WEBVTT - How Ironman Triathlons Work 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:05.320 Hello, Seattle, We're coming to see you and Frasier. Yep, 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.200 we're gonna come see you guys in Fraser on January six. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.440 That's a Thursday night, which is the official beginning of 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.920 the weekend in Seattle, as we all know. And we're 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.080 going to be there at our beloved More Theater, our 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.439 home in Seattle for Stuff you Should Know. That's right, everybody, January, 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.079 come out and see us. Tickets go on sale this Friday, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.439 which is November eight, and you can get all the 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.240 information about tickets at s y s K live dot 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.760 com or just go to the Moor's website as well. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.600 We'll see you guys in January. Welcome to Stuff You 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:44.800 Should Know, a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.600 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:55.960 Chuck Bryant, and there is Grandmaster Dave over there, Dave 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:01.120 C the coust Wow. Yeah, he's getting all sorts of 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.840 great great nicknames. You got anymore? Um no, no, if 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.120 that's it for now, sorry, Dave. I think what was 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.200 that two or three? It was like two and a 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.959 half at best. You know what I did this morning 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.320 for a little while yes, I do. You trained hard. No, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.399 I went through and read uh some of our negative 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.760 recent negative reviews on iTunes. Oh, I hadn't done that 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:31.280 in a while. Yeah, that's because it's mentally unhealthy. I 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.760 don't mind. I literally it's kind of good comedy for 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.360 me because I'm I'm fairly secure in year eleven that 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.800 we're doing okay. But it is always funny. Like most 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.200 of them were I had to do with politics, but 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.880 some of them were just like, these guys are so 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.200 boring and stupid. I can't believe how boring and stupid 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.920 they are. I mean, they kind of hit it on 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.400 the head with Allen. Yeah, it was good. And then 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.520 the ones that killed me are the ones that you like. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.160 They're clearly reading Wikipedia and there and read it is 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.400 their number one source. And I'm like, I've literally never 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.120 been to read it in my life. Yeah, and I 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.120 like redd it, but I don't get our ideas from it. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.960 Oh man, it's always so fun Sure. Well, I'm glad 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.239 that you did that for both of us, and you 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.440 distilled it into like a friendly, affable version. Yeah, these 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.880 guys are so dumb and boring. That was a refrain 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.040 dumb and boring. It was like interesting, we're sort of 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.160 known for being funny and smart. But I guess that's 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.760 in the eye of the list or the ear of 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.240 the listener. It totally is. I mean like, we've got 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.920 some really hardcore fans, we have some casual fans. We 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.880 have people that like us. We have people that are 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.320 just like I like what they're doing. Don't necessarily like 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.520 those guys. It doesn't matter as long as there's people 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.600 out there liking what we do. Of course, there's going 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.000 to be people out there who dislike what we do, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.160 and because it's the Internet, they're going to vehemently dislike it. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.280 But it doesn't mean anything. It's fine. They don't have 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.520 to listen. Almost like any other piece of art, culture 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.720 or media you would put out in the world. That's right. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.799 We're basically like an upside down urinal in a museum. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.840 Have you have you literally seen that? Yeah, that was 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.600 like the first piece of data art. I believe that 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.639 there was data mean, um, what does that mean exactly? 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.800 I think it was purposefully mean purpose purpose yeah, purposefully 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.520 that's right. That word for a second just suddenly didn't 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.800 sound right because you're dumb, right, am boring? Um. I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:36.880 think it's a purposefully on um meaningless word. Oh interesting, Yeah, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.920 I guess that kind of thing. Other people might find 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.320 that dumb and boring interesting. Yeah, it's a a urinal 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.560 that was upside down and then signed by the artists. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.920 I can't remember who. It was signed in urine. No, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.760 I think it was signed in uh, maybe pain or 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.960 something like that. I can't remember. Well, now we're doing 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.960 one of the third thing that people complain about, just 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.600 not getting to the point quickly enough. I think you 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.080 could call it moseying. Although it's funny as well, and 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.560 those reviews people are like they spend they literally spend 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.080 twenty minutes talking nonsense, Like, man, it's what the deal 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.080 is is five minutes seems like twenty because we're dumb 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.719 and boring. Sure, right right, but but is anybody who 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.800 really appreciate stuff you should know knows that it's a 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.000 it's a contest of endurance to see who will get 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.800 to the topic first, exactly or just just just to 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.400 make it through an episode. It's very much chuck if 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.599 you ask me, like an iron Man triathlon, you lose. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.320 Anybody who completes an episode, though, is an s Y 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.839 s K fan. That's kind of how it works. And 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.520 it's just like the way that it is with an 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.560 iron Man triathlon too. If you complete it, you're an 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.440 iron Man. If you complete it within the required amount 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.080 of time, you're right, you're right, Yes, there are rules, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.640 there are limitations, Like I guess the same thing goes 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.760 with us. If you complete the episode within seventeen hours 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.400 of beginning it, then you you Well, we did an 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:06.760 episode on marathon's um almost one year ago a little 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:11.960 more October nine, two thousand eighteen, and um, we did 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.760 a lot of joking about marathons and how we're not 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.919 into running those. So we should define here in minute 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.239 one what an iron Man race is, because an iron 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:28.040 Man race is a two point four miles swim. That's 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.800 three point nine kilometers. That's a lot. And then that's 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.760 a lot of swimming. Then they say, all right, get 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.840 out of the water, everybody, Now go ride your bike 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.200 a hundred and twelve miles right like two days later though, right, no, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.599 right afterwards? What a hundred and eighty point three kilometers? 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.640 And then when you're done with that, they say, all right, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.960 who wants to run a marathon? And then people like 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.480 us or most people. I think in the world. Probably 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.440 the people in the world think what is wrong with 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.880 you people? Yeah, and not a half marathon, quarter marathon, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.400 tenth of a marathon, a full twenty six point two 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:10.400 mile marathon more than forty two kilometers on it. And 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.320 all of this by the way, um, if you're at 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.520 the World Championships is taking place in the lava fields 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:20.440 of ConA, Hawaii, where it's very hot. Yeah. Good coffee too, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.640 it is, Okay. I guess I'm not a huge on 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.640 ConA coffee. Okay. Did you hear there was once a 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.880 coffee heist in Hawaii where somebody somehow stole something like 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.760 two million dollars worth of either a million or two 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.240 million dollars worth of ConA coffee beans. That sounds like stuff, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.360 it does. Maybe we should do that something great cut 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:46.120 ConA coffee heist. Yep, there's your title of six. Is 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.880 that what it was? I don't know, but it sounded 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.960 pretty good. Okay. That's the other big complaint on iTunes 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.800 is that we just make up facts. That's true, right, 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.880 So I think you kind of laid it out there. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.040 Three big reasons why you and I will never do 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.800 Iron Man triathlons, swimming, the biking, in the running, that's right, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.600 that's right. But all of them combined too. That's why 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.880 if you put all of them together, you understand why 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.880 the iron Man has this kind of aura of just 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.720 just all among athletes. Because the people who participate in 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.160 these are the fittest of the fit, that they have 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:26.440 the greatest endurance of any other athlete around, especially ones 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.600 who make it to the championships in Hawaii. UM, and 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.400 it has like kind of a mystique. And here's the thing. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.720 The term iron Man is gender neutral. So wherever you 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.280 fall on the gender spectrum and you complete the race, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.080 that's an important part of this. Well, yeah, you will 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:48.000 be called an iron Man. And I guess if you 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.640 are collective you have a bunch of people who have 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.120 completed an iron Man race, that would be called iron men. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.680 But if you're talking about different iron Man races collectively, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.840 because they have them all over the world. Now I 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.640 believe they have two sixty races a year and forty 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.680 four different countries that are official iron Man races, um, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.560 you would call those iron Man's. That's right. I love 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.040 the little glossary in this particle. Up next, we'll talk 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.400 about whether you call your desktop mouse a mice or me. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.120 So the iron Man race is, uh, we're gonna get 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.520 into some of the history here. It's a it's a triathlon, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:29.840 and there there were triathlons before the iron Man competition. Yeah, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.200 I think starting a few years before the first iron Man, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.800 so it actually kind of caught hold pretty quick. But technically, um, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.960 a triathlon can be any three sports. But when you 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.600 say triathlon and then that you follow that up with yeah, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.120 I'm gonna play some basketball, toss the football around, and 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.600 then maybe take a few swings with the tennis racket, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.200 you'd be like, that's three three disparate sports. People are 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.880 gonna say you're you're weird because when you hear triathlon, uh, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.480 in this new not new, but I guess fairly nuisance 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.480 is seventies. You're really talking about swimming, cycling, and running, right, 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.920 not necessarily in that order whatever, But as long as 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.000 those three are together, you're that's a triathlon. And the 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.520 first triathlon, from what we understand, came out of San Diego, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.680 actually from the San Diego Track Club who put the 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.040 first one together in nineteen four, and it just so 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.480 happened that in that In that first triathlon in nineteen 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.360 seventy four, there was a guy named John Collins who 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.920 was an officer in the Navy, who said, hey, this 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.280 is kind of fun and ended up being stationed from 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.719 San Diego to Hawaii in yeah, really put in a 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.120 terrible life. He was just chasing UFOs in San Diego. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.040 Next thing you know, he's sipping my ties on the 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.079 beach in Honoluh. But we do think him for a service. Sure, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.360 so um, John Collins ends up in Hawaii's like, hey, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.840 hey you you uh Rubes, you Hicks. I've got a 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.280 great idea. It's gonna blow your blow your heads off. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.520 You're ready a triathlon And everyone said what's that? Yeah, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.600 because Hawaii already had it, had it going, except not 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.160 all combined. It had endurance sports, so there was obviously 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.680 always marathon, so Honolulu Marathon. There was something called the 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.800 Waikiki Rough Water Swim. Have you ever been to Waikiki? 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.440 I've never been to Hawaii. Man, man, you gotta go. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.400 It's really a wonderful place. It's Uh. Emily and I 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.400 were talking about going away for a birthday weekend and 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.920 just you can't do Hawaiian a weekend from Atlanta. No, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.000 it's a long, it's a little too long. Yeah, Savannah 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.599 is much more realistic. Sure, it's the Hawaii of the southeast. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.600 That's right, it's that everyone tell you. Uh. And then 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.719 they had something called the around Oahu bike Ride, And 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.880 so as at endurance athletes like to do, and all 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.640 athletes I like to get together and tease each other 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:48.160 about who's the best athlete. Uh. The NASCAR guys are 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.880 always there saying we're athletes too, sure, right, And they 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.959 always get tickled by the football guys like stop, stop, 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.120 you're not really athletes who drive a car. So I 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.960 think my brother and I actually had one of our 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.320 rare arguments about the NASCAR guys being athletes. It's better 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.560 than that stupid thing about a hot dog being a 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.440 sandwich or not. Well. And when I say argument, as 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.440 much as my brother and I get into arguments, which 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.240 is me saying, hey, I'm not in a NASCAR but 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.400 these guys are athletes, my brothers saying not will buy it. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.800 And then we say let's go play ping pong. Yeah, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.160 you guys are like, well this is getting out of hand. Piece, brother, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.200 let's reconcile with some ping pong. So Collins, all this 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.640 arguing was going on about who was the most fit, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.959 and uh, he said, you know what, let's let's throw 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.040 all these together, like you said, we'll call it the 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:40.920 iron Man. And in there were twelve finishers. I'm not 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.080 sure how many people entered that race, but twelve people 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.600 finished it and were named iron Men, right, and they 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:53.120 all got little handmade iron Um statuettes or whatever. Yeah, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.520 it was. It was kind of a thing. And that 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.400 first Iron Man it was really crazy, like one guy 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.600 ran out of water and so everybody had to have 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.520 their own support staff with with them, like supplying the 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.160 water and stuff like that. Before they had people along 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.000 the route. Yes, and one guy named Dunbar. I can't 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.040 remember his first and but he was in the first competition. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.280 Was probably he ran out or his support staff ran 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.880 out of water, so he towards the end of the marathon, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.520 he he had nothing to drink. But Budweiser, shut up, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.000 I'm not kidding John Collins, who was the guy who 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.559 brought it to Hawaii. He stopped for a bull of 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.480 chili at one point to refuel. Yeah, it was nuts, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.880 but it was just basically like some some crazy athletic 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.400 military guys just having fun a bowl of chili which 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.400 is in draft behind me ad area, right exactly. I 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.959 mean you just eat it and it just passed right 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.520 through your mouth and out of your rectum right onto 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:51.120 the street. You know. So. Um. But this first one 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.160 was it was fun, it was crazy. But there's this 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.440 um ongoing dispute to this day. I read, I think 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.920 in an article in the New York Times that is 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.760 that said that, UM, in the rule book, if you 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.000 ran in that first or you just paid into that 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.640 first iron Man competition, part of the entry fee was 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.360 agreeing to sign on to be the organizing committee for 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.400 the iron Man and UM, they put that in there 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.960 to basically say, like, if you sue, you're actually suing 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.160 yourself too. So you probably don't want to sue if 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.640 you get injured or fall over, drop that or something. UM. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.079 But some people, including Dunbar, have interpreted that to mean 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.360 that they were part owners of iron Man, which has 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.880 now become like a billion dollar global franchise, and the 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.720 people in charge of like, now you you don't have 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.319 anything to do with that. You know, you can get sued, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.200 but you can't reap the benefits, right, exactly, but it was. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:45.959 It was a pretty interesting article. I can't remember what 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.760 it's called, but it's it's worth looking up. I thought 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.920 so too. So uh soon after this, it started to 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.839 become a media event in that um we've talked before 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.160 about the greatest show sports show in the his three 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.960 of sports shows, which was ABC's Wide World of Sports Fantastic. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.760 I never really watched it. I was always like, this 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.040 means cartoons are over for this Saturday. Man. I loved it. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.240 I mean that's where, you know, as a kid in 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.720 the eighties you got introduced to ski jumping and curling 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.680 and iron manning and but that was sort of the 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.880 deal if you never watched that show, is it was 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.960 the Wide World of Sports, so that it wasn't just 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.960 it was you know, lumberjack competitions and all these sort 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.200 of to the to the side sports that you had 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.760 never heard of before. It was pretty cool fringe sports. Yeah. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.200 Sports Illustrated started covering it, which was a big deal. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.640 That was that really gave it a shot in the 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.280 arm because that was the second the second one, and 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.600 Sports Illustrated did like a ten page spread on it 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.160 basically and really gathered attention for it. And there's still 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.320 one of the top sports rags. But back then they 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.120 weren't the only one, but they were sort of the 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.920 name in sports writing for sure, so it was a 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.440 big deal. I had a subscription for many, many, many years. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.640 And then came the Swimsuit Issue, and You're like, no, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.000 he has nothing to do with sports. I looked forward 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.520 to that so often as a young church boy. Sure, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.360 ladies in their bathing suits. What was better than that? 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.080 As far as I knew, it's sports. So I remember 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.440 my first issue to still it was Muhammad Ali was 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.960 on the cover, believe it or not, of the swimsuit issue. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:23.960 Was it the one where he's standing over is it 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.920 Joe Frasier? No, no, no, no, this was after that. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:31.040 This was in his sort of sad last comeback attempt. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.480 I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, when he was older, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.440 he you know, he kind of boxed beyond his prime. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.680 Oh I didn't know that, because I'm not seventy years old. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.480 He realized, sure, So I just did the math. I 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.640 was like, I have Chuck likes this one passed by, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.960 but I mean Joe Frasier, No, that was before my time. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.040 But yeah, just for some reason that always sticks out. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.760 Is the cover said, uh, look who's back Muhammad Ali 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.160 and then parentheses with mustache. I want to say, I 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.880 want to stay here, everybody. Chuck does not have this 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.640 cover in front of him right now. From memory, totally 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.320 from memory, it's impressive. I saved all those for many years, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.640 and then I think my mom finally got rid of him. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.920 I had just an attic full of sports illustrated you 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.160 know what you mean. But I saved the bathing suit issues. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:25.160 Sure those you had like a air event cover that 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:32.760 you could just pull off the wall at a false floor. Um. Alright, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.600 So back to the event. It's being covered by the 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.120 media and with within just a few years after that, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.240 people started entering the race. More and more people saw 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.000 it on TV. They're like, hey, I'm an extreme athlete, 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.680 I'm gonna get into this. And it grew to the 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.160 point where they moved it finally in N two, it's uh, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.160 it's now home forever home in Kona, Hawaii. If you're 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.720 talking the World Championship, right, and can we talk for 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.240 a second about Julie Moss here, because she pretty much 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:08.000 single handedly launched iron Man into the status, the legendary 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:12.080 status that it has today. Very soon after it was originated. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:19.280 She was a kidnesiology student at UM. I think cal Pouli, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.480 san Luis Obispo, Did I say that? Right? I don't know. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.880 You just sound so sure of yourself. Well you lived 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.360 in California, so I didn't know if I just San 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.879 Luis Obispo I said that, that's what I said. Yeah, okay, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:38.040 Well anyway, she was a kindnesiology student. No, it's not 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.720 okay UM, and her dissertation was participating in the iron 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.639 Man um competition in Hawaii, and so she went and 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.800 she ran, and she could not believe it. But all 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.280 of a sudden she's in front. She's an elite, she's 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.919 barely trained for this thing. She'd done some running before, 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.439 and now all of a sudden, she's winning the fourth 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.879 ever iron Man competition. And um, as she got like 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.360 within something like forty yards of some ridiculously short distance 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.240 from the finish line, after she'd swam, biked, and run 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:17.920 almost an entire marathon, her body gave out and she 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.919 she you did on the Wide World Sports. It was 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.639 being covered on the Wide World Sports. Twenty million people 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:28.560 were watching, and Julie Moss collapsed and then crawled across 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.919 the finish line to finish second. She was lapped, and 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.199 I think the winner, her name was Kathleen McCartney. Kathleen 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.080 McCartney was was what had to be told that she 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.639 just won. She didn't realize what had just happened. She's like, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.639 you mean that person I just stepped on a run 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.600 My shoe, my waffle print shoe mark is on their 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.840 backs though. Um, but Julie Moss like just became just 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.720 an amazingly like celebrated sports figure overnight from showing this 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.560 kind of grit and determination and it became like kind 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.680 of a hallmark of the iron Man competition that people 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.840 would collapse and then crawl over the fish finish line 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.080 because it required that much of the human body, but 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.080 also because they were that determined to reach that goal. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.680 And um, that was it for the iron Man. It 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.680 just became hugely popular overnight, and you were talking about 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:23.080 how how much participation grew. I saw that. Um. In 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.119 two the year Julie Moss entered, there were sixty people 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.120 who entered four hundred triathlons, not necessarily iron Man competitions. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:38.320 In three years, one point one million people competed in triathlons, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.320 so she definitely boosted the popularity a tadbit. Well, why 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.399 don't we take a break and we'll come back and 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.639 talk a little bit about the science of why UM 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.280 people other than Julie Moss pass out right when they 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.400 get to the finish line. So it sounds good, yes, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.760 all right, So you sent me a little article, UM 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.920 why endurance athletes UM struggle there at the very end 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.800 aside from the obvious, So what they're doing is super hard, 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.600 But it turns out that it's uh there, it's overheating largely, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.879 isn't it. So there's a great debate like either they 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.320 run out of fuel like they're there, they basically just 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.240 use up all of their stores of energy and they 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.119 just their body can't go on any longer, or um, 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.760 they have overheated. Is that this is what this article 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.240 is basically saying in Outside magazine. The other big one 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.520 is that the lactic acid or in particular, the hydrogen 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.919 ions have built up in the muscle and are causing 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.800 cramping and everything going, Hey, why are but this guy 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:05.080 Brent Ruby, who's a physiologist at University of Montana, he's 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.000 basically saying, no, all of it comes down to overheating. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.520 And at this point, like your body enters a shutdown 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.280 mode where your brain is like, okay, lights out, I'm 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.399 not gonna let you lift your foot any longer, Like 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.120 you physically can't do that with your muscle because I'm 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.600 not allowing it. Yeah, because the brain, uh, he says, 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:28.320 is is sending you these messages a lot before this happens, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.919 like stop, stop doing what you're doing. You better stop, 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.280 You better stop. If you don't stop, I'm gonna stop 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.880 for you. Uh. And this is not necessarily dehydration either, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.199 like he said, you can be plenty hydrated and drinking 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.440 tons of water. Um, but you know that the heat 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.840 at some of these Iron Man's is pretty punishing, and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.240 especially he said, after you've done the swimming event, which 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.560 can keep the temperature down obviously because the water and 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.040 then the cycling where you've got a lot more breeze generally, 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.480 especially coming out of swimming, so your perspiration is is 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.720 doing a better job of cooling you off. Yeah, but 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.600 when you get to that marathon, that that final leg 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.520 it can be pretty brutal, and eventually your body, after 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.560 sending all those messages, just says you're not listening to me, 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.600 so we're we're going down right, and like your your 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:19.160 your movements become uncoordinated, your like your actual brain might 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.480 start malfunctioning as well, where it's just you're not thinking 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.840 clearly any longer. You become distracted. Like if you've ever 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.520 watched it's actually it's it's really weird to watch these things. 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.040 But there's plenty of like finish line footage from Ironman 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.919 competitions of of these some of the some of the 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.920 fittest athletes on the planet. Collapsing before the finish line, 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.639 like collapsing after the finish line is one thing. Collapsing 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.719 before they get to the finish line because their bodies, 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.240 their brains have said, um, this is it. I'm done 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.640 you you haven't listened, So I'm just taking charge here 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.520 and you can't. I'm not letting you move any longer 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.840 because you need to cool down. Yeah, I wonder too 0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:01.080