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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Car Stories.

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Speaker 2: With Sun King and Amelia Hartford, and.

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Speaker 1: Today we are talking with His name is Hurt.

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Speaker 2: I asked about his last name. He said, I go

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Speaker 2: by just Hurt.

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Speaker 1: He's a good friend of ours and we get to

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Speaker 1: talk about his history, his love for drifting, and his

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Speaker 1: association with Hunigan and all things FC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and recently being a host on the new Hot

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Speaker 2: Wheels NBC show. It's been so cool to see his

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Speaker 2: career flourish, just someone who's really passionate about cars in

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Speaker 2: the motorsports world, and to see where he is today.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really cool and inspiring story that

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Speaker 2: people are about to hear.

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Speaker 3: So without further ado, the man, the myth, the legend, Hurt,

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to see your career and everything.

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Speaker 2: You're just killing it. Dad.

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Speaker 4: I could say the exact same about you. It's crazy

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Speaker 4: how far we've come, Yeah, in this space, just basically

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Speaker 4: doing what we love, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just a couple of kids who liked tinkering

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Speaker 2: and driving cars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, drifting is a is a very interesting thing because

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Speaker 4: when I started doing this in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 4: or whatever, I mean, there was no Instagram, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: might have still been using MySpace. Like social media wasn't

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Speaker 4: even Facebook at the very least Facebook. But social media

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Speaker 4: wasn't even on the scope. You know, we were doing

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Speaker 4: things because we love them. I never imagined what the

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Speaker 4: space would turn into with the amount of reach you

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Speaker 4: can gain from just doing what you love and any

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Speaker 4: any aspect, not just drifting. You could be a cook,

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Speaker 4: you could you could be a car detailer or whatever.

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Speaker 4: There's like the ability to make a career because of

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Speaker 4: the tools like social media is actually insane.

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Speaker 2: And also be able to share that like freedom of

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Speaker 2: expression too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone has a voice. Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: So you said you started in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you start in Florida? You're from Florida?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, born and raised Orlando, Florida. I mean I

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Speaker 4: started immediately once I got my first car when I

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Speaker 4: was sixteen. It was a two thousand and four Honda Accord.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to my mom. She she got it for

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Speaker 4: me as a as a gift, still in high school.

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Speaker 5: And I immediately ruined that car.

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Speaker 2: Trying to drift the front wheel drive.

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Speaker 4: Well, just you know, I went to home depot, got

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Speaker 4: some dryer ducting, made an intake, you know, had no

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Speaker 4: idea about how maths work or anything like that, so

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Speaker 4: the idle air was all messed up and just you know,

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Speaker 4: fart can all the good stuff, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it just like a crappy exhaust.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a four cylinder automatic Honda Accord with

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Speaker 4: an exhaust, so it just sounds like it's farting, you know,

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Speaker 4: everywhere you go.

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Speaker 1: But you can't drift that car because so you weren't

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Speaker 1: drifting down.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even drifting wasn't even on the scope. Drifting

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Speaker 4: is an interesting thing because like, obviously I had seen

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Speaker 4: Initial d Obviously I'd played like Need for Speed Underground too,

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Speaker 4: and I loved drifting in those games, but it never

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Speaker 4: occurred to me that that was something you can do

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Speaker 4: in real life, you know. So it's funny how it

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Speaker 4: all came together, because because I loved playing those games,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to do this

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Speaker 5: That wasn't in my in my thought process. I just

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Speaker 2: You know, what was your first experience seeing drifting then,

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Speaker 2: because that had to have been kind of like a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, I can tell you my my

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Speaker 4: my true experience.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I had that Civic hatchback, I got rear ended,

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Speaker 4: I got the insurance insurance check. And the day that

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Speaker 4: I got the insurance check, my friend was taking me

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Speaker 4: home from work and there's a used car dealership that

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm that's the car, you know. So

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Speaker 4: I had the insurance check, cashed it, went and bought that.

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Speaker 2: You what that was at the time, right, it's an

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's that's another interesting thing, right is is

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Speaker 4: I watched you know, initial D I played games, but again,

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Speaker 4: I just didn't really correlate real life with you know,

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Speaker 4: these shows and these things, right. I mean when I

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Speaker 4: but I didn't put it together that that was an

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Speaker 4: just such a like it was so separated, so so

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Speaker 4: more real. I I get this R seven and I

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Speaker 4: go to an R seven meet in Florida, in Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So this is all Orlando, Florida. I go to a

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Speaker 4: Dino day. I meet a new friend, Chris. He has

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Speaker 4: an R seven. I don't know car stuff. You go

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Speaker 4: to card meets, you talk to people, you make friends.

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Speaker 4: It's the beautiful thing about this culture that we're we're in.

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Speaker 4: And he invites me to their secret spot.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's it's yeah.

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Speaker 4: He invites me to secret spot where him and his

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Speaker 4: like so it's really easy to slide, you know, good

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Speaker 4: on tires. You can go all day secluded. And so

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Speaker 4: they take me to this spot. They set a cone

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Speaker 4: up and they're like, you need to be able to

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Speaker 4: do donuts around this if you want to drive with us.

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Speaker 2: If you want to drive with us, you got to

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Speaker 2: learn how to do the basis. No, I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's like the first thing you got to learn.

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Speaker 5: This is how I remember it.

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Speaker 4: There could be you know, variances and things like that,

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Speaker 4: but this is how I remember this story. And it

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Speaker 4: just like it gives me chills every time I think

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Speaker 4: about it because like there's a very defining moment in

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Speaker 4: my life, honestly. So, you know, I do the donuts

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Speaker 4: and then time goes on and these guys just take.

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Speaker 5: Me under their wing and teach me everything.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: They taught me how to clutch kick on Rocket Boulevard,

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Speaker 4: which was another spot that we used to go to,

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Speaker 4: which was just a perfect sweeper and you could just

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Speaker 1: Can you describe what a clutch kick is for the listeners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they taught me how to clutch kick. And

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Speaker 4: a clutch kick is where is a way to initiate

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Speaker 4: and drifting. So as you're running towards the apex, you

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Speaker 4: push the clutch in, rev it up, and then pop

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Speaker 4: kick and that'll get the car sideways and initiate your drift.

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Speaker 4: So they taught me how to do that. They taught

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Speaker 4: me how to do a lot of things, and they

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Speaker 4: made drifting real for me. You know, they helped me

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Speaker 4: understand like, oh, it's not just in video games, this

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Speaker 4: closer with and Jukie racing as well.

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Speaker 5: They've built drift cards. They've competed in Formula.

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Speaker 4: And that's when I got to see professional drifting. So

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Speaker 4: going to like NOBE Nationals and seeing you know, people

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Speaker 4: like Gyamanaka and Justin Pollock, like completely different spectrums of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You're You're there really at like the peak of

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Speaker 2: drifting motorsports, really when it was coming together in the US, right.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like I was a couple

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Like I wasn't there for D one versus USA,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I definitely got to witness the early

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can you can clearly see that my

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Speaker 5: But I still feel very.

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Speaker 4: Much a product of American drifting from you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: out of V eight and my R seven, you know,

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Speaker 4: the R seven that I talked about, learned how to

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Speaker 4: drift in all that stuff. I ended up smashing that

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Speaker 4: I did a lot in life, you know, like I

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Speaker 4: lost my license for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I had to really oh yeah, just just.

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Speaker 5: Doing stupid stuff. I don't recommend anyone.

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Speaker 2: Losing their license and different time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't even for street drifting. It

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Speaker 4: was just like stupid speeding tickets here and there, like

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Speaker 4: speed traps and points. There's a point system in Florida

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Speaker 4: and you get X amount of points, they just take

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I lost my license for a couple months,

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Speaker 4: and that was probably one of the hardest couple of

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Speaker 4: when I got in with in JUGI Racing. They weren't hiring.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going to come and sweep some

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Speaker 4: and then I got my RX seven from my friend Zach.

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Speaker 4: So my friend Zach had this Vight R seven look

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Speaker 2: You bought it with the V eight.

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Speaker 4: So I bought it with a blown up y okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So he had that car forever and I always joked

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Speaker 4: E six, parked it under a tree. I had a

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Speaker 4: and I posted it up for sale and he's like,

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Speaker 4: I want that car, and I was like, well, I

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Speaker 4: want R seven and the Crown Vic was really nice.

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Speaker 2: I just had a did you guys do a trade

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Speaker 5: We did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the prices were back then, but

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Speaker 2: today that wouldn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, no one wanted RX sevens. There's a there's a

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Speaker 4: time where RX sevens you could. No one really didn't

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Speaker 4: mess with the rotaries a lot. I mean, obviously people

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Speaker 4: mess with the rotaries, but the common car guy didn't

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because today like they're very I feel like

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Speaker 2: sought after.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was the FC though it was at

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Speaker 5: Hey C is way better than that loud.

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Speaker 1: The FC is still in the affordable like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could buy a nice FC bill for a decent price,

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Speaker 1: whereas f d's are like minimum forty grand for a

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Speaker 1: nice car. So that's why that R seven you bought,

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Speaker 1: the FC was swapped with the VA to get more horsepower.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so he was a drag racer. He was a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's forever a legend and he did he did

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Speaker 5: So funny story. I'm a back up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: My name's Hertretch Hoonigan is Hoonigan eight letters. Hoonigan's launch

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people don't know that I was

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Speaker 2: Not to take away from everyone else who's there on

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Speaker 1: No, not at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, but I mean, you know, I just had a

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Speaker 4: I said, oh, no problem, and I'm in Florida. There

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Speaker 2: Would you edit on?

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Speaker 4: That's That's Brian's dream is editors that'll stay up til

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Speaker 5: Getting stuff done.

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Speaker 4: Brian messages me on Facebook and he's like, hey, you

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Speaker 2: We have such similar stories of like I always you

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Speaker 2: I packed my two forty SX with everything, my V

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Speaker 4: Just to make it, just just to do something right.

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Speaker 4: So when I left to go to Houning and I

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Speaker 4: He chose hot Wheels and he takes it all in.

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited to kind of nurture that and see

446
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 4: what it becomes.

447
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see it.

448
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's really exciting. It's really exciting.

449
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 2: And you just shot a show in the UK. Do

450
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: you want to talk about that at all?

451
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 5: Sure?

452
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 4: So I just had the opportunity to shoot Hot was

453
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 4: Ultimate Challenge. Retligwood top gare Us the Flores Lava was

454
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 4: the host of the show and also a judge.

455
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 5: I was a judge, and then Delala was also a judge.

456
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: Son was also a guest of one of the episods.

457
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a guest. He was a wonderful guest.

458
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: It was very mean to religion it was great. Actually,

459
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: just kidding, but I never dreamt of being on TV.

460
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: I am and was so happy to see that you

461
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: were one of the hosts of that show.

462
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

463
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: I feel like you are so deserving of this opportunity.

464
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: I was just I saw you in the airports that

465
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 2: were passing ways and I like had to stop you

466
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: to say, dude, I'm so happy for you.

467
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that. It still doesn't feel real, honestly,

468
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: and it's like I never dreamt of being on TV,

469
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 4: and then we started doing it. I was like, Wow,

470
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: I didn't even know I dreamed of this, but now

471
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 4: that I'm doing it, this is like a dream come true.

472
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 4: And then like the cherry on top is that my mom,

473
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: you know, gets to see me on TV.

474
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 5: Like this is such a cool thing.

475
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: Like not that I ever thought she thought I was

476
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: a failure or anything like that, but I just feel

477
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: like that is an accomplishment as a parent to see

478
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: your child do something on a grand stage like that.

479
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: So it just it felt really cool to be a

480
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: part of it.

481
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 4: That was an experience of a lifetime being in a

482
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Speaker 4: production like that and working with people like rut Sung,

483
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: Terry crews, Jay Leno, and like, we were just around

484
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 4: legendary folks, So it was cool to get to feed

485
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: off of their energy and just learn by being around

486
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 4: you guys. I learned how to kind of just purely

487
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Speaker 4: be yourself when you're on a stage like that.

488
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 5: And this is what I just gathered from watching you

489
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Speaker 5: guys do your thing.

490
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 4: You didn't really change for any situation, right, I feel

491
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: like you stayed very true to yourself and also making

492
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: yourself vulnerable. So when Terry was on, I watched him

493
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 4: be so happy and you know, speak to someone, and

494
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 4: then the story kind of got a little deep, you know,

495
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 4: sharing sharing stuff about her aunt and things like that,

496
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: and like you could feel the emotion just kind of

497
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: come out of him, and he made himself vulnerable and

498
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: shared some stuff.

499
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Speaker 5: And this is on camera and off camera, you know,

500
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Speaker 5: and it's just like.

501
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Speaker 2: Wow, isn't that wild? Because you watch TV as a

502
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: viewer and you look at these people and you're like

503
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: almost like they're you think they're putting on something or

504
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: you think that they're behaving differently when they're they're just

505
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: unapologetically being their self. They're being open, vulnerable, And I

506
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: feel like the people who are most successful with the

507
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: people who are just themselves.

508
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Speaker 4: And that's what I feel like I gathered for that exactly,

509
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: is you don't have to try to be anything but yourself.

510
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 5: Just have a good time and if it works, it works.

511
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: And same with kids who are listening like social media,

512
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: whatever you're trying to do. I feel like if you

513
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: just be yourself at the end of the day, that's

514
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: you are enough. You are enough.

515
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't get caught up looking at social media accounts.

516
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: Social media is kind of a joke.

517
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: I know, it's high like real. Don't compare yourself and that.

518
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 4: I mean, it's something I even struggled with at times, right,

519
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: because you know, we all do. We worked hard to

520
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: create content and build this stuff. And you have all

521
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: of these peers and you see all these people doing

522
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: all this crazy stuff, and it'll get in your head.

523
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Speaker 6: You know, that's the thing, creating content, you know, right,

524
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Speaker 6: and once as long as you remind yourself that you know,

525
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 6: everyone is a person and everyone is going through stuff

526
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 6: and doing stuff, it keeps you grounded.

527
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Speaker 5: Don't do it for the gram, do it because you

528
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: love it.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think you were going to be

530
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Speaker 1: doing when you were a kid with their other aspirations.

531
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Speaker 4: I I definitely loved computers, so I thought maybe I

532
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: would get into computer programming. I also liked, you know, architecture,

533
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: but I also just liked gaming too, so I didn't

534
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 4: have a definitive, you know, of what I wanted to do.

535
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: And then the moment that I started messing with cars,

536
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: it was just game over.

537
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Speaker 2: Did you go through I did for myself, which is

538
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: why I ask about going to college or not. In

539
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: my early twenties, I definitely had a lot of regret

540
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: of maybe I'm making the wrong decision, and if there's

541
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: a time to do, it's got to be now, because

542
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be years and I might regret this

543
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: down the line. Did you go through that regret at all?

544
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: Were you very much not right for me?

545
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

546
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: I felt really good about my decision because the only

547
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: higher learning in the automotive space was being a mechanic,

548
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: and I didn't.

549
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: At least that's what I felt.

550
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: I tried going to automotive school, and when I grasped

551
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: that and realized, well, I guess my options are start

552
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: my own shop. Really, but at the time I wasn't

553
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Speaker 2: focused on storying amound stuff I was thinking of the

554
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: job I would get and was working a dealership or

555
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: turn wrenches somewhere, right.

556
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: And I was okay working on cars, but I don't

557
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't convinced that that's what I wanted to do

558
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 4: for the rest of my life.

559
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Speaker 5: Either.

560
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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed driving. I feel like once I started driving,

561
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 4: and once I started drifting, I felt really and I

562
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: mean like this brings in feelings of, you know, my

563
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: dad passing and things like that. Nothing felt right until

564
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 4: I started drifting, you know, And so driving cars, the

565
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: feeling of driving cars, the freedom, the just everything goes away.

566
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 5: It just did something to me that led me to this.

567
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: Right, there was no other option but to chase making

568
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: more opportunities for me to be inside of a car driving.

569
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Speaker 4: And because of that, it made me feel good about

570
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: my decision not to go to college. And I'm not

571
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: saying you shouldn't go to college. I think there's definitely

572
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: reasons to go to college. I think I definitely could

573
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: have learned a lot more about business and things like.

574
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: That sane, you know, But I do feel like school

575
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: teaches you how to apply yourself. You don't always learn

576
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: that necessarily in the real world.

577
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 5: Either self discipline is very difficult.

578
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Song remind me, did you go to college? You did

579
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: four years?

580
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get a PhD In being handsome or No.

581
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: I was on my way to law school. Okay, yeah,

582
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: that's what I thought I was going to be doing.

583
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: But this girl that I was dating in college, she

584
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: it was like the first girl that I ever fell

585
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: in love with, right, and I was actually going to

586
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: be a lawyer for her, right because I was like, oh, yeah,

587
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: we know, we'll have a happy life together. And then

588
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: she cheated on me. And I have to actually have

589
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: to thank this this woman, because after I found that out,

590
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: I became very selfish. I was like, I'm never going

591
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: to live my life for somebody else. I mean to

592
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: do exactly what I wanted to do. I pursued this

593
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: stream of being an actor, and I think the combination

594
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: of having my heart broken and then being angry and

595
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: then feeling like I wasted my time with this person,

596
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna now worry about myself and pursue this stream.

597
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: So it gave me tunnel vision. So I think back now,

598
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: if I had stayed with this person, I'd probably be divorced.

599
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: I have kids that you know, being neglected, and I'd

600
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: be very unhappy, you know. And so sometimes these things

601
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: happen in your life where in the moment you feel,

602
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, like the world is ending and it's such

603
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: a horrible situation and you're angry at the world. But

604
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: actually it changes the course of your life.

605
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Speaker 3: They are these doors that open right with you, you know, yeah,

606
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: your life today.

607
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like houting him and got lucky because

608
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: right when I started working there, I had suffered my

609
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: worst heartbreak. Oh really yeah, and then tunnel Vision happened

610
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: and I just I had worked endlessly.

611
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel that.

612
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you got to get your heart broke into

613
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I think, to rebuild that clarity, right, Yeah, yeah, I

614
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. There's a question I want to

615
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: ask you her. We didn't really talk about it, and

616
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: when we're doing the Hot Wheels episode, because that was

617
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: the first time I met you in the UK. And

618
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, what really impressed me about that show is

619
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: like the diversity and the host. You know, you have

620
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Rutledge and the Lull and then you right, so I

621
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: mean diversity within that show. And I think in Hollywood,

622
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, there is this like charge to you know,

623
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Speaker 1: have like, you know, representation, but when you were coming

624
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: up in the car community. Even currently, when I look

625
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: at the landscape, there are very few African Americans, you know,

626
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: that are actually part of the car community. Like you

627
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: go to a car meet, if I see a handful,

628
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a lucky day, you know. I want to ask you, like,

629
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: why do you think that is?

630
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a tough game. I think representation is

631
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: a massive thing. And that's one thing I'm learning now

632
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: that I'm in the position that I am right, is

633
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: I get a lot of people who look like me

634
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: come up to me and say thank you to me

635
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: for doing what I've done so that they could see

636
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: it happen and potentially go in that direction. It's really

637
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: interesting to me because you know, twenty years ago when

638
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: I was doing this, I mean, I'm from Florida. That

639
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: should tell you what the automotive community might have looked like.

640
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: I didn't let that the term me or stop me,

641
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: but I understand how it could, you know, and so

642
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: why I don't know why, but I think if I

643
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: had to put anything on it, I'd say having more

644
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: representation might might help. I think it's gotten much better,

645
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: and that's kind of where I'm moving now with what

646
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm doing is I moved on from Hoonigan and now

647
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm partners with T Pain and Nappy Boy Automotive. It's

648
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: black owned, you know, black forward facing, but all inclusive.

649
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: We're definitely going to focus heavy on going to events

650
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: and just building on that representation thing that we just

651
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: spoke about.

652
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: You know, It's funny.

653
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: I was actually thinking about this the other day because

654
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 4: because I fully let go of my pro dreams a

655
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: long time ago, just because of cost and everything like that,

656
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: but I also didn't expect me to be where I

657
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: am today, so to speak, you know, and that's not

658
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: me putting myself on a pedestal, but.

659
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean I will. You're a hero to so

660
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: many people.

661
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: You know, I have reach, I helped, you know. I

662
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: worked at Honigan for ten years and that brand was

663
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: a powerhouse in the automotive space. And you know, I

664
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: have sponsors now and I do things and I'm going

665
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: to try to build a real car next year. And

666
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about this the other day. I

667
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: was like, why why don't I just try it for fun?

668
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: You know, See what I can make happen. See who'd

669
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: be willing to help support the dream. Honestly, I watch Formulad,

670
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: I know so many of the drivers and the amount

671
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: of work I'm going to have to do to even

672
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: even make eye contact with them is going to be insane.

673
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: But it would be such a fun challenge to do.

674
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of creeping back up on my

675
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: list necessary, you know, it would be very fun. You guys,

676
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: got any stories you want to tell me? How did

677
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: you get in the cars through the movie?

678
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: No No. I had a neighbor when I was a kid, Like,

679
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, my household was not like the healthiest, so

680
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I'd like wander around the neighborhood, right, and there was

681
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: this old man that was working on his sixty three

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: or sixty nine Impella so ss with red interior, and

683
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: he was an old Korean war vet and he had

684
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: he would always have the radio like and everytime I

685
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: hear beach Boy songs, I think of him. And he

686
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: looked like the fawns, you know. He had his hair

687
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: slicked back, and he had his like camel unfiltered cigarettes

688
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: like rolled up in his sleeve and he would be

689
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: restoring this old impella, right, and he would let me

690
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: hang out with him, and he'd never ask any questions,

691
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: like old school dude, you know, it's like people's business

692
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: or their business, you know. But he just let me

693
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: sit there in the garage while he's smoking and slowly

694
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: restoring this car and ask him all these stupid questions

695
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: like you know, what does SS mean? It's like why,

696
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, does it have to be red interior? Like

697
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: what is like oem? Like why does it have to

698
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: like come from factory? And he started showing me all

699
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: these like catalogs from you know, from the manufacturers to

700
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: buy the badging and you know, the interior parts and

701
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: bits and and then I remember he was so happy

702
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: the day that the convertible cloth or of the fabric

703
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: was installed, and he goes, this is how it came

704
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: out of factory, right. And so since I was a kid,

705
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, the idea of being like a caretaker for

706
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: old cars was something that was planted by this gentleman.

707
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, I'm not into racing and

708
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: going fast, like I actually am not even into like

709
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: showing my cars to people. It's really like the idea

710
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: of being a historian, being a caretaker of these old

711
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: cars and having this, you know, sanctuary in a garage,

712
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: you know, especially, I'm always in search of like mentors too,

713
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: so because I would say I know nothing. You know,

714
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: as I get older, I realized I know less and less,

715
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: and especially with cars, it's always something to learn. There's

716
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: always somebody that knows way more than your Usually there

717
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: are lessons you're going to learn from that person that

718
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: you can apply to your life, right, And that's actually

719
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: my connection to cars is that I get the opportunity

720
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: to meet some amazing human beings that are passionate about

721
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: these like you know, machines and these cars and their

722
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: historians or their builders or their racers. And most of

723
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: the time I walk away I and you know, people

724
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: be very surprised I don't give a shit about the car.

725
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I do not. It's really I care about the person,

726
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: and then I have a connection to the car.

727
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: Hearing the story about the guy who used to let

728
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: you hang on his garage actually helps me understand your

729
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: builds and things like that, because you can see that

730
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: kind of shine through those things.

731
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: M M. That's really interesting.

732
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: Do you like drifting?

733
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: The drifting itself, I have no interest in, but because

734
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: of the access I am allowed due to the fast

735
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and various movies. You know, I get to meet these

736
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: like amazing seeing people within the drift community.

737
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: The car stories, why they're.

738
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Drifters, and what it takes to be a drifter. Like

739
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: I meet these professional drifters that tow their own cars

740
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: from you know, Middle America and there, you know, there's

741
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: six in a room, so their crew is like, you know,

742
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: all sleeping on the floor together, and you know, I

743
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: get I get excited and I get inspired by that enthusiasm,

744
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: that passion. You know what I mean, Because I say

745
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: this almost on a daily basis, But to keep you know,

746
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: your headlight shining bright, the light behind your eyes. It's

747
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: very hard as you get older because life, you know,

748
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: fucks you up, you know what I mean.

749
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: So, and to what you're saying. When we went to

750
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: the NASCAR race together, you were very passionate about standing

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: by the pit boxes and watching them do tire changes

752
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: and watching them work on the cars and seeing how

753
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: quickly they were able to do it and how in

754
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: unison they did it without communicating with their words but

755
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: more of their hands.

756
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: But I think that also stems from maybe your entry

758
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: point into automotive with this neighbor was based on the

759
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: stories and seeing what he was able to create with

760
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: his story, right, Yeah.

761
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: I agree with that, Like telling that story really opened

762
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: me up to to what you're into as a as

763
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: a car person. But I'm also curious, what, uh what

764
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: drift events have you been to? Just for me a

765
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 4: d We're going to drag you out to some now

766
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: yeah ft so so because you know, I go to

767
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 4: an event annually called Final Bout.

768
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 5: So next year, let's make that.

769
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: I think that'll probably be more of my thing.

770
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go to a final about when

771
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: like Instagram was like first popping off. I used to

772
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: fall Animal Styles, that's their name. I used to I

773
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: don't know these people in real life. I just I

774
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: just like I still don't know who they are today,

775
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: but that was their stuff was really sick.

776
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

777
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: So it's team based, so it's no there's no individual

778
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: individual scores and.

779
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Find your squad.

780
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

781
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: So the first year, first two years, I drove an

782
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: Animal Style Okay, Final Bout, and I mean I held

783
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: him back, but I'm a lot better now.

784
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: So if we want to run it back, well, you

785
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: know we can do that.

786
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: But you know, your car show score gets taken in

787
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: and then the driving happens, which is basically a jam

788
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: session with the teams, so all.

789
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: The style and like a tandem of three so.

790
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: Minimum three, and there are teams with up to like

791
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 5: seven cars.

792
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: That all sounds so cool.

793
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: It's really cool. It's really cool.

794
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: And you know, there are teams where I've been this

795
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: person on the team where there's one guy kind of

796
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: holding it back, right, just not doing.

797
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: As well because you want to be door to door as.

798
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: Close as you can be, as smooth as you can be.

799
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: And sometimes there's a guy or two that kind of

800
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: hold the team back. But you can't park that guy.

801
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: You guys are a team. It's not about winning. It's

802
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: about bringing your team together and doing the best that

803
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: you can. And so because you are like, if if

804
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: you park that guy and we find out you park

805
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: that guy, you're going to lose points because that's just

806
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 4: not that's not what you're here for.

807
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: You know, who is the one of the founder a

808
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: final about that lives out in la that has the

809
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: ft ilia. Yeah, yeah, Iliah keeps pressing me to go

810
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: to final. I was supposed to go to this advent.

811
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they good enjoy man I mean, obviously, I totally

812
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: understand where you're coming from and you're feeling in cars.

813
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: I actually love that you can say that proudly, you know,

814
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: because some people will probably you know, kind of keep

815
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: that inside and not want to share that.

816
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 5: Just you know, people like to fit in. I'll never

817
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 5: fit in.

818
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: I still don't fit in, So there's like, you know,

819
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: a question of yeah, I do not fit in anywhere still,

820
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: so that it's okay not to.

821
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: Fit in I don't fit in cars.

822
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean you're right. I think people assume

823
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: because you know, of Han like I am this like

824
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: car expert and mechanic and professional level like drifter.

825
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think people see Han when they talk to

826
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: so they don't understand that that's a character you're playing.

827
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I used to get like bashed because

828
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I would go That's why it's very hard for me

829
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: to go to like cars and coffee. You know, I

830
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: have to like drop up a lot of courage to

831
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: go there because I would go and being inquisitive and

832
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: just being very naive. I would go to like dudes

833
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: and go, hey, can you tell me about this car?

834
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: Right?

835
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: And you know, like I remember, like the first time

836
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: like the R Eights came out. I was so infatuated

837
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: with this car and there are these dudes that modified it.

838
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: And I went over there and I was like, can

839
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: you tell me about this? And like what motors in here?

840
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: And like what are you guys doing? Like how do

841
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: you modify? Like how do you get the horsepar? And

842
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: I thought like I was making friends, right, and maybe

843
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: if I wasn't han it, you know, they would have

844
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: been more accepting. But this is where I also realized, oh,

845
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: you have to be careful in the car com it's

846
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: very cliquish too, Like after I left, they were talking

847
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: like hello, shit about me. It actually like made me

848
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: go maybe I do not belong here right then, And

849
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: as time went on, the circle of friends that I have, right,

850
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, they're so supportive in the car community, they're

851
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: just you know, amazing people. And you start to realize

852
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: just because their car dudes, it doesn't make us family, right, right,

853
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: Like some people are into cars for different reasons.

854
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: And that's a tough that's a tough situation, you know,

855
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: being vulnerable and just being open like oh what's this

856
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: and and then getting that kind of backlash. But I'm

857
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: glad it didn't stop you from continuing to have fun.

858
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: And now they motivated me to change kind of you know,

859
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: the environment too, and to be like an ambassador for

860
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: this change of inclusiveness, to go, hey man, you know

861
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: it's okay that you don't know anything, right, I mean,

862
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: come and enjoy and let us like share the knowledge.

863
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: You know. I believe that it is our responsibility to

864
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, be mentors and you know, to be able

865
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: to pass off this knowledge. And you know, it is

866
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: frustrating at times where people hoard their knowledge, right. You know.

867
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think is very important for someone with your

868
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: reach to be in the automotive community because like a

869
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: lot of people fear that the automotive space will eventually

870
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: die out. But as long as we have people like

871
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: you with your reach and your stardom sharing the love

872
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: for it, somebody's going to see it and it just

873
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: kind of keeps trickling up. And that's that's another thing

874
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 4: that I love about, you know, working with t Pain.

875
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: He has cars, he's had, you know, fancy cars and

876
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: fun cars, but he's not a super car guy either,

877
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: you know, and he's learning now as as we go

878
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: through this process, I think he's learned a lot, but

879
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: him not being afraid to be vulnerable. I think it's

880
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: great because like we went to we've we've done three

881
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: really big track days this year and he's still in

882
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: very much in a learning phase of drifting. You could

883
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: have just wrecked your car in front of all these

884
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: people and they would be so excited that you wrecked

885
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 4: your car because then they get to go online and

886
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: talk shit, you know. And and but he didn't. He

887
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: did great. He handled the pressure well, he made the adjustments,

888
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: he took his time and learned.

889
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: And I don't know, I just.

890
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Love that, you know, thanks for sharing that. It's like,

891
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, him willing to be vulnerable, right and taking

892
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: having the courage to fail.

893
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 5: Yep. I mean that's it's a big deal. Yeah, it's

894
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: a really big deal.

895
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: And he wears it on his sleeve too, like we'll

896
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: be there the day before. I'm like, you're ready. He's like, no,

897
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: I'm not ready. I don't you know. He's very honest,

898
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: very humble. Honestly he said this, and this might be oversharing,

899
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 4: but he's like, I don't need money, you know, because

900
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: he's done well for himself. He's like, so I'm not

901
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: asking you to join me in this so that you

902
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: can make me money. He didn't want me to think

903
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: that he was using me as an entry point into

904
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: the automotive space since I had just been, you know,

905
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: been a part of Honigan for so long and this

906
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: and that. But he made it very clear, He's like,

907
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 4: this isn't a this isn't a money thing. This is

908
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 4: something that I'm passionate about. And this is something I

909
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: can see you're clearly passionate about, and so that just

910
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: makes me want us to go on this journey together.

911
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: The brief time that I met him when I was

912
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, I see a sincereness from him, and even

913
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: just you saying this, I'm like, I could I believe

914
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: that just from the little time that I that I

915
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: got to literally say hi to him. Yeah, it's sincere

916
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: and he just likes cars and wants to get into.

917
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: It's out of this world, you know.

918
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: And the same goes with you and the people that

919
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: I met on the hot Wheel set, Like you just

920
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: don't expect people who do who have done these amazing.

921
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: Things, to just be normal humans.

922
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 5: You know, I was taught, you.

924
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: Know, when I was younger, that the camera doesn't lie

925
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: I think it was actually Sevestia Stillone told me that

926
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: because I asked him a question. I said, how does

927
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: one become like a superhero? How does one become Rocky Balboa?

928
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: And he simply said, the camera does not lie. There's

929
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: certain people that can never play that role because that's

930
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: not who they are, right And I think T Pain recognized,

931
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: like with it what Amelia was saying about himself of

932
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: being a sincere person because he has feet on the

933
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: ground and being truthful. And then like, when I see

934
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: your content, I see no pretense. Literally, I see no like,

935
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, fakery, Like you are who you are and

936
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: then when I meet you, you are who I thought

937
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: you were going to be. And there's a lot of

938
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: people that have this pretense. It's all show. And I think,

939
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: especially with the pressures of social media, people feel like

940
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: they need to embody this idea, you know, because I

941
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: didn't understand what this partnership with T Pain is and

942
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: it's super cool to hear that it's about like this

943
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: positive sincere representation, and I think that's going to make

944
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: a tremendous difference in the car community for other African

945
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: American kids that wonder, you know, like how do I be,

946
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: you know, be a part of this community right And

947
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, when I met you, I was like, what

948
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: a great ambassador you know, And you know part I

949
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: hope you don't change because they say, you know, fame

950
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: changes people, but money changes people. I'm the same guy,

951
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: but I think you're

952
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: You're also and I'm so happy we got to chat

953
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: with you.