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Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode really doesn't contain any spoilers, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about light spoilers from our favorite Nintendo

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Speaker 1: Switch games as we celebrate the end of life cycle

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Speaker 1: the iconic Nintendo Switch.

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Speaker 2: Ah we could ever let it die? I Love You,

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Speaker 2: I Love You Switch.

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Speaker 1: Hello, it was Jason Goosepsio and I am Rosie Knight

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Speaker 1: and welcome back. Thanks servision of the podcast movie Dive

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Speaker 1: Deep into your faverit Joe's Movies contacts at Pop Culture

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Speaker 1: Company from My Art podcast, where we're bringing you three

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Speaker 1: huge episodes a week every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we are paying homage and talking about

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Speaker 3: the incredible Nintendo Switch again changing console and Nintendo that

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Speaker 3: would go on to become one of the most popular

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Speaker 3: consoles in.

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Speaker 2: The world and to do that.

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Speaker 4: We are joined by famed and Or Hata, who now

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Speaker 4: loves and Or Aaron Kaufman. And I can't quite explain

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Speaker 4: to you how glamorous common looks right now.

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Speaker 2: It's really quite offensive. It's like ten am in the

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Speaker 2: morning and she.

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Speaker 4: Has like a full blowout and like a fancy Marilyn

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Speaker 4: Momo microphone. So yes, Carmen is joining us too, the

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Speaker 4: world's most good looking gamer.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. First, we're coming to

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Speaker 1: the end of the of the switch. Switch to has

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Speaker 1: been announced. We await its arrival on these shores in

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Speaker 1: like a month. It's like a month. Let's first talk

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Speaker 1: about our Switch MVP. What is the one game? And

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Speaker 1: then after that you're the three games after that that

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Speaker 1: are like you're all stars, but your Switch MVP the

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Speaker 1: one game on the switch that you could not live without.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Let's start with you, Carmen. What was

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Speaker 1: your Switch MVP?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: For me, it was Smash Brothers Ultimate.

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Speaker 1: Wow, favorite character.

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Speaker 5: was either going to be zero Samas SAMs or Banetta,

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Speaker 5: which if I really wanted to piss people off, Bannetta,

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Speaker 5: went close. Second for me is also Animal Crossing, because

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Speaker 5: like came at the perfect time we all needed it.

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Speaker 5: But that was more of just like my solo adventure.

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Speaker 2: Aaron, how about you, I think it has.

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Speaker 6: To be a Breath of the Wild. For me, it

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Speaker 6: and so that would be one hundred percent my number one.

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Speaker 6: I think my number two probably Hades, which just kind

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Speaker 1: Non Nintendo I think that's going to be a popular

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Speaker 4: I would also say like it's it's one of the

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Speaker 4: The idea of what a Switch game could look like

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Speaker 6: The music was incredible. Yeah, absolutely incredible music, and like

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Speaker 6: I think my third would be Overcooked. Another title is

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Speaker 4: Ca that's actually a really interesting point because definitely most.

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Speaker 6: You know, I love what I crashed on the island.

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Speaker 6: Can you find these ten parts hidden in the sand?

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Speaker 4: We had like birthday parties for our friends during people

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Speaker 4: I never had that, like blow your nose, babe, I

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Speaker 4: Or there was some really cool stuff like a shinging

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just look at you just look at the cadence

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Speaker 5: And we didn't get it until yeah, we didn't get

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Speaker 6: It hit it the perfect time. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: My MVP, it's you know, it's probably I would probably

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Speaker 1: It's It's legendary and I play it all the time.

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Speaker 2: Go to IM.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I do think Rosie, that's a really good, really

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Speaker 5: Sorry a boo put in the chat no love.

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Speaker 5: for Mario Party. And I also want to say Mario Party,

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Speaker 5: So an early pick for me was Gree like GSR,

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Speaker 4: been able to find again called Taco Joe, and you

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00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 4: would make tacos as they went underneath, and you'll be

443
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 4: able to be like Taco Joe. And it was like

444
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: really horrible, really horrible animation, you know, very like quite

445
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: gross MTV nineties look. But I was like, oh, this

446
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: is so satisfying, and that has followed me throughout and

447
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: Good Pizza, Great Pizza is really fun. It's not too stressful,

448
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: it's quite relaxing. The pizzas look delicious. You have to

449
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 4: kind of as you play, people will come in and

450
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Speaker 4: say odd things to you, and you have to kind

451
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: of work out what they want from the pizzas, kind

452
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 4: of like riddles.

453
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Speaker 2: They recently just made a new one.

454
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Speaker 4: Called Good Coffee, Great Coffee, which I'm very excited to try.

455
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: Because I love a coffee making game.

456
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 4: I played a lot of coffee time when I first

457
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 4: was really getting into the Switch, and then my second

458
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: one would probably be, oh man, there's just I mean,

459
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: there's just so many amazing indie games on the Switch.

460
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Speaker 4: But recently I've been playing a game that I believe.

461
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Speaker 2: Is called.

462
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 4: Souka or Sweeker. I can't but it's basically you pay.

463
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Speaker 4: It's two ninety nine. It is one of the most

464
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Speaker 4: addicting games I ever play. I started taking my Switch

465
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: on every single plane ride because you can just play

466
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 4: it for hours, and basically it's just this is the

467
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: fact that, yeah, it's kind of like Tetris, but with

468
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: cute fruits, and the fruits have little faces, and if

469
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 4: you match certain fruits together and they touch, they get bigger,

470
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: and you're essentially trying to get to all your fruits

471
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: being watermelons when they will then you know, touch themselves

472
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Speaker 4: and disappear.

473
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Speaker 2: I think I have like never gotten to.

474
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Speaker 4: The point of actually making all the watermelons. It's really hard,

475
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: but it's very fun, and there is my cute sweet

476
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 4: younger friends were playing it, and you can play it

477
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: where it's basically like a leaderboard every day if you're

478
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Speaker 4: playing online. But it is so relaxing. It's really really fun.

479
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: The design is cute and again very good game that

480
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Speaker 4: you can play with a kid, or you can show

481
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Speaker 4: an adult who loves Saduku, and both of them will

482
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Speaker 4: end up loving the game.

483
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Speaker 2: It's like delightfully sweet and like probably that.

484
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Speaker 4: I've bought a lot of Switch games over the years,

485
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Speaker 4: and a lot of them I've bought for very minimal money,

486
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: like Dragon Ball Fighter Zee. I got in a crazy

487
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: sale and became obsessed with it and thought I was

488
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: gonna like try out for EVO because for some reason,

489
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: it's really good. It's so good if you're a button basher.

490
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: So I was suddenly going online and just beating.

491
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Speaker 2: Loads of people and I was like, wait, this is amazing.

492
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Speaker 5: You're beating up children.

493
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: Probably you're just like beating up like fifteen year old too.

494
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this game was nine, and no joke, I

495
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: think it's one of the games I've put the most

496
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Speaker 4: hours into. It's just it's so delightful and so cute

497
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: and so repetitive and just like very very satisfyingly.

498
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Speaker 2: I've played it for hours on.

499
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Speaker 4: Planes when I've been buying, and I just, yeah, it's

500
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: a really lovely game. So Jason tell us about this

501
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 4: game that none of us have ever heard of, Stardu Valley.

502
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Speaker 1: Well, Stardu Valley, I've talked about it at length, So

503
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Speaker 1: I thought I kind of should pick another one, and

504
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: I think Dead Cells is another game that I think

505
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: people are very very aware of if you're a dungeon

506
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: crawler type and you're looking for something Hades like that's

507
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: different than Hades, with the same kind of multitude of

508
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: weapons and tons of value for replay and value added

509
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: after death, all these kind of things. So I was

510
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: thinking underrated game came out. I think it's like a

511
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: seven year old game at this point, and it's available

512
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Speaker 1: on many many platforms. But I thought the on Switch

513
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: is my favorite version of it, and that is Into

514
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: the Breach. Into the Breach is a turn based strategy

515
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: game in which you are basically like in a mech

516
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: war against Kaijus and you have to defend these different

517
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: maps against this invasion. And it is I'm not a

518
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: big like turn based strategy person, but it is. It

519
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: is very addictive and it really gets your I mean,

520
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: it's like a great game. If to your point, if

521
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: you like sudoku, if you like puzzles, if you like

522
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: these little if you like games that get you thinking.

523
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: Into the Breach is perfect because it's kind of like

524
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: each game is like a little game of chess in

525
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: which you've got to figure out like how to appropriately

526
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: position your resources and your characters with the turns that

527
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Speaker 1: you have allotted. And you know, very similar to xcom

528
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: if you've ever played x comm, but super super fun

529
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: with a very appealing kind of sixteen bit kind of

530
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: graphic style. Absolutely loved Into the Breach and I played

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Speaker 1: it a lot and it's the again, the one turn

532
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: based strategy game that really really got me. So I'm

533
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna go underrated and I like

534
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Into the Breach.

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Speaker 6: That's another one too, that you can play for three minutes.

536
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 6: You can pick it up, do one level and turn

537
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 6: it level come back. Yeah, yes, that's another great one.

538
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 6: Two other games that we've called out recently, Blatro and

539
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 6: Animal Well yes are are not Switch exclusives by any means,

540
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 6: but are so good on the Switch. To play Blattro,

541
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: you carry it around you, you know, you take it

542
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 6: on a plane whatever. I think, Rosie, you were the

543
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 6: one who said that they were on a plane and

544
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: there were like three separate people playing it was crazy.

545
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: I mean crazy. It's such a fun game, and just.

546
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not an original, think like everyone

547
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: else on this plane is the same as me.

548
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you were the only one that was you

549
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: taking all the jokers to build a one pair deck.

550
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 6: Everyone else was doing a different strategy. You were doing

551
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: that one pair deck. Yeah, they were doing they were

552
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 6: doing you know, like high card or whatever. That's not fun.

553
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 6: You want the one pair deck. That's what you got

554
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: to have.

555
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: The crazy decks guys. But yeah, I mean, like, I

556
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: think something else about the Switch that is so incredible

557
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: and get most consoles have this right, but with the Switch,

558
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: with the choice to allow other developers to sell games,

559
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: it really did expand the breadth of the games that

560
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: we will remember on the Switch. And I think that

561
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: you could ask one hundred people, and one hundred people

562
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: if you ask them for three maybe the first one

563
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: most people would say it whether it's animal crossing or

564
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: it's Hades. But then once you get to the second

565
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: or third pick, you're really going to be getting to

566
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: learn about those people and the things that they enjoy.

567
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: And I think that, to me is always what I

568
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: will remember about the Switch is that breadth of play

569
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: and the amount of new stuff that I was able

570
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: to try out and kind of look at and you

571
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: know I got.

572
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: I bought like so.

573
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: Many weird eight bit games or like Turn It Boy

574
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: Evades Tax like I played that game was so good,

575
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: Like that game was so brilliant, and I just never

576
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: would have Boy if I hadn't randomly found it in

577
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: the Switch sale. Like I go in there monthly and

578
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: just buy like ten games for like two dollars and

579
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: see what what hits, And often I find great games.

580
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Speaker 6: Which is funny because one of the biggest complaints about

581
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: the Switch, I think is that the Nintendo Store UI

582
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 6: is not great.

583
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: No it's not, but it is cheap.

584
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Speaker 4: Yes, if you want to go in there and buy

585
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: some cool games.

586
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Speaker 1: Guys speaking of criticism. Let's let's it's not a perfect system.

587
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would say that, what is our

588
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 1: number one gripe lifetime gripe about the Switch, Carmen's dand

589
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: immediately common you're lifetime gripe about the Nintendo Switch.

590
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: I am so mad that in the almost decade that

591
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: we had this system, we had the three DS, and

592
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 5: they showed us that we could have these beautiful themes

593
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: on the UI, and we only in the entire lifespan

594
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: of the Switch we got a black and a white

595
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: and that was it. Those were the two themes. I

596
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: really miss my Metroid. I miss when you would like

597
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: put a game in and like it would be like, oh,

598
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: here's the the you know, the theme song and all

599
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: of that kind of ambiance when you put the game

600
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Speaker 5: card into your system. I miss all of those little

601
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: touches that kind of made the three DS feel just

602
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: kind of alive. The Switch throughout its entire lifespan, just

603
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: the UI felt very bland and very boring, and I'm like,

604
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: I know that they can do something so much cooler

605
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: that's on they're just not giving it to us. So

606
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: that is my biggest hope for the UI of the

607
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: switch too, is that we will see themes and all

608
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: of those things return.

609
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Speaker 1: Aaron, your biggest, biggest switch gripe.

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Speaker 6: I have two that come to mind right away. The

611
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 6: first is the lack of Bluetooth or lack of a

612
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 6: headphone port on the Pro controller, because if you want

613
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 6: to play with headphones, you have to be at the

614
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 6: dock or holding it hand olt So on the rare

615
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 6: times that I am playing it on TV, it's either

616
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 6: through speakers or that's it. I do like to be

617
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: able to have headphones, and that's one of the great

618
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: things like with the PS five controller is you can

619
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Speaker 6: plug headphones right into the controller, which is right where

620
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: you are. And the second one is maybe foolish of

621
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 6: me to even want this, but just because you can

622
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you should. And just because you can run,

623
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 6: for instance, Dived into the original Sin or Dark Souls right,

624
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 6: just because these games can run on Nintendo doesn't mean

625
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 6: they should. And there are too many games I bought

626
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 6: where I was like, I'm gonna wait for all these

627
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 6: loading screens, but this is this is a lot, and

628
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 6: I should have played this on something else. Divinity in particular, Yeah.

629
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: That was that was so I was like so tempted

630
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: to pay sixty dollars just to have it because it

631
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: looked so fucked up.

632
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Did you ask, I'm proud of you. I wanted to

633
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: see it so badly. They got me, They got.

634
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rosie, what's your biggest ground?

635
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: I truly am like a switch, like a deep switch lover.

636
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: So I feel like I didn't really have too many gripees,

637
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: but I do.

638
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: I will.

639
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 2: I will just echo common.

640
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: I miss like the aesthetic nature of the DS and

641
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: how you could kind of make it your own. I

642
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: do think the only rate way you can do that

643
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: with the switch is by like making your me character

644
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: really weird. So mine is like an old man called

645
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: like Laser, and every time I see him, I just laugh.

646
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: So that's like I had to find those hats. But

647
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: that is definitely something people want as well, because I

648
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: always was tempted. In the shop, there's a lot of

649
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: like pay a dollar and you can download like.

650
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: This UI that will look this way on your switch.

651
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: But I was like, I'm not doing it and keeping

652
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: I'm keeping myself safe. But you know, I mean, honestly,

653
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: I I doing. It's like pretty much a perfect console.

654
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: I guess my only Oh I know what my gripe

655
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: is actually came gripe. I've been saying on the Internet

656
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: and on this podcast for a long time. Indie games

657
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: take too long to get to the Switch, and I

658
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: have been very tempted throughout the Switch's lifetime to get

659
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Speaker 4: a Steam deck or build a gaming computer, and I

660
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: just haven't been able to commit to it because a

661
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: lot of the kind of games.

662
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: I love are on the Steam are on Steam like

663
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: a year before my.

664
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: My git that before I can play it, like, yeah,

665
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: it's a frog and he's a cozy mail man.

666
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to play it. It's on

667
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: the Steam Deck. Sorry, Rosie, you're you're delivering mail again

668
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: and you're flying through the sky as a witch. Sounds great. Nope,

669
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: not on the Switch yet. So that's that's my gripe.

670
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Took too long to get.

671
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: There, And I hope that developers are happier to put

672
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: that stuff on the Switch earlier, or to pour it earlier,

673
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: because I'll be.

674
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that.

675
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: My number one gripe is Battery Life, you know, like

676
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: it's a portable console and if I'm in the airport

677
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: playing Stardoo or Mario Kart, which is most likely when

678
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be playing. If I have my Switch with

679
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: me and I'm traveling, then I'm done after thirty thirty

680
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: five minutes, like I'm finished, unless I can find a

681
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: place to plug it in. And listen, I understand that

682
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: there are engineering limits here and that this you know,

683
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: there's only so much battery you can pack into this

684
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: very compact form factor. But I, you know, like I think,

685
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: honest playtime on a full battery without being able to

686
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: plug in is got to be less than an hour,

687
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: depending on what kind of game you're playing. Yeah, and

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: not enough. It's not good enough. It just does not

689
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: feel good enough. But listen, small price to pay for

690
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: what I think is an amazing feat of engineering. Let's

691
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll come back, talk more, Switch and

692
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: we're back. Okay. Your favorite memory, either in game or

693
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: playing a game with friends, of the Nintendo Switch. What's

694
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: the most fun, the most indelible memory of yours from

695
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: this now god seven year lifespan? Eat your lifespan of

696
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the Switch, Carmen, let's start with you.

697
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 5: I have to say so one that I didn't talk

698
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 5: about before. That's been one of my favorites. Early on

699
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 5: with snipper Clips. Nipper Clips was fun, fantat you could

700
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 5: play with up to four people.

701
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: But very weird game.

702
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: Yes, whoever came up with that one iconic It's such

703
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 5: a weird but fun game where you can mess with

704
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 5: your friends, help your friends, and you basically are solving

705
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 5: puzzles with these little joy con shaped characters that are

706
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: like snipping and clipping the environment.

707
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: So it looks so Nintendo coded too, you know, it

708
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: is like it's because it is like a it's like

709
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: it was.

710
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Published by Nintendo at least like it.

711
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: It just really I that game. I remember so much

712
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: thinking like, yeah, it looks like it was made to

713
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: be played on this system.

714
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: Yep, Aaron, what about you animal crossing In those first

715
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: couple months of Panideic, I mean, especially being in an

716
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 6: eight hundred square foot apartment in Brooklyn not being able

717
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: to get to nature, that was a lifeline. And we've

718
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: said many times before about how important that wasn't the beginning,

719
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 6: and it didn't necessarily have legs for me in the

720
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: way that I don't go back and visit it that often.

721
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Your islanders are kissed off, and.

722
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 6: Every once in a while I'll get a little something

723
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: in my system, and I'll go back and the first

724
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 6: islander will be like, we haven't seen you in four

725
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: hundred days, guys.

726
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: I do have to give you any because this was

727
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: actually such a big problem that if you played it before,

728
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 4: you knew that they were going to pass argue. It's

729
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: like part of the game, but it became such a

730
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: big problem for people returning to the game that they

731
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: actually did do like an update where they're like less

732
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: rude to you now.

733
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: They just kind of come back and they're like, we

734
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: missed you.

735
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 6: And then But the other one would be playing untitled

736
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: goose game with my wife and multiplayer, and that was

737
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 6: one of the things I thought. Switch kind of brought

738
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 6: back couch yes player, which I really really appreciated, whether

739
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: it's at home or taking it somewhere and playing on

740
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 6: joy CON's a Boot points out his least favorite thing

741
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 6: about the Switch was the Joycon Drift, which we didn't

742
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 6: really talk about that part, but yeah, they're definitely it

743
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: brought back sitting in a room together and playing a

744
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 6: game next to someone else, which I will always love

745
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 6: more than anything else. So that was probably the best thing.

746
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: I think that's a really great way of looking at it,

747
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 4: because definitely, like my friend, my best memories of gaming

748
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: are those memories like with my friend Alex and her

749
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: sister we call a Pickle and we would always be

750
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 4: playing the three DS together and that was definitely a

751
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: lot of the kind of stuff that I loved, And

752
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: I think that my favorite thing about the switch, my

753
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: best memory is it also enabled us to feel like

754
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 4: we were doing that even when people weren't there next

755
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: to us. So like, for example, my nephe me and

756
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 4: my nephew, we would play a lot of the Nintendo

757
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: Family account allows you to have the emulators, and at

758
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: some point, I don't know when we played like Kirby's

759
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: stream World three or something, and we played a game

760
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: on They have a game on that it's called like

761
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: it's like Dina Vox or something, but it's basically a

762
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: Kirby level where you go through and you play as

763
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: Kirby and you can get all the little helpers like

764
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 4: waddle d or Sir Kibble or whatever. But because we

765
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: had fun playing it, my nephew we will still play

766
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: that game. He calls us on WhatsApp and he's like, hey,

767
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: can we can we play a Kirby and you go

768
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: okay then and he wants to play the same level

769
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: and we go through and it's like there's all these

770
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: like phrases like so like when he becomes Sir Kibble,

771
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: like Sir Kibble's back baby, and kind of like all

772
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: these fun like.

773
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: And like when waddle d and waddle doo.

774
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: And just those memories are like so real and like

775
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: great and we're like so incredible when you live like

776
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: somewhere far away from other people. So I definitely think

777
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: the online aspects kind of allowed me to feel like

778
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: I was playing couch co op with my with people

779
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: who were like five thousand miles away, which.

780
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: I think was really special. Jason, how about you?

781
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: What about me? It's gotta be gosh, you know, many

782
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: many nights of late night Mario Kart eight arguments at

783
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: friends houses. But I think in terms of and I

784
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: agree that Animal Crossing in terms of just being a

785
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: emotional like lifeline, a social lifeline, a way to connect

786
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: with people at a time when you just could not

787
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: actually physically connect with people, was a kind of you

788
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: had to be there kind of situation. But my number

789
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: one would be another you had to be their situation.

790
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: Was the lusting after Prince Sidon in these first weeks

791
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: of the release of Breath of the Wild, which was

792
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: like I had not gotten to him yet, so I

793
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: found it like I was like, what the fuck, Like

794
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: what is happening? Like this is so inexplicable. And then

795
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: when I eventually did get to him, like what a

796
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, like awesome level and you know, getting the

797
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: rubber suit was super important for traversing that particular landscape,

798
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: but like it was just one of the weirdest, strangest,

799
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: most like what is happening in this world? Yeah, kind

800
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: of organic feeling, lusting after a animated character that it

801
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: was just you had to be there. You had to

802
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: be there to experience that because it feeling it really

803
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: feels like we got that got lost. Well, you don't

804
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: talk about how how intense that was. For like a month,

805
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: people just like absolutely.

806
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: On fever.

807
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Fever baby real the fan are the It was amazing,

808
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: insane and just incredible.

809
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: And that was that.

810
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: Those early days were cool too, because I felt like

811
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: it was we could be we were like living vicariously

812
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: through other people's excitement too, So like even if you

813
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: were like, oh, like how do you you know like

814
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: this is crazy, but you're like, yeah, like I love

815
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: that people love this guy, Like you know what I mean.

816
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: It's like I just think that there's so much interesting.

817
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

818
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: It was a really lovely time and also like a

819
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: great time for funny fairies online.

820
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: I remember that specifically because that was around the same

821
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: time that The Shape of Water was out. Oh yeah,

822
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: and so there was just a wonderful period in time

823
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 5: where we had two beautiful fish.

824
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 6: I forget did make it into our list of Hottest

825
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 6: fish creatures when we were talking about it on Creature Commanders.

826
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 6: I think.

827
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: I think so if he.

828
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Didn't, then I am giving an official Selby apology to

829
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: side on his fans.

830
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 6: He should have been that if he wants put in

831
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 6: the chat, he wants us all to know that he

832
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: has sight on still as his lock screen on his phone.

833
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: We love you.

834
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: I also loved the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom

835
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: when everyone was posting the wildest ship that they were building, Like,

836
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 6: here's a robot with an enormous penis.

837
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: I was, how are people doing this? Oh my god,

838
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: I saw that robot where the penis like looks up.

839
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 4: And then like shoots out and then like shoots out

840
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: like bombs up people.

841
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: I do I do want to I think it was

842
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: a laser, but.

843
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know there was fires. There were like

844
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: fire bombs at something.

845
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: But like I also just do want to shout out

846
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: tis the Kingdom because like, what on a how did

847
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: they program that game? And like they could have just

848
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: made a jupe of Breath of the Wild that was

849
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: just different levels, different characters.

850
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: That would have been fine. That's what most games are,

851
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: we love them.

852
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: But instead they were like, hey, we're just going to

853
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: add this secondary feature that is essentially going to change

854
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 4: the entire mechanics of the game and mean that for

855
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: there will be like multiple people who are putting thousands

856
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: of hours into this game.

857
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: Not only that, but we're going to add an underworld.

858
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: A sky world was.

859
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: So crazy, how deep you could go into it, like

860
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: it was so yeah, just crazy.

861
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, will be rebut and we're back.

862
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: So I was going to ask you, are you excited

863
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 5: to replay? Will you replay Breath of the Wild on

864
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: the switch to with the updated graphics?

865
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, absolutely, that will probably be the first

866
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 4: thing that I do, because I do still find myself

867
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: getting like It's hard to explain just how blown away

868
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: I was by when when when Jason lent me the

869
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: PS five and I played the remastered Last of Us

870
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, and then I played Diablo four,

871
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: which is still up there is like one of my

872
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: favorite games I've ever played, and I was like, oh,

873
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: I get it. Like I love the Switch. I love

874
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: I love, love love the games on the Switch. It's

875
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: always going to be my favorite console. Hopefully switch To

876
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: will take that place, but having those kind of graphics

877
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: is a completely different. And I love Breath of the Wild.

878
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: I gotta have the HD for my cooking. I gotta

879
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: be cooking some apples in a pan and see the sizzling.

880
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna finish. I'm not gonna finish it. I'm

881
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: just gonna do a lot of cooking and write a deer.

882
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: But yes, I will be double purchasing that game.

883
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: They will get me there, Okay, Rapid Fire. Question to

884
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: leave us with first favorite port, favorite port from another

885
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: system to play on the Switch, Aaron, start with you.

886
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Dark Souls just because that is

887
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 6: actually is It is the game that introduced me to

888
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: the soul genre. And I will fully admit it is

889
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: only I had been so hesitant about it before, and

890
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 6: it's only because I was excited about elden Ring because

891
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 6: George R. Martin was writing it, and so I was like,

892
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 6: you know what, let me try what this game is like.

893
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 6: And I bought Dark Souls and I have texts to

894
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: my friends where I was like, how is there no like?

895
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: How can I pause and the enemies keep moving and

896
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 6: kill me? And then a friend was just like, welcome

897
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 6: to Dark Souls. And then here I am later like

898
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: downloading all these other Souls like games, burning all these

899
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 6: hours into elden Ring. So that would be my favorite port,

900
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 6: even if it wasn't necessarily like the smoothest. It was

901
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: just the one that I put the most time and

902
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 6: love into.

903
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: Common what about you?

904
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: Thank you for this opportunity to talk about my face

905
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 5: for a game franchise that I didn't start playing until

906
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 5: it was on the Switch after it was ten years old.

907
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 5: But the entire banet a franchise, Oh yes, yeah, super

908
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 5: stand and I started playing it on the Switch after

909
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: I got into her as a Smash Brother's character, I said,

910
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 5: who is this brand? At a chick? I want to

911
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 5: play these games, and I very quickly became addicted to

912
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: playing the levels, replaying the levels in order to increase

913
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: my my score and unlocking the different weapons and whatnot.

914
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 5: And I'm like, hell yeah, I love the switch, So yeah,

915
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: that was probably my favorite port. I would say one

916
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: that is more chill is Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, which

917
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 5: was I love that game, and that's a perfect airport

918
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 5: game because you can just solve a puzzle and it's

919
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 5: so much fun.

920
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: I think that my favorite pool.

921
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: And it's really funny because this is like the game

922
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: is so perfect for the switch that it almost feels

923
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: like a cheat.

924
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: But when they put Katamari Dancy on there, I was just.

925
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 5: Like, that was just it.

926
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: Like I played that game for so long. I used

927
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: to love playing that game. I just I love it.

928
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: It looks perfect on the switch, works perfect on the switch.

929
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: The Dad character still fucking sucks, like that guy. I

930
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: like that is triggering us out. But I'm like, that's fine, Dad,

931
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna build this three millimeters wide underground rap ball

932
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 4: or whatever. And I've definitely had a lot of fun

933
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: introducing other people to Katamuri who've never played it, and

934
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: again talk about a good soundtrack, like I know those

935
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: songs off by heart.

936
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: They are all bangers.

937
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

938
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: I was so happy when I realized that was on

939
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: the Switch and that was definitely and it still is.

940
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 4: It's I think it's another great game where if you're

941
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: at an airport or you're just in the dentist office

942
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: or whatever, you can just play one level.

943
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: And stress out. It's a very good stress really verse,

944
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: yes it is.

945
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: It's very low down.

946
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: Some animals.

947
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 6: Big enough, just.

948
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: Stop mubbing down people, apartment buildings, kaiju. There's definitely some

949
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: Godzilla lookalikes in that. So yeah, look that game is

950
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: just so fun.

951
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my favorite report very easily Skyrim. It's Skyrim.

952
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: I play it all the time. I think my number

953
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: one played run through on the Switch for Skyrim is

954
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: like a Barbarian with like ice destruction powers. I will

955
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: say now that I've been playing the Oblivion remaster, i

956
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: am remembering why Oblivion is so great, and it really

957
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: is great.

958
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: But for me, the.

959
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Open worldness of Skyrim is just incredible. And to have

960
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: that like at your fingertips on the switch in a

961
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: pretty playable like there's been I was very excited about

962
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: the the Wham ports to Switch. They were disastrously fucking.

963
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: Shot that was a big fun for me.

964
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: They really really sucked. I've been excited about other ports,

965
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: but the Skyrim port, which I believe was a day

966
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: one port, very very playable, and I could not have

967
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: been more happy to have that. Like wherever I was

968
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: on my Switch.

969
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 6: I have a question for everyone kind of along the

970
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: lines of Skyrim. So I think one of the joys

971
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 6: of Switch obviously is the portability, but I also think

972
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 6: for anyone who plays mobile games, you play mobile games

973
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 6: on your phone that are not the highest quality, they

974
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 6: just are there the past time, do you think you

975
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 6: played more things on Switch that were kind of popcorn

976
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 6: games that really you did they didn't deserve to put

977
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 6: have as many hours put into them as you did.

978
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: Because I definitely have some things where I'm like, I

979
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: only played this because I mean I put one hundred

980
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 6: hours into NBA two K nineteen, which was not particularly good,

981
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 6: but I was just like, oh, I can I can

982
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 6: do the season mode on the plane, And here I

983
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 6: am like, not really enjoying myself that much, but I'm

984
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: firing up another season and here we go, like, are

985
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 6: there other games like that for you where you were

986
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 6: you're embarrassed by how much time you put into some games.

987
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely, I definitely have put a lot of

988
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: time into the games. But I have to say I'm

989
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: such a fan of the Switch that I don't really

990
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: think there's ever been one more.

991
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: Why did I do this?

992
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I just I just love

993
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: Could you say that, like eight hundred hours in stad

994
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: you is time wasted?

995
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: Someone could argue that.

996
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: Not for me?

997
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: What was yours?

998
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: Common I will say animal crossing, trying to get all

999
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: of my boulders into one place. I don't know if

1000
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 5: anyone's ever done that before, but that is a maddening

1001
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 5: experience where you are having to place things in every

1002
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: square of your islands so you can get the boulders

1003
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 5: to spawn exactly where you want them. So that probably

1004
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 5: a waste of my time.

1005
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1006
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Okay. Other rapid fire questions Breath of the Wild or

1007
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Tears of the Kingdom, Aaron of the Kingdom, Carmen.

1008
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 5: Tears of the Kingdom. I know she.

1009
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 6: Had to make some robots.

1010
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, my heart's my heart says Breath of the Wild,

1011
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: My head says Tears of the Kingdom and then finally

1012
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: switch to We'll be here soon. But you know, I

1013
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: think tariffs other things. It's going to be one pricey

1014
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: and too probably hard to get. If you recall back

1015
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: to the days of the initial release of the Switch,

1016
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: it was just.

1017
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: Not escially in the Animal Crossing air.

1018
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it was just not around. So let's say you

1019
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: can't get a switch to or it's going to be

1020
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: a while. What should we be playing instead, Carmen, what

1021
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: should we be playing instead? If we can't get a

1022
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: switch to?

1023
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: Would you play on the Switch?

1024
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 5: That's recently added to the Switch and still a very

1025
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: fun game with new events happening all the time. Animal

1026
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: crossing or Hello Kitty. I cannot say the name without

1027
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: saying animal crossing first.

1028
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: It's an animal crossing doup with Helloky, so I get it.

1029
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: Yes, the animal crossing, fucking Hello.

1030
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: Kitty, Aaron, how about you?

1031
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 6: This game is unfortunately not on the Switch Blueprints. I

1032
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 6: have just been in love with this game. Yeah yeah,

1033
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 6: And people are talking about in the discord and I

1034
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 6: love hearing as people progress and there's a new puzzle

1035
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 6: that we've just found and this is happening. I absolutely

1036
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 6: love Blueprints. If you only are playing games on the

1037
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 6: Switch and you can't play it on PlayStation, Xbox or Steam.

1038
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 6: I have recently been having a lot of fun with

1039
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 6: this game called Katana Zero. Katana zero is a very

1040
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 6: very fast paced action game. But it's each room is

1041
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 6: a level and you kind of plan out your moves

1042
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 6: and then it enacts them and you can freeze and

1043
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 6: like react to things. It is kind of the opposite

1044
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 6: of some of these other things we've talked about. It's

1045
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 6: being these really cozy games where you you like take

1046
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 6: all this time and make a nice little village or something.

1047
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 6: This is like fast paced energy slicing up guys and

1048
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 6: you have to like be jumping from one guy as

1049
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 6: you slice them to the next one and dodging a bullet.

1050
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 6: And that is another really fun game. It's old, but

1051
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 6: a really fun one. But Blueprints, if you have something

1052
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 6: other than.

1053
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: Switch about you, Rosie okay mine is This is one

1054
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: of my favorite games on the Switch.

1055
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: I play it all the time. It's really relaxing. It's

1056
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: really good if you want to go to bed.

1057
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: It's called Pokemon Cafe Remix and it is basically you

1058
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: run a cafe with Pokemon obs and basically it's like

1059
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 4: a match three game, but with way more intro resting

1060
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: kind of mechanics and very cute vibes.

1061
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: And every time you do a puzzle and you win,

1062
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: you add a new delicious thing to.

1063
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: Your menu and it will be like delightful fluffy pancakes

1064
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: that look like Evie's butt or something like.

1065
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: It's it's like, really really cute, and I love it.

1066
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: And if I'm feeling stressed, I immediately just go to

1067
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 4: that game and it's free.

1068
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 5: Say something funny about that game, please. I played that

1069
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: game so much that I ran out of levels to play,

1070
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 5: and wow, developers could not release levels.

1071
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: Fast and they couldn't keep up with you. You were

1072
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: like people who first played Candy Crush and they got

1073
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: to that and they're.

1074
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 4: Like, where's the next level, and the developers like trying

1075
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 4: really hard to add levels for me.

1076
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Listen, the Oblivion remaster is out and you should play

1077
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: it if you've never played Oblivion or if you're a

1078
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: fan of the original, because I go to play so good.

1079
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: It's so so good. The questing is awesome. It's probably

1080
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: the best version of being able to join factions that

1081
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: we've seen in.

1082
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 6: A in a.

1083
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, Elder Scrolls game better than the better apply

1084
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: that it is in Skyrim, and it just looks amazing.

1085
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: But I already said that, so I'm going to pick.

1086
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: This is a game that is like is this game

1087
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: ten years old or eight years old or something? But

1088
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: like let's see, you can't get the switch because like

1089
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's expensive. Man, the forest. This game is old. Okay,

1090
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: this game is you can get on a PlayStation game

1091
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: on Xbox. You can get it on almost any platform,

1092
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: and there is a newer version called Sons of.

1093
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: The I remember this game, yes, but the but the forest.

1094
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Here's why it's great. Your character crash lands on an

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00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: island of like cannibals, and you have to chop down trees,

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Speaker 1: catch fish to feed yourself, and like build various four

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Speaker 1: to defend yourself from the cannibals, including traps, including all

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Speaker 1: these kind of like water collection things. The building is wonderful,

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Speaker 1: and the cannibals get smarter and more dangerous. There's underground

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Speaker 1: areas that are really really scary, and it's got everything.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to play the game, don't play the game,

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Speaker 1: just like build different forts and like hold that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I've I've played the game so many times that

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Speaker 1: all I do now is just build a huge fortress

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Speaker 1: and defend the walls from cannibals like night and day.

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Speaker 1: That's all I do, and like gather food and eat fish.

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Speaker 1: Really fun game, The Forest on sale right now, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm end This is what I'm talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: a dollar ninety nine, and I think when it's not

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Speaker 1: on sale it's four ninety nine, So incredible value for

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Speaker 1: a game that is about eight years old and still

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Speaker 1: runs wonderfully and again is really scary and fun. The Forest, folks,

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Speaker 1: this has been fantastic to talk about the switch with

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Speaker 1: you and to celebrate really a friend, a friend that

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Speaker 1: is saying goodbye ya. Next few episodes of xra Vision,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about John Wick. We're debating whether Elder Scrolls

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Speaker 1: Oblivion or Elder Scroll Skyrim is the number one Elder

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Speaker 1: Scrolls game, and we're gonna have news. That's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening by x ray Vision is

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Speaker 1: hosted by Jason Concepcion.

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Speaker 2: And Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Joelminique and Aaron Klefman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.

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Speaker 4: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.

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Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman.

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Speaker 4: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 4: Heidi Our disc called moderate, though