seems like the incumbent there 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: and Costas right like, you don't know, you know what 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: you're going to get out of him when he comes back. 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: He's still in his early twenties, still has all the 118 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: potential in the world, but you know, now he hasn't 119 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: proven it over the course of a couple of seasons, 120 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: and the injuries have been huge, So I think those 121 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: conversations will obviously, wait, there's a lot up in the 122 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: air in the middle of the season. Obviously we're seeing 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: a lot of different things tried out it. It'll be 124 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: interesting to see do they pursue a corner infielder over 125 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: the off season if you know, Bregnant leaves and Cossas 126 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: is slow recovering, do they think about, you know, if 127 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: Bregman leaves, putting Devors back at third, Like, these things 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: cannot be ruled out. I mean, the Bregnant thing was 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: a one year deal that people looked at it as 130 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: a long term thing. It was, and it's a one 131 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: year deal with opt outs. You have to approach that 132 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: as you're going all in for twenty twenty six and 133 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: the decisions all right for twenty twenty five, and the 134 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: decisions are for twenty twenty five. 135 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: And that's what it was with Raffi along the way here. 136 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to bring up one name that 137 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you just mentioned earlier. It's the hottest name and it 138 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: feels like all of sports, at least to me, I'm 139 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: only focused on baseball, but Roman Anthony, right, I mean, 140 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: this guy, he's having an amazing season down at Triple A. 141 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: The numbers are off the charts, the metrics are off 142 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: the charts. I mean, it's gotten to the point where 143 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: they're having to stuff him in a in a Yankee bin. 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how the heck they got a Yankee 145 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: bin for the WU socks, but they're hiding him, that's 146 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: what they got, right, And they're stuffing him in there, 147 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: bringing him to the bus, you know, to get by people. 148 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, very simple question, When the heck is Roman 149 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: Anthony coming up? And what is going on here? 150 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 151 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: We just talked about this on our pod, the Fenway 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: Rundown by the Way, and I Sean McAdam and I 153 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: both you know, are targeting that West Coast trip in 154 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. They're going to Seattle, San Francisco. 155 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: And Anaheim. 156 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: They have a history of breaking in their best prospects 157 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: on the West Coast for some reason, whether you know 158 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: they think it takes the pressure off, whether you know, 159 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, excuse me, but they 160 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: did that with Ben Attendee, Devers, Bogarts dating back sometime 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: obviously we saw Campbell an opening day in a different boat, 162 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: and Meyer in the middle of a double header at home, 163 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: which was a kind of an emergency situation. But you know, 164 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: you kind of look at each series and there's reasons 165 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: why that I think they're they're leaning on. You know, 166 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: this series against the Angels, you're facing two tough lefties. 167 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: Maybe that's not the time to do it. You get 168 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: to the Bronx and I think they're facing at least 169 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: one lefty there. But the Red Sox Yankee series, is 170 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: that the time to do it. I know guys have 171 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: done that in the past, but you know, they're trying 172 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: to find the perfect time to break him in, and 173 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: they also feel like, you know, they didn't have a 174 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: solution at second base. That's why Campbell made the team. 175 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, he was way better than Hamilton and way 176 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: better than obviously von Gresham and guys like that. When 177 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: Bregman went down, they didn't have a better option than 178 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: Meyer at third. He's the guy who could plug in. Now, 179 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: you know, they have Rafaela playing great defense, they have 180 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: Duran and a Brayw in the corners, and they have 181 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: Devers entrench at d H. So I think the positional 182 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: thing is real. There's obviously always service time and arbitration 183 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: considerations to all of this, and I think also it's 184 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: you know, fraught with peril to think that Anthony can 185 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: come back and come up and save the season. We've 186 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: seen time and time again that prospect shouldn't be asked 187 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: to do that. You know, if you looked at kind 188 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: of in a vacuum, what the month of May was 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: for Campbell and what Meyer's given them at the plate 190 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: so far, you'd be like, wow, these guys are really struggling. 191 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, from a start perspective, there's an adjustment period 192 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 3: so it'll be soon. I don't think we get to 193 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: June first. In this July first us me and this 194 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: guy still at Triple A. But you know, they have 195 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: some insulation there. The same thing though with Finn outfielder, 196 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, fouls the ball off his knee tonight and 197 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: goes in the il. 198 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: Roman will be there tomorrow, you know. 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: And that's just kind of the reality of where they are. 200 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: It's Corus said, not knocking down the door, but knocking 201 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: through it or something like that. 202 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you bring up a great point, and 203 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: I and myself and I think many others, you know, 204 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: should not expect Roman Anthony to come up here and 205 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: save the season. I think a lot of people look 206 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: at Jackson Merrill from last year and just what he did, 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: and you know, he put the he put that Paxuris 208 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: team on his back, you know, for a lot of 209 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: that season. So I think a lot of people think 210 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: to that. But people got to remember he wasn't, you know, 211 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: brought in to carry this Pauri's team. They put him 212 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the order and he just went 213 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: went off and he was going crazy and then he 214 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: just emerged as the player that he was. Another interesting 215 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: thing you just brought up. There wasn't Pedroia's first series 216 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: against the Angels on the West coast or. 217 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, now that that feels correct. 218 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's so funny that you just said that. 219 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know what, that's very true anyway. 220 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: But for the Red Sox, it is, you know, a 221 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of expectations coming into this year. Obviously we talked 222 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: about Bregman. You know, you've traded for Crochet, You've made 223 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: some other moves with Chatman, Bueller, justin Wilson, and you know, 224 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: after that bumpy start the first five, they got themselves 225 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: right in April. But month of May eleven and seventeen, 226 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: they've lost thirteen out of their last twenty. They haven't 227 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: won three in a row going back to late April. 228 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Now you're in the clubhouse, it seems like pretty much 229 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: every day. What is the energy right now that you're 230 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: feeling in this clubhouse? Is it similar to these prior 231 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: years where there's been down years or are you feeling 232 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: any optimism within the clubhouse? Kind of what censor are 233 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: you getting? 234 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a group that has 235 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: not done a phenomenal job of blocking out the outside 236 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: noise and the kind of the kind of daily drama, 237 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: you know. And that's not all to blame Devers, because 238 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm of the I'm that the nuance. It's a very 239 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: nuanced thing where you can side with the Red Sox, 240 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: you can side with Devers on this, and I see 241 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: both sides no matter what, no matter who you side with. 242 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: And again I find myself on different days feeling different. 243 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Ways about it. It's a distraction. 244 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: It's a distraction, and it's one that I think has 245 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: been you know, shown on the field in whatever ways. 246 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: Like I know, it's hard to imagine, like oh, these 247 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: guys are thinking about this on the bus ride and 248 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: then they get out to the field. It's just, you know, 249 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: it's an energy kind of feel that you feel in 250 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: that clubhouse. And that's been the case for the course 251 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: of a month now. I think the underrated story on 252 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: this whole thing beyond you know, if guys are reading 253 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: too much or listening too much or not blocking out 254 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: the outside noise is the starting rotation has been a 255 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: massive disappointment. You know, people were talking about at the 256 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: beginning of the year, you know, like hey, this could 257 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: be one of the this rotation as some of the 258 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: most upside in baseball when you have Tanner how doing 259 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: what he did, Walker, Buehler being super inconsistent, Brian BeO 260 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: being bad, Giolito being very inconsistent, Crawford, you know, not 261 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: pitching yet. I mean, we just again talked about this 262 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: on our pot. If you were to tell me, behind Crochet, 263 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: who is the starting pitcher on the Red Sox, who 264 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: has been the best this year? The answer to me 265 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: is Dobbins, which is ridiculous to say because he was 266 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: not even in consideration for this team at the beginning 267 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: of the year. He was eighth or ninth on the 268 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: depth chart. You know, Fits was bad last night, but 269 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: he had a couple of good starts. Everybody has been 270 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: kind of worst and advertised other than Crochet and Dobbins, 271 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: and that, to me is really the story of this team. 272 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: I felt like they had a good enough lineup with 273 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: Bregman in it that was only going to get better 274 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: once Meyer and Anthony came up. But now it's like, 275 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: you know, Bregman obviously a huge loss, some of the 276 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: struggles they've endured. The starting rotation is a huge, huge 277 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: question mark. You know, big star for Bayo to Night 278 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: to try to rough out to write the ship. How 279 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: can Crawford are going to get back? 280 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: But you don't know what you. 281 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: Going to get from them, you know, And I said, 282 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: as I said, Bueller and Giolito very inconsistent. So I 283 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: don't know what the answer is. Maybe a big time 284 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: trade deadline addition. But as Greig Breslow said the other day, 285 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: you know, it's great what Garrett's doing and Crochet at 286 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: the front of that rotation, but we can't rely on 287 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: him to stop a four game losing streak every five days. 288 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: Someone else has to step up, and you know, we'll 289 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: see who that is. There's been flashes from Gildo, there's 290 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: been flashes from Bueller, like I said, Dobbins, but they're 291 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: in dire need to that, and I think that's the 292 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: story of the season more than anything. 293 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: Actually, ft fam, you might have a boring, old, crusty, 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: unpretty razor and it might be expensive, so AJ should 295 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: they consider another option? 296 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: Look how cool this is. Look at the color scheme. 297 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: Look at it little sheath hide the blades when you 298 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: travel works great. I mean using this for a couple 299 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 5: of weeks now with Harry's clean no bumps no cuts 300 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: works great and you know the best part, it's a 301 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 5: great price, especially if he use the foul territory coach gut. 302 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: That's right, Harry's dot com slash foul. 303 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Guess what. 304 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: You can also get yourself a no risk trial, So 305 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: if you don't like your shave, no worries, it's on Harry's. 306 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: They're not worried about it. Get the edge on your 307 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: shave with Harry's. Normally the trial set is ten dollars, 308 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: but right now you can get it for just six 309 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: dollars at Harry's dot com slash foul. Use the exclusive 310 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: link Harry's dot com slash foul for a six dollars 311 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: trial set. 312 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think that's a very underrated part. 313 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: I think everyone's focused so much on the whole Raffi 314 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: thing Bregman going down. You know, obviously, you know you 315 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: have crochet every fifth day, so I feel like maybe 316 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: that takes away from that a little bit where people 317 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: get a little distracted. 318 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: But no, you're right. 319 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: The starting rotation, it's ranking right now on the bottom 320 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: half of Major League Baseball. They got to get themselves together. 321 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: But that leads me to my next question, and where 322 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, could there be you know, maybe some pressure 323 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff here and a lot of noise 324 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: is going towards Alex Cora, Like I said, a lot 325 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: of expectations for this year and Alex Cora. You know, 326 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, managers, they 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: tend to be that typical scapegoat. With Cora, do you 328 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: feel like there's any pressure growing on him within the 329 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: organization or with anyone on the coaching staff. 330 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: You know, this is a manager who the Red Sox 331 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: have effectively hired three times, and the ownership has effectively 332 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: hired three times. The first time when they actually did 333 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: in the fall seventeen, the second time when they brought 334 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: him back after a scandal. A lot of ownership groups 335 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: would not want to do that. Obviously, Houston wasn't interested 336 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: in doing that with aj Hinch. And then last year, 337 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: you know, they had to make a big commitment, they 338 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: had to you know, meet a very high price when 339 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: he was going to go flirt with the Yankees, Dodgers, 340 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: you know, other teams. Right, So they've hired him three times, 341 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: which means they love him at an ownership level. Sam 342 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: Kennedy does Henry Werner we think they do. They don't speak, 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: so how would we know. But the proof is in 344 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: the pudding there, I think, you know, like that is 345 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: a huge factor where ownership is going to have his back. 346 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: People say, oh, seven million dollars is just a middle reliever, 347 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: like they could eat that immediately. Now it's more about 348 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: the optics of it, right, you know, there is to 349 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: hand him, you know, the second highest paid you know, 350 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: managerial salary and deal ever and then you know, turn 351 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: around and fire him eleven months later. It's just not 352 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: something that happens, you know, if they lose out and 353 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: finish you know, sixty to one hundred and two maybe, 354 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: and there's you know, fights in the clubhouse every day. 355 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: But you know, I think he's safe through this year 356 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: and Breslo seem to allude to that. You know, you 357 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: do have to wonder about, you know, other changes on 358 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: the coaching staff. I think Andrew Bailey has you know, 359 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: we had a great first couple of months and ever 360 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: since the pitching program has not been good and we 361 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: saw that through the second half of last year, a 362 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: failure to adjust. We've seen that, you know over the 363 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: course of these first two months. Now what he has 364 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: going for him is that he has a very very 365 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: good reputation across the game, and he's very very close 366 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: with Craig Breslow, and they're very aligned on the philosophy. 367 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: Might be a philosophy issue instead of one guy, you know, 368 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: Pete Fatsy. It's tough to blame, you know, a guy 369 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: now when you've lost bragmant Akassas, who's supposed to be 370 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: to your top four hitters. But at the same time, 371 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: you know this offense had struggles when those guys are 372 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: both healthy too. 373 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 374 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: It's not very Red Sox like to fire a coach 375 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: in season. They haven't done that in my ten year 376 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: on the beat, dating back to eighteen. They haven't done 377 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: that under Korra obviously. But you know, something's going to 378 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: give at a certain point. You know, let's say they 379 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: lose another one of these games to the Angels and 380 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: find themselves swept in New York. Coming back home, you 381 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: wonder what the shakeup is, something more than Roman Anthony. 382 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's tough to envision. It's a tough time 383 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: a year for it because you're not too far off 384 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: from the trade deadline, but you're far enough where you know, 385 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: the next six weeks before the All Star break are 386 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: probably going to make or break that year. And the 387 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: Red Sox have been in a similar position. Now are 388 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: they going to buy or are they going to sell 389 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: for like the last or eight years other than you know, 390 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one, And they're right on 391 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: that lone. We're seeing Walker Buehler trade rumors pop up 392 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: from Passing today, right, So it's a it's a crucial stretch. 393 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: I don't think they can wait till July first to 394 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: assess who they are. I think Craig Bresla has assess 395 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: who they are. And you know, this is the reality 396 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: of it. They don't have reinforcement's coming pitching wise from 397 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: TRIPLEA either. 398 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you bring up something there. That's one of 399 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: the big things I want to ask you about Walker 400 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Buehler popping up in Jeff Passon's article today as a 401 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: possible trade candidate. We are still in a wait and 402 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: see mode, but you know, we are getting a little 403 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: we we're in trade season now, We're in June, right, 404 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: this is when rumors. 405 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Start to heat up. 406 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: And we got a report yesterday from Dennis Lynn of 407 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: the Athletics saying the Padres are interested in Jaron Duran, right, 408 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: they did show prior interest prior to the twenty twenty 409 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: four season. 410 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: What are you. 411 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: Making of this report? You know, have you heard anything 412 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: on your end? What's going on with all that? And 413 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, and also the Walker Buhler thing today with 414 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Passing. 415 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Padres are interested in everybody all the time, 416 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: So it's always hard to figure out, you know, what's 417 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: real and what's not. 418 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: To me, it's tough. 419 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: You know, people think they're going to get you know, 420 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: one of their top prospects. They probably aren't, you know, 421 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: And uh, that's the other thing is if you're the 422 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Red Sox, to me, you move on from Duran, who was, 423 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, your best player last year, and you know 424 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: you think of it as a core piece for a 425 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: couple of years. Yeah, it opens the spot for Roman Anthony, 426 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: but you also have to replace that with major league 427 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 3: ready talent. You know, if if Michael King had two 428 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: years left to control and wasn't a rental or had 429 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: you know, two and a half, like that would be 430 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: a guy to go get instead. And he's a rental, 431 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: so like may need a major league starting pitcher, a young, 432 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: controllable one and in a perfect world. Uh, there's already 433 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: log jams in other places. And to me, it's just 434 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: like the Red Sox approach to these next few weeks 435 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: and end up with a bunch of a ball prospects 436 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: and guys who pop up on top one hundred lists. Yes, 437 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: a lot of those players are going to be good. 438 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: You know. 439 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: And yes, I still think Campbell and Meyer and Anthony 440 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: will be really, really good players. You just can't sell 441 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: your fan base on hope for a decade. You have 442 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: to sell them on real results. And so, you know, 443 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: I think what makes the most sense for them in 444 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks are you know, big league trades, 445 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: Not the next couple of weeks because nothing's going to happen, 446 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: probably before July first, but could be wrong, but big 447 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: league for big league trades, where you give up a 448 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: part that doesn't fit your roster perfectly and you get 449 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: something that does, whether that be a first base solution, 450 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: whether that be you know, a pretty good starter. They 451 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: have too many outfielders. They had this, you know, for 452 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: a while. And I think a second guess is you 453 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: and I we had heard at the winter meetings that 454 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: they considered them basically untouchable. But a second guess is, 455 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: you know, not trading Duran at the peak of his 456 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: value over the winter. I think that's something that they 457 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: could have done to, you know, clear the path. Maybe 458 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: you know, sign a temporary fill in type guy in 459 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: the outfield, maybe somebody from the right side that could 460 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: mash a little bit grit check. I don't even know 461 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: how he's playing this year. Whatever, he was a guy 462 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: we talked about a lot. Maybe you do that and 463 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: you move on from a guy after you know, a 464 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 3: year that was outstanding. But that's really hard to you know, repeat. 465 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: You know, he could have five really good seasons that 466 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: are probably not going to be like that, and so 467 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: it's tough to see his. 468 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: Value ever being that high. 469 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 3: Again, it is tough sending a message, you know, that 470 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: you're going to trade that guy who's become one of 471 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: the real stars in the middle of a season when 472 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: you're trying to compete. But as everybody knows, it's an 473 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: imperfect and dysfunctional roster in a lot of ways, where 474 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: they have a lot of good in a lot of 475 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: areas and a lot of you know, shakiness and a 476 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: lot of others, so nothing can be ruled out. Breslo 477 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 3: is ruthless, he's not emotional. He's been good about that, 478 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: you know, throughout his time here, I think, you know, separating. 479 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean all the decisions have been good ones. 480 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: But he's not afraid. So we'll see, we'll see where 481 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: it goes. But you know, the Padres and red Sox 482 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: are always linked to each other. And I haven't made 483 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: a trade I think since let's see, maybe Drew Pomeranz. 484 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: So was there one in twenty twenty? I can't remember. 485 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: Wasn't there something now? 486 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: Mitch Moreland? I guess that Mitch Moreland. 487 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: That's what it was, Yes, for two guys that never 488 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: got a that's what. Yes, there's a guy with a 489 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: funny name that I can't remember. But you know, I 490 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: want to ask one more question. You know, I'm going 491 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: to make a terrible comparison here. This is not a 492 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: fair comparison at all, but in a way, sort of 493 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: the urgency right now that I'm feeling when it comes to, 494 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: like you said, you know, an unbalanced roster, the expectations 495 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: in a way, and again, horrible comparison, but hopefully you 496 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: can maybe see something here where I look back at 497 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, right, you know, you made that 498 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: big no Mark trade. You're terrible defensively. You needed to 499 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: improve there. There's urgency obviously. Could you see Craig, you know, 500 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: doing what THEO did back in oh four, making a 501 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: bold move like he did, you know, one that just 502 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: shook all of Boston. Could you see him doing something 503 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: like that to not just help balance the roster but 504 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: also kind of send a message at the same time. 505 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that type of move actually 506 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 3: where you are filling, you know, improving the defense with 507 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: Cabrera and Kaievich, like to make your roster more functional, 508 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: even if you're probably giving up the best player in 509 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: the deal. Like that made a lot of sense for 510 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: them at the time. It obviously worked. I think it's 511 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: tough for now, twenty one years later to make a 512 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: big league for big lead type challenge trades. You don't 513 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: see that. It's always that you give up a good 514 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: player for three A ball kids. You know, you give 515 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: up a good player for you know, a triple A 516 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: guy who might be good and an eighteen year old 517 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: who you don't like. It's always these veteran goes for 518 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: number ten and number nine prospects, whatever it is. So 519 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: it's tough, especially in a league right now where the 520 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: you know, expanded playoffs makes everybody not want to, you know, 521 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: completely give up on seasons. There's not very many sellers, 522 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, teams sometimes op to sell 523 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: because they can capitalize on a seller's market. So I 524 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: do think I don't know exactly what that trade could be. 525 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 3: You know, if you could flip Duran for a good 526 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 3: starting pitcher and call up Anthony, I think that makes 527 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I just don't know that you know, 528 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: that's possible right now, and I think, you know, I 529 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: think someone tweeted this today, but the league is not 530 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: going to be fooled if by you know, the season 531 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: Duran had last year, he's a great player, is he 532 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: going to produce at that level for the rest of 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: his career. I don't think teams around the league think 534 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: he is, and so you're not going to get them 535 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: to pay based on that one season. I think they're 536 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: going to be a little bit more realistic. So some 537 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: of the asking prices and trade proposals we've seen floated 538 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: are ridiculous. But the Padres also do have a history 539 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: of paying ridiculous prices for things, so who knows again, 540 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: June third, you don't often see a blockbuster, but you 541 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: know Greig's working. 542 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: We know that, so we'll see what happens. 543 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: So I think what you're trying to say is maybe 544 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: we can go get Paul Skins from the pirates. That 545 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: sounds about right right. 546 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: I would do Duran for skiings. Yeah. 547 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, Chris, I want to thank you for coming on today. 548 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. It's always a privilege to have 549 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: someone like you come on. Let the people at home 550 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: know where can they find you? What's going on with you? 551 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: Chris Katillo not Katillo as much as the section ten 552 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 3: people want you to think. 553 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I keep hearing both. 554 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: It's not both. The rhymes with pillow. 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