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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Toads Leggy, Hey, everybody, it's

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Speaker 1: the Philly Show. It's Wednesday, July twenty third, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: How are we feeling, guys?

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Speaker 2: Excellent?

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Speaker 3: A little bit better than I was feeling after the

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Speaker 3: Angel series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Phillies. We talked about this the other day.

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Speaker 1: The Phillies have had lost three straight series. Well, now

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Speaker 1: they won a series. Now they won it. They won

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Speaker 1: the first two games against the Red Sox, first series

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Speaker 1: win since they took two or three from the reds

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Speaker 1: over Fourth of July weekends. So beat the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night for one. Chris Sanchez pretty good. A

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Speaker 1: lot of craziness in this series, walk offers, interference, steal

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Speaker 1: of home slash, catcher's interference, slash, slash back in the

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Speaker 1: first inning on Tuesday. It's a lot of great stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Christopher Sanchez. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about those catchers interference. We're gonna talk about Gauge Wood,

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Speaker 1: the Phillies first round draft picks signing. He was at

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Speaker 1: the ballpark on Tuesday. Maybe talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: some of the comments that Dave Dombrowski made on Monday

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Speaker 1: about David Robertson and the Bult band and the lineup

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Speaker 1: and all sorts of things. But let's start with Christopher Sanchez.

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Speaker 3: Your weave is so nice and tight and high. How

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Speaker 1: If you're not watching on YouTube, really you should be.

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Speaker 4: You really should be look at the just to see

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Speaker 4: his moss. It's tremendous. Anyway, I carn't say that you

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Speaker 1: like to get up early and record these podcasts, as

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So thanks, Reuben, I appreciate that. Nice got

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Speaker 1: my got my chest out a little bit. So let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Chris Sanchez with the park's first pitch. First

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Speaker 1: Pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at

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Speaker 1: last Christopher Sanchez last night, third complete game of his career,

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Speaker 1: four hits, one run aloud, no walks, twelve strikeouts. The

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Speaker 1: guy should have been an NL All Star. We've we

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Speaker 1: talked about that last week. But man, I'm telling you what.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the numbers last night as I'm writing

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Speaker 1: the story, I'm going this guy is going to get

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Speaker 1: some As Jim predicted in late March, Jim specifically said,

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Speaker 1: Ruben top three, cy Young finish.

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Speaker 4: And he knew very well right after Skimes and Wheeler

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Speaker 4: he is he might be in there.

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Speaker 2: He is now.

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Speaker 4: He is now a true candidate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.

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Speaker 5: According to Baseball Reference, he's number two in the majors

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Speaker 5: in pitching war, behind Skeens and ahead of Wheeler. He's

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Speaker 5: number two with a five point two war. Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: was I mean, if I know Ruben loves war and

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Speaker 5: he's you know, I mean, he's a little lower in

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Speaker 1: He is Jim fangrafs. He is fit in baseball all

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Speaker 1: fifth behind Scooble, Crochet, Skeins, and Wheeler. But he he's

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Speaker 5: Baseball Reference he's number two at five point two, so

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Speaker 5: I don't know split the difference.

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Speaker 2: It's an awesome, awesome run.

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Speaker 5: This young man is on power power sinker, great, great

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Speaker 5: change up racking up tons of K's last six starts.

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Speaker 5: I wrote down some numbers last six starts. He's averaged

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Speaker 5: seven innings.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 5: He's got a one point two two ERA. And how

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Speaker 5: about this forty six strikeouts, four walks or walks.

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Speaker 4: That's Cliff Lee plus.

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Speaker 3: Really, when you think about it, it's like Cliff Lee

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's bigger stuff than both those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's been so good.

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Speaker 3: I've been so impressed by just his overall development. I've

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Speaker 3: said it many many times. I'll say it again, from

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Speaker 3: where he was to where he is. When he came

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Speaker 4: Trade, traded that bat. Curtis could Curtis is it?

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Speaker 3: Curtis Curtis mead right handed bat. You got into the

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Speaker 3: he's there anymore. I haven't really been paying too much

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Speaker 3: attention to Tampa Bay. But I'll tell you this guy

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Speaker 4: That's how good it is. Because for me, I just

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Speaker 4: I just love the character, the heart, the desire, all.

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Speaker 3: The things that are associated with becoming a great player.

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Speaker 4: He has all those things.

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Speaker 3: He cares, he wants to learn, he wants to get better,

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Speaker 3: I love the way he competes on the mound, all

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Speaker 3: the ingredients, and for them to sign him and have

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Speaker 3: the intelligence and the forethought and foresight to be able

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Speaker 3: million for four years with two club options affordable club

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Speaker 3: option numbers this guy on the floor, I mean this

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Speaker 3: the man would make forty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Think.

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Speaker 5: I think that club friendly deal which was proposed by

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Speaker 5: it's a really club friendly deal. I left the money

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Speaker 5: But maybe he knew he was going to be this

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Speaker 5: very dedicated young man. Uh, he must be very coachable.

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Speaker 5: He's learned a lot, picked up a lot from from

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Speaker 5: and he's become he's become like a great pitcher. That

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Speaker 5: was really an electric performance last night, but a series

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Speaker 2: Tons of fun, a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get yeah, I want him to

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Speaker 3: of things nutrition wise, you know, I think you might

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Speaker 4: Was a lot of talk last year he had like

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Speaker 3: Allege a lot of things going on that he's done

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Speaker 3: a question about whether he can sustain this in the

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Speaker 3: second half. He didn't have a couple of great two

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Speaker 1: He's got eighty five strikeouts on changeups lead major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, the thing I've noticed is,

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Speaker 1: and it makes sense, the growth of his You can

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Speaker 1: just see his confidence just escalating from year to your year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I just based off of our dealings

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Speaker 1: he's very short, very kind of like unsure of himself.

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Speaker 1: He's very He's much more open talking to us now.

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Speaker 1: He smiles a lot more, he jokes around a lot more.

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Speaker 1: And how about that reaction he had last night in

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Speaker 1: the eighth inning when he's yeah, when he's when he

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Speaker 1: Why am I drawing a blank on his name anyway?

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Speaker 1: Reuch Schneider, Yeah, right, yeah, right, right exactly, And he said.

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Speaker 1: I asked him, African, why are you so fired up there?

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Speaker 1: He said, well, he got me earlier and then I

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Speaker 1: It was great, It was great. He showed a ton

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Speaker 5: Ninety seven with Sink and that change up, it's just

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Speaker 5: a great, devastating package. And you just think about October

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Speaker 5: with him and Wheel are coming at you one two.

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Speaker 2: That's a great place to start.

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Speaker 4: And that's why there's not a better one too in

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Speaker 4: the game. There's that's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, base and especially Jim you just started

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Speaker 1: lot of people have said, like, well, maybe you maybe

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Speaker 1: Why would you want two innings of Chris Sanchez when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun to think about, you know, two

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Speaker 5: Though they have an excellent starting rotation, He's superior him

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Speaker 1: We're back. What'd you guys think of the catcher's interference

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Speaker 5: I thought, I thought it sucked that he lost out

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Speaker 2: And I thought the umpire made a great call. Man,

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Speaker 5: He was on it as soon as that catcher's foot

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Speaker 5: Good for Bryce hustle and play Bryce. You know, that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great play. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: You know the right hander this Richard Fitz. I mean,

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Speaker 3: He was well off the third basement, was well off

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Speaker 3: Jim Like, when he's feeling really good about his game,

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Speaker 5: It's It's like a golf swing, rub And I'm serious,

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Speaker 2: When you're not.

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Speaker 1: Bryce wasn't sure, but he thought that that might have

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first?

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Speaker 4: Was it against the Fightings?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Cole Hill's game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fake.

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Speaker 1: Called called Cole fake tough, Ruben Mike, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: I love that whole exchange because my left handed pitcher

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if we I think we might

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine times out of one hundred. Every pitcher will

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim and I.

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Speaker 2: I pulled a hammy.

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Speaker 4: I literally started.

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Speaker 3: And then and then well I didn't start ripping him

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Speaker 4: Well, how come you're not backing them. I go backing

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Speaker 3: He just stuck his foot in his mouth and he's

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Speaker 4: Or whatever the hell it was.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like we were Tom cruising Jack Nicholson

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Speaker 4: I threw because that back then he had he had.

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Speaker 3: The pensity to say things that he probably would not

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Speaker 3: as a major leaguer he would not have done that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah no.

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Speaker 2: And then remember Rizzo's quote about fake tough.

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Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, I think our next

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Speaker 5: can I take a picture of that?

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Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, just don't use my face. So I

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Speaker 4: So that's funny, man. But that was cool.

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Speaker 1: That was that was It was just it was just

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Speaker 1: Edwin Jim Inez was right on it. It would have

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Speaker 1: high school, Ruben, did you see that? Yes, you were

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Speaker 1: Friol says, and I did on you. Do you remember this, Ruben?

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Speaker 4: I thought it was. I remember it. I don't remember

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Speaker 3: I was Ambidexter's pitcher, but I don't think I did

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Speaker 4: Okay, I did it.

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Speaker 3: I never pitched in I never pitched one game ever

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Speaker 4: Maybe in JV, maybe JV, then maybe JV.

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Speaker 4: I didn't play very many games.

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Speaker 3: I sort of got shooted up a few times because

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Speaker 4: I don't think, but.

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Speaker 3: I hear that all the time. This in One time

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Speaker 4: Hey, Rubin, I struck you out when you were a kid.

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Speaker 2: I go, congratulations, showing the club so funny.

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Speaker 1: Well you I mean that, I mean, what a huge

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Speaker 1: Those are the things I guess if you're playing Little

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Speaker 4: There you get your puff your chest out.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean, like like the kid in high

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Speaker 1: I a few years ago I talked to a kid

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Speaker 1: He's like. He's like, dude, I show that video all

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. We're gonna talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: Jesus Lizardo not the Lizard King. Jim, He's not the

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Speaker 2: Oh he is.

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Speaker 5: He is the Lizard King, says it on Baseball Reference.

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Speaker 2: Was very exciting.

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Speaker 2: Game in the eighthening.

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Speaker 5: So I asked him yesterday, he's still pissed about that

442
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Speaker 5: about hitting that guy.

443
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Speaker 2: He goes, I think about it every day.

444
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Speaker 4: That's great, right out of my mouth.

445
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Speaker 3: As far as Ricky Battallico is concerned, because he does

446
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Speaker 3: have that sort of physique, it looks like he sort

447
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: of has that mentality to that bulldog type of mentality,

448
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: which can bode well, especially when you're in you know,

449
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Speaker 3: especially no doubt. And Brian Barbara talked about this about

450
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Speaker 3: makeup and what it meant to pitch.

451
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Speaker 4: In Philadelphia as opposed to other places.

452
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Speaker 3: Brian Barbara, the scouting director, you know, he talked about

453
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Speaker 3: how important that is, and especially in Philadelphia. Now there's

454
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Speaker 3: a lot of talk about whether the guy can come

455
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Speaker 3: up and pitch right away in this bullpen. You know,

456
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Speaker 3: if you get him ready and get him physically ready,

457
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: is it possible. It's not out of the realm of possibility.

458
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Speaker 3: But you just can't put that kind of heat on

459
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Speaker 3: the guy. You just don't know him well enough yet.

460
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Speaker 3: You gotta get him ramped back up. He only had

461
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Speaker 3: what thirty seven and two thirds innings or something like

462
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Speaker 3: that this year and got some shoulder issues, you know,

463
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Speaker 3: with power stuff. With the maximum effort type of a guy,

464
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Speaker 3: you got to be careful. He's an important piece. He's

465
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Speaker 3: signed for a ton of money, and uh, you know,

466
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Speaker 3: you got to you gotta.

467
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Speaker 4: Take care of this kid. But you never know.

468
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Speaker 3: If the guy's throwing well, and he's and you feel

469
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Speaker 3: like he has the makeup, can you throw him in

470
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Speaker 3: the back of a bullpen.

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Speaker 4: It's possible.

472
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's probable, and I don't think it's

473
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Speaker 3: fair to the kid, and I don't think it's necessarily

474
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: the right thing to do. But in this day and age, shoot,

475
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: they're throwing everybody to the big leagues quick, so you

476
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Speaker 3: never know.

477
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Speaker 2: I agree it's unlikely and risky. I mean, you're trying

478
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Speaker 2: to develop a guy for the long haul.

479
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Speaker 5: But you know, if he blows he's going to pitch

480
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 5: competitively at some point this summer, starting in clear Water.

481
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 5: If he's blowing people away, you never know. But if

482
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Speaker 5: things go the way that they need to go for

483
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Speaker 5: the Phillies of the trade deadline, and if Kirkering and

484
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Speaker 5: Strong and David Robertson guys, you know, continue to pitch

485
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Speaker 5: well or step up, you know, hopefully they're not going

486
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Speaker 5: to need.

487
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Speaker 2: Him, right.

488
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Speaker 3: I mean, they could go along the model of the

489
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Rays, where they just keep firing guys up

490
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Speaker 3: to the big leagues that they blow out, who cares

491
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Speaker 3: so bring up the next guy.

492
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a model that some teams.

493
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Speaker 3: Are doing because they don't have a lot of money

494
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Speaker 3: to spend and capital to spend on the big league players,

495
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: and so what they're doing is they're running them up

496
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Speaker 3: to the big leagues. They're maximizing everything they throw, either

497
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Speaker 3: their breaking.

498
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: Ball or their fastball. They let them blow out physically.

499
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Speaker 3: And I think players and teams are understanding this better now,

500
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: so they backed up, back this off a little bit.

501
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: But that was what was happening in a lot of organizations,

502
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Speaker 3: and I think it's you know, it's not good for

503
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Speaker 3: baseball number one, it's not good for the player, and

504
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Speaker 3: I think that they have to be a little bit

505
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Speaker 3: more judicious when they make these decisions.

506
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you need to develop a pitcher, whether he's a starter,

507
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: which I think he wants to be, or a bullpen guy.

508
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 5: You need to develop a quality, contributing major league pitcher.

509
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: This starting the staff for the long haul. The staff's

510
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Speaker 5: going to be in flux over the next few years,

511
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Speaker 5: and you need to have that next generation ready to

512
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Speaker 5: ready to move in.

513
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Speaker 2: And you can almost see their strategy in their draft

514
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: this year. Their first eight picks were pitchers.

515
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Speaker 4: Uh.

516
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Speaker 5: The first six were college pitchers conceivably guys who could

517
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Speaker 5: move quicker if everything goes well in the development process.

518
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Speaker 2: Not everybody's gonna get there, but you deepen your pool

519
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: and you.

520
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 5: Have more chance of guys, you know, coming to the

521
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Speaker 5: surface and making it to the big league.

522
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Speaker 2: So I was impressed with the kid. I kind of

523
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Speaker 2: liked his.

524
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Speaker 5: Uh, little swagger and his little bit of toughness, and

525
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Speaker 5: I like his big fastball, and I like his hammer.

526
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Speaker 5: Two elite pitches which make you think, yeah, maybe bullpen

527
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Speaker 5: maybe close with that attitude. But he also throws a

528
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Speaker 5: uh he said, a cutter and a split, and they're

529
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Speaker 5: going to try to develop full four pitch repertoire and

530
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Speaker 5: uh and develop a starting pitcher, which I think is

531
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Speaker 5: very smart because you can always transition to the bullpen

532
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Speaker 5: down the road after you build some innings.

533
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Speaker 1: And for what it's worth. Chatting real briefly yesterday with

534
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: pressed a man the Phillies GM, I asked him about

535
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe possibly joining the bullpen later this year, and he

536
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of he basically his words were, basically, he has

537
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: those two pitches meeting the fastball and the breaking ball.

538
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Speaker 1: He's like, but we view him as a we view

539
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: him as a starter. So in other words, there's no yeah,

540
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: there's no there's no internal expectations. I think that like,

541
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Speaker 1: we got to get this guy ready. He's he's got

542
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: to come up and help us this year, you know.

543
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Speaker 1: And they're also got in their plans.

544
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Speaker 5: They also signed that seventh rounder, yes, Matthew Fisher, really

545
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 5: high ceiling high school kid from Indiana who was going

546
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Speaker 5: to go to Indiana University. But they threw a lot

547
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Speaker 5: of money on him and he's in the system. Now,

548
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 5: that's a nice get that that kid was projected to

549
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Speaker 5: be like a top fifty pick and he slid because

550
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Speaker 5: of the college commitment.

551
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Speaker 2: That's a nice.

552
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Speaker 4: Get that was.

553
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Speaker 1: He got one point two five million dollars. The slot

554
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: value there was two hundred and fifty seven thousand, and

555
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: then according to Jim Callison dot com, that's a record

556
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Speaker 1: for a seventh round pick signing bonus, So that's a huge,

557
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: huge number. So yeah, the Phillies were excited that they

558
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: selected him and that he's signed with them, so they

559
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Speaker 1: that's a guy definitely to kind of keep an eye

560
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Speaker 1: on what Dave Dombrowski talked on Monday, following David Robertson

561
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Speaker 1: being signed. He talked about plans for Robertson. He talked

562
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Speaker 1: about going out and getting more bullpen help. He said,

563
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, Alec Boem's injury doesn't influence how we're looking

564
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Speaker 1: at acquiring a bat or not. Talked a little bit

565
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Speaker 1: about Justin Crawford and Andrew Painter. Anything jump out to you, guys.

566
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Speaker 1: I thought the one interesting thing was the most interesting

567
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Speaker 1: thing to me was when he was asked about Justin Crawford.

568
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: He basically said, we've thought about him a lot. We

569
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Speaker 1: kind of need to see how things shake out up

570
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 1: here in the big leagues before we figure out what

571
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: to do with him, because when he comes up, he

572
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: needs to play, which is obvious you're not going to

573
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Speaker 1: bring up Justin Crawford and him played a week, but

574
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Speaker 1: it sounds like, you know, he could be in the

575
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: mix right up there. And what happens before July thirty first,

576
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Speaker 1: you know, if somebody gets released or somebody gets traded,

577
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: maybe we see Justin Crawford the last two months of

578
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: the season, did you guys see you know what you

579
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: would you guys think.

580
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Speaker 5: Kind of the vibe I got that we might see

581
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: him right out of right after the deadline if he's

582
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: still here, depending on who moves, who comes in, and

583
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: who leaves, and he's he's he's you know, obviously hitting

584
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Speaker 5: over three hundred, he gets on base at a good

585
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: looking player, So and it sounded like they really value him.

586
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Speaker 2: So we'll see, uh you know, they lose Bam. I

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: got to tell you this.

588
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 5: I heard a name in the clubhouse yesterday from a player,

589
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: and that was Gino Suarez.

590
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: So I there's you.

591
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Speaker 5: Know, we know they need a bat, we know they

592
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 5: need a bullpun guy. But there's some uh you know,

593
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: it's it's at least floating around in guy's head that

594
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: heads that Suarez is out there. And we've to talked

595
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: about that in the past. It would necessitate probably swore

596
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: we're ending up in left field, but it's something to

597
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: think about.

598
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Speaker 1: Tell you what, Ruben hay Out, I love it.

599
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Speaker 4: I would love it.

600
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Speaker 3: I think that there's got to be some protection for me.

601
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Speaker 3: There's got to be some protection for Bryce Harper right

602
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: now in that lineup, the way it's constituted and.

603
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Speaker 5: The way he's swinging. He imagined he's like crushing extra

604
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Speaker 5: base hits. Imagine if he had real protection.

605
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I really feel like the right handed

606
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: bat is an important piece of it. And if they

607
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: can't really nail down the back end of the bullpen

608
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: guy and they only have one move to make, they

609
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: may check off and go to that big bat and

610
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Speaker 3: try to slug and hope that they score enough run

611
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Speaker 3: so that they give that sort of semi shaky bullpen

612
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to have a little leeway. So if they're

613
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Speaker 3: in for a two or three run lead in the

614
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Speaker 3: eighth or ninth, they got a better chance in winning

615
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Speaker 3: the ball game rather than a one run lead. You know,

616
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Speaker 3: I would rather them get a lockdown closer. I just

617
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: don't think that they're going to be able to get them.

618
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: And if they can't, then go get a bat and

619
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Speaker 3: try to slug a little bit and see what happens.

620
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Speaker 3: But it's interesting, and I don't I don't think there's

621
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Speaker 3: any issue at all with with them taking Schoreber to

622
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: left field, because hene O would end up being probably

623
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Speaker 3: at the d H bom at third.

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Speaker 4: It'll be very interesting, I'll tell you. That's all.

625
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Speaker 3: The Other thing about Crawford is I think he's either

626
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: going to be in the big leagues on on August

627
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: first for the Phillies or in the big leagues with

628
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: somebody else, and and he sort of deserves it at

629
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: this stage of the game. If he doesn't get traded,

630
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be in the big leagues

631
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: because I think when they say, aw things are going

632
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: to play out, it's one whether he's going to get

633
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: traded or not, but two you have to continue to

634
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: like sort of assess where you're going to go with

635
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: mac Kepler and Brandon Marsh. Neither one of them have been,

636
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: you know, particularly stellar. Brandon Marsh obviously a little bit

637
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: better lately. But you know, Kepler hits a home run yesterday,

638
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: and you know, can he get jump started? He walked

639
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: once or twice, got on base, did some things.

640
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: Can he get going?

641
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's been a long time and

642
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: he hasn't been he's been subpar. But I think a

643
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: lot of it depends on those two guys how they

644
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: play in the next two weeks, because I think the

645
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: assessment is if they don't really step forward, one of

646
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: those guys are going to be off the club.

647
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: And you don't think they're going to get a closer.

648
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: I just feel like if they don't, because the price

649
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: on the closer is so big.

650
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: Jim, But like, how can they without another big arm

651
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: back there?

652
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: How can they go with that?

653
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: How can they compete? Don't How can they go where

654
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: they want to go?

655
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: We know where they want to go.

656
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 5: How can you get there without somebody shutting down the

657
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: last hours?

658
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: I disagree.

659
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: I guess maybe if they can't get them and the

660
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: price is too big, they're gonna have to mix and

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Speaker 3: match with robertson Strom, Kirkering, Lazarre who stepped forward and

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00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: pitched really well lately. You never know, somebody needs to

663
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Speaker 3: step forward. You know, last year or a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago, they had Hoffman step forward. Maybe hot Lazaar's

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Speaker 3: like this version of Hoffman. I don't know this year's

666
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Speaker 3: version of Hoffman who knows well. Then you're then you're

667
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Speaker 3: hoping instead of getting a lockdown, which is not ideal.

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Speaker 4: But I do believe. I mean, I agree with you, Jim,

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Speaker 4: but they may not want to pray the pay the

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Speaker 4: price of what about like a guy like Duran?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about a secondary like a guy at the

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Speaker 1: next level down? I mean, I don't know what that

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Speaker 1: would be, say like a David Bednar or somebody who

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that same juice as Bautista and Duran, maybe

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Speaker 1: somebody like that.

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Speaker 4: Also.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dobrowski also left the door a jar on Monday

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Speaker 1: for like Able, you know, maybe even Painter. He said,

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Speaker 1: you never say never. We have had no discussions about it.

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Speaker 1: You never say never. He said that a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: But I left the door. So maybe they go on

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Speaker 1: that route and go get the big bat. I really

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Speaker 1: think that they need to go out and get a

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Speaker 1: big bat because I just feel like and not only

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Speaker 1: just for the take away the protection stuff for Harper,

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Speaker 1: like that would be great obviously, but I need to

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Speaker 1: feel like somebody other than Schwarber and Harper in a

688
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: big spot can hit the ball out of the ballpark

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Speaker 1: and it's just not happening with really anybody else in

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Speaker 1: that lineup. The number, the power numbers are way down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Castianos right now, if you look at his

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Speaker 1: numbers is like just above a league average hitter. And

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Speaker 1: you know, you know offensive hitter are performer, and you

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Speaker 1: know Boem same thing. You know, Turner's not hitting home runs,

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Speaker 1: which you don't really know.

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Speaker 3: They got no pop other than those two guys.

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Speaker 2: So they need both.

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Speaker 1: They need the arm and the bat exactly totally. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is that he can't get the Felix Bautista.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you get a next tier down guy. Maybe you go, Okay,

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00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Lizardo in the bullpen at some point,

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: we're getting Alvarado back. Maybe we'll put Abel in there.

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00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Maybe Max might be or he might think true, true, true.

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Speaker 5: I'd be surprised, given your needs and given his ceiling

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Speaker 5: that and it just seems like they would part with him.

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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if he's here.

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Speaker 4: I would think so too. I did talk to somebody

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00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 4: who's pretty prominent.

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00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: In the organization and they talked about Aiden Miller, and

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00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: the person said, he's the one guy I would not

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: move even above Painter.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I think he said is because

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Speaker 4: he's so young. What is he nineteen twenty one?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's I think he's twenty twenty. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: might be see.

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Speaker 4: Twenty or twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I think he's twenty one.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty one. He just turned twenty one.

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Speaker 4: He just turned twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's not that young, but it just

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00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: feels like he's got such a high ceiling that it

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00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: makes it really difficult to move him.

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Speaker 2: I don't want.

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Speaker 4: I personally would move him if it got me what

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00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 4: I needed. And I want to mention this to control.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Rubin, you mentioned the other day the idea of

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00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Schwarburn moving left field, and of course, you know, reading

728
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: some comments and no way, they can't do that. Again,

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Schwarburn left, no way, Schwarburn left Castianison right. Talking to

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Speaker 1: people last couple of days, people in the organization think

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00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: that that wouldn't be such a bad thing. That you know,

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Speaker 1: Schwarber is is a could be a better defender than

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Speaker 1: he was in twenty two. By the way, they went

734
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Speaker 1: to the World Series in twenty twenty two with Schwarburn

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Castiana's playing on the corners. I'm not saying it'd be

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: a great defensive outfield, but you know, you take adding

737
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: a bat like Suarez, does that make up for you

738
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna lose defensively in left field because

739
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you're not get much like tremendous defense in left field.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the game, you're gonna have Rojas

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00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 3: and center and Marsha left.

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, if they're winning the game, you can lose the

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: game prior to that. You can lose the game prior

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: to that with that outfield.

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Speaker 3: But that's what's gonna end up happening anyway late in

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00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: the game.

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00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: It's a real possibility. Shwarward left field is.

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Speaker 4: Especially if you get this, you gotta get right.

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00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 5: Well, that's how the only way would happen, and it's

751
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: a it's a real possibility.

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Phillies are not afraid of that idea. Let's

753
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: just say that, and.

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00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: Let me just say this.

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00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: I would what is a better scenario is to put

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00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: the first basement in the left field.

757
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: I think they do that mid stream.

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00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't think that they would.

759
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: But athletically, I actually, with all due respect to Kyle

760
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: schwarbur and he's you know, he'll do anything for the team,

761
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: I just feel athletically, you'll have more coverage, you'll have

762
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: a better athlete out there and left he's taking in

763
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: the first base in two seconds. I mean, he's been

764
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: great at first base after being a right fielder. He's

765
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: played center, he's played other positions. I mean, I just

766
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: feel like just overall. I don't think that they'll ask

767
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: him to do that, but for me looking at it

768
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: as a as a x GM and an ex coach

769
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 3: and someone who evaluates, it would be great to have.

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Speaker 4: The first baseman go to left field. Just say a

771
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 4: lot of fun.

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00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be a fun week. You know.

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00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Check your tweet notifications.

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00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's gonna be great.

775
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: Probably more fun ruben on, Like as you said the

776
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: other day, more fun on your side when you were

777
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: doing it, making the texts, sending the text making the calls.

778
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: Oh man, there's nothing like it.

779
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: It is the best because you get everybody together and

780
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: you're meeting.

781
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 4: You're talking.

782
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: You're talking kids, You're talking, you know, Latin American kids

783
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: way down there. You're talking about out all types of talent,

784
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: who you should move, You're talking about the future of

785
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: your franchise.

786
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: There's so many cool things to talk about.

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00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 5: Did you guys order off for hogies and stuff when

788
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 5: you're in the warm room.

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00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 4: Don't remember.

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00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I can say a nice charcuterie board.

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00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: Maybe you got Yeah, I didn't even know what a

792
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: charcoterie board was.

793
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: Back then, Back back where I'm from, they called a

794
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: vegetable tray. You know what I mean?

795
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: Shar board, you know what I mean. In Milwaukee they

796
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: called a vegetable tray.

797
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a vegetable right now.

798
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: Sure charcterie with the meat or.

799
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: Is that meat? That's meat?

800
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have some encased meat.

801
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in case, a little Oscar Mayer boloney on there,

802
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, a little bologny.

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00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, Ruben, Are you old

804
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: enough to remember the Oscar mar commercial?

805
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: What are you crazy? I can have questions and I'm

806
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: sixty years old.

807
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: I can still sing that.

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00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: Are you old enough? I go and the wiener and

809
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 4: the winer traveling across.

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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can sing it.

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00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: I know, I know. That's I know. Want to asking

812
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: my queen or yeah?

813
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: No, the kid that.

814
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

815
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: We're we're one hundred years old.

816
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, guys, we will be back.

817
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be back on Thursday. Thursday. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back layer this week, so check us out

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Speaker 1: later this week. We will be back with more hot Phillies.

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Speaker 4: Talk smell you, lated, Malady, Jim.

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