Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Once a
Speaker 2: week from Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality
Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking
Speaker 2: and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of
Speaker 2: Reality with the King.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've got Let me tell you all something, child.
Speaker 2: We have a legend, okay, an Olympian legend, honey, who
Speaker 2: decided to.
Speaker 1: Go on a show that is the one of the biggest.
Speaker 2: Shows on Bravo, The Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: I met her in person with her beautiful mom. Her
Speaker 2: mom is a fan of mine and was like, I
Speaker 2: want call your shows, Carlins and I was like, well, Honey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you on next, but first it's about
Speaker 2: your daughter. So please welcome to the podcast. Sign your
Speaker 2: bitchess frie Hey, Hey.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, de Carlos King, we in here. How are
Speaker 3: you doing.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, No, thanks for saying yes to
Speaker 2: the mess, honey, So how are you?
Speaker 1: I am good?
Speaker 3: I'm good, caroly in New York. You know the season
Speaker 3: has been crazy, so I know we're gonna get into it.
Speaker 3: But no, all good things. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Let's get into a.
Speaker 1: See there we go.
Speaker 2: So look, like I said earlier, you are an Olympian,
Speaker 2: you are a track star, legend, you are somebody that
Speaker 2: is in the history books, which is a lot to
Speaker 2: be said about your stature. So with all of that
Speaker 2: going on, I need to know this miss thing. When
Speaker 2: you got the call to request your presence of seeing
Speaker 2: if you wanted to be on the Housewives of Atlanta,
Speaker 2: what was.
Speaker 1: Your first thought? Did you think like yes? No, maybe,
Speaker 1: Like what did you go into it thinking once you
Speaker 1: got the phone call?
Speaker 4: So it was funny because when I got the call,
Speaker 4: at first, I didn't think it was real. I was like,
Speaker 4: how did you get my number? But Carlos, my first
Speaker 4: in thing was yes, Like I'm a yes.
Speaker 3: To life kind of girl.
Speaker 4: Yes, like I always feel like when opportunities find me,
Speaker 4: it is for a reason, and so my first instinct
Speaker 4: was yes, I had to work on my husband. But
Speaker 4: for me, it was a yes.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your husband. Honey.
Speaker 2: First of all, you one hundred percent have I would
Speaker 2: say top two of the finest husband's on Bravo.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, tied.
Speaker 4: With Carla because I didn't even remember clearly in the lead,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So who are we tying? Who was who was he
Speaker 3: vying with?
Speaker 2: Okay, in my opinion, it's a toss up between Ross
Speaker 2: and Eddie, doctor Wendy's husband, and he's.
Speaker 3: A post number two. He's a close number two.
Speaker 1: You know what I like about Ross?
Speaker 2: Ross reminds me of my African Ross is quiet, fine,
Speaker 2: like he ain't loud unless he gets provoked.
Speaker 1: He is a man's man.
Speaker 2: Can I can tell he he caters to you in
Speaker 2: a way that doesn't demean his manhood or masculinity. No,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I watch all that now. I've saw
Speaker 2: that a lot last season. Now missing this season, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Ross. What's going on? Boo, you and me both?
Speaker 4: So this is what this is what happens this season,
Speaker 4: and you'll see him later on in this season. But
Speaker 4: COVID really hit our car service hard in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: and twenty twenty one, and we weren't even sure if
Speaker 4: we're going to be able to make it in the
Speaker 4: Austin market in the chauffeur business, and so, you know,
Speaker 4: for a long time he was in the red, having
Speaker 4: a poor money into it. For so we kept thinking, Okay,
Speaker 4: what are we gonna do? Are we gonna you know,
Speaker 4: and we held onto it and it's rebounding now. So unfortunately,
Speaker 4: you know, and fortunately.
Speaker 3: It is a good thing.
Speaker 4: He had to go to Austin a lot, you know,
Speaker 4: because we lost a lot of drivers, like the businesses,
Speaker 4: had to really trim down to make it, and he's
Speaker 4: kind of building it back up now. So unfortunately he
Speaker 4: you know, the time we were filming was peak time
Speaker 4: for travel in Austin, and so he was there just
Speaker 4: managing the business.
Speaker 3: So I a'm od at.
Speaker 4: Him getting this coins, but I certainly did miss him
Speaker 4: at home a lot.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, me and the girls and the gays, we
Speaker 2: missed seeing Ross on television. And one of the things
Speaker 2: that I talked about last season when you first got
Speaker 2: on the show is your personal story reminding me a
Speaker 2: lot of Candy's personal story back in the day, when
Speaker 2: you talk about working with family and having a husband
Speaker 2: to where obviously you are the star of the relationship
Speaker 2: and you have been for so long, and how sometime
Speaker 2: that can do something.
Speaker 1: To a woman's marriage.
Speaker 2: And it really takes a confident man in order to
Speaker 2: say my wife is the star, the bread winner, and
Speaker 2: she has all these things going on. And I appreciated
Speaker 2: that level of transparency last season, and that's why this season,
Speaker 2: as we're talking about the show, it was the one
Speaker 2: thing that I felt like I want to see more
Speaker 2: of because I really felt like Ross came out of
Speaker 2: his shell last season, and I want to make sure
Speaker 2: that we're going to see more of that dynamic. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we see what your mom and your sister and you
Speaker 2: and your family, but Honey, we want to see you
Speaker 2: and Ross have those tough conversations.
Speaker 1: So are we going to see that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 4: And I also got to correct you on one thing, Carlos,
Speaker 4: because yes, I am a tha, but let's not get
Speaker 4: it twisted that my honey is a two time Super
Speaker 4: Bowl champ who was the breadwinner for the majority of
Speaker 4: our relationship. And so I just don't want that narrative
Speaker 4: saves ever switch, right, because just like you know, he
Speaker 4: started out making tons of money doing great things and
Speaker 4: still has lots of money in the bank, you know,
Speaker 4: that's why he's able to do what he wants to
Speaker 4: do and stuff. So I do think it takes a
Speaker 4: strong man to be with a woman who is like
Speaker 4: myself and like Candy and doing a lot of things
Speaker 4: and likes to be in front of the camera.
Speaker 3: Like my husband is fine playing in the back.
Speaker 4: Even when he was in football, you know, he wasn't
Speaker 4: always trying to be upfront. And so I do think
Speaker 4: it takes a strong man with a great personality, and
Speaker 4: I have that in my husband.
Speaker 3: But you know, he's a star, honey, He's a star.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Why was he apprehensive in you joining the show? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think it was more about you know, we all
Speaker 4: hear a lot about the reality show, you know, marriage Curse,
Speaker 4: and I think that was what he was more worried about.
Speaker 4: Is that for him and for me, marriage and family
Speaker 4: comes first, like period, and there is nothing that I
Speaker 4: would do that will ever jeopardize that, you know, And
Speaker 4: so he just didn't want for us to be in
Speaker 4: a situation that could potentially jeopardize our relationship.
Speaker 3: And I love him for that.
Speaker 4: You know, it was really that's it, you know, because
Speaker 4: you just don't know, Like you see like a lot
Speaker 4: of marriages that look.
Speaker 3: Great and then they just they don't make it.
Speaker 4: But the reality is, I do think that reality shows
Speaker 4: are a snapshot of real life. And the divorce rate
Speaker 4: is high in the world period. So it's not that
Speaker 4: reality TV is what breaks up marriages. I certainly think
Speaker 4: it puts a microscope on issues that are hard sometimes
Speaker 4: to navigate when the public is also having their opinions
Speaker 4: on it. But that was his ANNGS right. He was
Speaker 4: more like, I just don't want this to come between us.
Speaker 4: I don't want this to do anything for our family.
Speaker 4: If we can navigate it as a unit, boom, but
Speaker 4: if not, Like he wasn't going to be down for that,
Speaker 4: and I love that about him.
Speaker 2: Were you too afraid of joining the show having an
Speaker 2: affecting your legacy in the in the in the sports arena?
Speaker 4: Not really, because the truth is, Carlos, is that there
Speaker 4: is no blueprint for an Olympic champion, Like can you
Speaker 4: name an Olympic champion and what they're doing now you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And so it's not it's all
Speaker 4: of us are kind of charting our own path. And
Speaker 4: for me, I was like this is a dope opportunity
Speaker 4: for me to stay relevant, to continue to grow my brand,
Speaker 4: to be around some dope women.
Speaker 3: And so no, I think that is just an extension
Speaker 3: of my legacy.
Speaker 4: Like nothing can erase what I did on the track period,
Speaker 4: you know, and so this is just me trying something else,
Speaker 4: seeing how it works, and you know, going through a
Speaker 4: new process. So no, I never looked at it that way,
Speaker 4: although I have heard people say like, are you.
Speaker 3: A friend, Like no, Like, I'm the American record hold
Speaker 3: a four time of lipic Medalist's baby, that's that's gonna
Speaker 3: be that.
Speaker 2: Did you hear from your friends in your in your
Speaker 2: class of sport who said, like.
Speaker 1: Girl, are you sure you want to do this? Or what?
Speaker 1: They're all support of.
Speaker 4: The majority of my girlfriends were super supportive, you know,
Speaker 4: they were excited for me. Like I said, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, you think about the life of an athlete,
Speaker 4: Carlos and most athletes focus solely on sports their entire life,
Speaker 4: and then it's like afterwards, you're like, Okay, what do
Speaker 4: I do now?
Speaker 3: How do I use the skill sets.
Speaker 4: That I've learned and that I've sharpened as an athlete
Speaker 4: in the rest of the world. And so for me,
Speaker 4: I've been very, very blessed to have this very seamless
Speaker 4: transition from track and field to broadcasting and not reality
Speaker 4: TV and still working with Nike and all these things.
Speaker 4: So I feel very blessed, and I feel like a
Speaker 4: lot of my peers really respect.
Speaker 3: That hustle, like dang, like she's still doing it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: And congress on the Belk deal as well. Thank you,
Speaker 1: cause that's huge. That's really big. Yeah, thank you, that's
Speaker 1: really big.
Speaker 2: Also big, honey is the drama this season, we are
Speaker 2: seeing the girls go low sis. I mean, I call
Speaker 2: it how Marlow can you go? Like?
Speaker 1: How low can you go? Child? Now Marlow girl? How Marlow?
Speaker 3: I think what you did there? I'll see what you
Speaker 3: did there?
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 3: Love?
Speaker 1: Get you got? Okay?
Speaker 2: So you seem to be caught in the middle because,
Speaker 2: as we saw in the earlier episodes, Courtney was saying
Speaker 2: some not so flattering things about Candy in the presence
Speaker 2: of you and Chara, and you told Candy what was said,
Speaker 2: and I found it interesting.
Speaker 1: That she was like, well, what you said?
Speaker 2: If you have my back, because and I want to
Speaker 2: get your opinion because for me, obviously.
Speaker 1: I produced a show.
Speaker 2: For almost ten years of my life, right, and I've
Speaker 2: known moments where Fedra felt that way about Candy, like
Speaker 2: you didn't have my back or what did you say
Speaker 2: to defend me against these girls? So I was kind
Speaker 2: of called off guard by that because I didn't again
Speaker 2: my okay, because my opinion is, I don't feel like
Speaker 2: unless I'm missing something, I don't feel like you and
Speaker 2: Candy's relationship it's that deep to where your first instinct.
Speaker 1: Would be to defend her.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just listening to a conversation where you
Speaker 2: also surprised it's like me the audience was that she
Speaker 2: was upset by it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised that she asked me that because
Speaker 4: the tone of the conversation up until that point was
Speaker 4: very much friendly. And then she just kind of switched
Speaker 4: and was like, but what were you saying while you
Speaker 4: know she was talking? And it kind of threw me
Speaker 4: off guard, and I was like, what did I say?
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to remember and recall because, to be honest, Carlos,
Speaker 4: initially I was just shocked. Right, I'm sitting there like
Speaker 4: it's my first time meeting this girl. I'm like, what
Speaker 4: was a lot to tea? You're like, okay, you know,
Speaker 4: I was really shocked by it. And then of course
Speaker 4: the way she's saying it, it was funny, like anybody
Speaker 4: would have laughed when she said.
Speaker 3: And girl that ghetto. I was like, so, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I did, on multiple occasions
Speaker 4: in the conversation say look, me and Candy cool, now,
Speaker 4: are you gonna talk to her? Because if you don't,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell her I do say that to her
Speaker 4: in real time, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: was a little bit surprised that Candy was like, what
Speaker 4: were you saying and stuff, because obviously, like you know,
Speaker 4: these are all fairly new friendships that I'm building and
Speaker 4: creating and really trying to figure out, you know, which
Speaker 4: ones are going to be the meaningful ones, which was
Speaker 4: all going to be the last thing relationships, you know.
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't think she took it, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, too heavy. I think she just asked and
Speaker 4: we kind of moved on from it. But I was
Speaker 4: a little bit surprised that she expected me to be like,
Speaker 4: now what what what.
Speaker 3: Shocked?
Speaker 1: As you were Oh, no, girl, we were gagging. Again.
Speaker 2: If that was Manyeta, I would have understood more. So
Speaker 2: I was surprised about that line of questioning because from
Speaker 2: what I've seen, and you tell me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: it appears that you're closer to Charae and Marlow, I'm.
Speaker 3: Closer to Marlow.
Speaker 4: And to be honest, like it's funny because at that
Speaker 4: point I was closer to Candy and Marlow. So like
Speaker 4: Candy and I had gone on vacation, we communicate a
Speaker 4: lot off camera, and of course Marlow, Marlow and I
Speaker 4: are the closest, especially now like off off season this
Speaker 4: season we talk like every day, so I was actually
Speaker 4: closer to Marlow. Candy and then Chari like Sharan are
Speaker 4: super cool. We don't talk as much, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: like once a week, once every two weeks.
Speaker 3: Her and I connect, So Canny and I work fairly close.
Speaker 4: But the other thing, too, Carlos, was that I didn't
Speaker 4: feel like it was an attack on her, on her character,
Speaker 4: like if you as you watched the season progress, like.
Speaker 3: Even last night with Marlowe, I don't.
Speaker 4: Like when they started calling her trick and stuff like
Speaker 4: to me, that's that's a personal affront.
Speaker 3: But when you're talking about, like, you know, these people.
Speaker 4: To me, that wasn't something where I'd be like, well, damn, Like,
Speaker 4: why would you say this about Candy?
Speaker 3: It wasn't that deep to me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But what's getting deep is the lonelness to me
Speaker 2: of the dialogue between them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest things that the audience is having
Speaker 2: a very hard time understanding. And I even called Marlowe
Speaker 2: personally to talk to her about this because I do
Speaker 2: love her, is the fact that what happened three years
Speaker 2: ago with her nephew. Of course, it's horrendous and it's sad,
Speaker 2: and she and the entire family have all of our
Speaker 2: complete condolencence with that, but it is sort of.
Speaker 1: It is sort of.
Speaker 2: I'll just use the word weird that three years later
Speaker 2: is being brought up. And I understand she's saying, well,
Speaker 2: the shootings that happen at the restaurant triggered it, So
Speaker 2: I get that, But to the degree of it being
Speaker 2: so volatile.
Speaker 1: Obviously you talk to marlow daily.
Speaker 2: Are you on Marlow's side when it comes to where
Speaker 2: her and Candy are going through?
Speaker 1: And can you.
Speaker 2: Shed some light that we may not know because I
Speaker 2: know Marlow for real, for real, and I'm confused.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I get it, And I think that it's tricky,
Speaker 4: right because you can't tell someone how to feel.
Speaker 3: And even for me when I was when I communicate with.
Speaker 4: Marl and stuff, and I'm like, dang, like it's a
Speaker 4: tricky thing to navigate because somebody died, right like her
Speaker 4: nephew died, So there's the gravity of that, and then
Speaker 4: there is this feeling where she just feels like, you know,
Speaker 4: Candy sometimes just kind of brushes.
Speaker 3: Past issues, you know, big and small.
Speaker 4: And so, you know, do I always agree with how
Speaker 4: Marlow goes at things now, but do I try to
Speaker 4: validate her feelings? Yes, And so in the fact that
Speaker 4: she felt like Candy never really acknowledged it or showed
Speaker 4: up in the way.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 4: The other thing that people have to understand too, is
Speaker 4: like a lot of times people value friendship the way
Speaker 4: that they are friends, and Marlow is one of the
Speaker 4: most thoughtful. She's one of the kindest people I know.
Speaker 4: Like last season when I had COVID, she sent me
Speaker 4: flowers at Teddy Bear, she sent me medicine.
Speaker 3: She called me every day, and that's her love language and.
Speaker 4: So you know, she I think, just expects people to
Speaker 4: reciprocate that, and like what I understand from Candy when
Speaker 4: I was talking to Candy as well as like, she's
Speaker 4: not that girl, and I'm not all the way a
Speaker 4: thoughtful person like that either, Like marlow is teaching me
Speaker 4: how to be more thoughtful of people, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: So I definitely see both sides.
Speaker 4: I understand how Candy could feel like the timing is
Speaker 4: so bad. It's like, you know, once again trying to
Speaker 4: like you know, make put her business in a bad light.
Speaker 4: So I understood why Candy.
Speaker 3: Got so upset. But I think, and I think this
Speaker 3: happens a lot with the ladies.
Speaker 4: If we can stay on just the topic, just the issue,
Speaker 4: we can handle it right, Because it's like if Candy's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: my bad, I could I could have done more, we
Speaker 4: could move on. But then it becomes this big thing
Speaker 4: and they're both so heavily vested, and it becomes really
Speaker 4: tricky as a group to navigate.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me now, I'm starting to understand,
Speaker 2: because you're right, Marlowe, feels like what I give out
Speaker 2: I should be able to get in return, and to
Speaker 2: your point.
Speaker 1: Not everyone is wired that way.
Speaker 2: And I will say this on the record, Marlowe is
Speaker 2: very generous. She is very giving, She is very thoughtful.
Speaker 2: Marlowe loves to give a gift, child, and I love
Speaker 2: taking them.
Speaker 1: So I do.
Speaker 2: I do know that about her, And now I'm starting
Speaker 2: to understand a little bit more about what she was
Speaker 2: expecting is because she feels like I will do that
Speaker 2: in a situation. So, okay, I understand that much. Do
Speaker 2: you understand Manyetta? Though her presence on the show.
Speaker 4: Carlos almost Carlos not you passing? Now?
Speaker 2: I thought you weren't tracks y'all who could run miles
Speaker 2: and breathe? Child?
Speaker 3: You know what I've been telling folks. I haven't trained
Speaker 3: for poor Olympics.
Speaker 4: I have been all of Nothing has prepared me for
Speaker 4: the real house sives of Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Do you understand nothing? Nothing has prepared me for this? Okay?
Speaker 3: Do I understand man Yetta's presence on the show? Yes,
Speaker 3: of course I do. Of course I do.
Speaker 1: What do you think? What is it? Tella's enlighten up?
Speaker 1: Because we're not there every day.
Speaker 2: My love.
Speaker 3: There are other people in.
Speaker 4: This room, cross and they've also fallen out everybody's on
Speaker 4: the floor.
Speaker 3: My la thought everybody's on the floor, just so you know.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, quarter minds want to know, honey, this is
Speaker 5: reality with the King, and I want to know the
Speaker 5: reality of when y'all together. You cannot believe that you're
Speaker 5: asking these quest, Carlos, I would love for you to
Speaker 5: answer one.
Speaker 3: So, okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: I think Mayetta, like you said, she is like a wonderful,
Speaker 4: wonderful person. I think that she is one of the
Speaker 4: best human beings I've ever met. However, I think that
Speaker 4: it has been tricky for her to navigate the show,
Speaker 4: and to navigate, you know, because she loves her and
Speaker 4: Candy's relationship is so significant to her and important to
Speaker 4: her that I feel like she sometimes isn't able to
Speaker 4: step out of that and just be on her own.
Speaker 3: And it's hard. This this show is so hard.
Speaker 4: Maybe have so many comments about it, but if you
Speaker 4: were in the same situation, trust me, it's not as
Speaker 4: easy as it appears when you are watching.
Speaker 3: It on TV.
Speaker 4: And so, you know, I do think that Mayette is
Speaker 4: tricky for Mayette because she has such an alliance and
Speaker 4: allegiance with Candy that and you saw it when she
Speaker 4: was like I almost lost my friend. It's like why,
Speaker 4: like just for like you know, sitting with Marlow for
Speaker 4: two seconds like that. That doesn't make any sense, Like
Speaker 4: you got to you got to be out here on
Speaker 4: your own sis.
Speaker 3: So I love Mayeta Todath.
Speaker 4: I think that this season she brings a lot more
Speaker 4: to the show. She brings a lot more to the
Speaker 4: show this season. But we'll see, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Do you think she's in Candy Shadow?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think she's in Candy Shadow. I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that I think that her personality type makes
Speaker 4: it hard for her to break out of Candy Shadow,
Speaker 4: because she's such a loyal friend and she's such a
Speaker 4: sweet girl. So yes, I do think that, and I
Speaker 4: don't think I think that she would agree. I don't
Speaker 4: think that's an insult. I think that she came on
Speaker 4: as Candy's friend and she's really been loyal to her.
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Speaker 2: with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back
Speaker 2: into the show. What are your thoughts on Ralph and Drew.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you and Drew have had your moments,
Speaker 2: which by the way, was funny, but when you think
Speaker 2: about what she's going through and one thing, listen, one
Speaker 2: thing I know about everybody on the Atlanta Housewives and
Speaker 2: a lot of reality TV, everybody can throw shade and
Speaker 2: do whatever, but no, there's not one person who takes
Speaker 2: pleasure in seeing the breakup of a marriage. And that's
Speaker 2: one thing I know for sure. Yes, I absolutely there's
Speaker 2: never been any gleeful moments of somebody's marriage breaking up
Speaker 2: When you learn of the divorce. And again we're only
Speaker 2: in episode six right now this season, right did you
Speaker 2: see signs that pointed in this direction?
Speaker 4: So it caught me completely off guard, Carlos, because to
Speaker 4: give you some context, like I'm not the best on
Speaker 4: dates and times and stuff, but I would say probably
Speaker 4: about two weeks prior to the announcement of the divorce,
Speaker 4: Ross and I were at Ralph's fortieth that drew through
Speaker 4: for him, and they looked super happy. I mean, it
Speaker 4: was like it was a vibe, like we were having
Speaker 4: so much fun. They were dancing together, they played her songs,
Speaker 4: she gave him a whole moment in the club, and
Speaker 4: so so I know marriage is tough, and I know
Speaker 4: sometimes we got to put on even when things are
Speaker 4: not perfect. But I would have never anticipated that a
Speaker 4: week or two later they'd be both rushing to the
Speaker 4: courthouse to like outsign each other.
Speaker 2: They were watching they were watching YouTube videos of you
Speaker 2: sprinting and followed suit and ran.
Speaker 1: To the courthouse as.
Speaker 2: If but Tom was waiting on them at the end.
Speaker 1: Honey, I was like, but it.
Speaker 4: Didn't really surprise me because everything with Ralph and she
Speaker 4: was always a little bit Quirky says that this is this,
Speaker 4: this sounds about right right, like them rushing to the courthouse,
Speaker 4: so just about right. But like you said, I honestly,
Speaker 4: I'm really heartbroken, mainly for the kids because there were
Speaker 4: three beautiful kids, and I when I met them prior
Speaker 4: to the show two or three before we started filming,
Speaker 4: I just thought they were a great couple. I thought
Speaker 4: they have a lot of fun together. So it just
Speaker 4: it's just sad that they're not. You know, haven't been
Speaker 4: able to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to her recently?
Speaker 3: So I text her.
Speaker 4: I had been texting her like consistently, like you know,
Speaker 4: just checking in on her, and and then she like
Speaker 4: made a tweet the other.
Speaker 2: Day and I'm like about you, and I'm like, girl.
Speaker 3: Man, you are good, Like why are you tweeting?
Speaker 4: It's like Drew Sometimes I feel like Drew thinks like
Speaker 4: she's supposed to be like wherever the show is, that's
Speaker 4: where it's just a mess.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't.
Speaker 4: Deal with that, Like I want to be real in
Speaker 4: the moment, like reality reality. So after that, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: let me just give her some more space again because
Speaker 4: she's just on one again.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people have accused Drew of acting
Speaker 2: a lot on this show and getting the set confused
Speaker 2: with a Lifetime movie set starring Carrie Hillson and directed
Speaker 2: by T. D.
Speaker 1: Jakes.
Speaker 2: So do you feel that when you're in scene with
Speaker 2: Drew do you sometimes feel like are you reading a
Speaker 2: script or are you being yourself?
Speaker 3: One? Like it is?
Speaker 4: That has been one of the hardest things to navigate
Speaker 4: and my biggest frustration, especially coming on as her friend.
Speaker 3: You know, it was it was.
Speaker 4: Really hard because but you know what's funny, Carlos and
Speaker 4: I ain't never told nobody this, but I'm gonna just
Speaker 4: drop your little tea right here. When I when I
Speaker 4: first met them, right when I first met Ralph and Drew,
Speaker 4: he one of the things he said was He's like.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll be cool.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden the mood scene, she
Speaker 4: just like flips the script like she'll just like go
Speaker 4: like do something crazy.
Speaker 1: About his own wife.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it shouldn't have surprised me that she
Speaker 4: did that to me in season one and that she
Speaker 4: continues to do that. I just I but here's the
Speaker 4: thing about it, and this is gonna be crazy. Is
Speaker 4: that I don't feel like she knows that she's doing it.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like she understands like when she goes
Speaker 4: into this actress mode, I really don't and I think that,
Speaker 4: but but she does it a lot, and it's it's
Speaker 4: really tricky to be around her because literally we'll be texting,
Speaker 4: we'll be cool, and we'll talk off camera, and then
Speaker 4: she comes on camera and she has a whole different
Speaker 4: vibe and it's like, girl, like I don't like it,
Speaker 4: Like I'd prefer to like know, like we're not cool
Speaker 4: or we're cool, but don't like flip the script on
Speaker 4: me on screen, and you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: I'm not acting. So it's it's really hard for me
Speaker 4: to be able to figure out how to move with
Speaker 4: her in that case.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, No, I love you, Drew.
Speaker 2: Just note that they don't give about oscars for the
Speaker 2: real Housebots of Atlanta, Baby, so we can stop auditioning
Speaker 2: for an oscar, leave that for a movie directed by
Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese because these scenes are directed.
Speaker 1: By Eric Fuller. Okay, exactly, I love you, Okay.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest conversations about this season is a
Speaker 2: lot of people are saying the cast feels disjointed, that
Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be this cohesive sisterhood that Conda
Speaker 2: was apparent last season.
Speaker 1: And what did you contribute that to?
Speaker 2: Because again, I've worked on the show, and I've known
Speaker 2: that relationship goes through up and down.
Speaker 1: We've seen it with Kim and Nini, Minia and Charie, We've.
Speaker 2: Seen it with Kenya, Porscha, Cynthia King, Like, we've seen
Speaker 2: these up and downs, but the girls always found their
Speaker 2: way back.
Speaker 1: Why is it in your feelings?
Speaker 2: Obviously is your second season, but why it seems to
Speaker 2: be this jointed so much to the point where everyone
Speaker 2: is confused by where this friendship can go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's so unfortunately to me, Carlos, because I
Speaker 4: felt that this season we were building on this sisterhood
Speaker 4: and friendship and I thought it would you know, radiate
Speaker 4: through the screens this year if you would see that
Speaker 4: we were, you know, actually really trying to be great
Speaker 4: friends and stuff. So it's disappointing that the opposite is happening.
Speaker 3: But I think I think ultimately where.
Speaker 4: The break happens is when Marlowe and Kenya, which obviously
Speaker 4: that's been a few that's been predates me and has
Speaker 4: been going on for a long time.
Speaker 3: I think it's okay when they're like.
Speaker 4: Two girls that are not not really getting along. But
Speaker 4: I think the issue really happens when marlow and Candy
Speaker 4: start to feud, and then because Kenya and Marlowe you know,
Speaker 4: are you know, you know, Nemesis, It then really devised
Speaker 4: the group because I think that Candy when Cay like
Speaker 4: and one thing I really do respect about Candy is
Speaker 4: that she's very level headed and even after the worst feud,
Speaker 4: she kind of always finds her way back to like,
Speaker 4: you know, a cordial place, like a place where we
Speaker 4: can all coexist.
Speaker 3: And so I think what happens this season.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, is that with marlow and Candy feuding so much,
Speaker 4: and of course Kenya and Marlowe, it makes it really
Speaker 4: hard for our group, our group to be cohesive because
Speaker 4: you know, those are two big players in the group,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So unfortunately, I think that
Speaker 4: causes the divide. But but there is hope, Like I
Speaker 4: think that as you continue to watch this season, especially
Speaker 4: when going our group trip to Portugal, there is some mending,
Speaker 4: you know, and and we do, we do go on
Speaker 4: some really cool journeys, and I think we have some
Speaker 4: really beautiful moments, but it is hard when you have
Speaker 4: so many women with big personalities who do have real
Speaker 4: feelings of their issues. I think, you know, it makes
Speaker 4: it really hard to push past some of those things.
Speaker 4: But you know, we do try and think that. I
Speaker 4: think that people will be happy as a season progresses.
Speaker 2: Okay, when you joined the show, is it everything that
Speaker 2: you imagine it would be or are you completely caught
Speaker 2: off guard?
Speaker 4: I don't know what I imagined it would be, but
Speaker 4: not out of ten times I'm completely caught off.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes I want this up. Times that you like,
Speaker 1: what do I get myself to?
Speaker 4: But you know what, it's funny, it's like, but not
Speaker 4: ten times I'm having a lot of fun too.
Speaker 3: Like, So here here's the.
Speaker 4: Thing that people need to know about me, because I
Speaker 4: know people write all kinds of stuff about me, and
Speaker 4: stuff is like I am old, Like I am okay
Speaker 4: with trying and failing.
Speaker 3: I am okay with like you know, it's like none
Speaker 3: of those things bother me.
Speaker 4: Like I chase my dreams college for twenty years to
Speaker 4: the Olympic champion and in two thousand and eight I
Speaker 4: failed on the largest scale, there's nothing that can ever
Speaker 4: rattle me, you know what I mean. Like after that,
Speaker 4: I came back and I won in twenty twelve. So
Speaker 4: it's like I'm navigating a new space. I'm figuring out
Speaker 4: how to show fully authentically as myself, trying to figure
Speaker 4: out who I'm gonna be, my ride or dies, like
Speaker 4: all of these things like comes with pitfalls in real life,
Speaker 4: much less on camera, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: it's like I think I'm someone who's self deprecating. I
Speaker 4: don't take myself too seriously. I'm not like trying to
Speaker 4: be perfect.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like it is what it is, and as people
Speaker 4: get to know me, you know, my hope is I'm
Speaker 4: in for the long haul and people will see over
Speaker 4: time who I am and that, you know, the little
Speaker 4: things and the little pitfalls and a little moments, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't harp on them too much. I keep
Speaker 4: it moving and I'm genuinely trying to build real friendships
Speaker 4: and I really want this show to go back to
Speaker 4: what it really was, which was a group of women
Speaker 4: who really care about each other, who are bonded on
Speaker 4: issues and you know, we're connected because we have commonalities,
Speaker 4: but obviously it's not going to be perfect because life isn't.
Speaker 4: And you know that's that's really what I hope for
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: No, I do too, And I love the fact that
Speaker 2: you don't take things too seriously and you're you're aware
Speaker 2: that girl. One thing about the Real Housewives of Atlanta fans,
Speaker 2: Those fans are tough.
Speaker 4: What they like worse than sports.
Speaker 2: Fans, Oh girls, forget look forget the basketball, baseball, football,
Speaker 2: all of that. The Real Housewives of Atlanta, of all
Speaker 2: the franchises Atlanta, those fans have very strong opinions. When
Speaker 2: you hear people say things about you, they call you boring?
Speaker 1: Why is she on the show?
Speaker 2: Does that hurt your feelings when you when you hear
Speaker 2: people say you're boring?
Speaker 4: Well, not really, because what I have seen is that
Speaker 4: a lot of times the fans really don't know what
Speaker 4: they want, you know what I mean. On the one hand,
Speaker 4: they will say we want positive women who have real relationships,
Speaker 4: who have businesses and stuff, and then you get that
Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, she's boring, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And it's like the fans can also be really fickle.
Speaker 4: One week they love this person, next week they love
Speaker 4: that person, and so I kind of take it with
Speaker 4: a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I've seen over the years where people complain about a
Speaker 4: person then they're gone and they want them back more
Speaker 4: than anything, and you know, it's like just this constant,
Speaker 4: you know, desire to have what isn't there. And so
Speaker 4: for me, I just kind of learned from sports to
Speaker 4: quiet the noise, like, you know, focus on the fact
Speaker 4: that I'm blessed to be on this platform and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna keep being me and whether you know, I thank
Speaker 4: god the fans don't cast.
Speaker 3: And you know, just keep it pushing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this will be my advice to you.
Speaker 2: I got one more question for you, but as somebody
Speaker 2: who produced that show from seasons one through four and
Speaker 2: then six through nine, I want to give you some
Speaker 2: advice if you if you if you want it.
Speaker 3: Honey, Okay.
Speaker 2: So look, I said this about you last season that
Speaker 2: I did feel like your personal story was super strong
Speaker 2: because it reminded me of the early days of Candy,
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, in the sense of working with
Speaker 2: your husband and the family and your your mom is
Speaker 2: fan fantastic television, and it reminded me of like the
Speaker 2: great Mama Joys and getting I'll say this, I felt
Speaker 2: like you were bringing the old school Atlanta Housewives personal
Speaker 2: story back to the show in terms of what it
Speaker 2: looks like for a family dynamic because of some listen,
Speaker 2: no shade, but some of these women are older and
Speaker 2: they don't have a robust family with young kids. So
Speaker 2: for us to see that from you, I felt was
Speaker 2: super strong. And I what I would want more from you,
Speaker 2: if I can say this to you, is I want
Speaker 2: to see more of that. I listen, my opinion, I
Speaker 2: could care less about your relationship with the girls to
Speaker 2: a degree, I really am invested in you and Ross
Speaker 2: and what you guys are talking about and what you
Speaker 2: have going on. I really want to see more with
Speaker 2: you and your mom, and I want to see your
Speaker 2: mom around the girls more. When I met your mom
Speaker 2: in person, first of all, your mom.
Speaker 1: Is a baddie.
Speaker 2: And I feel like the beauty of Atlanta housewise was
Speaker 2: there was always that specialness when it came to the moms.
Speaker 2: And because we haven't seen Mama Joyce in a while,
Speaker 2: who's an icon and a legend herself, I would love
Speaker 2: to see your mom more and I would love to
Speaker 2: see more of what you and Ross are talking about,
Speaker 2: because I feel like when you have these marital relationships,
Speaker 2: that's what we want to see. And I feel like
Speaker 2: you're getting your footwear, and when I'm.
Speaker 1: Watching you, I feel like.
Speaker 2: I feel like you'd be thinking, like what is going
Speaker 2: on here? Like is this really happening? Or like when
Speaker 2: Kenya stormed out to her room child in Alabama and
Speaker 2: on the speakerphone, she said, y'all can go, and you said.
Speaker 1: I will leave. I don't have to be here.
Speaker 2: So I do feel like sometimes you're like, are y'all
Speaker 2: putting on? Or what is really happening here? Because I
Speaker 2: don't navigate this way, So I would just say, you know,
Speaker 2: let's see more because I feel like you're trying to
Speaker 2: figure these girls out. And I get it because there
Speaker 2: are fifteen seasons and I feel like girl focused on
Speaker 2: showing us the personal story because I do feel like
Speaker 2: I want to see more personal story.
Speaker 3: I love that and I mean that we can deliver on.
Speaker 4: So thank you for that note, and I'll, you know,
Speaker 4: definitely want to incorporate more and hopefully next season, you know,
Speaker 4: Ross will be more put you know, staying in the
Speaker 4: house more and so we can do more of that,
Speaker 4: So I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Okay, question.
Speaker 2: If you had a magic wand yes, and you're looking
Speaker 2: at this show for next season, and if someone came
Speaker 2: to you a Genie in a bottle, not Christina Aguileras
Speaker 2: Genie in the bottle, because that was about some nest child,
Speaker 2: a real genie in a bottle.
Speaker 1: And they said, Okay.
Speaker 2: Sonya, you're able to cast the women around you who
Speaker 2: you want to move forward with. Who are five women
Speaker 2: that you would love to be on a season with?
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's a that's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 3: So obviously I bring back my girl Marlowe. So Marlowe
Speaker 3: and Chara.
Speaker 4: So five though, because that makes it shouldn't it be six?
Speaker 1: Well you're six, it's you plus five.
Speaker 3: Okay, So me, marlow Chare uh huh oh man.
Speaker 2: Any House White, past, present, future.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, I'm like, I've been on with Candy
Speaker 4: and Kenya, so I feel like I've you know, experienced them.
Speaker 3: So do I bring them back or do I bring
Speaker 3: on somebody new?
Speaker 4: So I always thought Phaedra was a wots so I think,
Speaker 4: you know, it'd be cool to film with Phaedra. Even
Speaker 4: though I know Candy and Phaedra won't film, so that
Speaker 4: means I have to leave Candy off for next time.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring her back.
Speaker 1: I bring her back for season twenty okay.
Speaker 3: And and Porsche.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, that's a good list.
Speaker 1: That's a good list. Is that so? Yeah? So it's
Speaker 1: yeah you so you plus five?
Speaker 2: So that's Marlowe, Charae, Phaedra, I get one more more.
Speaker 3: So I would bring back Dangs.
Speaker 4: So who else is somebody that's from the past that
Speaker 4: I would love to film with?
Speaker 2: Because you have have Deshaun Snow, Lisa will Niani, Leeks, Kim,
Speaker 2: Zoe Ziak, Claudia Jordan Shamari, the Claudia Claudia Claudia.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. See that wasn't so bad.
Speaker 3: I wasn't one last question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. I know you're busy. Do
Speaker 1: you know who Tamra Judge is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's one of the housewives.
Speaker 2: Right of Orange County. Yes, she did an interview recently
Speaker 2: and they asked her which housewife shod be put on
Speaker 2: Pauls And she said, you why why?
Speaker 1: She hadn't know me?
Speaker 2: She said, as she's watching this show she thinks you're
Speaker 2: a nice girl, but she had to choose anybody she
Speaker 2: would choose to put you on pause?
Speaker 3: Is she still is she still on the show?
Speaker 1: She was on Pauls but now she's bad.
Speaker 3: Uh, well she she should go like a pause, tune in.
Speaker 3: People don't know what they won't. People don't know what
Speaker 3: they won't.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you're saying that includes housewives saw.
Speaker 3: The dynamic to the show, that it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, well sonya, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming on Reality with the King, and I
Speaker 2: am going to continue watching the show, and I want
Speaker 2: you to follow my bodies. We want to see you
Speaker 2: and Ross mamm We want to see and listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I know it's not your control what's get shown, so
Speaker 2: trust me, I get that, but I speak for the
Speaker 2: congregation and just know that that's our biggest request. We
Speaker 2: want to see more of that.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I appreciate that. Thanks for having me, Carlos,
Speaker 4: was a pleasure.
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