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Speaker 2: Off more than even I thought it would was this

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Speaker 2: conversation we had on Tuesday night on this very program

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I hope you're right.

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Speaker 2: Now all I can do is go off the more

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Speaker 2: romanticized nature that the childhood version of me views the

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Speaker 2: about that conversation is we never really even talked about

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Speaker 2: the postseason. I like the BCS era for ten reasons.

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Speaker 2: None of them are even what the structure of the

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Speaker 1: Just interesting. If you guys miss that, I would encourage

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Speaker 2: We are proudly brought to you by Academy Sports and

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Speaker 2: Now Doors on this Thursday night, January sixteenth, the year

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Speaker 2: of WORL Lord twenty twenty five. We're headed down to Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: GA tomorrow, will be there all weekend, which is irrelevant

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Speaker 2: because we're actually not doing a show or anything. I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to be there for the national Championship game

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Speaker 2: and all that goes along with it. Marcus Freeman, what

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Speaker 2: happens if he wins a title? Ryan Day, what happens

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Speaker 2: if he wins a title? Well, it's interesting you ask, Josh.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about both of those things on tonight's show.

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Speaker 2: I've also got the Thursday version of a very insightful

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Speaker 1: But tonight's question.

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Speaker 2: Which I'll get to in a little while, comes from

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Speaker 2: one of you, and it was does college football need villains?

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Speaker 2: Does college football need dynasties for it to be great?

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Speaker 1: You know who asked the question?

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Speaker 2: Quick trip, quick trip of all gas stations ask the question.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk some dark horse teams tonight for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: because yes, there are a few of them that barely

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Speaker 2: am told through my own sources that his wife has

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Speaker 2: interfere with his visit with us. Make of that what

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Speaker 2: you will. We'll find out together in about thirty or

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Speaker 2: They're watching us in Corpus Christi, Texas, Louisville, Kentucky to Peaka, Kansas, Sacramento, California.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: Direct Colin and I were conversing what Colin is six

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Speaker 2: So Notre Dame was a big deal for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I disagree now. I have long carried the banner for

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Speaker 2: Big Noon Kickoff, and even in our current commissioner feud

439
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: with Klatt, I still have to defend he and Gus

440
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: and the crew on.

441
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Big Noon Kickoff.

442
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Speaker 2: Number one, they do a great job. Number Two, I

443
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: thought Fox made a shrewd move to look at everyone

444
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: in college football landscape terms. Everyone was either living in

445
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,239
Speaker 2: la or they were living in New York City. They

446
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 2: were either three point thirty or they were seven thirty.

447
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: And then they just saw Topeka, Kansas. They saw this

448
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: wide open piece of real estate noon in other words,

449
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: on the East Coast, and they said, why is no

450
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 2: one putting a big game at noon? And then they said,

451
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: we've got a big game every week. Why don't we

452
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: instead of fighting in the three thirty or the seven

453
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: thirty window where we'd do okay, why don't we take

454
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: our a game, put it at noon, dominate the time slot.

455
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: So they did, and they've dominated the time slot. Now

456
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: what they've done also is they've really messed up a lot.

457
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Speaker 1: Of your traditions.

458
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: Big noon Kickoff has taken many a whiteout game and

459
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: turned them into just a noon kickoff.

460
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Speaker 1: I know, I've been at several of them. It's not perfect.

461
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: It's not perfect at all, but I would say that

462
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: in my College Football Commissioner Utopian dream Scenario Project JP,

463
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Speaker 2: as I like to call it, I have a proposal

464
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: where we just overhaul.

465
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Speaker 1: The broadcast model entirely.

466
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Speaker 2: So, look, you elect me, and Big Noon Kickoff still exists,

467
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: but things are going to look way way different in

468
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Speaker 2: terms of who broadcasts what games, and the networks are

469
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: not going to be happy with me. But the thing

470
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: about it is, they answer to me in this plan.

471
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Speaker 2: They answer to me. Next up, speak speak of the

472
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Speaker 2: devils TV executives. These people sign my paycheck. So I've

473
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Speaker 2: got to be careful here. We got to tread lighty

474
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: TV executives. Yeah, of course, probably for the same reasons

475
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: we were just talking about. I saw Colin you just

476
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: ran some Miami b roll. That was a very popular

477
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: talking point in the comments here. Biggest villains in the

478
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Speaker 2: history of college football Miami. Oh yeah, And this is

479
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: another talk you have to have with like your sixteen

480
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: year old nephew who loves college football. But he's still

481
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: new to the table because you tell sixteen year old

482
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: nephew Jeffrey Man Miami some of the biggest villains in

483
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: the history of the sport, and he's looking at you saying.

484
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: The Pop Tar Bowl team Miami what? And you've got

485
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: to remind him Miami in.

486
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: Your lifetime versus Miami in our lifetimes, totally different things.

487
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Speaker 2: See nephew, Jeffrey, God bless him at sixteen years old.

488
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: You run the math. He has no clue what happened

489
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one. He has no clue what

490
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson did. Howard Schnellenberger good luck spelling the name,

491
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: much less explaining to me his relevance in the green

492
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: scheme of college football. But it did happen, And unlike

493
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: some teams that have gotten too the mountaintop and behaved themselves,

494
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: Miami just decided on a little bit different code of

495
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: conduct when they got there, and the state of Miami

496
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: ran things a different way and did it effectively and

497
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: unapologetically for quite a while. I think ESPN did a

498
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: really good job. The thirty for thirty guys did a

499
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: really good job a couple of times on documenting that

500
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: and chronicling that Cam Newton showed up. I saw Cam

501
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: Newton a lot biggest villains in the history of college football.

502
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: We had dozens of people saying, Cam Newton, let me

503
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: go back to nephew Jeffrey for a second. If he's

504
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: sixteen years old and it's twenty twenty five, that dude's

505
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: crawling around in twenty ten, when Cam Newton arrives at

506
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Auburn by way of Blenn Junior College, did you say Startville, Mississippi, No,

507
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: I said Auburn. There lies the beginning of that story.

508
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: And then you've got this cloud, so to speak, that

509
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: has an NCAA label on it, and it hovers over

510
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Auburn the whole year. Everyone's just sure of themselves. That

511
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter that they're winning all these games by a

512
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: possession or less.

513
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Speaker 1: It's all going to be eradicated.

514
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: People were saying about Auburn that year, the same thing

515
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: that some people are saying about Michigan right now. I

516
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: don't follow the message board musing's day to day about

517
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: NCUBA investigations and Reddit conspiracy theories, but there are people

518
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: fully convinced that folks at Michigan should get out right now.

519
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: Because the hammer will eventually drop. Well, I don't know

520
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: if that's true or not. I will say that that

521
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: was a foregone conclusion around Cam Newton and Auburn in

522
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: twenty ten. So they had the audacity to play the

523
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: season out anyway. They kept winning. They go into Bama,

524
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: got down like twenty one or twenty four to nothing,

525
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: came back and won the Iron Bowl. They go to Atlanta,

526
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: they beat I think South Carolina, and then they go

527
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: and they win the National Championship against Oregon. I think

528
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't twenty ten. And the whole time, Cam Newton's

529
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: just smiling. And I don't need to explain to you

530
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: probably some longtime Alabama fans and how they viewed Cam

531
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Newton's audacity to come in there and compete and smile

532
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: while he was doing it at Auburn. You know, it

533
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: probably will come as not a great shock to you

534
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: that Wayne and Watumka did not enjoy that all that much.

535
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: You know, Larry and Lochapoka not a huge fan of

536
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Cam Newton. Earl and Ufaula. It didn't go over well

537
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: with him. So yeah, I will absolutely buy Cam Newton.

538
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: You know what, that was a poor choice of words.

539
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: I buy the idea that Cam Newton was one of

540
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: the great villains in college football. Brian Bosworth absolutely absolutely.

541
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Speaker 2: Now I will also ask you this, so think about this.

542
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: So Boz number one, he had a nickname, is a player,

543
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: So that's always a good sign that you've either become

544
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: a hero or you've become a villain. Number two, think

545
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: about Brian Bosworth and his image as a player at

546
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: OU and I want you to think about whether you

547
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: believe that could even happen today. Now, conventional wisdom would say, oh,

548
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: it's more likely to happen today because think about social

549
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: media and think about how much more visible players are. Yeah,

550
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: but because players are more visible, and the number one

551
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: word that everyone learns out of the womb these days

552
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: is brand. Does anyone even want to live that lifestyle?

553
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: Like everyone wants to be a babyface? Now, no one

554
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: wants to be a heel. You got to find someone

555
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: who wants to embrace being a heel because you're not

556
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: going to be as loved. You'll be popular, but you're

557
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: not going to be as loved. And if fewer people

558
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: may want to buy your T shirts, I'm just using

559
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: professional wrestling logic right now, but it also applies in

560
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: society and entertainment and sports and life. Brian Bosworth did

561
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: not care about any of that. I just wonder could

562
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: that even exist today? Is the closest I gets Manzielle.

563
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: Recently he was that. And then like someone.

564
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: Said, Tebow.

565
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: By the way, in this a couple of you said

566
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: Tebow was one of the great villains in the history

567
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: of college football. How what villainous qualities did Tim Tebow have?

568
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: He volunteered too much, he smiled too broadly, he cared

569
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: too deeply. No, I'll tell you the problem you had

570
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: with Tim Tebow. You are misdiagnosing it. You're misassigning your anger.

571
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: You got sick and tired of the oversaturation of media coverage.

572
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Manti Tao was the same way. Neither of those dudes

573
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: did a thing wrong. They may, in some cases.

574
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Have believed a thing a little bit more than they

575
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: should have believed, but they didn't.

576
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Do anything wrong. Those were really good dudes. They still

577
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: are good dudes.

578
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: It's just that media gravitated towards to the degree that

579
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: you got.

580
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Fed up with it.

581
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: Well, instead of getting mad at the coverage, you got

582
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: mad at the player. And I think that just may

583
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: be a little misdiagnosed biggest villain in the history of

584
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: college football. We got some oj Simpsons moving along Urban Meyer.

585
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes. So I was, as we have

586
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: documented several times, a Southern youth when urban Meyer came

587
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: to Florida. So the great talk around southern watering holes

588
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: was that urban Meyer, this guy from Utah, that's how

589
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: they classified him, was coming to Gainesville and he was

590
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: bringing this gimmicky mickey mouse offense to Gainesville. Again, there

591
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: were was not mine, and the South was going to

592
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: teach him a thing or two about college football. So

593
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: then urban Meyer proceeds to redefine what high level football

594
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: is in the South, which was a slap in the face.

595
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: And so a lot.

596
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: Of folks hated urban Meyer. And he wasn't the most

597
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: lovable guy in the world either, and he still is not.

598
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: But that's not a bad thing.

599
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: You know.

600
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer has his flaws, but his intensity and passion

601
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: as a competitor, to me, has never been one of them.

602
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, Saban also absolutely qualifies here. Saban though at

603
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: the very end of his career. What was so funny

604
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: is the sports started to change on fifteen different fronts,

605
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: so everyone would look to Sabin as the spokesperson for

606
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: college football.

607
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: To an extent, they still do so.

608
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: In the latter part of his career, I thought his

609
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: likability rating, his Q score, if you will, started to

610
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: go way up. And now he's in his post coaching

611
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: career and he's on game day and now virtually everyone

612
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: loves him.

613
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: He's on every other commercial and like network TV.

614
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think at his apex, Saban, big time,

615
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: villain energy. Those were some of the most frequently contributed names.

616
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: What about dynasties, though, I think dynasties as a concept

617
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: in college football may be dead, and I could be

618
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: wrong here, but dude, think about most recent who we're

619
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: talking about were talking about saving there.

620
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: We're talking about Alabama.

621
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Alabama's pretty much the standard for what a dynasty would

622
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: look like in college football because they won a bunch

623
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: of titles. They did it over a long period of time.

624
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Clemson won a couple of titles in a three year period,

625
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: I think it was, and they were winning Georgia here

626
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: recently under Kirby they had two titles in a row.

627
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: But I don't count those as dynasties because to me,

628
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: to be a dynasty. You gotta have some titles, yes,

629
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: but you have to have sustained your run as the

630
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: top program over such a period of time as everyone

631
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: had time to adjust to you. So like Bama made

632
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: a run where they're the best program in the country,

633
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: and then they go through several versions of having to

634
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: retool themselves, several versions of having to overhaul the staff,

635
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: several versions of everybody else targeting them and adjusting to them,

636
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: and they still stayed on top. That's a dynasty. It's

637
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: not win a couple of titles in a three year period.

638
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anyone can do that. Most

639
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: people cannot. But those are just a couple of really

640
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: good teams back to back and it's part of a

641
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: really good program. But a dynasty that's a little bit different.

642
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: So then think about how impossible that feels now with

643
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: what the Portal's done and NIL has done to college football.

644
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: And it's done to the.

645
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Quality depth that you used to be able to accumulate

646
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: just ten years ago that you can't really do anymore.

647
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: So that lends more variants into the equation. It's tougher

648
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: to sustain a run, I think now than it ever

649
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: was before. You're much more susceptible to injury derailing your season. Now,

650
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: don't tell Notre Dame that, but by and large, that's

651
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: the logic I'm going to follow.

652
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: So who's gonna pull that off?

653
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Who's gonna pull off a decade plus run multiple titles

654
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: and they're number one or number one A in the

655
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: country every year for ten years straight. I don't think

656
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: you can do that anymore.

657
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: Again. I'll let you decide whether that's a good thing

658
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: or a bad thing. I just don't think you can

659
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: do it anymore.

660
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Our friends at Quick Trip, now that's a dynasty. Our

661
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: friends a Quick Trip fueled the whole New Saturday tour.

662
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Our friends at Quick Trip sent me a farra gun

663
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: the other day. The two are not related except that

664
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: they both are presented by Quick Trip, and they have

665
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: given out I don't know how many thousands of dollars

666
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: in free gas.

667
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: To you guys this year, and that's not over. It's

668
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: not done.

669
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: In fact, I should probably give away some free gas

670
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: this week. You know what, Go to a Quick Trip,

671
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: take a picture of yourself from the parking lot, tag

672
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: me on social hit me up if you want some

673
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: free gas. I'll just give some away this week, because

674
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: that's how we roll. Well, that's how our partners roll.

675
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: It's not my gas to give away, but it is theirs,

676
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: and they have given me the power to give it away,

677
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: so we appreciate them. Man, still still a lot that

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: we can untap with Quick Trip, because I keep telling them,

679
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: you really want a game changer, send me one of

680
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: those cold brew taps and let me install it back

681
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: here somewhere. That's the game changer, because then it becomes

682
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: a much bigger deal than just gas. Then it becomes

683
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: an entire lifestyle store.

684
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: You know.

685
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: Then you start to ask yourself, if I go to

686
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Academy and I go to Quick Trip, do I really

687
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: need to go anywhere else? May need to go to

688
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: the doctor every now and then, need to go to

689
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: work or school. But By and Lars, they they got

690
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: the rest of my life covered. All right, Let's move on.

691
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I am told via the teleprompter that Jesse figured out

692
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: how to use that we're going to get Cublic at

693
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: seven forty Is that right, Jesse? That would be six

694
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: minutes from now, Jesse percentage? How sure are you that

695
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: we're going to get him at seven forty ninety percent.

696
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: That's the best we can do with cublic five minutes

697
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: out and ninety percents of the best he can give us. Crazy, Okay,

698
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: In the meantime, I'll just cross my fingers. And in

699
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: the meantime we did have another question here. Brandon hit

700
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 2: me up from Gaffney, South Carolina, home of former president

701
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: Frank Underwood, and he said, FSU just had one of

702
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: the worst seasons I've ever seen from what was supposed

703
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: to be a top ten program. Twenty twenty five has

704
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: to be do or die for Norvell, even with his

705
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: massive contract extension that now seems poorly timed.

706
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Wait a second.

707
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: First off, I hope all of you have seen House

708
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: of Cards or you don't know what I meant by

709
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: Frank Underwood poorly timed.

710
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Wait a second, now, just hold on.

711
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: It's easy to say now that the Mike Norville contract

712
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: extension was poorly timed. You can't say that with revisionist

713
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: history at your disposal, or you can't say that with

714
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: the benefit of hindsight. That's not fair because FSU had

715
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: to extend his contract before they saw what was going

716
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: to happen the following year. So let's go back to

717
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: this time last year. Florida State season just wrapped up

718
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: in an unfortunate manner.

719
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: But what did they do?

720
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: They went undefeated in the regular season, They won the

721
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: ACC Championship. They finished the season with their backup quarterback

722
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: and still won the conference.

723
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: They supplanted any kind.

724
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: Of doubt that people had had about whether FSU could

725
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: come back as a team, or whether Mike Norvel will

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: the real deal.

727
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: All of that was silenced.

728
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Nobody was doubting Mike Norvel this time last year, and

729
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: then the Alabama job came open, Mike Norvel's name was mentioned.

730
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: It's up to Greg Byrne, and it's up to some

731
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: agents to know how serious it was. Not getting me

732
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: to talk about that on air, but it was real

733
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: enough to where maximum leverage was enjoyed and a new

734
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: contract was signed, a contract extinsion was signed. That's not

735
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: poorly time. That's absolutely when that would happen. It's the

736
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: way that always happens. You do a really good job,

737
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: other people want you. If the place you're at right

738
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: now wants to keep you, and they decide they do,

739
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: then they make it worth your while to stay. That's

740
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: the long and short of that. That was not poorly timed.

741
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: It's just that it just so happened. The bottom fell

742
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: out right after that. So what have they done there?

743
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: They've gone and gotten Tony White, which I think was

744
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: a huge move, defensive coordinator from Nebraska, and they went

745
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: got Gus Malsan at UCF. Two new coordinators there. They've

746
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: got a new doke by the way, First off, do

747
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: you know who Florida State opens with?

748
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: Colin?

749
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Do you have their schedule for this upcoming year? Have

750
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: we even made those graphics yet? It's still January so

751
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: we may not have that. Ah, yes we do. I've

752
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: got two bits of news. The first one is Florida

753
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: State plays East Texas A and M in week two.

754
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Had never heard of them in my life, but they have.

755
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: They're playing a team I.

756
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Have heard of. In week one.

757
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: They play Alabama at home to start twenty twenty five.

758
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: And great news, the renovations at DOAK will be completed,

759
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: so they'll be playing in front of a full house

760
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: I assume maybe not quite full the next week against ETAMU,

761
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: but Abama in their Week one and I have no

762
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: clue what their team will look like. They got the

763
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: quarterback from Boston College. They got two new coordinators. I

764
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: was looking at the transcript of a talk that Mike

765
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Norvella had with a bunch of FSU boosters recently.

766
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: He sounds bullish. How else would you sound?

767
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: He has reallocated a lot of that contract extension and

768
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: raise he got back into the program, which I thought

769
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: was an integrity move. Like that's what I would do.

770
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: I wear the same three T shirts every week, so

771
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't need millions of dollars. I'd like to have it,

772
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: but I don't need it. And so like if I

773
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: were a coach, I'd just be spending a lot of

774
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: my money on my program. And that looks like that's

775
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: what Mike Norvell's doing. So Mike Norvell and I not

776
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: so different. Perhaps maybe I don't know. And Mike Norvel

777
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: Perennial League gets voted as one of the best looking

778
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: college football coaches out there. We run that poll every year,

779
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: and every year Mike Norvell finishes right at the top.

780
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: So he's got two new coordinators, he's got the hotness factor.

781
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: Other people's words, not mine, of course, but I'm happy

782
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: to respect the results of our polling. And we're in

783
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: the whole never Say never era. So I never would

784
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: have said what happened last year was gonna happen? Would

785
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: you those of you who thought the worst was gonna

786
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: happen for Florida State?

787
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: What were you saying seven and five, six and six

788
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: would have been a disaster?

789
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: And here they go? What two, two and ten? That

790
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: was not foreseeable? So could we see both sides of

791
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: that coin? It's what I'm asking. Could we see this

792
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: rebound this year as everyone reconditions themselves to say, dude,

793
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: how much.

794
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Better could you get in one year? They were two

795
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: and ten.

796
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: They've got to improve a lot to just get to

797
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Bowl eligibility.

798
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: Well, their record has to be a lot better. But

799
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: what if it's just.

800
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, like wild spikes up and down. If

801
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: you lean on the portal like they do, it could

802
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: be that For all I know, the portal era textbook

803
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: is unfinished.

804
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day when they gave you textbooks.

805
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: You check into second grade on first day you get

806
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: your textbooks, they're finished. The history book is finished, so

807
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: you know the beginning, the middle, and the end of

808
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: a particular story. Well, this is an era of college football.

809
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: We know how it started. We've got some early case

810
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: study evidence for how it went. We have no clue

811
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: what the real norm here is. So it could be

812
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: that what happened to Florida State last year happens to

813
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: someone every year, and then if it happens to someone,

814
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: then the very next year it can be just as

815
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: wild on the other side. And it could be that

816
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: desperation born from going two and ten leads to extra

817
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: desperation in an attempt to reverse that, and then they're

818
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: disproportionately more likely to bounce back severely the next year.

819
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: So you never know.

820
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: You never know what the new portal era is going

821
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 2: to bring us. Okay, a lot of you are headed

822
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: to Atlanta. A lot of you want to go to

823
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: the National Championship game.

824
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I do too.

825
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: I am in a blessed position. I get to go,

826
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: and I don't have to pay a dime to do it.

827
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: They're actually going to pay me. I'm told I get

828
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: paid to go Monday night. Believe me. Believe me. For

829
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: those of you who think.

830
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate that I grew up sitting in your seat,

831
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: I grew up not being able to afford to go

832
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: to these kinds of games. And on a related note

833
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: used to aggravate me to no end that people got

834
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: paid to go cover these games. So you should probably

835
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: feel a little aggregate or aggravated that I get to go.

836
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: I will grant you that. But if they're not going

837
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: to credential you and they're making you pay for a ticket,

838
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: I do have good news. We have partnered with seat

839
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: geek to get you one hundred dollars off. So if

840
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: you're looking at the secondary market right now, I know

841
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: it's tough. I know it is, and I can't get

842
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: you tickets for free, but I can get you one

843
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: hundred dollars off.

844
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: This is point blank.

845
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: You go to seat geek, pick your tickets, you get

846
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: to check out, enter the promo code payt State one hundred.

847
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: That is pat e stat the number one hundred, and

848
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: you get one hundred dollars off. There's no catch, you

849
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: don't have to sign up for anything. I'm just we

850
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: worked that out for you guys, because I'm trying to

851
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: get you any relief that I can on the cost

852
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: of tickets. It's Ohio State, Notre Dame. Man, it's tough

853
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: right now. So they're watching us in not a Sooga Alabama.

854
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 2: Are they really I've been.

855
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: To Nottasauga several times.

856
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: I bet people in Nasloga don't know that anyone knows

857
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: that that town exists nationally, but I do.

858
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I've shot several college.

859
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: Football game or high school football games in n Osloga.

860
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: Good people there, very good people Athens, Ohio, and late

861
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: Charles Louisiana also tuned in. Here's what I'm gonna do, Jesse,

862
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: give me the go ahead that we have cublic. I'm

863
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: gonna give you some traffic, so just pay attention. Oh say,

864
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: we do have him, all right, I will do our

865
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: FD during kublic. So go ahead and bring him up

866
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: right now, because I do have several bones to pick

867
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: with him. Well, not bones to pick, just things to

868
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: talk about.

869
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh good corief.

870
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, Kublick's dialing in as we speak.

871
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where he is.

872
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: By the way, like a real life event is happening

873
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: in his house tonight. Me and so he's I'm about

874
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: to find out along with you. He's, Oh, you're in

875
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: your normal setup. That's boring.

876
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: I thought you had a big party down there.

877
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: Normal not my normal setup. No, wait, definitely not.

878
00:42:59,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: Where are you?

879
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: Is our peloton? This is the kid's play room over here.

880
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: There is nine year old playing for bed. Yeah.

881
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: Oh so there's a real kid over there.

882
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: That's a real kid. Wow, believe it or not. Yeah,

883
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: she gets to stay up late tonight because we had

884
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: to appear on Josh Pate's College football show.

885
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Colin, if you have to adjust the credit, see

886
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: if we have to put him in the credits.

887
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, okay, we're good. Yeah, he's under twelve. By

888
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: the way, he's under twelve. Right, she's under twelve. It

889
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: was granny. The shot was grainy. I couldn't see back there.

890
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: All right. I need you to tell the people something

891
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: that you already told me.

892
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: We were down in Miami last week, macilroy and I

893
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: went on an expedition to get home. You were driving

894
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: like an expedition or a Grand Cherokee or something like that.

895
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: You stayed down there, you jetted out in the middle

896
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: of the afternoon. You had a car that had like

897
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: six thousand miles on it. You're trying to get to

898
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: Miami International And then what happened.

899
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: It was a Jeep Grand Wagoneer big suv. Knew, like

900
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: you said, under six thousand miles and I was just

901
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: taking my time because you guys got up early and

902
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: got stuck in Atlanta. I was on a direct to

903
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: Birmingham a little bit later in the day, no issues

904
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: with the flights. But I get about thirteen miles out

905
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: of Miami International and all of a sudden, the temperature

906
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: gase comes on. And not really sure what to do

907
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: about that because at that point when I'm doing thirty

908
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: five miles an hour for about the next two miles

909
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: down to the Interstate, and the traffic was bad, which

910
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 3: you also warned me about. Didn't know if I needed

911
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: to stop get cool it, didn't know if I shall

912
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: let somebody look at it. So I decided to every

913
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: time I came up on a little bit of a hill,

914
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: stick it into neutral coast, let it cool down. So

915
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: the temperature would go from about two fifty five, which

916
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: was overheat, to about two fifty three to two fifty two.

917
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: Get it down. Then we could get up to about

918
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: forty two miles an hour, And that's what we did

919
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: for the next ten miles to get to the airport

920
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: rental car return center. Thankfully, my rental car returns to

921
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: was on the first floor, because I don't think I'm

922
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: making it up one of those giant ramps to get

923
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 3: to like the third or fourth floor. Pulled that thing

924
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: in felled like smoke when I rolled in there, said

925
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: I'll take the email receipt. We're out. Made our flight somehow.

926
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: Second time I run in an airport.

927
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: By the way, Ever, Miami's no joke, man, You actually

928
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: have to run to Key West to get to some

929
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: of those delta gates.

930
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no joke.

931
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: So you took your sweet time getting on the show tonight,

932
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: and we had to rearrange the entire order of things.

933
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: So I want to talk to I want to talk

934
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: to you about something we didn't get to. If I

935
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: asked you right now what you asked me when I

936
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: came on your show the other day. Some of the

937
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: dark horse programs, dark horse teams. Maybe in twenty twenty five,

938
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I could I could sell myself that in the best

939
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: of best case scenarios, team like Florida surprises people and

940
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: makes a run at a playoff spot. I again, we're

941
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: talking best case. You told me Auburn was just gonna

942
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: flip a switch this year, find a way to win

943
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of close games, not turn the ball over

944
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: a whole lot. Jackson Ernold, you know, goes in Auburn

945
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: like Bo Nicks waited to get to Oregon to do. Yeah,

946
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: I could buy that Illinois is gonna be a dark horse,

947
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: but shouldn't be. What are some of the teams you

948
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: look at and you say, yeah, I know it may

949
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: surprise some people, but that wouldn't.

950
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Shock me if they were the nine seed this upcoming year.

951
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be on you with Florida because I

952
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: think DJ Lagway is that guy. I think we've all

953
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: believed that Billy's a good coach for a long time.

954
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 3: So if some other things come together, they're able to

955
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: build a little bit more depth. Maybe through the portal,

956
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: maybe some younger kids step up can give them quality reps.

957
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: South Carolina might be one of those teams as well,

958
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: just because I think Lenora Sellers is a difference maker.

959
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: He's the guy that can take over a game, as

960
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: is Dylan Stewart. Now is Dylan Sewer going to see

961
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: extra attention because he's not gonna have Kyle. He's not

962
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: gonna have three quality probably long time NFL defensive tackles

963
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: on that team. He's not gonna have two veteran inside

964
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: linebackers that can make up for a lot. Probably veteran

965
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: secondary is gonna have to be replaced. But I don't

966
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: think we give Shane Deemer enough credit for what he's

967
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: done in the port. He hasn't hit the home runs

968
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: with the names, but he's gotten guy after guy after

969
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: guy to come in and be very productive and help.

970
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: And then two, I would probably go back to Lane

971
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: Kiffin and Old Miss. I mean, we saw a little

972
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: bitt Austin Simmons last year. He looks like he has

973
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: all the ability, He looks like he has all the talent.

974
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: Now is he going to be able to run the

975
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: offense and manage the offense and operate the offense and

976
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: be the gamer that Jackson Dart was. We don't know

977
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: that yet, but you know they're gonna have talent on

978
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: the outside. The offensive line has been able to be

979
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: circumvented for years now. I don't need that to be great,

980
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: But is the defensive line going to be close to

981
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: what it was last year? And that's what's going to

982
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: have to happen. If Old Miss is going to make

983
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: that push, maybe make that run. I'm with you on Illinois.

984
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: I think Bretts done a great job there. You lose

985
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: a couple of wide receivers, but you've got the offense

986
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: in place now, and I think you've got some experience

987
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: coming back. He's always going to be a run the

988
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: first line of scrimmage coach, you know that, So they're

989
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: going to be able to be competitive in that league.

990
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: I think that's one that I would absolutely look at.

991
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: But the weird part about the conversation, Josh, was you

992
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: and I usually sitting here this time of year, or

993
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: three or four or six months from now, and we

994
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: can easily rattle off six eight teams like, oh, they

995
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: could do it, they could do it. Now you have

996
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: to sit there and search and kind of figure out

997
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: who these teams are. Like mclroy brought up Clemson right

998
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: out of the gate, and the more you think about it,

999
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: you say, yeah, Club Mac actually looked great this year,

1000
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: and they're going to have some good skill back. That

1001
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: defensive line up front seven really should be good. But

1002
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: who else in the ACC is kind of creeping up?

1003
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: If Miami with Carson Beck probably back in that mix,

1004
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 3: But there doesn't feel like a lot of those teams

1005
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: that have sort of been inching toward this and now

1006
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: all of a sudden are ready to make that playoff run.

1007
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's the difference. So we got to define what

1008
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: dark horse is. I wrote that on the sheet of paper.

1009
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: What's a dark horse? Because what you're doing there is

1010
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: you're letting your mind go to the old way of thinking,

1011
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: which is a dark horse equals they could make the playoff,

1012
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: which means they're one of the four remaining teams, which

1013
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: means if they made it that for they could compete

1014
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: for a title. Now you've got teams like SMU this

1015
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: past year, like Boise, who are going to be playoff

1016
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: teams that one hundred times out of one hundred have

1017
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: no shot of winning the whole thing.

1018
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: So are we talking about dark horse? At least? I

1019
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: mean brain to brain. You have to decide this for yourself.

1020
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: But are we talking about a dark horse as that

1021
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: team could be the ten seed or is it still yeah,

1022
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: they can make a run and win a title. Because

1023
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: I could sell you on Texas Tech, for example, went

1024
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: eight and five last year, got a new defensive coordinator

1025
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: number three portal class. They addressed the defense that team

1026
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: could be Arizona State of next year. In fact, nothing

1027
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: shocks me in the Big twelve. Are they gonna make

1028
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: a run and win it all? No, of course they're not.

1029
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: But maybe that's a dark horse now I don't know,

1030
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: And I.

1031
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: Think two are always gonna focus on, you know, the

1032
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: teams that maybe have a similar path to what smu

1033
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: Arizona State teams that you named Boyse had this year

1034
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: as are dark horse teams to even get in the playoff,

1035
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: and then what could they do once they make the playoff.

1036
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: And that's where I think my opinion on this whole

1037
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: thing has really changed, is seeing what it has taken

1038
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: for Ohio State and Notre Dame to advance. It's gonna

1039
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 3: be really hard for me to take some of those

1040
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: teams and say, oh, yeah, I've seen the nast championship

1041
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: game or winning a national championship. That's going to be

1042
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: almost impossible in my mind moving forward for the next

1043
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: few years unless something seriously changes and those teams do

1044
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: advance in different ways. If you look at some of

1045
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: the teams that led us down this year, Tennessee obviously

1046
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: was one that I was completely wrong on, fell on

1047
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: their face in the playoff, and you look at Okay,

1048
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: where they may be a little too one dimensional where

1049
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: they physical enough we thought they weren't. And then, like

1050
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: you mentioned with SMU, if you're overly relying on one

1051
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: guy and he turns the ball over a couple of

1052
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: times early, can you overcome that into other areas? Probably

1053
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: just went too far down that path too early in

1054
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: the game against a good football team that could throttle

1055
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: back and then find a way to win. So and

1056
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 3: then are you going to have teams that are just

1057
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 3: saying it as plain and simple as I can, as

1058
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: football smart as Notre Dames, that are as football game

1059
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: savvy as Notre Dame is, that understands situational football, that

1060
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: don't feel like they have to go throw for four

1061
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: hundred yards, that don't try to make every tackle five

1062
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: yards behind the line of scrimmage. They just play to

1063
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 3: win the game. And that's what team football really is.

1064
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. A lot of the teams that we

1065
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: define as good or great a lot of the times

1066
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: are not what Notre Dame is this year. They just

1067
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: have better players. So what kind of team could be

1068
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: formed like that that can maybe make that run. It's

1069
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: hard to look at it right now from a distance,

1070
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: especially with another portal window that's going to open and

1071
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: say I'm confident that this team or this team could

1072
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: do it. I'll throw another one at you. What about UNLV, Yeah,

1073
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean Barry's already built that roster. He's got talent there.

1074
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 3: Alex Orgy is a magnificent fit for a Dan Mullen offense.

1075
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's exactly what Mullen needs, what he can use.

1076
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: I mean he took Taranoscorus Rex at Mississippi State and

1077
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 3: made him go down there to score points with him.

1078
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean he's taken guys that haven't had great passing

1079
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: acumen before and been able to move the football. So

1080
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: maybe that's one that's sort of on the outside that

1081
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: you look at. One other one that I think that

1082
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: I will probably throw out there for you going back

1083
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: to the ACC would be cal just because of what

1084
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: Justin will Cox has done, the style football that they play,

1085
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Speaker 2: In the door now Notre Dame, Ohio state number right

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Speaker 2: now Ohio state minus eight and a half. As we

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Speaker 2: look at it, I talked all week. I've heard you

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Speaker 2: where twenty twenty points or so wins for them. Now

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Speaker 2: win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would love for them to win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 2: But if you go even in the turnover battle, but

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Speaker 2: you turn you turn them away on downs a few

1146
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: times in the red zone, you make them go on

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00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:04,279
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Speaker 2: explosive plays or maybe special teams is something that not

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Speaker 2: showing up in the box score. But it was a

1153
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Speaker 2: decisive win for you, like the numbers eight and a

1154
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Speaker 2: half not twenty eight and a half. So I know

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Speaker 2: it seems like this tall Mountain to clear, and I

1156
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: did pick Ohio State to win the game. But when

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Speaker 2: I try and present the other side, not to mention,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to overlook what you just said about

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Speaker 2: the team aspect of this, like what their heartbeat is.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like taking a shotgun and trying to

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Speaker 2: fire it into a school of mackerel.

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Speaker 1: You're not hitting any one. I can look at some

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Speaker 1: of these other teams.

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Speaker 2: They are star driven, and if you shut this guy down,

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00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: you shut the entire team down. Notre Dame's not been that.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest compliment I could give him, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because they are beat to death.

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Speaker 2: They have been all year, and they're still playing for

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Speaker 2: a title and there was no easy way to get

1170
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: there for them because they had to play an extra game.

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00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: They could not get a first round by So what

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00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: is the path you see? Like, what's the most likely

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Speaker 2: way you see this thing going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think kind of where you're going that I

1175
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: would agree with is that it is going to have

1176
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: to be a certain style of game, and Notre Dame

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: has gotten or forced their opponents into that game in

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Speaker 3: what eleven of twelve quarters in this playoff? You know,

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter against Penn State would be the only

1180
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Speaker 3: one that really wasn't that, And that is methodical, grind

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Speaker 3: it out, make you work, make life difficult. Not come

1182
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: up with a ton of plays like that, and then

1183
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Speaker 3: went on special teams, Win with field position, win with

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Speaker 3: time of possession, keep staying on the field, great on

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Speaker 3: third down, run the football, slow the rundown, get to

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. Those are the things that are going to

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Speaker 3: have to happen. And there just aren't a ton of

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Speaker 3: areas just when you start to line these two teams

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Speaker 3: up against each other. And no, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: do the old school Auburn plainsman, where we go down

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Speaker 3: and check.

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Speaker 4: A boxer quarterback, a box for runback, or check a

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Speaker 4: box for tight end, because what's more important there, I think,

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Speaker 4: is actually those teams facing off against one another, position

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Speaker 3: So the on line versus the d line, the DBS

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Speaker 3: versus the receivers. It can't be turned into a score fest,

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Speaker 3: it can't turn into a track meet. It can't be

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Speaker 3: that style football game. But if Notre Dame can slow

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Speaker 3: it down, and they can force Ohio State to work

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Speaker 3: their way down the field, and like you said, you

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Speaker 3: get a couple of incompletions, maybe you get a missed

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Speaker 3: field goal attempt, maybe you get going forward on fourth

1204
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: down a couple of times you don't come up with it.

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Speaker 3: That's the game that they need. I do think if

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Speaker 3: there's an advantage for Notre Dame to be had, it's

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00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: right there with their defensive line against Ohio State's offensive line.

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Speaker 3: But I still do believe that that has to be

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Speaker 3: one that situationally is advantageous for Notre Dame. If they're

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Speaker 3: allowing Ohio State to live in second and four, third

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00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: and one, second and threes where they can just line

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Speaker 3: up and run the football. I don't think that's where

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame needs to be in this game, mainly because

1214
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: of the debts in that offensive line, in that front seven.

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00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: But if they get him second third and longs obvious

1216
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: passing downs. We know they can play great in man coverage,

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: so you can get to the quarterback before longer developing

1218
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: routes take place. That's a pretty big advantage. Offensively, you

1219
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: have to have an answer for that defensive line, and

1220
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: I think maybe more important in this game, have an

1221
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Speaker 3: answer for Caleb Downs because of where he lines up.

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Speaker 3: It is a I call it like an old school

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1224
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Speaker 3: Caleb downs up about eight yards, it would look like

1225
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Speaker 3: one two three linebackers. Like when I played football, every

1227
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: single defense in America lined up in for about eighty

1228
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: percent of the game. But he's backed up about eight

1229
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: yards and he can be a safety, a linebacker. He

1230
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: can rove around, he can move to the line of scrimmage.

1231
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: We saw on that toss suite near the goal line

1232
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: where he just knives through and he goes and makes

1233
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: that play. He's gonna steal balls in the middle of

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1235
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: trying to play the middle of the field. He's gonna

1236
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Speaker 3: make you think you have a numbers advantage, and you

1237
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: don't have that numbers advantage. So having an answer for

1238
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: where he is and what he's going to be doing

1239
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: one plays, I think it's almost as important as dealing

1240
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: with that defensive line, which really nobody has done so

1241
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: far in this playoff.

1242
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Were you of the opinion over the past, call it

1243
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: ten or fifteen years, that the sport of college football

1244
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: had just sort of begun to evolve in a way

1245
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: that was going to leave Notre Dame in the rearview

1246
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: mirror as it related to national championship contention, because I

1247
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: had slipped into that when I watched what it was

1248
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 2: gonna take to beat Alabama or to beat Clemson, or

1249
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: to beat a Georgia. I never thought that have the

1250
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: athletes again to do it. With the way that recruiting

1251
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: and talent acquisition had become in college football and the

1252
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: disadvantages as I saw them that they were working with,

1253
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: I never thought they'd put this together again.

1254
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Speaker 1: And they're four quarters away from a national title.

1255
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Speaker 2: And to be honest, man, even if they don't win

1256
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: it Monday night, I feel like they've got plenty of

1257
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: stay in power. If anything, now the sport is coming

1258
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: back towards them in terms of a formula that can

1259
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: sustain win.

1260
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Did you ever did you feel that way?

1261
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: Like I know a lot of folks started to feel

1262
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: that way.

1263
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. I don't know how you couldn't unless

1264
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: you were just wearing you know, navy and gold or

1265
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 3: green glasses and you looked at it through irish eyes.

1266
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Because when they played Clemson in the College Football playoff.

1267
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: That Clemson team literally just ran past them. It was like,

1268
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Speaker 3: go ball, fade, throw deep, God can't cover me, jump

1269
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Speaker 3: catch it, run past him, touchdown. And then they couldn't

1270
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: block him very well either. We know what happened when

1271
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 3: they played Alabama at the end of the BCS era

1272
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: and it was literally run through you. What will you

1273
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Speaker 3: do about it? You can't do anything about it. And

1274
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: that was where I thought, Man, this team just strength wise,

1275
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: size wise, athleticism, why speed wise? Everybody else is leaving

1276
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: them behind, leaving him in the dust. And all we

1277
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: talked about, Josh for years, were the disadvantages that you

1278
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: brought up that Notre Dame was going to face. It

1279
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: is Marcus Freeman, maybe it's some of the administration, maybe

1280
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: it's some people around him. They have found how to

1281
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: flip that script a little bit and take it advantage

1282
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: of some of the things that other schools don't have

1283
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: to deal with. Like I kind of laughed at the

1284
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Speaker 3: whole Oh, we don't have a conference championship game, so

1285
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Speaker 3: that'll be our bye week and then we'll get a

1286
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: home game in the first round of the playoffs. I'm

1287
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Speaker 3: never going to get off of the seat of more

1288
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: playoff games on your path to a championship is easier

1289
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: or better, because it's just not. But there are some

1290
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: inherent advantages that lie with Notre Dame. There being able

1291
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: to schedule the way you want to, being able to

1292
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Speaker 3: play who you want to win you want to with,

1293
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Speaker 3: how you put your your schedules together, and what Jack

1294
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Speaker 3: s Forbrick did for a long time I think is

1295
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 3: a massive advantage for Notre Dame also. And then we

1296
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Speaker 3: know how the revenue sharing is going to go with

1297
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Speaker 3: their media rights deal and then with them in the

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Speaker 3: postseason also, So I think we've taken some of these

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Speaker 3: things that we looked at, all the academic issues and

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Speaker 3: that whatever. These high school kids are so far ahead

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Speaker 3: of the academic curve the majority of the time now

1302
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Speaker 3: and specifically when they get to college. A lot of

1303
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: them have taken college credits. They want to graduate as

1304
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Speaker 3: quickly as they can because they want to be on

1305
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: the move and be able to go somewhere else if

1306
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Speaker 3: that presents itself. So that's like, that's behind us. I mean,

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: that's prehistoric now to worry about a lot of those

1308
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: things and for that to work against you. And I

1309
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 3: also think Marcus Freeman is recruiting the way Notre Dame

1310
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: needs to be recruited. When I was coming out of school,

1311
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Speaker 3: at least, the perception was that Notre Dame just picked

1312
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Speaker 3: and choosed like the high profile players from each corner

1313
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Speaker 3: of the country. Like they'd go to California and they'd

1314
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Speaker 3: get Corey Minor, and then they go up to New

1315
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Speaker 3: Jersey and they get a running back, and then they

1316
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Speaker 3: go down to Miami and get a quarterback. And it

1317
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Speaker 3: was just the guys that super Prep had the front

1318
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Speaker 3: of the magazine and that everybody seemed to want. It

1319
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: wasn't really looking for fit, it wasn't really looking for personality,

1320
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Speaker 3: it wasn't really looking for makeup. And I think Marcus

1321
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Speaker 3: Freeman takes that into account, and it is very serious

1322
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Speaker 3: about that, because if you're not a certain kind of guy,

1323
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: you're not going to come play on his team. Otherwise,

1324
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Speaker 3: how would they overcome these injuries this year. You got

1325
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: to be a certain kind of person to not have

1326
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: played a snap all year and then step in and

1327
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Speaker 3: be the guy and play well right away. I think

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Speaker 3: he's taking a different pros from a practice perspective. I

1329
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: think his twos and threes get more reps than most do,

1330
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: and then you school in the country. So there are

1331
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: a lot of things that he has brought in that

1332
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: are helping Notre Dame either catch up or go ahead

1333
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: and get ahead of the curve where you and I

1334
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: both believe they were way behind it maybe ten eight

1335
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Speaker 3: years ago.

1336
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Speaker 2: The whole swing of emotion for Ohio State if they

1337
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: win this thing their favorite to if they win this

1338
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: thing Monday night, the swing that you take yourself from

1339
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: losing the Michigan and what you had to have felt

1340
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: like to winning a championship, and the fact that in

1341
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: college football now that stuff can happen in the same year.

1342
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Speaker 2: The closest I can do is I can ask you

1343
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: to go back to losing an Iron Bowl and imagining

1344
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: that the structure of.

1345
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: College football was such that you could go lose.

1346
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: You could lose that thing in your home building, and

1347
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: you don't play for a conference title or anything, but

1348
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: the structure grants you access to the playoff.

1349
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: Then you get hot, you go on a run, and

1350
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: you win it.

1351
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: And the worst feeling competitively you could ever have, and

1352
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: the best feeling competitively you could ever have normally would

1353
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: have been reserved for different seasons of your life.

1354
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Now they're like a month and a half apart.

1355
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's ever going to be a

1356
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: norm because that's pretty extreme, but it's a possibility now,

1357
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: and that could actually be a reality for Ohio State

1358
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: in what four days, I guess, which I still don't

1359
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: think I fully come to terms with.

1360
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 3: Well, also, let's look back at that schedule that you

1361
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: just put up and one that we sort of laughed

1362
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: at for the majority of the season. Now there's gonna

1363
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: be if they win this game Monday night, there's gonna

1364
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: be five playoff wins on that schedule. And they were

1365
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: able to avenge the loss at Oregon. So you get

1366
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: the Big Ten champions again in the playoff, Tennessee obviously,

1367
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: and then you have Indiana and Penn State she both

1368
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: knocked off, and here Dame. So five playoff wins out

1369
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Speaker 3: of twelve teams and you were one of them, so eleven, Like,

1370
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive. So that went from a schedule that

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01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: we all looked at and said, well, you've coasted. You

1372
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: haven't even been on neutral. I mean you've literally been

1373
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: on your hands and knees to the first four weeks

1374
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: of the season. And then yeah, you played a couple

1375
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: of tough teams and then you got to one team

1376
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: that might be the playoffs. You lost the game that

1377
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: you probably needed to win to show everybody how good

1378
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: you were. To a pretty immaculate run in this postseason

1379
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: coming off of a loss to your arrival, which wasn't

1380
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: a great football team this year. So it's all I

1381
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: can say is that Ryan Day would be that guy

1382
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: and really the guy that you and I think I

1383
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: and some other folks have thought that he was, because

1384
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: we've never complained, we've never asked for him to be gone.

1385
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: There are things that I thought were lacking on this

1386
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: football team for a while. However, it happened. Whatever players

1387
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: only meeting, whatever guy's like having to come to Jesus,

1388
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: it has happened, and it has taken place, and there's

1389
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes that are playing at their full

1390
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: potential at a much more consistent basis now than they

1391
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: have not only at the any point of this season,

1392
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Speaker 3: but the any point of the last three four to

1393
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: five seasons.

1394
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: All Right, Cube show if I've heard about it, but

1395
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. You know, and I

1396
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: know there's some podcasts around the South that may fit

1397
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: that description. They've just heard that you have a show,

1398
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: but past that, there's no evidence that exists.

1399
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: What's the evidence that exists.

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Speaker 3: I would say digital footprint, which is small. It's it's

1401
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: a microscott at that. And the best description I could

1402
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: give it is someone who commented on last week's show

1403
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: that this is not a film breakdown. This is a

1404
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: random guy talking about a game, which is what it is.

1405
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: And essentially that's that's how we're going to market it

1406
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: moving forward. Random discussing that game or a game, and

1407
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: that's all it's going to be. Now, I'm not sure

1408
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: what most people feel like a film review or film

1409
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: study is. Maybe it's watching the entire game together, which

1410
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: I really don't appreciate and don't like doing. I actually

1411
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: had a good time doing it with you and Alyssa

1412
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: laying at the Orange Bowl, but most times I don't

1413
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 3: want to be around other people when I watch a game.

1414
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: So I'll show you a couple of things at points

1415
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: and times, but I'm just going to describe to you

1416
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: what I saw in certain games. We're taking a little

1417
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: bit of break from the SEC. We're just breaking down

1418
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: the playoff. We will have our Championship Game preview tomorrow,

1419
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: and then we'll wait until Monday to give you that

1420
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: film review from the Championship Game. Even though I hate

1421
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: to break it to folks, we will not be watching

1422
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: the entire game together on Cube show. That's not going

1423
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: to happen. If we did, we would include commercials and

1424
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: we would have reviews of those also, and timeouts to

1425
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: have a full discussion of what we thought was being

1426
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: discussed in all those timeouts and discuss what we thought

1427
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 3: that maybe the player rating in a game Mike Madden

1428
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: would be changing to during the course of a game

1429
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: based on performance and hydration or dehydration levels that we

1430
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 3: thought we saw from sort of a PFF type grade

1431
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: and really not knowing anything about it, but yet pretending

1432
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: like we knew everything out of it.

1433
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: PFF hydration grades, which I hear are coming in twenty

1434
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: twenty five, are probably the most next level.

1435
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: That's analytics.

1436
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: They not here already.

1437
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: That's analytics.

1438
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: That's when a coach makes When a coach makes a

1439
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: decision and someone in the booth McElroy probably says, well,

1440
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: the chart says you got to take him out there,

1441
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: the hydration chart.

1442
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: How do you question this tackle rates, blockable rates, catchable ball,

1443
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, misstards after tackle. All those things are. It's science, Josh,

1444
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 3: is what it is. And we have computers and people

1445
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: for these things, and that's how we're able to come

1446
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: up with these formulas. And the ninety seven point twenty

1447
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 3: six eight out of we don't even know what what's

1448
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 3: it out of n We always think ninety four is good.

1449
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: It could be out of seven hundred. We have no

1450
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 3: idea what's.

1451
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: It out of? I gotta tell you.

1452
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: So they we were all in the press box allegedly

1453
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 2: for the Orange Bowl, and like you, I don't enjoy

1454
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 2: people a whole lot. So I found out you and

1455
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: alyssa langer over in your own little box. And when

1456
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: I say box, I really do mean a box, not

1457
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: a sweet per se.

1458
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: Although they didn't have pretzels.

1459
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 3: It was snug.

1460
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I just I didn't know if I'd

1461
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: enjoy it over there.

1462
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, and we hung out, just the three

1463
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: of us and some crew, and it was a great time.

1464
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 3: You know why, I think the three of us enjoyed it.

1465
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: I'll speak for a lista here. I feel like I

1466
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 3: can do that. I feel like the reason that all

1467
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: three of us enjoyed it and it was nice. We

1468
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 3: didn't talk much, plain and simple, And that's my advice

1469
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: to everybody going to watch the game with your friends

1470
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 3: Monday night. Just shut up.

1471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

1472
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: The word social, other than a great restaurant town to town,

1473
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 2: pretty overrated as a concept.

1474
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: Just leave people alone and.

1475
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: Just let them live their lives and you live your

1476
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: lives and hopefully there's very little overlap.

1477
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: All right, I am putting a link.

1478
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 3: To Cube Solo Social in Homewood. You go go to

1479
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: Soho Social and Homewook you can talk there.

1480
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing the Marcus Freeman point. I'm doing the Marcus

1481
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: Freeman point. That's exactly right.

1482
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm putting a link to Cube show in the

1483
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: live chat right now, I'm ending the show, so you

1484
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: you can go ahead and click on it and go

1485
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: subscribe to it, and please help this guy out.

1486
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't even have a place to go.

1487
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: You got more movement in the background of your shot

1488
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: than like a Chip Kelly backfield.

1489
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: Right now, we're just running laps back there. It's a

1490
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: race to the bedroom back downstairs. We got a whole

1491
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: KD meeting going on with like fifty ladies downstairs. I

1492
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: don't even know what's going on. I mean, I got

1493
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: a nine year old that's not going to bed right here.

1494
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 3: It's hey, it's that's just what. You bring chaos to

1495
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: my life, Yet I find ways to manage it.

1496
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

1497
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 3: And speaking of managing it, have you seen what your

1498
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 3: friend did to me on the media here about thirty

1499
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: minutes ago?

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to specify which friend? I got

1501
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: four of them.

1502
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: Won't you take me to graphic town? Have you seen this?

1503
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I haven't. Why don't you go ahead and

1504
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: tell me on live air what happened?

1505
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: Um? Here we go.

1506
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: I I gotta tell you.

1507
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: This is another company, so I'll probably get in trouble

1508
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: for admitting that I spoke to them today. I gave

1509
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,879
Speaker 2: them three recommendations for what the bottom of your graphics

1510
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: should have said. It's my opinion, the bottom of that

1511
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: graphic should say unfrosted, like they dropped the ball when

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01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: they didn't just make the bottom of the graphics say

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Speaker 1: You got too cute with it.

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Speaker 2: Luckily you redeemed yourself with the whole dion Wood situation

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Speaker 2: being here. Take care, I will see you next week.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thank you? Be quiet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's a rap for us. That's a wrap

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Speaker 2: for producer Jesse, director Colin. I'm Josh Fate. Will be

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