1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: I love hearing from listeners, so drop me a line 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com or tweet at 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: me on x I don't know what that's called anymore, 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: but I'm at Carol Krol. So I got this email 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: recently that I'd like to read. A listener writes, I'm 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: a middle school teacher and mom of three young adults. 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: My question is, what are some tangible ways adults can 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: help instill appreciation and pride in our country in young people. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Like Ted Cruz said on the show, entertainment is a 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: huge influence, but there's a small number of rich conservatives 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: who can purchase a production company. What are some ideas 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: for average Americans like me? End quote Now, I love 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: this question. Today is actually the one year anniversary of 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: the release of our book, Stolen Youth Bethany Mendel, who'll 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: actually be interviewing on this episode, and I chronicled all 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: the ways children get indoctrinated by the Left. It's not 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: just at schools, it's in your doctor's office, it's in 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: your library, and so on. I've spent the last year 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: touring just a ton for the book and talking to 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: audiences all over the country, and I've been asked a 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: variation of this question a lot how to talk to 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: teenagers or young adults about a variety of topics, including patriotism. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: The crazy thing that I've learned in the last year 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: is just how rarely parents speak their values to their kids. 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Some things just seem too obvious to stay out loud, 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: so they never do. Recently, the hedge funder Bill Ackman, 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: who has been fighting the good fight with Harvard to 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: make them reconsider some of their really terrible dipolicies, said 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: that his daughter went to Harvard and came out a Marxist. 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Now I don't know anything about their family, but I 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: just wonder how often he talked to her about the 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: amazing and just incredible benefits of capitalism. I don't know 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: how my kids will turn out or what bad ideas 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: they will have, but I can assure you they won't 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: be Communists. I can say definitively that they will love 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: America because it's something we talk about often in our house. 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: They know that their two immigrant parents are proud Americans, 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: and they know my story of how easily I could 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: have had a completely different and demonstratively worse life. It 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: sounds obvious, but say the words to your kids, tell 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: them about what matters to you. Don't let other people 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: fill in their values. Make sure that they know what 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: you stand for and what you believe. Don't think that 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: because you live in a red area, for example, that 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: they will pick it up by Osmosis, I encountered this 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: over and over again. People who lived in red regions 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: of the country just thought they were safe. They thought 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that these crazy ideas is that Bethany and I cover 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: in the book, or something that was happening in New 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: York or San Francisco. And what they found, of course, 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: was that it's happening everywhere, and anybody with any access 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: to your child has the ability to impartner their values 54 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: on them. Don't let that happen. Make it your values 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that they hear about firsts that they hear about most. 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: They can challenge those values. They can argue with you, 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: but make sure you're having the conversation. This is not 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: a show about politics. It is a show about life, 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: and you are your child's best guide on how to live. 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: But you have to actually provide that guidance. Don't shy 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: away from saying the words out loud. In our family, 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: we talk often about how important it is to get 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: married and have a family. We discuss how lucky we 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: feel to be American. We talk about the importance of 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: preserving our Jewish faith. We cover capitalism being the best 66 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: financial system by far, and so on. We don't just 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: assume they'll know have the conversations, say the words. Coming 68 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: up next and interview with Bethany Mendel. Join us after 69 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 70 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: My guest today is the co author my co author 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: of the book Stolen Youth, Bethany Mendel. She's also the 72 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: homeschooling mom of six. Hi, Bethany, you this is funny. 73 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: I know, I know, so do we just like talk? 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: I saw your post the other day from one of 75 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: your kids and he said like, so you just get 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: paid to talk to your friends basically, And I was like, 77 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: that's a pretty sweet gig. And I told my k 78 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: I told my kids that we were doing this day 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: and they were like, but it's not really a podcast. 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 2: You're just talking to your friend. And I said, well, 81 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: we'll record it for other people. To listen to and 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: they found that strange. 83 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really what it is. And people, for some 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: reason enjoy the conversations. So you know this is going 85 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: to be a good one. I mean, you and I 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: have had a lot of interviews together, but obviously I've 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: never interviewed you, so. 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: And I don't have a podcast to like inflict upon 89 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: you yet. 90 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, who knows, who knows what will happen in 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: the future. So I guess let's start off with you've 92 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: been canceled a lot, which one was your favorite? 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting canceled right now, did you know? 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that. What's happening now? 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: So I'm running for a local school board seat and 96 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm a registered Democrat. Oh I mean sure, so I 97 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: said on something by it I'm a Democrat because I am. 98 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: I am a Democrat registered and so I'm getting canceled 99 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: for it. Go away, please, I'm getting canceled because I'm 100 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: faking that I'm a Democrat. Like, but I thought that 101 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: I could identify with whatever I want. Sure, Actually, like legally, 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: if you look at my roater registration, it says Democratic 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: right there. So I'm getting canceled right now. But I'm getting. 104 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of like recanceled because I just 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: announced that I'm running for school, so it's like canceled. 106 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: It's funny. Yeah, right, yeah. 107 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: It's the greatest hits. So I think my favorite cancelation 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: it's tied. Actually one of them is I recall them 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: in the summer of twenty seventeen, and I think it's 110 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: called like the Case for Befriending Neo Nazis or something. 111 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: People take screenshots of the headline so often you'd think 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: I'd remember the headline off the top of my head. 113 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: It's something like why we should befriend neo Nazis, and 114 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: the whole column is like completely uncharacteristic of me. Actually, 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: and I said, like, maybe we should just be nice 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: to people. 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Going through a nice phase at the time. You messed 118 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: me up at the time because you were like, you know, 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: we chose our careers, and these people who yell at 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: us on the internet, we shouldn't go like find their 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: mothers and tell them about it. But like, and I 122 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: was like for a while, I was with you, and 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: then I was like, Bethany's totally wrong. We should completely 124 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: go find these people's mothers and tell them about it, 125 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: So I think. 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: We should find their mothers. But I have found in 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: my conversations with the very the very limited conversations whenever 128 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: I have the bandwidth and I like really get into it, 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: people their stories are dark. Like these are people who 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: are really going through some stuff. People who take the 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: time to sit and go through your Facebook and comment 132 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: on every single one of your pictures. You're a garbage human. 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: You should kill yourself have really dark things going on 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: in their lives. 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I can't I can't excuse them. You've had some dark moments. 136 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I've had some dark moments. I don't go around. You know. 137 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Cat Timp had this point one time that she was like, 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I have never been watching TV and thought, I have 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: to go tell that person that they suck, you know, 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: like hold on, but let me go find them on 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: the internet and tell them that they're ugly. 142 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: Like I think that's I think that's because we're resilient, 143 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: happy people and these people are just dark and sad. 144 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: But that brings me to my other favorite cancelation, which 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: was recent actually, and someone dug up a tweet where 146 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: I like sort of flippantly said I killed my mom 147 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: and I think it was like you know in the 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: days of Twitter, when like things were taken out of context. 149 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I was watching a show that everyone was watching it. 150 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I said it very flippantly and 151 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: everyone was like, oh my god. And I mean I 152 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: took her off life support when I was sixteen because 153 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: she was terminally ill and in multi organ failure. And 154 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: I talk about that in our book and at the time, 155 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: so I don't know if you know this actually, So 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: I wrote that that chapter and then I never looked 157 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: at it again. I couldn't. I couldn't. I was like, 158 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: very difficult to write. I wrote it, and then when 159 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: we got the edits back, I made Seth, my husband, 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: do that chapter for me. I was like, I will 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: do everything else. I mean, you remember the turnaround time. 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: It was so bad, and I was like, you know, 163 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: that's the chapter that Seth is going to do. And 164 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: so I didn't look at that chapter until we got 165 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: the Galley copies and I looked at it and I 166 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: leafed through it and I looked at Seth and I 167 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: was like, this kind of goes on a little too long, 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: Like this story goes on for like two pages too long. 169 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: I really could have cut this and maybe you should 170 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: have as the editor. And he was like, I'm not 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: cutting that right, right, Like that's your story. And I 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: think everyone felt like it went on for two pages 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: too long, but no one felt like they could say that. 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: Really, I know I didn't think. So you were telling 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: a story and I think that it needed to be told. 176 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: And again, this is the darkness that you have not 177 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: allowed to overshadow your life, right, and you've become a 178 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: resilient person, and you the book is about resiliency, is 179 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: about raising resilient children. It all bit so you know, 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: it's just going back to your neo Nazi thing too. 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: It's a it was funny. I know, I know you 182 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: remember this, but basically Alexandrio Casio Cortez made the exact 183 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: same argument that you did, like three years later, and 184 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: she was like, you know, a lot of these neo 185 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Nazis are really messed up, and like maybe if we 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: showed them some kindness and we like tried to like 187 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: talk to them and kind of direct them back onto 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the path. Because when you have somebody that has got 189 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: involved with a dangerous ideology, for example, if it's somebody 190 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: in your family, if you cut them off they're only 191 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: going to get more aligned with that ideology. And so 192 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: the idea of you know, don't talk to these people 193 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: like it doesn't apply to anything except neo Nazis too. 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: Like obviously the left things we should talk to everyone. 195 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I think they think, you know, Israel should be talking 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: to Hamas like right now. But neo Nazis are the 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: only only exception to them. Maybe we could fix them 198 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: rule yep. 199 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, those are my two favorite cancelations. That 200 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: I killed my mother and that I'm a neo Nazi sympathizer. 201 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe that my favorite cancelation of yours didn't 202 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: even come up, which was obviously Grandma Killer. 203 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: You know, a good one. 204 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: That was such a good one. Yeah, it was. It 205 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: was during the pandemic. It was the fall. I'm sorry, 206 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: it was the spring, a spring of twenty twenty May. 207 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: And you said, I don't care if I get called 208 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: Grandma killer. We need to reopen things, and you know, 209 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: your library is going to be closed and your zoo 210 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: is going to be closed, and all of this doesn't 211 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: end up suffering. Were you right about that, Bethany? 212 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: I was right, Carol. Thanks for mentioning that So my 213 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: local zoo has a nonprofit arm that ran every all 214 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: the conservation efforts, all of the education stuff. They had 215 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: summer camps, they had homeschool classes which we took part in. 216 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: So the nonprofit arm of the zoo closed and it's 217 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: a shell of its former self. 218 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Wow. If just somebody had seen that coming. 219 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: You know, someone had seen that coming. But you know, 220 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: unfortunately we had to keep the outdoor zoo closed for 221 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: seventeen months. 222 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: I think I just had to be safe, Bethany, you 223 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: had to have safe outside. Has anybody and I know 224 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: the answer to this, but has anybody apologized to you? No? 225 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Grandma Killer trended nationally and I believe Seth printed you 226 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: out magnets with that. Yeah, that's a good loving husband. 227 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, your cancelation onto a magnet that you could 228 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: put on the fridge. 229 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: It's so funny because I didn't know. I was at 230 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: I think it was at like the chiropractor or something, 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: and I was with a kid there and someone kept 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: on repeatedly calling me. It was someone random too, and 233 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: I finally picked up and I was like, what could 234 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: you possibly have to tell me? And they're like, are 235 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: you okay? And I'm like, was there a nuke that 236 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm unaware of? Like did something happen in Washington? Like what? 237 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: And they told me. I'm like, this is not a 238 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: reason to call me six months. 239 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: It's this happens to me all the time. Click. 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: And then I kept on getting texts and like people 241 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: sent me screenshots of the trending thing and I was like, oh, well, 242 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: I have to go to Amazing Savings and get some 243 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: birthday party stuff, so after that I will pay attention 244 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: to this cancelation. But yeah, no, that was a good one. 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: That was a good one. And then obviously the woke video, 246 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: which is like this backshot that was brutal. 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Wait, I wasn't on that. 248 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: I no, I know, no, no, but it's like you 249 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: and I our book. That one. That one actually that 250 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: was brutal. That was the only one that hurt because 251 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: that was my fault. Everyone else I was. I was right, 252 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: and that one. I was like exhausted and totally thrown 253 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: off by her because she was such a bee. She 254 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: was talking smack right before we started taping, and I 255 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: was exhausted and I just like had a like freeze. 256 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: I think it was an anxiety attack. Honestly, I think 257 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: I had an anxiety attack. 258 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: So just to sum it up for my listeners, so 259 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: have no It's okay. It's so. Our book is called 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: Stolen Youth. It was about the woke war on children 261 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: and the way that kids get brainwashed in every aspect 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: of American life, you know, not just at schools, but 263 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: at the doctor's office, at the library, et cetera. And 264 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Bethany did an interview with The Hill where the very 265 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: leftist hostess asked her to define woke and she had 266 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: a public brain fart, which I feel like lots of 267 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: people have I mentioned this, but I one of our 268 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: early interviews was I did with Guy Benson. I forgot 269 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: the name of the book, and the key thing to 270 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: note here when I forgot the name of my own book, 271 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: I was holding the book in my hand. I could 272 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: have just glanced down. Instead, I was like, the book 273 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: is called and it happens. It happens. Plus you had 274 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: a newborn, which when I have a newborn, my brain 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: is mush. I don't know how you did any of it. 276 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I'll also say that, and I've talked about this on 277 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: the show. But the book was a success by every measure. 278 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: We you know, made bestseller lists all of that, but 279 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: that time was just a very stressful time. I still 280 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: am recovering from that time. It hasn't been a year yet. 281 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, people say books are like children. It's like childbirth. 282 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: You forget whatever. I have not forgotten that March April 283 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: May time period, and then you know, the book tour 284 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: went on and on. But those three months just I'm 285 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: literally still getting over it. It was still like childbirths. 286 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: Still getting over it. 287 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was comforting to me because you it 288 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: feels like you have your life together more than I 289 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: do as a general rule of thumb these disappearances. But 290 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: I remember you saying like, this is really hard, and 291 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: I was like, no, really is it? Thank you because 292 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: and I remember you saying that. Mollie Hemingway also said 293 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: that to you. 294 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: She said it was like her first book was one 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: of the most difficult years of her life. Yeah. I 296 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: feel that. 297 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, and it was. It was all part of 298 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: that too, Like it was. I had the sixth baby there, 299 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: my fifth and my sixth they're seventeen months apart, so 300 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: he was really hard. My fourth is a sleepwalker. She 301 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: was having like a really bad sleepwalking week that week, 302 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: and so I had oh and she had broken her 303 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: arm the night before I gave birth. So that whole 304 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: like postpartum period of which the book fell still, you 305 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: know when people are normally on maternity leave, was like 306 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: super anxious already and super sleep deprived. And it's funny 307 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: because people say to me all the time, like I 308 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: don't know how you do it. I'm like, there is 309 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: video evidence of how I do it, or. 310 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I always say poorly, I do it poorly. 311 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it really blows up in my face, like 312 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: when I trend nationally, and like people throw it in 313 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: my face literally daily, and it doesn't it doesn't hurt anymore, 314 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: Like I'm able to step back. And first of all, 315 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: she turned into a raging, psychotic anti semite. She was 316 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: very nice of her because now I don't feel so bad, right, 317 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: But it was like it was really hard for a 318 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: couple months because I would just wake up in the 319 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: middle of the night, re re trying to litigate it, 320 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: kind of like this is what I said, this is 321 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: what I'm trying about. But in that moment, you can 322 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: see it in my eyes, like it's a total deer 323 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: in the headlights brain fart. 324 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: And like, obviously I had heard you define well in 325 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: previous interest. Obviously you've done it. 326 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I mean I called you after that 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: hysterically crying, and I don't cry. I don't think you've 328 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: ever heard me cry. I've seen that. 329 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I was like, nobody's going to see this. 330 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: No, I knew. I knew from this second. And this 331 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: was also the problem too. I say it in the video, 332 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: I say this is going to go viral. I knew, 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: I knew, I knew this is one of those moments, 334 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: and instead of stopping my brain and trying to make 335 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: it restart, I was already catastrophizing how it was going 336 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: to go viral. And I was right. 337 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: This was also I think like two or three days 338 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: after our book party in New York was crashed by 339 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: protesters where they threw drinks and books at you, mostly 340 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: because I wasn't in the vicinity met me and Steve Forbes, right, 341 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: you and mister Forbes bb it right, And you had 342 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: been holding your baby moments before and obviously again very 343 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: stressful time. I mean I remember other things that I 344 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: cracked my tooth at Benchpiro's, like studio had to like 345 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: fly to my dentists. It didn't have one in Florida 346 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: yet I had, like, just. 347 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: I can I tell you that moment made me feel 348 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: so much better about my life. Also when you cracked 349 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: your tooth, because I'm like, that was such a Bethany 350 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: thing to do, because. 351 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: Like, I ate the stupid kind bar in the green 352 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: room and cracked my tooth on it, and yeah. 353 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: I was also I was again, I was very anxious 354 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: in that time period, and so I was sitting there 355 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: and you were just silent, and you were very quiet 356 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: the rest of the day, and I was like, it's 357 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: Carol mad at me. I do know. 358 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: I was quiet because like my tooth, it made me. 359 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: Feel so much better when you said, like this is 360 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: what happened, Like, Okay, first of all, she's human, and 361 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 2: second of all, she's not mad at me. Okay, but 362 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: that was like that was where my brain was, like 363 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: I was in like full on catastrophizing mode. 364 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and be right 365 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. I just don't know 366 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: what to compare it to other than childbirth, like the 367 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: hazy days of those days, and it's so everything went 368 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: so well in general. You know again the book was 369 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: a success, Like what am I so stressed out about? 370 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: By my way? 371 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: So why am I still stressed out about it today? 372 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Like? What is that? And by the way, that cancelation 373 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: we got mentioned in the New York Times, the Washington Post, 374 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: like I feel like I see myself, oh one hundred percent, 375 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: I free myself on the fire. And because of that, 376 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: every single woman who saw it, and I've heard this 377 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: from so many people, many of whom don't agree with us. 378 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: When they saw it, they were like, oh, that sister's tired. 379 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 380 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: And then when they heard I had a however many 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: week old I had and he was my sixth in 382 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: nine years, they were like, wow, okay, and so but 383 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: that pushed us into this conversation of people were talking 384 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: for a full week. What is the definition of woke? 385 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: How do we describe this? Right? It led to think 386 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: pieces in Daily Beast, Washington Posts, New York Times, all 387 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: these things, and they mentioned that dumb broad and he 388 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: was the co author of the books Stolen Youth. Right. 389 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: It helped our sales for sure, And there's no doubt 390 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, all press is good press. Sorry 391 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: it fucked you up. 392 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: Bethany well that's what I feel right now. So Rolling 393 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: Stone is writing a hippiece about me right now about 394 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: I think about how I'm running as a Democrat, and 395 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, well again, so yeah, but I am a Democrat. 396 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, so prove that I'm not. 397 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I had no voter registration. I've been 398 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: registered as a Democrat since twenty twenty one. And by 399 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: the way, that lost me a speaking engagement to some 400 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: like Young Republican, not Young republic something Republican, like a 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: Women's Republican group or something. They like they were going 402 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: to pay me, and then they sent me the contract 403 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: and meet the idiot. I read the contract. I'm like, well, actually, 404 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm actually a registered Democrat and you're like what right, 405 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I like to participate in democracy, 406 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: and that's how you do that in my county. So 407 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm registered as a Democrat as a result. And they're like, sorry, 408 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: we can't have you come to speak. I'm like that's fine, 409 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: I'm rather my vote count in my county. The county 410 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: executive won by less than one hundred votes, and so. 411 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: The primary is the election in your county? Yeah, And 412 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: it was a New York City very similar. 413 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really matters. And so I'm I will be 414 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: a registered Democrat for as long as I live here, 415 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: but therefore I am a registered Democrat. 416 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: It's amazing that you could declare yourself a different gender 417 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: or no gender or both. 418 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: My three year old could do it. 419 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't be like, you can't declare yourself 420 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: a different party because you don't fit in and your 421 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: ideas don't fit in with this party. What how is that? 422 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: I thought I could identify as however I want. Yeah, 423 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: And I thought that they were defenders of democracy. I 424 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: am participating in local democracy here under the terms that 425 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: they have set our democracy, no right, and I'm playing 426 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: by their rules. They set the rules of This is 427 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: how you participate in democracy in Montgomery County, Maryland, where 428 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of people voted for Joseph Biden. Okay, 429 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: so I'm playing by your rules and I'm a Democrat. 430 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: Yep, that's yeah, that's just you know how it goes. 431 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: So you've been canceled all these times, you have a 432 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: best selling book, you have six children, you're married to Seth. 433 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've made it? 434 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: No? No, and it like let's rewind like thirty seconds 435 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: ago to where I said, you chipping your tooth made 436 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: me feel better about myself. I don't. I mean, if 437 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: I like, I could take the camera and just swivel 438 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: it like I guess it would be three sixty and 439 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: then come right back to me and people are like, oh, 440 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: that sister has a messy home. I'm like, yes, I do. 441 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: There was there was a profile written about me in 442 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Deseret News right before I started writing there, and my 443 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: soon to be editor like spent a day in my 444 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: house talking to us, and the whole first part of 445 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: the column is about how messy my house is nice, 446 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, and it's funny because she mentions 447 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: how there's like a nasal aspirator on my front steps. 448 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: And I read that and I was like, that's where 449 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: that is. I have been looking for that nasal aspirator. 450 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jennifer Graham for I because the 451 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: mess is so overpowering that I didn't even I didn't 452 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: even see it anymore, but I've been looking for that 453 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: nasal aspirator. 454 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I remember lindsay, I don't know how to pronounce her 455 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: last namefield Byefield. Yeah, I came and uh organized your 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: house didn't last. 457 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: No, no, never else. No, she she comes. Since she 458 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: had children, she's stopped coming over and doing that because 459 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: she has her own life to do. And though she 460 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: just had her second and she's not working as much, 461 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: I've been trying to put her on other unpaid projects, 462 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: like can I build this website for me? 463 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Can you do this for me? 464 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: Can you make my graphics for whatever? She's actually helping 465 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: me a little bit with. Yeah, she has. But I 466 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: should make her come over and I'll play with her 467 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: children and she'll we call it lindsay my life. 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: That's so smart. Yeah, I mean, I feel like anybody 469 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: can use she should. Actually she should market that now 470 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: lindsaying your life, because I don't need organization help, but 471 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I do need some other lindsaying kind 472 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: of stuff done. So that might be. 473 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: Really, she's amazing. 474 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: She might she might be onto something there. 475 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's amazing. She has like the superpower of 476 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: just she she watched I spent a day on the 477 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: hill with a hostage family in like late October, and 478 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: I left her here with all six of my children, 479 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: and she was eight months pregnant and she had her 480 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: her toddler here and I came home and she was like, 481 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I only cleaned your kitchen. It's like, okay, well, 482 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: all right, I guess I'll have to. 483 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Live with it and not pay you this time like 484 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: all the other times. But thank you. 485 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: She she lived with me for a couple months when 486 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: she had first moved to DC. She was working the 487 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: night shift somewhere, like in some news working there or something. 488 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't really know. I should know, but I don't, 489 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: and so she basically had pull her opposite schedules of me. 490 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 2: I rarely saw her. Sorry, New York almost came out. 491 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: I really saw her saw her. I rarely saw her, 492 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: And it was like this magical cleaning fairy in my house. 493 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: And my roommate was a little annoyed at the fact 494 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: that someone was sleeping there. But then she realized she 495 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: never saw Lindsay. And then when she got her own 496 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: place and moved out, my roommate she din it at 497 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: the same time we did. Yeah, and my room was like, 498 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: so that was all her And I was like, it 499 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: appears so yes, I have amazing done nothing in three months. 500 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: So she she's grateful that I helped her for those 501 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: three months, but like hopefully she doesn't listen to your 502 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: podcast because of jobs. 503 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely going to send her this episode, 504 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: but yes, other than that, I hope she does listen 505 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: to my podcast. 506 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: She probably does. She she's like the superhero who does everything, 507 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: so I'm sure she listens to your podcast already. 508 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: So do you see another book in your future? Because 509 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: I am nowhere near that. I'm like at that, you know, 510 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: I think just had a baby, and like, why are 511 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: you to me about another baby? A bunch of babies 512 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: all together? So you're probably crazier, So go ahead. 513 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: So I do, And I have an idea and I 514 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: invited you to it. Just for the record, I invited you. 515 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: I did. 516 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: Never doing this again, I don't know, it's like you know, yeah, 517 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: but I want to hear you know. 518 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: Your friends, so I can't. I don't want to no, 519 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: no g to say because I feel. 520 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't say, right, no, don't say your idea, 521 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: but just in general, you're you're going to do this again, like. 522 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: I think so? I think so so. I I've been 523 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: talking to our agent about it and he's down with it. 524 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: But there's like two books coming out that might be similar, 525 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: and so we're waiting to see if those are two 526 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: similar before I think we set forward, or maybe that's 527 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: not what we're waiting for, And maybe I should just 528 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: text him more frequently. I just like, I have so 529 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: many things going on that I haven't been responsible about it. Yeah, so, 530 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, maybe maybe we're not waiting. 531 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 532 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Keith? 533 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: Can you hit me up? I don't know. 534 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: I'll send him the episode. Also, I'm just going to 535 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: email it out to everybody we talk about. Yeah, there 536 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: you go, So switching gears. A question that I ask 537 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and that a lot of people 538 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: everybody ask everybody who comes on my show is what 539 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: do you think is our largest societal problem? And do 540 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: you think it's solvable? 541 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: So I told you my answer would be unsurprising. It's 542 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: the birth crisis. It's the marriage and the birth crisis. 543 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: People are very lonely. And I think that you and 544 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: I have extraordinarily happy, healthy marriages. 545 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Russian Russian superstition. You can't just say that. 546 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: I mean, unless somebody croaks, I think we're in safe territory. 547 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: But that's rare. And so, I mean, I think it's 548 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: it's getting more rare to get married, but it's also 549 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: rare to be in a relationship with someone you consider 550 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: to be your best friend, which I know Shai is 551 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: for you, and that is for me. Soulmatesmates, That's incredible 552 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: and special. Katrina Trinco just wrote a column for The 553 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: Daily Signal for Valentine's Day. I love her, She's so sweet. 554 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: She was like a pre kid's friend. And then we 555 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: don't talk enough, which is a shame because we live 556 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: both in Washington. We should hang out more, but I 557 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: don't see anyone ever. 558 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: So it kid, six kids, seventy eight jobs. I've got 559 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a few things going on. 560 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So she she wrote this beautiful column for 561 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: the Daily Signal. It's basically like the TLDR is, it's 562 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: rough out there, and I know it's rough out there. 563 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to be single in this environment. It's 564 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: so hard, and so I think there's so many people 565 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: out there who want to meet their person, and there's 566 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there who have settled, who 567 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: have been like, well, I guess this is it, and 568 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: this is this is as good as I'm going to get. 569 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people who have settled 570 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: and a lot of people who I'm like, I wonder 571 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: how long that will last, because it won't last people 572 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: who don't like their spouse, people who don't respect their spouse. Yeah, 573 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: And I mean, like it's not to say that, like 574 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: marriage is always easy and perfect. My marriage has not been. 575 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: And I like, we had a really rough go in 576 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: the beginning of our marriage before we had kids. And 577 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: we had a rough go I don't know how five years, 578 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: six years ago now, when he was at the post 579 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: and just working non stop. His commute was so bad, 580 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: we just like did not We did not communicate, and 581 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: I faked it until I made it both times. Right 582 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: in those rough moments, I was like, I really don't 583 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: like you, but I'm going to like force myself to 584 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: be here. Yeah, be here and be encouraging and be 585 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: loving even though I do want to kiss you right now. 586 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: I don't like you very much right now, but you 587 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: fake it until you make it. 588 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Let's have another baby. 589 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: No, that was before we had kids, and I wasn't 590 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: sure I'm we're going to stay married. Yeah, I would 591 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: like I would take my wedding ring off and like 592 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: walk around and be like, I wonder what this feels like? 593 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: Could I be single again. 594 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Wow? 595 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: Is this Yeah? Yeah, it was really bad, especially before 596 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: we had the kids, and then we went to couples 597 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: counseling and we we I learned how to communicate, right, 598 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we can't. 599 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: Blame Seth for any of it. Obviously, he's like perfect 600 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, unfortunately sorry for you, but that's just the 601 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: tesn't matter. 602 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: The annoying thing about him is that he's too nice. 603 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: That is, that is the only thing I will ever 604 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: say about him, and sometimes. 605 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't realize that in the acknowledgments. 606 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's nice, and sometimes you want him to 607 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 2: hold a grudge, yeah, and he doesn't. 608 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but I feel like we need people 609 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: like him around. You know. I'm going to have him 610 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: on the show also and make him like tell us 611 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: why he's so good, how he. 612 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Could be good too, but he's so modest. But I 613 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: would love to watch that. 614 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, Bethany. Obviously, you and I can keep this going 615 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: for days at a time and we have. But end 616 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: here with your best tip for my listeners on how 617 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: they can improve their lives. How do they Bethany their 618 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: lives in a positive way? 619 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: I think I think you have to be passionate about 620 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: everything possible, Like I don't half asked things very much. 621 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: There's so many things I want to do that I 622 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: take on too many things. But ultimately, at the end 623 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: of the day, it's my personal life that is my 624 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: priority and that brings me joy. I homeschool the kids, 625 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: everyone's home with me, and like, could I be making 626 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: more money? Could I have more time to clean my house? Yes? 627 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: I could, or I could have fun, And so I 628 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: just I. I think the biggest lesson that I took 629 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: for my parents' deaths in my teens, which according to Twitter, 630 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 2: I killed my mom probably both whatever, Yeah, I mean 631 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: I killed both of them, But they don't know the 632 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: details about my dad yet that I'll see that for 633 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: the second book. A vague tweet that about how I 634 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: was the reason why my dad it's that terrible. That's 635 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: what I'm going to get canceled. 636 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: That's the next cancelation. Oh no, get tie into the 637 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: next book so that it hits right up the right time. 638 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, man, I mean, someone's gonna 639 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: take a clip of that and be like, oh, she 640 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: was joking about Howard dug himself. Because ever, It's fine, 641 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: this is the problem with podcasting with a friend, by 642 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: the way, because you forget that someone is taping it, 643 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, this is gonna be seen by 644 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: other people. Anyway, Live your life like because it's short 645 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: and it's beautiful and it's wonderful, and don't don't get 646 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: dragged into like self pity and self sorrow. I definitely 647 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: could have after my parents died when I was sixteen 648 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: and nineteen years old, especially given with my father how 649 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: he left this earth. But life is such a gift 650 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm so grateful. I mean, I don't 651 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: care about any of the professional stuff like best selling 652 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: book like super cool. Don't get me wrong, but like 653 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: I really like my kids, I really like my husband. 654 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm so lucky. I get to just like wake up 655 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: every day and like do this and this is, by 656 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: the way, like part of my job and my life 657 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: is like I'm going to talk to my friend on 658 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: Skype and then we'll post it on the internet and 659 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: people will listen to it, like what a scamus all is, 660 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: What a beautiful life. I love it. 661 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing. She is Bethany Mendel. Read her amazing book 662 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Stolen Youth. Go buy like ten copies right now. Thank 663 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: you so much. 664 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: For me, so they should buy it from me. I 665 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: still have some leftover. 666 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't get our numbers up, so no, don't buy 667 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: it from you. Thank you so much. Bethany Mendel, thank 668 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show. 669 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.