1 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody, middle Coff and bring it 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Out podcast. It's early afternoon on the fourth in July. 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Just poured my silver cocktail. Wanted to uh, you know, 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I was actually inspired. This man lived through an earthquake today. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: But I flipped on the television day you know, day 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: off for all of America's Fourth of freaking July. I mean, god, 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: I love America. Uh feel lucky enough I can talk 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: about football and Fourth of July. But I didn't even 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: think I was gonna do a podcast. And then I 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: saw Colin Coward, Dude's working on the fourth and I'm like, 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: if Coward can work on the fourth, John Middlecoff can 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: record a podcast. Uh so I'm recording a podcast. And 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: there were a couple of things that everyone kept sending 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: me in my d MS. We'll get to the Middlecoff 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: mail bag a little later. You can always land up 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: in the d M s at John middle Coff is 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: my Instagram handle. But everyone was sending me the rankings 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: of Chris Simms. I guess he ranked the quarterbacks. And 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I was kind of dismissive of it. I was like, yeah, whatever, 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't even care. But then I kind of looked 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: at it, I'm like, this is absurd, So I have 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: to give my opinions on that. I guess this would 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: have been July three. July three was kind of like 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: my screw round. I played a bunch of golf and 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, the ESPN ticker went down. I looked and 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: I saw Zeke had been exonerated by the league. He's 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: not gonna get suspended, but but I think the Cowboys 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: have a Zeke Elliott problem right now. And then, as 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I promised here, until we've covered every division, We've done 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: the South, and we've done the East, and both the 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: NFC and the n f C today will do the 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: a f C North, which probably has you could argue, 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the most polarizing team coming into the season in the 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Odell Beckham, Baker Mayfield fraid of kitchens. But 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: I I gotta start with this, Listen, I am not 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: too proud to know what works in the media. Uh, 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: clicks if you run a website matter like people whenever 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I tweet something that they don't agree with, like middle 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: cuff just working for clicks. I guess what, I don't 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: get any money off the clicks off Twitter. That's at Jack, 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: He's the guy making all that cash. There's nothing, literally, 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: no business I work in where I get credit for clicks. 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I I write for The Athletic. You have to pay 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: to read the content. Like a podcast, you have to 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: listen to it. So just if you click on it 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: and then nothing happens, I don't get any credit. So 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really in the click business. That's a website thing. 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: And I do think like people are in the clicks business. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm not ignorant enough to act like bleacher Report and 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Florial like they're in the click business because to justify 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: big ad dollars in that business, you have to get 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: millions of people to click. And that's where I'm not 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: saying that that statement doesn't have some validity four or 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: five years ago. But I think it's never been less 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: relevant unless you're pointing the finger at Florio or bleacher Report, 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: which are kings of the clicks. Now. Obviously Simms is 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: kind of associated with bleacher Report, works for bleacher Report. 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I guess maybe not anymore in our NBC whatever. All 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: this aname ship for me. But he put out a 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: top twenty list, and again I got no problem with lists, 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: but we do lists in NFL scouting, Like, ranked me 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: your top twenty players in your area, ranked me your 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: top twenty free agents, named me your top fifty picks 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: in this draft. Well, not what you think it's gonna be, 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: but the players you like. Like, that's that happens in 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: real life. You rank free agents, did it for years. 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: You ranked draft picks, did it for years. You don't 68 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: get as obsessed like ranking individual players in the league 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: that you can't have. But it's a fun media exercise. 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: So rank your top forty quarterbacks. Cool list. Obviously people 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: are gonna have differentiate aiding opinions on this, but I 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: think that if you do put Tom Brady number nine, 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: if he is number nine on your quarterback list, and 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't even need to see what you know premises 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: are your quarterback like who had the best season? Eight team, 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: who has had the best careers? I don't even know, 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: because it's irrelevant. You put Tom Brady at nine. Race 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: your race, your list, because no one cares or gives 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: you any credibility when you do that, under no circumstances 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: a gun into your head. You can't put Tom Brady 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: kninth like that, that is, that's not possible. So that's 82 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: when I really finally dove and looked at this list 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: and I saw Tom Brady was nine. I almost said, well, 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: it's just really worth doing a segment off of, because 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: I think the entire thing is bullshit. But if we're 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: gonna take the list seriously, which for this little segment 87 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to, it immediately becomes like no and void. 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: When Tom Brady's nine, you have Cam Newton ahead of 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you have DeShawn Watson ahead of Tom Brady. Listen, 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna okay, let's I'll read you the top fifteam Rogers, Mahomes, Russell, Luck, 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Big Band, Matt Ryan, Cam, Tom Brady. Then 92 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: this guy ten I don't know if you've heard of him, 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Carson Wentz, who hasn't finished the season in 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: two years, above Philip Rivers, Dak Prescott, Matt Stafford, Kirk Cousins, 95 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: I your top fifteen couple, and then you've got Cousins, Folds, Mayfield, 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: car Golf. Here's my biggest takeaways. Again, if I'm attempting 97 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: to take this list seriously, like I said, the moment 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: you see Tom Brady is nine, we all have the 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: same reaction. But my next reaction is, under no circumstances 100 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: on God's green Earth, based on what we know about 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: these guys careers, uh their resumes, can Deshaun Watson be fifth? 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Because I was someone that bet on Deshaun Watson in 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: that playoff game when they played the Indianapolis Colts, and 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: he was horrific, absolutely terrible. Now do I like Deshaun Watson? Hell? Yes, 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: is he a franchise quarterback? I believe so? Is he 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: everything that's good about football, high character, winning college players, 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: a total package. Always seems like he's smiling everything I've heard. 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: He's a hard worker. I'm a big fan. But in 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: no world, no world Chris Simms or the world that 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I live in, can Deshaun Watson be fifth? Based off 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: what he's done in the NFL through two years, which 112 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: last year towards a c L and then this year 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: at a whole playoff game against the division rival, looked 114 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: like a JV player. I mean a stats to me, 115 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: as stats were, they were better than it looked. He 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: was twenty nine, forty nine. I think he threw for 117 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: two or thirty yards and a pick and a touchdown. 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: If you just asked me, what did Shaun Watson do 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: in that playoff game? I would have guessed completed fifteen 120 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: balls through from a hundred fifty yards and was just 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: hideous because he was and again like the player, but 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: he can't be that high. And then I also have 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: a little problem with this. Uh, Baker Mayfield is like 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: the apple of everyone's eye. He's way higher than he 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: should be. Like to me, he's not a top twenty 126 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: quarterback right now? Can he become one? Can he become 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback? For sure? But the information I have, 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I just I can't go there. And Jared Goff, who 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: again I have, I'm like I have a bias four 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: given that at root for him, he's from northern California 131 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and from northern California, just root for you. Then he 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: went to cal grew up going to cow games. But 133 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: his physical skill set isn't really what I like my 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: type guy, Like I'm really more of a big arm guy, 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: like I'll always lean with the Wentz is with hell 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: even like the Derek Carr's big picture I'm gonna miss. 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: But Jared Goff has become really good these last couple 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: of years. And I know he had a bad Super Bowl. Well, 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: guess what it was the Super Bowl against Bill Belichick. 140 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is not the nineteenth best quarterback right now, 141 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: And in no world Shoe Baker Mayfield or even Derek 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Carr or Kirk Cousins be ahead of him. Matt Stafford like, 143 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm a sucker from Matt Stafford, Like he's the type 144 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: guy if I could have got Matt Stafford with Andy 145 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Reid seven years ago, or Sean Payton or a guy 146 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: like that. I think we talked about Matt Stafford's career 147 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, just differently and Carson Wentz about 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. We'd all agree that Carson Wentz has more 149 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: physical talent. It's faster, I mean, he's probably stronger. He's 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: obviously got a much more potent arm. But in no world, 151 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: based on the information that we have, could Carson Wentz 152 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: to be ahead of Philip Rivers like that. That's not possible. 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, I'm talking a lot of ships, 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: so I might as well just do my own top ten. 155 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Here would be my top ten. Tom Brady has to 156 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: be one. This guy did not play that well last year, 157 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: even though the statistics says he did. But at the 158 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: eye test was definitely off. Now, I didn't understand Khalil 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Mack fell into him early, but I'm giving this guy 160 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: to benefit of the dowd. He's one of the best 161 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: players I've ever seen play. I got Aaron Rodgers two. Three, 162 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: I got Andrew Luck four. I got Drew Brees because 163 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I do think that Drew Brees looked a little off 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: down the stretch, looked a little old. I mean he 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: is old, He's forty years old. But I think when 166 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: you really dove into their team, they were kind of 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: two players. They were depending on ketting catching all their balls, 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara. They didn't really have anything else. 169 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I got Russell Wilson five. I'll go to the mat 170 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. I mean he's one of the To me, 171 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: he's one of the truly special, unique players I've ever 172 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: seen play football and in a big game. If you 173 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: tell me Russell Wilson's my quarterback, I'll feel good driving 174 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: to the stadium. Patrick Mahomes obviously, just based on last year, 175 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: he was incredible and it was as good as it 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: got in the NFL. What it was only his first 177 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: year starting. I'd based like what you've done in the league. 178 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: I do factor in. I do think he can become 179 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the best of this group. Obviously, he's got a guy 180 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: that could win multiple m vps. Everyone in Kansas City 181 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: will tell you. It's obviously the talent, but the character, 182 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: the just the way he conducts himself, just how happy 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: he is, optimistic, vibe is like he's a total package. 184 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: I'm betting on him, but I didn't. I couldn't put 185 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: him ahead against all these guys. They've just accomplished way more. 186 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: That's not saying I don't like him as much. Uh. 187 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Seven Matt Ryan. Everyone thinks he's terrible. He through thirty 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: five touchdown seven picks last year. His defense was atrocious. 189 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: He's been really good now for two or three years. 190 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm I I got Matt Ryan's back. Eight Rivers. I'm 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: a big Philip Rivers guy. I think he's a great 192 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: regular season player. It does piss me off he doesn't 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: play as well in big games in the playoffs, but 194 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: I I do think these next couple of years they 195 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: have a roster that's good enough to win a super Bowl. 196 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: And again, I'm just I got Philip Rivers back, Like 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan big Ben, this is a little more based 198 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: on what he's accomplish. But I'm sorry, Like Deshaun Watson, 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, I've seen big Ben win so many more 200 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: big games than obviously Cam Newton held and Matt. You 201 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: could make the argument that it is a that it's 202 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: a disservice to Ben on my list to be below 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Now, I just think Matt Ryan's playing way 204 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: better right now than big Ben. But there's a big 205 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: year for big Ben and then ten. I you know, 206 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: clearly Wentz is more talented than Dak, and I would 207 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: take a good Wentz season over a good Doc year. 208 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: But I when you get hurt a lot, I factor 209 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: that in. So I got Dac ten, but I would 210 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: have Wentz right there. And again, Wentz is the type 211 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: player that can immediately next year be like number five 212 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: on my list, you know, and Dak doesn't have that capability. 213 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: But I do have to factor in. Das played three seasons, 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: he's never missed a game, and two of those he's 215 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: played in playoff games. Like Wentz, his team gets to 216 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, he's just never there to do it again. 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm a Carsonal Wentz guy, and That's why these lists 218 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: are kind of really difficult, and people are gonna differ 219 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: with my list. But I think we all can agree 220 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady, on any list on it doesn't matter 221 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: who you are, where you're from, has to be number one. 222 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: While everyone is at least of according this, no one 223 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: knows where Kawhi Leonard is gonna go. Probably the biggest news, 224 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: uh in between, like the last big guy signing in 225 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: the NBA, it was this kind of report that came 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: out from the NFL. Maybe it was Zeke. I don't know. 227 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I can't even keep up. I was on the golf 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: course when it came out. Clearly the NFL said he's 229 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: not gonna be suspended, and you know that's for a 230 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: guy that's already been suspended. I thought they did get 231 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: it right. I mean, having watched that TMZ video where 232 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: they're in Vegas, like you should not get suspended for that. 233 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: And I have kind of defended Zeke because he has 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: a long resume now when he was coming out Ohio State, 235 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: like word in the NFL, I don't I don't know 236 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: if the media necessarily talked about this a lot, but 237 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: a big, a big red flag on Zeke was that 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: him men Bosa the older one, Joey. We're big party guys, 239 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just like there might have been some 240 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: some like drugs involved, like they were like ravers. I mean, 241 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: those dudes partied hard. But both of them were so 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: goddamn good. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a 243 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: moral high horse guy. I would have drafted either one. 244 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: I actually didn't love Joey that much coming out. I 245 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: was wrong, but Zeke I thought was a superstar, a 246 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: superstar like that stuff doesn't bother me when you're elite. 247 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother anyone in the NFL when you're elite. 248 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: Really so, but I think a lot of teams were 249 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: just weary with those two guys. Now, granted, with an 250 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: urban Meyer prospect, you always need a red flag him 251 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: because you never know, like, let's just look at urban Meyer, 252 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, some sketchy stuff coming out of his program. 253 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: Then he's had multiple incidences in the pros. He had 254 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: the one where he pulled that chicks you know, bathing 255 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: suit down in the parade. He had the other one 256 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: that became that he said she said where she said 257 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: there was a domestic you know incident. Uh. He ultimately 258 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: was suspended for that. Then there was this thing. Now, 259 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: this thing, I would say is a whole lot of nothing. 260 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: But when you have a guy like Zeke, it's just 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: been drip drip, drip, drip drip. It's always something and 262 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: a couple of them, even me, who I don't know. 263 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: It's not like I know the guy, but I feel 264 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: like I've kind of defended him. I'm like, you know, 265 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable with the NFL suspending a player when 266 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: it's just that he said, she said, We're just some 267 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: random hook up. And again I I always resort back 268 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: to the to the like the main point, if he 269 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: did it, he should be in jail. But I got 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: no clue, and clearly the NFL has no clue either, 271 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just always uncomfortable with these issues. But like 272 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: this one was an easy one for the NFL. He 273 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. But I do think Zeke has shown 274 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: a consistent ability to put himself in bad spots for 275 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: whatever reason. Like I heard someone say the other day, 276 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: and it's so true, Like the media makes a really 277 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: big job over like Roger Goodell has way too much power, 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: you know who really doesn't care The majority of the 279 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: NFL players. You know why because they never have to 280 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: meet with Roger Goodell. You know the percentage of players 281 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL that never once get even remotely close 282 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: to doing something stupid. It's probably like above, the overwhelming 283 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: majority of guys in the NFL just do the right things, 284 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: just live life like me or you. They go to work, 285 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: they come home, they have a girlfriend, they have a wife, 286 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: they have a kid, They do whatever. They maybe they're single, 287 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: but they're just normal humans, right. They eat, they work out, 288 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: they just do normal human things and avoid trouble. So 289 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: like Zeke's somewhat of an outlier. But Zeke also if 290 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Zeke was an undrafted free agent, he would have been 291 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: cut two issues ago. But talent exceeds your issues every time, 292 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: and it should. The the NFL is not in the 293 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: moral high compass business. They're in the winning football games business. 294 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: And I'll promise you this, Zeke Elliott will help any 295 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: team win football games. It's one of the best running 296 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: backs in the league and for them he's very, very important. 297 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: But I think Jerry is a problem on his hands. 298 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Like Amori a Maori's more of a projection as a player. 299 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Like Cann, he sustained this canny become a consistent, you 300 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: know player, But as a as a person, you don't 301 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: worry about it at all. Same with Dak. Dak's all 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: on the field. As a person, you don't care at all. 303 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. Last year you saw with the Cowboys, they 304 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of slow played them. They weren't sure on the 305 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: character stuff, even though they've been around him, and then 306 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: they weren't sure. He was just playing for a contract year. 307 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: And now they feel very comfortable with them, right and 308 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: for if you think about it, the Cowboys who kind 309 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: of have this history of this renegade team because in 310 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: the nineties, the White House, all that stuff they were doing, 311 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: the hookers, the cocaine. When you look at their team now, 312 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: like Dak, high character guy, Amory, high character guy, Jason Whitten, 313 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: high character guy, all their offensive Lineman, high character guy, 314 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Sean Lee, like Man of the Year Vander Rash seems 315 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: like a high level guy. Jalen Smith. How do you 316 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: not root for that guy? Like the majority of their team, 317 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: beside a couple of the d Lineman and Zeke feel 318 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: like pretty good guys. But obviously Jerry has a pretty 319 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: good feel for when they got a red flag guy. 320 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: One of their best players you know over this decade 321 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: was Des Bryant, big red flag guy. But Zeke, like 322 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Jerry wants to pay you, that was his pick and 323 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: it was a little I wouldn't say controverse to you 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: at the time, but would you ever you take a 325 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: running back that high? People like what? Well, Jerry has 326 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: been proven he was right right, But it's time for 327 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: you to kind of get it together. Because if I'm 328 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, under no circumstances can I hand Zeke a 329 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: big contract in this offseason. Not because I'm worried about 330 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: him as a player he dominates, because I'm worried about 331 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna do something so stupid. You can spend it 332 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: for eight games, like you can't even go to a 333 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: concert and not getting a fight with his girlfriend and 334 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: end up bumping, you know, a security guard, And again, 335 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I think that is so stupid. It doesn't mean anything 336 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: to me if it's of players, But it's this guy 337 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: that has this resume of doing stupid stuff. Look at 338 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt just can't avoid trouble. He's just 339 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: always in something. He's always in the headline. He was 340 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: in it in Kansas City. He was in it before 341 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: he even got to Kansas City, and now he's in 342 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: it again. Same with you know, to deal with Tyreek kill. 343 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Like some of these guys, for whatever reason, just find themselves. 344 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: It was always my issue with Ruben Foster. Even when 345 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: I defend some of these guys, It's like, Bro, you 346 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: can only have the cops come to your house like 347 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: three times before I'm out. Like Alden Smith, I was like, 348 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: even even after he hit the tree with drinking, it 349 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: was like the second time he'd been in trouble. I 350 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's football, he should be allowed 351 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: to play sunny. He was, Uh, he actually practiced that morning. 352 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: He's probably still hung over. He's probably drunk. But again, 353 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: like I got a while Davis and me, I'm not 354 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: affected by that stuff. But after you get some involvement 355 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: with the police, like the fourth time, fifth time, I'm 356 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: out on you. Like Jamis Winston, I kind of I said, Hey, 357 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I stayed by his back, have his back, have his 358 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: back by the uber, by the uber, I'm out Like Zeke. 359 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm teetering now. Zeke is still so damn good. I'm 360 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: not jumping off the bandwagon. But he has one more issue. 361 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: If I'm Jerry Jones, I'm just letting him play his 362 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: contract out. I'm not paying him. But even right now, 363 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: there's no chance I'm paying him this offseason. He's proven 364 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: that he his judgments poor like that, we know that 365 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: for a fact, like that's not even opinion. And I 366 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: think this is this always kind of makes sports fun 367 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: in the sense that we always, in you know, in football, 368 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: have three or four elite players that can't seem to 369 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: get it right. Now, it's not fun in the sense 370 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: when you're talking about domestic violence and stuff like that. 371 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible. Uh So that probably not the 372 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: best adjective to user to describe it, but it's always, 373 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, makes for these talking points because what should 374 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: you and should you not do with these situations? And 375 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever a right or wrong answer. Well, 376 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: the answer is always right. When the guy consistently keeps 377 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: getting in trouble, you should always get rid of them. 378 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: But certain guys turn their life around. And is he 379 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys that kind of can 380 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: get on the straight and narrow, or is it gonna 381 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: be one of those people that, like in three years 382 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: had two more incidents in playing on his third team. 383 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, And I think that's probably the 384 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: hardest part for where Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys 385 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: stand right now. Okay, let's dive into the a f 386 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: C North and the over Unders. You know what's crazy 387 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: about this division is that the majority of my adult 388 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: life and anyone probably listening to this under forty, I mean, 389 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: this division has been dominated by two teams, Steelers and 390 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Marvin Lewis had a couple of moments here 391 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: and there. I actually thought his team the year the 392 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: year Hugh Jackson his last year's the offensive coordinator. I 393 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: thought that team was absolutely stacked on. That team was good. 394 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: And then Andy Dalton broke his thumb. A J. McCarron 395 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: came in rest is history, But that team was really good. 396 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: But for the most part, the Steelers Ravens dominate this 397 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: division for a long period of time, right big reason 398 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: because beside the Marvin Lewis era, the Browns have played 399 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: zero factor. They have been horrendous. They've been the laughing 400 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: you know them, and probably the Raiders have been the 401 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: laughing stock of probably the NFL. Over the last twenty years. 402 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: But this is easily by a country mile the best 403 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: Browns team probably by a wide margin of that period 404 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: of time, right or I guess they left for a while. 405 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Whatever year they and back, like was that early two thousands, uh, 406 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: And then you look the Steelers, it's probably there, I 407 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: would say, biggest question mark team over that era. The 408 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Ravens have a new quarterback for the first time since 409 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: when oh, seven oh eight. It's been a long time 410 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: since Joe Flacco has not been the starting quarterback heading 411 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: into a season. And it's not like they just have 412 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: a random starting quarterback. I mean they got a run 413 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: first starting quarterback. So they went from Joe Flacco, who 414 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: literally just couldn't move but throw it a hundred yards 415 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: down the field. Was very hit or miss, but he 416 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: was the prototypical pocket quarterback to now the complete opposite 417 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of that. And then you have the Bengals, which going 418 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: through a coaching change first time and what seems like 419 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: twenty years I think Marvin Lewis was there like thirteen 420 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: or fourteen years with the guy relatively unknown and probably 421 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: their worst roster and forever. Let's start with the favorite, 422 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: the betting favorite, right, now is the Cleveland Browns at 423 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: plus one. I've been saying it over and over and 424 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I've talked about the Browns this offseason. I think that's nuts. 425 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: On paper, they are excellent. They were probably you could 426 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: make an argument best roster in football, assuming that Baker 427 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: Mayfield has like a pro bowl level season. If Baker 428 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: Mayfield's a Pro bowler, If I just if I know 429 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: that right now, I'd be like, yeah, they got the 430 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: best roster in football. But here's the thing. Football and 431 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: clearly the NFL, and same with college football. You can 432 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: argue high school too. I'm less than a mile away 433 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: from Daylyssal, Like, would they win if mirror you were 434 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: the head coach. No, they have an infrastructure there that matters. 435 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean, They're coaching is a big deal. They had 436 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: the famous coach for whatever, and then one of his 437 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: like protege's that had played there and been an assistant 438 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: took over. So we kind of would be like Josh 439 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: McDaniels taken over, but he knows the drill. So coaching 440 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: really matters, and that to me is the biggest Brown's 441 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: question mark. Because their off season they gave up nothing 442 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Frodell Beckham. They gave up an average safety pick seventeen 443 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: and a third round pick. That's the easiest trade they'll 444 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: ever make. Frodel Beckham June are one of the most 445 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: talented non quarterbacks any position in the NFL. I'm not 446 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: saying most productive. I'm just saying pure talent. They also 447 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: added Olivier Vernon because they have a ton of cap space. 448 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: That's a good, little sneaky ad uh. Huge year for 449 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I mean the first time he's gonna start 450 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: a Week one as a starting quarterback. Remember last year 451 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. We think in theory as a real coach, 452 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: but the pressure's emense. John Dorsey's egomaniac. He loves his control. 453 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I won't put him baseball level like micromanaging as a GM. 454 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you follow baseball, but Brody van Wagenen, 455 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: we'll be at home when the Mets are on the 456 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: road and we'll call the people in the clubhouse and 457 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: tell them to go tell Mickey Callaway to change pictures. 458 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're gonna do that now. The 459 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: Browns do have a history. Remember Ray Farmer a couple 460 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: of years ago got nailed texting the coaches. But I 461 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I I'm not gonna be the 462 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: first guy to betting on the Browns now. Once they 463 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: prove they can win the division, I'll bet on him 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: next year. Now the odds won't be as good, but 465 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: it just you won't find John Middlecoff jumping on that 466 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: bad in the wagon. I've gone third person now twice 467 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: in this podcast. Might be a record, but I'm not 468 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: doing that now. I do think here's the thing. I 469 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: think they they're they're over under his nine. I probably 470 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: at worst would push it or go over. I think 471 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: the win nine or ten games. The team that I 472 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: think wins this division those the Steelers plus one ninety. 473 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: The culture they got rid of one of the most 474 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: productive six year stretches we've ever seen out of any player, 475 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. He's a first bound Hall of Famer in 476 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: my opinion, he's incredible, He's awesome. But he was a 477 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: major issue from them, Like he clearly hated the quarterback. 478 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: He didn't get along with guys. It was a problem. 479 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: Uh Juju, who won't probably be as good as Antonio? 480 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel pretty confident saying you won't be 481 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: as good as Antonio but he's pretty damn good. No 482 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: team in the league draft receivers better than the Steelers. 483 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: They last year they drafted James Washington from Oklahoma State 484 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: in the second round. He should take a big jump. 485 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Obviously getting rid of Levian Bell, who actually didn't even 486 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: play last year, so it really doesn't impact them. James 487 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: Conner proved to be pretty good. They had a I 488 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: love their draft pick getting Bush, the kid from Michigan 489 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: because a couple of years ago I thought that the 490 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: best team in football that Ryan Shazier had that horrific accident. Um, 491 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: I think they're playing the Bengals that night, and you know, 492 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: I thank god he can walk again. But their defense 493 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: wasn't the same. So Bush can just be of what 494 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: Chase here was. That would be a huge, huge help 495 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: for that defense. There their front, I mean, they've been 496 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: near the lead uh NFL leaders as a total team 497 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: in sacks the last couple of years. They can pressure 498 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback, they've just been a linebacker has been a 499 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: huge hole, and big Ben in that offense will play well, 500 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: so that they would probably be my pick the Ravens. 501 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't like this team at all. 502 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm going under eight and a half. I mean, when 503 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that can't throw, I I read 504 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: flag your team, you're gonna run the wing tea. Now 505 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: you added mark Ingram. I like Marketing Ram. He's a 506 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: good player to go with Hollywood Brown, who they draft 507 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: in the first round. Another good player. Earl Thomas a 508 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: good player. Now they lost Wettle, lost d Lineman, lost 509 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: c J. Mosley, like they always lose free agents. I 510 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: don't know why Ozzy and Now. I think it's the 511 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: costa of the new GM. They refused to sign free agents. Like, hey, guys, 512 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: part of drafting. You don't just resign like Ray Lewis 513 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: and Ed Reid. You also can resign other solid players. 514 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: You guys understand the salary cap is no longer sixty million, 515 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: it's almost two hundred. Like, you can resign other guys, 516 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: but they just never resigned other guys, I mean, their 517 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: own guys. They just let them walk like good players. 518 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: They resigned their superstars, but they just don't resign like 519 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: their solid role players. You know that aren't that even 520 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: that expensive? Now, I understand c J. Mosley. I wouldn't 521 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: give him seventy five million dollars either, but god. I 522 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: mean they have led so many players over the year's 523 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: walk now part of that was Flacco's contract. Also think 524 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: that's a sneaky out for them. They just check out 525 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: their history. They love those compics. Uh. Also, I added 526 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, we'll see coming back from a broken leg. 527 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: I know he's made some comments. You know his defense 528 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: historically that he's played in, it's pretty basic. Uh, this 529 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: is easily the most complex defense he's played in, So 530 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. I just to me, there are 531 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: a six seven win team and the Bengals I can't 532 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: even begin to break down their roster. I just can't. 533 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: I don't care that they're just not very good. I 534 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: think the question is gonna be, you know, if they're 535 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: way out of it, and like October, would you trade 536 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: a J Green or Gino Atkins because they they're kind 537 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: of like an NBA team that's not gonna be good 538 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: but has some really a couple of really good players. 539 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: Uh do you trade those two guys? Because could you 540 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: get like a couple of seconds? Uh And you're like seconds, Well, 541 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, people ain't trading first for guys over 542 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: thirty years old. Especially A J has had a bunch 543 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: of injuries. Now Geno's a stud, but I have to 544 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: check how old he is. But to me that they 545 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: feel like a prime candidate for Geno Atkins a good player, 546 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: a prime candidate for you know, just kind of resetting 547 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: its thirty one years old. So yeah, just these guys 548 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: are the two best players. Just aren't spring chickens. And 549 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: then I mean the football gods did their first round 550 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: pick the offensive line and from Alabama is uh Jonah 551 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Williams Torres Pack, You're gonna miss the season. I think 552 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: it's like the second time that's happened to the Bengals 553 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: in like four years. Talk about luck. God, I wouldn't 554 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: wish that upon my worst enemy, my biggest rival. That 555 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: that's terrible. So I like the Steelers plus one ninety. 556 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: I like them and the Browns both over nine, Bengals 557 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: under six, Ravens under eight and a half. This depending 558 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: on how good. If the Browns are good and the 559 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: Steelers just what they normally are, because a solid division. 560 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Because even I don't love the Ravens, They're just not 561 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: the funnest team to play. They're always tough on defense 562 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and just you know, when you're facing the wing teeth 563 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: for the first time. You never know what's gonna hit you. 564 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: And the Bengals, I mean, it wouldn't shock me. The 565 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Bengals won't like two games. Okay, let's dive into the 566 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag before we get on due Fourth of 567 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: July festivities. Okay, how come nobody is talking about the 568 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and his diminished arm strength after the Cowboys game? 569 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: And maybe it was because the Boys provided a blueprint, 570 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: but I find it unlikely. It seemed his arm strength 571 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: was nowhere to be found and their offense was not 572 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: the same at all. He couldn't throw deep. He's older, 573 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: It's a long season, so that could be the reason, 574 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: or an injury kept quiet? Is there something in the 575 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: the people in the league are keeping secret or just 576 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: not talking about because I haven't heard much of a subject, 577 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: if at all. If I'm a Saints fan, I would 578 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: be very concerned. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean 579 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: sometimes old players maybe just ran out of gas. You know, 580 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know they were you know, a bad p 581 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I uh call in the NFC Championship game from being 582 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So and I think at the end 583 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: of the day, they probably now with Nick Foles being 584 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, have the best quarterback, have the best backup 585 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. So if you told me Teddy Bridgewater, 586 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, Drew got hurt and had to take over. 587 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Like they're still probably a playoff team. So you know, 588 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I watched obviously the Cowboys game. I actually been on 589 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Just thought it was a tough matchup. One 590 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: one thing that underrated part about the Saints last year 591 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: and this speaks to Breeze and definitely the coach. They 592 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: had two legitimate passing threats catching threats, Alvin Kamara the 593 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: running back who's remarkable, and Michael Thomas, who's a beast, 594 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: but they didn't have a second wide receiver. Tiden was 595 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of a question mark. That's it now Kamara and 596 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas a blue Chippers. So it's like you 597 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: can make up for it a little bit, but it's 598 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: not like they This wasn't, you know, the greatest show 599 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: on turf. So like you know, he just he couldn't 600 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: find anyone who's he throwing do? Uh So, I I 601 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm yet to red flag it. He's never 602 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: got a great arm. He's a guy that hangs out 603 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: on accuracy. He's not a big arm guy, so it's 604 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: it's hard for me. Like, to me, it didn't look 605 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: that much different. Big Detroit Lions fan here, and I 606 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: was wondering why most of the mainstream media never talked 607 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: about the franchise. It seems like as long as I've 608 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: been a fan, we don't get enough attention. Well because 609 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, 610 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: but your franchise kind of a relevant on the football landscape. 611 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: How many playoff games have they've won? I'm thirty four 612 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: years old, born in Did Barry ever win a playoff game? 613 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: Have the Lions won a playoff game? In my lifetime? 614 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being serious now, obviously I can't remember 615 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: the eighties, early nineties. I did they win one in 616 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: the late nineties. So you just when you always suck, 617 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: we don't talk about you talk about good teams and 618 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: you're not. It would be one thing if you were 619 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: in New York or l A or something, but you 620 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: know you're not. It's Detroit, the top ten market, so 621 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: it gets the numbers. It's all it's all based again, 622 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: not trying to be an a whole, but all this stuff, 623 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: like I know what people want to talk about. My 624 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: most listen to podcast since I've been doing one for 625 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: Colin Coward was when I lead with the New York Giants. 626 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: That was my most listen to podcast. I led with 627 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: the New York Giants talking about Daniel Jones. Now I've 628 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: only I've only done a couple of drafts, and that's 629 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: probably the most polarizing thing to happen in a draft, 630 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, since I've been doing this podcast. But it 631 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: shows you like big market resonate. There's a reason Philly, obviously, 632 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: New York and l A like the Yankees, the Lakers, 633 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Giants. Detroit's not a big team in 634 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: any of the sports becauseide college football. We we we talked 635 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: about you in Michigan football, right because historically has been good. 636 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I think it's more you just gotta win. You know 637 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: that that. I hear that all the time around here 638 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Fans like talk about us more when 639 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: if you win, we will. No one ever talked about 640 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. Then they got Steph Clay and 641 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Draymond and Kevin Durant came and that's all anyone talks 642 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: about for three years winning cures at all. So I 643 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: think you'd be best off if the four families sold 644 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: the team and Gotta got a fresh start. I like 645 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. So there's many strengths about this roster. 646 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: We got dudes in a lot of positions, but not 647 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: sure on Doc. Can you break down his game strengths weaknesses, 648 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: also what you like and don't like about him, and 649 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: what you think about him getting a contract? Well, I've 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: talked a lot about the contract. I would not pay 651 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: him right now unless you give me a team friendly deal. 652 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I would make him play out this year. I would 653 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: probably pay a mari right now because just it's more 654 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: sensible to get him under contract. I don't want to 655 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: have to franchise Dac, but if I have to do it, 656 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: I have to do it now. Ultimately, if Dacs balling 657 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: this year and Warren Flour's place, I'll extend him by 658 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: like November. His strengths are pretty obvious. Uh. He has 659 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: the size you look for. He hasn't above average arm. Uh. 660 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: He's pretty accurate to me on just the basic stuff. 661 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not ideal, but he's more than accurate 662 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: enough in the short and intermediate uh, athleticism speaks for itself. 663 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: He can make plays on the ground that may be 664 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: a handful of quarterbacks in the NFL can. To me, 665 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: his best attribute is and I don't know how you 666 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: quantify this, but there's some clutch into him, Like I've 667 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: watched him have multiple games where he just looked like 668 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: crap in the first half and he plays better in 669 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: the second half. Think how I mean, just human nature 670 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: to go into the tent when things are going against you. 671 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of what separates players, but it separates people 672 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: in life when when ship's not going your way, to 673 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: you tap out or do you keep going? Can you 674 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: just kind of stay in the right frame of mind? 675 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: To medac has that he's always played well in second 676 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: halfs of games when he started poorly. Uh, I said 677 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: his deep accuracy. Ball accuracy is probably as big as 678 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: question mark, but when Amory got there, it felt better. 679 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: And just consistency, like can he be consistently accurate against 680 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: good defenses? Uh? Can he pick you apart? Is the 681 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: growth of any young quarterback, Like can you put the 682 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: offense in his lap where he can go to the 683 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage? He can check place? Uh, he can 684 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: see a coverage and flip it. He can just take 685 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: full ownership of the offense. It's clear the smart enough. Uh, 686 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: his teammates rally around him. Like to me, all of 687 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: his positives are really off the field stuff and then 688 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: the on the field stuff that you can't really you know, 689 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: quantify when I say like the clutch team, because I 690 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: would say his arm like leaves a little to be desired, 691 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: Like he wouldn't been my favorite player coming out of 692 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Now he's a lot better than I thought 693 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: he would be. But it's just like when he gets 694 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: in a rhythm, can he just pick you apart? And 695 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not when running is not even available? Can he 696 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: just can he have a game where he goes thirty 697 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: or thirty six? And if you're paying a guy thirty 698 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: plus million dollars a year, you'd like to have that 699 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: guy have that in the bag. I'm a Dak fan 700 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: because to me, the intangible stuff matters a lot. And 701 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not talking the high character stuff like that's just yeah, 702 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: most quarterbacks are high character. I'm talking about the intangible 703 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: in a game when you're playing like crap, can it? 704 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: Can you be completely unaffected? Can you have three quarters 705 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: that look like you're an undrafted free agent, and then 706 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of throw three touchdowns. Like to me, 707 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: that's what separates really a lot of players, you know, 708 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: I've seen it for years with like Steph Curry and 709 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: Clay they can look horrendous for a long period of time. 710 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: They're unaffected by failure. And I do think I think 711 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: there's a little of that in that he's unaffected by failure. 712 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: And most humans, I mean we all you all to me, 713 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: this is somewhat of a learned attribute. Now some of 714 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: us learn it later in life. But can you overcome 715 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: when things are shitty whatever you're doing? And for Dak, 716 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: I would say, my biggest hang up is going to 717 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: be even when he overcomes that, sometimes his physical limitations, uh, 718 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's not He doesn't throw the ball like 719 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Now you can say how many weak arm 720 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have won Super Bowls in the last fifteen years. 721 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: Not that many, you know, But you can win a 722 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: lot of games with an Alex Smith. And I do 723 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: think that Dac is more physically gifted than Alex. Alex 724 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: is definitely more accurate. I think Dak has a little 725 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: more arm strength I think you canna win with Dak. 726 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: I think you can win with Dack, but I'd like 727 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: to see it for one more year. Is a roundabout 728 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: way of of kind of getting there. Deep question. It means, 729 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: it's a hard question to answer. Why does everyone so 730 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: down on the Giants. They went four and four in 731 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, in the last eight 732 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: games by less than seven points. Sake one is a beast. 733 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: Offensive line has improved, and the Patriots proved in the 734 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: playoffs that running the ball can win games. I also 735 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: think Eli is way better than everyone thinks. He just 736 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: had symbolans of an old line the last five or 737 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: six years, and he would already be a Hall of 738 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Fame walk. Yeah, I would agree. If his offensive line 739 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: had been better than the last five or six years, 740 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: he would have been, you know, hall of Fame lock. 741 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: But I can't agree that. I think. I don't think 742 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Eli is good anymore. I do I agree with you 743 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: that say Kwan is special. They replaced Odell Beckham with 744 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: Golden Tate. You know, this might not be the biggest loss, 745 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: given that Eli can just feed Golden Taint on slants 746 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: and outs all day long. To me, the question their 747 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: defense is horrendous. Just go to the two deep. Look 748 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: at their defense. It's awful. Who are they going to stop? Now? 749 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: Even if ELI saw, even if the offense throws up 750 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: some points, to me, they're six win team at best 751 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: because their defense is atrocious, absolutely atrocious. Uh, huge Derrek 752 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: Carr fan. But it's safe to say that this is 753 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: the last year in Oakland? And if so, would you 754 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: have to see from Okay, let me reread this, huge 755 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: Derek Carr fan. But is it safe to say that 756 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: this is his last year in Oakland? And if so, 757 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: what would you have to see from him for car 758 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: to keep his job? Now? You just gotta slow down 759 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. Can't read too fast, you know. Not 760 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: a Harvard grad. I would say that if they win games, 761 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: and for the Raiders seven eight wins would be pretty 762 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: good given their schedule. And if they win eight games, 763 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: that means Derek probably throws thirty five plus touchdowns. He's safe. 764 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: But if they go four and twelve, Like, if you're 765 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: going four and twelve, it's not just your defense as atrocious, 766 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: you're probably not playing that well on offense. He will 767 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: get cut. And I think this speaks for both the 768 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: too Barry. Guys Jimmy Garoppolo and Derek Carr can be 769 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: cut after this season for like a combined seven million 770 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: dollars of dead cap. I think Jimmy's three and Derek's 771 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: like four. So both those two guys have to play well, 772 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: Like if they're atrocious, if Jimmy gets hurt again, I 773 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: don't even know. But if Derek just does not play well, 774 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: then he will get cut. But if Derek plays well, 775 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: that means they will win some games, probably not make playoffs, 776 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: or schedule is just too hard, and he'll be fine 777 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: and you just keep him. You just use your two 778 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: first round picks next year on other guys. But I 779 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: I do think this is kind of a make or 780 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: break year for both guys in the Bay. Jimmy has 781 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: to prove you can stay on the field, and Derek 782 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: just has to prove that him and John are a 783 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: match made. And you know, John makes ten Derrek's makes 784 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: million dollar heaven, because I know one number that's not changing. 785 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: That's John Gruden. He's gonna be paid ten million dollars 786 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: the following season and then the following season, and that 787 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: would be four and then six more years. So he's 788 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: get times on his side. Time's not on Derek. You 789 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: got Antonio Brown, you signed Tyrone Williams, you draft the 790 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: first round running back. Uh, you know you drafted a 791 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: first round offensive tackle a year ago, which might be 792 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: a stretch, but you signed Trent Brown. You still got 793 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson, you still got Rodney Hudson, like you got players. 794 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: The time to it's time to time to prove that 795 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: that MVP guy, which I believed it. I was as 796 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: big of a Derrek fan as you will find, but 797 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of years I haven't liked what I've seen. 798 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm not writing them off, but it's you know, 799 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: it's time, the time. The time is a now, and 800 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching I I think they are 801 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: one of the They're obviously the hard Knocks team, but 802 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: just them Antonio Brown, Tyroll Williams, Gruden and car and 803 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: a good offensive line in theory again, Tom Cables involved, 804 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: So it can be a disaster at any moment, but 805 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty fired up to see it. I'm fired up 806 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: that you guys listened on the day after fourth of July, 807 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: or maybe the day after weekend of fourth of July. 808 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying it. I appreciate all your support 809 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 1: and uh throw back a few cold ones and enjoy 810 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. Enjoy the summer. That's the best time of year. 811 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: It's just the absolute best man, uh and women. God speed, 812 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: adils P.