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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, one

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Speaker 1: of them productions. iHeartRadio, I heart media, I heart podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Let me catch my breath, he everybody. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: a Columbus Galaxy con in Columbus, Ohio, December second and third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So everybody, come on out. Let's do

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Speaker 1: a Saul thing, Let's do a Gilmore thing, and just celebrate.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's December two and three, Columbus, Ohio, Columbus

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Speaker 1: Galaxy con. Hope to see everybody out there. The Prodigal

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Speaker 1: Daughter returns.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes she six.

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Speaker 1: Episode nine and return she did. And we have our

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Speaker 1: trepred crew Susanne French, the newly minted Queen of the airwaves,

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Speaker 1: is here. The valuable player Amy Sugarman.

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Speaker 2: Not if you read the comments, but that's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Then of the ball she's a manager of the ball club.

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Speaker 1: She's she's got a permanent she's a permanent fixture. And

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Speaker 1: yours truly, uh and what did everybody? Oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: hang on, do we have comments? Yes, we have one note.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reappearing December second and third in Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio at Columbus Galaxy Con. So come on down. Just

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Speaker 1: got back from Michigan MotorCity Comic Con, and what a blast.

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Speaker 1: Love Michigan, Love you people, love that con. Fantastic Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Lots of trees, lots of lakes, loving it. Love it Columbus,

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Speaker 1: and I'm returning to Columbus. I in Columbus from eighty

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Speaker 3: Of Columbus is cool like Ohio's cool.

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Speaker 1: They say. They say Columbus is extraordinarily different from when

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Speaker 3: Really, I wonder if that means.

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Speaker 1: It's really built up now.

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Speaker 3: Oh better, so bigger and better.

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Speaker 1: It's bigger and better than ever. And I can't wait

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Speaker 3: Anyway, what do you think of this episode?

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Speaker 1: I think we better synopsize first. Okay, okay, so I

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Speaker 3: I get it, I may disagree with all of you.

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Speaker 1: We're hoping you do.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: This episode is season six, episode nine, The Prodigal Daughter Returns.

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Speaker 4: It aired on November fifteenth, two thousand and five. A

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Speaker 4: surprise phone call from Christopher brings up issues of trust

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Speaker 4: and after months of estrangement, Lorlai and Rory make their

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I will comment on and thank

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Speaker 1: you Suzanne. That was spectacular.

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Speaker 2: It really was.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was extraordinarily well written and directed.

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Speaker 3: Loved cried multiple times you did.

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Speaker 2: Cried full tears, plain scene, full tears, reunited Lower Lion Rory,

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Speaker 2: Did so well portraying what someone would go through realizing

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Speaker 1: My favorite season was when she came in and introduced

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Speaker 3: I don't hate April. You know, there's like me too.

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Speaker 4: Like April's not the problem. It's Luke's reaction to April movie.

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Speaker 2: The house looked beautiful. Luke had made the house look amazing.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was hysterical. That was so gnarly bad. It

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at I love Grandma Chic. I'm all

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Speaker 3: Totally the wrong size, Like it was just that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, It's quite funny.

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Speaker 2: Rory and the two of them fighting is pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's nah, it was cringey. It's cringey to me.

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Speaker 3: Really, I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: It's the I disliked that part of this whole series

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like Lane's awkwardness is what made Laura

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Speaker 3: Calm yourselves. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.

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Speaker 3: I know, sorry, and then you smack us down before

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Speaker 1: That scene was beneath the show. That was one scene

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like, did you need three more minutes

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Speaker 2: Actually, you're right, I would have taken more, Melissa, like

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Speaker 3: So let's just talk about it all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let me try to justify Luke's reaction from

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Speaker 3: Well, and it was the cause of their breakup.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's it's right, it's a it's a sensitive And

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Speaker 1: leave a message for Laurel? I that he knows I

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Speaker 3: Moved in, right, No, he doesn't even know.

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Speaker 1: Your Other reason, what's in Luke's mind's like, why haven't

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Speaker 1: If you want to talk to me, you know, I

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Speaker 3: Well, but you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 4: If he's going to get mad at her because he

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Speaker 1: He actually has heard because it's being delayed, the wedding's

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00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: being delayed, and now that he's got to hear this

444
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: guy's voice on the home machine, and now he feels

445
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: like a sort of not a part really as big

446
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: a part of her life anymore.

447
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: In that moment, it showed, he showed he's got a

448
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: little lack of trust. Still we're not at a one

449
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: hundred percent yeah trust right, because he's like going on,

450
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: like what's going on.

451
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 3: And specifically with Christopher, Yeah, I think so.

452
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really bothered by at the at the

453
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: moment of the Answering Machine message, he wouldn't even let

454
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: Laurlai finish her sentence, like he just he heard a

455
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: second of Christopher's voice and went immediately to you're back

456
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 4: in contact with him? Why didn't you tell me? And

457
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: she's saying I haven't even talked to him in a year.

458
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't believe her.

459
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: And I think the setup. I think the setup was wrong.

460
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a flaw in the scene. I think

461
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: I think there needed to be a little better set

462
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: up with the writing there, okay, because it seemed like

463
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: he just sort of came in and heard and then

464
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: it just got into this thing and I was like, oh,

465
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we skipped over a couple of steps here.

466
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

467
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little aggressive for his character, even

468
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: though like I get it now, I did giggle a

469
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: little when we're not fighting yet and then he goes off.

470
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that it warranted such a

471
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: blow up for me. I think that it was the

472
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: reason it blew up was because there was unfinished business

473
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: that they hadn't discussed. Yeah, and then I think it's

474
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: stressful for me that the unfinished business is they needed

475
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: to acknowledge trust and that they need to tell each

476
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: other everything and knowing what I know, that's very good.

477
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: But he wants to get out of this sort of

478
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's, you know, this sort of neutral

479
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: zone that he's in right where she's not even she

480
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't even want to set a date for the wedding.

481
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the problem.

482
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: We know what the problem is.

483
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: It's I know, because he doesn't think that it's a

484
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: good enough excuse. Oh he doesn't. That's how he feels,

485
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: and he and that's the trust issue. He feels like

486
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: she's going to keep making excuses.

487
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: It's going to be something that's fair.

488
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: I never put myself in his position like that on

489
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: it because for me, it totally makes sense, and it's

490
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: why the ending of the episode is so awesome and

491
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: RINGI at the same time, I just.

492
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: Just think about how long he's been waiting, right, I

493
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: get it. I mean it's been years and years and

494
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: years and years and she still won't set a date.

495
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: She still wants to not do it.

496
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Yet, Well, I get it.

497
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: Right, I get why he's yeah, and he's being a

498
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: very patient, loving fiance.

499
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: So now he's having a time this at this moment,

500
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: he's out of patience.

501
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 8: The only reason why I think it's not fair though,

502
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 8: is when Lorilia brings it up that Christopher will always

503
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 8: be in her life whether they like it or not,

504
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 8: and it kind of was foreshadowing in a sense what's

505
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 8: coming of.

506
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 7: He is the father of my daughter and.

507
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: That's a very modern definition of father.

508
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: At the same time an adult. So it's not like

509
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: he's going to be in their life day in and

510
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 4: day out.

511
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 8: No, but he's not going away forever, like you know what,

512
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, whether they're whether they are

513
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 8: close or not, at the end of the day, it's

514
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 8: still her dad and it's still you know, that's that's it.

515
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: So and also college isn't forty like you still? Yeah,

516
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: like she yes, she's an adult, but like she's a kid,

517
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: she's a kid.

518
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

519
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: I think the thing that I love so many things

520
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: to talk about here, but one of the things is

521
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: that we have this total drama going on while we

522
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: still have the funniest moments between Jackson and Suki of

523
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: all time, like.

524
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: When he says was it what does he say?

525
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: Like he says something like was it that I brought

526
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: up the burgers and she's like, yeah it, And she

527
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: has two of.

528
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: Those where I'm like, I'm dying.

529
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 8: And their drama is always so just like whatever, you

530
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like there's no drama between Suki

531
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 8: and Jackson that's like groundbreaking.

532
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: So it was.

533
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just she had a couple of

534
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: those and I'm just like, oh my god, I'm dying.

535
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: Drama doesn't compare to the other drama.

536
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's happening down the hall.

537
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: What do you think of Luke saying we will have

538
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: this fight later. It's rude to fight in front of

539
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: other people's aggressive manners.

540
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I think it shows good breeding.

541
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's trying.

542
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: He's just trying to assert himself as he's overcompensating because

543
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: he feels a little castrated by the phone call and

544
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: that Christopher feels like he can even leave a message

545
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: on her machine. He feels like he's being cut out

546
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: of that whole scene, you know, not scene, but out

547
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: of her life a moment, in that moment, like there's

548
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: a compartmentalization there in her life where where he just

549
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: doesn't fit into that part. And and that's that's the

550
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: reason for that tude. Is tued.

551
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I actually was very happy that she goes

552
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: over there right away and it gets resolved right away,

553
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: and they're sort of better than ever. Although what I

554
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: can't remember is with some of the over the top

555
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: sort of we can't hide things. It's the only way

556
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: it will work. I don't think it was so obvious

557
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: to me when I watched it the first time as

558
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: it is now. I actually have to say, I think

559
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: the writing and the whole setup everything is brilliant.

560
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: Like I think Season six is amazing.

561
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: So I get we have maybe some flaws coming, but

562
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: like so far, it's as good as any season we've

563
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: had in my humble opinion.

564
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that.

565
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 7: I don't really agree, but I love the first half.

566
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: And this is about the point where I start getting

567
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: a little frustrated. I don't dislike it, but there it's frustrating. Yeah,

568
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: I like, I'll still watch it, but it's not like

569
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: I think. This season is not like episodes I'm going

570
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: back to or like. Besides, the scene with Jess is

571
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: not like a memorable, really big, big memorable moment for me,

572
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: but I still enjoy it.

573
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know.

574
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: I have to see how we go along? Sorry Scott that.

575
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: No, it's like I said, it's like the mac If

576
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: you don't buy into the macro narratives, it's hard to

577
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: enjoy it. You can still enjoy the episodes. They're still

578
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: really well written. Yeah, but you know, tying all these

579
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: loose ends together that you didn't sort of get on

580
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: board within the first place and objected to back a

581
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: season ago, and here they are, and it's like, Okay,

582
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really go along with this in

583
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: the first place. This doesn't have a great deal of

584
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: impact on me right now. But I know it's well acted,

585
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: and I know it's well written.

586
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and it's funny too. It's emotional. I cried.

587
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I laughed.

588
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: I literally laughed a bunch during this episode and cried.

589
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: I did not cry, Oh, I cried.

590
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 11: I really.

591
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: So before we get into April, let's just talk about

592
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: we can talk.

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: We can talk even though we're going a little out

594
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: of order. Let's talk about Rory and the job. Just

595
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: play that through that.

596
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what's the next scene? We go?

597
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: Story was the job?

598
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: So That's why I'm saying, let's just talk through it

599
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: right all in so, I like her persistence.

600
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I like her how she's organized.

601
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: It's a little nuts, but I'm into it, and I

602
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: am just happy.

603
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: That I feel like she's back.

604
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 10: Yeah.

605
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little conflicted on this scene because

606
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: I was, like you said, I was happy to see

607
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: that we had that glimpse of the old Rory, right

608
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: that was, you know, the go getter, and she's gonna

609
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: just go after what she wants and no one's gonna

610
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: stop her.

611
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: But at the same time, she was kind of.

612
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: Annoying about Yeah, she's nuts. The squeaky baby voice was back,

613
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 4: and she just was so frantic about it. If I

614
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: was that that editor guy, I would be like, can

615
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: we have security keep an eye on her because it's

616
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: a little intense. So I don't know, but it was

617
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: good to see that she's back on track and uh,

618
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, kind of pursuing her dreams again and not

619
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: not you know, down in the dumps and Mitcham says,

620
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 4: I can't do it, So I can't do it.

621
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: I was glad to see that.

622
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

623
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, is like, we didn't need all of this,

624
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Michig gosh, we just needed Rory to maybe maybe be

625
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: a little stunned by the Mitcham comments and then just

626
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: buck up. All I kept thinking was we could we

627
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: missed so many episodes where she could have been.

628
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: At Yale totally and all that.

629
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Great stuff with those Light and Death Brigade and and

630
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: all of the logan and more. Mitcham.

631
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, So the one thing for me that I wish

632
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 8: and again, I like, I like the way now we're

633
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 8: transitioning back to normal, Rory. I wish there was like

634
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 8: a scene or an episode between last week and this

635
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 8: week that felt that was more of a buffer, because

636
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 8: I feel like she it's like Jess's speech to her

637
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 8: cure to everything, and I get it, but like I

638
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 8: wish that there was something in between where now she's like, Okay,

639
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 8: I think I'm read like you know what I mean,

640
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 8: Like I.

641
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: Just maybe it's just maybe it's just Jess, like maybe

642
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: we just go you know what. Yeah, Jess, she was

643
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: starting to head that direction, and then he pushed it

644
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: over there.

645
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: He really pushed it.

646
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 9: Yeah.

647
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 7: No, I get it.

648
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: No, I kind of I agree with you. I mean,

649
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: if they're going to string us along like this, yeah,

650
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, just milk us dry before you turn.

651
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 8: I think it's because the job and the reuniting happened

652
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 8: in one episode when like the whole separation took like

653
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 8: eight you know, you know what I mean, Like we

654
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 8: went through eight episodes of that, which, by the way,

655
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 8: I'm happy, like I do not like and Laura lyon

656
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 8: Rory you're not talking. But it was like, give us

657
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 8: at least not even an episode, give us like a

658
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 8: little scene in between of like her planning, like this

659
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 8: is what I want to do.

660
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Now interesting, Nope, don't need it?

661
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: Get it?

662
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

663
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: So okay, so now, so good, good, good. All she'd

664
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: got the job, she deserves the job. She's quite skilled.

665
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Speaker 3: April.

666
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Speaker 2: So here's my one flag on this episode. When we

667
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: get to the April scene. So we're in the diner

668
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: and we obviously see the pink bike or the pink

669
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: helmet pull up and the bike flops over and we

670
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: see it through the window. The part that confused me

671
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: is like, why was Luke making mistakes like that doesn't

672
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It's not like he didn't I

673
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: don't get it. Why was he like forgetting her onions

674
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: and why was the burger not done right?

675
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: Like I didn't need it. He's busy.

676
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 8: I think he was from the whole thing with Christopher.

677
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Speaker 8: That's how I took it like he was just yeah,

678
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 8: could be he was just not up to his Yeah

679
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 8: he wasn't.

680
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 7: Yeah he was distracted thinking about something else.

681
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Speaker 2: That's how I kind of was just like, I don't

682
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: I didn't need him making mistakes.

683
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: But what and well maybe he was up all night,

684
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

685
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Speaker 3: Right? You know what I mean?

686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so you all, what do you all think of

687
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: April when she comes on in with the craziest helmet

688
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: of all?

689
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: I just love that.

690
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 7: She's just like, hey, can I get three pieces of

691
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 7: your hair?

692
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: Like?

693
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 7: It was just so casual.

694
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: I think that's why I like her.

695
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 8: It's just she doesn't even care, like who like she

696
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 8: she's lived without a father.

697
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: For so long.

698
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 7: She's like, I'm just doing a school project.

699
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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I thought it was I like her.

700
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: She was honorable in her helmet. She's like, well, if

701
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: you follow, you might break your teeth, and like.

702
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: She just yet we get her character really quick. I was.

703
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm into that because I like her April. I obviously

704
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: like Vanessa, but I like April.

705
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Speaker 1: So name a better introduction to a character? Oh yeah,

706
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: in this entire piece, I mean this, it was there's

707
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: April in her helmet and it was hysterical and she's

708
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: delightful totally. I think it's.

709
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Speaker 2: Important to acknowledge the Moranos sisters for a second, because

710
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: they are really talented, and like, I can't wait till

711
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Speaker 2: we talked to Vanessa because I want to know what

712
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: it's been like for her then having people react to

713
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: the character the way they did, and now that's not

714
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: an easy character to be and also so young, and

715
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: both Laura and Vanessa Morano are like really really talented actress,

716
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Speaker 2: actresses even as kids. Yeah, to me, she pulls off

717
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: the character, Like I find it to be totally believable,

718
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: the whole quirky of her, all of it, all the

719
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: way through the Science Fair and just the way she is.

720
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Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it comes very easily to her

721
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Speaker 2: to play April.

722
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Speaker 1: Whise whise beyond her years, you know.

723
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that whole the whole dialogue that she had

724
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: about the Science Fair, like that was a long stretch

725
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Speaker 4: of dialogue and she nailed it, Like I obviously I

726
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: don't know how many takes it took, but she was brilliant.

727
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: I thought she was great, even down to the spaghetti bit,

728
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: like she's obviously a genius, but she's also a kid,

729
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: and you get everything you need to know.

730
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: Also quick shout out.

731
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Speaker 2: If you want to be impressed, go on TikTok and

732
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: look at the maranos h Halloween costume from this year.

733
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good. It's so Scott.

734
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen Princess Diaries, but

735
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: in Princess Diaries, Anne what's her name? Anne, Hathaway and Hathaway,

736
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: So she's like, not princessy, I don't want to say,

737
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: she's kind of like a scrappy kid. And then they

738
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: make her over into the Princess of Genovia or whatever

739
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: it is.

740
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Speaker 3: So the Morano sisters played both parts.

741
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Speaker 2: One of them is like the scrappy before and then

742
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: it turns and it's I couldn't even tell which Morano

743
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: was witch, and then she's the princess and they look

744
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: like twins.

745
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: Almost Vanessa was before and Laura was after. Right, it

746
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: couldn't even tell. I can't even tell, and I know them.

747
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Speaker 8: I know.

748
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 7: It was so good.

749
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Speaker 2: So anyway, and I look, I also don't know if

750
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: I have an affinity for the character now, because I

751
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: do know the girls, so it's like I don't know.

752
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, I don't hate April at all.

753
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Speaker 1: Ething. I think it was one of the best scenes

754
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: I did in the whole six seasons so far, was

755
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: with her.

756
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: I totally agree. So let's just play it through, right, because.

757
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: Somebody really gave Luke some dimension, and you know, finally

758
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: there's there's a little more development than just a photo

759
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: and a crew cut haircut, a high school photo and

760
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: a couple of things about being under the bleachers. And

761
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: it's my dad's diner. I mean, like, give me something.

762
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's meat. It's like a lot of meat.

763
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: So he's getting this like information and trying to process

764
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: it while in the diner. And this little girl is there,

765
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's a kid, she's like, what twelve?

766
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: What does she say she is? She's twelve?

767
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: Because he hasn't seen her mom in twelve years. Yeah,

768
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: then we and then I love that he goes to

769
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: the science fair and there's the science I mean, the

770
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: whole science.

771
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Fair was so like legit and well done.

772
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: And that's the scene where I'm like, oh, like the

773
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: way you were breathing and the whole thing. I'm like

774
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is actually like what a guy

775
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: like Luke would experience.

776
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: And he's like, do I stay, Like, should we go

777
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: get some ice cream?

778
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: Like he and how he says I didn't know, and

779
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: how important that was for him to say I didn't know,

780
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: And she says, I know you didn't know.

781
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, ah, so you could tell.

782
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 8: He like also cared because she didn't win, and like

783
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 8: she was just sitting by herself and like, you know,

784
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 8: she's just like reading a book. I felt bad for her,

785
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 8: and I think Luke did in that moment, Like he

786
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 8: doesn't know this kid, but now he has an attachment

787
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: he feels for her.

788
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, I'm sorry you didn't win. I feel

789
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: like it's my fault.

790
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know Scott what he Yeah, I agree.

791
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean when he's just nice seeing him developed. Yeah,

792
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's nice seeing him doing something else with

793
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: somebody new and it's his daughter, and it's a nice

794
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: piece of acting that you're asked to do because it's

795
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: all you know, it's all emotional.

796
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Speaker 8: And it's different from like, you know, I think he

797
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 8: grew Rory grew up with Luke, but this is very different.

798
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 8: Like Luke wasn't he was involved in Rory's life, but

799
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 8: I don't think to the extent.

800
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: We never see any of that.

801
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 8: We never see any of that. And really he's just

802
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 8: the guy in town who she grew up with, she loves.

803
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 8: He's basically her family. But this is a little different.

804
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: It's nice to see that.

805
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, So I love those scenes.

806
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: I love those I did too, and I get it.

807
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: I was shocked and delighted by those scenes. I really was.

808
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: I forgot them, and I was just like all this, Yeah,

809
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: you were great. Well I think I think Vanessa and

810
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: I are good together. You know, it really worked. The

811
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: chemistry really works.

812
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 12: Hey, it's Danielle Fischel, right or Strong and Wilfredo. But

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Speaker 2: Now, let's now talk about Richard coming home and realizing you.

840
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Speaker 1: Know what, let me let me say something. Sorry Aliah, sorry,

841
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: but Dondy, how old Vanessa was that age when we

842
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: filmed it? I think so, maybe a bit older.

843
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 7: I don't amaze She and her and I are the

844
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 7: same age.

845
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Speaker 8: Okay, so so she is Vanessa's thirty one.

846
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the same age. So that was a yeah

847
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: she was twelve.

848
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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So imagine being twelve years old and coming

849
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: onto that set as mature as that show was at

850
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: that point. And see, you know, almost midway into season six,

851
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: and she doesn't miss a beat and she stands there

852
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: and she delivers the dialogue and she drives, helps drive

853
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: that scene, and she's fantastic and she knows her job. Yeah,

854
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: she knows what her job is at that tender age.

855
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing that amazed me so much. It's like

856
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: I didn't work with another guest star that was as

857
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: prepared from first take on. She was just nailing, nailing, nailing,

858
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: nailing everything. It was amazing. So you trust an actor

859
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: like that, you know, to come in and know what

860
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: their job is and at twelve years old, very very impressed.

861
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I was so impressed with her me too.

862
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: And isn't that a shout out to the casting person

863
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: because I feel like whoever casts this show really knew

864
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: what they were doing, because you get that, I mean,

865
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: and you can go.

866
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: Through it dared Milo like Melissa, but also also, mind you,

867
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be on that show. So every agent

868
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: in town one of their clients on that show, because

869
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it reached Seinfeld proportions as a

870
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: launching pad for people, but it kind of did.

871
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 7: It did. There's a lot of people.

872
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you got a nice guest spot

873
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: on Gilmore, you had some nice tape for yourself that

874
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: was going to be get that was going to get

875
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Speaker 1: you more work.

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00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: Don't you think it's kind of like if you can

877
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Speaker 2: do Gilmore Girls, or if you can do West Wing

878
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: at that time, you can really do a lot, like

879
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: almost anything.

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00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Right, that's a real proving ground. Yeah, for sure, for sure, yes, yeah.

881
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So now let's go Oh sorry, Susanka,

882
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, I just was going to make a quick comment.

883
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: In that role, you had to cast a child that

884
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 4: could hold her own with adults because there's not any

885
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: other children in the scenes with her, and so you

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: can't cast someone who's too childlike because that's not going

887
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: to fit the role. So to the comment about the casting,

888
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: it was they did a great job.

889
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 8: So I just realized, like there is no one close

890
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 8: to her age, Like I just realized that, like she

891
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 8: really is the only kid.

892
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: No, yeah, only Dean's sister. From time to she didn't.

893
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 7: Even have that many lines.

894
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: Like, nothing like this.

895
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: She had a few, you know, she had a few

896
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: important things, but nothing like this.

897
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So.

898
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Richard and a tough job walking into

899
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: the diner with all that activity.

900
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: That gear the bike has to fall over at the

901
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: right moment. And so okay, So Richard and Emily and

902
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: ultimately Lorlai. So Richard's like, where is Emily? Something isn't right,

903
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: calls Laura Lia frantic. All of it I am liking.

904
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: And Laura's getting the bits and pieces of like, okay,

905
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: Rory's moved out, she's having job interviews, she's cia putting

906
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: it together. I like that Laura called her mom and said,

907
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: you need to call me back, Like dad's frantic.

908
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: I need to know you're okay. I like all that.

909
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: So and that Emily does.

910
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: That's what family does, even if they're estranged or strained

911
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's what family does.

912
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: Yes, and Emily does call her back, and that's how

913
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: we end up on the plane, and uh, that seems amazing.

914
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 7: Yeah it is.

915
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: It was. It was a culmination of emily frustration. And

916
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: you just wondered, and I have questioned it throughout the

917
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: episodes that we've been doing, when is she going to pop?

918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: When is she going to tell her own daughter off?

919
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: And she did it, And what a speech and a speech.

920
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: What a great way for Lorlai as she's walking down

921
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: the stairs to say, I can't remember the exact line.

922
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: Lost me and oh my god, see it makes me

923
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: like I know.

924
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I was full tears, full tears from the

925
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: whole thing because I even though Emily did a lot

926
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: of things wrong, I feel for her because she just

927
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: wants to be connected to these people so badly and

928
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: so the way she thinks it's her fault, and like

929
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: how hurt she is by the way Rory spoke to her,

930
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: and just how much she just wants connection with these people.

931
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: It's like all she wants and she's so sad.

932
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: It was. It was a great speech. It was it

933
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: was one of Emily's fine It was maybe her finest moment.

934
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a real it was a real

935
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: climax for Emily. You know, finally she got to say

936
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: all the things we've all been thinking and feeling as

937
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: regards you know, their relationship and how she's been treated,

938
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: even though you know, some a lot of people don't

939
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: root for and there's plenty of opportunity not to root

940
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: for right right him beings with feelings, and she felt

941
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: like she screwed up Laura and she doesn't want to

942
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: screw up Rory, and she feels like it's just a

943
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: total screw up. And that's as low as you can feel.

944
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: So now she's buying a private jet. Poor woman.

945
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: I also love Lauren Laura Lauren because she doesn't have

946
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: a lot of dialogue, but she portrays so much.

947
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: I just listening.

948
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like she really like took the moment.

949
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 8: Like usually she like makes a joke to Emily and

950
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 8: says something like and this time she just didn't say

951
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 8: anything and let her speak, And I think that was

952
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 8: really important.

953
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

954
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: It's it's an ongoing theme about you know, coming full circle.

955
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: And so when when Rory first moved into their house

956
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: and we talked about how you know, this was their

957
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: chance for the do over, like they everything went wrong

958
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: with Laurel. I so now they're going to raise Rory

959
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: and turn Rory into what they wanted to be. But

960
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 4: now we see how that turns out. Rory runs away

961
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 4: just like.

962
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: Laurel I didn't.

963
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: And so it like it really emphasizes, you know, kind

964
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: of the whole full circle thing.

965
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: I think they deep down all come from a place

966
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 2: of love.

967
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, there's just a lot of love between all.

968
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: Of these people, right, all right, family, let's talk about

969
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: the reunion.

970
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: The reunion of Rory and Lorelai, which I get we're.

971
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Left field, hm hmm.

972
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Like for me, I was so ready for it that

973
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: it was like I get it. It was a little

974
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: easy and I was all about.

975
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: It, like just make this easy on me. But I

976
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: don't know, you guys, say what you think.

977
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: I just love that it happened.

978
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 8: I like that the phone call happened because she got

979
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 8: a job and she's going back to Yale. I think

980
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 8: it was kind of the perfect way to do it,

981
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 8: because who else would you call when you get a job,

982
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 8: Like you'd call your mom or you call your dad.

983
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 8: In that sense, it's Laurel I and you want to

984
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 8: share that exciting news with them. And then obviously with

985
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 8: that comes she's going back to Yale. And I don't know,

986
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 8: I just I think of like when I got like

987
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 8: a job and I called my mom, you know what

988
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 8: I mean, Like, it just makes me think of those moments.

989
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: And she doesn't have Logan anymore, so she's not going

990
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: to call Logan, so that's kind of the default is,

991
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: you know, to call Laura I.

992
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 7: I don't think she would call Lorelei over Logan first too.

993
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think, Look, I love Logan, but I

994
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: think because they were having a break or not, we'll

995
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: find out, it was easier for her to get the

996
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: job call. All of this had to happen the way

997
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: it happened because I think Logan was sort of because

998
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: he was so team Rory, it was holding her back.

999
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: It was like do whatever you want.

1000
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now that they're having a riff, it's like

1001
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 2: she picked herself up and got.

1002
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: Her bleep together.

1003
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1004
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: I did notice one silly thing after the whole that

1005
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: whole opening scene where Laurel Eyes got her arms stuck

1006
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: in the door because the chain is latched. But then

1007
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: when Rory returns and Laurel I runs out to meet her,

1008
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: there was no chain on the door, so he eagleized.

1009
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: It's really but I liked that.

1010
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: I liked the hug on the front lawn and how

1011
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: the camera did a.

1012
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: Full three six. I like that, Yeah, I liked it all.

1013
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: I like how it's like sometimes with a mom, you

1014
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: don't need them to talk about it anymore, just be

1015
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 2: done and forgive and run out with a big hug

1016
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: like that. And so for me it played out like perfectly,

1017
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: although I understand it was a little quick, it was

1018
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: a little easy.

1019
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1020
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 7: I liked it me too.

1021
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Reunion. The only the only thing they could have made

1022
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: that reunion better is is Rory breaks away from the hug,

1023
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: opens up the trunk and says, mom, look what I've got.

1024
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: Body in there. Then it becomes a whole spin off,

1025
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: equally popular, equally popular.

1026
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: What's that, Benburg?

1027
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna fiction now? As always with Gilmour girls, you.

1028
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: Think you've reached the moment and then that you haven't.

1029
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: So she comes into the diner and she's so happy,

1030
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: grabbing the doughnuts, the whole thing.

1031
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: We can get married now, and it's.

1032
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 8: Like it's so, it's so, I mean obviously Amy and

1033
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 8: like Amy did this on purpose, but like the second

1034
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 8: that Rory reunites with Lorelei, now Luke has this like

1035
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 8: it's just it's never the perfect fairy tale.

1036
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: So can I throw something out? And this is something

1037
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: that Suzanne said a few couple of weeks ago. And

1038
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: there's the theories that the Palladinos through season six. I

1039
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: don't think so it may not all be perfect wrote

1040
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: kind of some crappy crap because they weren't negotiating their

1041
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: deal and they weren't going to have their deal for

1042
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: season seven.

1043
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. I might be misconstruing it a little bit.

1044
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't know that that was necessarily happening this early

1045
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: in seasons. Okay, I think it was definitely happening in

1046
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: the last episode because for.

1047
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: Me, I think it's brilliant. I think the I love

1048
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: the writing. I think it's as funny as ever.

1049
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: I like it all.

1050
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: But I the cleverness of the sort of this when

1051
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: and the you know, like, to me, that just keeps

1052
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: me hooked.

1053
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 9: Well.

1054
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: It's also hard because, like we're on season six.

1055
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of shows, especially now, they

1056
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 8: don't get up to six seasons. But at this point

1057
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 8: you kind of start losing your audience and so you

1058
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 8: needed that twist to like keep coming back. Like if

1059
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 8: you think, like, oh, it's all you know, happy go lucky.

1060
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 8: They're back together. It's not like there is a whole

1061
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 8: other storyline coming for me.

1062
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: April isn't cousin Oliver. If you get the reference, it's

1063
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: like she's not She's not cousin Oliver. Like she that's

1064
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm into it.

1065
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: I think. I think the episode on the whole was

1066
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: beautifully written, beautifully directed, beautifully acted. Did it feel like

1067
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: vintage Gilmore girls? Mmmm?

1068
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: That's right?

1069
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: Did it? I mean vintage? Right? It's a new It's

1070
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: like kind of a new iteration. Right, it's a new show.

1071
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: It feels different, it sounds different, but still it's an

1072
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: excellent show. It's hitting on all cylinders. So all right,

1073
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: so what are we giving it? Those two favorite lines? Uh, Tara,

1074
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: what's your favorite line?

1075
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 7: I said my earlier it was the fin line.

1076
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh, then you're you're not qualified to be in this round.

1077
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: If you said it, really, you will get a letter

1078
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: from the committee, Susan, who is now head of that committee.

1079
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: Okay, I have two favorite lines, but probably my backe

1080
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: favorite line is in the very beginning, and.

1081
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: What am I to do with these people?

1082
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: I know they don't follow.

1083
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: Them a while, right, the very opening, when they're going

1084
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: upstairs after all the construction is finished, and Luke says,

1085
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: close your eyes. Laureliz says, I'm not scared of it anymore.

1086
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: I still and I I apologize that I know there's two,

1087
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: but for me when he says there's the big dramatic fight,

1088
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: and then Jackson's like.

1089
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: Was it my meet? Reb? It was?

1090
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: And then there's another same kind of gist on the

1091
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: another one.

1092
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: There, and I'm just like, it was so funny.

1093
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: There's a nice moment between Michelle and Laura Lai that

1094
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about too with the book. It was

1095
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: sort of like nothing, but he's putting the books away

1096
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: and that's how you learn that they called for the job.

1097
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: Reference but it was not uber memorable, but yet enjoyable.

1098
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. My favorite line was every single line

1099
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: from Emily's private plane. Yeah, model, Yeah, all right, what

1100
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: are we giving it? Tara? Are you going to give it?

1101
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: And what's your measuring stick?

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 8: My measuring measuring stick is going to be I'm going

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00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 8: to give it nine DNA tests.

1104
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Speaker 1: Nice.

1105
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: Ten of those leather bound giant book that Rory was

1106
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: carrying around the whole time. Ten of those ten heavy

1107
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: leather bound binders, whatever that was.

1108
00:58:51,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to give it eight Grandma's bedroom sets.

1109
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: A lot of truths, ton of trubs. I was gonna

1110
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: give it. I think it's for me. It's a it's

1111
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Speaker 1: a nine point five M. I don't know what the

1112
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Speaker 1: measuring stick is. Nine point five hair follicles yanked out

1113
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Speaker 1: of his head. All right, that's gonna wrap it up, everybody.

1114
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Speaker 1: Next episode, Season six, episode ten, he's slipping the bread

1115
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Speaker 1: dig Thank you, Tara Suits, Susanne French, Amy Sugarman, best

1116
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Speaker 1: fans on the planet. Thanks so much for your down

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Speaker 1: Let's keep your cards and letters coming. Remember we and

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Speaker 1: I am all In.

1119
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Speaker 5: Stay safe, everyone, everybody off again.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

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Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.