WEBVTT - The Week Before

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi ladies, Hi, how we all feeling today? We're good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? You know? Where do we even begin? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it when you're I will say this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a group chat last night.

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<v Speaker 2>The group chats are not allowed anymore. We had big

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<v Speaker 2>talk at school. I'll get to that, okay, yeah, but anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've got a big thing on group chats in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, So don't start there or there, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to start there, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, just chat. I've been pinning a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>right because I I'll always say, oh, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good topic, and then I forget. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>been writing more down as time goes on, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not eager, and none of the all the

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<v Speaker 1>pins are not like timely, so we can do them whenever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was funny because I always, like, I always

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<v Speaker 1>get a little intrigued when Kramer comes on and says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well that'll go good with my wine. Oh, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we already have a wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know, but let's start hold it, Let's hold it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with a bit of a chatty chat. Why

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<v Speaker 2>I think you warned me about fifth grade?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I feel like I have?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we've talked about fifth grade on here.

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<v Speaker 3>Back me up, guys if I haven't said.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it all change, yeah, like changes, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>the emotion behind it is you really got me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh No, I didn't warn you about that. No, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like you were for jolly, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you mean no?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Yeah? Yeah? Sorry? No? Did did you?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just start this entire podcast off with I'm

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<v Speaker 2>due to start any day my period. Okay, so usually

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<v Speaker 2>the week leading up to it, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go into that with my wine, all right, but let

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<v Speaker 2>me just say I'm already emotional, right, but wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>just did not The night before going in fifth grade

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<v Speaker 2>is just like she's so old, yeah to her last

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<v Speaker 2>year at the school. And then we're at the meet

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<v Speaker 2>the parent orientation night, right, and they're giving us the

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<v Speaker 2>calendar for the year and they're like, okay, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is the day that we do the walk through, the

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<v Speaker 2>final walkthrough, and I'm just like welling with tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like no birds right now, like orientation, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is like so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a while for me for that first one,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't I don't really remember. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that I have really gotten super emotional on that week

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<v Speaker 3>back to school. It's usually specific things like I will

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely be crying at football or you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, so that's when I started thinking about you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, man, she's got a fifth grader and

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<v Speaker 2>then she's got a senior.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, that's when I texted you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, well check because I'm not well and

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine how you're doing. So I'm like if

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<v Speaker 2>because I always say when you when you're focused on

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<v Speaker 2>your pain, go to someone else that might have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more like also happening, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, well, she's got fifth and senior,

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<v Speaker 2>so like she's got to be feeling something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I haven't cried about it. I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's definitely hitting me, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>so also busy that it keeps me kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>especially seeing I have a checklist of the things I

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<v Speaker 3>have to do for senior year, and so I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>busy like making sure I've got hit these deadlines and

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<v Speaker 3>done the things that it hasn't really like fully.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think also taking another kid to high school,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's where I was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>holy shit, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Old, right, like getting it like they're old. I have

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<v Speaker 1>two kids in high school. I will say this, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do think having the toddler for me is like

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<v Speaker 1>anchoring me back a little, like it's making it not

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<v Speaker 1>feel like because I because they're still this itty bitty

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<v Speaker 1>right right right right, but loves I noticed it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>all try not to weep on this podcast. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed it. I was doing laundry the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and she just was saying something, but like her voice

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<v Speaker 1>is changing differently, and I it just is, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>she's and she is also a very petite human, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she's very little. So that's another reason I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>like Legend is now almost as tall as her. They're

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<v Speaker 1>almost three years apart, and he outweighs her, so I

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<v Speaker 1>notice it more with him, honestly, Like I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>because of her stature, I just kind of assume she's

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<v Speaker 1>stay little forever. But she hit this grossper and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden things aren't fitting and then the voice

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's bigger questions coming my way. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's the thing for impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Also part of it with the girl, you know, guy

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<v Speaker 3>boys hit puberty later, so that fifth grade year doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>also come with a lot of changes. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>fifth grade is where you will start seeing kids that

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<v Speaker 3>have already hit puberty or hitting puberty, who are really

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<v Speaker 3>growing or starting to get boobs like all these things

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't really hit for boys yet. That happens so

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<v Speaker 3>much later. So I do think it hits a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit differ friendly with girls. And then like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>drama comes, you know, So it's a lot. But having

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<v Speaker 3>that first going into fifth I feel fore y'all because

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<v Speaker 3>that is it's the last of elementary school. Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>not easy. I get it, you know, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>been a while since I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah there, and I think too it being the girl

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<v Speaker 2>part of things too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apart for some reason, again, it just it all

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<v Speaker 3>hits differently and in different way.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, she's wearing a training brush shaving

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<v Speaker 1>her legs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, it was like we just had like the

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<v Speaker 4>most cute summer ever and all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 4>just like within two months you you are a different

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<v Speaker 4>little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it feels fast. And I think too, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're all female, like we remember I remember fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade. Yeah, and you start to remember, like I'm going, oh, Kristen,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going back in the memory banks, like what

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<v Speaker 1>did I do when I had a crush? What were

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<v Speaker 1>my sex questions? What were I you know, like people

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<v Speaker 1>are starting their period, I know, like we packed her

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<v Speaker 1>little thing for her backpack and like just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just it's a lot. That fifth grade year

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot, for sure. I know, seem big.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just very and I get it, like they're ten,

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, we've got time. But there is so much

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<v Speaker 1>change so quick if it.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes after and not to but after elementary school is

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<v Speaker 3>when it just and they say it, but it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like I mean, it just goes so fast that middle

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<v Speaker 3>school in high school years or just for so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well even when you texted the other day that you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing a college visit and I was holding my

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<v Speaker 1>phone and Preston goes you okay, and I go, I

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<v Speaker 1>I am I think kat Is, But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is wild, I said, Kat and Nickleck have a

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<v Speaker 1>they have a senior.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so weird because I'm so excited for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so like the emotion of it hasn't hit me yet,

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<v Speaker 3>like because like he is ready for college, Like he

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<v Speaker 3>just is ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Done mom, which I do have to say though, I

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<v Speaker 3>really have to tell you all a funny story real

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<v Speaker 3>fast about college stuff. So long story short, he's already

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<v Speaker 3>August first is kind of when you can start applying

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<v Speaker 3>for colleges. So he's he applied for four different colleges.

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<v Speaker 3>He already decided one of them he didn't want to do,

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<v Speaker 3>so we didn't pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can like apply and then pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well two of them obviously, so one of them is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We brought it up to Nick months.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, Wyoming or some Montana Montana, that's right, Okay, Well

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<v Speaker 2>he brings it back up because he had just gone

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<v Speaker 2>out west with the church thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves out west. He loves national parks.

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<v Speaker 3>See him that, I know, it's like he would go

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<v Speaker 3>to like he would go on a road trip just

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<v Speaker 3>do national parks, like he loves this stuff, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>he kind of brings it up, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>just apply, it doesn't hurt. He's like, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>want to apply, right, So we don't tell Nick that

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<v Speaker 3>we're applying because he's very much against.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's going to be listening to us. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>Nick knows. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's whine I decided. I was just I'll tell it here.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't kill me if it's on.

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<v Speaker 1>The tape, and sit down. We have something we'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like one, Kate and I are on the couch

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, we need to pay for all these

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<v Speaker 3>because you can apply and then you have to pay,

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<v Speaker 3>and like kept walking by and I'm like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>like like hide the computer because moa.

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<v Speaker 1>State is like you have to pay for even if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go in anywhere from like thirt yet to apply.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy what some of them are free, but they

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<v Speaker 3>are anywhere between like thirty and they can be more.

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<v Speaker 3>The ones we did were between like thirty dollars and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty dollars. Okay, not terrible, but if you do a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of schools, you know, so I'm like paying for

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<v Speaker 3>it whatever well.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows up on the credit card bill Monty State that

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<v Speaker 1>I did actually, but he didn't say anything about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, as far as he knows, he's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much taking care of all of this on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's applying. I just like helped him pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So fast forward days and I mean days, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>get an email that it's like, congratulations, you've been admitted

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<v Speaker 3>to Montana State, which I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>take weeks, right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tell Caten knows, like, congratulations, you got you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. So he got accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>He got accepted to Montana State. Within like it's relatively

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<v Speaker 3>easy to get in. He has a really good GPA,

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<v Speaker 3>you know whatever. You still have to do some things

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<v Speaker 3>and turn things in, but like, yeah, he got accepted

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<v Speaker 3>in like days, right, so it just feels like this

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<v Speaker 3>is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigger deal with like then right now, no hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like in the shower like the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hear them kind of taking talking about college

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<v Speaker 3>about know what they're talking about, and then they disperse

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<v Speaker 3>and then I go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the garage.

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<v Speaker 3>He likes to get a popsicle and like sit outside

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<v Speaker 3>in the garage all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Kayden. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went out there and I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>at what point are you going to tell dad about

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<v Speaker 3>Montana State? And he goes, oh, he knows, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what do you mean he knows? He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I was just in the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, congratulations for getting accepted to Montana State. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, how does he know, Kayden? He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I didn't tell him. I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're sitting there, but I guess he got an

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<v Speaker 1>email also that said that he was admitted to Montana State.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways he was, he was, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he knows. The party doesn't know? Is that I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time? Now he knows now again. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a shout out to Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, long story short, he's got his first acceptance.

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<v Speaker 1>We kept it from him. I don't know if we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go there, but so do you go visited? He asked

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<v Speaker 1>how he got accepted, Like, you know, he hasn't asked

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<v Speaker 1>me anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because I don't think, like, well, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>get accepted if you didn't?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he figured out that he applied. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I just applied for it, and he wasn't like mad

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<v Speaker 3>that he had. I don't know that he knew that.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that he had applied for it, but he

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<v Speaker 3>told me he was or he told him. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pay for you to go to college there, but

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<v Speaker 3>I won't pay for you to come back every six months.

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<v Speaker 3>Like his point is you're never coming home because it's

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<v Speaker 3>so far. You know, that's his why he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>him to go there, because it's just so far and

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<v Speaker 3>he's just not.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for it. But anyway, he got his first college acceptance.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that tough when you because that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 2>nick thing, yeah, you know what I mean, And like

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a nus thing too, like it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be hard. But at the same time, and shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I went far. I went to Cali, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Far with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I didn't go far and I regret it, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that's a lot of why. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you want to get spread.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom that's how she was too, Like she regretted

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<v Speaker 2>not doing what she wanted to do, so she's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Go live. Yeah, yeah, I stay closed back up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But then as soon as college was over, I was out, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick is like, what are you going to do if

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<v Speaker 3>like your car breaks down and you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>get to you. I'm like, but you can't really get

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<v Speaker 3>to him in Alabama. I mean, it still takes a

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<v Speaker 3>while I get you to get a fight and all

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<v Speaker 3>the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also like, yeah, he'll figure it out. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's just not ready. But anyway, so do you a visit?

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<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>When do you visit?

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<v Speaker 3>I need to We're going to see if he's like

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<v Speaker 3>seriously wants to go. I don't think he'll go there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he just wanted it as an option if

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<v Speaker 3>he decided he because you kind of have to go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you have to apply, you know. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he'll end up going there, but I've brought it

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<v Speaker 3>up going to visit. We were going to go visit

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<v Speaker 3>before and then he took off his list.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the moment where we play back this clip

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<v Speaker 1>and your Montana's Stay shirts in the mountain in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a picture. He got it, like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's amazing. Having said that it is miserably cold.

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<v Speaker 1>In the winters, but it's it's a long winter, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I will say, and we're going in July. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, do you really want that? You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I love is his girlfriend a part of

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<v Speaker 3>the equation. No love that we have talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She might not like that to hear that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's hard when people are eighteen they

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<v Speaker 2>think that. I literally thought my high school boyfriend was

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<v Speaker 2>the only man I would ever be with my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>No one could tell me otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, it's so hard when people start to

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<v Speaker 2>make decisions based on where their boyfriend or girlfriend is

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<v Speaker 2>and not it's like, no, you have a whole entire universe,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying this person might not be your person, but

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<v Speaker 2>also like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just live. We've talked about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>He even considered the school she is more than likely

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<v Speaker 3>going to, Okay, and he won't consider it for that reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, he just he's like, I'm not raising it on Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, can you imagine going to college for a

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<v Speaker 3>girl and then breaking up and then oh that's just I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean it's all the Emily Giffen books I read, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so no, not an equation. So I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of spins off of this table if we

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<v Speaker 1>want to. But since we're sort of on the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how you feel about girlfriends and

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriends and family photos in family photos, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a trip. Because to your point, right, like we

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<v Speaker 1>all think at eighteen, we're going to marry him, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would be missus Joshua forever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I remember like and again a different time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we all had to take the picture, wait weeks, go

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<v Speaker 1>back to wherever Meyer or wherever and develop the pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>But I so which by the way, I got this message,

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh this package in the mail and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a camera, like one of those cameras we used to

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<v Speaker 2>do dispose of a camera. And Jeli's like, what's this.

0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, this is a camera like the mom

0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.080
<v Speaker 2>used to have. I remember on senior night, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you take the pictures. And then she's like, well, then

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<v Speaker 2>how do you see the pictures? I go, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the pictures. So she's like, well, what if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like the photos like it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I got photos of my friends are like they're like

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<v Speaker 1>eyes closed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, well, then how do you get

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<v Speaker 2>the photos? I go, well, you go to Walmart or

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<v Speaker 2>CBS or wherever you'd go get the pictures printed. And

0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.239
<v Speaker 2>she's like it was like, that's so the most confusing

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<v Speaker 2>thing to her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, what to those photos?

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<v Speaker 2>Seldom to the old days, honey, anyway, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So so then cropping people out right was you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't no photo eraser, No, there was no like awkward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just interesting. We I won't go like too

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<v Speaker 1>far in, but there's like a person that's gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to be added into the mix and our family, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little tumultuous, and so I am always I

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of like guard the family photo, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know everyone's not shocking, because I feel like I come

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<v Speaker 1>across as such a bee on here all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just do. And I'm such a kind person. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish people knew that I'm so freaking nice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really am. Because you're really not allowed in the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not married, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if you are married, like you got a

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<v Speaker 2>white erase, a few things my grandparents home.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yes, it's tricky. So I just wonder when you're

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<v Speaker 1>like paying for these vacations a boyfriend's girlfriends go, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you have family coming in out of town, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be, like, do you take the photo

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone we know is the family and then we

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<v Speaker 1>add the kickstands Because I a girlfriend of mine has

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<v Speaker 1>been going through something where this girl keeps putting herself

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<v Speaker 1>in the photo all the time of her it's her

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<v Speaker 1>son's girlfriend, and every time they like family picture homegirl

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<v Speaker 1>just puts herself right in and she's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love it, but I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt her feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we just so far, like if we do

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<v Speaker 3>all of this, I'll just have her take it and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll like put all the way to do it together.

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<v Speaker 3>But like she respects it, like she doesn't. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't done one big like family. But I can

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<v Speaker 3>remember being a girlfriend at the family function where I

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<v Speaker 3>was not allowed in the photo and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I think there's like a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of both, and I like that. Oh, Cayden's girlfriend because

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a piece of what I like to

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<v Speaker 2>see in those situations is awareness of being a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation. So we you know, we've there's a

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<v Speaker 2>situation right where it's like when someone doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>awareness like hey, do y'all just want one? Or yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or like letting the family have it and

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<v Speaker 2>just like thinking they're in it, right and that's fine.

0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'll never make anyone feel out of play.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'll always do is be like, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it at one point, and I look back

0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.960
<v Speaker 2>now and go, oh boy, because now what happens if

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<v Speaker 2>they break up? And now that family photo then can't

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<v Speaker 2>really be used.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So but most times I'll always try to make someone

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<v Speaker 2>feel comfee like hey, let's all do one group photo, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and now just the just the fam. So then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got because I think that that you make him both

0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable. But I like it when someone I was

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<v Speaker 2>always aware of that I was I was like, let

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<v Speaker 2>me take it, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't like it helps when they're not like

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<v Speaker 3>forcing themselves into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, one hundred percent. And then also, yeah, I

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>think having them be a part of one photo because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, my grandma still has a couple family

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<v Speaker 2>photos that have an ex boyfriend in them, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 2>an ex husband, And I'm like, well, that's a bummer,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously you can separate a husband out of the photo,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's but like when it comes to the boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>like we don't need to see yeah, you know who

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<v Speaker 2>in a because he was just a boyfriend, Like why

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<v Speaker 2>is he in that group?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, that's what I'm saying. And my girlfriend is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>She still have it on her for to write.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my husband and this is my ex wifefriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's weird. Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just but then also they are a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>the history. Yeah, the boyfriend. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I remember when my brother was getting married

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<v Speaker 3>and he was getting married one month before me, a

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<v Speaker 3>month and a half. At the wedding, my grandmother was

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna let Nick in the photo. And then my

0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.840
<v Speaker 3>dad was like, no, that's ridiculous, like we were engaged,

0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.199
<v Speaker 3>but she's she was like, she's if you're just a boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not married, you're not in the family photo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of Grandma, I think I'm I'm a both.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a way to do it, just as long

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<v Speaker 3>as the girl's not like pushing herself into so that

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<v Speaker 3>makes it awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's what that makes men want the

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<v Speaker 2>person in the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's what's happening here. And because this

0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.879
<v Speaker 1>person is a little push here, and because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>nip it right at the beginning. Yeah. Now now it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a selfie and cheek to chee. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>edit no, like I lose half my face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Harry, Ladies ready to head to whine about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it? Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually feeling quite well at the moment you start

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I did are you day? And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a different new Are you behind again or you

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't started.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like one of those where I'm on the flow

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<v Speaker 2>app and it's like it most likely should start today.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what it says today, but like, you know,

0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.479
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days in therapy, a couple days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so here okay, full transparency and like let

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<v Speaker 2>me just be very this is really great for like

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<v Speaker 2>my whole energy and where I've been. But y'all, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been like it has become really dark before my period starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's still there unfortunately, that's okay, but it's been

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<v Speaker 2>like really like really dark. And like when you say dark,

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>is it like I will cry, Like I get really depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a depression sneaky, spiry like and really period. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've been noticing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, I don't feel this all the time,

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 2>but like there is a and then an absolute shift

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 2>right before my period, like the week before my period. Now,

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I've got some other personal things going on that might

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 2>be adding to the weight of things I can I

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 2>can see that, and I can you know, I can

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that might be a piece of it where it's

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.160
<v Speaker 2>not like everything's not like hunky dory, right, So, got

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>some like personal things walking through, but like there is

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 2>also a point where I'm like I can't get my

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 2>even with that piece, I still can't get myself out

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of the the that kind of like dark period before

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the period. And I've noticed it getting worse as I've

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:07.439
<v Speaker 2>gotten older, Like I just for me personally, and like

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the anger, the agitation, the all of that and so,

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like the moment my period starts, so

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 2>like I'm going into therapy and I'm saying all these things,

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, I said, in the while this

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 2>thing is is probably a week from now, I would

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 2>come in here and be like everything's great, like I

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 2>feel good, like I feel, but I said there there

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 2>needs to be some sort of like I'm like, and

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to figure out what's been going on.

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 2>So a couple months ago again as I'm like feeling

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>these things, I've been trying to get in with my

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:41.479
<v Speaker 2>gynecologist for a very long time now, but the problem

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 2>is that her calendar isn't isn't isn't open every time

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I call her, like, well, she hasn't opened her June

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.159
<v Speaker 2>calendar yet, and I'm like, okay, well I called in

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>May and I had missed the opening for or I

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 2>called in April and I missed the May window. So

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I've literally tried to call every single month, right, So

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I'm in my dark, darker stage the

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 2>week before my period, feeling it again, so I call again,

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, to try to get on her August August calendar,

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.239
<v Speaker 2>even though it is in August, but she's like, she

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>hasn't opened her September calendar. I was like, listen, I

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>have been trying for months to get in, I said,

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I am at this point now. I'm so frustrated because

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>every time that I try and call, I cannot get

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 2>in to see the doctor.

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:25.679
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, is there any way that you

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 2>could let me know when the calendar opens so that

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't miss an appointment, Like, so I can make

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 2>an appointment because I really want to see the doctor,

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>because like even if I want something to be prescribed,

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>like Amy can't prescribe it, you know what I mean?

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I need to go see an actual doctor. Right.

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 2>So she's like she's just like listen. She's like, I

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>understand your frustration. And I was like, listen, I know

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>this is not your fault. Like you can't control her calendar,

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, but like, girlfriend, like I need to get

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 2>in like some I need to figure out like what

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 2>is wrong, you know, and like wait.

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>When a doctor would take you months and months and

0:22:58.720 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll wait for that.

0:22:59.520 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 2>So so she's like Okay, She's like the problem is

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 2>is she goes there are four hundred people trying to

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>get in and so I'm like, cool.

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for your help, and I like hung the phone,

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like in those moments, I'm like, where is

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 4>like the help for like anybody that's like asking for help?

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Right? So then I'm like, I'll just call my regular doctor.

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>So I by the way, there's no even direct line

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.360
<v Speaker 2>to that thing. It's like you got to go through

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 2>like the big Vanderbilt portal or whatever. So I'm like,

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, I go on there. I'm talking to like

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>a third party operator to try I'm like, can I

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>just get to the front office please, because i know

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>like if I try to get to the front office

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>then they'll like help.

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm at the you know, I'm talking to this lady.

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>She's like I can't.

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>She's like, we schedule all the appointments, and I'm like okay.

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like well, because then i start thinking, I'm like,

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you know what, maybe I do need to get on

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>something to just like get me to like a point

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like okay, and then like I can wean

0:23:55.880 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>myself off something, right, So us when the next appointment

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>is a long time march.

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 3>No, and this is for a regular doctor organ.

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>No, like my regular doctor. So the OPG.

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I I can't even get an appointment to save my

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 2>fucking life right March. So then I go into therapy

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and I'm like like, I'm okay, I'm okay, right,

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I get I get like probably when my period can

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 2>start to be fine. And I'm even texting like Nate

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>dog right, and I'm like.

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Nate, something's off bed. Like I know you said my

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 4>hormones are good. They ain't good like something. There is

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 4>a real dip and it gets.

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Worse as I get older, for sure, like rage full, spirally, sad,

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>all the things.

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like I'm crying at Ted fucking Lasso,

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 4>you know. I mean that was like something is off again.

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 4>I understand I'm going through some personal things. This shouldn't

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 4>be like doing it this much, you know, and so

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 4>like I'm not able to control it that much or whatever.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 4>And so he's like, well, I'm unavailable from this time

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 4>to this time, and and I'm just like fucking I can't.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I can't get like, I can't get a break. And

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 4>so that I'm in therapy yesterday and I'm like telling

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 4>her all of this, and I was like, to the

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 4>people that actually like are close to like, I haven't

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 4>had intrusive thoughts. I've had dark thoughts, but not intrusive,

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 4>not you know, anything like that. But to the people

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 4>that do and feel like they've got no like.

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Dead end, you're actively and healthy looking for a solution.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I am trying to find a solution. And here's the

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>thing too with that. The last time that I felt

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>this way was it was after I had roman and

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I had really bad postparum anxiety. There was no and

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>then doctor was like, wellhy can prescribe you medicine. But

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like a it was just like I'm just

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 2>going to prescribe you something Like I'm like, where was there,

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's really look at a blood lab. Let's really figure

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this out. And so when I was telling her about this,

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I feel for the person that is close

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to actually committing suicide or to and she's like, well,

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>have you been following the Lindsay Clancy case And I

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 2>was like yes, I said, but my biggest issue with

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>all of that is everyone's like the system failed there,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what fucking system?

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Right? There?

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually isn't a system, Like, there's none, and the part

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that and so I was kind of talking about this

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>last night, and I apologized to my dad in advance

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>for sharing this information, but I think it leads into

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>this conversation which I'd love to talk about back in

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty. So I'm learning these things about we were

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>just having a very open family talk about family emotions,

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>feelings or whatever. And again, please Dad, don't come in

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>this one. But I think it really leads into a

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>really important topic. Back in nineteen fifty, apparently my great

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>grandma had a nervous breakdown. They shocked her in Pontiac, Michigan.

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 2>They gave her a lobotomy and shocked her. Like so

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>this is nineteen fifty. Yeah, So I'm like and then

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like thinking about this last night. I'm like so

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 2>deep into the Lindsay Clancy thing that I'm like because

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what she did. I mean, it's it's horrific,

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>like absolutely horrific. I think there are sick people. Well,

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll get into all that thing, but I

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm just like, there has never been a system,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and then what is what is the like how do

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>you even change that? I don't even know the answer

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I don't think there's any help for

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>women postpartum. I think they'll either just give you a prescription,

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 2>but they're not actually there to help you. There's no

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you guys. Last night, I am on my flow chat

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>an AI chat to be like, what I fuck is

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>wrong with me?

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel this way? Because I'm nobody else

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to ask and nothing app I know. Part of the

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>reason that I work in that space with women is

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>like on the nonprofit side, is because there's women here

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville that have like finally gone enough is enough,

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and they've created these spaces where it's you know, health health,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mental health care around women's needs, which is like postpartum

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>or loss in fertility.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Albody even talks about it like that's the thing, Like

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 4>they just prescribe someone, you know what I mean, or

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 4>they're not like admitting people she called the hotline saying

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 4>and they're like no, like oh my god.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But even if they're prescribing, there should be also a

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>mental health.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Advocate on the other side, And I think she saw

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>several psychologists. I guess its psychiatrists are medicines, all the

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 3>different medicines, which is there's no checks and balances with that.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 3>So even if you were to be able to get

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>in with someone. You know, they're still not digging in this,

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 3>and you could go to another doctor and you can

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 3>get another one if you want, and you can go

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 3>to another doctor.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>You can you start that medicine, but you've got like

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a you've got a solid month and a half before

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it even starts to you start to feeling different. Yeah,

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not.

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these medicines also create suicidal thoughts.

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>So you've got this depression over here, whatever it is.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 3>And then this is also causing problems, and you've got hallucination,

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, all these things that can come with all

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 3>these medicines.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And you're sleep deprived. Yeah, typically im postpartum.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Which I mean, there's so much to talk about on

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 3>that case, but I think that that, to me is

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 3>the most important part of that case and paying attention

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>to that.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Whether she did it or her husband did it, or

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you didn't. She admit that she did do it.

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 3>She did, but now with all the evidence coming out

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>on the daily, a lot of people there's a lot

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 3>of questions not answered. A lot of people think he

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>basically convinced her that she did it, but put that

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>aside because who knows.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>There's like a million theories and people driving like this

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>only took three minutes when it was a twenty minute.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>He said yeah, and she said he did it, but

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the guy's like, she's was inaudible.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so so much back and forth. But I

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>think the most important thing to think about that is

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 3>that is that she asked for help, She was seeing

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 3>people for help.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>She was on all of these drugs.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>So whether she did it or not, like that, to me,

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>someone has to pay for this, obviously. I think that

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 3>there's multiple people that should have to pay for this

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>if she did it, obviously her the healthcare system in

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 3>some way which they will not, and her husband, because

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>even if he didn't do it, he allowed her to

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>be alone with those kids. I think that he is

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 3>also responsible and that if he was aware that she

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>was having these thoughts, which apparently he was, he also

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>should be held accountable.

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>In my eyes, I.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Don't know how you hold you. I don't know that

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>we can ever hold the healthcare system, though accountable, accountable

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 3>for these things, you know, and so.

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wi, that's a huge I mean I can't even

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>start with that.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I dealt with this with my mom,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 3>who was prescribed pills by every doctor in the state,

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 3>you know. I mean, it's like all you got to

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>do is go to different doctors, they'll give you the pills,

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's it reminds me a lot of that, which

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 3>is a whole other topic, but you know, it's I'm

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>sorry that you're having to deal with what you're having

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>to deal with and not being able to get in with.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Which is so interesting too.

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Because sorry, I'm going off on all these tangents, but

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, here in the US, it's not really supposed

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>to be that way because we don't have the United

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Healthcare that a lot of people do. And that's the

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>biggest complaint in other countries is that you can't get

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>in to see anybody.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't get in, you can't get in.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's been really freaking hard to get in here

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>to see anybody, and that's scary.

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 2>And also, like not to sound privileged, but like I

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>have the resources, I have, the right I have, and

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I still can't be seen.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, because you know, I think at the

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, I don't Well, some places that

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 3>can matter.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, no. But I mean, just like you know.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I think there are situations where people

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>can't get the help because of the environment that they're in, right, so,

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>like if they can't afford to go to certain doctors

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 2>or places or and it's like, I am privileged enough

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to be able to have like the community I grew

0:31:59.200 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>up in and the.

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Upper and great insurance.

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, an insurance to be able to buy to

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>pay to see these people. But yet there is no

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's either here, take this, but there's no really

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>getting to the route, or there's no like support for

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>because it's like even like things about like perimnopause, I

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't I still didn't even know that was a thing, right, yeah,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean it.

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea until we start talking about it.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Well even yeah, exactly, like postpartum with my first I

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>remember that was a thing. I just remember being so

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>sad and so anxious. I could not figure it out.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean the anxiety was through the roof, which I

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>lean anxious and I can lean depressed anyways, So it

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>was like such a swirl and it was coming off

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the road I had, you know, all of a sudden,

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a stay at home mom, and that was like

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>what and it was a snowstorm and my husband's back

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>out on tour and then everything took and I was

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>just so alone, no family visiting, so alone. But ten

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago, we weren't talking about any of that, and

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>so I just I remember googling what is postpartum depression

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>because I thought, well, maybe that's it. And it was

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like at the time, it was just telling you you

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>had to disconnect from your baby, and I'm like, why

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have that? I like deeply love her, So maybe

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>this isn't it. So it's just like a there's just

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>not enough forward information educating. I think like that could

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be the good thing about the right use of social

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>media and podcast and like our inundation with information is

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that we're all now saying the harder things are, like

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the honest things, but it's really overwhelming and to your point,

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>like some months I'm okay right before my period, and

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>some months I'm like really like I am, like, am

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I depressed? Like I've reached out to my best friend

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>who's a therapist, and I've said, like, do is this depression?

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm i feel like I'm okay enough, but like

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>this feels really low.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Like right, like and what they'll say, like if you

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>do the depression checklist, because again in therapy, they're like,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>do you stay in bed all day?

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, no, I can't stay in bed all day.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a twenty.

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get up, like you know what I mean.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>So like, but do I just randomly sit in my

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>closet and cry for now? Yeah, I did that the

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>other night, you know what I mean? And I had,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>but I had to get out of it again. But

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>then I know in a week, I'm like, I'll probably

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>be fine, I know, but what can we do to

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>help ourselves? Like that's the thing and I and that's

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>what's also frustrating, because I think medicine could.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Help us, but it's really for just appear like time.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Supplements, sir, trying to understand things, or like is there

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 2>blood work again that needs to be done?

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Or I just something where it's like I'm high and

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>pogesterone or low or something is this where not?

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just asking we're not just having a therapist

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and having like an actual psychiatrist comes into play.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Psychiatrists would basically just prescribe medicine.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>So they don't actually like listen to you as well

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and prescribe the like end here right right, you know

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Right? Yeah?

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>So I have an email. It's to doctor Amen because

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a good I'm going to ask him. So I

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 2>feel like yasa, I.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Mean, I will say this because last week I was

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>spirally and and the other thing is is like I

0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>don't want to keep going well. In two days, you're

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>going to feel better, Kristin. That doesn't feel great either,

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>because missing two days or three days or five days

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a month of like enjoying life is not fair either,

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially because there's so much to be grateful for,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 1>like I keep and so then I'm starting to shame myself,

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>which makes it worse for myself because I'm going well, Kristin,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you have healthy babies and you have a husband that

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>loves you and blah blah blah. But it's like chemically

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>imbalanced and then you're just like holding on and surviving

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>until the eleventh of the month rolls around.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't feel like silently doing it too though. That's

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>the thing where then you're just like crazy about it,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 2>and then you feel like you're the only person who's

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>crazy going through that. Yeah, but if it was talked

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>about more. And then when extreme case is like this,

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 2>when she's trying to get help, it just makes me

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>really sad because I don't feel like and then I

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>think about like my grandma Orges, other women like it

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>pat in the day, like no one I don't feel

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 2>like there's care for women, especially after having babies. I

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like there's care for women when they're going

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 2>into you know, perimenopause or this, like we just there's

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 2>not enough, Like I don't think support and care.

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I wonder if they've really even figured out

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 3>what to do with it, you know what I mean,

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 3>besides just masket with medicine, you know what I mean,

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Like if you really like look at the history of

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 3>them dealing with mental health, it's never been it's all

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 3>just been so questionable and so just throwing stuff at

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 3>it to see what works. And so I don't know

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 3>if anyone even knows really what to do, like what

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 3>is the answer for that, you know what I mean?

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Like that, And that's frustrating and that's feels very you

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>know whatever. But sometimes I think that that's the part

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 3>of the problem, is no one knows what to do

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>with that, Like Nate's saying that your levels are fine,

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I know, and but you still feel this way. Yeah,

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>So how do we figure this out?

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 4>How?

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I do think there is there has to be at

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>least because this is because I have my period. Now

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I can be hopeful for both of us because I'm

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>two days in and I'm like, oh, everything's okay again, Yeah,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>check back in next week. I'll be like, life's great,

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Everything's right, I know. But like you know, like I

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>try to not be as hard on myself about working

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>out leading up to it. I'm trying to feed myself

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>more or differently leading up to it to just find

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>like maybe the tips and tricks because I'm pretty regiment

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>in with like how I do life, and so I'm

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>just trying to like eat intuitively and go like eating

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and sleeping and all. But it matters differently, Yeah, because

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>if I miss sleep and I'm right before a period,

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sleep is more than anyone realized. It is

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so detrimental, it's wild. Yeah, and then I feel crazy

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just trying to get through the day and

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not fair. Yeah.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And I will say too, last night was the first

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>night that I slept solid and probably because y' all

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 2>know I can deal with my neck issue since June third,

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 2>so like, I have not slept well.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of this can be sleep.

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I am probably very sleep deprived because I'm not sleeping

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>solid at all. Last night was the first night that

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 2>I can remember since before my neck thing that I

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 2>have slept a full eight hour without being interrupted. And

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the only reason was because I was home alone because

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Alan was in Chattanooga, and so I wasn't well, you know,

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>snoring or whatever. Because the second I wake up, you're

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>awake up.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it hurt. You know, I can't fall back

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>asleep because I hurt. So mun I do think I.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Would start with whatever you can to try and get

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 3>solid sleep and see if it helps, yeah at all.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I just think there's now that you know, if you

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>there's just a lot of things that are linking back

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 3>to sleep yep and I just think that it would

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>be maybe helpful, maybe not.

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>But I've got my epidural again on Monday, so because

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I chickened out the last time, so.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>An emotional support person, you know, I was.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>A little stressed that day and I just was freaking

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>out because we were going to the lake, and he

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, it might be it could be worse. And

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if I if I move less right now

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>than I am right now, like moving less and make

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 2>it worse for the next two days.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, these are my last.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Five days with the kids of the lake. So I

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, I will deal with this pain. So like

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>he put the lightning cage in and I was like, oh,

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>that was a little pinch. And then and he also

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>said don't move. Don't tell an anxious person not to move,

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>like and he asked if I want to be sedated,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>but we were going to like I didn't want to

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>be sedated, so don't. Yeah, it's like, you know, you

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 2>can have like spinal.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Cord, like you know, you deally don't want to move

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>into your neck right, And so I'm like stop, stop, stop.

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So I should have gone in there with you. I can't.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't again, yeah, so it's like a legit like

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>you're in like it's a surgery room.

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>It's all right.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 2>So so I have some diet as a PAM and

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking two on a Monday, and I'm going to

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>just let them stick that needle in me because I

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 2>would like to sleep and have no pains, which again

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I think is adding most likely to my fatness.

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Of course, but still has to be dealt with. And

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I still think but it does lead to the conversation

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of yeah, the system and when you're on very menopause

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and you're thinking this could be ten years, and this

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>could be ten years of feeling like this for one

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>week out of a month, that's a really long Yeah,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of life. Yep.

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we should have like a woman's support group.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I think this is it the week before call it?

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I call it the week before anything else about that case?

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Like do you think what do you think the justice

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 2>should be within it? I just like, I know you

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>said the husband you think yeah.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean again right now, it's it's kind of turning

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 3>so much because so much of this evidence is just

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 3>wild and there's so many questions and did he make

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 3>her think that?

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You know all that? So I do think that he

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>needs to be looked at. How soon if you get married?

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious after quickly, I don't know how, but pretty quickly.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 1>So there's that.

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 3>But again, you're not able to hold accountable who I

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 3>think doesn't need to be held accountable the most, but

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 3>the second most, and I think that that is the

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 3>system and the psychiatrist and not having checks and balances

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 3>on what's being given. I would love to see that

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>change in some way in our future. I don't know

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>the answer for that, but something has to change.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Well again, someone's calling a support hotline saying yeah, that

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 2>they feel these ways, and they're like, sorry, you don't

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>fit the criteria.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 3>The system is so messed up when it comes to

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 3>mental health in that way. But when you are at

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>first admitted to a hospital, they will send you to

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 3>like the mental health whatever, but it is I think

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 3>it's twenty four or forty eight hours and then it's like, yeah,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:50.280
<v Speaker 3>it's a messed up system. And you know, it's different

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>by state and all the things, and you know, I

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>don't remember all the details, but that I think is

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 3>the top thing that I think we need to take

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 3>away from this. What she did, if she did it,

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 3>whoever did it to these children is horrific. But there's

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 3>a difference between also postpartum anxiety, postpartum depression, and postpartum psychosis, right,

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, And I think that that's just important to

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:11.919
<v Speaker 3>discuss as well.

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>It is and It's like I've seen things people being like,

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>how could you defend this murderous?

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like I can.

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 2>And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm being completely blindsided by this.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 2>But when you look at murder cases like the Idaho murders,

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>when you look at killers like that, there are killers

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>who again maybe had a really terrible upbringing and they're sick, right.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think then there's people like lindsay that I'm like, again, awful,

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 2>but this is where the system I think, really, but again,

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 2>did the system affect all of them all?

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 3>And I think all I mean, I think if you

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>really go into prisons and look at people that have murdered,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 3>they all have bringing kind of past that has failed them.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Failed them.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't give them the right treatment or you

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>know most yeah, I mean some I think are just yeah,

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>for sure, evil people, but a lot of them.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so they have to pay, you know, I believe

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.919
<v Speaker 3>they have to pay, no matter what the circumstances are.

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 3>But like I don't I don't think that she should

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>just you know, if it's even that she did it,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that she should just get off because,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 3>like I have a hard time with the whole like

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 3>innocent because of whatever. What is it called, like because

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 3>clean insanity? Yeah, insanity. That is a little hard because

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I do feel.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, I think a lot of people can use

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the insanity exactly and they're not.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Right right, So I think that gets tricky and it's sad,

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 3>you know that she might she is a product of

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 3>the system, But I think we still have to take

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 3>it into an account.

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. I do agree with that. Yeah, I

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>struggled a lot yesterday. I remember when the case had

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>or when the when the murders first happened, and then

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I was a little tuned out by it, like I

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have to be a little careful. The way I take

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>information sensitivity for me is like just it is what

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it is. It gets really dark and then it seeps

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>into like a just a lot. So but I remember,

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>so yesterday I was like trying to understand where we

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>are now with it, and I think part the part

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling with I have a lot of righteous anger

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>around this case because sorry, it's a wildly unfair and

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a really hard time watching a court case

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>where a woman gets to take a break, where they

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>stop reading about the murders of her children. And she

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>gets to take a fucking break. That was infuriating to

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>me yesterday. She's wailing because she's listening to what happened

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to her kids and she gets to take a break.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that is not fair. Yeah, she should have

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to listen to every little detail, every detail, and she

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>could be mentally unwell. Those kids didn't get to take

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a break. She doesn't get a break. Yeah. I think

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason she's in a wheelchair and she lived

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>through it, and I think it's between her and God.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>But I the righteous anger I have on behalf of

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>those little babies is so's. It should madden everyone, it

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>should piss everyone off, and it should make everybody look

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>at all parts of it. But it is infuriating to

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>me that she that they got to take a break

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and get some air. And that's ridiculous. That's the part

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that pisses me off the most. Like it just is.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And I can be as Christian as I want to be,

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but it just is. It hurts my heart. And those

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.760
<v Speaker 1>little babies looking at a person that gave them life

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and is taking their life. Are you kidding me? Everyone

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 1>needs to help everyone differently. Her husband should have shown

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>up differently. She should have showed up for herself differently,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like at the point where I'm ready to

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>hurt my babies, I'm not alone with my babies anymore, right,

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't put myself alone with my children anymore.

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there does come some accountability everyone to say.

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So righteous anger in me for the situation. It's part

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of the reason I can't dive all the way in.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But when I saw what I saw yesterday where it

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, we just have to take a break, and

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>she's wailing, and I'm thinking, shame on you. You should

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>have to look at photos and videos and you should

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>have to hear every little thing and justice to children

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>will do this to me every time. Yeah, maddening. Those

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>babies didn't choose to be born. She did that. So sorry,

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm fired up. No, yeah, that's it. It's hard. I

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>don't understand postpartum psychosis. So I don't, you know, like

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been dark in postpartum, right, I have had thoughts,

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>not about hurting anyone else, about hurting myself. Yeah, it's

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking dark to me.

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 3>It's just hard not understanding it to know, is her response. Now,

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Because she's she's so she's out of it obviously, and

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:07.240
<v Speaker 3>now it's like this traumatizing like she didn't in a psychosis.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm assuming you really don't know what you're

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 3>doing and then out of it, and then it's like

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 3>you're reliving your babies being killed.

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Even though it was you. So I responsibility too. If

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 1>you lean that way, it is your responsibility. Stop having children. Yeah,

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>take a minute. I had to prepare myself much differently

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>for Legend than I did for Love. I had to

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>because I knew it was hard on me, whether it

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>was help or And listen, my family's never been there

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to do postpardon with me. So this isn't me sitting

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in some hashtag bless seat going like you know, call

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a grandma. I was fucking alone alone.

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, and I do think, and this is not going

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to be a popular opinion, but this is where I

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 3>have frustration with the going and get more, getting more medicine.

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 3>I do think to an extent, you know what you're

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 3>doing when you were asking for more and more and

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 3>more medicine. You know, like your you're not getting You're

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 3>going to different psychiatrists, You're going to different people to

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 3>get more drugs. I think you become dependent on these

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 3>drugs and it becomes a drug addiction as well, which

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we're really talking about, right, Like there's

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.399
<v Speaker 3>an addiction piece of this where she is going and

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 3>seeking out all these drugs. They should have never given

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 3>them to her, obviously.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just think there's just so much

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>No matter what its fault it is, there's still three

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:34.439
<v Speaker 1>dead little babies. Yeah, yeah, it's very very sad. Well, yeah, sorry,

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fired. No, no, no, I mean it's I think,

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like I just I hear the conversations, and I think

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>all the conversations need to be had. But I think

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>what frustrates me more is is a society we are

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>so so defensive of, like be a better person, be

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a responsible mother. And I'm going to go down in

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a ball of flames because I know there's a trillion

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>opinions about this, but like, and I have been there

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in the darkness, not psychos's necessarily, but depression for sure,

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>postpartum depression. And I just you owe it to the

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 1>little people if you don't even know it to yourself.

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying, but like in

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that too, it's like you're fighting against the devil in

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 2>your brain, right, you know what I mean.

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's where it's like, but why is she alone

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>with them? Why is she having total everyone likes yeah, yeah,

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's where it's like this perfect storm.

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not just like she wasn't dealing with and I

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>totally agree, but like.

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Not in her right mind. Yeah, where it's but that's

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>what a long time to be not in your right mind, strangling,

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>hurting three children, and then yourself not in your right mind.

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>We're talking this is yeah again, why it.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Really gets deeper and people are thinking that he may

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 3>have done this and all of the things, and I

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 3>will hold space for that because God bless if this

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 3>woman didn't do it all.

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And listen, I holy shit, I feel Yeah, I'm not

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>even I'm not saying I don't even know. I I

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>don't even know if she did it or I'm just

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>going the bottom line is it is a lot of

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>distracted talk, and they're three little dead babies and that

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>hurts my heart. Yeah yeah, Okay, Well.

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Episode where we'll have had our periods and everything will

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>be great and I can't wait to talk.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>About right now, I'm supposed to be fine as I

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>started mind, this is why I can't do current events.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I said in the group chat KB, it's hard to

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's hard to.

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Society have group chats.

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 2>By the way, in our school back to school thing,

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the teacher was like the biggest thing they see in

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 2>fifth grade and they just like asked the parents and

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, listen, Julie doesn't have a way to have

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 2>group chats with anybody. But they're like like, without doubt,

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 2>there'll be a group chat of each class. And she's like,

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>someone always gets hurt. Ye And she's like and it's like, please,

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>don't let your kids be in a group chat.

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>So I took my kid out of the group chat

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in fifth grade.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I remember you have someone always gets hurt.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 2>It starts one of the fifth grade chats the same thing.

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, yep.

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.879
<v Speaker 3>I let group chats come back eventually. But when they're

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 3>like learning and starting out with those phones, it was

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 3>a crazy mess.

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>So yepp, don't let it too much. Okay, ladies, see

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you next week. Bye bye.