1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:08,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:23,715 --> 00:00:27,715 Speaker 1: Before dawn yesterday, the German government sent three thousand police 3 00:00:27,755 --> 00:00:30,595 Speaker 1: officers and special forces troops to the homes of more 4 00:00:30,635 --> 00:00:33,995 Speaker 1: than two dozen Q and ON fascists in eleven different 5 00:00:34,035 --> 00:00:37,195 Speaker 1: German states and arrested them for a terrorist plot to 6 00:00:37,235 --> 00:00:42,635 Speaker 1: attack the Reichstag, assassinate the Chancellor, sabotage the national electricity grid, 7 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:47,075 Speaker 1: initiate a national purge, and overthrow the German Federal Republic. 8 00:00:47,315 --> 00:00:51,075 Speaker 1: And we need to do this here now, because ordinarily 9 00:00:51,115 --> 00:00:53,795 Speaker 1: I'd be damned to take advice on how to protect 10 00:00:53,795 --> 00:00:57,395 Speaker 1: freedom from my German cousins. But history has taught them 11 00:00:57,435 --> 00:01:01,275 Speaker 1: what to do when insurrection looms, and evidently it has 12 00:01:01,315 --> 00:01:07,355 Speaker 1: not taught us. A Republican recern from Arizona, already implicated 13 00:01:07,395 --> 00:01:11,515 Speaker 1: in the January sixth coup, and the defeated Republican candidate 14 00:01:11,555 --> 00:01:15,515 Speaker 1: for governor in the same state, both yesterday after he 15 00:01:15,595 --> 00:01:19,355 Speaker 1: tried to deny he had ever suggested it endorsed Trump's 16 00:01:19,395 --> 00:01:24,515 Speaker 1: plan to terminate the Constitution. A former Trump ambassador meantime, 17 00:01:24,795 --> 00:01:28,435 Speaker 1: questioned the German arrests and implied they and January six 18 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:32,515 Speaker 1: were government stings of some kind, and it underscores something 19 00:01:32,555 --> 00:01:37,195 Speaker 1: we seem unwilling to address in this country. Whatever Trump 20 00:01:37,315 --> 00:01:41,515 Speaker 1: claims to have meant terminate the Constitution or just terminate 21 00:01:41,595 --> 00:01:44,795 Speaker 1: clauses of the Constitution, What do you think he is 22 00:01:44,875 --> 00:01:49,075 Speaker 1: implying and what do you think his cultists are understanding? 23 00:01:49,355 --> 00:01:54,995 Speaker 1: Would be the actual practical process of that? What follows 24 00:01:55,235 --> 00:02:00,555 Speaker 1: the quote termination of all rules, regulations and articles. Exactly 25 00:02:00,715 --> 00:02:04,315 Speaker 1: who is to decide it is time to quote throw 26 00:02:04,395 --> 00:02:09,475 Speaker 1: the presidential election results oft and declare the rightful winner? 27 00:02:10,315 --> 00:02:13,195 Speaker 1: Is there some fantasy within a fantasy that if Trump 28 00:02:13,275 --> 00:02:17,555 Speaker 1: just posts this sedition often enough, and if Paul Gossar 29 00:02:17,795 --> 00:02:20,835 Speaker 1: endorses it, and if Carrie Lake says she agrees with it, 30 00:02:21,075 --> 00:02:25,835 Speaker 1: President Biden and Vice President Harris will simply resign or 31 00:02:25,995 --> 00:02:29,515 Speaker 1: are politely asked to leave office, so that Trump, having 32 00:02:29,555 --> 00:02:34,355 Speaker 1: been declared the rightful winner by the people who bought 33 00:02:34,355 --> 00:02:38,195 Speaker 1: the most pillows from michae Lindell, can be sworn in 34 00:02:38,195 --> 00:02:42,435 Speaker 1: in their place. And those who elected Biden and those 35 00:02:42,475 --> 00:02:45,995 Speaker 1: who didn't but believe in representative American government and the 36 00:02:46,035 --> 00:02:50,395 Speaker 1: military loyal to the commander in chief, they would simply say, sure, 37 00:02:51,395 --> 00:02:57,035 Speaker 1: come on down. Don This insanity is not based on 38 00:02:57,115 --> 00:03:02,875 Speaker 1: some kind of illegal, unconstitutional, but peaceful process to regain 39 00:03:02,955 --> 00:03:07,475 Speaker 1: the White House without being elected. Donald Trump could achieve 40 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:11,875 Speaker 1: it only by forcing President Biden out, and that flatly 41 00:03:11,915 --> 00:03:16,995 Speaker 1: would require violence, lethal force or the threat of lethal force, 42 00:03:17,435 --> 00:03:22,635 Speaker 1: a coup, a terrorist plot that would presumably involve an attack, 43 00:03:23,315 --> 00:03:27,315 Speaker 1: another attack on our version of the Reichstag the capital, 44 00:03:27,715 --> 00:03:31,795 Speaker 1: destroying the power grid, or taking over mass media or both, 45 00:03:31,955 --> 00:03:35,995 Speaker 1: and assassinating the president or other elected leaders or both. 46 00:03:37,435 --> 00:03:42,435 Speaker 1: Trump's social media post about constitutional termination is not some 47 00:03:42,755 --> 00:03:47,075 Speaker 1: ultimate expression of his ego, some conviction that at his 48 00:03:47,195 --> 00:03:51,955 Speaker 1: word the political sees will part and he will be anointed. 49 00:03:52,595 --> 00:03:57,515 Speaker 1: It is a call to violently overthrow the Constitution of 50 00:03:57,515 --> 00:04:00,955 Speaker 1: the United States, to violently overthrow the government of the 51 00:04:01,035 --> 00:04:05,435 Speaker 1: United States, to violently overthrow the president of the United States. 52 00:04:07,075 --> 00:04:12,035 Speaker 1: The Germans saw this exact plot developing in their own country, 53 00:04:12,115 --> 00:04:15,795 Speaker 1: and because there are still those alive they're old enough 54 00:04:15,835 --> 00:04:19,315 Speaker 1: to have seen it work there, they threw three thousand 55 00:04:19,355 --> 00:04:22,555 Speaker 1: cops and special forces at it, and they raided a 56 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:26,555 Speaker 1: German military barracks where participants in the terrorist plot are 57 00:04:26,635 --> 00:04:30,395 Speaker 1: still serving in the federal armed forces, and they revealed 58 00:04:30,435 --> 00:04:32,635 Speaker 1: that a sitting judge who had been swallowed up by 59 00:04:32,715 --> 00:04:35,515 Speaker 1: q and On was to become Justice Minister in the 60 00:04:35,555 --> 00:04:39,275 Speaker 1: new dictatorship, which was to be headed by the seventy 61 00:04:39,275 --> 00:04:42,795 Speaker 1: one year old descendant of pre Nazi minor German nobility 62 00:04:42,995 --> 00:04:48,395 Speaker 1: who was counting on backing from Russia. Quote. Members of 63 00:04:48,435 --> 00:04:52,875 Speaker 1: the organization were aware, reads the official statement released by 64 00:04:52,915 --> 00:04:57,155 Speaker 1: the German prosecutor that this goal can only be achieved 65 00:04:57,355 --> 00:05:04,275 Speaker 1: through the use of military means and violence against state representatives. 66 00:05:04,315 --> 00:05:10,275 Speaker 1: This also included commissioning killings. Well, what the hell do 67 00:05:10,355 --> 00:05:13,115 Speaker 1: you think Trump and his fascists have in mind here? 68 00:05:13,595 --> 00:05:17,155 Speaker 1: What did they have in mind on January six getting 69 00:05:17,155 --> 00:05:20,595 Speaker 1: Elon Musk to run a Twitter poll for them should 70 00:05:20,595 --> 00:05:24,515 Speaker 1: Biden resign and turn over the government to Donnie We 71 00:05:24,595 --> 00:05:27,715 Speaker 1: are already aware of the q and On presence in 72 00:05:27,835 --> 00:05:31,195 Speaker 1: police forces and in the military of the United States. 73 00:05:31,955 --> 00:05:35,275 Speaker 1: We are already aware of TRUMPUS lunatics in the House 74 00:05:35,315 --> 00:05:39,275 Speaker 1: of Representatives. We're already aware of the Oath Keepers and 75 00:05:39,355 --> 00:05:41,795 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys and the other militias who were the 76 00:05:41,835 --> 00:05:47,035 Speaker 1: little better coordination would have unleashed an attack with military 77 00:05:47,115 --> 00:05:50,395 Speaker 1: grade weapons on the Capitol two years ago. Next month, 78 00:05:50,915 --> 00:05:56,195 Speaker 1: and just last weekend we saw somebody shoot up just 79 00:05:56,435 --> 00:06:00,995 Speaker 1: two power substations in North Carolina and leave an entire 80 00:06:01,115 --> 00:06:07,555 Speaker 1: county blacked out for nearly a week. The Germans have 81 00:06:07,715 --> 00:06:13,395 Speaker 1: acted and us. The Speaker presumptive of the House of Representatives, 82 00:06:13,435 --> 00:06:16,795 Speaker 1: is planning to put the Arizona Congressman Paul goes Are 83 00:06:17,195 --> 00:06:20,595 Speaker 1: back on the committee assignments, which were stripped after his 84 00:06:20,715 --> 00:06:24,675 Speaker 1: role in the Big Lie and January six. Goes Are 85 00:06:24,795 --> 00:06:28,315 Speaker 1: who yesterday tweeted a screenshot of Trump's terminate the Constitution 86 00:06:28,395 --> 00:06:32,515 Speaker 1: post and added quote, I support and agree with the 87 00:06:32,555 --> 00:06:43,715 Speaker 1: former president. Unprecedented fraud requires unprecedented cure. Unprecedented cure, Gosar 88 00:06:43,875 --> 00:06:51,315 Speaker 1: means guns and bloodshed and sabotage and sedition and revolution 89 00:06:51,795 --> 00:06:55,795 Speaker 1: and summary executions. And it does not matter if he 90 00:06:55,835 --> 00:07:00,595 Speaker 1: has a diseased mind and he hallucinates. There are thousands 91 00:07:00,595 --> 00:07:03,955 Speaker 1: of people with weapons at the ready, willing to reduce 92 00:07:04,075 --> 00:07:07,275 Speaker 1: this country two ashes if they can, for the sake 93 00:07:07,315 --> 00:07:11,395 Speaker 1: of their racism and fascism and the poisoning of their 94 00:07:11,435 --> 00:07:16,675 Speaker 1: minds by Trump and Q and on the Germans put 95 00:07:16,835 --> 00:07:20,875 Speaker 1: there Paul goes Are behind bars yesterday and sent their 96 00:07:20,915 --> 00:07:25,395 Speaker 1: special forces to put him there. Our Paul Goes are 97 00:07:25,595 --> 00:07:32,435 Speaker 1: deleted his tweet. Unprecedented fraud requires unprecedented cure, without explanation 98 00:07:32,595 --> 00:07:38,435 Speaker 1: or comment. Arrest him, and while you are in Arizona. 99 00:07:38,915 --> 00:07:44,555 Speaker 1: A massive voter fraud of this type in magnitude allows 100 00:07:44,595 --> 00:07:48,555 Speaker 1: for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even 101 00:07:48,595 --> 00:07:51,755 Speaker 1: those found in the Constitution. I agree with them on that. 102 00:07:52,755 --> 00:07:55,155 Speaker 1: Can you imagine our founding fathers, what they went through 103 00:07:55,195 --> 00:07:58,835 Speaker 1: to help bring about this great nation, seeing what happened 104 00:07:58,875 --> 00:08:04,955 Speaker 1: in it's really seeing what's happening now in just saying Okay, well, 105 00:08:05,595 --> 00:08:07,435 Speaker 1: I guess it didn't go our way, and I guess 106 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:11,635 Speaker 1: they cheated. We know they rigged the elections, and they 107 00:08:11,675 --> 00:08:13,955 Speaker 1: put in a bumbling fool who doesn't even have the 108 00:08:13,995 --> 00:08:18,355 Speaker 1: mental posity to run this country. Okay, just get over it. 109 00:08:18,555 --> 00:08:20,795 Speaker 1: We'll just let the loser take the White House. I 110 00:08:20,795 --> 00:08:23,555 Speaker 1: don't think that would happen. President Trump is saying, we 111 00:08:23,595 --> 00:08:28,915 Speaker 1: are in unprecedented times, and unprecedented measures are necessary. Arrest 112 00:08:29,235 --> 00:08:32,395 Speaker 1: carry Lake. She shouldn't be hard to find. Just look 113 00:08:32,435 --> 00:08:35,435 Speaker 1: for a webcam with a gauze filter on top of 114 00:08:35,475 --> 00:08:39,235 Speaker 1: another gauze filter, on top of another gauze filter. On 115 00:08:39,315 --> 00:08:44,635 Speaker 1: top of the camera lens. Again, our refusal to recognize 116 00:08:44,675 --> 00:08:47,875 Speaker 1: that the only way Carry Lake and Paul Gozar and 117 00:08:47,995 --> 00:08:52,435 Speaker 1: Donald Trump could terminate the Constitution or just any part 118 00:08:52,515 --> 00:08:56,475 Speaker 1: of the Constitution and install him in power now would 119 00:08:56,595 --> 00:09:02,435 Speaker 1: necessitate mass violence. Our refusal to recognize that only emboldens 120 00:09:02,515 --> 00:09:06,395 Speaker 1: those who would happily turn to such violence, and gives 121 00:09:06,435 --> 00:09:10,515 Speaker 1: them more time to prepare such violence. Is there any 122 00:09:10,595 --> 00:09:15,635 Speaker 1: other conclusion? Did Trump flinch at the violence of January six? 123 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:18,635 Speaker 1: Did he even condemn the threat to hang his own 124 00:09:18,715 --> 00:09:23,515 Speaker 1: vice president? Just Monday, Trump tried to back away from 125 00:09:23,555 --> 00:09:28,195 Speaker 1: the terminate the Constitution post, but on Tuesday, at Mari Lago, 126 00:09:28,315 --> 00:09:32,275 Speaker 1: Trump hosted another Q and On lunatic named Liz Croaken, 127 00:09:32,675 --> 00:09:36,595 Speaker 1: the woman who taught Marjorie Taylor Green about Q and On. 128 00:09:37,115 --> 00:09:40,755 Speaker 1: He posed with Liz Croaken. He had Liz Croakin talked 129 00:09:40,795 --> 00:09:43,755 Speaker 1: to the crowd. He didn't hesitate as she and others 130 00:09:43,915 --> 00:09:46,915 Speaker 1: posted videos of him and Croakin and the two of 131 00:09:46,955 --> 00:09:49,235 Speaker 1: them together. He didn't push back when she claimed that 132 00:09:49,275 --> 00:09:52,395 Speaker 1: while she was at Mari Lago Tuesday, she discussed the 133 00:09:52,435 --> 00:09:56,315 Speaker 1: pizza Gate fantasy, which has sustained quan On and this 134 00:09:56,475 --> 00:10:01,395 Speaker 1: mass psychosis since its beginnings. He didn't flinch when another attendee, 135 00:10:01,555 --> 00:10:05,355 Speaker 1: the former right wing congressional candidate from Florida, Darlene's Swapper, 136 00:10:05,435 --> 00:10:08,035 Speaker 1: took pictures at the Q and On event at Mari 137 00:10:08,155 --> 00:10:15,195 Speaker 1: Lago with Sarah Palin and Michael Flynn. There may be 138 00:10:15,515 --> 00:10:19,635 Speaker 1: zero percent chance of this viper's nest succeeding in overthrowing 139 00:10:19,675 --> 00:10:22,635 Speaker 1: the government of the United States, or even coming close 140 00:10:22,675 --> 00:10:26,955 Speaker 1: to it in a million years. Let us hope so, 141 00:10:27,635 --> 00:10:31,835 Speaker 1: but let us stop relying on hope. Let us stop 142 00:10:31,995 --> 00:10:39,195 Speaker 1: kidding ourselves. These are the January six coup plotters, and 143 00:10:39,275 --> 00:10:44,675 Speaker 1: Trump is the creature who inspired it all. They are 144 00:10:44,755 --> 00:10:49,395 Speaker 1: not hoping for some sort of peaceful transition of power 145 00:10:49,595 --> 00:10:54,675 Speaker 1: next week. They already proved that on January six, ludicrous 146 00:10:54,795 --> 00:10:58,595 Speaker 1: or imminent, or somewhere in between. Trump and his minions 147 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:03,555 Speaker 1: are planning some sort of violent revolution, something not unlike 148 00:11:03,595 --> 00:11:07,235 Speaker 1: what had percolated in Germany these last few years. The 149 00:11:07,355 --> 00:11:10,675 Speaker 1: Germans had the presence of mind to recognize insurrection and 150 00:11:10,835 --> 00:11:14,315 Speaker 1: mass violence and terrorism and revolution when they saw it, 151 00:11:14,915 --> 00:11:19,475 Speaker 1: and we damn well better do the same, and fast 152 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:36,915 Speaker 1: still ahead for the fourth separate time. More secret government 153 00:11:36,955 --> 00:11:39,755 Speaker 1: documents have been found in Trump's possession. But this time 154 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:44,315 Speaker 1: that's got to be it, right. Vladimir Putin has reportedly 155 00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:48,915 Speaker 1: built Noah's Ark. Well, Noah's Ark is what it sounds like. 156 00:11:49,035 --> 00:11:52,155 Speaker 1: If he is overthrown because of the disaster in Ukraine, 157 00:11:52,555 --> 00:11:54,915 Speaker 1: he gets on board and he floats away to some 158 00:11:54,995 --> 00:11:59,075 Speaker 1: other country. Yesterday, December seven was a date that will 159 00:11:59,115 --> 00:12:01,915 Speaker 1: live in infamy or if you used to be Trump's 160 00:12:01,915 --> 00:12:06,355 Speaker 1: press secretary, it was the anniversary of the Allied invasion 161 00:12:06,355 --> 00:12:11,715 Speaker 1: of Normandy during World War Two. Seriously, Sean Spicer. And 162 00:12:11,835 --> 00:12:16,075 Speaker 1: today December eight is its own anniversary of great sadness, 163 00:12:16,595 --> 00:12:19,275 Speaker 1: the death of John Lennon, as remembered by a guy 164 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:23,035 Speaker 1: who was very unexpectedly on the air that night as 165 00:12:23,035 --> 00:12:27,795 Speaker 1: a rock and roll disc jockey. Me, that's next. This 166 00:12:27,955 --> 00:12:41,795 Speaker 1: is countdown. This is countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead 167 00:12:41,835 --> 00:12:45,035 Speaker 1: on countdown. Five goals in a little over half a 168 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:48,115 Speaker 1: hockey game, when the all time record is seven and 169 00:12:48,195 --> 00:12:50,955 Speaker 1: you have all that time left to get there. What 170 00:12:51,035 --> 00:12:54,755 Speaker 1: do you think happened? And this is a terrible anniversary. 171 00:12:55,155 --> 00:12:58,275 Speaker 1: John Lennon was murdered forty two years ago tonight, and 172 00:12:58,435 --> 00:13:01,235 Speaker 1: him probably for one of only two times in my life, 173 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:04,515 Speaker 1: I was on the air as a disc jockey as 174 00:13:04,675 --> 00:13:08,315 Speaker 1: it happened, and the air check of that show still exists. 175 00:13:09,355 --> 00:13:11,395 Speaker 1: First in each edition of Countdown, we feature a dog 176 00:13:11,435 --> 00:13:13,475 Speaker 1: in need. You can help. Every dog has its day. 177 00:13:14,275 --> 00:13:17,395 Speaker 1: Chestnut is in bad shape, but he's a fighter. He 178 00:13:17,435 --> 00:13:21,275 Speaker 1: has been found on the streets alone by Rescue Dogs 179 00:13:21,355 --> 00:13:24,075 Speaker 1: Rock of New York. He is so infected, probably from 180 00:13:24,115 --> 00:13:26,955 Speaker 1: drinking contaminated water on the streets, that his hair is 181 00:13:26,995 --> 00:13:29,515 Speaker 1: all but gone. He'll need as much as twelve weeks 182 00:13:29,515 --> 00:13:33,675 Speaker 1: of antibiotics and constant medicated baths. Rescue Dogs is doing 183 00:13:33,675 --> 00:13:36,755 Speaker 1: a fundraiser for him on Cudley. You can find Chestnut 184 00:13:36,835 --> 00:13:39,515 Speaker 1: there on Cudley or look for him on my Twitter feeds. 185 00:13:39,915 --> 00:13:42,995 Speaker 1: Your donation or just a retweet can make all the 186 00:13:43,035 --> 00:13:46,915 Speaker 1: difference in the world. I thank you, and Chestnut thanks you. 187 00:14:00,435 --> 00:14:03,435 Speaker 1: Post Scripts to the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, 188 00:14:03,515 --> 00:14:06,395 Speaker 1: some predictions. Date line in West Palm Beach, Florida. Nobody's 189 00:14:06,435 --> 00:14:08,635 Speaker 1: saying what they were, but lawyers have found at least 190 00:14:08,635 --> 00:14:12,795 Speaker 1: two more classified items in Trump's possession. These according to 191 00:14:12,795 --> 00:14:15,955 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, we're in a storage unit in Florida 192 00:14:16,035 --> 00:14:18,995 Speaker 1: and were immediately turned over to the FBI. The Trump 193 00:14:19,035 --> 00:14:23,355 Speaker 1: team had hired an outside firm to search Trump locations 194 00:14:23,435 --> 00:14:27,035 Speaker 1: besides Mari Lago, after a federal judge demanded the lawyers 195 00:14:27,035 --> 00:14:29,995 Speaker 1: at test that they had complied fully with the subpoena 196 00:14:30,075 --> 00:14:33,835 Speaker 1: in May to turn over any classified materials Trump may 197 00:14:33,835 --> 00:14:37,355 Speaker 1: have purloined. You still have to check the first hole 198 00:14:37,555 --> 00:14:40,715 Speaker 1: at the Bedminster golf course. I'm just telling you Dateline, 199 00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:43,275 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, we may have a surprise coming in 200 00:14:43,315 --> 00:14:46,835 Speaker 1: the ruling and the independent State Legislature theory case in 201 00:14:46,875 --> 00:14:50,835 Speaker 1: which North Carolina claims its courts have no say over 202 00:14:50,915 --> 00:14:54,875 Speaker 1: what it legislature decides to do about federal elections and 203 00:14:54,875 --> 00:14:58,355 Speaker 1: congressional maps and the like. Witnesses to the arguments in 204 00:14:58,435 --> 00:15:01,795 Speaker 1: More versus Harper before the Supreme Court say there were 205 00:15:01,915 --> 00:15:06,635 Speaker 1: three camps. The three liberals flatly opposed Alito, Gorsuch, and 206 00:15:06,715 --> 00:15:11,555 Speaker 1: Thomas flatly in favor, but unexpectedly Justices Barrett and Kavanaugh, 207 00:15:11,635 --> 00:15:15,275 Speaker 1: and Chief Justice Roberts tacking towards the middle and some 208 00:15:15,395 --> 00:15:17,635 Speaker 1: kind of middle road which would still favor the state 209 00:15:17,715 --> 00:15:22,915 Speaker 1: courts but permit occasional appeals to federal courts. Day Line 210 00:15:22,915 --> 00:15:27,035 Speaker 1: Moscow A former Putin speechwriter posted on telegram that yeah, 211 00:15:27,155 --> 00:15:29,595 Speaker 1: his old boss is aware that there is a new, 212 00:15:29,755 --> 00:15:34,395 Speaker 1: unplanned possible outcome in Ukraine, that Russia could collapse or 213 00:15:34,515 --> 00:15:38,235 Speaker 1: at minimum Putin could be overthrown. Putin, he says, has 214 00:15:38,275 --> 00:15:42,715 Speaker 1: a plan called Noah's Ark, and the original version of 215 00:15:42,715 --> 00:15:45,675 Speaker 1: this would have spirited Putin and his henchmen to China, 216 00:15:46,315 --> 00:15:49,515 Speaker 1: but now they say they're looking instead at Margarita Island 217 00:15:49,755 --> 00:16:11,075 Speaker 1: in Venezuela. Thank you, Nancy Faust, Dateline, Washington, January six. 218 00:16:11,075 --> 00:16:14,715 Speaker 1: Committee Chairman Benny Thompson puts something down in concrete. He 219 00:16:14,715 --> 00:16:17,435 Speaker 1: says they want to release their final report and vote 220 00:16:17,475 --> 00:16:21,035 Speaker 1: on criminal referrals two weeks from yesterday. On the one 221 00:16:21,555 --> 00:16:24,395 Speaker 1: and Dateline Washington, after police came to the home of 222 00:16:24,435 --> 00:16:27,715 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, who aid his daughter during some private distress, 223 00:16:28,115 --> 00:16:32,435 Speaker 1: Megan McCain wrote, there's a special hell being a teenage girl. 224 00:16:32,475 --> 00:16:35,795 Speaker 1: When you're dead is a famous Republican politician and you're 225 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:39,395 Speaker 1: in middle high school. Leave the entire Cruise family alone 226 00:16:39,475 --> 00:16:42,715 Speaker 1: and just send prayers. That is the correct sentiment, except 227 00:16:42,755 --> 00:16:46,635 Speaker 1: for one detail. In somebody made a joke about the 228 00:16:46,635 --> 00:16:49,915 Speaker 1: then eighteen year old Chelsea Clinton at a fundraiser. The 229 00:16:49,995 --> 00:16:52,555 Speaker 1: joke was, do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so 230 00:16:52,675 --> 00:16:56,675 Speaker 1: ugly because Janet Reno is her father. That joke was 231 00:16:56,795 --> 00:17:18,555 Speaker 1: made by Megan's father, John McCain. This is Sports Center. Wait, 232 00:17:18,755 --> 00:17:27,395 Speaker 1: check that not anymore. This is countdown with Keith in sports. 233 00:17:27,515 --> 00:17:30,835 Speaker 1: This is why records stay records. The mark for the 234 00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:33,475 Speaker 1: most goals in the National Hockey League game is seven 235 00:17:33,875 --> 00:17:36,835 Speaker 1: by Joe Malone of the Quebec Bulldogs in nineteen twenty, 236 00:17:37,155 --> 00:17:40,955 Speaker 1: but modern records six by Sid how of the Red 237 00:17:40,955 --> 00:17:44,755 Speaker 1: Wings and then after expansion Red Barons of the Night 238 00:17:44,795 --> 00:17:47,595 Speaker 1: Blues and Darryl Sittler of the nineteen seventy six maple Leaves. 239 00:17:47,995 --> 00:17:50,715 Speaker 1: With roughly four minutes to play in the second period 240 00:17:50,755 --> 00:17:55,155 Speaker 1: at Columbus last night, Buffalo's range E Giant Tage Thompson 241 00:17:55,435 --> 00:17:57,955 Speaker 1: scored his fifth goal of the game. He had four 242 00:17:57,995 --> 00:18:00,875 Speaker 1: in the first period alone, four minutes of the second 243 00:18:00,875 --> 00:18:04,955 Speaker 1: period and all of the third period remaining, and he 244 00:18:04,995 --> 00:18:08,955 Speaker 1: didn't score again. Baseball, so Aaron Judge did resign with 245 00:18:08,995 --> 00:18:11,235 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees and the San Francisco Giants. They 246 00:18:11,235 --> 00:18:13,595 Speaker 1: are not happy. The Giants thought they had a deal. 247 00:18:14,475 --> 00:18:17,715 Speaker 1: Well that's settled, but what about Arson Judge. Two big 248 00:18:17,715 --> 00:18:21,715 Speaker 1: signings last night, the Japanese outfielder Massa Taka Yoshida agreed 249 00:18:21,755 --> 00:18:24,035 Speaker 1: to a ninety million, five year deal with the Red 250 00:18:24,075 --> 00:18:27,875 Speaker 1: Sox for the Oricx Buffaloes. Last year, Yoshida struck out 251 00:18:27,955 --> 00:18:31,555 Speaker 1: just forty one times in five eight trips to the plate, 252 00:18:31,995 --> 00:18:34,595 Speaker 1: So Yoshida in the American League will need to start 253 00:18:34,635 --> 00:18:39,235 Speaker 1: swinging wildly and foolishly. The Bosox also ain't. Former Dodgers 254 00:18:39,235 --> 00:18:42,635 Speaker 1: and Braves closer Kenneley Jansen and the Cardinals signed catcher 255 00:18:42,675 --> 00:18:46,355 Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras away from the Cubs because Cubs ownership has 256 00:18:46,395 --> 00:18:50,155 Speaker 1: realized you Cubs fans will go anyway just to see 257 00:18:50,195 --> 00:19:00,835 Speaker 1: the ballpark, no matter how bad they make. The team 258 00:19:01,115 --> 00:19:03,715 Speaker 1: had the anniversary of the murder of John Lennon as 259 00:19:03,755 --> 00:19:06,035 Speaker 1: it played out during a second and last time I 260 00:19:06,115 --> 00:19:10,115 Speaker 1: ever spent any time as a rock and roll disc jockey. First, 261 00:19:10,155 --> 00:19:12,355 Speaker 1: the daily round up of the miscreants, morons and Dunning 262 00:19:12,435 --> 00:19:15,915 Speaker 1: Kruger effect specimens who constitute today's worst persons in the world. 263 00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:21,715 Speaker 1: The Bronze Jesse Waters of Fox Nudes. For the amount 264 00:19:21,795 --> 00:19:27,195 Speaker 1: of time that these clowns talk about grooming and pedophilia. 265 00:19:27,475 --> 00:19:30,955 Speaker 1: The things they themselves say once again suggest this is 266 00:19:31,035 --> 00:19:35,795 Speaker 1: all projection. Talking about the merits of smoking marijuana, Jesse 267 00:19:35,955 --> 00:19:40,635 Speaker 1: Waters said, quote, girls don't dig it. This is when 268 00:19:40,755 --> 00:19:44,795 Speaker 1: Judge Janine Piro replied, why do you say girls don't 269 00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:48,995 Speaker 1: dig it? And Waters then said girls don't like the scene. 270 00:19:49,115 --> 00:19:52,875 Speaker 1: They don't like the scene. And Pierro, who for once 271 00:19:52,955 --> 00:19:56,435 Speaker 1: was not the dumbest one in the studio, asked what 272 00:19:56,595 --> 00:20:06,675 Speaker 1: about alcohol, and Waters replied, girls like the alcohol scene. Lebrons. 273 00:20:06,715 --> 00:20:09,635 Speaker 1: The Family Foundation a Richmond based anti l g B 274 00:20:09,795 --> 00:20:13,475 Speaker 1: t Q and Bible thumping crackpot outlet. It had a 275 00:20:13,555 --> 00:20:17,115 Speaker 1: dessert reception scheduled on November thirty that Metzker Bar and 276 00:20:17,195 --> 00:20:21,315 Speaker 1: Butchery in Virginia. About ninety minutes before it was to begin, 277 00:20:21,355 --> 00:20:24,715 Speaker 1: the owners called Family Foundation and said, your reservation is canceled. 278 00:20:25,155 --> 00:20:28,675 Speaker 1: They explained they don't serve bigots. Family Foundation claims it 279 00:20:28,715 --> 00:20:31,675 Speaker 1: was discriminated against, like this was the segregated South in 280 00:20:31,675 --> 00:20:34,635 Speaker 1: their terms, but legal experts say no, since the outlet 281 00:20:34,675 --> 00:20:38,435 Speaker 1: was deliberately involved in actions against members of the community, 282 00:20:38,715 --> 00:20:41,035 Speaker 1: they were denied service not because of who they are, 283 00:20:41,555 --> 00:20:45,275 Speaker 1: but because of what they actually did. But our winner. 284 00:20:45,755 --> 00:20:50,955 Speaker 1: Sean Spicer today is D Day, he tweeted yesterday. It 285 00:20:50,995 --> 00:20:53,515 Speaker 1: only lives in infamy if we remember and share the 286 00:20:53,555 --> 00:20:58,155 Speaker 1: story of sacrifice with the next generation. Hashtag D Day. 287 00:20:59,075 --> 00:21:01,555 Speaker 1: Sean Spicer was either six months and two days off 288 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:05,195 Speaker 1: because what America calls D Day is June five, or 289 00:21:05,795 --> 00:21:11,995 Speaker 1: he's commemorating Imperial Japan's D Day December seven. And you 290 00:21:12,035 --> 00:21:14,435 Speaker 1: wonder why it was so easy for him to lie 291 00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:20,755 Speaker 1: as Trump's Press secretary, Sean Yesterday, December seven is a 292 00:21:20,835 --> 00:21:24,075 Speaker 1: day of infamy? Or hey, what day was the fourth 293 00:21:24,075 --> 00:21:30,755 Speaker 1: of July? On Spicer two Day's worst person and the 294 00:21:30,875 --> 00:21:47,315 Speaker 1: one to the number one story on the countdown. And 295 00:21:47,355 --> 00:21:50,835 Speaker 1: these career stories and anniversaries are usually happy ones, or 296 00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:55,635 Speaker 1: at least delightfully unhappy. Not this one. Forty two years 297 00:21:55,635 --> 00:21:58,835 Speaker 1: ago tonight, John Lennon was murdered, shot and killed as 298 00:21:58,835 --> 00:22:01,235 Speaker 1: he greeted his fans outside his New York home as 299 00:22:01,235 --> 00:22:04,355 Speaker 1: he always did, just as he was resuming his career, 300 00:22:04,915 --> 00:22:07,595 Speaker 1: just as he was finding the piece he had always sought, 301 00:22:08,075 --> 00:22:10,915 Speaker 1: just as he was flowering anew in the city he 302 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:13,635 Speaker 1: had come to love. And I was on the air 303 00:22:13,715 --> 00:22:16,515 Speaker 1: that night as a disc jockey at a rock station. 304 00:22:17,195 --> 00:22:19,275 Speaker 1: I was never a disc jockey. I think I did 305 00:22:19,315 --> 00:22:23,315 Speaker 1: it three times at my college radio station, once in 306 00:22:23,355 --> 00:22:26,435 Speaker 1: an emergency when I was running the place one summer 307 00:22:26,435 --> 00:22:28,435 Speaker 1: and there was literally nobody else to do the overnight 308 00:22:28,435 --> 00:22:31,235 Speaker 1: show except for me and the venerable engineer John Hill, 309 00:22:31,595 --> 00:22:33,995 Speaker 1: who had a voice so low and gravilly that could 310 00:22:33,995 --> 00:22:38,115 Speaker 1: only be heard by about humans. And I had graduated 311 00:22:38,115 --> 00:22:42,275 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, but on Monday December eighth, nine eighty, 312 00:22:42,355 --> 00:22:44,875 Speaker 1: I was back at Cornell visiting my friends who were 313 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:48,355 Speaker 1: still there, many of them people I had trained who 314 00:22:48,355 --> 00:22:51,115 Speaker 1: were now in charge of the student owned commercial radio 315 00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:54,075 Speaker 1: station w v b r FM. One of them was 316 00:22:54,115 --> 00:22:57,235 Speaker 1: the news director Mike McNeil, and he and I figured 317 00:22:57,235 --> 00:22:59,395 Speaker 1: the best way to hang out for a while was 318 00:22:59,435 --> 00:23:01,915 Speaker 1: to do the late music show together ten PM to 319 00:23:01,995 --> 00:23:05,675 Speaker 1: two am. He spun the records and played the commercials 320 00:23:05,995 --> 00:23:09,155 Speaker 1: and I did the disc jockey patter. It wasn't especially 321 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:12,115 Speaker 1: good or bad. I remember a listener calling in early 322 00:23:12,155 --> 00:23:14,195 Speaker 1: in the show to say I sounded like don Imus, 323 00:23:14,235 --> 00:23:16,115 Speaker 1: and I said thank you, and he said that's not 324 00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:20,835 Speaker 1: a compliment. And then it happened, and we were rolling 325 00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:24,995 Speaker 1: tape on the show. This is I think about eleven 326 00:23:25,115 --> 00:23:30,995 Speaker 1: ten eleven fifteen or so. The shooting had happened around ten. 327 00:23:31,675 --> 00:23:34,315 Speaker 1: Steely Dan on w v b R FM time Out 328 00:23:34,315 --> 00:23:38,915 Speaker 1: of My Mind sad news from New York tonight. Police 329 00:23:38,955 --> 00:23:41,595 Speaker 1: say that former Beatle John Lennon was shot at his 330 00:23:41,675 --> 00:23:45,675 Speaker 1: home on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Police spokesman says Lennon 331 00:23:45,715 --> 00:23:48,715 Speaker 1: was taken to Roosevelt Hospital, his condition unknown. At this point. 332 00:23:49,115 --> 00:23:52,275 Speaker 1: The spokesman says a suspect is in custody, but other 333 00:23:52,275 --> 00:23:54,795 Speaker 1: than that shred of information, we have no other details 334 00:23:54,795 --> 00:23:58,475 Speaker 1: available to repeat. John Lennon was shot at his home 335 00:23:59,235 --> 00:24:02,595 Speaker 1: and taken to the hospital. His detail his condition unknown 336 00:24:02,595 --> 00:24:04,435 Speaker 1: at this point. We really don't know anything else about it. 337 00:24:04,835 --> 00:24:08,915 Speaker 1: If we do, we will let you know. As I 338 00:24:08,955 --> 00:24:12,155 Speaker 1: said that night, we had no other information. There's no Internet, 339 00:24:12,755 --> 00:24:15,955 Speaker 1: there's no cable news. Well there was CNN, they just 340 00:24:16,035 --> 00:24:18,875 Speaker 1: signed on. The radio station didn't have it. We had 341 00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:23,315 Speaker 1: one functioning TV there and the three major networks, one 342 00:24:23,315 --> 00:24:25,635 Speaker 1: of them was carrying Monday Night football. Anyway, there was 343 00:24:25,675 --> 00:24:28,395 Speaker 1: no wall to wall coverage on radio. There were no 344 00:24:28,555 --> 00:24:31,635 Speaker 1: live reports from the scene on radio or television. There 345 00:24:31,675 --> 00:24:35,835 Speaker 1: was just a United Press international teletype machine clattering away 346 00:24:35,995 --> 00:24:38,755 Speaker 1: in a corner of an empty newsroom in a nearly 347 00:24:38,835 --> 00:24:42,835 Speaker 1: deserted radio station, late on a Monday night. But mind you, 348 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:45,595 Speaker 1: this was the top rated station in a town that 349 00:24:45,675 --> 00:24:50,275 Speaker 1: had a university and a huge college, and probably thirty 350 00:24:50,315 --> 00:24:53,755 Speaker 1: thousand students, and most of them in their dorms or 351 00:24:53,795 --> 00:24:58,675 Speaker 1: apartments as finals had just begun to loom. The only 352 00:24:58,755 --> 00:25:01,635 Speaker 1: noises beside the music we were playing in that studio 353 00:25:02,075 --> 00:25:05,835 Speaker 1: were all the phones ringing all the time, all asking 354 00:25:05,875 --> 00:25:09,235 Speaker 1: the same question, This couldn't be true, Tell me it 355 00:25:09,435 --> 00:25:13,395 Speaker 1: isn't true. Save a trade together at Triangle, the bookshop 356 00:25:13,435 --> 00:25:15,995 Speaker 1: of College Town. As we mentioned before, we don't know 357 00:25:16,075 --> 00:25:18,635 Speaker 1: his condition, We don't know the circumstances. But the report 358 00:25:18,675 --> 00:25:21,075 Speaker 1: from New York is that tonight at his home on 359 00:25:21,155 --> 00:25:24,795 Speaker 1: Manhattan's Upper West Side, John Lennon need was to say, 360 00:25:24,835 --> 00:25:27,955 Speaker 1: the former beatle and star in his own rights, was shot. 361 00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,675 Speaker 1: He's been taken to the hospital, where his condition is 362 00:25:30,715 --> 00:25:33,595 Speaker 1: at this point unknown. Will attempt to keep you updated 363 00:25:33,675 --> 00:25:37,315 Speaker 1: as we get the information. Here. Mike McNeil and I 364 00:25:37,475 --> 00:25:40,435 Speaker 1: settled in for a long night of worry and communal 365 00:25:40,515 --> 00:25:44,595 Speaker 1: solemnity because it wasn't possible. John Lennon was dead. Why 366 00:25:44,635 --> 00:25:48,955 Speaker 1: would anybody shoot John Lennon? Why would our society? How 367 00:25:48,995 --> 00:25:52,115 Speaker 1: could my city let somebody walk up and shoot and 368 00:25:52,315 --> 00:25:56,835 Speaker 1: kill John Lennon. It couldn't happen. We got all the 369 00:25:56,875 --> 00:26:00,555 Speaker 1: Beatles albums out of the library, all the Lenin albums out, 370 00:26:00,835 --> 00:26:03,675 Speaker 1: and we played the songs that moved us most, and 371 00:26:03,755 --> 00:26:05,915 Speaker 1: I selected in my Life, And then I ran out 372 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:07,915 Speaker 1: to the U p. I machine and all the bullets 373 00:26:07,915 --> 00:26:10,555 Speaker 1: and bells were going off, and I knew what the 374 00:26:10,595 --> 00:26:13,395 Speaker 1: bulletin said before I got to the machine and read it. 375 00:26:14,155 --> 00:26:17,235 Speaker 1: I got back to the microphone, just as in my 376 00:26:17,515 --> 00:26:21,915 Speaker 1: life was ending. The bitterness of that irony struck me 377 00:26:21,995 --> 00:26:26,315 Speaker 1: then and has not left me now for forty two years. 378 00:26:34,275 --> 00:26:37,675 Speaker 1: John Lennon is dead. Report from New York is now 379 00:26:37,675 --> 00:26:41,315 Speaker 1: that John Lennon, who was shot three times outside his 380 00:26:41,355 --> 00:26:44,075 Speaker 1: home in Manhattan's Upper West Side, has died of his injuries. 381 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:47,355 Speaker 1: We have no further information. When I guess nothing is 382 00:26:47,395 --> 00:26:51,235 Speaker 1: necessary after that John and John Lennon, with the Beatles 383 00:26:51,275 --> 00:26:55,835 Speaker 1: in my life before that starting over, and imagine for 384 00:26:55,995 --> 00:26:59,435 Speaker 1: all this time I have wondered why McNeil and I 385 00:26:59,515 --> 00:27:01,955 Speaker 1: just went on with the music show. We kept playing 386 00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:04,955 Speaker 1: the commercials, some of them I had to read. I've 387 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:07,955 Speaker 1: of course it dawns on me. Now, of course we 388 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:11,675 Speaker 1: went on with it. We were in shock. We were grasping, 389 00:27:11,955 --> 00:27:14,755 Speaker 1: like everybody who had heard the news, for the normal, 390 00:27:15,355 --> 00:27:20,635 Speaker 1: even the crassly commercial normality of commercials. We did not 391 00:27:20,795 --> 00:27:26,075 Speaker 1: even yet go all Beatles FM. At about a quarter 392 00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:28,595 Speaker 1: to twelve, the news tonight from New York again, as 393 00:27:28,595 --> 00:27:31,155 Speaker 1: we mentioned before, that John Lennon is dead, having been 394 00:27:31,195 --> 00:27:36,475 Speaker 1: shot outside his home. Now the who I listened to 395 00:27:36,515 --> 00:27:39,995 Speaker 1: this tape. It's a small cassette, it is worn with 396 00:27:40,115 --> 00:27:43,275 Speaker 1: the years. It is from so many years ago, and 397 00:27:43,315 --> 00:27:46,515 Speaker 1: I wish there was more feeling in my voice, more tribute. 398 00:27:46,875 --> 00:27:50,475 Speaker 1: And then I remember what in real time, my goal 399 00:27:50,755 --> 00:27:55,755 Speaker 1: was to keep from crying on the air. Years later, 400 00:27:55,795 --> 00:27:58,555 Speaker 1: I was at ESPN when our colleague Tom Mees died. 401 00:27:58,595 --> 00:28:01,715 Speaker 1: He drowned in a swimming pool. There were forty of 402 00:28:01,795 --> 00:28:03,995 Speaker 1: us working on the six PM Sports Center that night. 403 00:28:04,355 --> 00:28:07,715 Speaker 1: We were all veterans and professionals. I wrote and narrated 404 00:28:07,755 --> 00:28:11,715 Speaker 1: Tom's obituary, and not one of us was clearheaded enough 405 00:28:11,755 --> 00:28:14,395 Speaker 1: to think that we should start the program with the 406 00:28:14,395 --> 00:28:17,915 Speaker 1: news of his passing every newscast from New York to 407 00:28:17,995 --> 00:28:21,675 Speaker 1: Boston did exactly that. But you do not think in 408 00:28:21,755 --> 00:28:27,835 Speaker 1: such times as tragedy envelopes you you react. W v 409 00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:31,595 Speaker 1: b R FM in Ithaca, Keith Alderman here and as 410 00:28:31,675 --> 00:28:34,955 Speaker 1: we have been besieged by phone calls here at the station, 411 00:28:35,355 --> 00:28:37,515 Speaker 1: it is true. John Lennon was shot and killed tonight 412 00:28:37,515 --> 00:28:41,915 Speaker 1: in New York. He was apparently either outside or inside 413 00:28:42,035 --> 00:28:45,115 Speaker 1: or leaving or entering his home, the Dakota Hotel in Manhattan, 414 00:28:45,635 --> 00:28:48,115 Speaker 1: and he was shot three times. The police say that 415 00:28:48,155 --> 00:28:50,435 Speaker 1: they have a suspect in the killing. They give no 416 00:28:50,475 --> 00:28:53,035 Speaker 1: other details. The spokesman for the police did say that 417 00:28:53,075 --> 00:28:55,755 Speaker 1: it was not a robbery and that apparently Lennon was 418 00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:58,475 Speaker 1: killed by a deranged person. And again we have no 419 00:28:58,515 --> 00:29:01,315 Speaker 1: other details. John Lennon shot about an hour ago and 420 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,715 Speaker 1: was taken to the hospital in critical condition where he now. 421 00:29:05,715 --> 00:29:10,475 Speaker 1: In memory of John Lennon, Gradually we shook ourselves into 422 00:29:10,515 --> 00:29:13,595 Speaker 1: trying to provide something to the listeners beyond simply repeating 423 00:29:13,595 --> 00:29:16,995 Speaker 1: that grim news again and again. There was an irony 424 00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:19,315 Speaker 1: here that I recognized. At the time, I had literally 425 00:29:19,395 --> 00:29:21,675 Speaker 1: just left the radio network I had worked for since 426 00:29:21,715 --> 00:29:24,555 Speaker 1: graduating to join a new network called r k O. 427 00:29:25,395 --> 00:29:27,475 Speaker 1: I was in fact taking a few days off between 428 00:29:27,515 --> 00:29:30,195 Speaker 1: the two jobs and spending them with my old school friends. 429 00:29:30,875 --> 00:29:34,235 Speaker 1: Just before I left, the RKO Radio network had conducted 430 00:29:34,275 --> 00:29:38,875 Speaker 1: a long, sit down interview with John Lennon. When I 431 00:29:38,955 --> 00:29:41,475 Speaker 1: left the building, they were editing it into a special 432 00:29:42,395 --> 00:29:45,115 Speaker 1: John Lennon had also done a lengthy interview with Playboy, 433 00:29:45,155 --> 00:29:47,475 Speaker 1: and at some point in the evening somebody came into 434 00:29:47,515 --> 00:29:54,555 Speaker 1: the radio station with a copy of that interview. W 435 00:29:54,715 --> 00:29:57,795 Speaker 1: v b RFM at twenty eight minutes past twelve o'clock 436 00:29:57,835 --> 00:30:02,195 Speaker 1: at night, Keith Olberman here, and as you've probably heard 437 00:30:02,195 --> 00:30:04,435 Speaker 1: by now, John Lennon was shot and killed tonight and 438 00:30:04,475 --> 00:30:08,115 Speaker 1: New York. It's the timing of it. I guess the 439 00:30:08,115 --> 00:30:11,515 Speaker 1: timing of a shooting is never appropriate, but the timing 440 00:30:11,555 --> 00:30:14,155 Speaker 1: of this one is awfully strange. Just in this month's 441 00:30:14,835 --> 00:30:18,475 Speaker 1: edition of the Playboy magazine, there's a very in depth 442 00:30:18,475 --> 00:30:22,595 Speaker 1: interview with John Lennon and Yoko Ono, And between now 443 00:30:22,635 --> 00:30:25,555 Speaker 1: and later on we'll be reading you a couple of 444 00:30:26,275 --> 00:30:29,395 Speaker 1: quotations from the interview. The first one we thought was 445 00:30:29,555 --> 00:30:32,995 Speaker 1: appropriate at this time is John Lennon talking about himself 446 00:30:33,035 --> 00:30:36,635 Speaker 1: as a child, and he says in the interview, surrealism 447 00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:38,795 Speaker 1: had a great effect on me because then I realized 448 00:30:38,835 --> 00:30:42,035 Speaker 1: that my imagery and my mind was an insanity, that 449 00:30:42,115 --> 00:30:44,915 Speaker 1: if it was insane, I belong in an exclusive club 450 00:30:44,995 --> 00:30:47,715 Speaker 1: that sees the world in those terms. Surrealism to me 451 00:30:47,835 --> 00:30:51,315 Speaker 1: is reality. Psychic vision, to me is reality. Even as 452 00:30:51,315 --> 00:30:53,355 Speaker 1: a child, when I looked at myself in the mirror, 453 00:30:53,395 --> 00:30:56,195 Speaker 1: when I was twelve thirteen, I used to literally trance 454 00:30:56,235 --> 00:30:58,395 Speaker 1: out into alpha. I didn't know what it was called. 455 00:30:58,435 --> 00:31:00,915 Speaker 1: Then I found out years later there's a name for 456 00:31:00,915 --> 00:31:04,235 Speaker 1: those conditions. But I would find myself seeing hallucinatory images 457 00:31:04,235 --> 00:31:06,995 Speaker 1: of my face is changing and becoming cosmic and complete. 458 00:31:07,595 --> 00:31:10,395 Speaker 1: It caused me to always be a rebel. This thing 459 00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:11,915 Speaker 1: gave me a chip on the shoulder. But on the 460 00:31:11,955 --> 00:31:14,395 Speaker 1: other hand, I wanted to be loved and accepted. Part 461 00:31:14,435 --> 00:31:16,315 Speaker 1: of me would like to be accepted by all facets 462 00:31:16,315 --> 00:31:20,075 Speaker 1: of society and not be this loudmouth, lunatic musician. But 463 00:31:20,155 --> 00:31:26,795 Speaker 1: I cannot be what I'm not. John Lennon dead Tonight. Finally, 464 00:31:26,835 --> 00:31:28,875 Speaker 1: more than an hour after the news came in of 465 00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:31,955 Speaker 1: John Lennon's death, we began to get some information from 466 00:31:31,995 --> 00:31:36,275 Speaker 1: the scene. In another weird twist, my old station at 467 00:31:36,315 --> 00:31:39,275 Speaker 1: Cornell had just signed up as an affiliate for the network. 468 00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:41,955 Speaker 1: I was just about to join r k OH and 469 00:31:42,035 --> 00:31:45,195 Speaker 1: we would now rely on its correspondence people. I would 470 00:31:45,195 --> 00:31:48,595 Speaker 1: spend the next two years working with for the Grim News. 471 00:31:51,155 --> 00:31:54,515 Speaker 1: We have more information now on the shooting death of 472 00:31:54,595 --> 00:31:57,755 Speaker 1: John Lennon tonight. John Lennon shot and killed in front 473 00:31:57,755 --> 00:31:59,875 Speaker 1: of his home on Manhattan's Upper West Side. He was 474 00:31:59,875 --> 00:32:02,475 Speaker 1: getting out of a limousine. Apparently. They say he was 475 00:32:02,475 --> 00:32:06,275 Speaker 1: shot at least five times. He was forty. Police said 476 00:32:06,315 --> 00:32:09,835 Speaker 1: Lennon was shot at about eleven PM and he died 477 00:32:09,875 --> 00:32:12,195 Speaker 1: in the emergency room at the Roosevelt Hospital in New York, 478 00:32:12,235 --> 00:32:14,795 Speaker 1: and his wife, Yoko Ono, was with him when he died. 479 00:32:15,435 --> 00:32:17,995 Speaker 1: Correspondent Rich Raymond was at the US. Dr Stephen Lynn, 480 00:32:18,035 --> 00:32:21,635 Speaker 1: the emergency room services director here Roosevelt Hospital, said that 481 00:32:21,755 --> 00:32:25,355 Speaker 1: John Lennon was dead on arrival from seven gunshot wounds 482 00:32:25,355 --> 00:32:28,275 Speaker 1: in his chest and back. He said that Lennon had 483 00:32:28,435 --> 00:32:30,915 Speaker 1: massive blood loss and it was probably dead from the 484 00:32:30,955 --> 00:32:34,515 Speaker 1: moment the shots hit him. Doctor Lynn said that Yokoo 485 00:32:34,635 --> 00:32:38,235 Speaker 1: accompanied John to the hospital. Doctor Lynne gave her the 486 00:32:38,235 --> 00:32:41,635 Speaker 1: news that John was dead. She was very distraught and 487 00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:45,195 Speaker 1: found it hard to believe that's, corresponded Rich Raymond in 488 00:32:45,235 --> 00:32:48,515 Speaker 1: New York. A police spokesman added that a suspect is 489 00:32:48,555 --> 00:32:51,235 Speaker 1: in custody, but that there were no other details available 490 00:32:51,235 --> 00:32:54,115 Speaker 1: at of the circumstances of the shooting. The spokesman said 491 00:32:54,355 --> 00:32:56,035 Speaker 1: that it was not a robbery, that the person who 492 00:32:56,075 --> 00:32:58,715 Speaker 1: shot Lennon was most likely deranged, and there was a 493 00:32:58,755 --> 00:33:00,475 Speaker 1: witness to this, and he says that a man in 494 00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:03,835 Speaker 1: his mid thirties with what he described as almost a 495 00:33:03,955 --> 00:33:07,235 Speaker 1: smirk on his face, gunned down the singer as Lennon 496 00:33:07,275 --> 00:33:09,235 Speaker 1: and his wife and several other people walked into the 497 00:33:09,315 --> 00:33:12,075 Speaker 1: vestibule of the apartment building where the Lennon's lived in 498 00:33:12,075 --> 00:33:14,875 Speaker 1: New York. The witness says that residents of the hotel 499 00:33:14,955 --> 00:33:16,755 Speaker 1: told him that the man had been seen in the 500 00:33:16,835 --> 00:33:19,675 Speaker 1: vestibule for hours before the shooting, and according to the 501 00:33:19,715 --> 00:33:22,875 Speaker 1: same witness, the man just walked out and shot John Lennon. 502 00:33:23,275 --> 00:33:25,955 Speaker 1: Lennon celebrated his fortieth birthday on October nine, and he 503 00:33:26,035 --> 00:33:28,835 Speaker 1: of course just released his new album Double Fantasy, Made 504 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,155 Speaker 1: of Course with Yo Kohno, and that was supposed to 505 00:33:32,155 --> 00:33:36,915 Speaker 1: be a comeback for the two of them. In his 506 00:33:36,955 --> 00:33:40,555 Speaker 1: interview with Playboy Magazine this month, John Lennon explained something 507 00:33:40,595 --> 00:33:44,555 Speaker 1: about that song. He says, or said, the images were 508 00:33:44,555 --> 00:33:46,755 Speaker 1: from Alice in Wonderland. It was Alice in the boat. 509 00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:49,235 Speaker 1: She's buying an egg and it turns into Humpty dumpty. 510 00:33:49,475 --> 00:33:51,555 Speaker 1: The woman serving in the shop turns into a sheep, 511 00:33:51,595 --> 00:33:53,955 Speaker 1: and the next minute they're rowing in a rowing boat somewhere. 512 00:33:54,155 --> 00:33:56,715 Speaker 1: And I was visualizing that. There was also the image 513 00:33:56,715 --> 00:33:58,995 Speaker 1: of the female who would someday come and save me, 514 00:33:59,395 --> 00:34:01,715 Speaker 1: a girl with kaleidoscope eyes who would come out of 515 00:34:01,755 --> 00:34:03,955 Speaker 1: the sky. It turned out to be Yoko, though I 516 00:34:03,955 --> 00:34:06,475 Speaker 1: hadn't met Yoka yet, so maybe it should be Yoko 517 00:34:06,515 --> 00:34:12,715 Speaker 1: in the sky with diamonds w v b r FM. 518 00:34:12,755 --> 00:34:16,275 Speaker 1: The Playboy magazine article UH The interview with John Lennon 519 00:34:16,235 --> 00:34:19,035 Speaker 1: and Yoko Ono ended with a question from the interviewer 520 00:34:19,795 --> 00:34:24,155 Speaker 1: about John Lennon's eighties dream, and he answered, will you 521 00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:26,475 Speaker 1: make your own dream? That's the Beatles story, isn't it. 522 00:34:26,715 --> 00:34:29,715 Speaker 1: That's Yoko's story. That's what I'm saying. Now, produce your 523 00:34:29,755 --> 00:34:32,755 Speaker 1: own dream if you want to say, perdue, peruce, peru, 524 00:34:32,915 --> 00:34:35,955 Speaker 1: rather go, say Peru. It's quite possible to do anything, 525 00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:37,835 Speaker 1: but not to put it on the leaders and the 526 00:34:37,915 --> 00:34:41,115 Speaker 1: parking meters. Don't expect Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan, or 527 00:34:41,195 --> 00:34:43,875 Speaker 1: John Lennon or Yoko Ono or Bob Dylan or Jesus 528 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:45,915 Speaker 1: Christ to come and do it for you. You have 529 00:34:45,955 --> 00:34:48,395 Speaker 1: to do it yourself. That's what the great masters and 530 00:34:48,435 --> 00:34:51,315 Speaker 1: mistresses have been saying ever since time began. They can 531 00:34:51,355 --> 00:34:54,555 Speaker 1: point the way, leave signposts and little instructions in various 532 00:34:54,595 --> 00:34:57,235 Speaker 1: books that are now called holy and worshiped for the 533 00:34:57,235 --> 00:34:58,995 Speaker 1: cover of the book and not for what it says. 534 00:34:59,515 --> 00:35:01,795 Speaker 1: But the instructions are all there for all to see, 535 00:35:02,155 --> 00:35:04,675 Speaker 1: have always been and always will be. There's nothing new 536 00:35:04,755 --> 00:35:07,155 Speaker 1: under the sun. All the roads lead to Rome, and 537 00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:09,915 Speaker 1: people cannot provide it for you. I can't wake you up, 538 00:35:10,235 --> 00:35:12,835 Speaker 1: you can wake you up. I can't cure you, you 539 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:15,675 Speaker 1: can cure you. The interviewer then asks what is that 540 00:35:15,675 --> 00:35:19,395 Speaker 1: that keeps people from accepting that message, and John Lennon said, 541 00:35:19,995 --> 00:35:22,555 Speaker 1: it's fear of the unknown. The unknown is what it is, 542 00:35:22,715 --> 00:35:24,675 Speaker 1: and to be frightened of it is what sends everybody 543 00:35:24,715 --> 00:35:28,715 Speaker 1: is scurring around, chasing dreams illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, 544 00:35:28,995 --> 00:35:32,355 Speaker 1: all that, it's all illusion. Unknown is what it is, 545 00:35:32,715 --> 00:35:36,515 Speaker 1: except that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. Everything is unknown, 546 00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:39,155 Speaker 1: then you're ahead of the game. That's what it is, right. 547 00:35:39,835 --> 00:35:42,035 Speaker 1: John Lennon may have provided his own epitaph in that 548 00:35:42,675 --> 00:35:45,835 Speaker 1: comment in Playboy magazine. This is w v b r 549 00:35:45,955 --> 00:35:51,595 Speaker 1: FM Ithaca. I would love to be able to conclude 550 00:35:51,635 --> 00:35:56,155 Speaker 1: this with some insight, some meaning about what happened that night, 551 00:35:56,715 --> 00:35:59,315 Speaker 1: just as I wanted to conclude this with some insight 552 00:35:59,435 --> 00:36:03,715 Speaker 1: forty two years ago on that show. There is no 553 00:36:03,835 --> 00:36:08,195 Speaker 1: insight to be ad. The murder of John Lennon did 554 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:10,995 Speaker 1: not make sense to me, then it does not make 555 00:36:11,035 --> 00:36:14,155 Speaker 1: sense to me. Now it will never make sense to me. 556 00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:20,315 Speaker 1: This is Countdown. Countdown with Keith Alderman is a production 557 00:36:20,475 --> 00:36:24,115 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. 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