1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the stacks. DJ. Buck 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck? What is the word manna? 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: Not too much here? We are read ready to see 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: some preseason actions. So I'm excited about it. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, preseason action is here. A lot to get excited about, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to. If you were going 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: to say, let's go rookies, let's go, let's take the 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks out of the mix. Buck, So if we're looking around, 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: we've got all these wide receivers to choose from. We've 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: got some linemen, We've got some pass rushers, some young 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers to keep an eye on. Give me one 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: or two names you're interested in watching here with some 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: of these rookies. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with the people's champ first, and 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: that is key on Coleman. I want to see DJ 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: if maybe we just met, we slept on him as 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: a first round pick. I know he went in the 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: top of the second round, but remember the buzz most 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: of the fall was he was going to be a 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: top ten, top fifteen pick. He didn't go. But everything 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: that you hear out of Bill camp is just how 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: easy the game has been for him. His high IQ. 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Josh Allen has been raving about him. So I want 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: to see if he's going to be a dominant player 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: right from the rip, much like Puka Nakua was a 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: surprise dominant player ken Kean Coleman jump right in and 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: be a dominant player for the Buffalo Bills from day one, 29 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: and then the other guy is look Layout two Latu 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: only because he was so good as a pass rusher, 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: and we have talked about the craftsman being able to 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: kind of jump in and have immediate success. I don't 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: know if there's a better fit for that scheme than 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: LA two in Gus Bradley's system, where he just really 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: want to make it simple and allow guys to play. 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: I want to see if he can be really impactful 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: right away. Because defense is normally ahead of the offense 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: this time of year, and because he's so instinctive in 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: terms of getting off the ball and utilizing a handful 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: of moves. I want to see if he's able to 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: make an impact right away. 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I'm look, I'm not going 43 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: to get too creative here, but Marvin Harrison Junior. Whenever 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: we get a chance to see him out there. How 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: much did we talk about it and the run up 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to the draft last year? Man, if he had good 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: quarterback play his final year like he had with CJ. Stroud, 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: even though you know he was a buzzy player and 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: someone I think most casuals knew about. I think we 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: could have been talking about, Oh, this is like they 51 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: would have been so much juice and excitement about him 52 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: entering into the league. And now I'm like, Okay, him 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. Maybe I'll kind of group them all together. 54 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much we'll see of their frontline 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: guys in the preseason in Arizona, but that's one of 56 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: those teams and offenses and Marvin being a big part 57 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: of that. I'm excited to see how that looks. That 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: looks like that could be kind of a nightmare to defend. 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: It absolutely can be a nightmare to Devin Just and in 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: thinking of what he can be. Like the thing about 61 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junr. And my comparison was for Larry Fitzgerald 62 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: and just in terms of like someone dead is like, 63 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: just break the box open, put him on the field 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: and let him go. He's ready to be year number one. 65 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: That's how he struck me. Just like Larry Fitzgerald was 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: when he was coming out of Pitt Marvin Harrison Junior 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: was smooth, he was fluid, he was polished. I don't 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: know how he is, but I do know he plays 69 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: the game like the traditional number ones have played the 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: game for a long time. To me, he's a high 71 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: end receiver. And putting him in Arizona where he will 72 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: have Lar Fitzgerald to come through every now and then 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: to drop some nuggets, I can only imagine how I 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: can't even imagine how good he would be right away. 75 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, and again, all these guys. 76 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: We'll break it down next week too. We'll have a 77 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts on what we saw for the weekend. 78 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited to dig into the tape, not just TV stuff, 79 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: but actually dig into the tape and watch what transpired 80 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: for the Jags. You're calling Jags games. I've got Charger games. 81 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: So give me one name on the Jags. A rookie 82 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be a top guy, but just 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: someone you're looking forward to seeing, you think might pop 84 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: a little bit here in the preseason bucket. 85 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm gonna go right away with the first 86 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: round pick. There's so much excitement about Brian Thomas Jr. 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: He's really gifted, DJ, It's really easy for him, but 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: you haven't been able to really launch the deep ball 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: in training camp. I want to see if he has 90 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: an opportunity early to just tease the football world with 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: his big playability. He did it like no other last year, 92 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: even though he played with my league neighbors. Seventeen touchdowns. 93 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: That's crazy production on the backside of another first round player. 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: I want to see if he can find and carve 95 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 2: a rollout for himself as the vertical specialist right away. 96 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to see him big time juice and 97 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it's always fun to see guys that look fast on 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: the college field. Does that translate over the NFL? Like 99 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: is there separation and juice like we saw from him 100 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: in college. I'm looking forward to to keep my eye 101 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: on that. I don't know. I'm not big in the 102 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: farming community. Buck or what do you call what do 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: you call baby goat? Does that have its awn years? 104 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Just a goat? Yeah? I don't know, Like, what is 105 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: a baby I don't know a lot about animals. But 106 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: because I'm going to go Brennan Rice for the Chargers 107 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: seventh round pick, I still again it was a deep 108 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: receiver draft. Man. I did not think he would be 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: there in the seventh round. And obviously Jerry Rice's son, 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: totally different style. We talked about him a good bit 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: lead up to the draft, just going out there to 112 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: practice the other day. Man, he's big, he's physical, he's strong. 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine we can see a lot of him 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: in the preseason. It'll be you know, East and Stick 115 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: and Max Duggan and company throwing him the ball. But 116 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: I think he's one you can pin this like I 117 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: think you come back next week. We might be saying, dude, 118 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: did you see the plays or the catches that he made? 119 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Like he's he's intriguing to me as someone who just 120 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: spent one day out there at training camp. 121 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: So far okay, baby goes to call kids, Okay, something there. 122 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: So we want to so we want to. We want 123 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: to see kid Rice get get get busy and see 124 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: if he can he can kind of uphold his dad's 125 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: legacy on the perimeter. 126 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: DJ. 127 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: When you watch this, dude, man, this dude has some 128 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: jews to him. He has some spectacular playmaking ability that 129 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: he offers. And on a team that everyone is looking 130 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: around trying to figure out who where they get into 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: production on the perimeter, maybe he kind of surprises from 132 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: the gate. The one thing that we know, he's gonna 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: get every opportunity because it is a meritocracy there, and 134 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: so he's gonna get a chance to kind of show 135 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: and prove that he can be one of those guys 136 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: that deserves to be into rotation to see if he 137 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: can make some plays. 138 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and some irony there right. Think about Jim Harbaugh 139 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: and the war that he had with USC when he 140 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: was at Stanford and and here he's got a trojan 141 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: receiver to throw into the mix. There's lots of different 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: layers that too. We think about that Chargers team, Joey 143 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: Boso Ohio State. You got the Michigan Ohio State thing 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: there as well. So a lot of storylines talk about 145 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: with the Charges as we get into the preseason. Buck, 146 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: you wrote an article recently looking at these quarterbacks that 147 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: got paid, and there were a number of them this offseason. 148 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: So you can take this whatever direction you want to 149 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: go through. What I want to go through all these 150 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: guys and and give me your thoughts on how this 151 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: ends up working out for all parties involved. Yeah. 152 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: So, and in doing the article DJ, what we wanted 153 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: to do is we want to talk about the player. 154 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: We want to talk about why he was worth the 155 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: money that he got and why it's a risk to 156 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: pay the player the amount of money that you played 157 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: when you paid them. 158 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, so let's start us off here, Buck, you 159 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: can work your way through them. 160 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's start with Jerry Goff and the reason 161 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: why he's worth it is the winning pedigree. You can 162 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: see a lot of things about Jerry Goff since the 163 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: end of the league, but Jerry Golf has been a 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: multiple time Pro Bowl, Jerry Goff has led a team 165 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl, and Jered Goff has helped I 166 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: would say engineer the renaissance in Motown. The Detroit Lions 167 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: are able to do where they do offensively because Jerry Golf, 168 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: to me, is the perfect point guard for this team. 169 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: We may not talk about him being I would say 170 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: elite when it comes to the tools, but he certainly 171 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: is elite in terms of the way he manages and 172 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: distributes the ball to the playmakers, and I will say 173 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions have a cast that is terrific, right, 174 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Amama Saint Brown. You think about Sam Laport or Jameson Williams. 175 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: You got a two running backs in Montgomery and Jimiy Gibbs. 176 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: They can come at you a bunch of different ways, 177 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: but without the point guard, it doesn't work. And Jerry Goff, 178 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: to me, is the ultimate point guard, which is why 179 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: he's worth it. The risk is I think some would 180 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: say the low ceiling. How much more can Jery Goff 181 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: give you? If it's not the playmakers playing at a 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: high level, How can he elevate the team if it's 183 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: really on him. We've had the conversation for years about 184 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: trucks and trailers and where with Jared Goff fall into 185 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: that equation. I don't know what kind of truck he 186 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: would be, how much he could haul, but I certainly 187 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: know he's a high end trailer. With the rest of 188 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: the pieces around him, they're worthy, They're good enough to 189 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: get to a super Bowl with him, But I don't 190 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: know if they can get to the super Bowl strictly 191 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: because of him elevating his game and doing it with 192 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: nondescript players on the perimeter. 193 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: You know how we love to do the little word 194 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: twists there. You talked about trucks and trailers, something we 195 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of birthed on this pod. Maybe, gosh, it might 196 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: be a decade ago, by a long time about it forever. 197 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: So when you look at these contracts and you're going 198 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: through all of them, I'm thinking about the locker room, 199 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: and I put two words down. Applause from your teammates 200 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: or apprehension from your means now apprehensive. Let me read 201 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you the definition of apprehensive, because I just looked this up. 202 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Apprehensive anxious or fearful that something bad or unpleasant will happen. 203 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: We've seen some quarterback deals get done or I think 204 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: it's fair to say that some people, maybe in the 205 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: locker room as well as maybe in the coaching staff 206 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: or upstairs, could be a little bit apprehensive about how 207 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: this whole thing's going to work out. I think with 208 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, I think everybody's universally excited. I think it's 209 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: easy for us to say it's not our money. I 210 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: think that's an easy check to write based off what 211 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: he's done in his career. 212 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: I think so, And I think the only reason you 213 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: would have some apprehension is we always talk about it. 214 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: Can you envision a quarterback having the confetti fall on 215 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: his shoulder? 216 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 217 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: I think that would be tested if we said, hey, 218 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: is Jerry Golf versus Pat Mahomes in a shootout to 219 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: win it? How much confidence do we have that Jerry 220 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: Golf can elevate his game to knock off Pat Mahomes. 221 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: But though he has the Dam's Chiefs game that was 222 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: one of the highest scoring, craziest games in NFL. 223 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: History, he has done it. And the only reason there's 224 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: apprehension in because in the scouting world, in our mind, 225 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: we're always looking at tools and traits and all this 226 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: other stuff as opposed to the final product. I believe 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: that's the only reason why would be considered the risk 228 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: is in that scenario when we talk about the confetti test, 229 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: and hey, Jerry Golf versus Josh Allen, Jerry Golf versus 230 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and a winner go home shootout, do you 231 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: have enough confidence that Jered Golf could win it if 232 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the team isn't playing at a high level. 233 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they've built up the roster around him 234 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: too that there's enough support that he can he can 235 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: pass that test. My opinion on that one. But I mean, oh, 236 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm right there. They're right on doorstep. 237 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: And look, if you go back and look at the 238 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: NC Championship game, they should have been in the Super Bowl. Yeah, 239 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: Like they dominated the game for the greater part of 240 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: the game and they let it slip. Now they have 241 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: the test is can they go back and take the 242 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: next step. 243 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: We'll see what it looks like. All right, keep us 244 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: going through the list. Term here we go. 245 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Jordan Love from the Green Bay Packers. Why 246 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: he's worth it? Look, he played at an MVP level 247 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: last year. Why is risky one year? 248 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: Wonder? 249 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: So when we think about why he's worth it, DJ 250 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: he had a stretch where he had twenty one touchdowns 251 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: and only one interception from Week eleven through the wildcard round. 252 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: He was absolutely on fire. He did it with a 253 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: cast of no names around him, a bunch of young 254 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: emerging receivers but no one that's established in the league. 255 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: From all of the wide receivers on the outside to 256 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: the two edd tandem at tight end, all young guys 257 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: all scratching and klawn to do it for a quarterback. 258 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: To be able to do that with so many young 259 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: pieces around him speaks volumes about who he is and 260 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: what he is. That said, he did it for half 261 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: a season, So we're paying him fifty five million dollars 262 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: based on seven eight games of work where we saw 263 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: him at his best. In the league, quarterbacks are evaluated 264 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: on how they counter the counters, meaning when the league 265 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: gets a book on them, are they able to write 266 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: new chapters to the book to deal with how the 267 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: league is going to react to him this year after 268 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: really studying his game. Is risky because it's unknown. We 269 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: don't know how he's done it because we've never seen 270 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: him have to adapt and adjust to the way new 271 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: defensive coordinators or defensive coordinators will implement new game plans. 272 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: That's the risk involved. But look, the talent is there. 273 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: It took him four years to get to the field, 274 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: but man, he certainly proved the Packers right when he 275 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: got into the field because he played great. 276 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I like him, I believe in him. 277 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: I was just hopeful, at least from the team side 278 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: of things, that they'd be able to get just maybe 279 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a discount with having such a 280 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: small sample size, that's a big bet. Like I'm happy 281 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: betting on him because of what we saw last year 282 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: it was impressive, but because of the sample size, I 283 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: didn't think they'd have to go to the tippy top 284 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: of the market. That to me was maybe just a 285 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: surprise there. 286 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: Huge surprise. I mean, it's huge surprise. But then we 287 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: always talked about it, if not him, who, if you 288 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: don't Love, who's in that one? And so they had 289 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: to do it. But the risk is can he get 290 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: back to the level that we saw him at his 291 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: best and can he sustain it over the long call 292 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: in Green Bay where you've had two Hall of Fame 293 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: quarterbacks play back to back. Brad far I've handed off 294 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: to Aaron. Aaron Rodgers now hands it off to Jordan Love. 295 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: Can Jordan Love play at a gold jacket level? That 296 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: is TBD? 297 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. 298 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: We come back. We've got I think we got four 299 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: left here, four big quarterback contracts we're going to get 300 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: into right after this. All right, Buck, who's next up? 301 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: All right? Trevor Lawrence, Someone near and dear to my heart, 302 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: The Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback has called a lot of conversation. 303 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: He might be now the most polarizing quarterback that we 304 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: see in the game based on how much he got paid, 305 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: got his fifty five million dollars deal, and so people 306 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: want to know why Lawrence worth it. Talent potential. You're 307 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: the number one overall pick in the draft. You've been 308 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: held and celebrated as the top prospect since Andrew Luck 309 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: and John Elway. He has all the traits that you 310 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: look for, size, arm, talent, athleticism, great leadership skills. All 311 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: that is great. He has a young cast of dynamic 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: playmakers around him that when they've been at their best, 313 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: look they've been a winning team. They've been a playoff team. 314 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: He bounced back from a poor performance in a wildcard 315 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: round in the first half to win a game that 316 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to win when you're down by as 317 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: much as they were down. So all of that is positive, 318 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: and people forget last season the Jaguars were eight and 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: three at the top of the AFC and then it 320 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: fell apart. But it fell apart because Trevor Lawrence got hurt. 321 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: And so if he doesn't get hurt, how did they 322 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: finish the season? So that's one thing. Why is the 323 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: risk turnovers? DJ has more turnovers than anybody in the 324 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: National Football League since he entered. Like people love to 325 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: bring up the stats comparing him to Daniel Jones and 326 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: all that other stuff, but the facts are the facts. 327 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: You have sixty turnovers in three years, that's a lot 328 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: of turnovers. Last year at twenty one giveaways, that's too 329 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: many fourteen interceptions, seven fumbles. Can he take care of 330 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: the ball and make better decisions in the red zone? 331 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: And the final part of the risk is not only 332 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: the turnovers, but the consistent elevation. Elite quarterbacks show you 333 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: four or five times a game why they're elite. Trevor 334 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: hasn't done that consistently enough to go all in on 335 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: him being an elite player. Well, now that you have 336 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: the contract in hand, he has to demonstrate that while 337 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: also taking care of the ball. He has to show 338 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: each and every week this is why he's elite, This 339 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: is why he's worthy of being a fifty five million 340 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: dollars quarterback. 341 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: He has to be on the level when you look 342 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: inside the division at c J Stroud and c J 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Stroud is coming off one year, but like they pay 344 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: him what they paid him. They paid him to be 345 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: at the level or to be the best quarterback in 346 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: the division. We can't be sitting here. You're saying c J. 347 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: Stroud is clearly the best quarterback in this division. Trevor's 348 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: not there that that will make this a very bad deal. 349 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: He has to at least get that to an even matchup. 350 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're saying is in the AFC South, 351 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: this needs to look like the Olympic one final. It 352 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: needs to be a photo finished where we're trying to 353 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: figure out which quarterback is really the best quarterback in 354 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: the AFC South and it needs to be Trevor Lawrence 355 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: and CJ. Stroud or Trevor Lawrence and somebody else. But 356 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: we're saying Trevor Lawrence and c J. 357 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Stroud. 358 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: It needs to be neck and neck to see who 359 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: wins the division. Uh yeah, you talk about the fifty 360 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: million dollar club. You got to play at that level. 361 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: How about Tua Okay, so makes a TOA makes the 362 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: track team go two. Is the first leg on the 363 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: relay team because he is the one that gives the 364 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: baton to the fast guys and makes it work. When 365 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: he has been healthy and available, This offense is terrific. 366 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: It looks like a video game offense when you are 367 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: giving the ball to look in essence an Olympic level 368 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: track team Jaylen Wado, Tyreek Hill, Ryane Moster devon a chain. 369 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: You got obj in the mix when he is dealing 370 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: from the pocket. This offense is unstoppable. He look, he's 371 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: going over four thousand yards back to back. You talk 372 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: about passer rating near the top of the charts whenever 373 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: he is being able to play with his crew. So 374 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: he certainly has the upside in the I would say 375 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: the production to be worthy of being a fifty five 376 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: million dollars quarterback. The reason it's risky is simply the 377 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: injury history. Going back to college, it was the hip. 378 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Then you go to the pros just to concussion, and 379 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: you just worry will he be able to be in 380 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: the lineup each and every week? Last year he was 381 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: able to do it. Can he do it going forward? 382 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: Because the one thing that you don't want is a 383 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: quarterback with a contract that's an albatross around the franchise 384 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: because the quarterback isn't available to play. If he's available, 385 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: then too is gonna make it will worth the risk 386 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: but if he's not, then it becomes a situation that look, 387 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: you look back, and you might have some regret about 388 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: putting so much into a quarterback who has been offended. 389 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: Real quick, buck, I'm gonna read to a report coming 390 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: out of college because when he got paid, it's always 391 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: fun to go back and look at that. Tulac's ideal 392 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: height for the position, but he has quick feet, eyes 393 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and release. He primarily operates in the gun, but he'll 394 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: take some snaps under center. Very crisp and urgent in 395 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: his setup. Throws off a firm platform, spins the ball well. 396 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: He always throws with the proper pace on slants and crossers. 397 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't have an overpowering arm, but he can still place 398 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: balls in tight windows. Understands how to hold to manipulate 399 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: safeties with his eyes. Makes good decisions in the RPO game. 400 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: He's a nifty runner, but prefers to buy time behind 401 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: the line and remain in passing mode. Did struggle with 402 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: identifying some underneath defenders when in the red zone. Coming 403 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: off a serious hip injury, that must be factored into 404 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: his evaluation. Overall, Tua is the ultimate point guard if 405 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: he can remain healthy. He has the potential to be 406 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: one of the NFL's most efficient passers, and he's been there. 407 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: He's been very efficient when he's been healthy and available, He's. 408 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Lived to what he was supposed to be. 409 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and look, he's a hard he's a hard 410 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: player to debate because of the injuries making polarized. The 411 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: other part that makes him polarizing people always talk about, 412 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: much like Rock Purdy, he's propped up by those around him, 413 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: but DJ is there are few quarterbacks that aren't at 414 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: the mercy of their supporting cast when it comes to 415 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: their production. The myth that like, oh, quarterbacks can elevate 416 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: the players those around them, Yeah, a little bit, but 417 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: you still got to have players to make it to 418 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: make it happen. And so for Tua, it's just a 419 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: matter of him playing at the level and just being available. 420 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: If he's available for all seventeen. Look, there's no doubt 421 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: he's certainly worth the money that they're paying. 422 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: And I think this is it's kind of a complicated, 423 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: nuanced discussion, but I think there are more talented players 424 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: than him at the position that wouldn't fare as well 425 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: in that offense. I yeah, he's perfectly suited for that offense. 426 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: There might be some other big arm guys that play 427 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: well and make big plays with their legs and their 428 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: big arms. I don't think they would offer operate that 429 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: offense is efficiently as he does, the way he processes 430 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: and the way the ball gets out accurately and quickly. Yeah. No. 431 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: One thing we talked about in evaluation fit in scheme. 432 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: How does a player fit in the scheme? I don't 433 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: know if there's a better fit in Mike McDaniel's scheme 434 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: than two a tiny bellow. How about Kirk o So, 435 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins is really interesting because he's worth it because 436 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: of the consistency and the experience. DJ. If I tell 437 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: you can get a veteran quarterback with seven four thousand 438 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: yard seasons, a guy that is consistent winner, a guy 439 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: that really shines during the regular season, you take that 440 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: all day. He's been that. He's been terrific in terms 441 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: of just in the regular season, being able to really 442 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: light it up and be effective and efficient with the 443 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: people around him. And he's done it in two locations. 444 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: He did it with Washington, he's done it in Minnesota. 445 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: He's done it in Minnesota with older players. He's done 446 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: with younger players, and so you know exactly what you're getting. 447 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: When I tell you that someone has a two hundred 448 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: and seventy to one ten touchdown in interception ratio and 449 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: a career passer rating near one hundred, you love that. 450 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: So all of those things are positive. Why is risky? Age? 451 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: Injuries and the quarterback that's behind him? In Michael Pennis, 452 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: you know you have a quarterback that is older, you 453 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: have injuries where he's coming off in Achilles, and you 454 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: have Michael Pennix, your first round pick, who at some 455 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: point is going to take the ball from Kirk Cousins. 456 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: You paid him a significant amount of money. So if 457 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: he's available and if he plays well, that's great. By 458 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: how long? When's the expiration date on the milk? When 459 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: does the milk spoil and you have to go and 460 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: get another carton? So the other carton is already in 461 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: the refrigerator. In Michael Penni's like, or how are do 462 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: you manage this? If you're Ringy Morris? And so that 463 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: is the risk. The risk is dealing with an older 464 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: quarterback who everyone in the building knows has an exploration date, 465 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: because eventually you can give the ball to the young quarterback. 466 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, that's the intriguing factor 467 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: of that contract is just what happened after the deal 468 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: was done. But I will say on Cousins my last 469 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: thought on him him. I'm obviously, as you know, I'm 470 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: a lifelong Padre fan, and I remember Machado was having 471 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: was struggling. It might have been this year or the 472 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: year before, but somebody asked him, like, are you worried? Man? 473 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: You know you're not playing as well. And he's like no, 474 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: He's like, look at the back of the baseball card, like, 475 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I've got ten years of consistent production. Like I feel 476 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins is kind of like that. Like if 477 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: he posts in place seventeen weeks, he's going to put 478 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: up good numbers. He's done it for a long period 479 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: of time. Right now, He's kind of a made man 480 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: in that regard. I love that. Is that great? 481 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: Like they come on, man, don't worry about my confidence. Dude, 482 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: I know what this is. I look at the back 483 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: of a baseball card. But for Kirk Cousins DJ seven 484 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: four thousand yard seasons. We can said a lot of 485 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: things about what Kirk Cousins can't do. But when Kirk 486 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: Cousin gets the ball and he shows up, they put 487 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: up points and they put up yards. And as a quarterback, 488 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: that's part of what the job is. You got to 489 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: put up numbers and it has to be because of you, 490 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins certainly has done that. 491 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: All right. 492 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: How about Baker Baker Mayfield former number one overall pick. 493 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: He settled in after bouncing around from Cleveland to Carolina 494 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: to La, finds his way to Tampa and really surprised 495 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: everyone with the way he played. He's worth it because 496 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: I say swagger and spirals. The confidence that he has 497 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: is unbelievable. It's infectious. His teammates feel it. He has 498 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: been I would say humble going into Tampa while still 499 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: retaining the edge that has made Baker Mayfield great. The spirals. 500 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: This dude, we talked about it like I think some 501 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: people have talked about him being just a manager, But 502 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: when you watch him up close and personal, he can 503 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: spend it. He has terrific arm talent. He can make throws, 504 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: and it worked in Tampa because they surrounded him with 505 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: big body playmakers Chris godw and Mike Evans. Those guys 506 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: are able to put it in the paint, and Baker 507 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: is the right guy for the job. The Tampa Bay 508 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: Buccaneers found their way into the postseason, and they could 509 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: do more damage in the post season with him really 510 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: comfortable and settled in as the QB one. 511 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's going to be kind of a 512 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: north star for some teams too, of trying to find 513 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: the guy who we feel like we're we can marry 514 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: the talent with the fit. It's kind of what we 515 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit into it. Maybe if Tua 516 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: had been dropped in some other systems, other personnel, it 517 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: didn't work. It just works. It works with Baker there 518 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: with what they have, and I think we'll see Sam 519 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Darnold is going to be an interesting case study in 520 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota if he plays really well. And I know they've 521 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: got JJ, but you know, is that something if he 522 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: plays really well that they try and keep Sam around 523 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: for a while, Like that's going to be you know, 524 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: I think Baker is kind of that target of saying, 525 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: let's find a talented guy. Maybe it just didn't fit 526 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: perfectly where he was, and let's see how he rolls 527 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: with what we have in place. 528 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's it like the risk when it 529 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: comes to Baker Mayfield is just the journeyman's game. He's 530 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: bounced around a few different players. So there's the apprehension 531 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: that you have, like why did he bounce around? If 532 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: he's so good, why is he bouncing around? Why did 533 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: it take him so long to kind of find the 534 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: right fit for him? And that's look a legitimate question. 535 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: But if you're Tampa, you probably feel good about him 536 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: winning the competition that he had to win last year, 537 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: the way did he perform last season, and the way 538 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: that he continues to endear himself to his teammates. We 539 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: talked about the quarterback position being more than the talent. 540 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: It is about the connectivity. The best quarterbacks are able 541 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: to connect with their teammates and their teammates feel like 542 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: they're playing for him as opposed to just playing with him. 543 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: He does a really good job of connecting with his teammates, 544 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: and so even though we may ask some questions about 545 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: his journey, his effectiveness with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers makes 546 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: it a very, very worthwhile investment. 547 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Yep, there you go. You can check out that article 548 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: by the way NFL dot com or Buck Ranks, and 549 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I took one out of order by the way there 550 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: because you had him, you know, with the risks involved there. 551 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Baker was five on the list and I had him 552 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: discuss six. So him and cousins with flipped. But again 553 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: check that out NFL dot Com. Great great article, Buck, 554 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: great idea. As we look at all these new quarterback 555 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: deals and man, it's preseasons here, buddy, we've got games tonight. 556 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: We'll be recapping all those next week with three fresh episodes. 557 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: Anything you want to add before we jump out of here. 558 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: No, man, it's here. We're kicking it off. We get 559 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: a chance to see some of these guys live out 560 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: their dreams. More importantly, we get to be on the 561 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: call and talk about some of these great games. 562 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Now excited about it? All right, that's gonna do it 563 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: for us. We will catch you next time right here on, 564 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Move the sticks.