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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys in January. Welcome to Stuff You

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Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W.

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Speaker 1: C the coust Wow. Yeah, he's getting all sorts of

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Speaker 1: that's it for now, sorry, Dave. I think what was

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Speaker 1: I went through and read uh some of our negative

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Speaker 1: and because it's the Internet, they're going to vehemently dislike it.

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Speaker 1: So the iron Man race is, uh, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: it's probably related to having set such a lofty goal

423
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: that once you achieve it, like life kind of loses

424
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: its luster for a little while. Other people think that

425
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: your brain is sending you depression so that you have

426
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: no will to get out there and try that again

427
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Both of them make a lot of sense,

428
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a combination of the two. Interesting. So

429
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: iron Man, uh, iron Man's started growing and growing the

430
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: World Championship in Kona, and they have championships we should

431
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: point out in on most continents um they have their

432
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: own championship, like the African Championship, South American, European, Right,

433
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: but the World Championship is the Hawaii one. Yeah, that's

434
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: still the one in Kona, and the entries there are

435
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: limited and generally unless you win the lottery, which is

436
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: only about five people, you have earned your way in

437
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: by qualified rying in another sanction iron Man event, right,

438
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: And I actually saw that they did away with the lottery. Yeah,

439
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen was last year they did it. And

440
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: it was a really great thing because you could pay

441
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: fifty bucks to enter a lottery and to win a

442
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: slot five hundred. There were five hundred slots, like you said,

443
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: and if you because you might not qualify because to

444
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: qualify for Hawaii you literally have to be one of

445
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: the most fittest, most well trained athletes on the planet

446
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: we're talking out of, you know, tens of thousands of

447
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: of people who are like possibly able to reach the state.

448
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: You're fifteen hundred of those people. This lottery gave people

449
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: who wanted to give it a try but weren't professional

450
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: endurance athletes a chance to get in there. So it

451
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: was a great program. But at the same time, the

452
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: federal government said, actually, what you're doing is running an

453
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: illegal gambling operation. We want you to shut it down.

454
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: So the iron Man had had to stop doing the lottery.

455
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: Now they have something called the Legacy program, which says

456
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: that if you've competed or completed I believe in twelve

457
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Ironman competitions that aren't the Championship, you UM can apply

458
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: to get a legacy slot, where they're basically saying like,

459
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: this is what we're trying to encourage, so come on

460
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: and try your hand at the World championships. So they

461
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: renamed the lottery the Legacy But I think the difference

462
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: is that you don't pay for that opportunity. Now I

463
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: got you, I think. Uh. They eventually added UM triathlons

464
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: to the Olympics. Uh, and we'll get to different distances. See,

465
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: certainly don'tant knock Olympic triathletes, but no, but I could

466
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: complete one. It's nothing like the Iron Man. Let's just

467
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: say that it's it's much shorter. It's smaller, for sure,

468
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: But if you're talking iron Man, it starts out with

469
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: a swimming leg. And as we said earlier, that's the

470
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: two point four miles swim. And how how do you

471
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: pronounce that? Well, Hawaiian, you say all of the all

472
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: of the vowels. I think, so okay, kailua kona bay. Yeah,

473
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: I think you just nailed it. Man, we'll see okay.

474
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: And uh, it depends on the water temperature whether or

475
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: not you're allowed to wear a wet suit. But um,

476
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: the wet suit gives you a little bit of a

477
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: buoyancy advantage, so I think the uh, well, I'm not

478
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: going to get in the head of try athletes, but

479
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: it was me. I would hope for a little bit

480
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: colder water so I could wear my wet suit. Plus

481
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: it would keep you cooler too, Right, But if the

482
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: water is warmer than you don't need the wet suit,

483
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, you can just swim naked,

484
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: I think, is what you're saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.

485
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: So the I was reading about, you know, UM injuries

486
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: and death was just talk about a little more. But

487
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: the swim leg sounds like it would be not the easiest,

488
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: but maybe the most comfortable because you're in the water,

489
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, you can sweat while you're swimming and all

490
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: of that, but at least you're staying cool. But supposedly

491
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: something like that, somebody did a study of UM deaths

492
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: between I think two thousand team in triathlons, not just

493
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Iron Man, and they found that of a hundred and

494
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: thirty five deaths sudden deaths and heart attacks and stuff,

495
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: ninety of those took place in the swim leg. And

496
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: they think, possibly possibly that people are so amped up

497
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: about participating in this Iron Man that once they start

498
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: exercising in the water, they just have a heart attack.

499
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: And these are people who are in the fittest possible

500
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: state they can be in and they're still dying of

501
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: heart attacks at age forty or something like that. Well,

502
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: they staggered the beginning, obviously, like most races and foot races, UM,

503
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: they stagger them in the water because you can't just

504
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: throw all those people in the ocean at once, Um,

505
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: your pros are going to start out first again like

506
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: most road races, uh, foot races. But if you're non professional,

507
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess everyone in there is professional now then, is

508
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: what you're basically saying, right almost everybody? Yeah? Okay? Uh?

509
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: And then you finish the swimming leg hopefully unless you

510
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: dive a heart attack, right, And then you go to

511
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: what's called T one, the first transition area, and that's

512
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: where where you you change your clothes and you put

513
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: on your clothes for the next thing, which in this

514
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: case is biking. Uh. They try to make it where

515
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: it's a loop, so there's only one transition area, so

516
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: you you finish the bike race where you started, and

517
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: that's where you will also start the run. But I

518
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: love this one line in the article here how stuff works.

519
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Racers must find their bike in rows of bracks with

520
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: hundreds of other bikes. That sounds like part of the

521
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: game almost the way it's written right, right, And they

522
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: call the transition period the transition point where if you

523
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: can't find your bike the TS point. No, they don't know.

524
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Don't you remember where you put your bike? Or did

525
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: they mix them up? Is that part of the fun?

526
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I put it here, man, I

527
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: put it here. I don't know. Surely somebody's accidentally taking

528
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: somebody's bike, So I mean, but how would you identify

529
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: who took your bike so you could take their bike

530
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: like you'd just be I don't know how you would

531
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: do that, because it would be a a jam if

532
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: somebody took your bike, because you're apparently the bike leg

533
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: is where you're doing the most other stuff like eating, refueling,

534
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, So you probably have a significant

535
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: amount of like calories that you're planning on consuming on

536
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: your bike that you've been training to eat during this

537
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: race all this time. So if somebody takes your bike,

538
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: they're taking more than just your bike, they're taking your fuel.

539
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: It would be a big deal. I'm sure. So I

540
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: don't know how they how they keep up with that

541
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing and prevent that from happening. And that's

542
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: where you have your Netflix cued up on your phone

543
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: that's mounted on the front of your bike, that's right,

544
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: so you can watch a couple of movies. Yeah, that's

545
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of miles, a hundred plus miles. Yeah,

546
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: and I saw it something like the average completion time

547
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: for this bike leg is something like six hours, although

548
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: they give you ten. Yeah, that's that's the bulk of

549
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: the iron Man, it's the biking part. Yeah, because it's

550
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: a hundred something miles. Yeah, I'm fine with a hundred

551
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: something because I'll never come even remotely close to it. Uh.

552
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: And depending on what Iron Man course you're on or

553
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: what triathleon you're you're participating in, the train is gonna

554
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: be um a little worse or better depending on where

555
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: you are. Apparently in Kna it's pretty rough because of

556
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: the winds and they can just flat knock you off

557
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: of a bike. Well. Plus you're also going through active

558
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: lava fields, so the winds are blowing like a furnace

559
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: of hot air onto you while you're biking. Geez. Yeah,

560
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: it's brutal, this terrible thing to do. Like you have

561
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: to be insane to try this kind of thing, especially

562
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: the championships. Yeah. So, like we mentioned, you do have

563
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: seventeen hours to finish, and after that, even if you finish,

564
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: which is a great accomplishment, you're not dubbed an iron Man,

565
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: which is kind of sad. So there's so there's something

566
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: called the Midnight Finish where people who have completed the

567
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: run and like you know, started to feel sore and

568
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: have eaten and started drinking beer and everything afterward. Um

569
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: probably just Michaelo Ultra though I'm sure um they will

570
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: go around midnight to see the very last people coming

571
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: through in that's great, and it's supposed to be super

572
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: inspirational because these are people who, as far as the

573
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: iron Man site describes that, they're like, just getting to

574
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: the Iron Man to compete has probably been a tremendous

575
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: amount of um, has really been struggle. And so these

576
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: people are finishing one way or another. So I guess

577
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: people who have already finished are there to kind of

578
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: cheer them on. That's awesome. Uh, and we'll talk more

579
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: about this later. But there are people with prosthetic limbs

580
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: and uh, wheelchair athletes that complete this stuff. In this one,

581
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: well we'll talk about the father and son team, which

582
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: is just incredible, but we're gonna save that, right, So

583
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: people stick around through the dumb and boring, right. So,

584
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: and that's right. Uh, you are not allowed to draft,

585
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: like in some bike races drafting just like NASCAR, you

586
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: can get behind a another biker and cut down on

587
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: win resistance. But In most of the iron in man

588
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: competitions that is not allowed, and there was one case

589
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: in eighty six where a race winner, Patricia uh punt

590
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: House was disqualified for drafting. Is that how you say

591
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: your name Puntos? I want to say like punchius, like

592
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: punchos pilot, but that's not right pu in t o

593
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: u s. Yeah, I think you got it. I'm just

594
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna go with the standard punt House. I'm gonna go

595
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: with the Hawaiian pronunciation and say Puntos, maybe punch choose.

596
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: That's good, punch choose, punch joose. I like that the

597
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: most so far, and then you can win money. Um.

598
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: I looked up the World Championships and I think there's

599
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: like a a six d and fifty thousand dollar total

600
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: purse and it looks like is it a hundred and

601
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: fifty grand for each male and female winner? Uh? Yeah,

602
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: somewhere around there's something like a hundred and fifteen or

603
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty or something like that. But I mean, like,

604
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: if you are you know, a high um how I

605
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: end elite triathlete? Yeah, ranking, yeah, yes, whatever you want

606
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: to call. If you're like the best of the best,

607
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: you can make a decent living doing this, and this

608
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: is like what you want to do anyway, so you

609
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: can certainly make enough to you know, make it from

610
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: triathlon to triathlon. You're like you. If you're not literally

611
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: the best of the best, you're not ever going to

612
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: get rich off of it. But if you are up there,

613
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: and especially if you're visible and people like you, in

614
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: addition to the um purses that you'll win for winning

615
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: these triathlons, um you will also get sponsorships as well,

616
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: so you can make a pretty decent living being uh

617
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: an elite triathlete. But I saw, for example, there's this

618
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: guy right now, um Jan ferdan No. He is from Germany,

619
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and he is as good as as they've ever come

620
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: as far as male competitors go. And in two thousand

621
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: and fifteen from purses from winning events over five events,

622
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: he made two hundred thousand dollars, which is a pretty

623
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: decent living for competing in five iron Men or iron

624
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Man's um. The guy who made the most that year

625
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: from winnings was a guy named Javier Gomez. He won

626
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: two seven thousand, which is really even better, but he

627
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: had to compete in fourteen Ironman's to to make that

628
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: so I think the real cheese is in the sponsorship. Yeah,

629
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: and I think fourteen. Like, I don't think they recommend

630
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: you do that many. No more than one a month

631
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: is not recommended. But we need to talk about this

632
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: guy named James Lawrence. Then if we're talking about doing that,

633
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: you're ready. How many has he done? In two thousand fifteen,

634
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: my friend James Lawrence, also known as the Iron Cowboy,

635
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: competed in fifty iron Man's in fifty states in fifty days.

636
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Over the course of fifty consecutive days, he competed in

637
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: fifty iron Man's and iron Man a day for fifty days.

638
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: They should just call him the Ultimate iron Man and

639
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: just shut everything else down. They did. They're gonna shut

640
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: it down because again, it's pretty lucrative, but they did.

641
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: They just basically said, there's no no one could ever

642
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: top that. That's insane. Like the fact that he's still

643
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: alive is really impressive. That is amazing. Yeah, he was

644
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: eating like six seven thousand calories so I'm sorry, seven

645
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to eight thousand calories a day every morning he said

646
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: his toenails are falling off. Um, Like he was like, yeah,

647
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: it was impressive to say the least that he did that. Yeah,

648
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: what's going on in his brain? I don't know. He

649
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: really doesn't like himself. Uh, should we take another break?

650
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another break and then we will

651
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: do the very unlikely thing where and Josh and I

652
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: will talk about how to train for a triathlon right

653
00:36:40,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: after this. Okay, Chuck, we should probably qualify. This was

654
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: saying like, we're gonna tell you how to train from

655
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: stuff we've read about training, not from any life experience. No. Uh,

656
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to train, and we did the same

657
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: thing in the Marathons podcasts, we're not experts. But here's

658
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: what they say. Experts do say if you're going to

659
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: train for a triathlon, especially an iron man, you're gonna

660
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: need to take your time. If you've never done it.

661
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: It could be an entire year of training if you're

662
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: new to this kind of stuff, And they say generally,

663
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: obviously you need to really build your endurance up, not

664
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: worry about your speed yet. Yes, well that's a that's yes, Yeah,

665
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: that's just point one. Is your training for endurance. You're

666
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: training to increase what's called your v O to max,

667
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: which is the amount of oxygen you can take in

668
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: and and your body used to burn fuel. Right, You're

669
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: also gonna need to rest, even though you really really

670
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: want to do this and you're super fired up to train.

671
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: If you don't, you gotta rest and give your body

672
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: a chance to recover. Right, that's a big one. I

673
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: think that that's just like your body is going to

674
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: tell you to do that regardless. They say, trained to

675
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: your weakness. So this is surprising to me, but it

676
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: makes sense when you think about it. Yeah, Like if

677
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: you're if you run marathons or long distance bike races

678
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: and you're used to that and you're good at that,

679
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: and you think, hey, I want to add these other

680
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: two things, then maybe work on those other two things

681
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more, at least in the earlier part

682
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: of your training. Right, But as you get a little

683
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: closer to time, you want to go back to your

684
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: strength and remember to boost that up again. You can't

685
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: forget about running that twenty six miles, right, Oh, I

686
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: haven't done a marathon and over a year I've just

687
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: been biking and swimming, and now it's time to run

688
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: a marathon after biking and swimming. That's not a situation

689
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: you want to be in. That's right. Uh, and then

690
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean these last ones are kind of kind of

691
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: dumb and boring. Well no, no more dumb and boring

692
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: than us. I guess this makes sense. Use the equipment

693
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: it that you're going to use at the event. So like, right,

694
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: don't switch bikes before or or for god's sakes, don't

695
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: switch out your speed Oh right, you want to wear

696
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: your lucky speedo that you haven't washed all year. Um,

697
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: so that makes sense. Also, this is a grab store article,

698
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: we should say, and Ed makes a pretty good point,

699
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: like you need to train just to be able to

700
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: start training for the Iron Man, Like this is this

701
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: is not it's not something you just start where you

702
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: go from like couch to iron Man. There's that doesn't exist.

703
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. You want to like start to

704
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: get in shape first and then you can start training

705
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: for the Iron Man. And it makes a pretty good point.

706
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: And I think it's worth saying here, Um, talk to

707
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: a doctor first, especially if you're not in the best

708
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: shape or you know you have an existing medical condition,

709
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't realize this, like yes,

710
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: it's crazy what the body goes through and that you know,

711
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: these are amazing feats of endurance, but it's possible. There

712
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: is some biology or biological science that says, at actually,

713
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: if you're engaging in endurance sports over time, you're actually

714
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: more likely to do things like die of a heart

715
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: attack or get pancreatic cancer than somebody who doesn't participate

716
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: in endurance sports. And science is a little bit confounded

717
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: by this. Yeah, there was one study out of the

718
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: University of Toronto that said endurance athletes are three to

719
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: five times likelier to experience atrial fibrilation. UM. There was

720
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: one out of Norway, which is probably what you were

721
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: talking about. It says you're two times uh at the

722
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: risk of developing pancreatic cancer. That's I mean twice as likely. Yeah,

723
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're saying they think what happens is that

724
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: And they did blood test to people, um like the

725
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: beginnings and during the middle and at the end, and

726
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: they said they think your body goes into sort of

727
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: a temporary state of immunosuppression and that if you just

728
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: if you keep doing this over and over, it could

729
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: have an overall cumulative effect. Yeah, because your inflammation is

730
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: so set off, because your body is like what is

731
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: going on, um, Their inflammation markers from one test I

732
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: saw are up like two fifty percent over just normal

733
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: resting rate. And they think that your immune system stands

734
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: back because if it over if it tried to deal

735
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: with all of the different inflammation going on, it would

736
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: over exert itself and you'd be toasted in a different way.

737
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: So they think that all of this damage from inflammation

738
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: and then a lowered immune response to the inflammation creates

739
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: these prolonged problems that only endurance athletes can can experience.

740
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Have you heard of doubling? No, So there are endurance

741
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: athletes that practice doubling, and there's specifically people who do

742
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: do it's called the Double Boston, which is they get

743
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and they run

744
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: the Boston Marathon in reverse and then stop at the

745
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: finish at stop at finish at the start line, and

746
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: then run the regular marathon. I actually have and I think, um,

747
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: I ran across that as well. And I think we

748
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: should do like an episode on ultrathons there ultra marathons,

749
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: because there are some crazy stuff that goes into that too.

750
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like you know, let's run the hundred and

751
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: twenty miles through the desert, right, which is that's a

752
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: terrible idea, but people do it, and I think it's

753
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: worth talking about. Yeah, people used to do that in

754
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: biblical days to deliver messages of war, but like not

755
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: for fun, Yeah, not for fun. And they would always

756
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: drop dead upon delivering the message. It seems they go

757
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: it's and then fall over dead, and somebody else would

758
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: say Monty Python's flying circus message for you, sir. Uh. So,

759
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: there are no statistics from the U s A t

760
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: um but Ed picked out a sixteen year old statistic

761
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: from the Lake Placid iron Man and said that this

762
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: was a low number of injuries where they sent fourteen

763
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: people to the hospital from everything from just standard injuries

764
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: to your body to obviously heat exhaustion and dehydration and

765
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And like even when you're when you

766
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: complete this without injuries and without collapsing before the finish

767
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: line or whatever, what you're putting your body through is

768
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: just astounding. Um, you burned something like about six thousand

769
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: calories throughout the day of competing in this Ironman competition,

770
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: and um, you'll replenish a lot of it from like

771
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: sports drinks and energy drinks and stuff, but you lose

772
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: about twenty pounds of water weight about nine kilograms of

773
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: water weight during the course of running and or competing

774
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: in an iron Man. It is literally amazing that that

775
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: happens to the human body, and that people do that

776
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: on purpose, and that there are people out there who

777
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: have trained at this so long and have built up

778
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: their endurance so much that they can overcome their bodies

779
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: normal biological responses to slowing down, to sending cramps to

780
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: the muscles, to basically keep your motor functioning from from

781
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: going forward as much as you wanted to. They can

782
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: overcome this stuff, but sometimes to their own detriment, which

783
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: results in collapsing and things like that. Well, we mentioned

784
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: earlier the uh, the paltry little Olympic Triathlon, and and

785
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: we're kidding, but when you look at the distances, it

786
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: is not close to an iron Man. It is a

787
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: point nine three mile swim one and a half kilometers, yeah,

788
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: which is I guess why they settled on that, because

789
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what a weird right, why not just

790
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: go a mile? But there? What's this weird imperial exactly? Uh?

791
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: And then that's followed by a twenty four point eight

792
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: six mile fort kometer bike ride and then only a

793
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: six point to one or a ten kilometer run, right,

794
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: which is again I could do that. I mean that's

795
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: twenty miles shorter on the run side and eighty you know,

796
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: close to eighty miles shorter or yeah, a little more

797
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: actually on the on the bike side, and then about

798
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: little less than half on the swim side, right, which

799
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: again is why people have say like the iron Man

800
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: itself is just the endurance sport of endurance sports, and

801
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: the iron Man in Hawaii in particular is like the

802
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: pinnacle of it. So if you complete the iron Man,

803
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: especially if you win the iron Man Championship in Hawaii,

804
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: you're you're as bad as they come. Yeah. I like

805
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the sprint one though, the sprint triathlon, Uh, it's a

806
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: depending on which one it is either like anywhere from

807
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: point three to one miles in the water, eight on

808
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: a bike, and then one and a half to five

809
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: miles running, but you are all out full until the

810
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: whole time. Right, This is nice, amazing. This is like

811
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: something that um an elementary school could do on field

812
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: day or something, you know, remember those. Definitely I love

813
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: field day, but it definitely reeks of something like an

814
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: eleven year old makes up right, right, But there's no

815
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: tree climbing involved, and if somebody touches you, you you have

816
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: to freeze until somebody else comes along and touches you again.

817
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Oh I'd love to day. But looking back, I have

818
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: no idea what that was for. Was it just a

819
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: teacher free day or something or what was the point? No,

820
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: it was I think your own little Olympics to celebrate

821
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: sport and introduce kids to different, uh two different sports.

822
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: I got you, okay, it was school. I was like,

823
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: what's your angle here? What's what's really going on? You

824
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: were you had to sit in that day? Yeah? I did.

825
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: I protested you sat in your potato sect by yourself.

826
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Um that my mom made me wear so Um. We

827
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: talked about Julie Moss, like, over the years have been

828
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: some people who have kind of risen to the to

829
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop from the Ironman triathlon, and

830
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: Julie Moss was definitely the first, but there have been

831
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: others too. Um. There was a pair of people, a

832
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: man and a woman who were kind of known as

833
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: like the best of the best for a while. The

834
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: guy um was named uh Luke von leird I believe

835
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: I think I said that right He held the course

836
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: record for a while at knat eight minutes for eight hours,

837
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: four minutes and eight seconds, which he said in But

838
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: that guy that I've spoke about earlier Yon for Dano,

839
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: he's just like he's as good as they come as

840
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: far as male try athletes go. He currently holds the

841
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: course record that I believe he just sat like a

842
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: week ago in October two thousand nineteen, seven hours fifty

843
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: one minutes in thirteen seconds sub eight hours. Yep. There's

844
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: another woman competing right now who is um just the

845
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: best of the best. I don't know if she's the

846
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: all time best. I think that still is held by

847
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Speaker 1: Paula Newby Frasier. But um, her name is Daniella lift

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Speaker 1: l y F. She's a German too. She holds the

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Speaker 1: ConA course record now at eight hours, twenty six minutes

850
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Speaker 1: and eighteen seconds. She said that in two thousand and eighteen.

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00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: I can't even lay around and watch movies for eight hours,

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00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: all right? You know? Yeah, I think that's part of

853
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Speaker 1: this too, is having the mental um stamina to to

854
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Speaker 1: stave off you know, the voice in your head that's

855
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Speaker 1: like stop stop, got a hot dog? Stop? Stop? Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a gentleman name Mark with a C. Harman's and

857
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Speaker 1: he is a wheelchair athlete who has completed several Iron Man's. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There's a nun in her seventies, sister Madonna Booder, who

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Speaker 1: every year that she competes, they have to create a

860
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: new age group, which is amazing. Did you look her up? Uh? No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. Oh, man, she's a total b a nice.

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Speaker 1: So she's still competing because this is an old article. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know she is now, but I just looked up,

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Speaker 1: looked up photos of her in competition. Yeah. So she

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Speaker 1: was competing at age seventy five. Right. Yeah. But there's

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Speaker 1: a man named Jim Ward who competed into his eighties

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Speaker 1: and I think he was not finishing the races by

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Speaker 1: that point, but he did complete the race at age

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Speaker 1: seventy seven. Man, that's crazy. Yeah. Um. And you mentioned

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Speaker 1: um of father's son Team Team Hoyt Yeah, Man, Team Hoyt.

871
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Speaker 1: So the dad, Dick hoyt Um is charged with assisting

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Speaker 1: his son Rick Hoitt, who has cerebral palsy, through the

873
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Iron Man and has done this more than once. Yeah.

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00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: So Rick was born with brain damage because of a

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00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: problem at birth and he can't walk or talk, but

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00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: he has a communication device where he was able at

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Speaker 1: one point to communicate that he loves sports and of

878
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: schoolmate of his was paralyzed in an accident and Rick said, Dad,

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Speaker 1: can we run a five k benefit race for my friend?

880
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: They did that with Dick pushing Rick in a wheelchair

881
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: and then said let's just keep the party going and

882
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: moved up to marathons and eventually triathlons. That's pretty impressive.

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00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: You remember Um In our cerebral Palsy episode we talked

884
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: about Kyle PA's Um. He's he's from Atlanta. He's one

885
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: of our listeners and fan. He and his brother Brent

886
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: have competed in Iron Man competitions too. I think they

887
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: competed at the championship as well. Amazing ye yeah, check

888
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: out pictures of Team White because Um the Sun rides

889
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: in a raft while Dad tows him in the water. Uh,

890
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: and then rides a bike with the seat up front

891
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: for Rick and it's just amazing, and then pushes him

892
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair for the for the running leg. Pretty

893
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: great stuff. I can't imagine doing it myself. But also

894
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, with your son who has cerebral palsy.

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00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: It's got a I mean, that's just amazing. Although I'll

896
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Speaker 1: bet you have like a just this like built in

897
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: source of inspiration every time you start to get tired,

898
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: like I better keep going, you know which, actually not

899
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned it's kind of cheating, so um, I got

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00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: a couple of other things, all right, Um, Chris Lee

901
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: very famously. I think they made like a Gatorade commercial

902
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: out of it. Uh. In the ConA Championship, Um collapsed

903
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: right before the finish line, had to have emergency surgery

904
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: to remove half of his colon because it had become

905
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: so oxygen starved during the race that it died. Okay,

906
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: that's a big deal to have happened to you while

907
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: you're in the Iron Man race. And then there was

908
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: also some other famous um collapsing and crawling. Um. That's

909
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: just amazing that people not only collapse, especially when you

910
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: understand what's going on in their body, but then the

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: fact that they picked themselves up and keep going or crawl. Um.

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00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: Shan I think shann or seawan welch u s i

913
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Speaker 1: a n I can't remember the Gaelic pronunciation. And Wendy

914
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Speaker 1: Ingram were both women. Competing in the Iron Man. I

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00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: can't remember what year, but they came in fifth place

916
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: and fourth place respectively. Um, and they crawled. They were crawling,

917
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: like competing against one another, crawling over the to the

918
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: finish line. It's really something to see. As a matter

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00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: of fact, this is I'll go watch those things now.

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00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: You know what I like is when the uh you

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00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: see those things where the person is there's one person

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Speaker 1: crawling and the person can win, but they go back

923
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: and they pick that person up and they crossed the

924
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: finish line together. Nothing better. No, there really isn't. Um

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Speaker 1: one other thing chuck. And there's a ongoing dispute among

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Speaker 1: marathon eors and iron Man competitors over which is harder,

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00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: And a lot of people say, no, marathon is way

928
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: harder because you're competing flat out the whole time. Iron

929
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Man is more about endurance and iron Man is like

930
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: they're like, you clearly have never been in an iron Man.

931
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: So I looked, and I think I've settled this once

932
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Speaker 1: and for all. Okay, the average finisher in a marathon,

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Speaker 1: just a marathon in the United States, I think a

934
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Speaker 1: year or two ago, was four hours and thirty five

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Speaker 1: minutes Okay, so that's that's pretty good. It's a great time.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have that in an iron Man.

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00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: The average time to finish the marathon section with four

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Speaker 1: hours and fifty four minutes less than twenty minutes longer.

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Speaker 1: And this is on top of already having done the

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Speaker 1: swim leg and the bike ride leg. So I think

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Speaker 1: that definitively proves that the Iron Man is tougher because

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00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: most people are still running flat out in the marathon

943
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: portion on top of having already done the swimming in

944
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: the biking. Yeah. I mean, it's not even a debate.

945
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: I didn't even need those numbers. Well some people did.

946
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: Now they've been swayed and they'll never open their mouths

947
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: about it again. Uh. If you want to know more

948
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: about the Iron Man, go out and start training. You

949
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: could also do worse than going and reading this article

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Speaker 1: on how stuff works by our dear friend Ed Grabmanowski. Agreed.

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Speaker 1: Since I say Grabmanowski, it's time for a listener mail.

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Speaker 1: This is from our our new friend Betty. Betty says this.

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Speaker 1: From the time I was introduced to your show, I've

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Speaker 1: been listening and trying to catch up on as many

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Speaker 1: uh with personal connections, but hesitate to test you about

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Speaker 1: all of my thoughts. Recently, though, I completed a couple

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Speaker 1: that convinced me it was time to write in specifically

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Speaker 1: the Navajo code talkers. I wondered if you knew that

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Speaker 1: another group contributed in a somewhat similar way. Louisiana Cajuns,

961
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Speaker 1: who like the Navajo were not allowed to speak French

962
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Speaker 1: on school grounds, served in World War Two as interpreters,

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Speaker 1: uh some maybe even as spies. A friend of mine

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Speaker 1: shared with me that his dad went ashore at Normandy

965
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Speaker 1: acting as an interpreter, and this is the first time

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Speaker 1: I had heard of that. Also, when you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Navajo influence at Guadalcanal, I wondered if you had ever

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Speaker 1: done a segment on the Battle of Sabo Sound, the

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Speaker 1: first ever nighttime naval battle. In that battle, my fathership

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Speaker 1: and many others went down because of a sly attack

971
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Speaker 1: from the Japanese in a series of communication errors. It

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Speaker 1: One of the better stories I've heard that I didn't

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Speaker 1: know about already. Yeah, we'll look into the Cajun thing

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