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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on and everybody to the Friday edition of The

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: to discuss with you today. I mean, first off, as

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Speaker 2: I'm sure some of you have seen, no doubt, the

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Speaker 2: trial in Georgia for Donald Trump is set to be

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Speaker 2: televised if it is in fact to happen, So that

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Speaker 2: is a pretty remarkable circumstance. I mean, you think that

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Speaker 2: Trump is the greatest political show on earth, that's for sure,

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Speaker 2: But the Trump Revolution, so to speak, will be televised.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're telling us right now, which I think

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Speaker 2: is a pretty astonishing place for things to be. We've

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Speaker 2: also got Clay more on the situation of the various

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Speaker 2: primary candidates right now, including mister the veik Ramaswami and others.

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Speaker 2: What they're up to, what they're doing. Biden here laughs

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Speaker 2: at a question over whether he will hand over his

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Speaker 2: bank records and then moves on dodging a probe into hunters'

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Speaker 2: business deals. How long do you think the dodge is

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Speaker 2: going to work here for good old Joe Biden? Before

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Speaker 2: maybe the political pressure creates some real problems for them,

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Speaker 2: or is there even a level clay that it could reach?

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Speaker 2: Is it just going to keep going on as is?

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Speaker 3: I think it's as long as the Democrats decide that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is their best vessel.

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Speaker 2: To win in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I think is the most fascinating

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Speaker 3: about the dynamics surrounding Biden is and I understand people

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily buy this. Everybody doesn't, although I think increasingly

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Speaker 3: more and more people do. Biden is such a weak

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Speaker 3: candidate that I think many Republican primary voters have not

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Speaker 3: focused as much on electability because Biden is so weak.

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Speaker 3: They feel like anybody's going to be Biden. Now there's

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Speaker 3: different candidates out there. The Trump people say Trump would

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Speaker 3: be Biden the worst. That DeSantis people are saying, this

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Speaker 3: is the number one reason why we should be picked

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Speaker 3: because we will definitely beat Biden, whereas other candidates believe

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Speaker 3: that Trump might lose. I think there's fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: our audience that believes Trump is the strongest candidate, fifty

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Speaker 3: percent that believe the other. But I think maybe what

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Speaker 3: all of those candidates are united in is they think

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Speaker 3: they'll beat Biden, and I wonder how much Democrats now

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Speaker 3: are coming to grips with the fact that Biden is

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Speaker 3: a profoundly weak candidate, the weakest incumbent president that they

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Speaker 3: have had, certainly since Jimmy Carter, and Buck maybe even

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Speaker 3: weaker than Jimmy Carter, because at least for Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 3: there was no questions about his cognition, about his mental

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Speaker 3: and physical fitness and ability to be president. My biggest

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Speaker 3: concern about all of the Trump legal shenanigans is not

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Speaker 3: necessarily the legality of them or the battle, although that

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Speaker 3: is significant. It's that every moment we spend talking about

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Speaker 3: the challenges of proving conspiracy in Georgia or in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 3: or document handling in South Florida is time we don't

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Speaker 3: spend discussing the complete and utter failure of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: tenure as president of the United States. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's ultimately what the Biden team is rooting for, is

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Speaker 3: that they want Trump, because the story then becomes Trump

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Speaker 3: not Biden, when the reality is this should one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent this election that is coming up next year, should

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent be the referendum on the current sitting

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Speaker 3: president of the United States. But there's this question lingering

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Speaker 3: out there. Can Trump let anything not be about Trump?

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of the way that I would

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Speaker 3: assess things as we begin. I don't know if you're

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Speaker 3: in this camp. I always think of September first as

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Speaker 3: debate out there. People say, oh, it's September twenty first.

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Speaker 3: Other people say, well, it's the day after Labor Day

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Speaker 3: that upcoming Tuesday. But now I think we enter into

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Speaker 3: what is quite clearly the fall campaign season. And now

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Speaker 3: things begin in earnest, everybody's back from vacation and we

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Speaker 3: find out, Okay, what's going to be the story in Iowa?

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Speaker 3: How much of a battleground is Iowa truly going to be?

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Speaker 3: Because we're about four months, four and a half months

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Speaker 2: Kind of throw out there as well. You know, this

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Speaker 2: could happen to the economy some incident. We all know

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Speaker 2: that there's a possibility of a recession at some point

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Speaker 2: still in the near future. There's always a possibility of

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Speaker 2: Maybe something comes out of nowhere and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: things feel very different. There's a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a moment here, Clay. You're seeing for

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Speaker 2: people like Rick Santelly, most famous, I think still isn't

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Speaker 2: it amazing? He's the guy people think of the Tea

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Speaker 2: Party and the tri corner kats and people playing a

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Speaker 2: fife and walking around in the gatherings and all that

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Speaker 2: back in twenty ten and as a remarkable political movement

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Speaker 2: that got a lot of Republics elected, especially the Congress.

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Speaker 2: To this day, some of the most prominent Republicans are

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Speaker 2: Rick Santelli called for the Tea Party. That's why I

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Speaker 2: think it was on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

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Speaker 2: And here he is saying you know, things are getting

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Speaker 4: The unemployment rate jumped to three point eight percent.

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Speaker 2: Three point eight percent.

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Speaker 4: In order to find a higher well, you can go

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Speaker 4: to February twenty two. We're at three point eight January

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Speaker 2: So look that alone. That's just one thing, right, That's

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Speaker 2: one data point you could add in. But there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff right now out there. You look at

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Speaker 2: the amount of debt that people have accumulated, the credit

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Speaker 2: card debt that's out there. You look at the stock

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Speaker 2: market that has really I think six stocks in videos

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Speaker 2: focused on if you're an investor, But there are others

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Speaker 2: that have been effectively carrying the market on their back,

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Speaker 2: which is a weird thing because most other stocks in

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Speaker 2: the S and P five hundred are pretty flat. You

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Speaker 2: just have a number of mega stocks that are and

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Speaker 2: have some AI connection. And yeah, that's I think clay

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Speaker 2: where you could see something get really dodgy for the economy,

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Speaker 2: and if that happens. This is a long way of saying,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden in a bad economy, Democrats are at the

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Speaker 2: break the glass phase, right then all bets are off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and effectively, I think you have to look whether

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Speaker 3: I know it's up a little bit, but certainly if

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Speaker 3: you factor in that we had ten percent inflation, nobody

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Speaker 3: really grown very much during the Biden era. And then

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Speaker 3: you filter it all the way down from the very rich,

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Speaker 3: Does anybody middle class right now? It's not only that

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Speaker 3: the unemployment rates starting to tick up, Buck, It's that

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Speaker 3: your real purchase power is down. That is the value

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you, Buck, the amount of times I

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Speaker 3: understand that you're not supposed to eat fast foods, not

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Speaker 3: less than fifty bucks. Now, fifty bucks used to be Oh,

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Speaker 3: let's go out to Chili's, Let's go out to Applebee's,

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Speaker 2: You can't do that anywhere near that Now.

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Speaker 3: You can't go through the Chick fil a drive through

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Speaker 3: it's crazy how expensive all this has gotten. So you

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Speaker 3: Do you know what else is happening. The price of

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Speaker 3: I'm in California. We pay over six dollars a gallon,

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Speaker 3: I get it, but it got over five dollars everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And while you're standing there watching that number continue to

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Speaker 3: they don't dial prices back. So when it's only going

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Speaker 3: it up. Your economic situation is far worse under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: And yet Biden just thinks that he can keep cruising

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Speaker 2: if we were to fall into something that everybody would

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Speaker 2: have to admit is a recession. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: a good chance of pro session. No one's saying that now. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, nobody was saying there's a great chance of

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Speaker 2: and yet things change very dramatically. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on here. The assumption that

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Speaker 2: is generally a fallacy in politics and in economics. And

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Speaker 2: the fact that Biden just thinks he can laugh off

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Speaker 2: requests for his banking records this is this is the

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Speaker 2: uh I mentioned this play clip four here he is

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Speaker 2: it's all funny to.

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Speaker 5: Him, Congress, let's talk about.

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Speaker 2: He's just just trying to evade Clay. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how long that will last for him as a tactic

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Speaker 2: as a strategy, I think.

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Speaker 3: They get last buck only as long as Democrats, when

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Speaker 3: keep us in the White House for twenty twenty four because,

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Speaker 3: as you've said, and we've said on the show for

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Speaker 3: some time, he's a trojan horse candidate. And as soon

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Speaker 3: as they decide, boy, this Biden trojan horse is not working,

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Speaker 3: I was phenomenal at Okay, I bet a lot of

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Speaker 2: Listen all right, Keith, As I.

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Speaker 3: Not fuck I mean this is so let me say

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Speaker 2: Let's actually have it out. So first off, I'm a

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Speaker 2: for physical attraction. And that is insane, Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's such a foundational issue

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Speaker 3: to connect with. For instance, and I wrote about this

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Speaker 3: a lot in American Playbook, But I really think if

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Speaker 3: you are out there and you're frustrated because you feel

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Speaker 3: like you don't have a real connection. Maybe you're a

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Speaker 3: grandparent and you know it's Labor Day weekend, you're going

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Speaker 3: to have a cookout and you're going to be around

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Speaker 3: your grandkids and you're worried about their indoctrination. Maybe they're

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Speaker 3: off to college, maybe they're in high school. Maybe you're

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Speaker 3: going to be like I am today at a high

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Speaker 3: school football game and you're just going to be around

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Speaker 3: younger people. I think this is an entry point for sanity.

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Speaker 3: I really do a topic that you can broach if

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Speaker 3: your kids or grandkids are sports fans but they are

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Speaker 3: left wing. I think this is the kind of issue

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Speaker 3: that you bring up that deep down to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 3: they can't even defend it. There's not some brilliant debater

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Speaker 3: who is out there that will dazzle your mind by

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Speaker 3: arguing this issue. It's very basic. It's a foundational belief

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Speaker 3: system that is untrue. It's a lie that you have

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Speaker 3: to believe in in order to be a leftist, and

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Speaker 3: if you can't expose it for the lie that it is,

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Speaker 3: it can be a red pill moment, that moment, Buck,

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Speaker 3: where many people start to question what they have previously

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Speaker 3: accepted as truth. It is the gateway, as it were,

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Speaker 3: to sanity and starting to question a lot of the

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Speaker 3: idiot logical lies that are the foundation now of the

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Speaker 3: left in this country.

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Speaker 2: Well, if the think of it this way, if the

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Speaker 2: left can mandate, and let's speak clear, we say the

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Speaker 2: left Democrat Party, same thing, If the Democrat Party can

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Speaker 2: mandate as a function of standing in the movement and

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Speaker 2: everything else, the most obvious lie. Yes. That then brings

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Speaker 2: into question what else are they going to lie to

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Speaker 2: you about?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: What else do they demand you bend the need to

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Speaker 2: in the name of an unreality? And I think that's

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Speaker 2: why this is so key for them. People say, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe they'll just back off this issue. To back off

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Speaker 2: the issue is to say that they were lying to

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Speaker 2: people as a party about the most fundamental and obvious

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Speaker 2: thing possible, which is that men have penises and women

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Speaker 2: have vaginas and they are different, and that is a

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Speaker 3: Is the cover charge that the Democrat Party demands for

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and buck Sexton on the frontlines of True.

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 3: out with us on the Friday. As we roll into

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Speaker 3: Labor Day weekend. We are joined now by a man

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Speaker 3: that I believe has been right about more of the

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Speaker 3: data on COVID than almost anyone in the entire country.

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Speaker 3: We have been having him on for years on this program.

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Speaker 3: Now he is Alex Berenson. All right, Alex, appreciate you

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Speaker 3: coming on with us. They are now trying to roll

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Speaker 3: out a new COVID show. I was reading and I

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Speaker 3: bet you saw it too, Doctor Marty McCarey, who's done

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Speaker 3: fantastic work on so many of these COVID related issues.

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Speaker 2: Johns Hopkins, physician.

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Speaker 3: He said only twenty percent of people got the most

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Speaker 3: recent COVID shot, despite the fact that they tried to

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Speaker 3: force everybody to get it. Try to encourage everybody to

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Speaker 3: get it. What's the latest on the newest COVID shot?

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Speaker 3: And have you seen those numbers that even though all

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Speaker 3: the blue checks out there, the old school blue checks

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Speaker 3: have been arguing Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: If you don't get this, it's going to be a disaster.

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Speaker 3: The fact that eighty percent of Americans said, yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: kind of done getting COVID shots is a pretty incredible

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Speaker 3: number given where we were when the first version of

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Speaker 3: this shot came out.

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Speaker 7: Yes, look right now, no one is getting a shot.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it will be interesting this fall to see

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Speaker 8: when the new shots come out, you know, if if

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Speaker 8: we even approach what we what we got to last year,

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Speaker 8: which as you say, was fewer than twenty percent of

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Speaker 8: people and fewer than half of people over sixty five,

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Speaker 8: who are.

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Speaker 7: Really the only people who might have any even theoretical

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Speaker 7: benefit from the shots at this point. Uh. And frankly,

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Speaker 7: I think I think basically that, I mean, you would

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Speaker 7: be a fool, and you know, I'll get in trouble

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Speaker 7: for saying It's that. I'm gonna say it openly because

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Speaker 7: I think it's correct. I think even people at very

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Speaker 7: high risks from COVID, there's very very little evidence at

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Speaker 7: this point that they'll benefit from future boosters. You know,

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Speaker 7: the the the idea that the shots can reduce infection

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Speaker 7: just does not seem to be the case anymore. And

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Speaker 7: so you know, there's this question about whether or not

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Speaker 7: they would you know, we're sure of severe infection or

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Speaker 7: if you're at high risk. But it isn't clear that

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Speaker 7: more boosters actually help with that kind of immunity either.

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Speaker 7: We don't really have that evidence. We and by the way,

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Speaker 7: one last, you know, one last on this particular point

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Speaker 7: they're rolling out boosters. They claim the boosters you know,

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Speaker 7: are sort of have been modified so they will work

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Speaker 7: better against the current strain of COVID. There's not really

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Speaker 7: good evidence in that either. So we are really truly

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Speaker 7: in the public relations phase of this, and they're selling

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Speaker 7: a product that nobody wants, and I just don't know

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Speaker 7: how many people get it. I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 7: we see by the end of the year or the

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Speaker 7: end of the COVID season, you know, let's say into

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Speaker 7: early twenty twenty four, that fewer than ten million Americans

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Speaker 7: have gotten this, I mean that, which would just be

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Speaker 7: a stunning rejection.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, and maybe we get to this in a

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Speaker 3: sect I mean the danger with that is now the

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Speaker 3: Biden administration has been pushing these COVID shots, which are

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Speaker 3: to a large extent worthless for most people and they've

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Speaker 3: been doing it, which is actually starting to increase the

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Speaker 3: hes intncy of other vaccines, which maybe we can get

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Speaker 3: to in a moment.

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Speaker 2: But let's go to kids.

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Speaker 3: I believe the study is out of Australia. I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of people out there, kids, grandkids. It's one

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Speaker 3: thing to make a decision for yourself. For instance, my

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Speaker 3: parents over seventy five, they were saying they got the

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Speaker 3: two COVID shots, they got a booster. They say they're

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Speaker 3: done now they're over seventy five. I think there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who would make similar decisions as

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Speaker 3: them with their own health. But the idea of getting

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Speaker 3: kids COVID shots has been incredibly controversial for a long time,

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Speaker 3: and now we already knew that the benefit was minimal,

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Speaker 3: if there was any at all. And I think, Alex,

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Speaker 3: you're like me. You are not, you know, an anti vaxxer.

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Speaker 3: But you haven't I think making the same decision as

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Speaker 3: I have. Your young kids have not gotten the COVID shot.

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Speaker 3: I'm very glad that I did not get them the

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Speaker 3: COVID shot. I think you, as a parent, have made

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Speaker 3: the same choice. What is the data now showing for

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Speaker 3: people out there that may have gotten their kids the

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Speaker 3: COVID shot.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's worrisome because this paper came out

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Speaker 7: last week. It's a small paper, let's be clear about that.

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Speaker 7: And it doesn't have what, you know, what what what

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Speaker 7: scientists or physicians would call clinical outcomes. In other words,

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Speaker 7: they didn't show that getting the shot, you know, led

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Speaker 7: to more infections or more severe infections for for kids.

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Speaker 7: It was too small a study for that. But what

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Speaker 7: it showed was here, here's here's the idea. The idea is,

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Speaker 7: sometimes when you're immunized against against huh An illness, it

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Speaker 7: may The idea is, in some specific cases, it may

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Speaker 7: actually lead to broader immunity against other illnesses. It just

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Speaker 7: sort of it will. It will ramp up your immune

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Speaker 7: system in a positive way if you're a kid, so

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Speaker 7: that so that you know, you get immunized against one thing,

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Speaker 7: but it actually helps you against other things. And that's

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Speaker 7: what these scientists were clearly hoping to demonstrate in this study.

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Speaker 7: So they took blood from kids age five to eleven

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Speaker 7: and who had gotten the m R and a COVID

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Speaker 7: justifies or COVID shots, and they looked and they said, hey,

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Speaker 7: does this show a stronger immune response against other bacterian viruses,

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Speaker 7: not just not just stars COVID too, not just COVID,

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Speaker 7: and to their surprise, they found the opposite. They found

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Speaker 7: that the immune response seemed to be dampened in kids

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Speaker 7: who had gotten the COVID shots. Now we don't know

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Speaker 7: why that is, and we don't know if that means

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Speaker 7: that kids are actually more vulnerable to other infections in

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Speaker 7: the long term, but they looked both a month and

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Speaker 7: six months out and they found that this persisted when

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Speaker 7: they exposed the blood of these kids to other viruses.

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Speaker 7: So that all by itself would make me say, I

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Speaker 7: am never getting my kids vaccinated with this mRNA product

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Speaker 7: against COVID, and certainly if they've been vaccinated they I

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Speaker 7: would never have them boosted because we don't know what

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Speaker 7: that means. But it is clearly not the result they

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Speaker 7: were hoping to find. And one of the problems, one

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Speaker 7: of the many many problems with where we are right

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Speaker 7: now in this is these papers come out and they

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Speaker 7: have troubling findings. They're not again, they're not necessarily proving

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Speaker 7: that the vaccine is going to, you know, make kids

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Speaker 7: more vulnerable, but it shows something that needs to be

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Speaker 7: followed up on, and instead of following up, the scientists,

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Speaker 7: you know, this was an Australian paper, scientists in the

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Speaker 7: US just ignore and do not do more research. So

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Speaker 7: you sort of have these like these troubling findings that

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Speaker 7: we don't follow up on, and the picture they paint

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Speaker 7: overall is these vaccines are useless for kids and possibly problematic.

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Speaker 7: And we didn't you know, one word we haven't even

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Speaker 7: mentioned today, clay is is is myochroditis right, So we

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Speaker 7: know that's a side effect, that's a side effect that

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Speaker 7: certainly was not expected, that didn't come up in the

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Speaker 7: big clinical trials, and yet is clearly a real side effect,

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Speaker 7: especially for young adults and for teenagers, and especially for

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Speaker 7: teenage boys. And again, you know, most of the research

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Speaker 7: that's been done on it hasn't come out of the

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Speaker 7: United States. And I find that really problematic. What is it?

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Speaker 3: What does this say for you? As we look forward

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Speaker 3: into what is now? I guess I can't even keep track.

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Speaker 3: This is the third winter, right? Or is it the

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Speaker 3: fourth winter? I can't even keep track of COVID right

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one twenty this is the fourth winter?

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Speaker 2: I guess of COVID, right the fourth winter, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourth winter of COVID. Is there anything alarming out

658
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Speaker 3: there or to you now? Is COVID now sort of

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Speaker 3: intermingled with all the other typical cold and flu viruses

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Speaker 3: that you and me and everybody out there listening to

661
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Speaker 3: us has spent a lifetime dealing with during the fall

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Speaker 3: and winter seasons.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean i'd say the latter. I'd say, you know,

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Speaker 7: and I suppose it is still theoretically possible that some

665
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Speaker 7: terrible variant will come out and you know, and lead

666
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Speaker 7: need you know, to change that. But no, at this point,

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Speaker 7: it looked like COVID. You know, COVID adapted to us

668
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Speaker 7: exactly as people predicted it would very early on, which

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Speaker 7: is it became very transmissible and it became less dangerous.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I wouldn't just say average, well, I'd

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Speaker 7: say almost anybody who isn't a death door. There's very

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Speaker 7: little evidence that COVID is dangerous to them in a

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Speaker 7: significant way. And you know, they're saying fifteen thousand hospitalizations

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Speaker 7: last week. I don't think we know how many of

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Speaker 7: those were with COVID or from COVID. And as people

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Speaker 7: pointed out, like we don't sample for flu during summer.

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Speaker 7: We don't really try to count these things the way

678
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Speaker 7: we started counting COVID and continue to count COVID. So

679
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 7: this idea that COVID is unique, we're counting it in

680
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Speaker 7: a unique way, everything from the cases to hospitalizations to

681
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Speaker 7: death and so the numbers aren't really comparable. And right now,

682
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Speaker 7: and this is a good thing, there doesn't seem to

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Speaker 7: be any access more in the United States or in Europe.

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Speaker 7: There was last winter, and I do worry that that

685
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Speaker 7: had something to do with the booster campaign last winter,

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Speaker 7: but fortunately mortality has returned to normal. And I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think I think the biggest threat right now is that,

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Speaker 7: you know, they're going to try to maybe close schools again,

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Speaker 7: They're going to try to get people to mask again.

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Speaker 7: They're going to scare people in unnecessary ways, and I

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Speaker 7: do worry. I mean, we'll see if significant number of

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Speaker 7: people take the booster and there's another rhyme and excess

693
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Speaker 7: mortality this winter. I think that's going to be very

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Speaker 7: hard to explain. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope,

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Speaker 7: first a lot of people don't take it, and I

696
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Speaker 7: certainly hope we don't see a rise in excess mortality,

697
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Speaker 7: but that would be my concern actually that the MR

698
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Speaker 7: and A is another round will have negative effects.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Alex Bearnson.

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Speaker 3: Last question for you, Alex, and and by the way,

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Speaker 3: give out your sub stack so people can go read

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Speaker 3: this for yourself, as I would encourage everybody who is

703
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Speaker 3: listening to us right now who wants more information. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned that idea of schools potentially shutting down uh and

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Speaker 3: or mask mandates coming back. Can you mention? Can you

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Speaker 3: discuss that? But also you got three kids, I've got

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Speaker 3: three kids. What about overall vaccine hesitancy that seems to

708
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Speaker 3: be growing now because of so many parents and I

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Speaker 3: think grandparents and and and guardians who are still burned

710
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Speaker 3: by the lies that they were told about the COVID

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Speaker 3: shot and now are wondering whether they should get other shots.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the lingering impacts here.

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Speaker 7: I think you're right. I mean one of the ironies

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Speaker 7: here is that you know that sort of the vaccine

715
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Speaker 7: the pro vaccine team, you know, the public health team,

716
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Speaker 7: and like you, my kids are all vaccinated with the

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Speaker 7: standard vaccines on the standard schedule. I'm not you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm not an anti vacciner, right, but this idea that

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Speaker 7: there was widespread vaccine has been see outside ironically of

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Speaker 7: a few sort of you know, very liberal jurisdictions in

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Speaker 7: the US before twenty twenty, is not true. Vaccine rates

722
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Speaker 7: were very high and not showing much sign of going down. Now,

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Speaker 7: as you say, people have you know, who got the

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Speaker 7: COVID vaccine and had bad side effects themselves, or who

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Speaker 7: saw it didn't really protect them against COVID, or whose

726
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Speaker 7: kids got it, and you know, they might have heard

727
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Speaker 7: of a child who had myocriditis following it, or they

728
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Speaker 7: might have they might you know, their kids had a

729
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Speaker 7: negative side effect. They aren't going to wonder about other vaccines.

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Speaker 7: And one of the things that I emphasize over and

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Speaker 7: over again is that these marnies are not like other vaccines.

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Speaker 7: They're really different. But but the public health community lied

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Speaker 7: about that for three years. They basically they tried to

734
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Speaker 7: say this is just another vaccine. You should just go

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Speaker 7: get it because we're telling you to. And it is

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Speaker 7: no surprise that there's increasing questions in a lot of parents'

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Speaker 7: minds about other vaccines. I don't think we've seen a

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Speaker 7: huge drop off, we've seen some drop off in standard

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Speaker 7: vaccination rates and that is entirely the fault of the

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Speaker 7: public health community for not telling the truth about this.

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Speaker 2: Alex appreciate you being with us as always.

742
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Speaker 7: It's a pleasure and let me get out it's the

743
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Speaker 7: subject is unreported truths and you can also follow me

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Speaker 7: on Twitter and it's always a pleasure to talk to

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Speaker 7: you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Unreported truth is an excellent substack, highly

747
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748
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752
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Speaker 2: Make it part of your day. Third hour of Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck and last hour before we get to send

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Speaker 2: you off into your long weekend, your labor day week,

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Speaker 2: and hope you got some fun plans. We got very

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Speaker 2: exciting plans.

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Speaker 7: Play.

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Speaker 2: I'd be writing a book. You just got to go

778
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Speaker 2: around on your book for I'm writing a book. So

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Speaker 2: that's what you're doing all Labor Day weekend. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: pretty much. You don't have a.

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Speaker 3: Single fun thing plan for the entire long weekend.

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Speaker 2: Reading the books for research to write the book is

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Speaker 2: somewhat enjoyable fun plan. She's gonna, yeah, she's gonna go

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Speaker 2: out with the girls and get that. She played golf

785
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: last night. She's got a great time. I'm going to

786
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Speaker 2: go into full Hobbit in his little dead mode and

787
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: be writing until my little fingers get numb. And that

788
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: is the plan. But it's coming, it's coming along, it's

789
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Speaker 2: coming along. And yeah, I hope people have more fun

790
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Speaker 2: things planned than that. I'm sure I'll eat some good

791
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: food at some point, do some other some other good things.

792
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: I can't believe the summer is out of close now.

793
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: You would think that. I don't know. It went by

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Speaker 2: very very quickly. So I'm happy that people have a

795
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: day off to contemplate. It's interesting. We could think of

796
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Speaker 2: the history of labor day another time, perhaps in the

797
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Speaker 2: meantime or clay. Actually, why don't you tell everybody we've

798
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Speaker 2: got going on. It's third hour before holiday weekend. We're

799
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Speaker 2: not there's not any big break. All the journals, everybody

800
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: they've they're already on the way to the vineyard or whatever. Yeah,

801
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: they're they're they're heading to the Jersey shore right now.

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00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: They don't care.

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Speaker 3: It's a good time to break news if you have

804
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: any negative news out there that you just want to

805
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Speaker 3: dump in. There's tons of college football games going on.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's bailing. I've been on the road for the last

807
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Speaker 3: month so with the book and everything else, and so

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Speaker 3: I'm just excited to be home. I'm gonna go to

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Speaker 3: the Virginia Tennessee game in Nashville tomorrow. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: to a high school football game tonight. Basically the next

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Speaker 3: decade of my life, I'm gonna be going to high

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Speaker 3: school football games now because my boys are getting to

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Speaker 3: those ages where they're playing high school football and everything else.

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Speaker 2: You know, I played a lot of different sports. You

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Speaker 2: and I actually played similar sports, Gromen. You played soccer.

816
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Speaker 2: I played soccer. Were you a tennis guy? I was

817
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: really into tennis, never on a team. I played baseball.

818
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Speaker 2: I played basketball. I played, but by high school I

819
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: was a soccer player. I played basketball too, until my

820
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Speaker 2: dream of being able to dunk easily one day. That

821
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Speaker 2: came crashing down about the eighth grade, when I realized

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Speaker 2: that despite all the calf raises I could do. You know,

823
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Speaker 2: all the exercises for the gas.

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Speaker 3: String shoes, the Jimmy remember Jimmy on Seinfeld who had

825
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Speaker 3: like the jumping shoes. Remember remember those shoes that they had.

826
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Speaker 3: There were pumps that you used to see. The brown

827
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Speaker 3: like won the slam dunk contest with the Reebok pumps.

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Speaker 2: That's right. The slam dunk contest was a cultural phenomenon

829
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Speaker 2: for a while. I remember this back in the day

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Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan's Spud Webb. I remember him. He was

831
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Speaker 2: I think five eight, and he won it one year,

832
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Speaker 2: that's right. So I remember, and I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: taller than five eight, I'm in the eighth grade or

834
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Speaker 2: ninth grade, Like maybe I can dunk. It turned out no, no,

835
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Speaker 2: I was. I had to be pleased with just just

836
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Speaker 2: hitting the bottom of the net with my hand. That

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Speaker 2: was as close as I got, which no one's impressed.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of men do you think can dunk a basketball?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, Well, depends on.

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Speaker 3: What a I mean, like peak age right like twenty

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Speaker 3: three or twenty four, right like when when you are

843
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Speaker 3: before you have gone off the deep end of not

844
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Speaker 3: being super athletic. Like if you can't dunk when you're

845
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Speaker 3: twenty three or twenty four, you probably are never going

846
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Speaker 3: to be able to dunk a basketball.

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Speaker 2: So whatever like peak athletic age you want to point.

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Speaker 2: We looked up earlier in the week and I think

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Speaker 2: it's three percent of men are six foot two or above. Yes,

850
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Speaker 2: so a six foot three or six foot four guy,

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Speaker 2: I think is in pretty good you know, at the

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Speaker 2: pretty decent likelihood that they would be able to but

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Speaker 2: not all of them would be able to. Very few

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Speaker 2: people below that height, I would argue, are going to

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Speaker 2: be able to dunk easily. So I would think it's

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Speaker 2: probably one percent. I think one p Zach number that

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Speaker 2: I was going to go with. One percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: or you know men in general probably around the world

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Speaker 2: can dunk a basketball. Yeah, but it's maybe.

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Speaker 3: The rarest athletic trait that everybody would aspire to and

861
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 3: almost no one can do. Right, Like if you play golf,

862
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Speaker 3: you could hit a hole in one. Even if you're

863
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Speaker 3: a really bad golfer, you can go out and hit

864
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Speaker 3: a bunch of three pointers. I think dunking of basketball

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Speaker 3: is the rarest athletic trait that everybody would love to

866
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: be able to do, and almost no one can.

867
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: To this day. I have never I have never dunked,

868
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: although if you didn't, I think there's a video of

869
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: Tom Segura, who's a very, very talented comedian. He was

870
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: on Joe Rogan recently and he he he's made jokes

871
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: about this too. But I somehow in my Twitter feed,

872
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: I think it was I saw this video he maybe

873
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: a year ago, on a bet, tried to dunk and

874
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: managed to like snap his pateller tendon and also break

875
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: his arm at the same time. I mean it was real.

876
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: He really hurt himself. So this is the way of

877
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: saying for all of us, all of us weekend warriors

878
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: out there, if you're gonna be playing golf, I don't

879
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: think we have to worry too much about you. But

880
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be playing a little pick up basketball,

881
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: if you haven't jumped, and you haven't stretched your hammis,

882
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: your hamstrings for you know, a year or two, go

883
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: slow out there.

884
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart, did you see, speaking of comedians, did you

885
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: see he put himself in a wheelchair trying to win

886
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: a race against a former NFL player like a forty

887
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: yard dash? And I was gonna say, I'm dunked, but

888
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 3: it's been off a trampoline. Back in the day, sometimes

889
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: you would put a trance probably very dangerous, but you

890
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: would put a trampoline underneath a you know, like the

891
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: big trampolines directly underneath a basketball hoop, and you could

892
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: then try to dunk on each other those old school

893
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: Now they have the nets that surround the trampolines. You

894
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: lived in New York, did you ever get on one

895
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: of those like trampolines back in the day, like like

896
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: in the eighties, in the early nineties, it was a

897
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: big deal to have a trampoline in your backyard.

898
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

899
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 7: Oh?

900
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I knew people, and I knew people who

901
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: definitely lost a front teeth, a front tooth or two

902
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: from getting a little too mean.

903
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: You would just get bounced off the trampoline all the time.

904
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: People would fall through the springs. Now they have they

905
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: put the netting around it, but they used to put

906
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: them underneath basketball rims, and so you could that's how

907
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: you would dunk. And so that's the only experience that

908
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: I've ever gotten to have hanging on a basketball.

909
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: And I was gonna ask you though. This was long

910
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: after saying I've never played a down of football. That's

911
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: the one sport that I've really never I tried even

912
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: to throw around to la cross ball a little bit

913
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: back in the day. I'm from the Northeast, very common,

914
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: but I was not good. But I've never tried at football.

915
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: Do your sons or is there just one son so

916
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: far plays football? Is that right?

917
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: Well, I've got one in one in flag football, so

918
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: I think that kind of counts.

919
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 2: But it's, you know, young kids.

920
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 3: We didn't allow him to play until sixth grade tackle football.

921
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: But does every kid? Does every sixth grader? I'm just

922
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: I asked this honestly. Do they all start out wanting

923
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: to be the quarterback and then over time they're like, oh,

924
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: I'll be a tight end or a wide receiver, you

925
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I feel like more so than

926
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: any other sport, unless maybe I guess you're a pitcher.

927
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: That's a very specific thing. But you know, if you

928
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: if you get into it and you want to be

929
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: a quarterback, that's like a very specific thing. And if

930
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: you can't be the quarterback on the team, do you

931
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: want to be like a the end or whatever?

932
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: So I think one size dictates very often where you

933
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: get placed early on. So my twelve year old is

934
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: a wide receiver and a cornerback in his seventh grade football.

935
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: My eight year old is and it's flag football, so

936
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: everybody goes out and everybody can catch, but more of

937
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: a wide receiver too, and they, I think, at least

938
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: in their experience, they want to play wide receiver more

939
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: than they want to play any other position. Maybe running

940
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: back a little bit as well. But it is uh,

941
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: I'll tell you Buck, Like I don't know, your high

942
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: school didn't have a high school football team right in

943
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: New York, which is not uncommon.

944
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh, my high school did not even have a football team. Yeah,

945
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: that's not uncommon in New York City at all. A

946
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: lot of schools don't have a football team. My high

947
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: school did not either. It was an academic high school,

948
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: which is very rare in the South. Like we were

949
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: the only public high school I think in the whole

950
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: city of Nashville didn't have team. So I didn't spend

951
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: a lot of time going to high school football games.

952
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: And now my boys are getting into that age. It's

953
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: really pretty incredible in the South. High school football on

954
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: a Friday Night is a monster deal, and I know

955
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: all over the country it's a big deal. I just

956
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: never experienced it. Well. I love that show. I liked

957
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: the movie, although the movie was a little grim to

958
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: be honest, Theilights Friday Lights it was a little there

959
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: was like nothing was allowed to be funny. There was

960
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: no levity in the whole movie. But it was well executed.

961
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a Peter Berg movie, who also did

962
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: the Lone Survivor movie and did I believe he did

963
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: The Kingdom as well, which has got Jamie Fox in it.

964
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: But for the show Friday Night Lights, it didn't get

965
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: the big audiences that they had hoped on NBC I

966
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: think at the time. But I was part of that

967
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: crew of people that loved that show. I thought that

968
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: show was phenomenal.

969
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you would sign on to this.

970
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: I'm curious how many people in our audience would. I

971
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: think Friday Night Lights is the best broadcast drama broadcast

972
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: That means everybody gets it for free. It's on ABC, NBCCBS, Fox,

973
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 3: I'm taking out like the HBO Showtimes streaming all of that.

974
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: I think Friday Night Lights is the best broadcast drama

975
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: in the history of television. I don't think there has

976
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: ever been a it's a big swing, But I think

977
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: about it. You guys out there listening can think about

978
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: it too. Name me a better show that we could

979
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 3: all watch for free on television than Friday Night Lights.

980
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: I think it's the best broadcast television show of all time.

981
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: And the challenge for it buck was and I eventually

982
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: got my wife watching it. I don't know if Carrie's

983
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: watched it. A lot of women who are not sports

984
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: fans didn't want to watch it because they were like, oh,

985
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: it's just a football show, and a lot of men

986
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: didn't want to watch it initially because it was a drama. Really,

987
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: it's the story of a marriage, right, Coach Taylor and

988
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: Tammy his wife, the Connie Britten characters who are both phenomenal,

989
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: the Mile chandl Or is that the guy's name. R Yeah,

990
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: they are both incredible. It's really just the story of

991
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: a marriage. If you have not watched it, and you

992
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: are listening to us right now and you want something

993
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 3: wholesome that your entire family could sit down and watch,

994
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: I think it's the best broadcast drama in the history

995
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: of free television.

996
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't think anything's ever been better. What is the

997
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: show for this Labor Day weekend? Okay, let's do this,

998
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: Claiy before we go here. A show and a book

999
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: that you would be your top as people are going

1000
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: into their holiday weekend right now from your end. A

1001
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: show that you think people and like obviously not you know,

1002
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: the most obvious thing, or like a breaking bad We

1003
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 2: all know breaking bad. Some people think the best show

1004
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 2: of all time. But a show that you've seen relatively

1005
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: recently and a book that you've read relatively recently, that

1006
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: you would recommend to people out there for the holiday

1007
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: weekend if they're looking for one. Oh, that's a or

1008
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: movie or movie show or movie. We'll make it a

1009
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: little broader.

1010
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: The show I would just people have heard me talk

1011
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: about this. I'll think about the book for a second.

1012
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: The show, shoh I would go with, is uh the

1013
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: Righteous Gymstones. This is very different from Friday Night Lights,

1014
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: by the way, so let me give you two angles.

1015
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: Friday Night Lights wholesome.

1016
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: I guarantee that you will like it by and large,

1017
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: no matter it's not political.

1018
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: In any way.

1019
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: Righteous Gymstones is outrageously, outrageously provocatively Uh funny, but it

1020
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: is not appropriate for like a ten year old. You

1021
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 3: could watch Friday Night Lights with a ten year old?

1022
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: What about you? What would you?

1023
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: What would your picks be? On television? I I'm always

1024
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: a big proponent for UH for adults, and it's definitely

1025
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: an adults only show. Peaky Blinders for anybody who hasn't

1026
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: seen it. I still haven't seen it. I know you've been,

1027
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: You've been. You and my older brother Mason, every time

1028
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: I see him and we start talking about shows, because

1029
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, that's what brothers. We'll talk about stuff like that.

1030
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, how have you not watched it? Always says

1031
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: he's busy, and I'm like, what does that mean? I'm

1032
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: not busy, Like it's a great show, but he'll he'll

1033
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: get to it at some point. And then so I

1034
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: would throw that one out there for everybody. Carry And

1035
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: I have really loved Outlander, which is again an adult

1036
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: that's not for the whole family. It's an adult's only show.

1037
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: But if you like Scotland, it's it's a whole you know,

1038
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: there's a whole thing there. And then for books, oh man,

1039
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of something that I gave everyone

1040
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Shadow Divers was one of my recks and.

1041
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: Endurance. The Shackleton thing, which you read, I read it.

1042
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: That is phenomenal. That is a great book. It'll make

1043
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: you feel I love reading books. This is maybe just

1044
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 3: me that make me realize what a total once I am.

1045
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: Because I think people have this sense like if you're

1046
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: busy out there. I think it's important. This is why

1047
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 3: I gave everybody the Lewis and Clark expedition on Dawned Courage,

1048
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 3: because I think it's important to recognize how much more

1049
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: challenging circumstances people in our modern history have come through

1050
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: and survived than anything that we deal with today.

1051
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Because I think there's this obsession with.

1052
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: Believing that everything that happens right now I was the

1053
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: worst or the biggest or the most important. Most of

1054
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: the time it isn't. And that's why historical UH study

1055
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: teaches you. I think a lot of I would say

1056
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: humbleness about trying to contextualize your current state. By the way,

1057
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: my wife just weight in buck, she says. She agrees

1058
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: with me. Friday Night Lights best show on broadcast TV

1059
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 3: ever nine O two one oh, she says, is second place.

1060
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that, just if a lot

1061
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: of people were like buying in.

1062
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: As soon as she says this strong was gone, I

1063
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 2: back her up on those are strong choices. I don't

1064
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: know if it'll be my number two slot, but for

1065
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: broadcast TV, I think it's very hard.

1066
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: Has to be an hour long drama. That's the category.

1067
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: So people out there like, what about Seinfeld? What about Friends? No, No,

1068
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking about broadcast drama that everybody could watch for free,

1069
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: not streaming, not HBO, not Showtime, Because I know I'm

1070
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: getting deluged already with people like what about Sopranos HBO show.

1071
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you could watch it for free on television,

1072
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 3: not cable, just regular broadcast television.

1073
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: I'll come back and I'll give a book recommendation here.

1074
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: We'll also look at some of your e VIP emails.

1075
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Clay's gonna give a book as well. We haven't done books.

1076
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: We'll talk books for the Labor Day weekend that we

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Speaker 2: guarantee if you give a shot to including American playbook

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