Speaker 1: Look Mayer, Oh, I see you my owne bow and
Speaker 1: look over there is that culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, loves cult ding dull Los Culturista's calling guys, Let's
Speaker 2: get right into it because there's a lot to say
Speaker 2: and a lot to cover this week.
Speaker 1: And we don't have a minute to spare. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Brooke Ashley always, can I just say, did we
Speaker 1: already go over this on the last episode? Watching the
Speaker 1: two of you together is so thrilling. So Matt was
Speaker 1: recently on Brooke Ashley's podcast and YouTube show well it
Speaker 1: famously started as a YouTube channel. She's my favorite YouTube
Speaker 1: chant Housewives Recover mine as well, and so, like I
Speaker 1: think I told Bowen about her must be like a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Now it's been like three years at
Speaker 1: this point, because I remember, just I have never aligned
Speaker 1: with someone more besides you on Housewives' opinions, and she
Speaker 1: always had the right opinion on Potomac and then it
Speaker 1: expanded to other franchises as well. Yeah, I just thinks
Speaker 1: she's fabulous, But I'm so used to seeing her on
Speaker 1: one like it's just her talking just sort of extemporaneously
Speaker 1: to the camera, which is such a difficult skill. She's
Speaker 1: so good at it, Like mm hmm, talking by yourself
Speaker 1: to the camera for an excited period of time is
Speaker 1: a challenge, but then seeing her share the space with you,
Speaker 1: both of you together is so wonderful to watch she is.
Speaker 1: She obviously loves you. You love her, I love her.
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone treat yourself, even if you don't know
Speaker 1: anything housewives. Just watch these two people talk to each other.
Speaker 1: It's really, really, really lovely. I love her and we
Speaker 1: had fun and I had been wanting to go on
Speaker 1: her channel for such a long time. I will say
Speaker 1: I'm sort of trying to back off, like doing any
Speaker 1: other podcast right now, because I kind of became like
Speaker 1: the face of Housewives' opinions there for a second, because
Speaker 1: I just can't fucking out myself, like care if people
Speaker 1: are like, Okay, I was gonna do my I don't
Speaker 1: think so hanny about this. But like people's reaction to
Speaker 1: you in that like online community when they don't agree
Speaker 1: with you is so intense, And the number one thing
Speaker 1: they always say is like, I don't even know who
Speaker 1: this is? Who is this guy? Oh? Now we're done
Speaker 1: with that guy? Can I say, like, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: Is not really necessarily it doesn't work as a read.
Speaker 1: It just kind of says like, okay, so that you
Speaker 1: don't know what it says. I'm just like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't have to prove who I am. You don't have
Speaker 1: to prove who you are.
Speaker 3: I have stopped saying that out right. I've stopped being
Speaker 3: like I don't know who that person is, as if
Speaker 3: that's a worthwhile thing to vocalize say out loud, or
Speaker 3: like as if that's supposed to elicit a response from
Speaker 3: someone else, like I don't know a person, Oh right,
Speaker 3: because there are a million billion people in the world,
Speaker 3: you fucking lose her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Because there's a million people out there.
Speaker 1: You can't know them all. There's a million anyways. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I've taken a little bit of step back because people
Speaker 1: were like, wow, he really goes hard for these on
Speaker 1: his house side opinions, and I'm like, it's true. I
Speaker 1: just gotta hold myself down sometimes I'm like, Matt, stop.
Speaker 1: But I do think I helped move the needle. I do,
Speaker 1: of course, sud Oh. I think public opinion is meaning
Speaker 1: in the right direction thanks to people like you and Brooke. Also,
Speaker 1: one last thing about the I don't know this person
Speaker 1: thing the scurse God, I fucking hate it. That implies
Speaker 1: that you are up to speed on the culture, and
Speaker 1: it's nine impossible these days to like know everything about everything.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like whatever, even that's giving
Speaker 1: too much credit. It's like you're not cool enough to
Speaker 1: know what's going on. No, like period. It's just especially
Speaker 1: someone like you who's fucking a reply guy, or someone
Speaker 1: who's like, you know, I don't know someone who is
Speaker 1: like so. I mean, look, we're we have the same
Speaker 1: disease as you. We love the Real Housewives, but like,
Speaker 1: you are not right in the head if you are
Speaker 1: commenting on videos like this anyway. That's my opinion. My
Speaker 1: thing is just like I genuinely, genuinely like it because
Speaker 1: I like it sociologically, No, of course, like I love
Speaker 1: to watch these shows and like see how they react
Speaker 1: with each other, et cetera. I love it too. But
Speaker 1: then I will say, you finally stumble upon something like
Speaker 1: the Salt Lake trailer that dropped, and you're like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, it has felt different because I'm out here
Speaker 1: being like keep Jersey, keep Jersey the same, or like
Speaker 1: just change a couple of things and then Salt Lake
Speaker 1: comes and I'm like, you know what, this feels really good.
Speaker 1: That actually wasn't feeling so good the Salt Lake trailer.
Speaker 1: You guys, whoa, We're back. We are so back. Eight
Speaker 1: Lisa's a dinner with eight Lisa Barlows. And then during it,
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow reaches over and tries to snatch Whitney Roses
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow wig off her head and says, take that
Speaker 1: wig off. You could never be me. Come on on,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. The Olympics are back, and they
Speaker 1: are they are starting again on September. What is it eighteenth,
Speaker 1: fifteenth fifteenth? It's so soon, September eighteen September eighteenth. The
Speaker 1: Olympics are back, honey, Two guys, what is it? Seven women?
Speaker 1: Broadwyn is back, y'all that the Nameame Bronwyn is going
Speaker 1: to really make a huge splash. My co star in Wicked,
Speaker 1: Bronwyn James, iconic British actress. I can't wait to meet
Speaker 1: her and really connect the Shenshin to my Fanny, make
Speaker 1: the Shenshun lego as well.
Speaker 3: That was my last I don't think so, honey, I
Speaker 3: forgot that part. If there's gonna be a Fanny lego.
Speaker 3: There are better be a Shenhun lego.
Speaker 1: Period do we establish hasn't really been established. I know
Speaker 1: that maybe people might know that your name in Wicked
Speaker 1: is Fanny, which is pussy in British lingo. I mean
Speaker 1: everyone on set, all these wonderful Brits were like just
Speaker 1: stifling laughter, Like okay, can we get a final check
Speaker 1: on Fanny? Like if a guys, if some foppish sidekick
Speaker 1: in a huge movie was named pussy in America on
Speaker 1: an American set, that would be crazy. Oh man, you
Speaker 1: see me out here standing, Oh wow, I can't believe it,
Speaker 1: Like you're pussy, You're pussy Bronwin anyway, So yes, Bronwen
Speaker 1: is back the name Bronwen. Now can I ask is
Speaker 1: this some sort of Mormon name Bronwyn or is it
Speaker 1: like some sort of what is it? It's Celtic, it's
Speaker 1: Celtic Gaelic, It's something here, let's look at the origins.
Speaker 1: I'm actually way ahead of you. So there's many ways
Speaker 1: that you can spell the word Bronwen. Bronwen is a
Speaker 1: feminine given name, well variant of the most feminine name
Speaker 1: bron when branwhen literally meaning white raven or abstractly white breast.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, I love a white breast. It means to
Speaker 1: be white, fair and blessed. Oh my god, Branwen Bronwen
Speaker 1: a well white, fair and blessed. I look, you're two
Speaker 1: out of the three, girl, I am not fair. You're
Speaker 1: white and blessed. Life. I'm like, I'm a lot like life.
Speaker 1: I'm fair and blested. I'm two out of the three too.
Speaker 1: You are fair and blessed.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I guess according to you, I'm allegedly white,
Speaker 3: and so I think I'm three for three.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I almost forgot my conspiracy theory about you,
Speaker 1: that you're parroting this image as a queer Asian man
Speaker 1: for fame, success and more and more, and it's working.
Speaker 1: We're all playing into it now. I've not done with
Speaker 1: salt Lake yet. We got to keep talking about a
Speaker 1: little bit more. What are your hopes and dreams for
Speaker 1: season five? Oh my god, My hopes and dreams include
Speaker 1: that Bronlin. Actually there's whoever. This new Bronalin is comes
Speaker 1: in like defense against the Dark Arts, because not the
Speaker 1: turf Book. Sorry, bitch, I'm not kidding. I'm getting goo going,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to say that the Salt Lake villain
Speaker 1: of the Year needs to be like the Defense against
Speaker 1: the Dark Arts teacher. Right, it's a revolving door. If
Speaker 1: like I guess the Voldemort is jen Shaw, right, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's a meaning these metaphors, but like sort
Speaker 1: of looms over the whole franchise and like he's there.
Speaker 1: And then she had her like little you know, death
Speaker 1: eaters coming in like Monica, and you know there was
Speaker 1: Jenny and God remember Jenny when Jesus she was horrible.
Speaker 1: And now we're getting Bronwin. And I don't necessarily know
Speaker 1: that she's going to be a villain, but I just
Speaker 1: think it would be fun for Salt Lake to have
Speaker 1: like this insane character come in every year, fuck shit up,
Speaker 1: and our heroes make it through. Oh my god, Alex,
Speaker 1: Heather Gay Harry, that's incredible. Makes the poster now in Heather,
Speaker 1: I'm a what a moment. Oh wow. Except it's not
Speaker 1: about getting invited to join a wizard school. It's about
Speaker 1: being compelled to leave the Mormon Church, to leave the church.
Speaker 1: And then Hagrid is Andy Cohen. This this is getting
Speaker 1: and this is when we lost the threats Hagrid Andy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: in a world where this is a one to one,
Speaker 1: then I guess we'd still be talking about Harry Potter,
Speaker 1: but we simply can't. Although I will say I feel
Speaker 1: like we haven't said on the podcast, but wow, fuck her.
Speaker 1: I think this is like a yearly thing. We've said
Speaker 1: it a million times, just like not in light of
Speaker 1: the recent shit. It gets worse year after year though.
Speaker 1: Anytime I'm like, oh, I forgot about miss Joe Anne,
Speaker 1: then she like does something fucking disgusting again, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh you God, I thought we were done with you.
Speaker 1: She is awful rotted. Isn't it wild? How much like
Speaker 1: Voldemort she became, Like if you really think about what
Speaker 1: she created and like what she's become, She's become like
Speaker 1: this like arbiter of negativity and hatred and transphobia, and
Speaker 1: it's branching out into all these other things to the
Speaker 1: point where it's just like a gathering storm online that
Speaker 1: she's in the center of. And that to me is
Speaker 1: like very close to what she.
Speaker 3: Wrote write that book. Yeah, well, it's like, no, I
Speaker 3: think I've said this before. It's like this is someone
Speaker 3: who wrote like a huge morality tale of fictionalized morality
Speaker 3: tale and so of course she's going to like form
Speaker 3: her own She's going to create out of nothing, like
Speaker 3: all of these morals and fears and all these things
Speaker 3: within her own fucking weird imagination, and then it's all imagined.
Speaker 1: It's all like fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: I hope I hope she gets sued out of her
Speaker 3: fucking ass with this.
Speaker 1: Well I think she is right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she and Elan are both named Innimantia Khaliff's lawsuit,
Speaker 3: and so we'll see how far this goes and how
Speaker 3: long this gets drawn out. But God peace and blessings
Speaker 3: to gold medalists. I know, yeah, gold medalist the money
Speaker 3: Khalif deserved, and I would say, I'm just I would
Speaker 3: love to see them get taken for as much money
Speaker 3: as possible, like because you know that they are made
Speaker 3: of it, and even if they're taken for as much
Speaker 3: as possible, it still won't make a dent. But the
Speaker 3: fact is, like it needs to be public as fuck
Speaker 3: that you can't just fucking do this.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And by the way, you know who's max
Speaker 1: disgusting now is like I've quin of course, but like
Speaker 1: and we'll stop talking about these demons. But like Megan
Speaker 1: Kelly like back on her like YouTube channel because this
Speaker 1: is all these people can get after they get kicked
Speaker 1: out of like media. And then you know, they point
Speaker 1: to figure out how corporate media is evil, which whatever,
Speaker 1: it's a longer discussion, but they end up on their
Speaker 1: YouTube channels saying this shit like, yeah, why are men
Speaker 1: competing against women? It's so disgusting. Hmmm. I mean we
Speaker 1: really are flying around the map today, huh yeah, like
Speaker 1: Alphabe and Oz, two White Fair and Blessed co stars
Speaker 1: discuss pop culture on the latest episode of Lost Culturistas,
Speaker 1: the podcast from iHeartMedia. So, speaking of White Fair and Blessed,
Speaker 1: the cast of Salt Lake City, what was your poll?
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Lisa's at a table I'm also excited
Speaker 1: for Meredith versus Mary. What about you? I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: Meredith versus Mary, You've been using me for the past
Speaker 1: three years. It's just incredible. I personally don't believe that
Speaker 1: bringing Mary Cosby into the tableau and to promote her
Speaker 1: from friend of is the best move. She's I think
Speaker 1: she's dangerous. I think she really is evil. So I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I am so excited for these
Speaker 1: people to be back. I mean, we watched the Palm
Speaker 1: Springs episode the other night with Jared, and we did
Speaker 1: I think we willed this trailer into existence because we
Speaker 1: watched it and the next morning we woke up and
Speaker 1: it was like there was a teaser for the trailer
Speaker 1: all day in the Housewives Vana. That's how you know
Speaker 1: if there was a teaser for the if there was
Speaker 1: a trailer for the trailer, or a teaser for the trailer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely were gonna do that for Roney, but which
Speaker 1: we love and I think you and I are both
Speaker 1: on the same side of the Roney trailer looks great,
Speaker 1: genuinely excited for the season. But that seems to be
Speaker 1: a point of division and contention in the community. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are dragging the Rone trailer. I'm like, whatever, I
Speaker 1: think it looks good. I think it looks fun. I
Speaker 1: also know exactly what to expect from that, which is
Speaker 1: gonna be like that show is still finding its footing.
Speaker 1: I would say to anyone out there who doesn't listen
Speaker 1: to Housewives and is still with us, I'm nearly fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes in Salt Lake is a really easy and good
Speaker 1: one to get on board with.
Speaker 3: And it's already kind of in the modern era of
Speaker 3: house liives the best. Yeah, and also it's sure to write.
Speaker 3: The first season's like thirteen episodes or something. The second
Speaker 3: season is like peak TV. It's credible, and then the
Speaker 3: third season kind of tapers, and then the fourth season
Speaker 3: is really fucking good and ends in the most probably
Speaker 3: the most satisfying conclusion. Yes, it starts at on a
Speaker 3: high note and it ends on a higher note. And
Speaker 3: we will keep saying it should have been nominated for
Speaker 3: Best Instructured Reality Program for Outstanding Unstructured.
Speaker 1: Unstructured Reality Television Program like Open your Eyes. Emmy voters
Speaker 1: that by the way, we have to the end of
Speaker 1: the week to vote. If you're an Emmy voter, I
Speaker 1: want to see you Bow and Yang checked off on
Speaker 1: your bucks. We need to take these other nominees down.
Speaker 1: Yang to take it. It's less about Bow winning, it's
Speaker 1: about the other one now getting taken down. Take down.
Speaker 1: Former guests of the podcast, Paul w Downs just kidding,
Speaker 1: he deserves two in love. Paul, I just like had
Speaker 1: been brushing up on the shows again, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: I just like blew through hacks when it came out
Speaker 1: and I was like, let me give this one more watch.
Speaker 1: I loved the season so much. Season three, you mean
Speaker 1: you blew through up because it was just like you
Speaker 1: just had it on and I just had it on.
Speaker 3: I guess I wasn't like keat in as much as
Speaker 3: I like should have been, Like the finale was like whoa,
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And then I wanted to like watch
Speaker 3: it back from the beginning because I feel like they
Speaker 3: were planting things at the season and god, great show.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking amazing show.
Speaker 3: Just like I think it's gotten better season overseason. I've
Speaker 3: loved every season, but like the first season, like my
Speaker 3: only thought was like I wish this was just a
Speaker 3: little bit more joke heavy, and I think like they
Speaker 3: really struck that balance by season three, Like it's a genuinely,
Speaker 3: amazingly on a joke level great show. And then it's
Speaker 3: also like all like the dramatic things that are happening
Speaker 3: in it are so rich and anyway, loved it.
Speaker 1: It's really great to watch, like something like they have
Speaker 1: earned all of those really compelling dramatic moments, like at
Speaker 1: the end of the season between Ava and Debra and
Speaker 1: I would say that that is a really fascinating type
Speaker 1: of relationship for me, Like, yeah, this sort of mentor
Speaker 1: mentee thing. But it's also it's so loaded within that dynamic,
Speaker 1: and there is a parental thing, but the reminder that
Speaker 1: you should not invest in a parental sense in this
Speaker 1: person in that way, it's like a little it's almost
Speaker 1: like borderline abusive. Actually, I would argue that relationship is
Speaker 1: kind of fully abusive, yeah, like psychologically, but it's fascinating
Speaker 1: to watch, and you don't really see it done that
Speaker 1: much and that well on television, especially because you feel
Speaker 1: like not a lot of stuff gets to marinate for
Speaker 1: that long. I mean, this is four seasons we've watched
Speaker 1: of that relationship and it's still interesting. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: still really compelling, and you get the sense that, like
Speaker 1: it's just two amazing characters colliding, and that there is
Speaker 1: so many smart ways in which they interact and it
Speaker 1: doesn't ever feel basic or expected. Just one of those
Speaker 1: things totally agree with you.
Speaker 3: And even the relationships outside of that central dynamic I
Speaker 3: think are incredibly compelling. My favorite episode of the season
Speaker 3: was deva Band's Christmas Spectacular, written by Pat Reagan and
Speaker 3: it's where Jasmith Cameron comes for the Christmas dinner and
Speaker 3: it's like they have it like she and Deborah have
Speaker 3: a whole scene outside. I was just like Jasmith Cameron
Speaker 3: d my only no for Succession needed more Jerry every
Speaker 3: single season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess she kind of had to take a
Speaker 1: little bit of a backseat this last season, huh. I know,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, I miss Jerry. I want
Speaker 1: more Jerry. Miss success in general. I missed succession in general?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? But you know what everyone is
Speaker 1: kind of saying is the new succession industry? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: are you an industry? Really? I need to start me too.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I tried the first season, and
Speaker 1: I will just admit this, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck they're talking about kind of base level and the
Speaker 1: way they talk is so British that I don't understand
Speaker 1: it on again a deeper level, and so sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: just like I need like not even subtitles, I need
Speaker 1: like an explainer at the bottom. Yeah, it's a couple
Speaker 1: different worlds, both like you know, professionally and culturally that
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hold on a second, because did you
Speaker 1: feel that way about Succession. Starting out like Succession, there
Speaker 1: was like this barrier of like, like what are they
Speaker 1: talking about? It's like, what the fuck is a bear hug?
Speaker 3: Like I like all this stuff, Like I had to
Speaker 3: like eventually acclimate towards I understand what you're saying completely,
Speaker 3: and I wonder if it's just some extra work, extra push.
Speaker 1: Honestly, with Succession, no, because I think it was so
Speaker 1: it was like such a comedy and it was kind
Speaker 1: of cartoonish that like, and I do mean that in
Speaker 1: like the best way. I mean, those characters look at
Speaker 1: them like they are. Those characters are so their comedy
Speaker 1: games are so clear, and that ultimately is what makes
Speaker 1: them dramatically compelling, because you put them in very dramatic situations,
Speaker 1: very tragic situations, and so when they act a certain way,
Speaker 1: it's like you, it's very mad men. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like the smallest thing elicits the biggest emotional response from you,
Speaker 1: the viewer, because the characters are drawn so well, and
Speaker 1: so when you know the stupid little ways they're going
Speaker 1: to act because they just can't help themselves, and you
Speaker 1: put them in very dramatic, tragic situations, it makes everything
Speaker 1: all the more heartbreaking because you're kind of laughing. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So just to return to the industry of it all
Speaker 1: and succession. I got succession because it was presented in
Speaker 1: a way that gave me like a comedic way in
Speaker 1: whereas industry like I just have to give it another
Speaker 1: shot because it's everyone loves it. No. I yeah, of
Speaker 1: course everyone loves it, but I kind of on this season. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I think I think next episode Joel
Speaker 1: is on. We just have to push past it. It's like,
Speaker 1: so someone Lauren Mandel's father, Lord Mandel, who helps us
Speaker 1: produce the Culture Awards every year, Miracle Worker, we got
Speaker 1: done over her last night and she was we hadn't
Speaker 1: seen her in a while, and she was saying how
Speaker 1: her father went to the Culture Awards and he said,
Speaker 1: and I think this is kind of maybe this is
Speaker 1: helpful for you, Like he was, like, I felt like
Speaker 1: I was in a foreign country. I did not know
Speaker 1: what the hell was being set on stage or around me,
Speaker 1: but I could not stop smiling and laughing. And I
Speaker 1: think it's the It's maybe it's that same thing of
Speaker 1: like this is a foreign language, and you will but
Speaker 1: you will be swept up in the sort of the
Speaker 1: ethos of it, you know, like it's that that is
Speaker 1: what's being sold to you and I that's that's what
Speaker 1: we love about television, right It's like, oh, we're in
Speaker 1: an like we're in a world for a bit. I
Speaker 1: will say the first season I watched, I believe it's
Speaker 1: the first episode, there is a scene in Industry when
Speaker 1: like it's these two gay guys and like one of
Speaker 1: them just sort of rolls up to the other's apartment
Speaker 1: and that you can tell they're like so fucking horny
Speaker 1: for each other. And there is in this scene literally
Speaker 1: just like they start making out, the one guy throws
Speaker 1: the other guy on the couch, takes his pants off
Speaker 1: and just literally enters the guy full tilt okay right away.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a fantasy. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: just took this cock immediately. And I was like, can
Speaker 1: I say something, I fucking wish that's why they do
Speaker 1: it in the UK. That's that's a British thing. No
Speaker 1: way he is. Would you know you fucking wore no
Speaker 1: you fanny. I know what you've been doing. You're shaking
Speaker 1: your fanny all around the Soho area London. You're such
Speaker 1: a horror. Bowen I Bowen yang hohrr. It's really cool
Speaker 1: to number eight. You imagine bo and Yang horror. The
Speaker 1: point is, well, we should get into industry. I guess
Speaker 1: it'll fill some sub session shape hole. I mean we
Speaker 1: talk about should we talk about how the Vultagati whole
Speaker 1: piece about how like trying to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of why The Morning Show got so many Emmy nominations,
Speaker 1: like everyone's such a hater, but I think, but like,
Speaker 1: I think the reason that I'm taking away, the big
Speaker 1: thing that I'm taking away is because it's the first
Speaker 1: post succession year at the Emmys, right, it was not. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just say this. I think The Morning Show is great,
Speaker 1: Like I think it is what it is. I think
Speaker 1: it's an incredible soap, and I think it doesn't a
Speaker 1: pad just for being a soap. I think it leans
Speaker 1: all the way in and it's very good at that.
Speaker 1: So the category that it should compete in is drama,
Speaker 1: and it's a soapy drama. And I think if it's
Speaker 1: good at being that and people are watching it and
Speaker 1: it's delivering on the promise of the premise, if you
Speaker 1: would then give it its Emmy nominations. I think it
Speaker 1: doesn't pretend to not be a show where Reese Witherspoon
Speaker 1: goes to space, right, And so I think people are
Speaker 1: taking issue with it being rewarded, which I think is
Speaker 1: not the thing, that's not the conversation to be here.
Speaker 1: Can I say this is a huge stretch, but it's
Speaker 1: a little misogynist to me, I think a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this thing that's like soapy and
Speaker 1: delivers and you know, has us talking, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I look forward to it a lot because
Speaker 1: I watch it and I scream laughing and I'm dying
Speaker 1: watching it, and I'm the biggest fan of it. I
Speaker 1: know what, It's ridiculous. You hear me talk about the
Speaker 1: third graders like literally on a ride to heaven and
Speaker 1: hell at the same time writing this show. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, like, it is really good at being that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is a form of entertainment. So just because
Speaker 1: you're not like crying real here is and racked with
Speaker 1: like emotions after watching something in a real, like grounded
Speaker 1: way does not mean that it's not worth its salt.
Speaker 1: And I feel like to hold against it its tone
Speaker 1: and its genre is a little misogynist to me if
Speaker 1: we're really gonna argue about like what it is at the.
Speaker 3: Base to write it off as like fluffy or pulpy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: feel like I get like people looking at.
Speaker 1: It and being like, oh, everyone from the show is nominated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a particularly competitive television Emmy year, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that's why I got in there.
Speaker 1: Shut up, that's not literally not I'm sure I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: but I will say, like, and I've on the record
Speaker 1: about this. Anytime it feels like three or four shows
Speaker 1: are nominated for everything, it doesn't mean those things were
Speaker 1: that much better than everything else. It means the campaigns worked,
Speaker 1: it means the money talked, and it means that probably
Speaker 1: wasn't that competitive of a year. And also like those
Speaker 1: things are probably quality, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And we're here to say that the Morning Show is quality.
Speaker 3: Like I read I read this piece and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: but it's also just like it is like the biggest
Speaker 3: drama on television right now besides like Showgun and whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Showgun. I think Showgun is taking everything. Showgun
Speaker 1: is taking everything. But we're saying but like just let it.
Speaker 1: Let Morning Show, have have the w and also like
Speaker 1: for the reasons that everyone is saying it's not gonna win,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, like because people have
Speaker 1: already like there's like this like weird kick up about
Speaker 1: like and I think we do contribute to it, because
Speaker 1: I get on here and I say, it's the most
Speaker 1: insane show ever. Wettribute to it. We contribute to it
Speaker 1: in the right way, and we have it a good
Speaker 1: authority that the people at Apple TV love it. All
Speaker 1: I know is that there's no notes from i'd. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard anyone be like, wow, you guys are really
Speaker 1: rough on that show. No, it's very clearly we if
Speaker 1: it's show enough. Actually, you know what, I hope it wins,
Speaker 1: scream you know. I've wanted an Emmy and Jennifer Amiston's
Speaker 1: hands for that part for a very long time. Of course,
Speaker 1: did you have Winter Friends? No, she did win for Friends.
Speaker 1: She went when Oh yeah, she did win for Friends.
Speaker 1: The Emmy winners from Friends are Jennifer Aniston and Lisa Kudro.
Speaker 1: Never none of the guys, none of the guys ever
Speaker 1: won an Emmy for Friends. Nominations came, but they did
Speaker 1: not get the w I would say that the most
Speaker 1: underrated person on that show is Coordinay definitely, Monica holds
Speaker 1: the center. It's not Rachel, it's Monica. It's her house.
Speaker 1: Four four I want them to know it was me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was four. I it's always four. It's always four,
Speaker 1: number five, it's sometimes five, it's always four. Is it
Speaker 1: a good day when it's five? The coaching number nineteen?
Speaker 1: When not sneezes it's times five is five, but it's
Speaker 1: always always. Is it a good Is it lucky if
Speaker 1: you get to five it a lucky day? Or at
Speaker 1: that point? Oh? So this is bizarre, But my grandmother
Speaker 1: and I share that when we get full, like when
Speaker 1: we've eaten enough, we sneeze four times.
Speaker 3: I just started acupuncture, and I think this is something
Speaker 3: that you can be addressed. Yes, well, can you say
Speaker 3: if it's gonna address it by making me stop sneezing.
Speaker 3: I don't want that because I love to sneeze more
Speaker 3: than I love to come, and I love to come.
Speaker 1: And I love to come.
Speaker 3: What is coming if not sneezing from your dick, from
Speaker 3: the bottom, from your deck, from your fanny, from your fanny?
Speaker 3: What is shitting if not sneezing from your eyth that's
Speaker 3: from one division.
Speaker 1: Wait, shall we discuss the Agatha trailers? Yes, sure, they
Speaker 1: look pretty fun. They look pretty fun. I'm excited. Yes,
Speaker 1: So she's a made it Patty Lapone little guy from
Speaker 1: heart Stopper or whatever. Joe Locke, Joe Locke, that is
Speaker 1: a show that you will never hear us talking about
Speaker 1: because we are simply not in the right demo that
Speaker 1: Heart Stopper. Yeah, I've tried so many times at that show,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm not. I need to accept
Speaker 1: that this is not made for me, and that's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're having strife about it. No, it's
Speaker 1: not strife.
Speaker 3: It's just I think everyone, especially maybe people our age,
Speaker 3: feel this like global sense of having to consume everything
Speaker 3: because we're like, I don't know, maybe we feel like
Speaker 3: we're right in the middle and we're a bridge between
Speaker 3: generations and so therefore we should like look at both
Speaker 3: sides or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like. But I think maybe I'm getting to.
Speaker 3: The age now as a thirty three year old man
Speaker 3: where I'm like, oh, this high school drama d about
Speaker 3: two gay guys or whatever, or try a bunch of
Speaker 3: queer is like not for some reason, it's not for me,
Speaker 3: and that's okay, But there was a time when it
Speaker 3: was and I would have loved this if I was
Speaker 3: half my age, but unfortunately I'm double that age.
Speaker 1: Part of me feels like, you know, that question of like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish that this were around when I was younger.
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely true. Like I think had I
Speaker 1: been in high school and I saw like love Simon,
Speaker 1: I think I would have been like encouraged because I
Speaker 1: would have been I would have seen my peers go
Speaker 1: see that movie, et cetera. I'm really I Ever, when
Speaker 1: that movie came out and like, you know, like all
Speaker 1: the coolest people in America had things to say about
Speaker 1: like why it was problematic and stuff, I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: kind of missing the point because like it's hard stopper
Speaker 1: at that time, like it's just not for you, it's
Speaker 1: for like it's honestly frustraight people to literally be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm an ally and supporting him. I'm Jennifer Gardner. I
Speaker 1: can understand in a very basic way what's happening here.
Speaker 1: This kid is stressed out because he feels like can't
Speaker 1: be himself, et cetera. Whatever. It doesn't have to speak
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's it was just like a little you know,
Speaker 1: the door was a jar at that moment. But sometimes
Speaker 1: I think, like going back to when I was that
Speaker 1: age and I would just like watch like high school
Speaker 1: musical and high school musical too, and it was just
Speaker 1: like these these straight people. I remember like feeling like
Speaker 1: there was like a I had like a melancholy while
Speaker 1: I watched it the whole time, like a little gay kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I'm so I love watching this, but
Speaker 1: it's just not for me. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: this sensation is, but I wouldn't replace that melancholy in
Speaker 1: my life, Like I kind of it's a yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not that I liked not having that representation, because that's
Speaker 1: not true. But there's something about like me now where
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I didn't have those types of things
Speaker 1: that not happy, but like I can appreciate not having
Speaker 1: them then because I know it's important now. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's it's like the absence of
Speaker 1: those things from when we we're younger, aids and like
Speaker 1: helps the helps citation now, yeah, because you can point
Speaker 1: to that moment as like oh, I want to be
Speaker 1: able to right from this kind of pathos or whatever.
Speaker 1: But also you're thinking, like I know how to cope
Speaker 1: with this feeling from now on. And so it's like
Speaker 1: it's the reason why we're having this conversation. Now we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not for us, or like we like we are
Speaker 1: outside of the circle for this, and that's okay, Like
Speaker 1: there's we're gonna we're gonna survive that we're not. There's
Speaker 1: no like dire limbic brain evolutionary need for us to
Speaker 1: be in the in that minx. Yeah, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny, like I think back and sometimes I wonder like,
Speaker 1: am I going to be part of a generation that
Speaker 1: looks back and is resentful of the fact, that looks
Speaker 1: down at the younger generation and is resentful about the
Speaker 1: opportunities they have? And because I could sense that sometimes
Speaker 1: from the generation up and yeah and those above us,
Speaker 1: that there's like sometimes it's like when a new generation
Speaker 1: has it easier based on whatever minority you occupy or
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're facing, there's the opportunity to
Speaker 1: be a little resentful of that upcoming generation because it
Speaker 1: upset that you didn't have that, And I guess, like
Speaker 1: the way that I'm looking at things like this now
Speaker 1: is I don't regret the piece of me that formed
Speaker 1: emotionally when I felt like I didn't have those things,
Speaker 1: And it makes me really happy for like the new
Speaker 1: generation that has this representation and has these shows to
Speaker 1: look forward to. Almost because of the fact that I
Speaker 1: like the like almost grief I had about like not
Speaker 1: having that or like that's what it ended up turning into,
Speaker 1: I think has made me the type of person and
Speaker 1: the type of artists and the type of creator I
Speaker 1: am right now. So it's not a thing where I'm
Speaker 1: looking back and being like I wish I had been
Speaker 1: able to see two high school boys kiss on a
Speaker 1: Ferris wheel, right, and it's like, I'm really happy that's
Speaker 1: there now. I don't regret not having that because I
Speaker 1: think it actually made me who I am to feel
Speaker 1: like there was a missing thing in culture that was that,
Speaker 1: And I'm not claiming to occupy the space where that
Speaker 1: is represented now. What I'm saying is I like what
Speaker 1: it did for me as a person ultimately to be
Speaker 1: lacking that at the time, You're not disoriented in that
Speaker 1: place if you feel that for now, because you will
Speaker 1: feel that way throughout your whole life of being like,
Speaker 1: oh I wish that was for me. Like am I
Speaker 1: making sense? Well, it's like in high school, like when
Speaker 1: you're upset the whole time because all your straight friends
Speaker 1: have girlfriends and boyfriends and you don't you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't want to go back and have
Speaker 1: a maybe I would, or I guess what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it's like I don't regret the way that things
Speaker 1: need turned out for some reason, this is making me
Speaker 1: think about First of all, that is like such a
Speaker 1: cogent thing that you're saying, thanks, just thinking about like
Speaker 1: the way we might become an older generation that like
Speaker 1: looks at a younger one and is resentful. Like it's
Speaker 1: making me think about not that I'm bringing this up
Speaker 1: and like she warning this in, but like this interview
Speaker 1: magazine thing with Chaparone came out where she and I talked,
Speaker 1: and then someone was talking to me about it and
Speaker 1: saying like it was just so nice to see like
Speaker 1: someone of like a differently queer microgeneration like reach out
Speaker 1: and like give her like you know, talk to her
Speaker 1: and give her a hug and not make it feel transaction.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, were things and then and then.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, because I guess I was like,
Speaker 3: is this how like older gay men, like gay men
Speaker 3: who were older than Gaga when she was first starting out,
Speaker 3: Like is this how they felt towards her? Or I
Speaker 3: thought were they a little too wrapped up in the
Speaker 3: Madonna of it all? Like were they trying to like
Speaker 3: be loyal to Madonna? And therefore, like maybe Gaga did
Speaker 3: not feel that same sense of like although what am
Speaker 3: I saying? Of course she did, but like maybe she
Speaker 3: she and someone did not feel that same sense of
Speaker 3: like communal protection around her the way that like like
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine Gaga feeling resentful towards Chapel and
Speaker 3: the way that like Madonna definitely was towards Gaga.
Speaker 1: Well, it's no longer cool to have that mentality. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that. And also we are in a culture now
Speaker 1: where it would be incredibly like a huge alarm bell
Speaker 1: and red flag if Lady Gaga looked down at Chapelone
Speaker 1: and was like fuck yeah in the way that. And
Speaker 1: also we're not in a We're not necessarily or they're
Speaker 1: maybe not feeling as much the need to give into
Speaker 1: the thing the media does of pitting women against yeah,
Speaker 1: other women and older women against younger women, whatever, women
Speaker 1: against women in general. Like that's it. We've called that
Speaker 1: out to such an extent right now that if Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga were to be like Chapel roones like this and
Speaker 1: this is not happening, but like whatever, copying me or
Speaker 1: like you know in my image, et cetera, in the
Speaker 1: way that Madonna would hint, right but which is not
Speaker 1: again not happening, it would be received less than badly. Definitely,
Speaker 1: it would go through the floor. And I also wanted
Speaker 1: to say about that interview piece, like I was reading
Speaker 1: it and I was like, Bowen was the perfect person
Speaker 1: to do this, because you're both queer but occupy different
Speaker 1: sub sects of what that means. But also, I think
Speaker 1: the thing that's happening with Chapel and it almost feels
Speaker 1: like weird to even comment on it in the wake
Speaker 1: of having the knowledge about this, but this thing that
Speaker 1: is happening with her, about the very sudden, very accelerated
Speaker 1: rise to superstardom, I think that you actually can speak
Speaker 1: to that, you like accelerated SNL in a very very
Speaker 1: very fast way. I mean, you were featured cast member,
Speaker 1: like who occupied like a space on that show pretty
Speaker 1: immediately and were nominated for an Emmy, the first ever
Speaker 1: to feature cast member to be nominated for an Emmy.
Speaker 1: And also, like we talked about a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: like you serve a purpose on that show as like
Speaker 1: a representative for it and a star of it. And
Speaker 1: I think that happened like relatively quickly. So No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't six weeks of like chapel releases like like good
Speaker 1: Luck Babe, and then it's like all of a sudden whatever.
Speaker 1: But I thought that what was so compelling about your
Speaker 1: conversation was that you were giving her advice, maybe without
Speaker 1: even thinking about that, but in sharing your experience and
Speaker 1: in hearing her, it felt like these are two people
Speaker 1: that lived a similar type of thing, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's compelling to see them have this conversation, especially in
Speaker 1: the wake of everything she's going through, which is her
Speaker 1: discomfort with her level of notoriety. So quickly, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you were that was something that you experienced, yes, and
Speaker 1: that was something I struggled with. It was a really
Speaker 1: nice conversation. We obviously root for her. They did, and
Speaker 1: I have to say again, edit out the part where
Speaker 1: I said my best friend Matt on the car. I know,
Speaker 1: but still I was like a rature of lust culture.
Speaker 1: Should we tell the story of that night? What?
Speaker 3: No, No, we can't tell this of that night.
Speaker 1: I'm rereah. We were. I was depressed, Bowen was depressed.
Speaker 1: We were in different I was in London. You were
Speaker 1: in La. You were in London. I was in La.
Speaker 1: I had just seen chapeerone and I had just seen
Speaker 1: Chaperone at the Fonda, and I had been taking for
Speaker 1: an emotional ride. I texted Bone, Oh my god, Chapelone
Speaker 1: is the new girl. You have to get into her,
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, this is a four alarm thing.
Speaker 1: Like she's the next Lady Gaga, I said her. I
Speaker 1: text Bowen and Bowen ignored my text and posted a
Speaker 1: picture of him and Ariano. Mattic me arian omatic. Also
Speaker 1: it was like four am. I was in a car
Speaker 1: on this on the way to Wicked, to the Wicked set.
Speaker 1: I was so delirious from the travel and the SNL
Speaker 1: week the week before, and like just so discombobulated in
Speaker 1: a way, in a degree that was dissociative and I
Speaker 1: had I had a full breakdown later on that summer,
Speaker 1: and so Matt like I was just getting home from
Speaker 1: like a bender, I would say on one because I
Speaker 1: saw Chapel and like this is wow. You were so like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like Ryle drunk, drunk. I was wasted,
Speaker 1: probably doing other things. And I remember I had been
Speaker 1: so lit up from Chapel. I went out and who
Speaker 1: and then whatever the fuck happened, I think I met
Speaker 1: up with a couple friends and I came home and
Speaker 1: I had texted my one and he was he had
Speaker 1: not responded, but he did post a picture of him
Speaker 1: in Ariano Maddox and I was just like, and I
Speaker 1: remember I texted you. I was like, how come you
Speaker 1: get posted a picture of Ariontomatics and you and you
Speaker 1: can't even respond to my text about Chapel. Roan and
Speaker 1: bowm was just like I am depressed, period. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm depressed too, and we just cut
Speaker 1: and then and then I were screaming fight on History.
Speaker 1: And then this phone call transferred from the car that
Speaker 1: dropped me off at base camp on Wicked to my trailer.
Speaker 1: The PA's were about to ask me for my breakfast order.
Speaker 1: But before they could knock on my door, they absolutely
Speaker 1: heard me scream at the top of my lungs. We
Speaker 1: were screaming at each other. We were screaming at each other.
Speaker 1: This was a this was it was really bad. This
Speaker 1: was the still lag might depths of our friendship. Honestly,
Speaker 1: this was a bad moment of the friendship. No, can
Speaker 1: I say how many fights have we had like that
Speaker 1: in our entire friendship? Free? Yeah? Four? But if you
Speaker 1: know what we always do, let's say ninety percent of
Speaker 1: the time it resolves in that same conversation of course,
Speaker 1: Like would you say that that one did? Yes? It
Speaker 1: literally did, because remember I started sobbing and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is about other things. I was like, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry and I don't right and both of us were like,
Speaker 1: sob come on. Yeah. I think we were all like,
Speaker 1: what is what's happening? Like this is something like beyond
Speaker 1: our control. But it was. It's so funny the origin
Speaker 1: the the seed crystal of that the powder keg was
Speaker 1: Chapel Road. It literally was atomatics and Ari automatics. It's
Speaker 1: these two women talk about a fucking time capsule. It
Speaker 1: was like it was the night I just I really
Speaker 1: discovered Chapel Roon and I went to Bowen and I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know what it was. I was
Speaker 1: so positive you would love her, of course, and the
Speaker 1: only concern I had was that you do that. And also,
Speaker 1: I'll just say vulnerable thing for me, I am very
Speaker 1: sensitive to when I send a text. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I will say someone, but I will say you a text,
Speaker 1: and then like there's response on group chats or like
Speaker 1: you posting elsewhere. It just it it drives me crazy
Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm being ignored and then I
Speaker 1: think you're mad at me, and I'm very sensitive to that.
Speaker 1: And so that's what it was. And also me being
Speaker 1: that drunk, but you were and you were going through
Speaker 1: so much, and I just we were both going through it.
Speaker 1: We both were, but I in that moment, you know,
Speaker 1: Achilles Heel, I think I just got in my feelings
Speaker 1: and made it a little about something about me and
Speaker 1: about something else, and I immediately broke the fuck down
Speaker 1: because I really what I was doing. And I think
Speaker 1: it's like one of those times when it's like when
Speaker 1: you get so upset or you get so angry and
Speaker 1: you get so hurt and you realize it's like you're
Speaker 1: aware of the fact that like, oh, I'm not doing well.
Speaker 1: It's not about this, I'm just not doing well. It's
Speaker 1: such a bad feeling when that kind of realization sets
Speaker 1: in and you're like, oh, fuck, I am not okay.
Speaker 1: And I was out of a way out of pocket,
Speaker 1: way out of pocket.
Speaker 3: Well, there were just substances involved on your end, and
Speaker 3: there was sleep deprivation involved on my end. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was not a worst mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the versions of us that are
Speaker 1: not great collided. Oh God, anyway, but that is that
Speaker 1: is the first time I said to bow in Chapel
Speaker 1: roone and that, yeah, I showed you a horse that
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love. I'm like, actly, I'm throwing
Speaker 1: my head back. Yeah, And it probably did last like
Speaker 1: what fifteen sixteen minutes. But when I tell you sometimes,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like four or five times in my
Speaker 1: life I have heard this sound come out of my body,
Speaker 1: which is like I've never heard Baar scream, to the
Speaker 1: point where I was like, oh, like I am I
Speaker 1: screwed back at you kind of in the same timber
Speaker 1: you did. You did.
Speaker 3: It did not feel good. I'm a screamer. I when
Speaker 3: I scream, I fucking scream.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like I've gotten into arguments with you
Speaker 1: like this, Like again once enough the Bluest Moon, Sudie
Speaker 1: and Night years ago got into it on this It
Speaker 1: always happens on the street really late at night, and
Speaker 1: we got into it on the street in front of
Speaker 1: our parsel a moment in such an insane, like rabid way.
Speaker 1: I would say, this is very healthy. No one needs
Speaker 1: to be alarmed, Like this is just something that like friends,
Speaker 1: friends do, like it's it's blood letting. It's like emotional
Speaker 1: blood letting. And this is just depending on the friendship.
Speaker 1: This this is helpful keep going well. I mean literally,
Speaker 1: it only happens with people that you really care about,
Speaker 1: because I think the only other person that I've gotten
Speaker 1: like that with is my father, Like in high school,
Speaker 1: that sort of disconnect between father and son, Like was
Speaker 1: the last time I can remember being a that upset.
Speaker 1: But it was it was again about a million about
Speaker 1: well not a million other things, about one big other thing, sure.
Speaker 3: But then a million other things in its orbit within that. Yes, yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: that's the birth story of chapelone.
Speaker 1: I think I was also incredibly jealous that you had
Speaker 1: a picture with Ariano. At the time, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so you can post a picture with Arionomatics it cancer Sandrasano.
Speaker 1: My text, I was like, I want a picture with Orionomatics,
Speaker 1: and then I just I went off the deep end.
Speaker 1: We're such gay guys.
Speaker 4: Oh ultimately, yeah, ultimately yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, speaking of Gaga, we just kind of brush. We
Speaker 1: need to talk about Die with a Smile. I love
Speaker 1: Die with a Smile. It is my new favorite music
Speaker 1: is a bad music? Is so you say? Now? In
Speaker 1: August twenty music has been really ripping and hello this weekend? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on there? Is? There's so much Lisa has
Speaker 1: a new song with Rosilia. Oh yeah, Flow has a
Speaker 1: new EP, has a new single from their Epea shows,
Speaker 1: the new Tanasha EP Quantum maybe incredible note book boys
Speaker 1: across that line.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with Yeah, Tanash is it. We haven't talked
Speaker 3: about Addison Ray. We haven't talked about Die Pepsi Forever
Speaker 3: by Charlie Bliss. Amazing new album by Charlie Bliss. If
Speaker 3: you don't know them, wonderful pop pump band. They're going
Speaker 3: on tour soon. And just I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 3: like excited. Oh my god, there's a new girl, Zolita.
Speaker 3: Everyone should listen to. You are gonna fucking love this
Speaker 3: low lady with the z Queen of Hearts.
Speaker 1: It's like it's an EP album eight track, so it's
Speaker 1: like in that right in that middle zone, that liminal space.
Speaker 1: But she's got like dance pop, some country pops moments.
Speaker 1: You are gonna fucking love her all over again. All
Speaker 1: Girls go to Heaven, small town scandal, what if I mean?
Speaker 1: So good?
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, that's my every episode in the year twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four of Louts culture is going to be about music, period.
Speaker 3: Buckle up, strap yourself in wait.
Speaker 1: I haven't even sat on the pod yet, but the
Speaker 1: song Katie Gavin Katie I Love After Serious and it
Speaker 1: hit me hard of when I finally listened to it
Speaker 1: because I get it, and like I texted Katie and
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that we share a heart
Speaker 1: and a brain because she just always says the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's with Muna and now her solo stuff,
Speaker 1: like obviously I'm the biggest Moonistan, but like I'm just
Speaker 1: so excited for her new music. I'm so excited for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said time and time again, I think
Speaker 1: that she as a vocalist and a writer, like is
Speaker 1: one of our generation's greats. To use the word generation
Speaker 1: for the millionth time today, just like how there's a
Speaker 1: million people out there in the world. But I love her.
Speaker 1: I love her, I love her.
Speaker 3: She's in casual drug use the new song from the album.
Speaker 3: But she, I mean, she was so generous with us
Speaker 3: after Culture Award. She sent us the full album. The
Speaker 3: full album is incredible.
Speaker 1: It's just people are gonna I mean, it's not even
Speaker 1: like people, how could you ever be surprised? Like she's brilliant,
Speaker 1: Like they're so great and okay to just to speak
Speaker 1: about the Addison ray of it all. So I had
Speaker 1: a tug of war in my mind. I had a
Speaker 1: war in my mim mind, as Lana would say. But
Speaker 1: I'm so happy I just decided to ride and really
Speaker 1: have into this song because wow, it's so much fun
Speaker 1: and it's so great. The production of her music is
Speaker 1: sometimes like, well, I guess it has it kind of
Speaker 1: has to be like but it's ten No, I don't
Speaker 1: think she doesn't know the first one of the number
Speaker 1: one things I like about Addison Ray in this recording
Speaker 1: artist era is how self aware of the fact, yeah
Speaker 1: she is that, like, yeah, she's Addison Ray. She's doing
Speaker 1: this thing. She had a very clear reference here, and
Speaker 1: it's Lama Deel Ray and she's ahead of it and
Speaker 1: really aware of it. And I think that's what makes
Speaker 1: the song and the music video so strong, is the
Speaker 1: fact that it gets to like riff on Lana actively
Speaker 1: because it's aware at the front, and it's all complimentary
Speaker 1: and revel and like is in reverence, and the song's
Speaker 1: also fucking fun.
Speaker 3: What do you make of the song originally being called
Speaker 3: back Seat but then miss Charlie XCX goes change it
Speaker 3: to die Pepsi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think Charlie XCX knows.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually really coaching number thirty. Charlie xxx
Speaker 1: knows she was exactly right. I think dietpepsi is so
Speaker 1: much like more to use my best friend's word, serrated. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it pops more than vaccine. Diet pepsi makes you.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're never gonna forget that it's dietpepsi because
Speaker 1: it's so it's like fringe. Diet pepsi is fucking fringe. Well,
Speaker 1: diepepsi is like fringe. Culture is eternal, is an eternal
Speaker 1: thing in the culture that has always been there, will
Speaker 1: always be there. And it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: makes you go oh yeah. And then for this girl
Speaker 1: to write a song about it that is not really
Speaker 1: about diet pepsi in the end, not at all, is
Speaker 1: kind of incredible. But we're such diet coke girlies, speaking
Speaker 1: of which it's so good. We need to pay respects
Speaker 1: as the internet in the world already has to Delta
Speaker 1: work to forget it.
Speaker 3: To the diet Coke. I've watched it five times. It
Speaker 3: is the pinnacle. Is a moment in culture.
Speaker 1: It is a moment in culture. We might have to
Speaker 1: have a new list because Delta Works Diet Coke Challenge
Speaker 1: is a moment in culture. Watch it if you haven't,
Speaker 1: if you have watched it again, it is. It's the
Speaker 1: most impressive thing. It is us scream.
Speaker 3: I remember watching it the first time and going, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's amazing. And I think, for some reason,
Speaker 3: I thought that she was told what the five sources
Speaker 3: of die coke were to begin with, and she she
Speaker 3: was well, she was, but she wasn't because at one point,
Speaker 3: when she's drinking the Burger King diet coke, she goes, ooh,
Speaker 3: maybe this is from Panera. So I think I think
Speaker 3: she she went in knowing that they got her die
Speaker 3: cokes from places that she frequents, that it was more
Speaker 3: than five. And so therefore the extra layer of challenge
Speaker 3: in this is that it wasn't just like a oh,
Speaker 3: let me just like do a one to one sort
Speaker 3: of like from the five that I know in my head.
Speaker 3: It was like from all the places that and this
Speaker 3: is someone who goes and is a fast food afficionado, connoisseur,
Speaker 3: Connasu's like knows like there's there's a big range of
Speaker 3: sources of diet coke for her, and she for her
Speaker 3: to willow down to those five incredible.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you the only place? So here's a reveal.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a reveal it is,
Speaker 1: but I used to eat fast food in my twenties.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fat it at least three four times
Speaker 1: a week. At least it was like that it was
Speaker 1: God like the metabolism was doing all the work because
Speaker 1: the forces of evil aka my brain were at play,
Speaker 1: and my instinct was to eat this all the time.
Speaker 1: So and it's to the point and I don't know
Speaker 1: how you feel about this outside of del taco, which
Speaker 1: I don't frequent. I could have done that. I could
Speaker 1: have done the diet coke challenge and every so she's
Speaker 1: walking through why she knows that these cokes are certain.
Speaker 1: Her palate is so refined. I think I could have
Speaker 1: been right there with her, because every single thing she said,
Speaker 1: I was like, Yes, McDonald's soda machines are a little
Speaker 1: bit more carbonated. Yes, the burger. There is a lack
Speaker 1: of pride in the presentation when it comes to the soda.
Speaker 1: It is always a little flat, and there's a little
Speaker 1: bit too much sweetness in it, like a little bit
Speaker 1: too much, like of syrup. It's like a little too much.
Speaker 1: In terms of bottles and cans, there is a huge
Speaker 1: difference to the point where you're like, why the fuck
Speaker 1: are we drinking out of plastic bottles at all? We
Speaker 1: could taste the difference. The only difference is the fact
Speaker 1: that there's plastic in the shit that you're drinking. So
Speaker 1: do not drink out of a plastic bottle, especially if
Speaker 1: can confirm you taste the plastic, you probably have the
Speaker 1: same anatomical tongue as Delta work. Where she's tasting the plastic,
Speaker 1: you're drinking the micro absolutely, but as she's walking through it.
Speaker 1: And then she started to talk about the butt ice.
Speaker 1: But maybe the butt ice is so fucking real, and
Speaker 1: the butt ice is in those like those fast food
Speaker 1: joints that don't take private presentation. It's one. I think
Speaker 1: I could have gotten all of them, but Del Taco
Speaker 1: being first would have thrown me because I don't do
Speaker 1: Del Tacosa my culture.
Speaker 3: She had a whole thing about like, look, they have
Speaker 3: my name in the title, or my name and the
Speaker 3: name Delta. Go anyway, I'm telling you, I think I
Speaker 3: could do a nugget challenge for sure. Burger challenge would
Speaker 3: be easy because like, oh so specific. But she said
Speaker 3: she could do ranch. I was like, oh that's insane.
Speaker 3: Ranch is insane. She said she wanted to do cookie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cookie is like less interesting to me because it's
Speaker 1: like it's hard to make that. Shall we say like
Speaker 1: a blind test? Right? The diet coke is perfect?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has to be through a straw. You can't
Speaker 3: see where it's coming from. What You can only see
Speaker 3: the delivery system and not the actual and there needs
Speaker 3: to be like a consistency around the sort of the
Speaker 3: way it's it's coming into you, Like that's the delivery system, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you said
Speaker 1: delivery system, it made me think of we were driving
Speaker 1: yesterday in West Hollywood and we saw those one of
Speaker 1: those delivery boxes.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's my I don't think so, honey. Let's do it, Typer,
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. This is where we take
Speaker 3: one minute to rail against something in culture. Matt seems
Speaker 3: to have something and I can only emphatically agree with him.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. This is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many time starts now, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. At least in Los Angeles, there's those
Speaker 1: delivery food delivery robots yea boxes on the street. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this sucks. Why are people talking about they're
Speaker 1: taking our jobs? Don't come to West Hollywood. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you who's taking your job? A box? A robot box
Speaker 1: that is, I'm sorry, but not reliable. I could just
Speaker 1: knock that box over and guess who's not getting your
Speaker 1: food thirty seconds. I have no idea why this is
Speaker 1: the case. Why can't we give people the jobs. Let's
Speaker 1: give people the jobs, because guess what could move faster
Speaker 1: than this rolling box on the street. A person, a
Speaker 1: galvanized person who wanted to do a job that day
Speaker 1: because they were making good living. These robot boxes. They're
Speaker 1: bumping into each other in West Hollywood like there's some
Speaker 1: gay guys bumping that bumping that. I'm just I feel
Speaker 1: insulted every time I'm seeing them, because I know they're
Speaker 1: good food in there, and I'm just I want it
Speaker 1: and it's not happening quickly. I don't think so, Honey,
Speaker 1: that's one minute. I don't like it. Their stupid little
Speaker 1: blinking eyes. Stop that and stop trying to make them cute.
Speaker 1: Give me a break, Send a check to Pixar because
Speaker 1: you're trying to make them. Wally, Uh, hello you these boxes.
Speaker 1: You could never be. We could never be, Wally. We're
Speaker 1: going to Disneyland later today. I can't wait. What ride
Speaker 1: are you most excited about doing in Credit Coaster? Of course,
Speaker 1: I've never I don't think i've done cars before. You've
Speaker 1: never done cars? Right? Is that pretty new? Again? I
Speaker 1: have not been in five years. Oh my god, So
Speaker 1: this new thing is happening. Where I realized my concept
Speaker 1: of how much time has passed is like not good,
Speaker 1: because I said, bowe, what are you talking about? We
Speaker 1: want a couple of years ago, and I realized when
Speaker 1: I took you it was pre pre COVID pre COVID. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's maybe we didn't get on radiator springs racers,
Speaker 1: but I will trust and believe we will get on
Speaker 1: it today. It's my favorite and we will be going
Speaker 1: to the Little Mermaid Ride. All right. She's the most
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in the world. Ariel. Yes, I guess it's
Speaker 1: weird that I even had asked the question, huh, who
Speaker 1: else in Ursula? I think Ursula is a ursula and
Speaker 1: a beauty by language. I just you cannot if you
Speaker 1: are not at all attracted to Ursula, stop lying to yourself.
Speaker 1: You're in denial, bitch. God. That is that is pure
Speaker 1: raw sexual power. It's sexual energy. Ursula shows up and says,
Speaker 1: dare you to think anything other than what I would
Speaker 1: be like rocking your world tonight in my cave, in
Speaker 1: my cave, tentacles all up in your fanny. You're about
Speaker 1: to get sucked in by my fanny.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Disney doing the tit jiggle when she's
Speaker 3: shimmys and poor unfortunate souls. They would never get away
Speaker 3: with that, They would never do it now, But that
Speaker 3: is so important, huge Like her tits are shaking as
Speaker 3: they draw closer to the screen.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've lost the way. I'm ready, No here, okay,
Speaker 1: put me on the clock. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: I love it. This is Bowen Yang's fresh out the oven,
Speaker 1: fresh Aupislama. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. What is the current state
Speaker 1: of the Disney villains? We are just treading on nostalgia
Speaker 1: for the past what two decades? They'll name the last
Speaker 1: great Disney villain? The best I can come up with
Speaker 1: is King Candy Slash Turbo and Wrecket Ralph, voiced by
Speaker 1: the incomparable Allan Tutic voice acting legend, comedy legend, big
Speaker 1: hunk legend. But other than that, I can't think of
Speaker 1: the last great Disney villain because maybe they're too afraid
Speaker 1: to give you like a big popping Disney villain, because
Speaker 1: it's like they absolutely are because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want the kids to sympathize with them too
Speaker 1: much or like identify with them. It is so important
Speaker 1: for children to identify with villainy on some degree so
Speaker 1: that you can develop some kind of compassion or understanding
Speaker 1: or complex emotional knowledge of how the human condition is.
Speaker 1: You need a good villain in order to move through
Speaker 1: this world, in order to sort of you have fun
Speaker 1: with it, in order to be participati of life. You
Speaker 1: need a good Disney villain. And we've lost that thread
Speaker 1: for years now. And that's why a minute, it's a
Speaker 1: symptom of something larger, which is just fear in general.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's just so I guess, like the
Speaker 1: Disney villains used to be so queer coded. Yeah, Now
Speaker 1: in a world where they're so afraid of like hinting
Speaker 1: at any queerness or like acknowledging any queerness or like,
Speaker 1: you know, it just feels like things get softer and
Speaker 1: softer and softer. Lost, we've lost even that element of it. Also,
Speaker 1: these villains are supposed to stand in for something. They're
Speaker 1: supposed to represent something else, something in society that is
Speaker 1: an evil, whether it's like you know, greed or control
Speaker 1: or unchecked power, and the fact is like, you can't
Speaker 1: really soririze that stuff when you are that, when you
Speaker 1: represent all those things here.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like, wait a minute, like
Speaker 3: you are, there's a fear of self examination going on
Speaker 3: here where you're like, well, wait, we can't make Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's also just from a storytelling perspective, like it's at
Speaker 1: this point it would be boring for another movie to
Speaker 1: come out, and the villain is actually my own doubts,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Give me a fucking break.
Speaker 1: Stop it. Put someone in a crazy fucking outfit, have
Speaker 1: them have an overdrawn physical feature whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: have them talk like a gay and to have them
Speaker 1: tear it up and give them a big song. I
Speaker 1: missed Scar, I miss I miss your uncle Scar, who
Speaker 1: was so pissed that he had to sing be prepared
Speaker 1: while his hyaenas gooned around him. Excuse me, that was
Speaker 1: culture and that was intro to gooning one oh one
Speaker 1: the hyenas. That's a rule of culture. Yes, sorry, one
Speaker 1: more time so we can say it together. The hyenas
Speaker 1: in Lion King Thanking. What rule of culture is that
Speaker 1: twelve It's real culture number twelve, Lion King that was
Speaker 1: intro to gooning one oh one. Especially d Ed was
Speaker 1: goooning the entire time, Like, come on, we're so scared
Speaker 1: of being raw. It just makes these things so boring.
Speaker 1: And you know what's also annoying. You know who had
Speaker 1: a good villain, The Princess and the Frog had a
Speaker 1: great villain. Was a great villain, and they made this
Speaker 1: Disney ride and like so the Prince, the Princess Tazi's
Speaker 1: value dip has replaced Splash Mountain. And the big complaint
Speaker 1: about that ride is there's no like dramatic tension. There's
Speaker 1: no element of fear. There's nothing, and they'd even had
Speaker 1: one built in and they refused to do it. God,
Speaker 1: what is that?
Speaker 3: Like they don't want the kids Like is it the
Speaker 3: parents don't want the kids to be too like they're
Speaker 3: they're afraid to set the kids or something like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's like there's no danger in anything. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's like if anything at Disney,
Speaker 1: Villain is important to like make tangible the fears that
Speaker 1: children have and to give them some sort of model
Speaker 1: to like overcome it or defeat it quote unquote, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's like god, yeah, it's wow. We really just
Speaker 3: like stumbled into this idea that like I think we've
Speaker 3: no one has ever vocalized. We haven't been able to vocalize,
Speaker 3: at least on this show. Like the Disney maybe Donna
Speaker 3: Murphy as Mother Golf though was the last great Disney villain,
Speaker 3: And even that was like easy for.
Speaker 1: Them to bring out and draw out because like it's
Speaker 1: literally based on something else. It's the end of the story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I guess like the like Frozen is based on
Speaker 1: the Snow in which she was the villain.
Speaker 3: But but in Frozen it's like a sneaky villain, Like
Speaker 3: it's the guy that was the Prince comp was supposed
Speaker 3: to be good all.
Speaker 1: It's like such a cop out, you know. Honestly at
Speaker 1: the time, it was, and I remember being surprised by
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, look like this it's actually this guy.
Speaker 1: But like since then, you just get the sense that
Speaker 1: like that kind of keeps getting repeated. I just would
Speaker 1: encourage like some more straightforward stuff, like it's okay, there
Speaker 1: are evil people out there, yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there are and there are evil things out there
Speaker 1: that that should be personified in these stories. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't all have to be like you have to overcome yourself. No,
Speaker 1: sometimes there are external forces that come in and test you.
Speaker 1: It's not always what's going on in your heir. We
Speaker 1: need like our generations like Pat Carroll and Jonathan Freeman,
Speaker 1: like we need like Willy McCollister to voice like an
Speaker 1: evil lamp or something.
Speaker 3: Maybe we have to create it BO maybe B two.
Speaker 3: Although I will say not to talk about my own resume.
Speaker 3: I couldn't talk about this during the strikes, but I
Speaker 3: voiced a villain in a Netflix film, The Monkey Came
Speaker 3: Check it Out, and that was and I was was
Speaker 3: queer coded. I had a song. It was so much
Speaker 3: fun and I'm so lucky that I got to do it.
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying like it's it's a treat for
Speaker 3: a performer to do, like like there's like it's just
Speaker 3: fun to do, it's fun to watch, Like put it
Speaker 3: back into a movie, into all movies. We need great
Speaker 3: villains back in kids entertainment.
Speaker 1: It's just funny that we're talking about this with Disney too,
Speaker 1: because they just announced the villain's land that they're gonna make.
Speaker 1: So maybe they do know this, but it's like, if
Speaker 1: you know this, then like, let's see more of them created.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's you know what I'm saying, We're getting
Speaker 1: a new princess every other year. It's like, but there
Speaker 1: has not been a canonized New Disney villain in quite
Speaker 1: some time. Did you ever see Wish? I started it
Speaker 1: and I was like, nah, I just can't. It's supposed
Speaker 1: to be Chris Chris Pine. Spine's the villain, is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so? Okay, anyway, I just I had to stop.
Speaker 1: I just think evil it's worth representing. Absolutely absolutely give
Speaker 1: us something to conquer hun that isn't in here. I'm
Speaker 1: doing therapy for that exactly. There should be an evil therapist. Wait.
Speaker 1: The one thing I wanted to talk about that we
Speaker 1: didn't get to was this Trump using Ai Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Oh forget it. It's just so crazy because it's like this,
Speaker 1: this insane, this stupid fucking and this is how you
Speaker 1: know that the discourse has to be so lame and
Speaker 1: watered down on a on like a huge mainstream level,
Speaker 1: because there is no there there to the discourse of
Speaker 1: who is Taylor Swift gonna endorse babe, even in a
Speaker 1: world where she where she is the worst version of
Speaker 1: what people may think she is, which is like a
Speaker 1: brazen capitalist that like only cares about the bottom line,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Even in that world where she, like maybe
Speaker 1: in this made up scenario, does vote for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in the booth, in the privacy of the booth. It
Speaker 1: is so stupid to think that in any world she
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, who makes who writes lyrics like she writes
Speaker 1: a song like the man is the person that she is,
Speaker 1: has publicly denounced Trump before, in many ways, released a
Speaker 1: full documentary about her anger about this. It is crazy
Speaker 1: to assume that she would ever endorse Donald Trump publicly
Speaker 1: standing what she stands for. So why are we talking
Speaker 1: about it? Like, yes, he used her fake AI, but
Speaker 1: like you only allowed him to do that by prolonging
Speaker 1: this thing of like who's she gonna endorse? Like she
Speaker 1: is who she is, if she dances for what she
Speaker 1: stands for, She's gonna come out and say, Kamala. This
Speaker 1: insane thing of like who is it gonna be? It's
Speaker 1: like pay attention for two seconds. I mean, they're just
Speaker 1: kind of using this period until she does say something
Speaker 1: to like I don't know, drive clicks or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like this this AI story is so fucking stupid, so insane,
Speaker 1: and I hope that there is some legal recourse that
Speaker 1: can be taken there because it feels crazy to me
Speaker 1: that he can do that and then post it on
Speaker 1: an official account, and you know, I think it's like
Speaker 1: a from the Trump camp is like, well, there's like
Speaker 1: Swifties for Trump and this is a movement that's growing
Speaker 1: all the time, which is like a lie. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are Taylor Swift fans out there, her being like,
Speaker 1: you know, such a red state and blue state figure
Speaker 1: throughout her career. I'm sure there are Swifties for Trump,
Speaker 1: but like, why are we even allowing him to do that?
Speaker 1: Like she so clearly represents everything that is in opposition
Speaker 1: to what he represents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was a little stoned when you
Speaker 3: were dear. It showed me that and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I can't, Like this isn't real, Like it's so bizarre
Speaker 3: and surreal to me.
Speaker 1: I get that he gets to get away with all
Speaker 1: of his lies because he is who he is, and
Speaker 1: you know, people genuinely just believe what he says. Like,
Speaker 1: we're just in a world now where there's like I
Speaker 1: guess two medias and one is has convinced one half
Speaker 1: of the country and the other has you know, quote
Speaker 1: unquote convinced the other half because they're representing like something
Speaker 1: that resembles more reality, which is that he's a fucking
Speaker 1: he's the villain, you know what I mean, This just
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's so bizarre. We've got into
Speaker 1: a place where like he can even tweet that and
Speaker 1: people would even buy it at all, because you'd have
Speaker 1: to listen to two seconds of her music or understand
Speaker 1: for one second like what she has spoken out about
Speaker 1: and what she's cared about to understand that would never happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he can just do this.
Speaker 3: She would never put on an uncle stand costume and
Speaker 3: have airbrushed skin, hair, everything, stand in front of like
Speaker 3: a brick wall. I think and point and say, I
Speaker 3: want you to vote for Donald Trump. I mean whatever,
Speaker 3: that's just that's just where we're.
Speaker 1: At, like the warped image of it. Well, I just
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we've gotten here. But then the
Speaker 1: other day, my sister showed me something that a relative
Speaker 1: of ours posted and it was like, oh yeah, wow, God,
Speaker 1: people are just gone go. We have to go. We've
Speaker 1: had a busy day of podcasting ahead of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go record two Guys five Rings right now,
Speaker 1: the last episode, the last episodes, but not the last
Speaker 1: of our careers. No, no, our careers will continue. I'm
Speaker 1: saying maybe two guys. We have no idea I two guys.
Speaker 1: Hibrings will continue. We hope to do it again for
Speaker 1: the winter and for god Los Angeles. By the way,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was stuck in traffic for twenty five minutes,
Speaker 1: longer than I should have to cover half a mile
Speaker 1: at three thirty pm on a Monday. Good fucking luck
Speaker 1: Karen Bass at all.
Speaker 3: We love you, Karen, We support but also I don't know,
Speaker 3: not love, but you know what I mean, Like, this
Speaker 3: is gonna be this is gonna be a crazy undertaking.
Speaker 1: But the fucking yeah, I was like was like bolm
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm running really late at the traffic.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's Monday at three o'clock. Imagine Olympics. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I just don't get how they're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. But anyway, we'll say.
Speaker 3: We got a funny email to me. I'll tell you later, Okay.
Speaker 3: We had every episode with the song if.
Speaker 1: The World and tell you if the ball was all.
Speaker 1: I love the cigarette hanging from her mouth. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The choice to have the cigarette in her mouth on
Speaker 1: the record, not just in the video. It's so good,
Speaker 1: perfect Gaga. She did it again always and it too.
Speaker 1: She sounds unel her best singing. So does Bruno, her
Speaker 1: best singing. If the body was Bye Bye Last.
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