WEBVTT - Mike “Nova” Bucci is here!

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get it going right here and right now.

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<v Speaker 1>single week I'm joined here by the host of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>The Bespeckled One, the Queen of Extreme Francine. Queen, you

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<v Speaker 1>have four eyes today instead of two. They are new.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something. I have been getting the

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<v Speaker 1>worst headaches, headaches on Fridays when we film, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in front of a computer all day long, and

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<v Speaker 1>my other glasses are I'm near sighted, so they're for distance, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to the eye doctor a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago and I told them, I said, every time

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<v Speaker 1>I wear my glasses, I get really dizzy looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the computer screen. But if I don't wear any thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I still get dizzy and I get really bad headaches.

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<v Speaker 1>These are called computer glasses. So I had two options.

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<v Speaker 1>I could either get a new prescription with my other

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<v Speaker 1>ones and have three. There were biphobals, but there were

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<v Speaker 1>three different things. You can have reading, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need reading glasses regular for distance, and then for the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was three levels. And I told them I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need reading I can see up close to no

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<v Speaker 1>problem right now. I'm not there yet, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you need computer glasses. So these I only wear

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<v Speaker 1>when I am in front of a computer screen, or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you can wear them in front of your eyepad.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have that like blue tint to them or something?

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<v Speaker 1>There's those like blue something glasses. They were recommending them

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<v Speaker 1>for the kids for the version. Yes, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>calm optic or something. Yeah, something like that. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up, but I don't know how effective that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get an extra tint on these. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the kicker. With my insurance, these are excuse me, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty eight dollars. The extra coating was eighty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And I said, listen, I only wear

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<v Speaker 1>them on Fridays. I don't really think I need an

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<v Speaker 1>extra coating, so I didn't. I cheaped out and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the extra but this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ever wearing them. Oh oh, I look good. Well, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hoping that the headaches go away. And it

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<v Speaker 1>helps me. So yes, I am. I'm librried out, Libryan.

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<v Speaker 1>They're quite reflective. They're like my sunglasses on the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my ring, my light ring here. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try and move that back a little. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry. It's all good. I did. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three weeks ago, I recorded the Triple

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<v Speaker 1>Threat podcast at like eleven thirty at night. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm half dead, and me and Shane literally

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<v Speaker 1>looked like we were about to like keel over. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had to put my glasses on, right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>have very thick, thick lenses because my eyes are the shits.

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<v Speaker 1>They are just they're useless. It was so you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even see I had eyeballs. My glass is so thick,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way the light was reflecting off of them,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked like I was like Max Headroom style, like

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see coke bottle. Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't see what was underneath there. I could have

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<v Speaker 1>been like this the whole time, like I'm like drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh my God, got me out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, dear God, I'm ready to kiel over

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<v Speaker 1>and go to sleep. Yeah, that's how it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>so we got some bad news in my family this

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<v Speaker 1>week as well. My sister has COVID. Oh and she's older,

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<v Speaker 1>which kay freaks me out. She's I think sixty she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be sixty eight, I think. And she called me yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and told me we're not telling my mom because my

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<v Speaker 1>mom will flip out. Right, she was supposed to actually

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<v Speaker 1>come over. Now, we haven't seen anybody in my family

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<v Speaker 1>since Christmas time. My brother came over once and stayed

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<v Speaker 1>outside on my porch and talked to us through the door.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it, because yeah, because we're because my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Just my my sister called me and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come over and visit mommy because we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, December. So I was like okay. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>tells me. Before the weekend came, she called me and said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>a lady in work her husband has corona and he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital with pneumonia and he's in ICU. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, holy moly. Okay. So she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to come. So I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should come, you know. So here

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<v Speaker 1>the wife got it apparently she works with my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave it to my sister, So now everybody and

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<v Speaker 1>over there needs to be tested. So they're all getting tested.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, you stay where you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and but it's it's scary, you know. I know things

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<v Speaker 1>are better with it now they have more information and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but still, like I'm nervous for them because I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want anybody to be sick. Yeah. That's wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's quite the story. I'm sorry to hear that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, I'm just I thank god that she did

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<v Speaker 1>not she found the information out before she came to

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<v Speaker 1>my house. Yeah, oh my gosh. Can you imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you need? That's all you need. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I talked to her so far she just

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<v Speaker 1>lost her sense of smell and taste, but she says

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<v Speaker 1>she feels okay, you know, and then you know, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Malania have it. We used woke up this

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<v Speaker 1>morning to that that was my phone blew up. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully, I mean, it's you know, people are still

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<v Speaker 1>getting it, but I think it's consequences less exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is almost gonna be really our future,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't care about vaccines whatever. People are still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it, and whether or not they got the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine for it or not. You know, I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna be ways to contract it. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be one of these things we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be cognizant of going forward. But we cannot still continue

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<v Speaker 1>to have our lives shut down in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they are because people. I mean, if the president is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get it, then the first lady gets it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the vice president tested negative, the vice president's wife

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<v Speaker 1>tested negative, the Secretary of the Treasury test the negative,

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<v Speaker 1>and all these other people did. It's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. You're either going to catch it or you're not,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're gonna catch it eventually, and we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to have it, you know. It's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody's body treats it differently. That's that's the remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is you might have had it and

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<v Speaker 1>never knew it, right, I mean, I could we still

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<v Speaker 1>suspect from going back to last year Christmas time, we

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<v Speaker 1>were in New Jersey and my little my youngest daughter

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<v Speaker 1>got the worst six she has ever gotten in her life.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that she was she had the flu. B Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the flu was a little wonky last year. Then my

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<v Speaker 1>older daughter got it and they were sick for almost

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, to the point where we thought they may

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<v Speaker 1>have pneumonia. But then they started to kind of come

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Six weeks later, COVID breaks and we

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<v Speaker 1>were in New Jersey, which is a hotspot. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they had it. We now, my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>did not even get a sniffle during that sickness. When

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<v Speaker 1>they were sick, weird, and we were taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>both of them, we didn't even feel, not even that

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<v Speaker 1>scratchy eye nothing. So it's it's just one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we do? It just scares me, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's I feel for you, for you guys and

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<v Speaker 1>your family and your you know, your sensitive situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, as everybody. I just wanted to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I want life to go back to normal. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to I'm still so frustrated. I keep

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<v Speaker 1>trying to book our Disney trip and I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't there's so many obstacles. I mean, honestly, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go with the mask, you know, wearing

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<v Speaker 1>mask and stuff. But even to try and book something

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<v Speaker 1>for next year, it's freaking impossible right now, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many road bumps before you can actually book

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<v Speaker 1>your trip. And I even talk to a cast member

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<v Speaker 1>and she was so apologetic, and I'm like, honey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not your fault. I get it, but it's just it's frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we've never missed a year, Like in

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, we have not missed a trip, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to start. I want to go. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you do, let's just say, all right, first year

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<v Speaker 1>and ten years, you don't go, Hey, we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go that. But you know, this year

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<v Speaker 1>is already starting to fill up. Maybe we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it. And now you're looking at two years

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<v Speaker 1>before you go. You know, it's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, it's uh, we have to go. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I am doing everything I can to figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out. But we're supposed to for Thanksgiving, we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to travel to my husband's neck of the woods and

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<v Speaker 1>visit his family. So that's another thing. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is that going to be safe to travel to another

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<v Speaker 1>state and you know by this time is everything going

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<v Speaker 1>to be calmer? And I have upcoming I have a

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<v Speaker 1>date have to go to in New Jersey. Okay, date

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go to in Pennsylvania, A date that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go to in North Carolina. I mean, oh, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a autograph engagement in each one of those

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<v Speaker 1>states so far and including and Virginia, so we'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>those four in it. So I'm going to be traveling

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<v Speaker 1>through four states in the next month and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing the one that you discussed with me

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<v Speaker 1>with Shane that is on the books, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Shane is that. I will be in Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if Shane will be there because

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<v Speaker 1>that date had to get moved to November. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the end of October. Now it's November seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think you're busy that day, November seventh, right,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that? Don't you have a I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I but yeah, but just still it's you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be traveling through four states, and I've traveled

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<v Speaker 1>through each one of those dates already. Yeah, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just fourteenth Okay, I couldn't remember it was oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm like, duh, no, it was the seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's November fourteenth. Again, I knew it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those dates in November, so yeah, yeah, but out

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue, you know, my my little baseball signing

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<v Speaker 1>business has exploded, let me exploded because the Queen retweets

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff and people people say it, and people notice

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<v Speaker 1>that you're welcome, you are well, thank you. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even begin to tell you the like it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>when you're hot, you're hot scenario for me. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>completely thankful of this because I don't take it lightly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get a chip on my shoulder, and I

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<v Speaker 1>take it like this could be gone tomorrow. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really like I I work my ass off to do

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, not because I'm gonna I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a mint off of it. I do because I

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<v Speaker 1>love it and I really enjoy it, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't even begin to express my luck I've

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<v Speaker 1>been lately. You know. It's funny you say that, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel about my career. That's awesome. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working, like, especially during quarantine, I've been working

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<v Speaker 1>more being at home than when I was on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was on the road, it's like I go out,

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<v Speaker 1>I do my deal, I come home, I do my

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<v Speaker 1>family stuff. Right I'm home. I'm not on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm working. It seems like I'm working five days

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<v Speaker 1>a week, like doing different things. I try. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to save everything for the weekend because I know I

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<v Speaker 1>have to gussy up on Fridays and now Saturdays with

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<v Speaker 1>the only fans. But if something comes in, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get it done. And I say to myself, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I just push myself to do it because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just said, it could be gone tomorrow. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>ride the wave. Make as much money as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm enjoying what I'm doing. You know, I'm exhausted,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm happy and I'm happy to be helping

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<v Speaker 1>my family out. So and it's weird too to be

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<v Speaker 1>for me to maintain, you know, my regular job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm now doing in my basement exclusively. I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>into Washington, d C. A couple of times. That's good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just a few times. But like you know, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have this weird lottery that I

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<v Speaker 1>wont like my family is fifteen feet away from me,

0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven. I get to go off and

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<v Speaker 1>do these shows and appearances and come back and be here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's weird. How long is this going

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<v Speaker 1>to last that you're working from home? Don't know foreseeable future. Still, Oh,

0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it is, you know. I mean, look, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for a year. We talked about last week

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, for me, you know how it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, hey, you got me Friday. It's my easiest

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<v Speaker 1>day of the week. You know. I would literally clear

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<v Speaker 1>the workload to Friday to get to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get to us, so we have a clear morning and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like now it's it's just I'm here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what else to say. I just did. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's but I do miss work camaraderie a little bit,

0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but not enough to not enough where

0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like gonna be like, you know, please let me in. Please. Yeah,

0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, take away from all the horrible, horrible things

0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of this virus, there are some good things that came

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Yeah, I would agree, And I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say that because I mean, it's terrible don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not justifying the virus. I'm not saying it was a

0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:32.240
<v Speaker 1>good thing. But you know, there are some revelations that

0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.880
<v Speaker 1>have happened, and I think if the virus did not happen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we would have pulled the kids and

0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.360
<v Speaker 1>started homeschooling. And this homeschooling has been such a blessing

0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.679
<v Speaker 1>for us and for our children, and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing how the stress level has just gone down. Yes,

0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in this household, and so goods and beds, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.840
<v Speaker 1>goods and bads. But I just pray that it goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go away. We hate you. We've had enough. Get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. Although I'm kind of on board for

0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my wife and my older daughter to go back for

0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the fifty to fifty model. I love working from home.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be nice if it was a little quieter

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<v Speaker 1>some points of the day, just a little bit. I

0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like that they're here, but a little bit more quiet

0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:24.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes in the day. So you're yeah, both of them, No,

0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.320
<v Speaker 1>both of them are on paper for return at one

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<v Speaker 1>point one October. No, one November like first week and

0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.840
<v Speaker 1>then one November. The daycare is fine. The daycare has

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<v Speaker 1>been operational, for Maddie and for Yeah, and for Liz.

0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.720
<v Speaker 1>They they're one week apart in November when they go

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<v Speaker 1>back for the fifty to fifty model. Now does Liz

0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.480
<v Speaker 1>teaching Maddie's school. No, two different counties and two different counties,

0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.360
<v Speaker 1>although they're separated now by one room upstairs or you

0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:01.120
<v Speaker 1>got one county's over here? One county. Yeah, yeah, so

0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.800
<v Speaker 1>one big happy family. But I digress, so to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So today's an interesting show because now we've pushed the

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<v Speaker 1>pause button where we are presently, and we're gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>it to a canned interview that we already have done,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome with with Nova, who has been on

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<v Speaker 1>our list the guys we wanted on the show for

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<v Speaker 1>almost a year. Yeah, No, Nova is uh. Novah is

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine, A good friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I say good friend a lot of these guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>since I've been off Facebook for so long, I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been in touch with you know what I mean.

0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.600
<v Speaker 1>But he's the kind of person that if I picked

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<v Speaker 1>up the phone and said hey, I need this or

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<v Speaker 1>can you do this right away? He would do it. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Nova is a good friend of mine, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him coming on the show. But of course

0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.200
<v Speaker 1>he has a real job and it's hard for him

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<v Speaker 1>on Fridays. So we finally got a Saturday where everybody

0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.440
<v Speaker 1>can get together because it was usually us who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, we couldn't. Yeah, he could not make

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday. Yep, he could have made the Friday, we

0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do the Saturday. So this time it worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Have him in the can super super guy. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>will not call him Simon Dean. I said this in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview. He is not Simon Dean. Simon Dan is dead.

0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.320
<v Speaker 1>He will always be Nova to me. So great interview,

0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.400
<v Speaker 1>very candid. Uh, just a great guy in general. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so stand by. Nova is ready to roll and we will.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you when in just a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's all right, Can you move back? Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how many your faith is, just back here, not

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<v Speaker 1>too far back because then we don't want to not

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<v Speaker 1>hear him. So as close as we get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Nova, then that's fine. Can I just say I

0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.760
<v Speaker 1>have not seen you in years, five years? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>this so zoomed in on me? What the hell is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? You know, your face so cuge? What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of joint. You're running here, all right, let me announce him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I didn't even do you want to start?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do it straight? You want to do

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<v Speaker 1>from here? They go from here, and that's I'm not

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.560
<v Speaker 1>calling you Simon Dean ever, this is my friend Nova

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<v Speaker 1>from E c W. Everybody, because now this is just

0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>between you and I, buddy, I have not I have

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<v Speaker 1>not seen you or talked to you honestly in years,

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<v Speaker 1>except for like text messaging. Yeah, anywhere you're I'm in Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know. I know, and I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you when you come up to visit your brother

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and your family, you should always stop by. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook now, so I never know what anybody's do.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are in Delaware? Where are you at? Delaware?

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Where you at? Now? We're in Jersey, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say where over this, I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>like I come up. They're actually coming here like two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to visit us for Olivia's birthday, but I usually

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<v Speaker 1>some time and sometimes a Christmas so right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>I left Facebook because I couldn't take it anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I left there, you did you totally. He's such

0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a dick. You heal me, heal me to no end.

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But obviously you did. Come on, you were under your case.

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You weren't your phony name. Yeah, you had like you

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>avoided that for a long time, like like getting sucked

0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.879
<v Speaker 1>into that subculture of the weirdos who come after you guys,

0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>like the women of wrestling. You actually did better than

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<v Speaker 1>most because you avoided it for like ten years. Well

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because I took a leave of absence for you didn't

0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.960
<v Speaker 1>look for it either. Most of these markets. Most of

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.000
<v Speaker 1>these markets looked for it, so you didn't. Now they

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>have to pay to see you. It's true. Yeah, give

0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>me a free means membership OnlyFans stock a breast code.

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.879
<v Speaker 1>If I knew how to do that, I would. I

0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.840
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to do that. I don't even

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.600
<v Speaker 1>know how to maneuver for my page. Anyway, How have

0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you been? What have you been up to? Let's let's

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 1>start off your gun? YEA, how old is Olivia? Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>will be eleven years old on October twenty third. Is't

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that crazy? Do you remember when you guys just had

0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Olivia and you called me and you're like, hey, queen,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? And I go I'm breasted and

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<v Speaker 1>all all your hear is new Molly's around. Olivia and

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<v Speaker 1>Molly around the same age, like, yeah, yeah she's eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and eight. Yeah yeah he's eight, so he's that crazy. Yeah,

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.760
<v Speaker 1>they're they're getting too old too, fans. Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we age, Well, we didn't. We didn't come out as

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<v Speaker 1>misfits and weirdo, you know what I mean. Like, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a natural what a shot that we actually

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<v Speaker 1>have normal lives and kids and we didn't turn out

0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:09.959
<v Speaker 1>to be dead drug addicts, weirdos, misfitsers. Yeah, it happens.

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Every time I would speak to him, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone or text or whatever, he would always say,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so normal. We're like the most normal people in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room. I'm like pretty much. And it wasn't

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing about it, It wasn't weird because nobody made,

0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody ever made anybody in ECW feel like they were

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider or like a piece of shit or anything

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.879
<v Speaker 1>like that, because they didn't partake. If you want to do,

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you're drinking your drugs, you're ritting your craziness, whatever you did.

0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.439
<v Speaker 1>No one cared about any of that. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>most like, weirdest, non judgmental group of people I'd ever

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<v Speaker 1>been around in any setting and anything I've ever done

0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in the real world too, because we were accepting of

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 1>their lifestyle and they were accepting of ours. It just

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we were all friends. It didn't matter what you did

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 1>or what you didn't do. We all just got along,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, No one cared. No one was like,

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you didn't smoke, you're not cool, or

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you're not you're not you're not doing coke, or you're

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>not ratting or like what. No one cared. No one

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.440
<v Speaker 1>cared about any of that stuff. Let's go back. Yeah,

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>let's go back like before. E c W. So, for

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>those who don't know, Nova has a twin brother named

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Donnie B who I haven't seen in the probably go

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<v Speaker 1>through your show one day, he'll come on your show.

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I would like to have him on my show. Yeah,

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. We need a few more sponsors before I

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.680
<v Speaker 1>could start paying. Let's start with one. Let's start with one, exactly. No,

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I have two. Hey man scap Manscape does and uh

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that's what else. No, are your anniversary kid.

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 1>We've been on the air for a year now. I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea this even existed until you contact me

0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago. And now I don't fall

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>into this horrible Let's go back. So when you did

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you both get into wrestling at the same time. Did

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys like trained together? No? So we had a

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>friend of ours name Rich. So I graduated high school

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety me and Donnie Bee had a friend

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of ours name Rich. And there was a brand new

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>wrestling school that opened up New Jersey called Iron Mike

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Sharp's School Professional Wrestling. You don't know who he is,

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>go look him up, famous old timer veteran Mike was awesome.

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>So we used to go there because Rich signed up

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<v Speaker 1>and we would watching. We would watch him train and

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>practice because we were fans too. So probably after about

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three months of this, Mike kept asking

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.360
<v Speaker 1>us to get into the ring. So finally one day

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I tried it. You know, I was like a little fat,

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 1>nerdy wrestling mark kind of I was like, I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>the shit, I don't care. So I kind of liked

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Donnie b tried a little bit. He

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 1>never liked the physicality part of it, but he was

0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.159
<v Speaker 1>part of the school. He got into like managing and

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>being part of like the wherever I went to do

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>shows on the weekends, he came to. So it was

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like myself, him, Rick Ratchett, Devin storm A Starland, our

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>whole rock o'dor all of us together. We did all

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the Dino Santa shows. That's where I first met Dreamer,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of the North East Indy guys. Because that's

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>how you started. Like you went to a school, you

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>bounced around, you sent your tapes out to Dennis or Dino,

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>or you worked for down in Baltimore. You just worked

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>for Tommy d and Staten Island or Mike Dano, like

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>whoever had shows on the weekend. Just getting a car

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and drive. You brought your gear bag. If you got

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks, maybe you have to be on the Battle Royal,

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell you could be on. But you know,

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>so we were. That's how we started. And Donnie has

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>never gotten to the physical part of it. Becau's not

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. And then that's how you met. I never

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>met you before before, e W. I doubt it. Like

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you didn't start with Gary and them until when well

0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I started in ninety three. J A. Smith and I

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>trained with Stevie. Okay, so you start like a year

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I started the beginning of ninety two, so a year

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>after you never crossed paths until easy dub No. I

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>only went down to the arena to train. They had

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the ring that was in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I mean that was it. Honestly, that's how

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them more like somebody had a building,

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a warehouse and school like something like that. When I

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>see these things now, like these standing the nice training facilities. Yeah,

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>not even wws like other guys that have these amazing

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>schools and all these I'm like guys. I mean, Mike

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Sharp's was the old boxing ring that got converted to

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling ring and we didn't know anybout it. So

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>it is a different time and we're not gonna be

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the old times that pound our fists and say hey,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>this is when we did it. But it was when

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I tell you, it was different, it was different. And

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting you say that because I think about this

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>often too. Do you feel like, twenty twenty five years ago,

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>if it was that way, do you think you would

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>have made it? Uh? I don't like having to do

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the like the because I've watched I've seen them like

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the girls and stuff go through

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the performance center and with the drills and this and

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that and the other thing. I was trained a lot

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>different like for us. It wasn't so like strict so

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to speak. It was it was it was more that's

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what it is now now it's like, hey, Like when

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I came down, it was part of OBW. It was Hey,

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>eight thirty in the morning, training more and more regimented,

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>doing drills and cardio and all that stuff, which I

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with that. Like even now when

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I oversaw the developmental system, I actually, you know, that's

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of what we're moving towards. But I think to

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>people now it's easier to get into it, it's harder

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to stay in it. Like it's easier to get signed,

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>it's harder to stay signed. So that's their penance, so

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to speak, like getting signed off the street or they

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>did another sport or whatever how they did before they

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>before they learned they had a lifelong dream and want

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>to be a wrestler. Brother, if this is what they

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>have to do to come in and be part of it.

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>You're doing drills and cardio and updowns and tackles and

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>all that ten thousand stuff because they're not doing any

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff anywhere else, Like they're not getting matches,

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not doing shows anywhere. So I mean that's the

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>tradeof right. But the way you would have done, we

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>would have done it, mean the way you said you

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>were a fan and you would go and you would

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just watch, right, and they said, oh, come in the ring.

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>He said, come in the ring. Would you have gone

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>if you knew like that it was like this, like

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you did. He just said get in the ring on

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>a whim, right, and you were like, yeah, let me

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>try this. Yeah, we would all the time and watching

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Mike's Hey, give it a shot. So I got in

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>the ring and ran the ropes a little bit and

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 1>then Mike helped us out. Mike was not a We

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't have time to Hey, everybody, get there eight o'clock

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 1>at night. That's you know, the classes were later at

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>night and none of the rest of the schools were

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>like they are now though, So, yeah, what was it

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 1>in the back of your mind that you wanted to

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>be in this business? I kind of thought it was

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, but it was so beyond like, you know,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>we had a dad, who had a garage door business

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>this whole until he passed away years ago. My mom

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was a stay at home mom, like we had no

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>relatives in the business, no family. I sat at home

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>watching Hogan versus Andre at WrestleMania three, always a young

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark fan, like it was five point ten at that point,

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>two hundred something pounds of like a little nerdy comic book,

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>sci fi nerdy fat kid. It's never a million years

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>enter my head that I can actually be a wrestler. Okay,

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So for Mike to jump in the ring and school

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>around it was cool, and for me it was, hey,

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be like my baseball softball like bowling

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>league kind of. Mike had showed it to the school

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>every two weeks. That's where I first met Stidi, to

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>my Sharp shows. So we would do those shows and

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is it. This is never going

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>to go I'm gonna be like I was going to

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>school for mathematics and computer science. So I was like, this,

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna scool around

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with this and I'm never ever gonna do anything with it.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care. Yeah, like every time you ever got

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>another milestone of the business, at least when we were

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in it, Like you chalked it up to Wow, that's cool, man,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I pulled that off. Like when I

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>stood in the ring of WrestleMania, I just kind of

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>looked around like that's it. Like I've just played for

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees. There's nothing more than this. I we accomplished

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the grandest stage. So everything after that was well shit.

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean now the kids now, I do think for

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy, the people that are in it now, I

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's going to be as crippling to them

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>or crushing to a lot of them when they do

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>eventually get released or quit or move on like people

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that came up in our era, which I think led

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot to the pills, the alcohol, the depression, all

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of that. Because the spotlight got taken off of us,

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to be part of the life. Brother,

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we weren't in it anymore. These fans like I hate

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to use this term, but like when I left the

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>wrestling business, it was it's stung. I can it can

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>it to like getting divorced, So now if you love

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that when he got divorced, it really bothers you like

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>these people now, a lot of them they got in

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. Well, hell they're in three

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to four or five years and they're still like thirty

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>or thirty one. They got out, they got the whole

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>rest of their life. They're not gonna give a shit

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that they were the w NXT whatever the hell it

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 1>was for two years. They should have moved on. Do

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you remember do you remember the last show that we

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>did in Pine Bluff? And do you remember you pulling

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>up in the car next to me? Do you remember

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>what you did? No professional memory. I remember the show

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because it was I'm crying, right, I'm so depressed. I'm crazy.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>We all knew, we all knew everybody. Yeah, and everybody

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>goes to the ring and everybody's having a beer. You

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>hope a lot more than most though. You really did

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like you were an optimist all the way to the end.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I tried because Paul kept telling me, and Okay, so

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm upset and I get in the car and we're

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>driving and Novell pulls off. I don't even know who

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was in our cars. He goes like this, rolled down

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the window. I rolled down the window and he's you guys, Oh,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we come. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you were

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so sad. It wasn't uncommon for EASYW like I was

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent known as like the asshole, smart ass smart.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>All were always friends, Yeah, of course, we all were

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like nobody hated each other, even people and had the

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote heat with his brother. I never really hated

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>any of them. There was a couple of whom rubbed

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.239
<v Speaker 1>me the wrong way you now and then, but I

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>never cared about it years later, like to me, like

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Dreamer said at one time, like the E c W

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Heat died with E c W. And I always felt

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the same way, like I just never really, I don't know, man,

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it just never there was There was no giant amount

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of enough money for me to be so mad at

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody that I'd stab him in the back or finish

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>them off for just so incensed that they screwed me

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>over for this pot of gold, you know what I mean.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>It was just it was fool gold. I mean, we

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>were there for the love of it. We all liked

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>each other. We had a great time. I've been asked

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>way more in my lifetime what was it like to

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>wrestle at the ECW Arena than I was ever asked

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.719
<v Speaker 1>about wrestling at the Garden at a wrestle Mania and

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>La and Tokyo and any of it. Yeah, yeah, at

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the tables, a lot of the boys always say to me,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you know how lucky you are that you worked for ECW.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>We would guess to work for ECW, like and I'm

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just like I do. Yeah, there's a lot of guys

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>who were fans or in the business now, like guys

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna name all the names. If there's a

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.239
<v Speaker 1>shitload of guys who are in the business now who

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I met over the years who said to me their

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>goal when they got into wrestling was to wrestle for ECW,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't to be a W Superstars WW. Nobody ever.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>First of all, nobody ever mentions WCW. Now that's not

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because we both had a lot of friends that worked there.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh of course, a single person that said to me, man,

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that w W would have a business,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and that was it. Like never, Like there's talent on

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the w roster right now, like main roster talent who

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.959
<v Speaker 1>told me when they were growing up as kids that

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they were huge ECW fans, that that's what they wanted

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to wrestle. How did you get involved with ECW. You

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier that you met Streamer and Stevie. You know

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a good we have a mutual benefactor in that in Levy. Okay.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So here's how it start. I was at a New

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Jack City Wrestling show in New Jersey. We were all

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>there doing the show late nineteen. It was beginning of

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>ninety six. The main event on the show was Levy

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>versus Mikey. Mary Kate was there, her mom was there,

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Bella doing the TV shirt money, everybody was there. So

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>intermission comes and I'm wrestling on the show, the superhero Kate,

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the Outfit, the whole deal in a tag match after

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>are you super nov the whole deal? So I met

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Levy and passengers like, hey, what's going on man at

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the show? I never met him before, but Stevie was

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>already teener with him and stuff. Stevie was getting pushed

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and he needs to go to your tax team champion.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>All this time because I was taking w Rena several

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>times as a fan, even though it is at Mike Sharps,

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>just like in the audience to see the show. Because

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Stevie would get his tickets and I was like, holy shit,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this is incredible, never in a millionaires. So thought i'd

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>be there, so leave. He's on the show. At intermission,

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Bella says to me, hey, Nova, Scotty wants to talk

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to you. Because I was on early on the show.

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh shit, what did I do wrong? And

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I only knew him at this point. He's like Johnny

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Polo and all that stuff, And Ring's like, oh my god,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>why do you want to talk to me? So he

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>pulls me aside. He's like, hey man, he's like this

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>superhero thing. Is it? Like, are you serious with this

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>or what? It's like? This is like Adam West Batman

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of. I go yeah. He goes, this is great.

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>He goes, give me a tape of just your ring.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Entrance is running around with the kids doing cartwheels and

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>all that. He goes, I want to show up to

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Paul and Tommy and Taz. I'm making a little group

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>in ECW. He goes, I got Stevie there. He goes,

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>We're getting this big fat guy from Philadelphia and named

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call him the Blue MIENI from Yellow Submers.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And I had no idea what the hell that was.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>This is late ninety five, beginning at Yar in middle

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>ninety five. So I said, okay, I'll put the tape together.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I go home, and this is when you had to

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>have two VCRs to like record tape record. So I'm

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>making this highlight tape of me doing my shit, and

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Leevy says, hey, you know, bring the tape up to

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Moon Dancers and drop it off on me. I'm like,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, no problem. So I'm home and I'm looking

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at like the phone book and all this. I said,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what is Moon Dancers, Well, it's the strip club. So

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I put the tape together, and me and Donnie b

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and Rock o' dorsey we go to Moon Dancers one

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>night to look. Now, imagine us straight walkingt like our

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>normal cities and all that, walking into the Booby Club

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to go find me. Oh my god. We walk in.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.919
<v Speaker 1>There's a Levy behind the DJ thing putting himself over

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever. Walk in. I give them the tape. He says, Oh,

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, kid, the whole deal. I leave. Three

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>days later, I get home from Wendy's that's where I

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>was working at the time, and my mom's like, hey,

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>there's some dynam raven or something on the answer machine.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>He left you a message, and I'm like, oh my god. Really,

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, yeah, hey kid, you know I saw

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>your tape. You know, Taz and Tommy they really loved it.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Man could come on down to the next arena show

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see what we can do for you. So

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm already freaking out, like, oh my god. So the

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>next arena show, I'd go down there, and to this day,

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it was, besides Olivia's birth, it was the scariest all

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Walking towards the entrance away where it

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was and it was ron Ronnie Atlas was out there,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, can you go back there and

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>tell Raven a guy named Nova's hair for him. So

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like five minutes later, Ronnie comes through the curt and

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>he goes, hey, come on back. I'm like, holy shit,

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 1>here it is. I walk in the back. The first

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>one that came up through his Beulah. She's like, hey, hey,

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I saw your tape too. I saw It's really funny.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>You're the superhero, right. I'm like yeah, And I was like, hey,

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. And then Tommy came over eating

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a hot dog. He's like, hey, Dino Santa, how you

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>doing because I knew him from Tom from Dinos. And

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>he hands me a hot dog and goes, uh, I

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>love your tape man, And it's great. If you just

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>want to start showing up to the shows, we'll have

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>your car up to the ring with Scotty. You'd be

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>part of whatever the hell he wants to do with

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this flock thing. Here's your first payday. And he had

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>me a hot dog and I was like, and I

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>just started going to the shows doing the flock stuff

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>with Raven and Stevie and Meanie and we were and

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>looking back on it, we were nothing more than the

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>window dressing to his act. And that's what we were.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Scotty brought a whole bunch of us in,

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like well, a lot of us got to be brought in.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like extras. And then through the hard work and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>what we did to get ourselves over, we took the

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>ball and ran with it. We got off everybody. There

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>were so many people that would come to ECW and

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like showed up. They tried to be

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>part of the act. And you, I mean, Jesus Christ,

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>we can name a ton of people like that. But

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>that's how it all started. Do you feel like you

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>said it earlier? People just wanted to work in ECW.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>You had a pretty good career in WWE. How did

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you get Tommy's job in the office? And which company

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 1>did you like working for better? Because honestly, I want

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>people to get I was always I always This is

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>going to sound really crazy, but I'm telling you take

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this advice. If you're listening to this, if you can

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>be try to be successful outside the ring too, and

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not just always come across as a wrestler. Like I

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>always viewed myself as someone who was in the wrestling business.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I never viewed myself as a wrestler brother. I didn't.

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So I was college educated, I was intelligent, I was

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>well spoken, I was regimented, and I always tried to

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>not only just worry about the working inside the ring.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I worried about the working outside of the ring, which

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>carries over into the real world. I tell my people

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>all the time, the real world is a work. If

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you learn how to work the gimmick in the real world,

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.879
<v Speaker 1>you can get over. That's all that matters. So I'm

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>w I've been through OBW, I've been through the system.

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been well traveled. I knew everybody in the Independence,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So when they were getting ready to launch ECW, Tommy

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Dreamer in an office setting was probably like somebody with

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a size twelve foot trying to wear like a size

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>five shoe. It just wasn't a good fit. This is

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth. He hated it. The highlight of

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Tommy's day was walking around Titan Tower with thumbtacks sticking

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>him in his head to walk into the offices of

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the other employees who were there to freak them out,

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>or taking pencils and throw them in the ceiling and

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>watch them a stick. But Tommy helped out a lot

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of guys because you could like good old boy at

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of back then still, and the minute they were

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking about relaunching E. C. Dub I knew that Simon

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Dean I was kind of burnt down on SmackDown. I

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of hate it going because it just was a

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>miserable place to be. There were so many guys, they

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>gave you a hard time and it just as lows

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and today's environment is apparently a million times better. So

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of the guys that are now

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>should be very thankful what they have. But there was

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of pieces of shit I was around. I

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 1>hated it going, and they asked me the opportunity. I said,

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 1>you know what, if there's a chance to be able

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to be behind the scenes and help out young talent

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 1>so they don't get lost in the mix, to try

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to get him a shot, I took it. So because

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I knew I was never going to be a lifer either.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I figured I'd be there for a couple of years

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and maybe then move on. Like there was no part

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty eight. There was no part in any of

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>my plan that ever said I'm gonna be working in

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the pro wrestling business when I'm in my forties. Ever,

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I never ever thought. I always wanted to do more,

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>always right, and I liked wrestling where there's parts of

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>WWF we like. I liked uh. I met some lifelong

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>fans friends there. It was cool and you know, honestly,

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>where we grew up, we were w E fans, Like

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the place you always wanted to wind up. So

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>so nobody can ever tell us like something's impossible, because

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>even like when my employees do they say something's impossible,

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it is said, I hold up one of my action

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>figures and I'm like, well, this was impossible. I'm like,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to twenty five new households for the month, that's

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>not impossible. Guys. This as like a fat Mark kid

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>from Tom's New New Jersey. This was impossible. I mean,

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you've got to post up in perspective, right, So, but

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I like, I love There's It's just something about ECW

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>being part of it. We just were all cool group.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I hung out with everybody from whether it was Van

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Dam or Sandman, the top guys are talking to Paul

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>or even travel with Randy in the van or whatever

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the hell we were doing. Man, we just all had

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a good time. There was never we were all in

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>our early late twenties, early thirties, if that traveling around

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>having a good time. I mean, you know, I didn't

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 1>partake in a lot of the craziness that everybody else.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the guys did. They had a lot

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>more fun than I did in that aspect. But I

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>got to see the United States, man, I got to travel.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I had fun. We had a great time. Would you

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>have left if the company continued, I don't know, because

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like when they were getting ready to collapse, we knew

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it was going South, Like before the Pine Bluff show,

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I had already talked to Johnny Ace who was in WW.

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Johnny As had called me multiple times to bring me

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>in the cruiseweight division, so I knew EW and I

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, Paul said, if something happens, he's

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna bring us all in that kind of deal. That's cool, man,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, it is what it is. But

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I was if they had kept going, me and C.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>W Anderson would have feuded over the TV title. I

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>would have because it right right when we collapsed, right

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>when we folded. I was in peak physical condition. I

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>was over. I had a huge following. I was getting

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>one of the best reactions of the night. I mean,

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just reality. And go back and watch the pay

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>per views, so my music would hit the place we

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 1>go ape shit, and I was they just because they

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>saw me go from a flunky running around the ring

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>with Scottie to team with Meani doing the BWO, the metamorphosis,

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>through that teaming with Chetty, all through that and now

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like the fans felt like they took that five year

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>ride with me, so now it's getting ready to pay

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>it off. Like I was looking forward to wrestling Jerry

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Lynn and Van Dam and like all those guys in

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>legitimate matches, like the real matches where the fans would

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>have bought the false finishes, not a shit would have

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>been Nova for the BWO wrestling against Rob Van Dam.

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 1>It would have been like Nova is kicking the kick

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>ass Nova first, Rob Van Dam. I feel like we,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had so much experience at that point

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>under our belt, and we had so much more to give.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why it hurt me so much

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the way it went under, because a we hung on

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>for dear life. We sunk with the ship, right, we stayed,

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but we had come so far and just all of

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>us has We've grown so much in that company, and

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>we were all at the top of our game, like

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.959
<v Speaker 1>you said, and then it was just like the rug

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>was pulled from under us. And and that is off

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to this day. You know, imagine buying stockcks, right, so

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>let's envision all of us are a stock and over

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>five year time, each one of our stock keeps raising

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and raising and raising, and the stock is about to

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>go bananas, and then all the companies go bankrupt. Like

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that's how I viewed up, Like all of our stock

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was about to become Amazon, and then the company just

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>went away, which is crazy because we had video game deals,

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Action figure deals, the TNN thing collect that was the shits.

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, there are so many things that went

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong that it was. Especially what always bothered me was

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>WWF By's WCW. So that's one of the competitors went away.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>So in theory, if we've been able to hold on

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>from end of like six months to a year, it

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>just would have been us in the WF. Do you

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>have a theory? Because for me, I think back and

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>people ask me all the time, and I never know

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>how to answer this question honestly, and maybe I'm just

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>naive or I'm just dumb and I missed something. Do

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you think that Paul did not want to sell the

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>company to, like say a Billy Corgan who allegedly offered

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>him a million dollars to take ECW right? Do you

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>think Paul did not want to sell it because that

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was his baby and he didn't want anyone else to

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>have it. I do I think that he ultimately no

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>matter what, like, look, I have no ill will towards

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul Hayman. Here's a wrestling here's the thing. Paul Hayman

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was a wrestling promoter, and I wrestled for Paul Hayman.

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Our relationship never really went much further than that.

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.879
<v Speaker 1>He was a boss. I was an employee. Hey, Paul,

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>what's up, boss? Like that was it? Like, I mean,

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of resent. Yeah, it was money owed

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>after collapse and all that, sure, whatever, I mean, but

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that's all, like, it's not tangible money that I can

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>There was bonuses and pay for view and like all

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So it sucked, but I'm not mad about it.

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But I do think, you know, at the end of

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the day, the company that Paul started went bankrupt and

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>went under and it went away. So I think that

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:28.919
<v Speaker 1>probably in the back of his mind he always thought

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that they could salvage it or save it or something.

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he sat around at the eleventh hour

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm good, I'm gonna get out of here and

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>let them hold the bag and get the hell out

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of Dodge. I just don't Over the years, I've changed

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>my stance on that. I just don't. You know. It

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely bothered him too, Like there's no atter if he

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't sit up multiple nights to be like, I can't

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>believe this is happening, because there was no guarantee that

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna go walk in the door somewhere either.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Paul didn't exist. He had probably nuclear he

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>did some places with people, and probably still to this day.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>There's like old weird old timers a heat thing where

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people hate each other until they go to the grave.

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So I know, I just never know how to answer

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that question, because we were kind of in the dark

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>for most of the you know, we just showed up

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and worked, and if we got paid, it was it

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>was a bonus. And if we didn't get paid, we

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>would just all sit around and buy a pizza and

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>share slices, just kind of hang out with each other.

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You know. If we sat there at the end of

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the night and when Debbie Beaumont came walking over a

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>scent Finnigan or one of the guys of Pee Wee

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>but your little paper check and gave it to you,

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and you opened it up and there's a couple of

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>weeks worth of pay on there, You're like, yes, and

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 1>then the big rib. I used to go to sound

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Guy Randy live near me, so me and sound Guy

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Randy would drive up to JP Morgan Mellon Bank, I

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 1>think it was Melon Bank, and Chase we would drive

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>up to Woodbridge. You know. We would drive up to

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that Woodbridge bank a lot and wait there on Monday

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>morning for the bank to open up because we knew

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the depositible the weekend we're in that account. And once

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of us went in and got our

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>checks by one or two o'clock in the afternoon, that

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>account was gonna be no good. So we'd beat talking

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty eight o'clock in the morning waiting for

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the bank to open at nine so we can run

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in there and cast our checks. Yes, meet at one

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred three, and I did that one. We beat Maloney

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>there a bunch of times. Mahoney came like he would

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>call me at two o'clock. No, what the hell, man,

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>They said, you got Yeah. I remember Dawn and I

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>we went there and we were standing there and the

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>ladies like, there's no money in this account. And we

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just looked in at Joe and we were like, how

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>can there not be any funds? Like, there's no money

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>in the account. It's just it's beyond my comprehension. But

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it did but what do you doing? Tell the people,

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing now with your life? I had

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 1>for the last I retired basically over ten years ago.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I've done like a couple of little appearances, a little

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>couple things here or there. I might do something for

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Matthews and his guys next year in Alaska with Meanie.

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Donnie Bee had a rescheduled show that was for this year.

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna do it next year in Lacey and New Jersey.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'll do that with Meani And That'll probably be

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.919
<v Speaker 1>the last physical thing I ever do. But I work

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 1>in convention. I do a couple conventions every now and then,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>but even then, like unless Ninie wants to do it

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 1>or Stevie or something like that, I really don't want

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to do them. I've been very blessed and very lucky,

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I worked really hard the last decade in the

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>financial field. I oversee a branch of a financial institution

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>here Louisville. I have a great job, great benefits. The

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>company loves me. I love the company. They take great

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>care of me. So I don't really hustle the convention

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>circle a whole lot and do a whole lot of

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>those because there's a lot of people that I worked

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>with who are still in the wrestling world who never

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>really got out of it. I'd rather than make the money.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't care. Like even when it comes to

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the T shirts and some other stuff, ask hey, do

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to prog wrestling tea store? Do you want

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to do this? You want to do that? I'm like, Nah,

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>let's let the other boys and girls do it. Man,

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they're good. I've been lucky, uh, you know. I just

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been pretty wise of my investments. I did pretty

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>good with that. But I've always even at the height

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of whatever you want to call my career, even at

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the I was always preparing for life after. Like I

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just never had any faith that it was going to

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>be a long road and there was gonna be a

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gigantic pot of gold at the end of it. Because

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for most people in the business, there's very few that

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>can lead the industry and continue to make money by

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>just being themselves, Like they have to find something else too,

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Like Undertaker is not going to be hurting, but a

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of these people who are NXT for a couple

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.879
<v Speaker 1>of years and they get out, Like you can't tell

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>promote or Hey, I need five hundred dollars in trans

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>because I was NXT on their weekly TV show. It's

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>just not going to work. Yeah, you've got to find

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>other things to do. You gotta find a reason to

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>get out of bed in the morning, Like, find something

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and put your energy into. And if you've made it

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>through the business, and you've learned the lessons from the

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>business to go the hard lessons and the easy lessons.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>If you learn, build up your toolbox with learning how

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to cut promos, learning how to work the gimmick, learning

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>how to read people, learning how to read a room

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of people, learning how to get over, learning how to

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>be charismatic. If you learn how to do all how

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to be confident. If you learn how to do all

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of that from wrestling and you put that in your

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>tool belt, you made more than just a paycheck. And

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>people don't always take stocking that. He's a smart guy.

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll put him over right now. He's a smart guy.

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>We always talked about life after you and I, so

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I think we did pretty well for ourselves. And yeah,

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you're married, you got kids, you look great, you got

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>shit going on. I mean, like, come on, let's be

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>honest here, Like we are. That's how many people from

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>our error are dead, bankrupt, underground nothing. I mean, it sucks.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>It really sucks to talk about it. It does. It's

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>terrible and I hate it. But it's I just feel

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>like and I hate when please people blame wrestling for it,

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>because why are we blaming wrestling? Am I am I

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>crediting wrestling with my success in life? Yeah? I am,

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm also crediting good decision making, a good upbringing,

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 1>making good choices. So wrestling helped me out a lot,

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>just like it helped you out. Like you don't meet

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>your husband if it's not because they're wrestling. Yeah, right,

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel like, like you said, it's the

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>choices that you do make. And for me, we were tempted,

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. We couldn't need poor choices, but we

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>chose not to. So I always thank God that I

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>just had the right mindset not to go that certain path,

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and the path that I did choose brought me to

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>what I have now. So I'm very blessed, as are you.

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, we always joke about it, but we are

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>two of the lucky ones. Yeah, And we have to

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 1>give credit where credit is due, and credit ourselves because

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>we made the choices. Are we gonna be remembered as E. C. W.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famers or like, oh my god, the greatest

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>workers of what? No, we're not, But we should be

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>remembered as people who always worked hard for the fan,

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the fans. We loved the business, we loved our friends

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in the business. We had a great time, and we

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>made out of it one piece. We made a couple

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>of bucks. We made success of ourselves outside of it.

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>To me, is as impressive or more impressive than saying,

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he was the greatest wrestler of all time,

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:33.919
<v Speaker 1>or oh my god, he was so great, Like we're

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>good parents, you're a good wife. You know I'm single.

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Just hit him up, ladies, single and ready to bingle? Guys,

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>can I say something quickly? So? I mean, I've interviewed

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you a couple of times in the past. The last

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>time I saw you was the Pat Bucks show in

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey with Road Warrior Animals, an outdoor show. I

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember that. That was like yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that was great. But here's what I'm gonna just say

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>to anybody listening, aspiring wrestlers, people who want to get

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>into the business. Anytime Nova does an interview, you should

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>study it and you should listen to every word he says,

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's basically given you free advice. And that's anything

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I've ever taken from an interview you've done or a

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>story you've told, is like you literally give the beginning, middle,

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and the end of what like how you should approach

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>getting into the business or staying in the business. And

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Every time you do something, I'm there,

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm right up front. I started in nineteen ninety two.

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I literally, over the course of my career was a trainee,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a trainer. I built wrestling rings, I set up wrestling rings.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I book shows, I booked territories, I wrote TV. I

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>was a head of a developmental system. I was a

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>talent that wrestled for every independent wrestling promotion in the

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>United States. I wrestled in fifty countries. I wrestled for

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>all the major promotion. I was basically in the ring

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>with almost every top fifty superstar the last twenty years.

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>All of that, and I did it and came out

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>one piece. So usually when I talk, I mean i'll

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 1>talk to people. I'll give as much advice as I

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>can and if they don't listen, I'm cool man. I

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.399
<v Speaker 1>wake up tomorrow and can go to work like I don't.

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I just tell you what I think I would do,

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's usually right. And I hired a lot of

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 1>good guys like I hired Kobi Kingston, Drew McIntyre, Santino Morella.

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I hired a whole host of guys that and I also,

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I still to this day, will talk to a mentor

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of younger guys in the business, some in WBF,

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 1>some and Ring of Honor, some of out Impact, and

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>then they'll shoot the shop one day though cont hey, no,

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>but can I run something by it? Because they know

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.479
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be stayed between us, and I'm giving them.

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>When you leave the wrestling bubble, as crazy as it sounds,

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of Francmo, one hundred percent know what I mean. When

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you leave the wrastling bubble, your mind becomes clearer, You

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>look at it differently. You're not as so like mine

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>worked by it. Where you're you're smarter about the business.

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You're just smart about how things work, how things would click.

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, friends in AW I tell them all the time,

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if this was ten years ago, I'd be sitting there

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>right next to them as an agent on the show,

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>taking part of something that their building because it's awesome.

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Like Frankie Daniels, De Bucks, all those guys code either

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>killing it and I love it. I'm proud of them.

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But uh h, you step away from this and just

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>take a breath for a second. You know, if you're

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a young wrestler out there, don't You're gonna get hired,

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.959
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get fired, you're gonna get pushed, you're gonna

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>sit in catering, You're gonna not do anything. You're not

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna have your This is a work sport run by

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate marks, and all we can do is control

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>our look, our attitude, our image, our how we show

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>up to the shows, how our our attitude is to

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 1>our opponents. That's it. Nothing else you can control, none

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. Get in, don't get hurt, make some money,

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:51.359
<v Speaker 1>have fun, get out yet and there is life. There

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is life after wrestling. Correct. I love my life and

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I love I love traveling the world. We've Francine, we've

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>seen stuff that will never forget, and we've done things

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>always remember. But now a point in my life, what

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a ten year old daughter a great job. I do

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:07.799
<v Speaker 1>about one thousand hours of community service to work a year.

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm all over the place in Louisville, and

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't trade any of them for anything. I've had

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a great time in our careers. But yes, every journey

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>we take is prepared for the next time. I have

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent agree. I am so glad I finally

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>got you on this show because I asked you a

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>while ago and we just couldn't find the right time.

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Probably no, you didn't you said anything for you, queen,

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>but then I didn't. You know. Then we kind of

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>did our own thing. But I'm glad you did. I

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>did you show ten years ago. That's one when we

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>did a show for your sister. That Yeah, that's when

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I was Yeah, my sister and my dad had kissed.

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>It's twelve years, I believe in Yeah, that was one

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of the last one. That was the last time I

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>ever stepped in the arena. And when I did it,

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I said I would never Yep, I said I will

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>never wrestle on the ECW arena ever again. I never did. Yeah. Well,

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I there might be something that I can talk to

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you off the air later, But there might be something

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that you might be interested in for next year that

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to keep you in mind, figure it out

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>for you. I'll do anything, Yeah, I know. I well,

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on. This was fun. I hope

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to see you somewhere. I don't know, you know what.

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:15.959
<v Speaker 1>We'll figure We'll figure it out. But tell your brother

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and everybody. I said, yeah, tell everybody, I said, hi,

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and just keep tell me who else you want to

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>get on this. You want Donnie or some many the

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>other ones or whatever. We'll get you a bunch of guests,

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.720
<v Speaker 1>whoever you want. We'll get your ratings up. Don't worry. Thanks,

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, all right, take care and we're back

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in the real world here. And how great was that?

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 1>That was hilarious. That was so insightful. And you know

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>what's great about it, He hasn't done anything in such

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a long time, so I feel like it's it's an

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>exclusive right, Yeah, very well. So that he was on

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with us on the two man power trip and I

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>can't remember why I couldn't make the interview. So he

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 1>did it in the car right, talk to John the

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>whole way, checking into a hotel, getting food, the whole thing,

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I missed it. So when I met him at

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the show I had mentioned at the end there with

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Road Warrior Animal, I got to finally sit down and

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>chit chat with him, and like, oh my god, I

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just literally, like I said, I can listen to everything

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>he does. And you know what, you know what, I

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>miss a lot about him on Facebook. It used to

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be him and his brother Donny b who he touched,

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah a little bit, you know, one of them. Nova

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>likes the Cowboys, and I think Donny Be's a giant Giants,

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and they have like the roach bowl. They

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>call each other roachy and they would have the roach

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>bowl and like every week, like if Nova's if Dallas lost,

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Nova would go into hiding and like he wouldn't pick

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>up the phone, and Donnie would be like, pick up

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the phone, you broach, you know, and it would just

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>they would roast each other. And if the Giants lost,

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, Nova would make fun of Donnie Bee. That's

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>what I miss, the camaraderie of the of the brothers.

0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>They're hysterical. But yeah, Nova's a great guy and a

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>great talent and a good friend of mine. So that

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was a fun interview, So it was well worth the waist.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It's good things come to those who wait, and that

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that was a really really, uh really fun interview, So

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I neglected to mention the time that my

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>uncle and my cousins got his autograph in the Columbia

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 1>airport and he knocked over his bag of chips that

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he was eating to sign their autograph. That's like my

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 1>That that made me think of the story of one

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 1>time my mom was somewhere and she had asked the

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>gentleman who was holding a couple of coffee, could you

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me what time it is? And he goes sure,

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>spilled his coffee to look at his watch. I was like, okay,

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the same difference. That's funny. Yeah, but what Simon Dean

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>doing eating a bag of chips? He's supposed to be

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the fitness guru. Yeah you're not. That was Nova eating

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the chips, not Simon Dean. It was Nova. Oh gosh,

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 1>come on, not even a little bit for Simon Dean,

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 1>not even a little bit, even a little bit. But

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what, you know what I want

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to segue into, Oh, yes see, my whole basement's redone.

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't grab mine, it's over by the door. I

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>have always prepared, and I remember, look without me, kid,

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you'd be nothing. I know your mask has saved my life.

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I have not caught COVID nineteen because I'm

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>wearing my tip your mask and it comes in all

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>these beautiful color. Well I only have two down here

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 1>because I've been wearing the other ones. But look at

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>these fun colors. That's I mean, they're fun. You know.

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>The the kids when they're going back to school will

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>have their tip jar masks as well. I have my

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>my camouflage tip jar masks where a portion of your

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sale will go to the displaced bar and restaurant workers,

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the service workers, if you will. There's my fancy tip

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>jar masks dot com that I wrote down on a

0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper. Absolutely. They come in this beautiful sealed

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<v Speaker 1>sanitary plastic and I'll tell you what. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>put on a paper one, and I felt like I

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:13.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was sucking in like paper. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had my glasses on that day and I was fogging

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<v Speaker 1>up my glasses as I was I was like, forget

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<v Speaker 1>the stupid thing. Yeah, and the paper one. The ear

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>things are the elastic and they cut my ear. And

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>this one is material and it just it's very comfortable.

1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:31.200
<v Speaker 1>They're stretchy, they fit like a glove. It's like wearing

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a pair of underwear on your face telling you if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys need a mask. It's such a good cause

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, to help out the workers who have

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<v Speaker 1>not been able to work. So tipjar masks dot com

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<v Speaker 1>is the place to go. Absolutely and you know, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that you help out who helps out us is it's

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<v Speaker 1>even better. So in the coming weeks, sent you and

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't give us a promo code. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give us anything special. They just want to encourage people

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<v Speaker 1>to go to that site because it is helping out

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<v Speaker 1>these displaced workers. But if if there may be something

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<v Speaker 1>with a promo code coming soon that you got to

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<v Speaker 1>help us out with and use the damn promo code.

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<v Speaker 1>I just just said, you out for a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. Until then, we do. We have another

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<v Speaker 1>coming soon. It'll be in a couple of weeks, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have a nice, yeah, nice, nice, big old reveal.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, promo codes where people have to

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<v Speaker 1>help and do their part, I like it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot. Okay, So before we head to the

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up, let's do some Disney. So Disney I need

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<v Speaker 1>to pull it up because this was a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear about the layoffs? No you did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, well. Okay, So Disney fired or laid off

1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight thousand employees. Wow, holy crap. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>California is still closed. They have not reopened. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Iger he with the California Recovery Task Force days

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<v Speaker 1>after the huge Disney layoffs. So it's it's scary because

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<v Speaker 1>now with all the people laid off, like it's up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air when Disneyland is going to reopen. They're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>treat theme parks the way you treat other sectors. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you take that? They're telling California officials to

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<v Speaker 1>let Disneyland reopen and to treat that the way you

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<v Speaker 1>treat other sectors. I guess other parts of the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the state that are opening. Yes, if you're opening up,

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<v Speaker 1>treat Disneyland the same way and open up Disneyland. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we haven't heard anything coming out of Disney

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<v Speaker 1>World with any people catching you know, the crowds have

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<v Speaker 1>been up. If you're watching the videos, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween season down there and like I said before, decorations

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<v Speaker 1>are everywhere. It's it's starting to get more crowded. And

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<v Speaker 1>the social distancing. They're still trying to do it while

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting on rides and stuff. But now I notice,

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<v Speaker 1>like in watching these videos with like the parades, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the full parades, but they have little you know,

1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:18.920
<v Speaker 1>little floats coming down and the cavalcake cars and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>People are next to each other. So the social distancing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of a problem. But everybody's still wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a mask. So some people say mask aren't effective, some

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<v Speaker 1>people say they are. I say, just wear it just

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<v Speaker 1>in case. That's my take on it, you know. But yeah, Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing in sight that says they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>open anytime soon. And all of those people got laid off.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bob you he's asking you to take his place

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<v Speaker 1>of the test about that. Yeah, So it's it's sad

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight thousand people, especially during this time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not have a magical day, no place, So

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<v Speaker 1>who get Like do you watch South Park? I have,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I haven't watched it in years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I recorded the Pandemic special. I haven't watched it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that Mickey has become like a character

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<v Speaker 1>on South Park, right, No, that's how long that happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, So I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like six or seven years ago. Mickey made a one

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<v Speaker 1>off appearance in an episode where they were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>riffing on the Jonas brothers. Yeah, how Mickey he comes

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<v Speaker 1>in in like a little business suit, like a business attire,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's got like a short sleeve white shirt with

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<v Speaker 1>a tie and like khaki shorts. But he always comes

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<v Speaker 1>in like he walks like Mickey, but he's curses, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's aggressive and he's mean. Crette. Yeah, and he's it's

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<v Speaker 1>that he's the head of Disney, right, that Mickey mass Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the last two years he's become like more

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<v Speaker 1>of a regular character, and uh, he's got a big

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<v Speaker 1>spot in the Pandemic special. But I wonder if that

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse is the one who laid off all these

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<v Speaker 1>these people, because he can be a little crude and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight thousand people not. You can't just issue somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that like twenty eight thousand people that lave and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a magical day at the end, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. I just feel bad for all these people

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<v Speaker 1>who who lost their jobs. It's just it's horrible. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. So and it was an all theme park.

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<v Speaker 1>The article did not say it just says twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thousand layoffs for Disneyland or I'm sorry for Disney in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm assuming a lot of those firings are in

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<v Speaker 1>the park, but it could be it could be people

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<v Speaker 1>in the office. I don't know. This is a This

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<v Speaker 1>is South Park's Mickey Mouse. If you could see, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>he's mad, he's got like a mouse. I see there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Ah, he's so cute though. Yeah, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the little business suito. Yeah. This week on Dance with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars, it was Disney Night, which is my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>night of Dancing with the Stars ever. And Carol Baskin

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<v Speaker 1>she is she one the Lion King, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>she would and she got voted off finally, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>my other tidbit about Disney. But Disney Knight is so magical.

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<v Speaker 1>The women dressed like princesses and the characters and god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a gorgeous evening and I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take your word for it. I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch dancing. I was thinking about something we could

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<v Speaker 1>do for Patreon, so and was like watching something out

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<v Speaker 1>of the norm for you know you or for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if we were to make a list, that

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the top thing. The dumb mask singer.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's watch one of those. I've never seen it, but

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<v Speaker 1>people rave about it and say how great it is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to believe conspiracy theories, the masked singers

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning people to wear the masks. Wasn't there a show

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<v Speaker 1>connected with the mask singer called I Can See Your

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<v Speaker 1>Voice or something which makes no sense to me? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you right over my head? I have no idea I

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<v Speaker 1>can see your voice? And I was like, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you see somebody's voice? But I think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be Yeah, we'll do that one week in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pick the show for you, and you picked the

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<v Speaker 1>show for me, and we'll just watch a segment each together.

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<v Speaker 1>We no, no, we'll watch the show and we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back the next like, we'll watch so during the week

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<v Speaker 1>the preview, right, Oh, I know what you're saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>tell me you watch this, I tell you you watch that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we do an episode where we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what we watched. I mean, I'll go easy on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to watch some sort of horror movie

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<v Speaker 1>and get your review of it and see how we

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<v Speaker 1>sink up. But I think that could be good. You

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<v Speaker 1>picked some off the wall show I wouldn't watch in

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<v Speaker 1>a billion years, and I'll pick a show that you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't watch in a trillion years. Okay, well that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>My just got a show for me called Nikki Fresh

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't wait to watch. It is with Nicole Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember her in Paris and had that. Yeah, it looks adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my next conquest. I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>binge watch Nikki Fresh. I think she's a rapper, she's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to. It's like a spoof, like it's a joke. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joke. Yeah, it's a little sitcom. So it

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<v Speaker 1>looks cute to me. She's back way to be Nicole Richie. What.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's on Quibbi. Oh on Quibbi whatever quibbi is.

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<v Speaker 1>But Quiby is another one of these like offshoot TV. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if it's on the moon. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>gets it, We got it, Yes, he does get baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I have I told you how much I love him lately,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think I've said it. He loves you,

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<v Speaker 1>we all do. So yeah, anything, I met it lately,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought I should maybe maybe ily, but he

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<v Speaker 1>loves you. He's laughing. Yeah, so yeah, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>this will air this, this will air after yeah, but tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Saturday. There is a challenge that I'm facing

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm scared to death of it, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I've never drank tequila straight ooh boy, never

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<v Speaker 1>I have. Okay, so on only fans every week I

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<v Speaker 1>do my live streaming, and I always, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>accept tips on OnlyFans, and because I don't get naked

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, it's pretty hard to get tips on there sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always give away a prize too for I

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<v Speaker 1>pick like I used to do on YouTube. I will

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<v Speaker 1>pick a name out live and somebody will win something.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of my members said, oh, you should

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<v Speaker 1>drink tequila, and I said, I never drank tequila, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, well, we'll tip you. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>make your tip, you said it amount. If you make it,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do shots live during the live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>So tomorrow I will be hopefully drinking tequila because I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that I make my tip amount. So now I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what my passed with tequila. So I've had

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<v Speaker 1>it obviously in drinks, you know, with something. I had

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<v Speaker 1>it in a Long Island iced tea. Yeah, love Long

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<v Speaker 1>Island I sees, haven't had them in years. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>having a Long Island I see is like eating a cheeseburger.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it's like Schmorgas sport of a bunch of different things,

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<v Speaker 1>like David Hasselhof feeding the cheese in the Let's say so,

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest fight with tequila was my twenty third or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth birthday, and John, if he was here, would

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all about it. As I had a rough

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<v Speaker 1>day and the tequila shots came out maybe like ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after we got to the bar, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>there around eight something. We were gone by about nine

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty because I was puking my guts out. How

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<v Speaker 1>many did you drink? Oh? I think like six seven

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<v Speaker 1>I was, And I still to this day I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember how just out of it I was that they

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<v Speaker 1>threw may. We went back to Liz's house. They threw

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<v Speaker 1>me on the bed. I face planted down. I was

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<v Speaker 1>puking the whole ride home. I was puking in the

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<v Speaker 1>stall of the bar. There was just people like peeing

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<v Speaker 1>all around. It was horrible. So then when they frightened,

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<v Speaker 1>so they throw me on the bed right and they

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<v Speaker 1>start doing like wrestling moves to me. They're put me

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<v Speaker 1>in the crippler cross face and put me in the

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<v Speaker 1>ankle lock, and I was I was dead to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not had tequila straight since that was like

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, maybe two thousand and four. We

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<v Speaker 1>bought the Rocks new tequila. No, okay, it sposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be smooth, but I don't know the difference between anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just told myself, I'm gonna eat a hearty meal,

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<v Speaker 1>have my belly full of food, and then I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>water water, and I'll have a ginger Ale next to

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<v Speaker 1>me too, because I when I get upset stomach, ginger

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<v Speaker 1>Al does the track. But please text me when you're

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<v Speaker 1>done so I can get a status update. I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you the film. It's gonna film. That's great, it should

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Well, good luck. Thanks, I appreciate it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it next week. That's not only fans. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll head to the wrap up here. Uh you

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<v Speaker 1>know again this this is not Patreon. So we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the rest of the preview for this week of

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<v Speaker 1>what we have coming for you in this eyes up

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<v Speaker 1>here universe. Uh. First, we are going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>some weird news and some kind of funny stories that

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<v Speaker 1>I found. All have the same kind of tone to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but just they're gonna You're gonna ask yourself some questions

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<v Speaker 1>after this and be like, why that. That's all you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say is why we're gonna do that. Then on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get a little rando and I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw some questions at you that I've written down, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's be about everything I have literally, like I picked

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<v Speaker 1>stuff literally, like I saw something like I'll write that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, just to see what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>you want. You're thinking, Did you invent the word rando?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't think I've ever heard it before you

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<v Speaker 1>said it. I think you might have invented Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>I stole it from somewhere, but for arguments sake, guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I did invent it, Okay. And then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>close out the week with a watch along kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of having to do with stuff we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of weeks. So we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Wolf a few weeks ago. Okay, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the One night Stand last week where you came in

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<v Speaker 1>and took care of business and beat up Beulah. But

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<v Speaker 1>we also mentioned the Shane shows, the Hardcore Homecoming series.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna look at franchise with Francine versus Gary Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>November Rain. I have not seen this in years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. That's great. So there you go. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the watch along. It's it's like a minute

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<v Speaker 1>match to dog collar match. I have some questions just

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<v Speaker 1>from my viewing of it. It was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the series of shows that you guys did that year,

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<v Speaker 1>so so we were on tour when this this was

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<v Speaker 1>I think it wasn't this might have even been the

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<v Speaker 1>last one. Oh yeah, November fifth, two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Where were Oh this one was in Philly? This one

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<v Speaker 1>it was in Philly. Okay, sounds good to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it. I don't even remember it, so this

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<v Speaker 1>will jore my memory. Awesome, all right, Well, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>all about that this week on Patreon. So for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's listening to the audio on Creative Control, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're missing. Unless you join our Patreon page, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the video of this show, plus you get all the

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<v Speaker 1>extras that we post during the week, and then literally

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<v Speaker 1>I still, I'm sorry I sold this short. I said

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<v Speaker 1>we had like two hundred plus shows on our Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>in video and audio. We have three hundred plus on

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<v Speaker 1>How could you miss shows? So I'm sorry I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the old number. That's all right, We're the

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<v Speaker 1>and Chad has his moments. I gotta do a glimmer,

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<v Speaker 1>a glimmer, a little little speckle. So that's patrion dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>Slash Francine Podcast. If you want to follow anything going

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and on Instagram. If you want to check

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<v Speaker 1>out the signings I was talking about. My websites Ibexclusives

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<v Speaker 1>up there. It's pretty cool and it's all linked to

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<v Speaker 1>mix of the two things. But check it out, appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll hand it to you Quin. You can take

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<v Speaker 1>us out of here. Across the board. On social media,

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. Again. Guys, please stay safe, please stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that that is a wrap.