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Speaker 1: Daughter returns.
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Speaker 1: two to eighty six, playing for the Columbus Clippers. I
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Speaker 1: They say. They say Columbus is extraordinarily different from when
Speaker 1: I was there forty years ago.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, what do you think of this episode?
Speaker 1: I think we better synopsize first. Okay, okay, so I
Speaker 1: need to gather my thoughts.
Speaker 3: I get it, I may disagree with all of you.
Speaker 1: We're hoping you do.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: This episode is season six, episode nine, The Prodigal Daughter Returns.
Speaker 4: It aired on November fifteenth, two thousand and five. A
Speaker 4: surprise phone call from Christopher brings up issues of trust
Speaker 4: between Lourai and Luke. Rory moves out of the Gilmours,
Speaker 4: and Emily feels like she's lost her like she lost Laurai.
Speaker 4: A person from Luke's past shows up and stars hollow,
Speaker 4: and after months of estrangement, Lorlai and Rory make their
Speaker 4: first move toward reconciliation, and Rory takes major steps to
Speaker 4: change the direction of her life.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I will comment on and thank
Speaker 1: you Suzanne. That was spectacular.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 1: I called Tara, Tara, you no La, I'm confused on
Speaker 1: my own podcast. The one comment I will make about
Speaker 1: this episode, and I don't want anybody to judge. I'm
Speaker 1: not judging the episode yet. I just want to make
Speaker 1: a comment if if you don't buy into the where
Speaker 1: the story has gone, it's hard. The impact is lessened
Speaker 1: when the lines get tied up or tied together, or
Speaker 1: come to fruition and conclusion.
Speaker 2: Will you be a little more specific on that or
Speaker 2: do you not want to? Is that moving forward?
Speaker 1: I saw. I thought it was as good an episode
Speaker 1: as you can get.
Speaker 3: I agree, I totally agree, given.
Speaker 1: The circumstances that I didn't buy into all of the
Speaker 1: narratives leading up to this.
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Okay, got it, got okay?
Speaker 1: You understand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're saying, like the narrative of maybe Rory
Speaker 2: dropping out.
Speaker 3: Of school or.
Speaker 2: Or Luke and Lorlai having conflict or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: if you if you buy into that, then this becomes
Speaker 2: a home run, right.
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: And I thought it was extraordinarily well written and directed.
Speaker 1: I agree, absolutely, and it was, and it was beautifully
Speaker 1: acted on everybody's part. And when there was the guy
Speaker 1: at the newspaper that Rory was stalking, who was terrific,
Speaker 1: by the way, whoever that guy.
Speaker 2: Was, Oh my god, we're trying to get him on.
Speaker 2: He's great, he was terrific, famous, he's like, does tons
Speaker 2: of work, he.
Speaker 1: Does tons of work. I did recognize him. I apologize
Speaker 1: for not knowing his name. No, no, no, no, but
Speaker 1: I thought that this is when I was missing Mitch.
Speaker 1: This is what I was missing Logan. So mitcham should
Speaker 1: be stepping in and doing this tidying up with Rory
Speaker 1: so so he's such.
Speaker 3: An ass he won't do it. He needed this other guy.
Speaker 3: We needed the guy behind the guy.
Speaker 1: Anyway, That's kind of how I felt about it, and
Speaker 1: I felt very It felt very again, I don't. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the episode and I was riveted to it. I
Speaker 1: really really.
Speaker 3: Loved cried multiple times you did.
Speaker 2: Cried full tears, plain scene, full tears, reunited Lower Lion Rory,
Speaker 2: full tears.
Speaker 3: And I didn't.
Speaker 1: The reuniting thing didn't hit me because.
Speaker 3: It seemed too too easy to drop.
Speaker 1: Too easy. Yeah she was, she was distracted while driving
Speaker 1: talking on her cell phone, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: It made me you're not wrong, But I still cried,
Speaker 2: and then I cried for you.
Speaker 3: I cried that I thought you.
Speaker 2: Did so well portraying what someone would go through realizing
Speaker 2: this was happening, and still trying to be like normal
Speaker 2: with a child. I thought the scene at the science fair,
Speaker 2: the way you acted that was so well done because
Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, I'm like feeling anxious for you, right.
Speaker 1: My favorite season was when she came in and introduced
Speaker 1: her sort of pulled the hair out of my head.
Speaker 3: Giant helmet, but the helmet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been waiting to say this because this may
Speaker 6: be an unpopular opinion, and I've been waiting for you
Speaker 6: to see this episode.
Speaker 3: I don't hate April. You know, there's like me too.
Speaker 3: People people do not like her, and I was gonna
Speaker 3: say the same thing. I actually love her.
Speaker 2: I did too, I always did them and now the
Speaker 2: rewatch I do just as much.
Speaker 4: Like April's not the problem. It's Luke's reaction to April movie.
Speaker 4: You know what we haven't seen, like not not what
Speaker 4: we saw in the current moving forward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, Well should we just go to the
Speaker 2: beginning or is it? Yeah, so we'll go through it
Speaker 2: because there's so many major scenes. The plane scene was
Speaker 2: so heart wrenching, like.
Speaker 3: It gutted me.
Speaker 2: But we'll get to the big stuff at the end.
Speaker 2: So we start with the door chained, which I did
Speaker 2: laugh out loud.
Speaker 3: Maybe only Scott and I got it. Well. Actually, Susan
Speaker 3: Land Shark.
Speaker 1: He's like Candy Gram. He did a Saturday Night You
Speaker 1: have to get that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: It was a famous character Saturday a shark thing. It
Speaker 1: would knock on people's doors and then it was like
Speaker 1: a giant mascot sharks, totally goofy looking and harmless looking,
Speaker 1: and then it would eat people if they answered the door,
Speaker 1: and he would like, knock on the door, who's there?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The house looked beautiful. Luke had made the house look amazing.
Speaker 2: I are going didn't know if it was real fire
Speaker 2: some kind of fake TV fire, but I was super
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 1: I think that was a real deal.
Speaker 3: Seemed like it.
Speaker 2: The photos are on the banister, the fall pumpkins are out, like,
Speaker 2: the house looks amazing.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've had that many scenes of people
Speaker 2: walking down the hallway upstairs, so that was sort.
Speaker 3: Of new and exciting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: And I never realized she has double doors in her bedrooms.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that was part of the remodel. I don't
Speaker 2: know it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she didn't before in the like the earlier seasons,
Speaker 4: it was just the single doorway, So that must have
Speaker 4: been part of the whole remodel. We do in the
Speaker 4: bathroom like the on suite bathroom and exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do y'all think of the bedroom set?
Speaker 1: Oh that was hysterical. That was so gnarly bad. It
Speaker 1: was so bad the cherubs when she said, yes, look
Speaker 1: at the cherubs. Yes, there's many of them.
Speaker 4: My grandmother had like that, and it is still in
Speaker 4: my mother's.
Speaker 3: House to this, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the guest room. It's and so when
Speaker 4: when we stay there, I have to sleep in it,
Speaker 4: and it's it's an experience.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at I love Grandma Chic. I'm all
Speaker 2: for it. But that was some heavy I think he
Speaker 2: could have maybe figured out the bed, but it was
Speaker 2: the sailboat.
Speaker 1: Painting, all of it, all of it.
Speaker 3: Totally the wrong size, Like it was just that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of carved dark wood that you got to wake up to.
Speaker 1: You wake up to that and you're like, it's the
Speaker 1: eighteen forties. What's happening here? And you wake up next
Speaker 1: to Abe Lincoln? Like what's going on?
Speaker 2: Not to be terrible, but the curtains are also awful, awful,
Speaker 2: like those should have gone with the remodel.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Like what's with Luke Danes and his his
Speaker 1: bedroom taste not great? You gotta give it a thumbs down.
Speaker 1: What's he thinking about? What's he thinking about?
Speaker 3: I think he just doesn't know any better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like and also I think it's sort
Speaker 2: of glossed over, but I think it's important that he
Speaker 2: remembers going to the storage unit with her and her
Speaker 2: saying she liked it, so he remembers things always and
Speaker 2: he's trying to do something good. She shouldn't have lied
Speaker 2: at the storage room five years ago and said she
Speaker 2: liked it.
Speaker 3: She doesn't.
Speaker 1: Anyway, It's quite funny.
Speaker 2: So then we go to the scene Luke goes off
Speaker 2: to make his risotto and we go to the scene
Speaker 2: which I actually thought was quite funny with the muffin,
Speaker 2: the dramatic muffin like we eat in the dining room
Speaker 2: Rory and the two of them fighting is pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: It's nah, it was cringey. It's cringey to me.
Speaker 3: Really, I think it's time.
Speaker 1: It's the I disliked that part of this whole series
Speaker 1: the most, with Emily and Rory fighting just outright contempt
Speaker 1: for each other. I hate that.
Speaker 8: I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's so important, it's so important.
Speaker 1: To somebody to help me out here. It's disturbing. It's disturbing,
Speaker 1: the disturbing images.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't I don't like it either. I just think, well, again,
Speaker 8: I agree with Amy. I think it has to do
Speaker 8: with the story. It's not like how i'd prefer them
Speaker 8: to be. But I didn't think it was cringey. I
Speaker 8: just think it was like I didn't want to see it,
Speaker 8: Like it just makes me bummed, That's what I wasspectful.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I totally agree with you.
Speaker 8: Awful behavior, awful, But we needed it because of what
Speaker 8: comes up in the plane scene and the storyline, like
Speaker 8: we just we need it, like Amy said, even though
Speaker 8: I don't like it, we need it, right.
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, guys.
Speaker 1: So let's refer to my opening statement.
Speaker 2: That's right, Scott, really great point because all roads lead
Speaker 2: to essentially that plane scene. The plane scene is so
Speaker 2: major for the whole show in so many ways. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to talk about it. But Scott makes us
Speaker 2: going harder just kidding, so I, uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only keep this stallion on the track
Speaker 1: for so long.
Speaker 3: I actually really liked the scene.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we then go into the kitchen at the inn,
Speaker 2: and I think I thought Melissa McCarthy was a ten
Speaker 2: out of ten in this episode. She's so funny and
Speaker 2: when she says why do you hate it?
Speaker 3: And Laura I.
Speaker 2: Sort of lists off all the reasons why she shouldn't
Speaker 2: hate it because she's right. Luke is so good to her,
Speaker 2: and I was really happy to see her point that
Speaker 2: out to others and herself.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys think.
Speaker 4: It was good to see that self awareness because as
Speaker 4: much as I love Laura I, she can be a
Speaker 4: little self centered. And I think seeing her actually acknowledge
Speaker 4: that was good because sometimes the women in this show
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of self awareness, and in that situation,
Speaker 4: it was nice to see her acknowledging.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, she's a bit of a star in Stars Hollow,
Speaker 1: isn't She's She's like she's like the like the Queen
Speaker 1: Bee person. She's like the star, She's like the superstar
Speaker 1: of the town.
Speaker 3: She's like Suzanne. I get it. I totally.
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like to be Emily, trust me.
Speaker 2: I liked having that acknowledgment. I think that scene was important.
Speaker 2: So then this cracked me up. We see Richard come
Speaker 2: home and you kind of don't know what's happening. I
Speaker 2: sort of had forgotten about that little hidden desk behind
Speaker 2: the stairs and then when Colin and Finn come down,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I actually laughed out loud when Kinn.
Speaker 3: Says, you're safe. Return Darling is all I need. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm actually dead at these two. That black nails.
Speaker 9: He's so like, yeah, I actually had I'll just say
Speaker 9: my favorite line now because it was from the scene
Speaker 9: that's when Richard's like, who the hell are you and
Speaker 9: Finn goes if I knew I could dismiss my therapist.
Speaker 2: So I could watch it five times because it's really
Speaker 2: fast and there's so many funny lines and like Colin,
Speaker 2: you know, you know my father, Like it's just like
Speaker 2: it's that my tenis racket, like the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I was just like, this is awesome.
Speaker 8: It's funny because you're not supposed to like them, but
Speaker 8: you kind of love them, you know, I love them,
Speaker 8: So that was amusing.
Speaker 2: I do have one flag that we're not quite there yet,
Speaker 2: but so now we go back to the diner and.
Speaker 3: We sort of have the Laane Lorelei.
Speaker 2: Revelation, although the nacho thing, like why are you trying
Speaker 2: to have baked chips? But I guess she was trying
Speaker 2: to keep her healthy soil.
Speaker 4: The whole red needlell kill you line right, stealth dieticians,
Speaker 4: stealth nutrition.
Speaker 2: I love that she just like bellies up to the
Speaker 2: table for some nachos, like in the middle of the day,
Speaker 2: like it's ordering that anyway. So we sort of have
Speaker 2: the awkwardness between l Lane and Laurlai, which I don't know.
Speaker 3: I it didn't. It was fine for me, you guys.
Speaker 8: I thought it was I thought it was weird because
Speaker 8: like Lane grew up with Laura l I like, I
Speaker 8: don't know, I just I understand maybe not wanting to
Speaker 8: tell her to make her feel bad, but like avoiding
Speaker 8: her felt a little weird.
Speaker 10: I agree.
Speaker 8: Just don't tell her, Yeah, just just don't bring it
Speaker 8: up because Laurla doesn't have a clue, so it's.
Speaker 2: Landing planes here, which was also weird because it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: she's at the table, like you're acting like the restaurant
Speaker 2: doesn't exist other than you like hey, hey, it's like okay,
Speaker 2: what But also Laane, just say hey and just don't
Speaker 2: tell her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not like she she has no clue, so
Speaker 8: it's not like she it would even like remotely come
Speaker 8: up unless she's like have you talked to Rory which
Speaker 8: doesn't happen that often.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like Lane's awkwardness is what made Laura
Speaker 4: I ask her what's going on? Like if Lane had
Speaker 4: just played it cool, it wouldn't have even been a conversation.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know, there's something else I wanted
Speaker 2: to point out I and some have happened I think
Speaker 2: at this point, and some haven't. Did you all notice
Speaker 2: the subliminal message of trust that is mentioned throughout this episode?
Speaker 2: There are references to trust already in this episode and
Speaker 2: we haven't even gotten to the big moment between Luke
Speaker 2: and Lorelai where it's like we can't hide things from
Speaker 2: each other and Scott may not know why it's coming,
Speaker 2: but Suzanne, Tara and I do, And it's like it
Speaker 2: was almost too over the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know why it's coming, I know why
Speaker 1: it's there, and I know what's coming. So yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like that seemed almost too I love foreshadowing more than anybody,
Speaker 2: but it seemed too much.
Speaker 1: It was a little extreme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it a little.
Speaker 1: Much for me, But do you think you think that
Speaker 1: was added character for Luke to pop that much?
Speaker 8: I think extent he did, Yes, like being upset, Yes,
Speaker 8: but he just kind of like, like you said, he
Speaker 8: just popped off like I expected him to be upset,
Speaker 8: but it considering the last time he didn't say anything
Speaker 8: this to calm yourselves.
Speaker 3: Calm yourselves. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
Speaker 3: Calm yourselves.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you brought it up.
Speaker 3: I know, sorry, and then you smack us down before
Speaker 3: we get to that. We're almost there.
Speaker 2: We've got two more things I think before that, the bit,
Speaker 2: the recurring bit of Zach being irritated that Rory is
Speaker 2: using the paper towels or the sponge or the soap
Speaker 2: or the cereal, the cheese nips.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I kuld have skip so annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like it sort of made me giggle once,
Speaker 2: but then on the fifteenth time, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: care stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that scene was beneath Rory.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When she's like.
Speaker 1: That scene was beneath the show. That was one scene
Speaker 1: I would have remembered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like, did you need three more minutes
Speaker 3: like chill?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I I had have taken three minutes of
Speaker 1: Suki rolling around on the ugly bed.
Speaker 3: I know I would have.
Speaker 2: Actually, you're right, I would have taken more, Melissa, like
Speaker 2: you know. So we have one more scene till we
Speaker 2: get to my favorite scene of the episode. But now
Speaker 2: we see Rory with Stuart on the phone, so we've
Speaker 2: seen her on the phone getting the good wreck and
Speaker 2: that becomes important for what unfolds. So you know, they're
Speaker 2: having a nice communication and we realize he's sort of
Speaker 2: saying I don't know what Mitch's problem was, and she's
Speaker 2: sort of saying like, yeah, I am a good journalist,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I liked that, and I also thought it was
Speaker 2: very sweet that Lane made her a grilled cheese. I
Speaker 2: literally must have been hungry watching it because I was like,
Speaker 2: I love that grilled cheese, Like, don't forget your cheese.
Speaker 1: And that's something about food on TV. It's always, my god, always.
Speaker 2: Just still thinking about your risotto.
Speaker 3: We haven't even gotten to the burger debate. So we.
Speaker 2: Go to the scene and it's kind of a long
Speaker 2: scene because it has multiple parts with Jackson, Luke, Suki,
Speaker 2: and Laurli having dinner. So I'll just overview it and
Speaker 2: then we can dig into it. So it basically has
Speaker 2: a few things. One is it has Jackson and Luke
Speaker 2: having or sort of burger fight whatever, and then Suki
Speaker 2: and lower Lie seeing the hideous bed, the message from Christopher,
Speaker 2: the awkward Luke saying we don't fight in front of guests,
Speaker 2: the awkward dinner, all the way to the big explosion,
Speaker 2: and over to Luke's apartment.
Speaker 3: So let's just talk about it all.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me try to justify Luke's reaction from
Speaker 1: the male perspective, the territorial male perspective, please do, and
Speaker 1: it's and it's as if you and I will uh,
Speaker 1: I think Obviously, Intellectually, he understands that Christopher is going
Speaker 1: to be in their lives to one extent or another
Speaker 1: because he's Rory's dad. There's there's just no question about it.
Speaker 1: Sure emotion, he's so all in at this point, and
Speaker 1: he's waiting for Lorelei to be ready to set a
Speaker 1: date for the wedding, right, and this is an underlying
Speaker 1: stress and tension for him and insecurity for him that
Speaker 1: he's already covering and being a good guy about. He's
Speaker 1: really a little probably worked up about it, but he's
Speaker 1: not gonna pop, right. It just took this to send
Speaker 1: him into a little bit of a rant, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, now we have to deal
Speaker 1: with this guy, and now you're you're postponing the way
Speaker 1: he got excuse. Now there's going to be another excuse,
Speaker 1: and what the hell? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Well, and it was the cause of their breakup.
Speaker 1: Right, it's it's right, it's a it's a sensitive And
Speaker 1: another thing is is it's territorial because that's Luke's living
Speaker 1: there now. He paid for the reconstruction on the house.
Speaker 1: That's his domain, that's his castle. Now that he's should well,
Speaker 1: actually he's sharing it. You know. It's pretty much a
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty splitter, maybe even a seventy thirty or
Speaker 1: sixty forty split more more toward Laurel. It's really her house.
Speaker 1: But he's in there now, right, So it's the first
Speaker 1: time he's dug in. He feels like his dreams are
Speaker 1: coming true. He's going to have a great life and
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to deal with the complications from her
Speaker 1: past any longer. As they say, triggering, how dare Christopher
Speaker 1: and his Luke's mind is saying, how dare this guy
Speaker 1: leave a message for Laurel? I that he knows I
Speaker 1: can hear. Here's the questions. She doesn't know. He doesn't
Speaker 1: know that I'm.
Speaker 3: Moved in, right, No, he doesn't even know.
Speaker 1: Your Other reason, what's in Luke's mind's like, why haven't
Speaker 1: you told this guy that we're in the house together,
Speaker 1: that I moved in, And don't leave messages on the machine.
Speaker 1: If you want to talk to me, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, call my cell phone.
Speaker 3: Well, but you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 4: If he's going to get mad at her because he
Speaker 4: thinks that she's talking to him.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not mad at her, He's not. He's mad
Speaker 1: at Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He actually has heard because it's being delayed, the wedding's
Speaker 1: being delayed, and now that he's got to hear this
Speaker 1: guy's voice on the home machine, and now he feels
Speaker 1: like a sort of not a part really as big
Speaker 1: a part of her life anymore.
Speaker 2: In that moment, it showed, he showed he's got a
Speaker 2: little lack of trust. Still we're not at a one
Speaker 2: hundred percent yeah trust right, because he's like going on,
Speaker 2: like what's going on.
Speaker 3: And specifically with Christopher, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really bothered by at the at the
Speaker 4: moment of the Answering Machine message, he wouldn't even let
Speaker 4: Laurlai finish her sentence, like he just he heard a
Speaker 4: second of Christopher's voice and went immediately to you're back
Speaker 4: in contact with him? Why didn't you tell me? And
Speaker 4: she's saying I haven't even talked to him in a year.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't believe her.
Speaker 1: And I think the setup. I think the setup was wrong.
Speaker 1: I think it's a flaw in the scene. I think
Speaker 1: I think there needed to be a little better set
Speaker 1: up with the writing there, okay, because it seemed like
Speaker 1: he just sort of came in and heard and then
Speaker 1: it just got into this thing and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we skipped over a couple of steps here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little aggressive for his character, even
Speaker 2: though like I get it now, I did giggle a
Speaker 2: little when we're not fighting yet and then he goes off.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that it warranted such a
Speaker 2: blow up for me. I think that it was the
Speaker 2: reason it blew up was because there was unfinished business
Speaker 2: that they hadn't discussed. Yeah, and then I think it's
Speaker 2: stressful for me that the unfinished business is they needed
Speaker 2: to acknowledge trust and that they need to tell each
Speaker 2: other everything and knowing what I know, that's very good.
Speaker 1: But he wants to get out of this sort of
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's, you know, this sort of neutral
Speaker 1: zone that he's in right where she's not even she
Speaker 1: didn't even want to set a date for the wedding.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the problem.
Speaker 3: We know what the problem is.
Speaker 1: It's I know, because he doesn't think that it's a
Speaker 1: good enough excuse. Oh he doesn't. That's how he feels,
Speaker 1: and he and that's the trust issue. He feels like
Speaker 1: she's going to keep making excuses.
Speaker 3: It's going to be something that's fair.
Speaker 2: I never put myself in his position like that on
Speaker 2: it because for me, it totally makes sense, and it's
Speaker 2: why the ending of the episode is so awesome and
Speaker 2: RINGI at the same time, I just.
Speaker 1: Just think about how long he's been waiting, right, I
Speaker 1: get it. I mean it's been years and years and
Speaker 1: years and years and she still won't set a date.
Speaker 1: She still wants to not do it.
Speaker 3: Yet, Well, I get it.
Speaker 2: Right, I get why he's yeah, and he's being a
Speaker 2: very patient, loving fiance.
Speaker 1: So now he's having a time this at this moment,
Speaker 1: he's out of patience.
Speaker 8: The only reason why I think it's not fair though,
Speaker 8: is when Lorilia brings it up that Christopher will always
Speaker 8: be in her life whether they like it or not,
Speaker 8: and it kind of was foreshadowing in a sense what's
Speaker 8: coming of.
Speaker 7: He is the father of my daughter and.
Speaker 1: That's a very modern definition of father.
Speaker 4: At the same time an adult. So it's not like
Speaker 4: he's going to be in their life day in and
Speaker 4: day out.
Speaker 8: No, but he's not going away forever, like you know what,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, whether they're whether they are
Speaker 8: close or not, at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 8: still her dad and it's still you know, that's that's it.
Speaker 2: So and also college isn't forty like you still? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like she yes, she's an adult, but like she's a kid,
Speaker 2: she's a kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that I love so many things
Speaker 2: to talk about here, but one of the things is
Speaker 2: that we have this total drama going on while we
Speaker 2: still have the funniest moments between Jackson and Suki of
Speaker 2: all time, like.
Speaker 3: When he says was it what does he say?
Speaker 2: Like he says something like was it that I brought
Speaker 2: up the burgers and she's like, yeah it, And she
Speaker 2: has two of.
Speaker 3: Those where I'm like, I'm dying.
Speaker 8: And their drama is always so just like whatever, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like there's no drama between Suki
Speaker 8: and Jackson that's like groundbreaking.
Speaker 3: So it was.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just she had a couple of
Speaker 2: those and I'm just like, oh my god, I'm dying.
Speaker 1: Drama doesn't compare to the other drama.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's happening down the hall.
Speaker 2: What do you think of Luke saying we will have
Speaker 2: this fight later. It's rude to fight in front of
Speaker 2: other people's aggressive manners.
Speaker 1: I think it shows good breeding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's trying.
Speaker 1: He's just trying to assert himself as he's overcompensating because
Speaker 1: he feels a little castrated by the phone call and
Speaker 1: that Christopher feels like he can even leave a message
Speaker 1: on her machine. He feels like he's being cut out
Speaker 1: of that whole scene, you know, not scene, but out
Speaker 1: of her life a moment, in that moment, like there's
Speaker 1: a compartmentalization there in her life where where he just
Speaker 1: doesn't fit into that part. And and that's that's the
Speaker 1: reason for that tude. Is tued.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I actually was very happy that she goes
Speaker 2: over there right away and it gets resolved right away,
Speaker 2: and they're sort of better than ever. Although what I
Speaker 2: can't remember is with some of the over the top
Speaker 2: sort of we can't hide things. It's the only way
Speaker 2: it will work. I don't think it was so obvious
Speaker 2: to me when I watched it the first time as
Speaker 2: it is now. I actually have to say, I think
Speaker 2: the writing and the whole setup everything is brilliant.
Speaker 3: Like I think Season six is amazing.
Speaker 2: So I get we have maybe some flaws coming, but
Speaker 2: like so far, it's as good as any season we've
Speaker 2: had in my humble opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 7: I don't really agree, but I love the first half.
Speaker 4: And this is about the point where I start getting
Speaker 4: a little frustrated. I don't dislike it, but there it's frustrating. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I like, I'll still watch it, but it's not like
Speaker 4: I think. This season is not like episodes I'm going
Speaker 4: back to or like. Besides, the scene with Jess is
Speaker 4: not like a memorable, really big, big memorable moment for me,
Speaker 4: but I still enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have to see how we go along? Sorry Scott that.
Speaker 1: No, it's like I said, it's like the mac If
Speaker 1: you don't buy into the macro narratives, it's hard to
Speaker 1: enjoy it. You can still enjoy the episodes. They're still
Speaker 1: really well written. Yeah, but you know, tying all these
Speaker 1: loose ends together that you didn't sort of get on
Speaker 1: board within the first place and objected to back a
Speaker 1: season ago, and here they are, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really go along with this in
Speaker 1: the first place. This doesn't have a great deal of
Speaker 1: impact on me right now. But I know it's well acted,
Speaker 1: and I know it's well written.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and it's funny too. It's emotional. I cried.
Speaker 1: I laughed.
Speaker 2: I literally laughed a bunch during this episode and cried.
Speaker 1: I did not cry, Oh, I cried.
Speaker 11: I really.
Speaker 2: So before we get into April, let's just talk about
Speaker 2: we can talk.
Speaker 3: We can talk even though we're going a little out
Speaker 3: of order. Let's talk about Rory and the job. Just
Speaker 3: play that through that.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what's the next scene? We go?
Speaker 3: Story was the job?
Speaker 2: So That's why I'm saying, let's just talk through it
Speaker 2: right all in so, I like her persistence.
Speaker 3: I like her how she's organized.
Speaker 2: It's a little nuts, but I'm into it, and I
Speaker 2: am just happy.
Speaker 3: That I feel like she's back.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little conflicted on this scene because
Speaker 4: I was, like you said, I was happy to see
Speaker 4: that we had that glimpse of the old Rory, right
Speaker 4: that was, you know, the go getter, and she's gonna
Speaker 4: just go after what she wants and no one's gonna
Speaker 4: stop her.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, she was kind of.
Speaker 4: Annoying about Yeah, she's nuts. The squeaky baby voice was back,
Speaker 4: and she just was so frantic about it. If I
Speaker 4: was that that editor guy, I would be like, can
Speaker 4: we have security keep an eye on her because it's
Speaker 4: a little intense. So I don't know, but it was
Speaker 4: good to see that she's back on track and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of pursuing her dreams again and not
Speaker 4: not you know, down in the dumps and Mitcham says,
Speaker 4: I can't do it, So I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I was glad to see that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, is like, we didn't need all of this,
Speaker 1: Michig gosh, we just needed Rory to maybe maybe be
Speaker 1: a little stunned by the Mitcham comments and then just
Speaker 1: buck up. All I kept thinking was we could we
Speaker 1: missed so many episodes where she could have been.
Speaker 3: At Yale totally and all that.
Speaker 1: Great stuff with those Light and Death Brigade and and
Speaker 1: all of the logan and more. Mitcham.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So the one thing for me that I wish
Speaker 8: and again, I like, I like the way now we're
Speaker 8: transitioning back to normal, Rory. I wish there was like
Speaker 8: a scene or an episode between last week and this
Speaker 8: week that felt that was more of a buffer, because
Speaker 8: I feel like she it's like Jess's speech to her
Speaker 8: cure to everything, and I get it, but like I
Speaker 8: wish that there was something in between where now she's like, Okay,
Speaker 8: I think I'm read like you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: Like I.
Speaker 2: Just maybe it's just maybe it's just Jess, like maybe
Speaker 2: we just go you know what. Yeah, Jess, she was
Speaker 2: starting to head that direction, and then he pushed it
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 7: He really pushed it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I get it.
Speaker 1: No, I kind of I agree with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they're going to string us along like this, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, just milk us dry before you turn.
Speaker 8: I think it's because the job and the reuniting happened
Speaker 8: in one episode when like the whole separation took like
Speaker 8: eight you know, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 8: went through eight episodes of that, which, by the way,
Speaker 8: I'm happy, like I do not like and Laura lyon
Speaker 8: Rory you're not talking. But it was like, give us
Speaker 8: at least not even an episode, give us like a
Speaker 8: little scene in between of like her planning, like this
Speaker 8: is what I want to do.
Speaker 2: Now interesting, Nope, don't need it?
Speaker 5: Get it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So okay, so now, so good, good, good. All she'd
Speaker 2: got the job, she deserves the job. She's quite skilled.
Speaker 3: April.
Speaker 2: So here's my one flag on this episode. When we
Speaker 2: get to the April scene. So we're in the diner
Speaker 2: and we obviously see the pink bike or the pink
Speaker 2: helmet pull up and the bike flops over and we
Speaker 2: see it through the window. The part that confused me
Speaker 2: is like, why was Luke making mistakes like that doesn't
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It's not like he didn't I
Speaker 2: don't get it. Why was he like forgetting her onions
Speaker 2: and why was the burger not done right?
Speaker 3: Like I didn't need it. He's busy.
Speaker 8: I think he was from the whole thing with Christopher.
Speaker 8: That's how I took it like he was just yeah,
Speaker 8: could be he was just not up to his Yeah
Speaker 8: he wasn't.
Speaker 7: Yeah he was distracted thinking about something else.
Speaker 2: That's how I kind of was just like, I don't
Speaker 2: I didn't need him making mistakes.
Speaker 1: But what and well maybe he was up all night,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Right? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you all, what do you all think of
Speaker 2: April when she comes on in with the craziest helmet
Speaker 2: of all?
Speaker 3: I just love that.
Speaker 7: She's just like, hey, can I get three pieces of
Speaker 7: your hair?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 7: It was just so casual.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I like her.
Speaker 8: It's just she doesn't even care, like who like she
Speaker 8: she's lived without a father.
Speaker 3: For so long.
Speaker 7: She's like, I'm just doing a school project.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I thought it was I like her.
Speaker 4: She was honorable in her helmet. She's like, well, if
Speaker 4: you follow, you might break your teeth, and like.
Speaker 3: She just yet we get her character really quick. I was.
Speaker 2: I'm into that because I like her April. I obviously
Speaker 2: like Vanessa, but I like April.
Speaker 1: So name a better introduction to a character? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in this entire piece, I mean this, it was there's
Speaker 1: April in her helmet and it was hysterical and she's
Speaker 1: delightful totally. I think it's.
Speaker 2: Important to acknowledge the Moranos sisters for a second, because
Speaker 2: they are really talented, and like, I can't wait till
Speaker 2: we talked to Vanessa because I want to know what
Speaker 2: it's been like for her then having people react to
Speaker 2: the character the way they did, and now that's not
Speaker 2: an easy character to be and also so young, and
Speaker 2: both Laura and Vanessa Morano are like really really talented actress,
Speaker 2: actresses even as kids. Yeah, to me, she pulls off
Speaker 2: the character, Like I find it to be totally believable,
Speaker 2: the whole quirky of her, all of it, all the
Speaker 2: way through the Science Fair and just the way she is.
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it comes very easily to her
Speaker 2: to play April.
Speaker 1: Whise whise beyond her years, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that whole the whole dialogue that she had
Speaker 4: about the Science Fair, like that was a long stretch
Speaker 4: of dialogue and she nailed it, Like I obviously I
Speaker 4: don't know how many takes it took, but she was brilliant.
Speaker 2: I thought she was great, even down to the spaghetti bit,
Speaker 2: like she's obviously a genius, but she's also a kid,
Speaker 2: and you get everything you need to know.
Speaker 3: Also quick shout out.
Speaker 2: If you want to be impressed, go on TikTok and
Speaker 2: look at the maranos h Halloween costume from this year.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good. It's so Scott.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen Princess Diaries, but
Speaker 2: in Princess Diaries, Anne what's her name? Anne, Hathaway and Hathaway,
Speaker 2: So she's like, not princessy, I don't want to say,
Speaker 2: she's kind of like a scrappy kid. And then they
Speaker 2: make her over into the Princess of Genovia or whatever
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: So the Morano sisters played both parts.
Speaker 2: One of them is like the scrappy before and then
Speaker 2: it turns and it's I couldn't even tell which Morano
Speaker 2: was witch, and then she's the princess and they look
Speaker 2: like twins.
Speaker 3: Almost Vanessa was before and Laura was after. Right, it
Speaker 3: couldn't even tell. I can't even tell, and I know them.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 7: It was so good.
Speaker 2: So anyway, and I look, I also don't know if
Speaker 2: I have an affinity for the character now, because I
Speaker 2: do know the girls, so it's like I don't know.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I don't hate April at all.
Speaker 1: Ething. I think it was one of the best scenes
Speaker 1: I did in the whole six seasons so far, was
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. So let's just play it through, right, because.
Speaker 1: Somebody really gave Luke some dimension, and you know, finally
Speaker 1: there's there's a little more development than just a photo
Speaker 1: and a crew cut haircut, a high school photo and
Speaker 1: a couple of things about being under the bleachers. And
Speaker 1: it's my dad's diner. I mean, like, give me something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's meat. It's like a lot of meat.
Speaker 2: So he's getting this like information and trying to process
Speaker 2: it while in the diner. And this little girl is there,
Speaker 2: I mean, she's a kid, she's like, what twelve?
Speaker 3: What does she say she is? She's twelve?
Speaker 2: Because he hasn't seen her mom in twelve years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then we and then I love that he goes to
Speaker 2: the science fair and there's the science I mean, the
Speaker 2: whole science.
Speaker 3: Fair was so like legit and well done.
Speaker 2: And that's the scene where I'm like, oh, like the
Speaker 2: way you were breathing and the whole thing. I'm like
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is actually like what a guy
Speaker 2: like Luke would experience.
Speaker 3: And he's like, do I stay, Like, should we go
Speaker 3: get some ice cream?
Speaker 2: Like he and how he says I didn't know, and
Speaker 2: how important that was for him to say I didn't know,
Speaker 2: And she says, I know you didn't know.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, ah, so you could tell.
Speaker 8: He like also cared because she didn't win, and like
Speaker 8: she was just sitting by herself and like, you know,
Speaker 8: she's just like reading a book. I felt bad for her,
Speaker 8: and I think Luke did in that moment, Like he
Speaker 8: doesn't know this kid, but now he has an attachment
Speaker 8: he feels for her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, I'm sorry you didn't win. I feel
Speaker 4: like it's my fault.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know Scott what he Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean when he's just nice seeing him developed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's nice seeing him doing something else with
Speaker 1: somebody new and it's his daughter, and it's a nice
Speaker 1: piece of acting that you're asked to do because it's
Speaker 1: all you know, it's all emotional.
Speaker 8: And it's different from like, you know, I think he
Speaker 8: grew Rory grew up with Luke, but this is very different.
Speaker 8: Like Luke wasn't he was involved in Rory's life, but
Speaker 8: I don't think to the extent.
Speaker 1: We never see any of that.
Speaker 8: We never see any of that. And really he's just
Speaker 8: the guy in town who she grew up with, she loves.
Speaker 8: He's basically her family. But this is a little different.
Speaker 7: It's nice to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, So I love those scenes.
Speaker 3: I love those I did too, and I get it.
Speaker 1: I was shocked and delighted by those scenes. I really was.
Speaker 1: I forgot them, and I was just like all this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were great. Well I think I think Vanessa and
Speaker 1: I are good together. You know, it really worked. The
Speaker 1: chemistry really works.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's now talk about Richard coming home and realizing you.
Speaker 1: Know what, let me let me say something. Sorry Aliah, sorry,
Speaker 1: but Dondy, how old Vanessa was that age when we
Speaker 1: filmed it? I think so, maybe a bit older.
Speaker 7: I don't amaze She and her and I are the
Speaker 7: same age.
Speaker 8: Okay, so so she is Vanessa's thirty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the same age. So that was a yeah
Speaker 3: she was twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So imagine being twelve years old and coming
Speaker 1: onto that set as mature as that show was at
Speaker 1: that point. And see, you know, almost midway into season six,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't miss a beat and she stands there
Speaker 1: and she delivers the dialogue and she drives, helps drive
Speaker 1: that scene, and she's fantastic and she knows her job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she knows what her job is at that tender age.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that amazed me so much. It's like
Speaker 1: I didn't work with another guest star that was as
Speaker 1: prepared from first take on. She was just nailing, nailing, nailing,
Speaker 1: nailing everything. It was amazing. So you trust an actor
Speaker 1: like that, you know, to come in and know what
Speaker 1: their job is and at twelve years old, very very impressed.
Speaker 1: I was so impressed with her me too.
Speaker 2: And isn't that a shout out to the casting person
Speaker 2: because I feel like whoever casts this show really knew
Speaker 2: what they were doing, because you get that, I mean,
Speaker 2: and you can go.
Speaker 1: Through it dared Milo like Melissa, but also also, mind you,
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be on that show. So every agent
Speaker 1: in town one of their clients on that show, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if it reached Seinfeld proportions as a
Speaker 1: launching pad for people, but it kind of did.
Speaker 7: It did. There's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you got a nice guest spot
Speaker 1: on Gilmore, you had some nice tape for yourself that
Speaker 1: was going to be get that was going to get
Speaker 1: you more work.
Speaker 2: Don't you think it's kind of like if you can
Speaker 2: do Gilmore Girls, or if you can do West Wing
Speaker 2: at that time, you can really do a lot, like
Speaker 2: almost anything.
Speaker 1: Right, that's a real proving ground. Yeah, for sure, for sure, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So now let's go Oh sorry, Susanka,
Speaker 4: Oh no, I just was going to make a quick comment.
Speaker 4: In that role, you had to cast a child that
Speaker 4: could hold her own with adults because there's not any
Speaker 4: other children in the scenes with her, and so you
Speaker 4: can't cast someone who's too childlike because that's not going
Speaker 4: to fit the role. So to the comment about the casting,
Speaker 4: it was they did a great job.
Speaker 8: So I just realized, like there is no one close
Speaker 8: to her age, Like I just realized that, like she
Speaker 8: really is the only kid.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, only Dean's sister. From time to she didn't.
Speaker 7: Even have that many lines.
Speaker 3: Like, nothing like this.
Speaker 2: She had a few, you know, she had a few
Speaker 2: important things, but nothing like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Richard and a tough job walking into
Speaker 1: the diner with all that activity.
Speaker 2: That gear the bike has to fall over at the
Speaker 2: right moment. And so okay, So Richard and Emily and
Speaker 2: ultimately Lorlai. So Richard's like, where is Emily? Something isn't right,
Speaker 2: calls Laura Lia frantic. All of it I am liking.
Speaker 2: And Laura's getting the bits and pieces of like, okay,
Speaker 2: Rory's moved out, she's having job interviews, she's cia putting
Speaker 2: it together. I like that Laura called her mom and said,
Speaker 2: you need to call me back, Like dad's frantic.
Speaker 3: I need to know you're okay. I like all that.
Speaker 3: So and that Emily does.
Speaker 1: That's what family does, even if they're estranged or strained
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's what family does.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Emily does call her back, and that's how
Speaker 2: we end up on the plane, and uh, that seems amazing.
Speaker 7: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a culmination of emily frustration. And
Speaker 1: you just wondered, and I have questioned it throughout the
Speaker 1: episodes that we've been doing, when is she going to pop?
Speaker 1: When is she going to tell her own daughter off?
Speaker 1: And she did it, And what a speech and a speech.
Speaker 2: What a great way for Lorlai as she's walking down
Speaker 2: the stairs to say, I can't remember the exact line.
Speaker 3: Lost me and oh my god, see it makes me
Speaker 3: like I know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was full tears, full tears from the
Speaker 2: whole thing because I even though Emily did a lot
Speaker 2: of things wrong, I feel for her because she just
Speaker 2: wants to be connected to these people so badly and
Speaker 2: so the way she thinks it's her fault, and like
Speaker 2: how hurt she is by the way Rory spoke to her,
Speaker 2: and just how much she just wants connection with these people.
Speaker 3: It's like all she wants and she's so sad.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a great speech. It was it
Speaker 1: was one of Emily's fine It was maybe her finest moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a real it was a real
Speaker 1: climax for Emily. You know, finally she got to say
Speaker 1: all the things we've all been thinking and feeling as
Speaker 1: regards you know, their relationship and how she's been treated,
Speaker 1: even though you know, some a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: root for and there's plenty of opportunity not to root
Speaker 1: for right right him beings with feelings, and she felt
Speaker 1: like she screwed up Laura and she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: screw up Rory, and she feels like it's just a
Speaker 1: total screw up. And that's as low as you can feel.
Speaker 1: So now she's buying a private jet. Poor woman.
Speaker 2: I also love Lauren Laura Lauren because she doesn't have
Speaker 2: a lot of dialogue, but she portrays so much.
Speaker 3: I just listening.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like she really like took the moment.
Speaker 8: Like usually she like makes a joke to Emily and
Speaker 8: says something like and this time she just didn't say
Speaker 8: anything and let her speak, And I think that was
Speaker 8: really important.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It's it's an ongoing theme about you know, coming full circle.
Speaker 4: And so when when Rory first moved into their house
Speaker 4: and we talked about how you know, this was their
Speaker 4: chance for the do over, like they everything went wrong
Speaker 4: with Laurel. I so now they're going to raise Rory
Speaker 4: and turn Rory into what they wanted to be. But
Speaker 4: now we see how that turns out. Rory runs away
Speaker 4: just like.
Speaker 3: Laurel I didn't.
Speaker 4: And so it like it really emphasizes, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of the whole full circle thing.
Speaker 2: I think they deep down all come from a place
Speaker 2: of love.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, there's just a lot of love between all.
Speaker 2: Of these people, right, all right, family, let's talk about
Speaker 2: the reunion.
Speaker 3: The reunion of Rory and Lorelai, which I get we're.
Speaker 1: Left field, hm hmm.
Speaker 2: Like for me, I was so ready for it that
Speaker 2: it was like I get it. It was a little
Speaker 2: easy and I was all about.
Speaker 3: It, like just make this easy on me. But I
Speaker 3: don't know, you guys, say what you think.
Speaker 7: I just love that it happened.
Speaker 8: I like that the phone call happened because she got
Speaker 8: a job and she's going back to Yale. I think
Speaker 8: it was kind of the perfect way to do it,
Speaker 8: because who else would you call when you get a job,
Speaker 8: Like you'd call your mom or you call your dad.
Speaker 8: In that sense, it's Laurel I and you want to
Speaker 8: share that exciting news with them. And then obviously with
Speaker 8: that comes she's going back to Yale. And I don't know,
Speaker 8: I just I think of like when I got like
Speaker 8: a job and I called my mom, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, Like, it just makes me think of those moments.
Speaker 4: And she doesn't have Logan anymore, so she's not going
Speaker 4: to call Logan, so that's kind of the default is,
Speaker 4: you know, to call Laura I.
Speaker 7: I don't think she would call Lorelei over Logan first too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think, Look, I love Logan, but I
Speaker 2: think because they were having a break or not, we'll
Speaker 2: find out, it was easier for her to get the
Speaker 2: job call. All of this had to happen the way
Speaker 2: it happened because I think Logan was sort of because
Speaker 2: he was so team Rory, it was holding her back.
Speaker 3: It was like do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now that they're having a riff, it's like
Speaker 2: she picked herself up and got.
Speaker 3: Her bleep together.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did notice one silly thing after the whole that
Speaker 4: whole opening scene where Laurel Eyes got her arms stuck
Speaker 4: in the door because the chain is latched. But then
Speaker 4: when Rory returns and Laurel I runs out to meet her,
Speaker 4: there was no chain on the door, so he eagleized.
Speaker 3: It's really but I liked that.
Speaker 4: I liked the hug on the front lawn and how
Speaker 4: the camera did a.
Speaker 3: Full three six. I like that, Yeah, I liked it all.
Speaker 2: I like how it's like sometimes with a mom, you
Speaker 2: don't need them to talk about it anymore, just be
Speaker 2: done and forgive and run out with a big hug
Speaker 2: like that. And so for me it played out like perfectly,
Speaker 2: although I understand it was a little quick, it was
Speaker 2: a little easy.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 7: I liked it me too.
Speaker 1: Reunion. The only the only thing they could have made
Speaker 1: that reunion better is is Rory breaks away from the hug,
Speaker 1: opens up the trunk and says, mom, look what I've got.
Speaker 3: Body in there. Then it becomes a whole spin off,
Speaker 3: equally popular, equally popular.
Speaker 1: What's that, Benburg?
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna fiction now? As always with Gilmour girls, you.
Speaker 2: Think you've reached the moment and then that you haven't.
Speaker 2: So she comes into the diner and she's so happy,
Speaker 2: grabbing the doughnuts, the whole thing.
Speaker 3: We can get married now, and it's.
Speaker 8: Like it's so, it's so, I mean obviously Amy and
Speaker 8: like Amy did this on purpose, but like the second
Speaker 8: that Rory reunites with Lorelei, now Luke has this like
Speaker 8: it's just it's never the perfect fairy tale.
Speaker 2: So can I throw something out? And this is something
Speaker 2: that Suzanne said a few couple of weeks ago. And
Speaker 2: there's the theories that the Palladinos through season six. I
Speaker 2: don't think so it may not all be perfect wrote
Speaker 2: kind of some crappy crap because they weren't negotiating their
Speaker 2: deal and they weren't going to have their deal for
Speaker 2: season seven.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. I might be misconstruing it a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't know that that was necessarily happening this early
Speaker 4: in seasons. Okay, I think it was definitely happening in
Speaker 4: the last episode because for.
Speaker 2: Me, I think it's brilliant. I think the I love
Speaker 2: the writing. I think it's as funny as ever.
Speaker 3: I like it all.
Speaker 2: But I the cleverness of the sort of this when
Speaker 2: and the you know, like, to me, that just keeps
Speaker 2: me hooked.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: It's also hard because, like we're on season six.
Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of shows, especially now, they
Speaker 8: don't get up to six seasons. But at this point
Speaker 8: you kind of start losing your audience and so you
Speaker 8: needed that twist to like keep coming back. Like if
Speaker 8: you think, like, oh, it's all you know, happy go lucky.
Speaker 8: They're back together. It's not like there is a whole
Speaker 8: other storyline coming for me.
Speaker 2: April isn't cousin Oliver. If you get the reference, it's
Speaker 2: like she's not She's not cousin Oliver. Like she that's
Speaker 2: I'm into it.
Speaker 1: I think. I think the episode on the whole was
Speaker 1: beautifully written, beautifully directed, beautifully acted. Did it feel like
Speaker 1: vintage Gilmore girls? Mmmm?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 1: Did it? I mean vintage? Right? It's a new It's
Speaker 1: like kind of a new iteration. Right, it's a new show.
Speaker 1: It feels different, it sounds different, but still it's an
Speaker 1: excellent show. It's hitting on all cylinders. So all right,
Speaker 1: so what are we giving it? Those two favorite lines? Uh, Tara,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite line?
Speaker 7: I said my earlier it was the fin line.
Speaker 1: Oh, then you're you're not qualified to be in this round.
Speaker 1: If you said it, really, you will get a letter
Speaker 1: from the committee, Susan, who is now head of that committee.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have two favorite lines, but probably my backe
Speaker 4: favorite line is in the very beginning, and.
Speaker 1: What am I to do with these people?
Speaker 3: I know they don't follow.
Speaker 4: Them a while, right, the very opening, when they're going
Speaker 4: upstairs after all the construction is finished, and Luke says,
Speaker 4: close your eyes. Laureliz says, I'm not scared of it anymore.
Speaker 2: I still and I I apologize that I know there's two,
Speaker 2: but for me when he says there's the big dramatic fight,
Speaker 2: and then Jackson's like.
Speaker 3: Was it my meet? Reb? It was?
Speaker 2: And then there's another same kind of gist on the
Speaker 2: another one.
Speaker 3: There, and I'm just like, it was so funny.
Speaker 2: There's a nice moment between Michelle and Laura Lai that
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about too with the book. It was
Speaker 2: sort of like nothing, but he's putting the books away
Speaker 2: and that's how you learn that they called for the job.
Speaker 2: Reference but it was not uber memorable, but yet enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. My favorite line was every single line
Speaker 1: from Emily's private plane. Yeah, model, Yeah, all right, what
Speaker 1: are we giving it? Tara? Are you going to give it?
Speaker 1: And what's your measuring stick?
Speaker 8: My measuring measuring stick is going to be I'm going
Speaker 8: to give it nine DNA tests.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Ten of those leather bound giant book that Rory was
Speaker 2: carrying around the whole time. Ten of those ten heavy
Speaker 2: leather bound binders, whatever that was.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give it eight Grandma's bedroom sets.
Speaker 1: A lot of truths, ton of trubs. I was gonna
Speaker 1: give it. I think it's for me. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a nine point five M. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: measuring stick is. Nine point five hair follicles yanked out
Speaker 1: of his head. All right, that's gonna wrap it up, everybody.
Speaker 1: Next episode, Season six, episode ten, he's slipping the bread
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