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Speaker 6: America has chosen a direction and now we are heading
Speaker 6: into it, barreling towards it. Some might say, so let's
Speaker 6: get right into it. In our new segments, Trump two
Speaker 6: point zero coming for the White House.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come.
Speaker 5: Four more years of that.
Speaker 6: Now we all know Trump has big plans for his
Speaker 6: second term, mass deportations, tariffs, and finally building that statue
Speaker 6: of Arnold Palmers. So that's the scale. The question is
Speaker 6: who's going to come to the White House and help
Speaker 6: Trump carry out his glorious agenda. And you know what,
Speaker 6: the man has won the popular vote. He's earned the
Speaker 6: right to pick his new team. We owe it to
Speaker 6: him to hear him out without you know, nitpicking.
Speaker 7: South Dakota Governor Christy Nome is expected to be tapped
Speaker 7: as the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry if I ad nitpick with Christie
Speaker 5: Nome for Homeland Security.
Speaker 6: Are you getting mat She's supposed to get the border
Speaker 6: under control. She couldn't even train her dog. Although I
Speaker 6: will say, I guess we know at least one Mexican
Speaker 6: who's not making it over the border. And very sad,
Speaker 6: very sad, this is our new reality. I mean, this
Speaker 6: woman has no national security experience. She's the governor of
Speaker 6: South Dakota. That isn't even the best Dakota. It goes
Speaker 6: north Fanning Johnson, then the building John Lennon was shot
Speaker 6: outside of then South Dakota. But I will say, Noam
Speaker 6: does have experienced striking fear in the hearts of terrorists.
Speaker 6: Wait I read that wrong. Terriers fear in the hearts
Speaker 6: of terriers. Yeah, sorry, sorry, you know what I said.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't interrupt. So who else is on board? I promise, promise, promise,
Speaker 6: promise not to nitpick.
Speaker 8: The former president, also turning to a former House Member
Speaker 8: Lee Zelden of New York to lead the Environment Mental
Speaker 8: Protection Agency.
Speaker 5: Okay, just a nitpick for a second.
Speaker 6: Republican Congressman Lee Zelden of the last I remember he
Speaker 6: wasn't a big advocate for the environment.
Speaker 5: You know what, you know what, maybe he has.
Speaker 1: Some good ideas.
Speaker 9: What are you planning to do at APA.
Speaker 3: We have the ability to pursue energy dominance, to be
Speaker 3: able to make the United States the artificial intelligence capital
Speaker 3: of the world, to bring back American jobs to the
Speaker 3: auto industry.
Speaker 5: We have the opportunity to roll.
Speaker 3: Back regulations that are forcing businesses.
Speaker 5: To be able to struggle.
Speaker 6: So the head of the EPA's top priority is protecting
Speaker 6: the auto industry, boosting artificial intelligence, and boosting business in general.
Speaker 5: Where's the environment in all this?
Speaker 10: The E?
Speaker 6: I mean, look at this, Look at this this, Because
Speaker 6: the E and EPA just stand for f It's pretty
Speaker 6: cool how our nation's climate policy is like a battle
Speaker 6: over a thermostat. Dad comes in and turns it down,
Speaker 6: then four years later Mom turns it back up, over
Speaker 6: and over until we drown. The truth is, when you
Speaker 6: look at Trump's cabinet picks so far, they're kind of
Speaker 6: all over the place. You got mainstream politician Marco Rubio
Speaker 6: as Secretary of State, far right weirdo Stephen Miller as
Speaker 6: Deputy chief of Staff, congresswoman at least Stafonic as UN ambassador,
Speaker 6: even though she has no diplomatic experience. I mean, what
Speaker 6: common thread could there possibly be? That would explain why
Speaker 6: Trump hired all of them. President Trump risks everything for us.
Speaker 6: Leading us in this fight would be a man who,
Speaker 6: although wounded and facing danger, sure he stood up and
Speaker 6: raised his fist.
Speaker 9: He is the toughest man that I have ever met.
Speaker 9: Nobody has endured more than what he has gone through.
Speaker 3: Nothing, absolutely nothing will stop President Trump from standing and
Speaker 3: fighting for our great country.
Speaker 1: Don't Trump's a style icon?
Speaker 5: Yahoo Woo a style icon.
Speaker 6: Stephen Miller wants to put kids in cages. But that
Speaker 6: is perhaps the most offensive thing he has said. But
Speaker 6: I guess that's the uniting factor. These people are kissing
Speaker 6: Trump's ass so hard They've got bronzer on their nose.
Speaker 6: And yes, he puts it on down there. He covers
Speaker 6: his whole body in it, you know, except for right here,
Speaker 6: for some reason, for the most important person on Trump's
Speaker 6: team right now doesn't have a cabinets.
Speaker 5: Elon Musk, World's.
Speaker 6: Richest man, and guy who looks like a wax statue
Speaker 6: of himself that you look at and say, man, that's a.
Speaker 5: Bad whack statue.
Speaker 6: Since the election, Trump's been getting something that Elon's eleven
Speaker 6: children will never receive. His full attention Elon Musks, who's
Speaker 6: been spotted at mar A Lago basically since election day.
Speaker 3: He's been seeing golfing with Trump and hanging out there
Speaker 3: at dinner.
Speaker 11: He's one of the few people sitting in this makeshift
Speaker 11: situation room that they've built in mar A Lago.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk has been weighing in on some of Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's potential picks, making it clear to the president elect
Speaker 2: who he believes should have that role.
Speaker 6: Oh good, good, the world's richest man is helping the
Speaker 6: president elect run the country. I'm sure by the time
Speaker 6: Elon's done, his businesses will be unregulated. He'll have billions
Speaker 6: and new government contracts, and it'll be illegal to point
Speaker 6: and laugh at a cyber truck.
Speaker 10: Don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 6: Don't make fun of this, don't make fun of it.
Speaker 6: I want to know what else, what else is going
Speaker 6: on in the mar A Lago makeship situation room.
Speaker 2: He's also been sitting in many times when he's been
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump on some of the calls from foreign leaders,
Speaker 2: including Ukrainian President Volodimir Zolensky.
Speaker 9: It must happen to be at the club when Zelensky
Speaker 9: called and Trump put him on speaker.
Speaker 6: Oh, poor, poor Zolensky.
Speaker 5: Hasn't Ukraine been through enough?
Speaker 6: He's he's in a bunker, Russian troops are a massing outside,
Speaker 6: and he's like, don't put Elon on, don't put Elot on, don't.
Speaker 5: Don't heyln Yes, yes, I did see you jump very high.
Speaker 1: Yes, very cool man, very cool.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the hat looked radical man cool.
Speaker 6: I guess because Elon provides Ukraine with Internet through his satellites.
Speaker 6: This was basically a customer service call, which means when
Speaker 6: they put Elon on the phones, Zelenski was probably like, uh,
Speaker 6: I hit it when these things make you talk to
Speaker 6: a robot, human operator, human operator. So now Elon is
Speaker 6: by the President Elect's side, with no oversight or security
Speaker 6: clearances or even a title.
Speaker 8: Responding to speculation about his position in the new administration,
Speaker 8: Musk posted on x I'm happy to be first Buddy.
Speaker 6: Oh you know what, let's go back to not having
Speaker 6: a title home.
Speaker 5: First buddy.
Speaker 6: Sounds like a sequel to Airbud where we elect a
Speaker 6: golden retriever to be president, which, frankly I'd take at
Speaker 6: this point.
Speaker 5: Just looks nice, It looks nice. Just keep it away
Speaker 5: from Christy Nome.
Speaker 6: You know, for more on the relationship between Trump and Musk,
Speaker 6: Let's go live tomorrow Lago with Michael Costam. Michael Michael,
Speaker 6: the world's richest man and the President of the United
Speaker 6: States are colluding out of the public eye. This is
Speaker 6: this is corruption waiting to happen.
Speaker 4: Got your cynical Jordan.
Speaker 11: You know, for you, the glass is half empty, But
Speaker 11: for me, the glass is a shiny.
Speaker 4: Mirror covered in cocaine.
Speaker 11: You may see Trump and Elon as two billionaires colluding
Speaker 11: to promote their own self interest. But I see a
Speaker 11: blossoming friendship between two men, and in a time when
Speaker 11: male friendship is in recession, I think that's something that
Speaker 11: we should be celebrating.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, what are you what are you talking
Speaker 5: about it?
Speaker 6: No, these are two wealthy moguls taking advantage of the system.
Speaker 11: Okay, so there's going to be some conflicts of interest. Yes,
Speaker 11: we're all going to have Elon's comput installed in our brains.
Speaker 11: But what's more important government mandated neurosurgery or two old
Speaker 11: bros viciously vibe o.
Speaker 5: The brain surgery thing is more important.
Speaker 4: You know what I think? You know what I think?
Speaker 11: I think you're just jealous that you don't have a
Speaker 11: male friendship like they do. When was the last time
Speaker 11: you hung out with a male friend Jordan? And I
Speaker 11: mean I mean really hung out.
Speaker 6: Okay, I mean I guess before the pandemic, A few
Speaker 6: years before the pandemic.
Speaker 5: Does my dad.
Speaker 4: Count No, definitely not. See you're lonely okay, but lucky
Speaker 4: for you, I'm right here.
Speaker 11: How many times have I said that you should get
Speaker 11: me a drink after work, or that you should let
Speaker 11: me let you buy me dinner, or that we should
Speaker 11: do a trip for the boys to can Kun that
Speaker 11: you pay for.
Speaker 4: I mean, male friendship is right there.
Speaker 1: My guy.
Speaker 11: You just have to reach out with your visa out
Speaker 11: but a one venture card.
Speaker 1: I grasp it.
Speaker 5: Very generous. My new best friend Michael Kassa.
Speaker 6: Everybody wake, come back, look by out who won story?
Speaker 10: Don't go away show?
Speaker 6: Let's have dominated the news tec Let's take a break
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Speaker 1: Sports.
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Speaker 6: It's a historic day for America. Desi has broken the
Speaker 6: Glass Sea lead and become the first female co.
Speaker 1: Host of Sports War.
Speaker 9: Thanks starting this completely makes up for Kamala not winning. Instead,
Speaker 9: I get the thrill of arguing about sports with an
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Speaker 9: women on the ballot Missouri, a woman's right to choose
Speaker 9: which team she bets on.
Speaker 8: Just thin voters have approved a Missouri amendment to legalizing
Speaker 8: sports betting. The yes votes won by just zero point
Speaker 8: three percent. Missouri is the largest state to allow gambling
Speaker 8: on major sporting events. There will be a ten percent
Speaker 8: sports betting tax rate. That money will then go to
Speaker 8: Compulsive Gamblers Prevention Fund and also Missouri schools.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 9: It used to be that the only way women could
Speaker 9: gamble in Missouri was with a high risk pregnancy. But
Speaker 9: this is great news from Missouri's underfunded public schools. Congratulations
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Speaker 6: Your take is as lame as that blonde wig.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 6: Missouri does not deserve the majesty of legalized sports gambling.
Speaker 6: As the owner of a river boat casino near Kansas City,
Speaker 6: this is really going to destroy my bottom line. Some
Speaker 6: very bad people are not going to be happy by by.
Speaker 9: Thumbs that brings us to my ring iting sure thing
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Speaker 6: He look, and if you're a newly minted gambling addict
Speaker 6: in Missouri, good news. Betting on the twenty twenty eight
Speaker 6: presidential election has already begun.
Speaker 7: Jet's quarterback Aaron Rodgers is among the favorites to win
Speaker 7: the presidency in twenty twenty eight. According to betting sites,
Speaker 7: oddsmakers are giving Rogers a thirty to one or three
Speaker 7: percent chance of becoming the next president, meaning if you
Speaker 7: bet one hundred dollars, you could win three thousand if
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Speaker 5: Ooh, mark my words.
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers will not be president head of the CDC, sure,
Speaker 6: but but president, get real, his name is Aaron. We
Speaker 6: can't have a president named Aaron. That's like having an
Speaker 6: army general named Skyler or a co host named Desi.
Speaker 1: Jordan.
Speaker 9: You anemic Twizzler. You're as tall as you are dumb
Speaker 9: as you are feminine. Aaron Rodgers would make a great president.
Speaker 9: America has to elect someone crazier than Donald Trump in
Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight, otherwise we'll lose our momentum. President Trump
Speaker 9: removes fluoride from our water, then President Rogers removes hydrogen
Speaker 9: from our water.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that just make it oxygen?
Speaker 9: That's right, Oppenheimer. Last time I checked oxygen, was it
Speaker 9: making our kids gay? And yes, Aaron Rodgers has taken
Speaker 9: a lot of hits to the head. But some of
Speaker 9: our best presidents have had brain damage. Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 5: Now those guys. Those guys were.
Speaker 9: Shot in the head, agreed to disagree.
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Speaker 9: Finally, let's move on from odd mental decisions to odd
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Speaker 9: from the New York City Marathon for life his crime
Speaker 9: loving cinema.
Speaker 8: A fitness social media influencer is banned for life from
Speaker 8: the New York City Marathon.
Speaker 12: Twenty nine year old Matthew Troy ran the twenty six
Speaker 12: point two mile route followed by a camera crew on
Speaker 12: e bikes. It was all to film content, including video
Speaker 12: posted here on Instagram.
Speaker 9: This guy is a pioneer. The whole point of exercising
Speaker 9: is to rub it in everyone's faces, Dosi.
Speaker 6: Now, the whole point of exercise is to get in shape.
Speaker 9: And what shape are you? A drinking straw? It's about content,
Speaker 9: which is why my Christmas card this year is just
Speaker 9: a picture of me bed pressing my family. Do you
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Speaker 6: Actually, Miss Ronnie Chang, a marathon is not about content.
Speaker 6: It's about running away from your personal demons. If you're running,
Speaker 6: there's no time to stop and think about how the
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Speaker 9: Next time when we debate whether basketball should have more balls, I.
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Speaker 5: that's a stuper to get Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 6: I guess today is a Harvard professor and social scientist
Speaker 6: who wrote the seminal book Bowling Alone. He's featured in
Speaker 6: the new documentary Join or Die. Please welcome, Robert Putnam.
Speaker 5: Professor, Welcome, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: You wrote a very influential book, Bowling Alone, a few
Speaker 6: decades ago, which sort of chronicled the demise.
Speaker 5: Of the American community.
Speaker 6: To catch us up, what essentially is the thesis of
Speaker 6: that book and why is it still resonant today.
Speaker 13: Well, the story basically is that over the this book
Speaker 13: was published now twenty five years ago. Over the preceding
Speaker 13: twenty five or thirty years before that, another was about
Speaker 13: a half century ago Americans who had historically been connected
Speaker 13: with PNADO. That's what this French philosopher Tookfield said. We
Speaker 13: were the most connected dation in the world. That began
Speaker 13: to change and we started knowing our neighbors less well,
Speaker 13: We started knowing our families less well. We started we
Speaker 13: began to slacken our involvement in community fairs.
Speaker 1: Politics, but not just politics. We started going to fewer,
Speaker 1: we bold as much as ever before bulling.
Speaker 13: But you maybe not know this. Bowling is big in America.
Speaker 13: You know that half of more Americans bold and vote
Speaker 13: in America, right and.
Speaker 6: Boling that's the one where you throw the ball in
Speaker 6: there and you hit with the.
Speaker 5: Racket, is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: Well, you noticed that people the people are still but
Speaker 6: the trend was starting that they weren't bullying in groups anymore.
Speaker 5: That's right, they were bullying essential alone.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 13: Yeah, anyway, that's the story of the book, declining all
Speaker 13: these all these measures.
Speaker 1: Of the way degree to which we were.
Speaker 13: Connected with one or even trusted one another, going down, down, down.
Speaker 13: And then the book went on to say why is that?
Speaker 13: And we had a we had I would change my
Speaker 13: views a little bit about what caused it?
Speaker 6: Is it just because people got worse and they suck
Speaker 6: a little bit more? So we don't we don't want
Speaker 6: to hang out with people anymore.
Speaker 13: You want to see the trying the pie chart in
Speaker 13: the book that shows percentages, I would.
Speaker 5: I love me a good pie chart. Yeah, show me,
Speaker 5: I got a pie chart for you want to see
Speaker 5: this chart? Pretty?
Speaker 4: So why is it?
Speaker 1: Well, it was it's a lot of different things.
Speaker 13: Partly, Uh, people spending more time commuting and less time
Speaker 13: for you know, hanging out with friends. Uh, I thought,
Speaker 13: then I'm I allowed to say this on this show.
Speaker 5: Let's see, let's hear what it is.
Speaker 13: The television. Television was most of the No, it turns
Speaker 13: out that's not true.
Speaker 1: But I mean I did.
Speaker 5: Think television was part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were.
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's done only wonderful things for our community.
Speaker 5: We liked it.
Speaker 6: A person who became fake famous on television. No, it's
Speaker 6: warped everybody's mind. We're doing it right now. You're currently
Speaker 6: warping people's mind right now. There are people who, instead
Speaker 6: of spending time with their family, we're like, I'm going
Speaker 6: to watch Robert Putnam alone on television.
Speaker 13: Well, we instead of having friends, we started watching friends.
Speaker 1: That's the basic picture. You may not remember. There was
Speaker 1: a program, Oh I know, that was.
Speaker 6: The one with George went They all hung out at
Speaker 6: a bar. I know everything about culture.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was.
Speaker 13: And the worst of it is I thought this might continue.
Speaker 13: Of course, I was writing the book because I wanted
Speaker 13: people to not going down this trend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what happened.
Speaker 5: We continued to bowl alone.
Speaker 1: It's gotten worse every way.
Speaker 6: Well, it does feel like we are disconnected from communities.
Speaker 6: I think you know, people are talking about this this
Speaker 6: election I want to get your take on what you saw.
Speaker 5: People like.
Speaker 6: Steve Bannon was talking about how influential this book was
Speaker 6: even AOC and just yesterday was talking about how we
Speaker 6: need to form these communities. People are still talking about
Speaker 6: your book and what resonates there. Do you see what
Speaker 6: happened in this last election. It's connected to the trends
Speaker 6: that you saw.
Speaker 13: Yeah, so see Bannon is trump scuru and I'm.
Speaker 5: I think too well. Definitely part of his I'm the.
Speaker 13: Guru's guru is that the way this I hate that idea,
Speaker 13: but that's true. What I said then was that America
Speaker 13: was becoming steadily more fragmented, more isolated, more less connected
Speaker 13: with our less trusting people around us. And and that
Speaker 13: was true, and Bannon advised Trump that that's was their
Speaker 13: path the victory was to look for those people who
Speaker 13: were just completely isolated, fragmented and didn't have any connections,
Speaker 13: and they were going to give them some real connections.
Speaker 13: And actually the data show, I believe believe in data,
Speaker 13: the data show they were right. That is to say,
Speaker 13: the more socially isolated you were, the more likely you
Speaker 13: were to vote for Trump.
Speaker 6: So I know there's a famous quote that says like
Speaker 6: dictators pray on loneliness and essentially plays off of that idea.
Speaker 6: That's right, I mean, do you see I mean when
Speaker 6: I hear this the ideas behind building alone and by
Speaker 6: the documentary that is out right now, it doesn't it
Speaker 6: points to what is good about joining communities. I mean,
Speaker 6: I've always felt that when I am a part of groups.
Speaker 6: I don't know if the answer to save our democracy
Speaker 6: is me joining yet another improv team. I don't know
Speaker 6: if that saves everything. But I also see I go
Speaker 6: into the Trump world a lot, I go to MAGA events,
Speaker 6: and I see in these these these groups, I see connection,
Speaker 6: but I also see like a lack of accountability for people.
Speaker 6: We talk about how cruelty infester in these like I
Speaker 6: hear this question in this that is posed in this
Speaker 6: this film, which is like, you need to join a
Speaker 6: group to save American democracy. Uh, but what do you
Speaker 6: say to people who are like, well, the oathkeeper keepers
Speaker 6: are letting people in, Like how do you, uh, how
Speaker 6: do you how do you find the right group or
Speaker 6: or how is this a time that's reflective of people
Speaker 6: finding the wrong groups or people feeling alone and therefore
Speaker 6: being manipulated by others who want to utilize that for
Speaker 6: onto it unto what means.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of all of that. Could I
Speaker 1: use some jargon on this show.
Speaker 6: I love jargon. This show is so pro jargon. We
Speaker 6: love pie charts and the kids think people. Come on, professor,
Speaker 6: give me something.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 13: The distinction is between bridging social capital and bonding social capital.
Speaker 13: So bridging social capital are my tip to other people
Speaker 13: just like me. So my ties other white, male, elderly
Speaker 13: Jewish professors, that's my bridging bonding social capital. But we're
Speaker 13: all bonding together because we're all similar. Yeah, And bridging
Speaker 13: social capital my ties to people who are different from me,
Speaker 13: like my ties to you know, I don't know, to
Speaker 13: people of a different race or a different gender, or
Speaker 13: a different age or whatever. I'm not saying bridging good
Speaker 13: bonding bad, because if you get sick, the people who
Speaker 13: bring you chicken soup will be your bonding social capital.
Speaker 1: But I am saying that a society.
Speaker 13: Like ours, which is very diverse, needs a lot of
Speaker 13: bridging social capital with me so far.
Speaker 1: I mean, and so bridging good bonding bad.
Speaker 5: You don't have to dumb it down that much.
Speaker 13: But here wait a minute, is also the case that
Speaker 13: building bridging social capital is harder than bonding social capital.
Speaker 13: My grandmother actually knew that. She said, Bobby, birds of
Speaker 13: a feather flock together. She meant Bobby, bonding social capital
Speaker 13: is easier to build in bridging social capitals. She didn't
Speaker 13: think I'd understand what I meant, which is why she
Speaker 13: used the avy in metaphors. But okay, so we're stuck
Speaker 13: down in a situation which the kind of connections we
Speaker 13: need are hard to build, and the canigins of connections,
Speaker 13: you could say, sort of substitute connections. That is the
Speaker 13: bonding social capital. That's what the proud Boys are. Is
Speaker 13: that I tried to answer your question.
Speaker 5: You did it.
Speaker 6: You use jargon, and you use a nice little anecdote
Speaker 6: about the birds. I understand, I understand the bridging capital
Speaker 6: is going to be more difficult. Where examples where that
Speaker 6: as successful? I think right now you have a lot
Speaker 6: of people here who feel perhaps lost, disconnected from culture
Speaker 6: and or society and or their neighbors. Like, what are
Speaker 6: examples that you're seeing of bridging this divide and finding
Speaker 6: that cat.
Speaker 13: Well, first of all, can I say there is a
Speaker 13: documentary movie that is the occasion for our getting to
Speaker 13: other and talk. And they have a lot of in
Speaker 13: the movie.
Speaker 6: Became by your movie, the movie you're in that follows you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you don't have to be coy about it. This medium
Speaker 6: is all about being blunt, just saying, like, watch my
Speaker 6: movie kids.
Speaker 13: What I met was that people have produced the movie
Speaker 13: Pete and Rebecca Davis highlight groups that any of us
Speaker 13: could form right now, new kinds of groups, not the
Speaker 13: old fashioned rotary clubs or whatever, new kinds of groups.
Speaker 1: But they they're bridging and they're not about politics.
Speaker 13: Can I emphasize that we don't want to begin this
Speaker 13: is what AOC said.
Speaker 1: We don't want to begin.
Speaker 13: Now by having a If we're trying to move the
Speaker 13: country back in a better direction, we shouldn't begin thinking
Speaker 13: we've got to start with the politics. We've got to
Speaker 13: start with just knowing our neighbors. She meant to say, bowlingly,
Speaker 13: she didn't. What she said was knitting leagues.
Speaker 6: Okay, but so you managed you didn't reference your book, no, Loo,
Speaker 6: because all authors.
Speaker 13: Don't care whether way we become famous. We just want
Speaker 13: to be sure we get the facts right.
Speaker 5: Is that that's not been the case as far as I.
Speaker 13: Okay, so back, what do we do now? We have
Speaker 13: to begin local. We have to begin with kids because
Speaker 13: that's the next generation. We have to begin not necessarily
Speaker 13: with politics. And you asked me about how do we bridge?
Speaker 13: I want to kind I just use a personal example.
Speaker 13: I live up in a little neighborhood in neighborhood on
Speaker 13: the Sticks in New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: We have a little neighborhood association. That's my one group,
Speaker 1: and we have a lot of things in common.
Speaker 13: We all have to worry about the snow, and I
Speaker 13: want to make sure that something's going to help me.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little old, so I can't.
Speaker 13: I need to help somebody else shovel me out when
Speaker 13: it gets bad. And we were having a neighborhood association
Speaker 13: meeting a couple of weeks ago, and I discovered that
Speaker 13: one of these.
Speaker 1: People was it Trump supporter.
Speaker 13: Now, hold on, I'm making a I know you know
Speaker 13: that I'm making a subtle point here.
Speaker 1: So here's the theoretical point.
Speaker 13: When you want to bridge, look for something that bonds
Speaker 13: across that right, So what bonds me and this guy
Speaker 13: are who's going to shovel out?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 13: And we're going to help one another shovel and can
Speaker 13: we get the snowplow to actually come. That's our bonding.
Speaker 13: But just for a moment, I was put in by Shew.
Speaker 13: I was enabled to put myself in his shoes and
Speaker 13: him in my shoes because we were bonded by all
Speaker 13: these other things.
Speaker 1: But bridging the political divide.
Speaker 13: Maybe that's a little too personal as a story, but
Speaker 13: what it's a story that illustrates that's how you do it.
Speaker 13: You don't try to force yourself to sort to make
Speaker 13: friends with people who you think are evil. You have
Speaker 13: make you make encounters with other people who you know
Speaker 13: are decent people. He actually would come over and and
Speaker 13: shove my sidewalks, but he turns out also to be
Speaker 13: a Trump supporter. Is that I don't know if that
Speaker 13: makes sense or not.
Speaker 5: Probably not, Oh, I believe it.
Speaker 6: I feel like as somebody, somebody who can do very
Speaker 6: little physical labor, I'm constantly looking for other people to
Speaker 6: do it for me too. And if I were to
Speaker 6: bet the people who own snowplows and that type of equipment,
Speaker 6: it doesn't necessarily happen on the blue side of the eye.
Speaker 6: So make some friends because you're going to need some
Speaker 6: help down the line.
Speaker 13: And we've I just want to go back a little
Speaker 13: bit to the big picture, because I don't do like
Speaker 13: current events.
Speaker 1: I want to give a historical framework.
Speaker 5: And how far back are we going?
Speaker 13: Well, before you were born, fifty years ago, Bob, this
Speaker 13: is I mean, TikTok, buddy, TikTok.
Speaker 5: I'll take me there.
Speaker 1: I'll be quick.
Speaker 13: Over the last fifty years, we have become fifty years,
Speaker 13: not over the last five or ten years. We've become
Speaker 13: steadily more polarized, steadily more unequal, steadily more disconnected. That's
Speaker 13: the bowling alone part, steadily less more narcissistic.
Speaker 1: Fifty years.
Speaker 13: Trump did not cause that. Trump was the consequence of that.
Speaker 13: And if Trump goes away, we're still going to have
Speaker 13: that problem that we don't know our neighbors and don't
Speaker 13: trust our friends, don't have friends.
Speaker 1: And moreover, it's class biased, by which.
Speaker 13: I mean people were college educated, people like you and
Speaker 13: me and maybe the audience. We have a lot of
Speaker 13: friends still, but people the two thirds of Americans who
Speaker 13: are not college educated, they are very likely to have
Speaker 13: no friends at all. Now, that is a time bomb.
Speaker 13: We've and I talked about it already ten to fifteen,
Speaker 13: twenty years ago. I've not yet had success, but I'm
Speaker 13: hoping that tonight will be the beginning of my success.
Speaker 6: America, get your friends, pull them together, sit in front
Speaker 6: of the television and watch the film and understand. We
Speaker 6: can We can do this together, Because dear Lord, who
Speaker 6: else is going to move the snow off? Join or
Speaker 6: Die is available now on Netflix. Robert Putnam, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Take a quick rob.
Speaker 5: I've that show for tonight now here. It is love
Speaker 5: an event.
Speaker 11: People keep bringing up this loyalty garbage, and I don't
Speaker 11: you do need someone that's loyal to your agenda absolutely
Speaker 11: and who.
Speaker 5: Doesn't want to you know, listen and unequivocally.
Speaker 11: So if I want you're the managing editor of Fox
Speaker 11: Business right, what time is it now?
Speaker 1: What you are suppose?
Speaker 5: I hated you and I worked every day to undermine you.
Speaker 4: I should be fired.
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