1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: The b a q A what you say, the b 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: a q a man, good b a q with two 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: today the b a. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: Q a A. We're back and black in the studio 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: in the stew uh. So we have If you have questions, 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: we have some answers. But as a gentle reminder, we're 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: not your mama. No, we're not your lawyer, your doctor, 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: your you. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Know, we are your favorite cute black girl into their cousins. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Who know, I'm thinking too about money and career and 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: business and things. 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We're the BA podcast on Twitter and then 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: brought a Vision Podcasts on ig So you can send 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: us some messages and you know, and we might answer 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: your question. We're gonna do money questions today. You want 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: me to read the first one, Mandro, you want to 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: read that? 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go for it. Jump on in there. It's 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: been so long and you guys have so many questions, 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: so yes, I think you need to start chipping away 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 4: at these. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: So we have a question from nine in. She says, Hi, 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Tiffany and Mandy. I'm a huge fan of your podcast 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: and have learned quite a lot from you both. I'm 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: considering getting a new airline credit card for the benefit 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: of the flight promotional credit and free check bag, which 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: would otherwise require a thirty dollars fee. This would completely 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: cover the airfare for an upcoming trip. I already have 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: a few cards, though, and I'm working on paying off 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: the balances. Would it be a wise idea to get 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: the new airline credit card for only the promotion. After 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: the credit, I wouldn't use it further unless I should 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: make a one time unless I should make a one 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: time small monthly payment on it to build credit or 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: completely cancel it. 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: Thanks nine In. I like that name, Ninan. That's pretty. 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: Ooh, this is good because I mean I actually was 49 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: just on a plane. Obviously we both were, but I 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: flew Jet Blue to Costa Rica and on the way back, 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: I mean that fifty percent discount on the twelve dollars 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: miniature kale salad that I have would have been nice 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: with the Jet Blue card. And then they wait until 54 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: like the last ten minutes of the flight. Then they 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: come through. They do the big announcement over the speaker, 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm trying to finish my movie, but like, fine, 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: we'll listen to your credit card pitch. And they come 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: down the aisle with the brochures like sixty five thousand miles, 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: you know, one time offer on this flight, you know. 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: So it's super tempting. But I think what concerns me 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: or just like raises my my my alert man dealer 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: from her question is the fact that she already has 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: cards she's trying to pay the balances off on and 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: that she says, I'll stop using it. But I kind 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: of feel like that may not be the case. It's 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: really easy to say that now, but you keep that 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: card and then mid other trip's going to pop up 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: and it's like, well, I just put it on this 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: card to get the points, and then before you know, 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: you have another card with a balance that you're carrying, 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: and unless it's a zero percent intro APR, then you're 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: gonna end up paying interest on it, and it's just 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: gonna be like you have to think about the money 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: you be spending on interest at that point. Plus, those 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: cards with the best benefits sometimes have like high annual fees. 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: You know. I think our Chase Good Time Card that 77 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: we both have the Chase reserve, they want say annual 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: feenw like five hundred, four hundred or something like that. 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: It ain't cheap, you know. So that's something too. That's 80 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: just something that jumped out at me. 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: What do you say, Tiff, I say, I'm not a 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: big fan of cards for specific companies like card just 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: for Express car, just forget, you know, because you know, 84 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: the benefits are limited typically to just that one organization. 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: I remember you, Mandy, you were telling me how I 86 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: was renovating and you were. 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Like, are you going to get a Home Depot card? 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: And I considered it because I was buying a ton 89 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: of stuff from home Depot, but I ended up using 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: my Chase Good Time Card. Like it's really called the 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Chase Venture, but me and Maddy just be teasing. 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: It's called the Chase Reserve. 94 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Call this. That's why Mandy calls it to Chase good Time, 95 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: because not she doesn't know it, because she knows I 96 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm like, Ochase, run and get him, you know, 97 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: fly with Me card. So what I like about him 98 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: is that and I use that instead of the Home 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: Depot is that I wanted the benefits to last beyond 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: just shopping at Home Depot because I knew it was 101 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: just a few months of me like like using home 102 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: Depot to renovate. And so with those purchases, I was 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: able to get cash back, I was able to earn 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: points for a flight. I was able to like I 105 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: typically like, if I'm going to get a credit card, 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: which you sound like you don't need right now because 107 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: you have cards you're paying off. But let's just say 108 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: that you didn't have credit cards that you were paying off, 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: or you have cards and they're already paid off and 110 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: you were looking for a new card. 111 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: To help with your travel. 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: I would look for an overall general card where the 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: benefits are more wider reaching, not for one specific airline, 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: but like a card that you can get cash back, 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: you can earn point you can earn points to like hotels. 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: You know, that's what I that's what I would suggest, 117 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: but I right now, honestly, I would slow down as 118 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: you're paying down, I would slow down on getting a 119 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: card just because you don't want to start to like, 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, the best piece of advice when you're in 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: a ditch is to put the shovel down. And so 122 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: that credit card is a shovel and I want you 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: to keep digging nine in so hopefully. 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Another thing to think about is like those cards 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: often require you to spend money to get that benefit. 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: It's like if you spend three thousand dollars in the 127 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: first ninety days, so like, can you afford that much? 128 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: Because that's more than a three hundred dollars flight credit 129 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: would be. So I would say, nah, pass so you 130 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: can you know, pay for the flight the one time. 131 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 4: And you know, think about what Tiff said about getting 132 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: like a more general travel card, especially if you're not 133 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: traveling back and forth under control. Yeah, but thank you 134 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: so much for your question, miss nine and with the 135 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: pretty name, Let's take a quick breaking break and be 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 4: right back for a real, that's one. I'm like rolling 137 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: my shoulders back for it because I feel like Tiff 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: and I. We're gonna go cool and I'll give you 139 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: all a hint. 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We are back with a juicy, 161 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: juicy question that immediately I was like, let's do this. 162 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: I know we have loss to say on this matter. 163 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: And both of us have sisters and families, and yeah, 164 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: it get it can get a little challenging when there's 165 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: income disparities within the family, So let's get into it. 166 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: This comes from someone who would like to be called 167 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: my dear so her and she says, I have a 168 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: sister who I adore. She and her husband have two 169 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: young children. They recently made a big transition and moved 170 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: halfway across the country to be closer to us her family. 171 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: She has always struggled with her finances, holding on to 172 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: what she has since she is a major spender but 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: not a budgeter. They could be considered wealthy, but they 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: live extremely paycheck to paycheck due to some lavish choices 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: they continue to make over and over. Something major happens 176 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: and they can't pay their bills or afford the expense. 177 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: So she comes to my mom and dad, who are 178 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: retired to ask for help. But recently she's become asking. 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: She's begun asking me for help. I'm ten years younger 180 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: than her, live alone, and have a high paying job, 181 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: and I'm putting in the work to end the cycle 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: of debt from my family. In my own life, I 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: have a financial advisor who I work closely with to 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: budget and set myself up for the future. I have 185 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: tried to talk to my sister about getting help and 186 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: working with someone, but she's not open to it at all. 187 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: She feels like she just needs to earn more. What 188 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: should I do. I want to help her because she's family, 189 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: but I also don't want to enable her because she 190 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: refuses to get help. I just don't know what to do. 191 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: Dear system before let it go? 192 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: Oh yes, let it go. Which is like because when 193 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: I was thinking about trying to educate people who are 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: not ready to be educated, it's like a losing battle. 195 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 4: At that point. You know, it's one thing if they 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: come to you and ask, But when you and I 197 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: have been that person, when you think that you know 198 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: better and you want to coach them, and you can 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: see how clear it is if they just listen to me, 200 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: and it's family. There's just something ingrained in our DNA 201 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: to just not absorb anything that our siblings say to us, 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: like you know, and it may I don't think that 203 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: you need to be the hero in that situation, and 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: it's going to cause you more stress to try to 205 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: fix it, you know. And I found myself in that position, 206 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: especially what we do to if, like we talked about 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: that before, y'all listen to us, y'all think we're real smart. 208 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: You send us your questions. I don't get any from 209 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: my family, even my husband, you know, And I just 210 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: kind of like, oh, they'll find out on their own 211 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: and their own way. But it's different right when it 212 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: comes to your pockets, and they don't want your advice, 213 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 4: they want money. So what do you say to that, Tiff? 214 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: I think both of us have had situations where you 215 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: have been and I was even with my family. 216 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh, baby Lisa, where I have to set a boundary, 217 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: and I literally set one recently, like. 218 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Maybe, like you know, less than six months ago. 219 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: She called and I said, if this is to ask 220 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: for money, just I want this to be so important 221 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: to you because this is last and final, like for life. 222 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: And she was thought about it, and she was like, so, 223 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: how's your day? 224 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: I said, exactly because she wanted that one get I said, 225 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: so I want you to ask yourself, is this my 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: get out of. 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: Jail jail jail free car? Like you know she was. 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't even confident. I said, Oh, I'm just letting 229 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: you know that, like you know, because so here's my rule. 230 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: So this is literally what I tell all my sisters 231 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: and my friends who I'm close enough that I would 232 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: lend money to, even though I'm not a money lender. 233 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Typically I'll just give you like if you're really needing it. 234 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: Like, so my rule is, and this is what I 235 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: told my baby sister, Lisa is I told her. I said, 236 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: the rule is you're not allowed to be homeless. 237 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to be. 238 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: Hungry, meaning don't ever get to such a dire state 239 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: that it would put you in physical peril, you know. 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: So like, if that's the case, obviously come to me, 241 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: because at the very least you could always eat here 242 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: and you can stay with me, you know, So don't 243 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: think like, oh, I got to be on my own 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: and struggle struggle through it all, you know, within reason, Yes, 245 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: I want you to look at yourself as your first 246 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: line of defense. But don't go hungry you're homeless, that's 247 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, we're not doing that here. But I cannot 248 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: be your first, second, and third line of defense, you know. 249 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: And so it's okay for people to have bad credit 250 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: for a little while. 251 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: They'll live. It's okay for bills to be late, They'll live. 252 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the only way you're gonna learn, Like you. 253 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: Have to get sometimes back pushed up against the wall 254 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: to then lean into yourself and be resourceful. 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know your sister's older. 256 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: My sister's the youngest set of five, and if I'm 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: being honest, we coddled. 258 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Her, we babied her. 259 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I am nine years older than her, so you know, 260 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: there's such a huge difference. So she's like, oh, the baby, mean, 261 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: while Lisa's a whole, like thirty three. Yeah, And so 262 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: she didn't get here by herself. You know, there's these 263 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,239 Speaker 2: bad habits that we have, you know, encouraged and cultivated. 264 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: But then finally I had to be like no, and 265 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: she is figuring it out, but I wanted her to 266 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: know that you have a safety net, Like I want 267 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: you to figure it out, but I do not want 268 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: you to be in peril, you know, And so the 269 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,119 Speaker 2: key is really like it's not easy to set boundaries, 270 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: but if you set them, they learn to navigate with 271 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: you differently, you know, like they do people will learn 272 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: to navigate with you differently if you're like, hey, like 273 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: I had a friend asked me to borrow money for 274 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: the first time and she'd never asked me before, and 275 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: old Tiffany would have just like been like, oh gosh, 276 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna let bart but I'm just scared 277 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: that this is a new precedent. 278 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: What do I do? 279 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: New Tiffany therapeued up. Tiffany was like, hey, girl, no 280 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: problem lending you this money. But although I know you've 281 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: never borrowed before, I don't want to set a precedent 282 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: that I'm the go to for you to borrow from. 283 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: And she said, well, I've never asked I no, no, 284 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: I know you've not asked me that. It's not about 285 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is. 286 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Something you're gonna do. 287 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: I just want to make it clear that it makes 288 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: me it would make me uncomfortable that I don't mind 289 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: doing this, you know, I expect that you're gonna pay 290 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: me back, like you said, but also too, I expect 291 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: that this is not going to become We've been friends 292 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: for a very very very long time, and I don't 293 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: want this to become the norm, like we've broken the seal. 294 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: I could tell that she was slightly offended, and I understood, 295 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, why she would be, But I also know 296 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: that I needed to set the boundary because I don't 297 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: know where this is going. We've talked about it like 298 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: a couple times after and we both come to like 299 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: an easy like piece about it, like, you know, because 300 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't want that to be like, well, girl, Tiffany 301 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: got it, you know, like, and so I'm glad I 302 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: set the boundary, and I'm glad we talked about it 303 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: and we're still like super good friends, you know. And 304 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: she understood where I was coming from, and I understood 305 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: where she was coming from because it wasn't like she 306 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: had had any habit of this with me, but I've 307 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: seen the habit with other people. 308 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: That's why I said what I said, So, like, I 309 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: just think it's gonna be. It's gonna be, dear sister. 310 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: You have to just you're gonna have to set a 311 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: clear boundary live up to that boundary. You might have 312 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: to say it a couple of times. Your sister will 313 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: learn that you are not the one, the two, or 314 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: the three, and she'll move on to someplace else. It 315 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: sounds like maybe your parents have said no and that's 316 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: why she's coming to you. And then you can you 317 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: could also create that safety net and say, you know, 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: don't be hungry, don't be homeless. You know, you guys 319 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: can always eat here or whatever. You guys can always 320 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: stay with me or whatever that is. You know, like 321 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: set that kind of like that lowest basis point, but 322 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: then let her figure it out or she will never 323 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: figure it out. Especially it's one thing if you had 324 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: a sister who was like, you know, like didn't make 325 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: good money, you know what I mean, like to hear that, 326 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: like you make plenty and you're just making bad choices. 327 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no. 328 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: You know. It's one thing if you were like in 329 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: abusive relationship. Your best friend was in an abusive relationship and 330 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: fled her husband. Now that's different and you're like, girl, 331 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: you know, I got you, bring the kids here, we're 332 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: going to figure it out. But just I'm going to 333 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: help you out because you're mismanaging your money. Now, set 334 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: that boundary, create the baseline of don't be hungry or homeless, 335 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: and let it go. 336 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: She's grown. 337 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: It might be a little awkward in the meantime, like Tiffy, 338 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: you went to that awkward thing with your friend, just 339 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: like you know in the beginning. But people are always 340 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: going to act some type of way when you say 341 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: no and you set that boundary. And I think the 342 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: part that we use boundaries like a throwaway word now, 343 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: but it's going to come at the cost of that moment, 344 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: that that space of discomfort for you and for the 345 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: person who's asking you for something and wants to breach 346 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: your boundary, and for them just for them to hear no. 347 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: Like my, you know, really good friend of mine recently 348 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: found a toxic friend, had a toxic friend who I 349 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: knew they were toxic because I can smell y'all and 350 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: I just don't even And I told her that's as 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: bad news, and I backed it up. I was like, 352 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: she's gonna learn. A year later, she's like, I think 353 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: it's time to cut this person out, and I'm like, 354 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: m And as soon as she did, the tech start 355 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: coming in, the calls, the name calling. You know that 356 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: immediate reaction to you studying that boundary and as a 357 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: person who I've had to deal with my own family, 358 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: like a sibling of mine who I had to really 359 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: set a hard boundary, and for me, that boundary was 360 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: like no further communication, you know, until I can trust 361 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: you again. It's it's you. There's there's a cast there, 362 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: it's it's painful, it makes holidays a little awkward. But 363 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: I think you have to put yourself first and remind 364 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: yourself what your goals are. And it's okay if someone 365 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: else is frustrated, put out, inconvenienced, you know, if they 366 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: have to struggle a little bit because of a choice 367 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: you made for your own self, welcome to just being 368 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: a human. You know, at certain points we have to 369 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: make those tough calls. And it's like Tiff said, you know, 370 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: maybe it's if you say, if you if it's money, 371 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: that becomes a band aid. And it does sound like 372 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: maybe your parents have started saying no or they're not 373 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: able to give what she needs, so she's even gotten more. 374 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Plus she has a spouse too. I'm like, is a 375 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: spouse and does he know or does she know? Or 376 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: they know about this? Like there's deeper things going on, 377 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: But how else might you be able to help? Like, 378 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: it's not advice because I don't think she wants that 379 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 4: from you. Maybe it's if you want me to babysit 380 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: for free while you get a second job or uber 381 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 4: so that you can, you know, or go on some 382 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 4: interviews like how can you support her in other ways 383 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: to show that you still love her? But it's really 384 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: dangerous to set that president of Okay, I'm going to 385 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: say yes this time. And certainly if you actually need 386 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: them to pay you back, I really wouldn't lend that 387 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: money because I just feel like friends and family, there's 388 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: just you're not going to be at the top of 389 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: the list when it comes to paying the bills back, 390 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: you know. So with me, if I was ever giving 391 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 4: money to fit, I made an early rule and when 392 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 4: I was younger that if I was going to lend 393 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 4: anyone money, I wasn't going to be lending it. I 394 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: was going to give it, and I was going to 395 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: tell them so like this is a this is a gift. 396 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: I don't want it back, you know, And if you're 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: not comfortable doing that, I would say, the ANSWER's got 398 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: to be no. And you can literally tell her exactly 399 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: what you told us. You know, I've worked really hard 400 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: to get where I am, and I want I don't 401 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: have a partner, I don't have a second source of income. 402 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 4: I need to be doubly sure that I can support 403 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: myself if something were to happen. And I know that 404 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: you love me and you'll probably understand this, So this 405 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 4: is why I have to say, I can't help you 406 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: in this way, but maybe there's other ways I can help. 407 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: And I stole that little mini script from my therapist 408 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 4: because she gave me that language when a family relative 409 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: came to me last year for like a lot of money, 410 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: and she was like, you can tell her I love you, 411 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: I want to help you, but I can't help you 412 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 4: in this specific way. You know, is there something else 413 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: that we can, you know, talk about And it's up 414 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: to them to decide what they want to do with that. 415 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: And don't expect Sometimes I think that we are like 416 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to do the hard work 417 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: and for it to feel good and easy, Like, well, 418 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: it's not feeling good, so maybe we're doing something wrong. 419 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: And it's like no, actually, it's like I got my 420 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: eyebrows wax today, it's supposed to sting a little. 421 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: That's what that's how it goes. 422 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: They do it good. 423 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm just saying that. So that's 424 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: the thing. 425 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: It's that I want to it's just in general, especially 426 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: if you talk about money and career changes and all 427 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: things we talk about here. I want to normalize that 428 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: there are moments of discomfort that ought to be uncomfortable. 429 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: Like it's not because you did anything wrong. That's just 430 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: what it looks like, you know what I mean. And 431 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: so like when you realize, like, oh, I'm going to 432 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: have this conversation with my sister and it's going to 433 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: be awkward, and it's going to feel uncomfortable and I'm 434 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: going to feel. 435 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: Bad about it, that's part of it. And that's okay, 436 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you know. 437 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: So you know, don't think like you feeling bad means 438 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: something is wrong. No, you're feeling bad is that you're 439 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: a human being period, right, And so just like keep 440 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: that in that, Like, there is no easy way to 441 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: tell someone you super love. 442 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: I can't give you money. 443 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: They're just not you know, and so you're just gonna 444 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: say it to the best of your ability. You might 445 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: have to tell her a couple of times and eventually 446 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: she'll get it. 447 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, amen to that. It's yeah, it's it's not supposed 448 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: to feel good, especially not waxing. I went and got 449 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: waxed for my vacation, and I. 450 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Was like, why I never You know, I've got movies. 451 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I've never gotten waxed down there. 452 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: You know you're not missing out. But I will say, 453 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: the results are everything I felt. Maybe that's why I 454 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: felt so hot in my being vacation. 455 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm because the eyebrow is already like, girl, 456 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: I gotta get myself together, so I can't imagine. 457 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 4: I think they get in there. 458 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: Girl, I feel like I'm liable to pass down. 459 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: I was afraid I was going to go into pre 460 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: term labor. I was like, should I have google this? 461 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: Maybe this is going to be triggering anew that. 462 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: Lady's gonna get a face full of fart because I'll 463 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: just be so like, oh my god, they've seen it all. 464 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: You just have to like imagine, you know, I got 465 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: a girl for your name, Sean, tell you come up 466 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: to you know, come up to Worchester, hook you up 467 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: European wax Center. 468 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: I'm scared, scared, scared, I don't know. 469 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe once in my life I'm gonna 470 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: do it, but I'm so terrified of like the pain child. 471 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: So you know, we gotta work our way up, work 472 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: our way up. Rember, just when we first started doing Brandabision, 473 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: I was still wearing pack pandies. 474 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Remember, I mean, now we've elevated. 475 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for reminding me where you came from. 476 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: Slowly, So we gotta work our way up, work our 477 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: way up. 478 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, dear sister, we work from like girls 479 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: that your sister to us do a sister girl talk. 480 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: But let us know how it goes, and you know, 481 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: we hope for the best. 482 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: Yes, I genuinely want an update on this one. Please, 483 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 4: dear dear sister, please send us an update. 484 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: So when you said this update, just say it's me, 485 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: dear sister, so we know it's you. 486 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: I hope that we got to you in time. Yes, Okay, 487 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: I know. 488 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: All right? 489 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: Ba fan, Well again, you can hit us up anytime 490 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: you want. You with your questions, you can go to 491 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: our ig We are at Brand and Bission Podcast on Insta. 492 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: You can also email us Brand Ambisson Podcast at gmail 493 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: dot com if you want to be an in person 494 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: guest on the show. 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