1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ronan, I'm trying to teach you about the changes. I'm 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: not trying to teach you just how to fix a car, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: and I'll do that if you give me the chance. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to teach you about the changes. What 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: do you want to do? You turn up the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: People are stunned to hear to repair a headlamp. The 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: ballast went bad inside the lamp. The ballast is four 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You're still gotta take the bumper off to 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: get to what. You still gotta take the headlamp out. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at and now her love sumbud. 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Everybody falls in love somehow something, and your kiss just 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: told me my sometime. YEA, start your engines if you can, 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: ron and any in the Car Doctor here, it's time 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: to get under the hood. 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Um ver an interesting 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: article this week and I gotta be quick because the 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: phones are busy to repairs. You can actually wait to 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: fix by Robert Ferguson. And I don't understand, you know, 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what Robert Ferguson does. It's off a 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: website do it yourself dot com. Um, I don't know 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: what he does for a living. I don't think he 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: fixes cars. He said anything, he has a clue about 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: what what it is it really takes to fix cars 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: and what they do to operate. And you know, he 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: talks about things you can wait to fix. You know, 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: he talks about fluid leaks, hoses, belts, how important they are. 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: One of the things he suggested you wait to repair 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: is air conditioning and the heating system. And I can 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: tell you why. That's probably one of the dumbest things 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: you can do. It's actually can be life threatening in 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: certain situations. All right, waiting to repair a heating system 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: and he doesn't say, depending upon what time of year 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: it is, but waiting to fix a heating system if 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: you're in the fall, or if your approach, if you're 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of winter. You can't drive a car 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: without heat. I don't care where you live, um, except 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: if it's southern Florida or southern California, Arizona. But you 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: know you need heat in the vehicle. It's gotta gotta 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: be able to clear the windows. You've got to be 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: able to drive with some sort of warmth inside. It's 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: in portant. You'll feel it in your fingertips. You'll just 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: you'll freeze. And if the car gets stuck, then what happens. 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: So you know, no heat, that's a stupid comment. No 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: air conditioning, I don't know about you. But surviving without 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: air conditioning, yeah, I get it. Some people have five 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: fifty air conditioning, roll the window down five feet and 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: five inches and drive a fifty And I understand that too. 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: But the bigger picture is. Air conditioning is also tied 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: into the vehicle heating system in that the air conditioning, 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: it's conditioning. It's not saying it's making the air cold, 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: it's conditioning the air. Air Conditioning will help remove moisture 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: from the air that's being used in the heating system 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: that blows under the froster for the de frost blows 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: on the windshield. So without air conditioning there, you can 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: have enough moisture in there that you'll be blowing cold 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: or warm wet air on the inside of the windshield 70 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: and created a problem where the glass doesn't clear as well. 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: So there aren't very many repairs you can put off. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: He later goes on and he talks about cosme deck 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't have to fix headliners and 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: seat yeah, and I get all that. Yeah, that's cosmetic stuff, 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: but trust me mechanical systems. To ignore repairing a mechanical 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: system may very well be asking for a problem in 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: your own right and creating a life threatening and an 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: emergency situation, especially in the case of heat Stuck on 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: the side of the road on a winter day with 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: a flat tire, So just something to be aware of. 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't like that kind of stuff. It's shouldn't be done, 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: and people like that shouldn't be writing articles that they 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: know nothing about. And I'm tired of seeing it. So anyway, 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: this is the card occurrate fo nine zero zero. Let's 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Ed online one. Let's start 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: the battle there. And you're Chevy loom and hey, Ed, 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: how can I help you? Sir? Yeah? Hi? You just 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: a quick saying my, um my trunk is weaking. Looking 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: at the gaskets, Um, they look all right? What do 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: you suggest to um? Um? Should I? Should I go 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: out to lows and buy some garden hose and sort 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: of uh, you know, silicone blew in here? What did 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: you know? Why don't we do why don't we do this? 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, let's just let's just make a couple of comments. 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Is the area around the seal, it's all dry and 96 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: clear of the breath, there's no leaves, there's no muck, 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: there's nothing there, right, the channel is clean around the 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: trunk lip Okay. So so what you can do is 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: you can do this one of two ways. This is 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: and it would it would always be we we'd always 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: stick somebody in the trunk with a flashlight and we 102 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: would just take a garden hose and I won't spray 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: water hard right at the trunk, but I would take 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: my thumb over the end of the hose and make 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: like a faucet and make you want to. You want 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: to replicate rain drops right so that you know you 107 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: don't want to just because sometimes the pressure will make 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: a leak where there isn't or make a leak disappear. 109 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: That is, so you want to replicate the condition under 110 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: which the problem happens. So thumb over and make a 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a waterfall, make it rain on the trunk, 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: and have them sit there with a flashlight and look 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: for the leak where the leak's coming in. That's method 114 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: number one. Obviously, you gotta be careful and the guy 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: in the trunk's gotta trust you that you're gonna let 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: him out. That's a whole other conversation. You know, in 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: North Jersey we put people in trunks and sometimes they 118 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: don't get out. That's a whole another conversation. Um. So 119 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: that being said, you could also make sure that the 120 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: rubber rubber weather seals are all dry and then take 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: some flour or baby powder and wipe it on the 122 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: rubber seal and then close the trunk. When you open it, 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: you will see the You know, the rubber seal should 124 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: have the flower wiped off it, all right, So when 125 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: it's in areas where it's not wiped off, you know 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: it's that's not a good positive seal, all right. But 127 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: you know that doesn't help you if this is a 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: seam sealer. If this is a problem with the back window, 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: doesn't help you in another area. So I, for one, 130 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: prefer prefer to have somebody in the trunk with a 131 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: flashlight while I while I sprit some more on it. 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, So that's gonna I have something kind of 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of funny too. I I got this car brought 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: off the street from a guy brought it and the 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: fuel gates is te gone. Nice guy he sold the 136 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: tank up. Did I realize the game doesn't work? There? 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: You go? Did you? Did you run out of gas? No? 138 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean yet, what I'm what I'm doing this? I know, 139 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I know I got a sixteen down tank and I 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: got a trip meter, so I just still out So 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: I hit about two and a fifty miles. I retill it. 142 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: It works. You gotta you gotta do what you gotta 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: do to get by, right, Yeah, I think it's too 144 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: EASi because because I looked at me, he said, a 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: lot of diagnostics that involved with that. So I think 146 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I'll just do the trip meter thing for a while. 147 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, because if you're if you end up replacing 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: the fuel level sender, it's part of the fuel pump assembly, 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: and that fuel pump assembly is easily four or just 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: for the part, so all things I can put off. 151 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like, well, yeah, that's something you can put 152 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: off until it becomes a fuel pump. You'll you'll know 153 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: when that's a problem. Is the check engine light on yet? No, 154 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: that's fine, okay, in it may not have looked at it, 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: but once in a while, an older GM will set 156 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: a P zero four sixty three fuelly fuel level sender 157 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: issue because it needs to know fuel level for evaporative 158 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: emission UH monitoring and for that system to work properly. 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: So you may be forced to fix it sooner rather 160 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: than later. Something to look for. But work on the 161 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: water league for now, all right, take good care of it, 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: have a good day, Yes, sir, let's get over and 163 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: talk to James and Tennessee one fifty James, Welcome to 164 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: the car Doctor yesterday. James. All right, yeah, hey, hey, James, 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: what's up? Okay? I got a ninety four point nine 166 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: in it, and it doesn't overheat when I drive around town, 167 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: closed areas and so like that. It's whenever I take 168 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: it to extend, it trips like twenty five plus miles 169 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: and it wants to cut the check engine line on 170 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: the water duck temperature doesn't get hot, but when I 171 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: cut it off, I gotta cut back on and it 172 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: starts choking like it's not getting feeled to it and 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: don't want to start, okay, So so let's let's start 174 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: first with what makes you think it's overheating. Well, not 175 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: overheating because the water temperature never gets up. Okay, I'm 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: curious if there's anything that cause it. Once it's warmed 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: up and it goes to a certain distance, what would 178 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: stop the field or it to get fuel whenever I 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: try to started back up again. So what you're saying 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: is you'll drive at a long distance and it's a 181 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: hard restart once it's been driven highway speed. Yeahs about 182 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: twenty minutes and they know'll fire up like nothing's wrong. 183 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: All right, So any any formal diagnosis done yet, or 184 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: this is the beginning of it is the beginning, all right? 185 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: So this is a four nine? Is this carbureted or injected? Uh? Okay. 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: So first place I'm gonna go is I want to 187 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: know what fuel pressure is? All right? I want to 188 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: see I want to see where fuel pressure is. And 189 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and number one, number two, what's volume? If I depressed 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: the if I depressed the safety release on the gauge, 191 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: can I fill up a pint an under thirty seconds? 192 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Number three? What's the fuel sample look like? You know 193 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: it's an older vehicle. It's a two thirteen. It's going 194 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: on twenty four years old, So you know, could I 195 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: have Could I have a rust condition in the tank? 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: And I have seen rust on older vehicles. Do just 197 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: what you're describing. I have seen contamination in older fuel tank. 198 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Do just what you're describing where it becomes an issue 199 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: On a restart? Does it crank normal? It just takes 200 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: it just takes a long time to fire off, right, 201 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: Does it crank? Does it crank hard or funny when 202 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't want to start? Yeah, it acts like it 203 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: like the first card it started cranking. It's like everything 204 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: that's already in the line, and then it just doesn't 205 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: get anything after that. Well, no, forget about anything in 206 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the line, forget about anything starting the starter motor itself. 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: How does it crank? Does it crank with the same 208 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: consistency cold that it does hot or hot versus cold? Yeah? 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: It does? You're sure? Okay? Then then then you know 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing is the problem. And like I said, 211 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: I'll go back to my first place. I would look 212 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: at fuel pressure, all right, I would definitely, I would 213 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: definitely pay attention to fuel pressure. And keep in mind 214 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: there should be an external fuel pressure regulator here with 215 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: a vacuum line going to it. Just to make a 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: just to make a quick look of this, you may 217 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: want to pop that vacuum line off. Make sure there's 218 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: no fuel spritzing out of that pressure regulator, like the 219 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: diaphragm is ruptured, all right, sir, So give those things 220 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to try. Like I said, fuel pressure is where you 221 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: want to be. That's the first step, and you want 222 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: to try and catch it in the act obviously when 223 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the problem is happening. Checking fuel pressure when it's cold, 224 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: when you don't have a problem, will give you a 225 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: baseline of where it should be when it's warmth. At 226 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: least you know what you're up against. But um, I 227 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: would be paying very careful attention to fuel pressure, fuel condition, 228 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: and volume on that vehicle. Eight zero nine zero zero. 229 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor is coming back right after this. Welcome back. 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: We're on the end of the Car Doctor eight zero 231 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Car Doctor Show dot Com podcasting 232 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: all over the place. Please make sure if you can, 233 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: if you have a player that allows you to click subscribe, 234 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcast. Help us o our sponsors that. Yeah, 235 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: this is the real deal. This is what it's all about. 236 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Let's get over. Talk to Jason fort Worth, Texas one 237 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: fifty and some steering issues. Jason, Welcome to the Car Doctor. 238 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: How can I help? How you doing? I'm aving having 239 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: trouble with this truck? Okay? Is this let me ask you, 240 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: this is this electric our steering or fluid power steering? 241 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Now it's it's a fluid power steering okay, because of 242 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: electric believe it or not? Right? Right? Yeah, and well 243 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: a few a few months ago, I replaced the intermediate 244 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: intermediate steering shaft UM it was locked up, replaced it 245 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: with a ford piece UM, then a few months. A 246 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: few months later, the power steering pump just no assist, 247 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: no power assist at all, left or right or anything. 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: The fluid was really dark, smoke burnt, so I went 249 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: ahead and put a pump on it. Um. I tried 250 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: to get a brand new Ford pump, but they don't 251 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: make them anymore. So Ford offers a remanufactured pump. I 252 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: ordered one, and then they called me and told me 253 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that they don't have any cores to rebuild any so 254 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: they don't have any in stock, and told me to 255 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: go to a local parts house. Well, that was tough 256 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: to find one. So I finally found one by a 257 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: one card own and put a one remanufactured pump on it. 258 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Blood the power STAREM pump system. Actually, before I replaced 259 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the pump, I got as much the old fluid out 260 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: as I could, sucked it out, and then I flushed 261 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: the system really good. I probably put three or four 262 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: quarts of merk on five through it and it was 263 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: coming up clear. And then I put the new pump on. 264 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: I also put a power stare and pump filter on 265 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: it from Cardonne and blood the system. It turns perfectly 266 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: fine left and right with wheels up in the air, 267 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: no noise, no nothing, you put it down the ground. 268 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I have assist to the left and I have no 269 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: assist to the right. At idle um if you're out 270 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: out and about driving, it turns fine right and left 271 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: when the engine speeds are up. But just at idol 272 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: there's assist to the left, but no assist to the right. 273 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: And this is just since you changed and put the 274 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: A one pump on. Yes, this is since I put 275 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: the pump on it. Well, and it's it's it's easy 276 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: to say it's the pump, and I get the logic. 277 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: I get the logic of why it's not because a 278 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: pump doesn't know direction. A pump doesn't The pump doesn't 279 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: know which way you're turning the wheel. It just sees, 280 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, it just sees pressure or it doesn't, so 281 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: you know. The next argument becomes, why was the fluid 282 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: so black and burnt? What let loose? Did something in 283 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: the existing steering rack or in the old pump that 284 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know you took off create an issue 285 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: that something is plugged somewhere causing a steering imbalance like 286 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you've got Okay, so this is a case of your 287 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: either going to put a pressure gauge on the system 288 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: and read does the pump have correct output? Or you're 289 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna throw another pump at it, and then you and 290 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: then you're gonna put a rack in it. There's there's 291 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: not much else you can really do. Sure, you know, 292 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: trying to pinpoint diagnose how many miles were on this Yeah, 293 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, I won't say it's a ton of miles. 294 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not a spring chicken. But it's no 295 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: old man either, so you know. Then then the next 296 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: problem you're gonna have is where you're gonna get a 297 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: rack from and who's rack and who's rack are you 298 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna use? And that's an issue. Yeah, and they're probably 299 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: worth every They're worth every penny of it. Yeah, you know, 300 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: been down this road, Uh, you know, And that's you know, 301 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: if you're a regular listener, you know that I'm a 302 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: fan of a lot of stuff in a situation like this, 303 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: but I think you know that pump probably isn't the 304 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: most difficult to do in the whole world. Right, Yeah, 305 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: it's not not too bad. Right, Um, A little a little, 306 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: a little stupid they give you. Yeah, that's the trick 307 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: for putting those on the end of the line. Is 308 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about the one that kind of fits into 309 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: that groove, Yes, come on a cup of hot water. Yeah, 310 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I use that a 311 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: little bit, just like a transmission ceiling, right, yeah, right, exactly. Um, 312 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: but there's not much more you can do, sure of 313 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: putting a pressure line on it. If I was at 314 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: the shop, I would be thinking somehow, for some reason, 315 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: I've got a problem with this pump only you know, 316 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: and I know it defines logic. I know, there's no 317 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: there's no logical reason why because this is just two lines, right, 318 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: This is pressure and return. That's it. System. Pump doesn't 319 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: know which way it's going. Uh, you know, it doesn't. 320 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't know which way you're turning the wheel. But 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: I you know, I would surely start with a fresh pump, 322 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: and then when that doesn't work, I'd have to put 323 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: a rack in it. I can't think of anything else, 324 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, this could be you know, um, I mean, 325 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: just for giggles, if you wanted to when it was 326 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: on the ground, disconnect one outer tyrod and then doesn't 327 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: do the same, you know, is it is it full load? 328 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Some load? But I don't know what that would tell us, 329 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: right if if we did that, then we'd be scratching 330 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: our heads going, Okay, what's you know, what's what's next here? 331 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: You know? So, yeah, you know, any any idea what 332 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the output pressure supposed to be on this pump? Not 333 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: at the top of my head, I'm gonna think, Um, 334 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna need a pretty decent pressure gauge, something that 335 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: reaches up to three thousand p s. I if I 336 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: remember right, I see them at twelve hundred, I see 337 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: him at eighteen hundred. Um, I see him at It 338 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: depends on the system. But uh, you know, by the 339 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: time you go through all that, See, my concern is 340 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: what took out the first pump, you know, and why 341 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: was the fluid so dark and burnt and beat up? 342 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: And is there something else in that system? It would 343 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: be interesting if you took that new pump off and 344 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: strained the fluid through some cheese cloth, would you find 345 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: any particulate? Would you find any farm material in there? 346 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: And that tells you you still got a problem in 347 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: that existing rack. Give me a call back, Jason, I mean, 348 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: know what ends up fixing this? I'm kind of curious. 349 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm on any of the Car Doctor. We're coming back 350 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back corner Car Doctor. By 351 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: the way, boys were almost three quarters of the way 352 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: through the show. I haven't heard Barry White yet. Steve 353 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: Nac is gonna be upset. I just want to let 354 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: you know that. So so I'm trying to educate the 355 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: poor boy. Let's let's get on over and talk to Lean, 356 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: New Hampshire with the GMC terrain. Lee. Welcome to the 357 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. How can I help? Hey, how's it going? 358 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: I have about two thousand ten terrain uh and uh 359 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: jusy train. It's a three point oh and I had 360 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: two coats pop up one seven one one zero one 361 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: seven four, which is both banks are running Lean on 362 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: fuel and I was trying to figure out how to 363 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: get cleared that up. I changed air flow center and 364 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: then I went and got the the the most expensive 365 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: senses replaced and um and then other codes popped up 366 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: when we resent a couple of times, which was zero, four, 367 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: four six and seven seven too. I think I have 368 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to double check. Alright, So here's here's the deal. Well, 369 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you know who's doing this. You were a repair shop 370 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: or well, originally I brought from one garage and then 371 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: they did the oxygen censors and then then the code 372 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: popped back up. So I brought it to a GMC 373 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: tech uh and um uh certify tech. And they originally 374 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything with the two first codes at piece 375 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: seven zero seven one uh seven one and one seven 376 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: four or whatever. So but then the new codes came up, 377 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: um forgive me, okay, when the when the new coaches 378 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: came up, uh, the censters were chased like to seven two, 379 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: which is says a sensor SI, Lean Bank two and 380 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: lean Bank one are are running lean or something. Well, yeah, 381 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: here's the here, let's let's look at it like this. Lee. 382 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: All right, Um, you're trying to build a fire in 383 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: the fireplace, and you're you're looking for a nice even flame, 384 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: and you're looking for good distribution and right and and 385 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: and when you're you know, you're a guy in New Hampshire. 386 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: It's cold up there. You know what a good fire 387 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: is like, right, So when you when you add too 388 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: much oxygen, Yeah, you know, when when you get too 389 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: much oxygen to it, the fire flares up. When you 390 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: when you have wet, smoky would the fire is kind 391 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: of poopy and it doesn't really work well. So okay, 392 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: So that being said, we're looking for a balanced their 393 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: fuel mixture. We're looking for for even distribution. The first 394 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna look at is one seven one or 395 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: one seven four. The indicators seventy seventy two are telling 396 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: me that the downstream oxygen sensors have reached their lean limit. 397 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: In other words, the computer saying that's all they got. 398 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: They can't go no more. Something's up, So they're not 399 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: they're we're not seeing a response change under these conditions. 400 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: So my my first question, and I think I already 401 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: know the answer to it, is, you know what the 402 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: last thing I changed on it? We got chated with 403 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: the with the perge valve up the front, right, Yeah, 404 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: I got changed that, and so far the code hasn't 405 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: popped back up in the last hundred eighty miles. But 406 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm just that's all I know. Well, here's how you 407 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: can tell if it's fixed or not. You got a 408 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: scan tool. No, but the GMC check said that who 409 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: when they changed that perch valve and he had the hawks, 410 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: he had the gas tank open or something like that. 411 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: He did some tests and then he he said that 412 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: um as soon as they changed the perge numbers stead 413 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: of going back into it the areas they supposed to 414 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: be going back into right because the the perge valve 415 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: was stuck open. Because what I was going to point 416 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: out to you was the way you want to diagnosis 417 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: is you're seeing, you're seeing the the the effect. I 418 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: want to go look at the cause. And one of 419 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: the things I used to look at causing this type 420 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: of situation is where's fuel trim? And you could look 421 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: at that right now if you had a scan tool 422 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: the red data stream. If if zero is supposed to 423 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: be that good healthy fire, if this fire, if this 424 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: fire is running lean, we're gonna see fuel trims in 425 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: excess of and if if changing that purge right, yeah, yeah, okay, 426 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: And now where is it? As far as I know, 427 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: they sit there and and the norm. So I don't 428 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: know if that fixed it or not, but well, if 429 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: if it, if it, if changing the purge valve put 430 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: fuel trim back under ten, back into a zero percent 431 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: zero plus or minus five to six percent, sounds like 432 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: you're fixed. You answered your own question. Yeah, I don't know. 433 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I called you guys like 434 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: a week ago and I made the mistake of trying 435 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: to call you guys on a Sunday, and I thought, 436 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: you guys are open. Sunday was when I was trying 437 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: to get touch with you guys. It was Sunday, and 438 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wait a minute, and I looked 439 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: online find if you guys are doing it for some Saturday. 440 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah we're was yeah, we're we're live on the network 441 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: Saturdays two to four. So you're you're hearing it an 442 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: affiliate on a day, ye say again. Yeah. I was 443 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: absolutely perplexed though, I mean I did not know where 444 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: to go, who to deal with. I mean, I've got 445 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: to a couple of places. And when a g MC 446 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: check couldn't figure it out based upon the two codes 447 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: that he had at the time, which is, let's have 448 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: been one one seven four, I was like, I don't 449 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: know what the heck to do next, you know, And 450 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: I was only lucky that the other code popped up 451 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: later on, you know. I mean it's like, well, where 452 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: you would have diagnosed this or how how how this 453 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: could have been diagnosed is always look at you know, 454 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: in a case like this, always look at fuel triump. 455 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: All right. I had a here, I'll tell you. I'll 456 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: tell you a quick story. Then I'm gonna go. I 457 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: had a nine Toyota c NA this week that that 458 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: was setting a P zero one seven one bank one 459 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: lean all right, and that was the only fault code 460 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I had. Oh that's one side yet, right, How am 461 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: I going to diagnose it? Uh don't know. I started. 462 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: I started looking at things common and only having an 463 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: effect on bank one. Okay, all right. There were no 464 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: vacuum leaks. There was one day there was one downstream 465 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: oxygen sensor that was stuck at point one tenth of 466 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: a vault. I shot it. Wait, I shot a little 467 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: propane in the system, and it stayed at one tenth 468 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: of a vault. It never it never went up. Really, okay, 469 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I put a two centsor in it. I watched fuel 470 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: trims go down. I watched the two vault. It's changed. 471 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: The car was fixed. It's been the three repair shops 472 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: before I got to me. Really, it's doesn't That doesn't 473 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: tense because I was just trying to figure it out, 474 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: and uh um. I was also considering that there might 475 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: be this little voltage meters like a five volt sensor 476 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: under the calf tank. It might have been that too. 477 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: But I well that that sense you you're speaking about 478 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: under the gas tank is the FTP fuel tank pressure sensor, 479 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and that's what what that's doing is, that's that's reporting 480 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: whether the tank is in a state of vacuum or 481 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: pressure for the EVAPP system. Now, now, if you really, 482 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: if you really want me to play with your mind, 483 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: there have been documented cases on GM vehicles were that 484 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: FTP will short and provide a five old feet on 485 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: the signal return to the PCM and said false codes 486 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: for other areas of the vehicle that have absolutely nothing 487 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: to do with FTP. GM has since revised. GM has 488 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: since revised software to pick up that fault as part 489 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: of the diagnostic strategy. So zero does that mean it's 490 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: the ground short or the other way around when it's 491 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: all the way up? If what's at zero the reading 492 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: if you do a volte meter check on it and 493 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: you've been drinking at five bolts, or if it's reading 494 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: zero constantly you're talking about the ft P. Yeah, zero 495 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: zero vaults on an FTP means it's in a very 496 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: high state of vacuum. Okay, all right, And five volts 497 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: means it's reading atmosphere. That's why when you take the 498 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: cap off of a GM car, if it's in a 499 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: state of vacuum, the FTP always rises, right, okay, And 500 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: but the indications to change space upon the pressure of 501 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: the tank. Right now, you're gonna you're gonna get into 502 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: an FTP. Usually you'll see a higher than five volt 503 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: reading or a lower than zero vault reading. It will 504 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: be a shorter failure or no reading. You got it? Yea. 505 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: So but there you go. You're fixed. Congratulations. Yeah, I 506 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: guess that's it. Like I said last week, man, I was, 507 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: I was, I mean trying to get my car inspected. 508 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: I got the clear sticker on my car right now 509 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: and I'm actually driving up to the deal the place 510 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: where I gotta expected originally, and um, I'm hoping with 511 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: a hundred eighty five miles that it would the code 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: should be cleared on the computer so when he put 513 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the computer set up to it, I can get this 514 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: inspection done. Well, yeah, you gotta see if you're monitors 515 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: have run all right, listen, kiddo, I gotta go. Um, 516 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: but good luck to you, and I'm glad you're on 517 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: your way. I'm glad you're fixing doing what you need 518 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: to do zero nine zero zero FTP goes to five. 519 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: I gotta think about that. I might have had that backwards. 520 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Running any of the car doctor, we are backed right 521 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: after this. See no no no no no no no 522 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 523 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no 524 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no run hey 525 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: running your car doctor. Welcome back that UM FTP range values. 526 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I had that backwards. I flipped that around in my head. 527 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: So let's get that straight. Let's go over to Tim 528 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: and Chico, California, twelve hand to fit and some issues 529 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: with a misfire or Tim, Welcome to the car doctors 530 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: are talking out Iron two thousand twelve on the fifth sport. 531 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Uh just just got to about sixty eight thousand miles 532 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: and got a code for T zero three zero three. 533 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: And because I was out a warranty, I decided to 534 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: investigate myself and uh expecting some kind of problem, maybe 535 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: coil tack or spark plug. So yeah, yeah, turned out 536 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: to be both. UM on cylinder number three. I took 537 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: the spark plug out of cylinder number three. I counted 538 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: how many turns loose it was four and three quarter 539 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: turns backed out. UM. Cylinder number two about two turns 540 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: backed out, and the other ones required no rents to 541 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: loosen up, but weren't having backed out. So I'm assuming 542 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: this car built in Japan and that was the last 543 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: time anybody touched this park plugs one owner car. Um. Uh, 544 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: story gets worse and that in g k ridium laser 545 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: plug lost the ground electrode into the motor and it's 546 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: still it was still firing. Um. Give the center electrode 547 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: worked pretty well, I guess. UM, so I had an 548 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: intermittent miss, you know, and uh, there was heat damage 549 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: to the boots on those two coils. And so I've 550 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: ordered to Denzo brand uh coilovers and for new plugs. 551 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: And uh, I'll be doing a valve adjustment forty five 552 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: thousand miles early for Honda replacing the spark plugs. What 553 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: is that thirty two thousand miles early? Um, you see 554 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: to play into your well, you know if you would 555 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: if you had waited until a thousand mile mark, the 556 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: plug would have blown out of the head and then 557 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: you could have had a reason to go buy a 558 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: new car like everybody else, because why would you fix something. 559 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's that's the whole next conversation. Uh, 560 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, and this stuff happens listen, It's it's not 561 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: great and it's upsetting. The point is we're being we're 562 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: being lulled to sleep about how good our cars are. 563 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: But yet repair shops and dealership service base all seem 564 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: to be chocked full of cars. So how good can 565 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: how good can they really be? And we're being prodded 566 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: and poked into thinking that we never need to do anything. 567 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: Just get in the car and turn the key and 568 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: just drive it and you know it'll be fine. And 569 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: and that's not the case, and you know issues like 570 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: you're describing. Yeah, listen, Monday, I get to try and 571 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: put a set of spark plugs. Try key key parameter 572 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: there is try. I've got a three valve five four 573 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: Ford motor um I'm sorry, four six and a and 574 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: an explore. I get to try and put plugs in 575 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: with the two piece spark. We'll see how exciting that's 576 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna be. And oh, I read the technical curvice bulletin. 577 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: If you if it breaks off in there, then you 578 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: use a special rock type compound to bond a rod 579 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: to it and then you extract it. Yeah, it'll be 580 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: it'll be an exciting day Monday. And have you any 581 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: any thoughts on I don't have a more scope that 582 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: will properly look down there. Um, I didn't hear anything 583 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: rattling around? Um does it run? Creating a vacuum port 584 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: to put a vacuum gauge on it? Once I get 585 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: it fronting again to kind of ascertain if there's any 586 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: valve dam Is anything I can I gotta se RP 587 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: T two nine scanners, anything I can look at you 588 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: for damage? No, I mean it's it's gonna be started up. 589 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Does an idle smooth? Doesn't make any noise? Is fuel 590 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: trim and acceptable limits? Fuel trim is to me the 591 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: greatest qualifier out of out of any of the pieces 592 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: of data to come out of a scan tool. If 593 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: if if fuel rim is zero plus or minus ten 594 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: short term side, I love it. I'm happy. You know 595 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: It's it's come down to the point where certain cars, 596 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: older cars, the cars that aren't doing the fuel system 597 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: maintenance and cleaning. I'll do an oil change and if 598 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: I have the time, I'll plug in and just do 599 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: a quick O B D two around the block, short 600 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: term fuel trim, look and see where is it and 601 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: I can make recommendations off of that. So you know, 602 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: at this point without a board scope is not much more. 603 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna look at it. You've got to just you know, 604 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: start it up and hope for the best. Um. I 605 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: see and you know we we put the plugs in 606 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: with a beam U tour cranch known to be in 607 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: good conditioned um to the factory specification that that plug 608 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: did feel funny. But if it did except the tour 609 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: um uh any thoughts on it didn't script going in? 610 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Can I expect those threads to hold the blood or 611 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: well if you can hand tork at the spec threads 612 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: should hold the threads should hold the plug. So if 613 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: what's the spect pounds? If I remember right something along 614 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: those lines, Wow, Honda. Honda actually says third teams. I 615 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: looked at m g K for a fourteen millimeter it 616 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: said eighteen that like you said over, I believe, So 617 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: I split the difference to them between the two and 618 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: did fifteen. Yeah, you'll be fine. You want to nudge 619 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: it to eighteen, you'll be fine too, if you can 620 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: hold If it can hold fifteen to eighteen foot pounds 621 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: of torque. Then you're good to go, and I wouldn't 622 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: worry about it. I gotta go, I gotta uh yeah, right, 623 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: I have to go to him. They're they're they're telling 624 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: me the clock's coming up. But um I would started up, 625 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: put the plugs in, it, started up, and see what happens. 626 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: If you've got noise, you've got a problem. If you don't, 627 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: you're good to go, and then do your maintenance. I'll 628 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me zero zero. We're back 629 00:34:47,800 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: right after this. I ain't ever being with the woman. 630 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: I've heard people say that too much of anything, it's 631 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: not good for your baby. But I don't know. Buck 632 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: there minutes hands that we've loved, and we've shed love 633 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: and made loves. It doesn't seem to me like I 634 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: said love. Yeah, we could go on all our boy. 635 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: That one's for you, Steve Zach weren't needing the car 636 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: dock here here. Let's go over to John and see 637 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: you bring Florida. John, you feel a little juiced up? Now? 638 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: How can I help you in your BMW? Sir? Hey, Ron, 639 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't have it yet, but I'm looking to buy 640 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: buy one that uh was in an accident and I'm 641 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: wondering anything to really look for to keep my eyes open. Yeah, 642 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: the concern, the concerned I'd have here, John, is more 643 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: an electronic examination than the visual physical one, all right, 644 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: And I would I would just want someone with a 645 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: dealer level capable scan tool, not just O B D two, 646 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: to be able to go through every system electronically and 647 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: do a system scan and as anything reporting a fault 648 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: code are all the monitors run to completion, meaning that 649 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: the emission system is ready to go. And obviously then 650 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: you know fit finished paint, body, seems, those type of things. 651 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: And then we're aftermarket parts used or were they BMW 652 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: original equipment parts? Um? You know that's the third part 653 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: of this. But an electronic examination is just as important, 654 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: if not more so on a BMW on a highline 655 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: car like that. I hope that doesn't for you, that 656 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't for us. I'm on any of the car, doctor. 657 00:36:50,560 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you second dollar