Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Our first child, our daughter, was three, when my middle
Speaker 1: son was born. I admit we were largely cruising along.
Speaker 1: She was just an insanely good baby, slept through the
Speaker 1: night at seven weeks old, but really came home from
Speaker 1: the hospital doing these amazing four hour sleep stretches that
Speaker 1: had us believing that we were like baby experts and
Speaker 1: not realizing that we had just gotten lucky. Then our
Speaker 1: eldest son was born. He came home from the hospital
Speaker 1: sleeping forty five minute stretches. He was crankier, he cried more,
Speaker 1: all of it. I remember being such a walking zombie.
Speaker 1: It was the first time in my life that I
Speaker 1: understood how it was possible for a parent to leave
Speaker 1: a child in a car. I never did, thank god,
Speaker 1: but I truly remember this one time getting my daughter
Speaker 1: out of her car seat and being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a second one, and he's like sleeping quietly.
Speaker 2: I have to remember to take him.
Speaker 1: I was so out of it, and then my mom
Speaker 1: just started showing up at my house. She had come
Speaker 1: over a lot after I had my daughter too, But
Speaker 1: something unspoken happened after I had my son, she realized
Speaker 1: I needed her and she started coming every single morning.
Speaker 1: We made her a key and she'd let herself in.
Speaker 2: She'd get my daughter ready.
Speaker 1: For school or take my son for a walk so
Speaker 1: I could sleep. At the same time, my in laws
Speaker 1: were super involved as well.
Speaker 2: My mother in law would have.
Speaker 1: A standing weekly date to take my daughter to a
Speaker 1: Hebrew music class. She'd take her to the park. They
Speaker 1: would do stuff together. Also, my brother was single and
Speaker 1: my husband's sister was single, and they would babysit all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: All of this to say that I had.
Speaker 1: A large amount of family help with my kids, and
Speaker 1: I kind of don't understand any other way. When my
Speaker 1: brother had his kids, I babysat for them. If we
Speaker 1: hadn't moved from New York to Florida, that would probably
Speaker 1: be a regular thing. My mom now helps my brother
Speaker 1: every day and she wouldn't trade it for anything.
Speaker 2: My kids know that I.
Speaker 1: Consider it a top priority for them to get married
Speaker 1: and have kids, and I'm committed to helping with those
Speaker 1: kids the same way that my mother and my in
Speaker 1: laws did for me. I say all of this because
Speaker 1: the fabulous Jane Ridley, who I got to know when
Speaker 1: she was at The New York Post has a piece
Speaker 1: up at Business Insider about how millennials want their parents
Speaker 1: to help with their kids, but the parents don't want to,
Speaker 1: and this piece is making a splash online.
Speaker 2: People are arguing, you know, who's right and who's wrong.
Speaker 1: Here, Jane shares the story of one grandmother, Marjorie Hirschberg,
Speaker 1: who told her daughter and then told the media that
Speaker 1: she didn't want to help anymore. In the piece, Jane
Speaker 1: quotes Hirshburg as being concerned because the grandchildren quote thought
Speaker 1: she had two separate homes mine and her parents, said Hirschburg,
Speaker 1: who had set up a room for two of the
Speaker 1: grandchildren in her house. Her verdict to stop watching the kids,
Speaker 1: she said, was prompted by one of the grandchildren saying,
Speaker 1: let's go to mommy's house, as opposed to let's go.
Speaker 2: To my house.
Speaker 1: It's just insane. My kids have a room at their grandparents' house.
Speaker 1: It has a bed for each of them, toys, books,
Speaker 1: it's a place of safety and comfort. It's wild to
Speaker 1: me that a grandparent somehow wouldn't want that.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 1: As a generation exer, I'm very quick to think millennials
Speaker 1: or gen z are spoiled and wrong about almost everything.
Speaker 1: But I get the argument that grandparents should be involved
Speaker 1: in the lives of their grandchildren. No one is saying
Speaker 1: stop living. I assure anyone listening that my in laws
Speaker 1: have a much more.
Speaker 2: Active social life than you do.
Speaker 1: They go out with their friends all the time, they
Speaker 1: travel a lot. My father in law still works full time.
Speaker 2: But they love.
Speaker 1: Being with their grandkids, and their grandkids love being with them.
Speaker 2: We've created the.
Speaker 1: Kind of world where I don't have to say to
Speaker 1: my kids, now, go give grandma a hug, because they
Speaker 1: run straight into their arms. I read a lot of
Speaker 1: stories like this, and I wish people would ask themselves,
Speaker 1: what's the point. What's the point of my life if
Speaker 1: not to spend it with my family. Again, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you can't do other things, But if your grandchild
Speaker 1: being extremely comfortable in your home makes you uncomfortable, that's
Speaker 1: just bizarre. Family is everything, and if you're lucky enough
Speaker 1: to have a good one, it's just crazy to me
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't do everything possible to maintain that closeness.
Speaker 1: Coming up next and interview with Kennedy. Join us after
Speaker 1: the break, Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz
Speaker 1: Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is the amazing Kennedy,
Speaker 1: one of the hosts of Fox News Saturday Night and
Speaker 1: the podcast Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Saves the World.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for being on Kennedy, Carol. I will
Speaker 3: go anywhere and talk anytime with you.
Speaker 1: Well, so, first of all, I was watching Fox News
Speaker 1: Saturday Night and I don't understand how you play fake
Speaker 1: News or Florida without me.
Speaker 2: That game is my life.
Speaker 4: If you were in New York, you could have been
Speaker 4: one of our panelists.
Speaker 3: Absolutely you would have, and you might have been a
Speaker 3: ringer like you might have done so well that it
Speaker 3: would have shamed everyone else. I was surprised how well
Speaker 3: Charlie Gasperino did.
Speaker 4: He was really ran the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I only got one of them wrong.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I would have won. And that's
Speaker 1: why you didn't want to have me on.
Speaker 4: I get it. You know, maybe you and Charlie could
Speaker 4: have a head to head next time.
Speaker 1: So I would say that you're probably the most famous
Speaker 1: libertarian around.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 1: Say?
Speaker 4: In the world?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: World?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wait, there are those like lists of libertarians we love
Speaker 3: comes out. I'm I'm like what numbered seven hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty No, I never.
Speaker 1: Paul. Okay, yeah, okay, second to Ron Paul. Fine, the
Speaker 1: Pauls don't count really, I mean, okay, non politician libertarians.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of very famous libertarians out there,
Speaker 3: are there a lot of libertarian because you know that
Speaker 3: libertarians have to like if you are if you claim
Speaker 3: to be a libertarian, there are one hundred libertarians pop
Speaker 3: up Troy, Troy, you're non or you say this one
Speaker 3: thing one time, so you're estranged warmonger.
Speaker 2: You are right, I get that.
Speaker 1: So what do you think people misunderstand about being a libertarian?
Speaker 3: Well, it now means so many different things. So I've
Speaker 3: got a good friend who no longer calls herself a libertarian.
Speaker 3: She calls herself a classical liberal because she feels like
Speaker 3: the term has been bastard. And you know, people who
Speaker 3: claim to be libertarians have been marginalized in this playpen
Speaker 3: of absurdity. And you know, the people assume that libertarians
Speaker 3: just want everything to be like Pioneer Courthouse Square and Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 4: Right, they just want you know.
Speaker 3: It's like drugs and sexual assaults, and you know, people
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 4: I can't get enough.
Speaker 5: And just like you know, feces everywhere sea and like
Speaker 5: that is somehow the libertarian ideal, and for me, that
Speaker 5: is not the ideal.
Speaker 3: It's actually a civil society where people have agreed upon
Speaker 3: rules and there are also agreed upon punishment. So if
Speaker 3: you violate the rules, you know what you're up against,
Speaker 3: which you know it is an imbalance of punishment in
Speaker 3: places like Portland, which you know, they've taken these great
Speaker 3: cities Francisco, La, Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland and they've just flushed
Speaker 3: him down the toilet. And you know, I was talking
Speaker 3: to one economist who said that Portland committed suicide. And
Speaker 3: many of these choices have been overt and leaders have gone,
Speaker 3: you know what, Yeah, let's encourage people to sleep literally anywhere.
Speaker 3: Let's stop arresting people for just about anything, and let's
Speaker 3: have this free for all, so you can no longer
Speaker 3: have free association and what used to be one of
Speaker 3: the most livable cities in the country.
Speaker 1: Right, So I noticed he don't say New York though
Speaker 1: in that list, I.
Speaker 4: Was sticking out West. But New York. New York has
Speaker 4: its own set of problems.
Speaker 3: New York is such a big place and it's not
Speaker 3: impossible to govern, but it just has not been governed well.
Speaker 3: And to Mayor Adam's credit, I think half the time
Speaker 3: he really does try. I think that he really is
Speaker 3: plagued by frustration. I think that he's you know, phenomenally
Speaker 3: better than build the Blasio. Yeah, but he's where So No,
Speaker 3: Deblagio really did more to harm the city than any
Speaker 3: mayor I have seen since I have lived here. I
Speaker 3: haven't lived here as long as you have, but I
Speaker 3: first moved here in the fall of nineteen ninety two
Speaker 3: and have seen you know, various iterations and evolutions of
Speaker 3: the city. And build a Blasio put the city in
Speaker 3: such a downward spiral that it's impossible to recover from
Speaker 3: in one mayor old term.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people ask me, like,
Speaker 1: why didn't I leave New York sooner? And my answer
Speaker 1: to that is always like things were so good for
Speaker 1: so long that we almost expected to coast with.
Speaker 2: Deblasio, and we did for a little while.
Speaker 1: His first term was a lot of coasting on previous
Speaker 1: you know, accomplishments of you know, the Bloomberg and the
Speaker 1: Giuliani eras. But eventually we ran out of steam and
Speaker 1: his actual governance started to take cold and I had
Speaker 1: to go, Oh, but you know, I root for New
Speaker 1: York to come back. I think Mayor Adams is infinitely
Speaker 1: better than Deblasio.
Speaker 2: I think he's he can't.
Speaker 1: Really do what he wants to do in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways or say what he wants to say, which
Speaker 1: is a problem.
Speaker 2: But you know, better than the last guy, for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there's a natural power struggle between Albany and New
Speaker 3: York City because the governor of New York wants to
Speaker 3: be the boss of New York City. But New York
Speaker 3: State wouldn't be New York State without new York City, right,
Speaker 3: It's tax base.
Speaker 4: And so there you've.
Speaker 3: Got these two powerful figures who are always at odds
Speaker 3: with each other. But I think Kathy Hochel is one
Speaker 3: of the most incompetent governors in the country. I think
Speaker 3: she's absolutely awful on just about everything.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree.
Speaker 4: I'm really bombed that she won outright.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad that New Yorkers don't demand more from
Speaker 3: their leaders and with their votes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Speaker 1: So a question that I ask all of my guests
Speaker 1: is what do you think is our largest cultural or
Speaker 1: societal problem in America, and do you think it's solvable.
Speaker 3: The biggest problem is it's kind of broad, but it
Speaker 3: is the encroachment of government into all aspects of our lives.
Speaker 3: Because when government becomes so big and so powerful, when
Speaker 3: they have so much money, when we are beholden to
Speaker 3: them with our tax dollars, they do have much more
Speaker 3: say over what we do, how we can start businesses,
Speaker 3: regulating businesses, how our kids can be educated, withholding choices
Speaker 3: from parents on how their kids can be educated. And
Speaker 3: then what that turns into is when you have kids
Speaker 3: who are educated by propagandists who are beholden to the status.
Speaker 3: The status need an entire generation of people to be
Speaker 3: dependent on government to make governments flourish, and so there
Speaker 3: it fosters this climate of victimhood where you know, kids
Speaker 3: are told that they are either victims or they are oppressors,
Speaker 3: but either way they are at odds with each other.
Speaker 3: And the only thing that can break that cultural stalemate
Speaker 3: is government intervention. And you know, it is created this
Speaker 3: vicious cycle that it's going to be very very difficult
Speaker 3: to break free from.
Speaker 4: I do have hope.
Speaker 3: I you know, I have two teenage girls I talk
Speaker 3: to them, I talk to their friends. We talk about politics,
Speaker 3: and I'm finding, especially with some of the teenage boys
Speaker 3: that I talk to, that they are much more skeptical
Speaker 3: of government. It's really funny because the only way to
Speaker 3: rebel nowadays it's it's not to be it's not to
Speaker 3: be trans you know, it's not to be non binary.
Speaker 3: It's to be a Republican and so and a lot
Speaker 3: of teenage boys like all they want to do is
Speaker 3: pissed people off, and so they found the easiest way
Speaker 3: to do that is to be Republican.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine any child of Kennedy's is going to
Speaker 1: be status.
Speaker 2: So you know, no, I told them.
Speaker 3: I told my girls, Like then, it's really funny that
Speaker 3: you say that because.
Speaker 4: You are from Russia. My mom is from Romania.
Speaker 3: And the only rule that I have, like, I don't
Speaker 3: care if you're a Democrat. I don't care if you're
Speaker 3: a democratic socially not be a communist in my house. Like,
Speaker 3: if you can back up whatever you say and whatever
Speaker 3: you believe with facts, with data, with statistics, that's fine.
Speaker 3: We can have a discussion. We can have a rational discussion.
Speaker 3: I'll be skeptical of you. You can be skeptical of me.
Speaker 3: We'll find areas of agreement. You may not be a
Speaker 3: communist if you are. If you're a communistic, you may
Speaker 3: not live in my house. You may not take my
Speaker 3: stuff I am. You are not entitled to anything I have.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you got your start very famously as a VJ
Speaker 1: and MTV, and you know, I feel like so many
Speaker 1: people just remember you being such a unique voice on there.
Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of like pushback from people?
Speaker 1: Were you, you know, a libertarian then? You know, was
Speaker 1: everybody around you a communist?
Speaker 4: I was a libertarian. There weren't a lot of communists.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of moderate Clinton Democrats, and they
Speaker 3: were really excited and they had a lot of momentum
Speaker 3: going into the nineties because I was hired at MTV
Speaker 3: in September of nineteen ninety two. The election obviously was
Speaker 3: in November, and the Clinton era began when my time
Speaker 3: at MTV began.
Speaker 4: So you had a lot of people who were, you know.
Speaker 3: Very pleased with being in the majority after twelve years
Speaker 3: of Reagan Bush and it was it was interesting because
Speaker 3: it was a little bit more politically charitable. I did
Speaker 3: get pushed back, but being you know, because I considered
Speaker 3: myself to be a Republican at the time, because I
Speaker 3: didn't have words for what it meant to be a libertarian.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what it meant to be a libertarian
Speaker 3: at that time. But there was more charity because I
Speaker 3: was seen as kind of this nutty unicorn and then
Speaker 3: there was a character based on me on Murphy Brown
Speaker 3: McGovern and I was always somebody I know that super yeah,
Speaker 3: I was always super embarrassed by that. But now I
Speaker 3: look back and I'm like, you know, I wish I
Speaker 3: had embraced that more. I wish I had pushed back
Speaker 3: a little bit more. But I did talk about politics.
Speaker 3: I did go on CNBC because Fox News wasn't around
Speaker 3: yet when I was there, and I would go on
Speaker 3: shows and I would argue with people and it was.
Speaker 4: A fun time.
Speaker 3: But there was definitely more curiosity for the other side.
Speaker 3: And that doesn't happen now, Like if there were any
Speaker 3: kind of ATV reunion, they would never have me back
Speaker 3: because I represent you know, conservative media, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: guess what. The people that I was partying with and
Speaker 3: talking to and playing videos for my needs a lot
Speaker 3: of them are libertarians now.
Speaker 4: A lot of them are conservatives now.
Speaker 3: And they've got families, and they've got businesses, and they
Speaker 3: live through the pandemic and they are some of the
Speaker 3: most skeptical people on the planet. And that's who I
Speaker 3: get to talk to every single day. I didn't change.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to change.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know I can.
Speaker 3: I can speak the truth and I can and even
Speaker 3: if you don't believe what I believe, I can at
Speaker 3: least back it up with some evidence that's right.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think you're one of the better
Speaker 1: known people, you know from all of MTV. Really, I
Speaker 1: don't know that they wouldn't have you on would be
Speaker 1: crazy because I think that, you know, you'd be definitely
Speaker 1: you know, you have most famous libertarian plus top three
Speaker 1: MTV VJs. I think of all time that people would
Speaker 1: you know, be able to name. We're going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break and be right back on the Carol
Speaker 1: marco It Show. Is it weird living a public life
Speaker 1: being recognized.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I have been on TV for a
Speaker 3: majority of my life. So I'm fifty one now, I've
Speaker 3: been on TV since I was twenty and then when
Speaker 3: I was on MTV. It was such a different time
Speaker 3: because my old boss Andy has explained this so well.
Speaker 3: It was like opening up your laptop and there was
Speaker 3: no Facebook, there.
Speaker 4: Was no Safari. It just went right right to MTV.
Speaker 4: That's all there was.
Speaker 3: And you know, we had a cultural monopoly and didn't
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. And you know, every once in a
Speaker 3: while the music labels would talk about starting a channel
Speaker 3: and things like that would pop up, but it MTV
Speaker 3: still had the monopoly on everything until they stopped playing
Speaker 3: music and really went into reality TV, which everyone else
Speaker 3: was doing at that time, and so the audience share
Speaker 3: sort of dissipated pretty quickly. But at that time it
Speaker 3: was just us. We didn't have social media, thank god,
Speaker 3: because I don't know what I would have posted in
Speaker 3: some of my more impulsive moments. But it was there
Speaker 3: was such hyper focus, and I just learned how to
Speaker 3: not look people in the eye and I always wore hats.
Speaker 4: And so now media is.
Speaker 3: So diffuse, like there's so many media outlets and there's
Speaker 3: so many people. Everyone has a podcast, like everyone's got
Speaker 3: a show, so there are so many outlets that no
Speaker 3: few people are that famous anymore. And you know, of course,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize at the time the people who were
Speaker 3: making news and music would turn out to be icons.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know, you know, obviously when cro Cobaine
Speaker 3: was alive, that the conversations that we had would mean
Speaker 3: so much to me later in life, and that that
Speaker 3: would be the object of curiosity when I talk to
Speaker 3: people about my time at MTV later, and it's it's
Speaker 3: bittersweet because I look back and it was such an
Speaker 3: incredible moment and we all had so much fun and
Speaker 3: we're really appreciating and living in every moment. But I
Speaker 3: look back and I know so many people who have
Speaker 3: died since then, and you know, some of them, you know,
Speaker 3: like Kurk Cobain, like Chris Cornell, Uh, they're really tragic,
Speaker 3: Scott Weiland, right, you know. And there are people that
Speaker 3: they're just no longer here, like their story, their personal
Speaker 3: story ended, and so what gets created after that is myth.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's weird, But also like I've been through
Speaker 3: so much. I've been through so many up and downs
Speaker 3: personally and professionally that I was really able to when
Speaker 3: I left MTV kind of find myself and exists outside
Speaker 3: of a realm where I needed to be famous and
Speaker 3: needed the outside not attention but AGUALI yeah, and and
Speaker 3: the outside force of anything else. And I learned to
Speaker 3: create an identity that was mine and have never really
Speaker 3: left that. So it's like, if I weren't famous tomorrow,
Speaker 3: I would be fine with that, you know, if my
Speaker 3: broadcast career goes on for another thirty years, like, I'm
Speaker 3: good with that too.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've made it?
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Every job I had since MTV I've felt like was
Speaker 3: a bonus round. And I say that because I knew
Speaker 3: so many people and they called it the curse of MTV,
Speaker 3: so many people who were VJs who really never heard
Speaker 3: from again, right, And you know, because there wasn't a
Speaker 3: natural media outlet for so many people to go who
Speaker 3: had cycled through as VJs that you know, other than
Speaker 3: music radio people didn't really do much. And so that
Speaker 3: was that was a huge source of anxiety for me
Speaker 3: the whole time I was there, and I was always
Speaker 3: looming over me, like what am I going to do
Speaker 3: after this? And it wasn't until I left and started
Speaker 3: living my own life that I was like, oh, there's
Speaker 3: so much you can do anything else.
Speaker 4: On top of that has been a giant bonus.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because I have been at Fox twice
Speaker 3: as long as I was at MTV.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really amazing. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: I recently saw pictures of you and Cat Timp on
Speaker 1: a safari trip in Africa.
Speaker 2: One of the things that we'd get into.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, jealous obviously, but that's a
Speaker 1: side note. But something that I cover a lot on
Speaker 1: this show is making friends in adulthood, maintaining friendships when
Speaker 1: you have kids.
Speaker 2: How do you do it? How is the trip? Tell
Speaker 2: us everything?
Speaker 4: So the trip was great.
Speaker 3: Cat and I bonded when her mom died a year
Speaker 3: before my father passed away, and she was one of
Speaker 3: the first people who reached out to me, and she
Speaker 3: reached out to me with humor, which I really appreciated
Speaker 3: because you know, grief is it's such a dynamic thing
Speaker 3: that sometimes it's really heavy and it just feels like
Speaker 3: you're wearing a lead vest and you're walking through cement.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to concentrate. It's hard to do day
Speaker 3: to day tasks, and you know, other days you have
Speaker 3: this energy and you don't know where it comes from,
Speaker 3: and it kind of worries you. But you don't do
Speaker 3: very much is laugh, like you don't give your self
Speaker 3: professional laugh, and people don't.
Speaker 4: Know how to laugh with you.
Speaker 3: They don't want to trivialize your grieving process. But someone
Speaker 3: who was fresh to the process, who was able to
Speaker 3: laugh with me, we bonded very deeply over that and
Speaker 3: have been friends ever since. And you know we have,
Speaker 3: we've traveled together. She came to Greece with me with
Speaker 3: her husband last year for my fiftieth birthday. And so
Speaker 3: my swim coach is from South Africa and is putting
Speaker 3: together a safari business and so he needed like two
Speaker 3: clients as a maiden voyage to go through the entire process.
Speaker 3: And he asked if I had a friend I would
Speaker 3: like to go with, and so I called Kat and
Speaker 3: she was like, absolutely, Lion King.
Speaker 4: Is my favorite movie. I had been to Africa, so
Speaker 4: I know, like you have to jump in with both feet,
Speaker 4: and she did. And it was a magical trip from
Speaker 4: beginning to end.
Speaker 3: Where when you allow things to happen and you don't
Speaker 3: try to control them and you just take in your surroundings,
Speaker 3: that's when magical things really happen in your life, and
Speaker 3: from the moment we got there, we saw things that
Speaker 3: are so rare to see on safari. So the wild dogs,
Speaker 3: they're called painted wolves. There are so few of them
Speaker 3: left in Africa. It is the most endangered carnivorous species
Speaker 3: in Sub Saharan Africa, and their numbers are dwindling. They're
Speaker 3: phenomenal predators. They're absolutely beautiful. They look they do look
Speaker 3: like paintings. They look otherworldly, and they don't bark, they squeak.
Speaker 3: And so we saw this big pack with lots of
Speaker 3: pups and they're very efficient hunters.
Speaker 4: And then the next day there are only five white
Speaker 4: lions that live in the wild world, and we saw
Speaker 4: three events.
Speaker 3: And so then then the next day we saw a
Speaker 3: day old elephant with its umbilical cord still attached, and
Speaker 3: we saw a leopard, Like it's really difficult to see
Speaker 3: leopards in the wild. We saw a leopard that was
Speaker 3: three feet from us that had just killed an adult kudoo,
Speaker 3: which is like a giant antelope, and had eaten half
Speaker 3: the carcass, and its belly was the size of a
Speaker 3: medicine ball. And so this leopard was exhausted and it
Speaker 3: was protecting its kill, their vultures swirling overhead signaling to
Speaker 3: other hunters that there's fresh prey here. Yeah, a hyena
Speaker 3: had already stolen the stomach, and so the leopard is
Speaker 3: fighting off the hyenas, the vultures and the worry of
Speaker 3: a lion pride coming through and trying to steal the
Speaker 3: kill because a leopard can't fight a pride of lions.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. Was it like?
Speaker 4: It was it one thing after another.
Speaker 3: We laughed so hard, We had so much fun, and
Speaker 3: the places that we want, we're just they were magical
Speaker 3: beyond belief. Part of the magic is it's not Disneyland.
Speaker 3: There are no walls, there are no cast members.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There were two male lions that walk through the lawn
Speaker 3: at dinner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's no fence between you and the lions.
Speaker 4: There is nothing.
Speaker 3: And then we walk outside the same night and there
Speaker 3: were two male cape buffalo and a third coming up
Speaker 3: behind them. And male cape buffalo who have left the
Speaker 3: herd are some of the most dangerous animals in Africa
Speaker 3: because they give you absolutely no warning. They gore you
Speaker 3: with their giant horns and then they crush you with
Speaker 3: the top of their head and then they stomp on
Speaker 3: you until you're intro Yeah, it's but it's really interesting,
Speaker 3: Like you don't react with your fear the way you
Speaker 3: think you would. You react by being very calm and
Speaker 3: very still and hyper observant. And it's amazing how quickly
Speaker 3: you get back in touch with senses.
Speaker 4: That you don't use on a daily basis in active
Speaker 4: city life.
Speaker 1: Going.
Speaker 2: That's it I have.
Speaker 4: It's awesome. It's absolutely right.
Speaker 2: So and here with.
Speaker 1: Your best tip for my listeners on how they can
Speaker 1: improve their lives.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so glad you asked that.
Speaker 3: So I just did a podcast that Kennedy Saves the
Speaker 3: World podcast about cold showers.
Speaker 4: Cold showers lots.
Speaker 2: Of scientific benefits.
Speaker 4: Yep. And every shower like hot bath with it.
Speaker 3: Do a hot bath and then finish with the cold
Speaker 3: shower and just steal everything in. Get as much sleep
Speaker 3: as you possibly can. I'm a huge fan of meditation.
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as being good at meditation. Your
Speaker 3: mind will wander. You just have to come back to it.
Speaker 3: You have to constantly come back to a meditator process.
Speaker 3: But it is one of the most helpful things that
Speaker 3: I have found.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to meditate and take a cold shower tonight,
Speaker 1: and I will think of you, Kennedy.
Speaker 4: Thank you the best weep.
Speaker 1: I hope so well. Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: Loved having you. Please come back another time.
Speaker 3: You are just the You are amazing, Carol, and I
Speaker 3: love reading what you write. I love that you have
Speaker 3: a podcast now. I think iHeartRadio is a perfect home
Speaker 3: for you. Thank you, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kennedy, Thanks so much for joining us on
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