1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: My name is Angela Kinsey and I played Angela Martin. Hello, 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: my dear friends and listeners. It's good to have you 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: back and t G I F as they say. That's right, folks, 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I am coming to you with a very special bonus 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: episode of the Office Deep Dive. I am your host, 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner. Today Friday, I am so happy to bring 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: you the second half of my conversation with Angela Kinsey. Now, 8 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to the first part, go back 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and check that out. It is delightful. But I wanted 10 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to save this part until now for two reasons. The 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: first is that today is an Angela's birthday, or as 12 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Dwight would say, it is your birthday. Happy birthday, Angela, Uh. 13 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: This is my this is my homage to you on 14 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: your very special day. And the second reason is that 15 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: today Angela and I are really getting into the camera's 16 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: role on the show and her relationship to it as 17 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: an actor, so I wanted to save this part for 18 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: our camera as character mini Deep Dive, we also talk 19 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: about Angela's love life, the character Angela uh, and the 20 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: time I almost literally broke her on set, and lots 21 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: of other fond memories. So pull up a chair, or 22 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: strap on your seatbelt tighter however you're listening to this, 23 00:01:52,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: or run on your peloton faster. Enjoy Angela, Kenzie, Bubble 24 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: and Squeak, I love it. Bubble and Squeaker, Bubble and 25 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: Squeaker Cookie every more live over from the nut before. 26 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: In terms of the shooting of the show, the thing 27 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: that I'm the most um proud of is the artistic 28 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: integrity that came with having the camera be a character. 29 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you have any specific moments that you remember about 30 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: interacting with the camera or having the camera as a character. Well, 31 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I have years of a clandestine relationship, you know, So 32 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that was always something we had to consider when Dwight 33 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and I had scenes, is like are we camera aware? 34 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Do we know that the camera's picking this up? Our 35 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: secret rendezvous and our characters look around for the camera, 36 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: and there's times when we see that we've been caught 37 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: and when we react to being caught. So that the 38 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: camera truly was a character. That crew member was there 39 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: and we were trying to hide from that crew member 40 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and not be exposed. So that that was always a 41 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: really fun um fun thing to play off of. And 42 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: then I loved at the end that we then get 43 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: to see the footage and we all crowd around Oscar's 44 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: desk and the revelations that come from that. Um So 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I I love that that got to pay off. And 46 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: so when Angela and Dwight were going off on their trysts, 47 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you were always camera aware. You were always aware of 48 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: where the camera was. Did you ever forget? Oh we did. 49 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean we would get caught in the throes of 50 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: passion and forget. But there was always a moment where 51 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: we looked around before we spoke or did something. There 52 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: was always some moment where we were checking in, like 53 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: in the warehouse, did we get away kind of look around, 54 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes we never saw the camera. They truly were 55 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: hidden and a spy shot. And then there were times 56 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: where one of us would find it, usually me, and 57 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: then I would walk off in a huff. That's such 58 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: an interesting There's something so interesting to me about the 59 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: camera being a character and thinking about Dwight and Angela 60 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: that that they were really trying to figure you guys out. Yeah, 61 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Like if you think about it, like reality TV, there 62 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: was some segment producer that's like get on that they're 63 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: meeting in the warehouse find him. We want that. What, Um, 64 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: how did your relationship? How did it change Angela? Well? 65 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: I think for me, it just opened her up because 66 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that I guess 67 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: in the beginning could sort of see her as one note, like, oh, 68 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: she's just the office bitch. Well guess what, the office 69 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: bitch can be a bitch in love. There's there's a 70 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: there's you know, sneaky bitch. They're super dishes bitch, there's 71 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: uppitty bitch, there's madly in love bitch. Like there's layers 72 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: to her grumpiness, and um, she just as someone I 73 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: think who's very fear based. And I think her falling 74 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: in love with Dwight and having to step out of 75 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: her comfort zone and trust someone and let someone in 76 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: and made her just more three dimensional to me. Right 77 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: when Angela and Dwight started together, were you aware of 78 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: what it was going to turn into? No? No, absolutely not. 79 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: And I mean I've talked about this quite a bit 80 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that we would find out things at the table read. 81 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: So we're at the table read and it's the episode 82 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: where Jim has a barbecue and all of a sudden 83 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: there's two barking stocks rubbing back and forth in the 84 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: dollhouse outside. Rain and I were like what and um, 85 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Greg had told me that in the writer's room, Um, 86 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: they like to try to pitch like different people, different 87 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: characters within the show that might bring out an interesting 88 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: other side to the other person. And so they would 89 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: like sort of brainstorm name on you know, postcards. And 90 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: they love the idea of Dwight and Angela and that 91 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: that kind of couple seeking power you know. Um, and 92 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: they make sense right. It was ridiculous. I mean, having 93 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: a you know, contract to have a baby and your 94 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: rules and his rules and your needs and his requirements 95 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: juxtaposed with Pam and Jam and they're sort of sweet, normal, 96 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: well somewhat normal, unrequited. Yeah, um, I thought brought great comedy, 97 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: but also it's a testament to you and your work 98 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: and Rain that people bought into it and and believed 99 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: it as ridiculous as it was. Well, I think in 100 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: their own way. There's their story isn't much different than 101 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Jim and Pam. It's two people that love each other 102 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: and are both a little too scared to let the 103 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: other person know how much they love each other and 104 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: find ways to throw up all these roadblocks, roadblocks, until 105 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: they finally just step out into that scary place and say, 106 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: all right, I'm in it to win it. This is me. 107 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: You got me right. And but they have their you know, 108 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Jim and Pam. Maybe maybe hers is flirting with him 109 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: a little bit and then he picks her up and 110 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: her shirt comes up and you can see your belly 111 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: and she gets embarrassed and then she doesn't talk to 112 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: him the rest of the day. Maybe that's what's happening there. 113 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: For us, it's like, well, I you know, I will 114 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: here is my like card that we whole punched whenever 115 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: we had sex, like what was it called like a 116 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: frequent like it was an intercourse like punch car. I mean, 117 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: we had our own weird things of just stalling what 118 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: was ultimately what we both wanted. And how much communication 119 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: did you have with the writers about that story? It 120 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: really was the writers. It was they would come up 121 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: with these ideas and I really didn't go to them 122 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: very many times in the course of the show with 123 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: anything that bumped me. Now I would have pitches for them, 124 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: you know. Jim and I pitched to Greg one day 125 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: on set about these ridiculous kind of workshops we'd have 126 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: to do. We both worked in corporate America and there 127 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: were these things like a women in the Workplace kind 128 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: of seminar, and we were telling him about it and 129 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: he was like, hold up, hold up, b J, come here, 130 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: write this down. And he made b jaket a notepadded 131 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: that one little nugget. Of course, BJ took it and 132 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: ran with it became I think the episodes called Boys 133 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: and Girls. Is that what it's called now I'm looking Yes, 134 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: boys and Girls is the fifte episode of the second season. 135 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: So that was Jenna and I pitching that, you know, 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: are women in the workplace stuff? Interesting? Um, so Dwight 137 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: and Angela are together. What was it like bringing Andy 138 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: played by Ed Helms into that well, that just seemed 139 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: doomed from the start. Yes, I mean, you know, it 140 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: was revenge dating. I always felt bad for Andy. I 141 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: felt bad for Andy from day one. Andy so desperately 142 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: you just wanted someone, you think, anyone, you know, and 143 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: I just I just always felt really badly for him. 144 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: And again, it was that thing like Jim and Pam, 145 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: where they had to have these foils, you know, to 146 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: sort of keep them apart, you know, Dwight and I 147 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwight did put my cat in the freezer, 148 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: which was really sucky. And then she dates Andy, and 149 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: then he dates and then you know, so we had 150 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: all of these sort of foil relationships. But Ed Helms 151 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: as a person was so fun. He was so fun 152 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: to work with. That was nice to throw that in there. 153 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: At the end. I felt really bad. I felt my character. 154 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: I felt bad for Andy, But it was really you 155 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: were saying, how was it? Having Ed around? Ed is delightful? 156 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: And his trailer was next to mine. He'd played the 157 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: banjo and I'd go over and hang out and he 158 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: was so fun. There's a behind the scenes story for 159 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: you folks. Ed playing the banjo? Um, so are obviously 160 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: are things were happening in our personal lives, and we were, well, 161 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: you got during the writers strike, righty, and you came 162 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: back and you were really pregnant. How was that? Well? 163 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: It was? It was. It was a little tricky because 164 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: I was very early pregnant right as the strike started, 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: right as we all went on this kind of odd 166 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: hiatus mid season. But my you couldn't tell my body. 167 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: I didn't really start showing for a bit, and then 168 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: we came back. Was it three months later. Yeah, and 169 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I was completely showing I 170 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: was having a baby. And so I remember us sitting 171 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: around being like, Okay, how do we hide this? How 172 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: do we hide it? Because it wouldn't have made sense 173 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: for my character to all of a sudden be pregnant. 174 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: It maybe would have been different had the series had 175 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: its full run that year. Um, So we had to 176 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: hide it. There was no other way. And I had 177 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: one of the most hilarious conversations with Paul Feig, who 178 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: was directing an episode where Phillis Watson on UM Dwight 179 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: and Angela making out in the office, and I was, oh, 180 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: seven and a half months pregnant, and they were trying 181 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: to have Rain hide my belly with his body as 182 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: we're like making out and and we're supposed to be 183 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: in like stages of mid undress, you know, like Rain 184 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: has a shirt off. So they were like at first, 185 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: they're like, well, what if Angel looked out on her 186 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: force or I stood here, or what if we put 187 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: her here? And it was like, where do you put 188 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: the giant pregnant belly? What do we do that doesn't 189 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: also look really inappropriate? And instead of mildly inappropriate. I 190 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: did not know that story. Wow. So the show also 191 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: sort of rode this wave of technology social media. Talk 192 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: to me about your you were on my Space? Well, 193 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: Jenna got on my Space and then got a few 194 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: of us on it, and we did these MySpace blogs. 195 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: We weren't just convinced, probably for two and a half years, 196 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: that we were going to get canceled, so anyway we 197 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: could try to connect and get the get the word 198 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: out about the show, So we would do these behind 199 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: the scenes blogs and stuff. I actually printed out all 200 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: of them. I have all of mine, and you do. 201 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: I do, and um, it is really funny you you 202 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: really see just your journey even as just a young person. Wow. Yeah. 203 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: And some of it is like embarrassing, like the stuff 204 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh my god, here was the thing 205 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: we had a chocolate fountain. You're like, okay, lady, relax, 206 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: Well you were involved with that. The show. You know 207 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: what we talked about before iTunes becoming big, and then 208 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: we were the first show that did original content for 209 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the internet NBC dot com. We did webisodes. Of course, 210 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: no one knew what the Hello We episode was. We 211 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: didn't either. They were going to be little vignettes that 212 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: would live on the Internet. And we won an Emmy 213 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: for one The Accountants, The Accountants and a cameo by 214 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Rain as Dwight cameo by Rain, but he didn't win 215 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: an Emmy. No, he did it. He did it. I 216 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: know jennat so you let Jenna, you can touch mine, 217 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: That's what she said. Um, so this is something that 218 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know that everybody knows. But when 219 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: the show won an Emmy for Best Comedy Ensemble, you 220 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: would think as the comedy ensemble, we would all get 221 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: an Emmy, but we were not producer credit and only 222 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: the producers get an Emmy. And I think that is 223 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of bs so um television and out of me. 224 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: I think everyone should get an Emmy. That's what I think. 225 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: But then as the webisode series, we were nominated Brian 226 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and Oscar and I for a Daytime Emmy and we 227 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: got it. So Jenna does not have an Emmy because 228 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the year we won, she was not a producer. Years 229 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: later some folks got producer credit, but we did not 230 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: win again. So I told Jenna our idea that there 231 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: should be The Accountants spin off, and she was like, yes, 232 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: why is that happening? So Bonnie Hammer at NBC dot com, 233 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: if you'd like to see the Accountants spin off, you 234 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: know if we if we're available, we'll make it happen. 235 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: What what do you remember some of your favorite moments? 236 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what the Booths reaction of 237 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: that was. Um, some of my favorite moments from the Corner, Brian. 238 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Every week, every week there was a favorite moment every week. 239 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things that Oscar would do is 240 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: whenever I had lines that I had to say really 241 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: seriously because Angela was always very serious. In the background, 242 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: he would be pretending to add on his adding machine, 243 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: but he only uses knuckles like a caveman like cluk 244 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: cluk cluk, But he did that try to mess with 245 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: me and then you and I there were times that 246 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: there was a scene happening. I could not make eye 247 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: contact with you because if I did, we'd both go. 248 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I love in the healthcare episode that you full and 249 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: see us break and you do this thing, Brian that 250 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: when someone breaks, it's it's like to deflect from you. 251 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: You call him out. And so so Rain comes out 252 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: and says hot dog fingers and I start laughing. I 253 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: double I kind of double over and start laughing. I 254 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: fully break character and you laugh, but you point at 255 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: me like she did it, and it's in the episode 256 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: they left it in. So every week was great. What 257 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: do you think made our little group of the accounts 258 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: in the corner so special? I think the dynamic. I mean, 259 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: I just always felt like Oscar and I were your 260 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: parents and you were our idiot son who still lived 261 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: at home. I mean, I just the three of as, 262 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: we're just so in sync. From the very beginning, I 263 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: view it the three of us there as sort of 264 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: this perfect comedy triangle. Right. You've got the stern one 265 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: who's got to be in control, You've got the slower 266 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: one who kind of likes to get under the skin 267 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: of the one who likes to be in control. And 268 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: then you have to put upon one Oscar and you 269 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: have this, but he has to also be the referee totally. 270 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: He's the referee in between you and I. But also 271 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: then the alliances keep shifting. It's Kevin and Oscar against 272 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: Angela whenever they want to play. It's Angela and Oscar 273 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: against Kevin whenever they actually have to get things done. 274 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, is it ever Angela and Kevin. No, I 275 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. Well. Actually, one 276 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite pictures that I have is a picture. 277 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: It's a selfie that we took in a car and 278 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: we were filming the episode at your house with the 279 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: creepy portrait of Angela. Yes, because he's mean to you. 280 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you come up, you stand up for me. 281 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: Kevin stands up for you. Oh that's really sweet. Yeah, 282 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: you know what. It's Kevin and Angela versus Oscar when 283 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: Angela finds out Oscar is sleeping with her husband. Yes, 284 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: but Kevin knew, but Ken knew. Kevin knew, but he 285 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: was more just happy that he kept a secret. Yeah, 286 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: he was so proud of himself. Well. One of my 287 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: favorite running bits that we had, and I know you 288 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: know this, was that we would say, first of all, 289 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: whenever we had the smallest scene, you would think it 290 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: was gonna like we were going to get an Oscar 291 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: or something like that. That sounds serious. We took it 292 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: and there were times I would turn to you guys, 293 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, guys, it's not our show. It's 294 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: not our show. Today is not about us. It's not 295 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: our show. But one of my favorite things. As Oscar said, well, 296 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have a spin off on Telemundo and it 297 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: would be Oscar and Hello Caban that. Oh gosh, I 298 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: think that no one thought that we were funnier than 299 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: we did over an accounting. Yeah, well just all of 300 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: us over there. I just referred to um, I would 301 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: injure you a lot. Okay, I have to say one 302 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: thing about that. Creed just came on Jenna Nice podcast 303 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Office Ladies and we're talking about Halloween, and then he 304 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: referenced another another episode and he goes and that's when 305 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Brian like like body checked you, Angela and you went flying. 306 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: He was like he was always doing that. That was hilarious. 307 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Creed thought it was funny. That that's good. It cracked 308 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: me up. I always just had the idea that Kevin 309 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: was not aware of the size of his body and 310 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: so he wouldn't think that he would, you know, potentially 311 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: injure a smaller person walking by or anyone, because it 312 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: would make me laugh so hard just nudging you and 313 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: having you go flying one time into the well. I 314 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: think I hurt you that one time into the bushes. 315 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: The bushes when there was an actual physical imprint of 316 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: my body in the bushes and I got peeled out. 317 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: That was that wasn't a good my, my. And then 318 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: there was one time you you checked me into the 319 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: blinds in the conference room that I didn't think John 320 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: was going to be able to recover from. But my 321 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: personal favorite was one of the first times it happened. 322 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: It was purely by accident, and you had to walk 323 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: around behind me. They gave you the action at the 324 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: top of the scene accounting. You were to walk behind 325 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: me to the file cabinets behind me, and I'm standing 326 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: at my desk and I had a line where I 327 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: had to say, Oscar, did you do the payroll? And 328 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: when Brian walked by, by accident, you bumped into me 329 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: and I you you pump into me and I went 330 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: flying and I said, Oscar, but I was midsing and 331 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: so I said, Oscar, did you the and I didn't 332 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: you hit me? I went up on payroll like like that, 333 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: and you could not could not get back from that. 334 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: You started laughing so hard. O god, And that was 335 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of that, the beginning. Yeah, um, who is 336 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: your favorite guest star we ever had? Oh gosh, we 337 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: had so many good ones. I mean I have favorites 338 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: for different reasons, do you know what I mean? Like 339 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: a dressed Elba he was just like so cool. I 340 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: was like, maybe if I hang out with him, I'll 341 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: be cool. Uh and then um, I loved Oh wait 342 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: are you good? But you look you three? Brian laughed 343 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: and throw his head back and his headphones came head 344 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: fans went flying off. That was funny. Alright, um, did 345 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: you say head fans, head fans, welcome to the podcast world. 346 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: Shut it. That's Brian's favorite thing. By the way, when 347 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: I would give him hard time, he'd go shut it. Um, Okay, 348 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: So I loved it dress because he just was cool. 349 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean I talked to Cathy Bates about r VS 350 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: and traveling around America and RV and I'm like, you're 351 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: really cool. Um. James Spader though one of my all 352 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: time favorites because, like Creed, he just would say things 353 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: and would be like, wait, is that he has lived 354 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: a life and and I'll never forget. We had hair 355 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: and makeup side by side, Like we'd get touch ups 356 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: at lunch side by side. So I'd be sitting in 357 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: a chair next him and I was talking to Kenneth Paul, 358 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: who did my makeup about the fact that my daughter 359 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: liked to sleep in bed with me, and that I 360 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: felt bad. And you know, I knew she was getting older. 361 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: She was like four years old, and I knew I 362 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: shouldn't let her crawl in a bed and sleep with 363 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: me in the night, but she's so snugly, and and 364 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: I just thought I was talking to Kenneth Paul because 365 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: when James Spader would come in to get his makeup done, 366 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: it looked like he went into a trance, like asleep, 367 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: like some meditative trance. He looked asleep and he sat up, 368 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: because at this time in my life I was a 369 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: single mom. He sat up and he looked at me, 370 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: and he goes, Angela, get that baby out of your 371 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: bed if you ever want a man in there. I 372 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: was like, what, You're alive and you're talking, And I 373 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: was like, all right, James, I guess, okay, huh what 374 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: what so James James being there? Now? What? Um? When 375 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: did you find out Steve was leaving? And how did 376 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: you feel did you feel the show could keep going? 377 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember the exact moment. I kind 378 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: of feel like I was with everybody somewhere, maybe they 379 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: announced it at a table read. I know there were 380 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: some people who were privy before some of the rest 381 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: of us, but I kind of like Steve talked to 382 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: us on that one day and gave us the heads 383 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: up before the announcement because he's just a class act 384 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: like that. And I just remember thinking, well, God, I 385 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: felt like we had such a deep bench. You know, Bryan, 386 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: that's a basketball term. I don't know if you know 387 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: basketball well. In a basketball game, you have your starters, 388 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: but you want a really solid second string, right, So 389 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: you want a deep bench they call it because in 390 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: basketball you all sit on a bench. Now, I felt like, 391 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: you're welcome, Bryan. Thank you for explaining that to me. Brian, 392 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: who should, by the way, you have a spin off 393 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: where he just has famous athletes coming here and talk 394 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: to him because the guy knows everybody. I'll never this 395 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: is like me getting off topic. But we were at 396 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: like a fancy kind of restaurant bar place, and Brian 397 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: was like, my friend's going to meet us here, Aaron, 398 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, great, I meet Aaron. I'm like, Aaron, 399 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: what do you do? How are things? He's like, good, 400 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm I play football. I was like, oh, that's fun, 401 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Like what team are you playing on? He's like, I 402 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: played for Green Bay and I was like that is 403 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: so cool. Well good for you. And then I tell 404 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. I'm like, so I met this guy Aaron. 405 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: He's a quarterback for like, I don't know, something with 406 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: a bay, like a Seattle maybe, And he's like, what 407 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: did you meet aarn Rogers? Anyway, I digress. Brian needs 408 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: to have also famous athletes show, so make that happen. 409 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just remember thinking we had a deep bench, 410 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: and I thought that I was really hopeful that we 411 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: could continue. I was scared, and I was sad. I 412 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: was sad, and I was scared because I felt like 413 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: Steve was such our anchor, but I never doubted what 414 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: the rest of us could do. And I was also excited. 415 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: It was kind of a complex range of emotions because 416 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: I was excited to see how it would blow out 417 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: the world and what other sort of cool things might 418 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: come from it, and the ways we might see other 419 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: characters take on new responsibility. Absolutely, I feel like it 420 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: was more emotional for me when he left than when 421 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the end of the show happened. I don't know why. Well, 422 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: he was like our you know, sort of the father 423 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: figure of our show, and it was really hard to 424 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: imagine walking on set without him. I actually went back 425 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: and I found an email that I wrote him, um, 426 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: a few days into our first episode back without him, 427 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, dear Steve, like in the email, like, 428 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: it was really weird to walk on set today and 429 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: not see you. I miss our talks about our weekend 430 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: because he would walk over and talk to us about 431 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: his weekend, to Jenna and I about what he got 432 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: at Target, you know, And I was like, I just 433 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: really miss you. And I sent him a picture and 434 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: and we email like that from time to time. Um. 435 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just remember really missing him his presence. 436 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: He's also just brilliant. He's brilliant. We all got the 437 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: best ever comedy like on site training from just being 438 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: in scenes with him and watching him, because not only 439 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: can he just make a character just be hilarious, but 440 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: then in a second he and flip it and rip 441 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: your heart out. Mm hmm. For the finale, our finale, 442 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: the finale of the show, how are you leading into that? 443 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: The end? I was emotional. I was emotional. I I 444 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: had heard that Greg really wanted Steve to make a 445 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: cameo in the finale, and Steve was like, well, I 446 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: just feel like my characters wrapped up, Like why would 447 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Michael come back? And Greg was like, is there a 448 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: scenario where Michael would come back to dunder Mifflin And 449 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Steve said, well, if Dwight and Nangela got married, Michael 450 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: would come to their wedding. But they Greg really really 451 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: really didn't want the press to find out, and things 452 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: have a way of leaking. There's a lot of people 453 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: that coming come like back and forth on a set, 454 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: and he really wanted it locked up just for the fans. 455 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: He wanted that surprise. We've talked about this before. Um, 456 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: but what do you think about the idea of a 457 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: reunion show? Well, obviously, you don't ever want to mess 458 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: with what is such a beautiful thing, right, Those seasons 459 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: are beautiful and they mean a lot to people, and 460 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you you would never want to open them back up 461 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: and not do them justice. Um. But when I think 462 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: of like a reunion movie, like one one moment, one 463 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: glimpse to see where these people are, I think part 464 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: of the reason why I love the idea is because 465 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: I miss these characters. Not only do I miss my 466 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: friends and to be in one room with all of them, 467 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Like the the brunch that Greg hosted at his house 468 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: and a bunch of us were able to attend. Phillis 469 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: walked in the door, and when I saw her, I 470 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: burst into tears. I hadn't been in the same room 471 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: with Phillis in a long time, just because of life. 472 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: We stay in touch, you know, but it's different getting 473 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: to all sit around a table together. And so I 474 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of get emotional when I think about it, because 475 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, life is short, and I just think I'd 476 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: love to know where these characters are, and I'd love 477 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: to sit around a table with those people I love. Again, 478 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: why do you think the show has become more popular 479 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: now than it was when it air? What is it? 480 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: What is it that that attracts people to it? Well, Brian, 481 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: we can ask this a lot, right, I Mean, we 482 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: both sort of have our things, our theories on it, 483 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: but um, you know, undeniably, it's the way that we 484 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: consume media. The fact that it can just be on 485 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: anytime you want. You don't have to wait for Thursday 486 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: night at eight o'clock. It's always there, It's always available. 487 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: But I also think on the other layer, is it 488 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: is comfort. It is comfort. You turn it on and 489 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: you know where everyone's going to be, you know where 490 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Pam is that reception, you know, accounting, Those people become 491 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: like your extend family and you're just sort of checking 492 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: in with them. And I have people tell me all 493 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: the time, as I know you do as well. Let's 494 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: say that they put it on at the end of 495 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: a long day or a bad day, or maybe something 496 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: they're anxious about. They put it on in it it's 497 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: just comfort. Yeah, what are you the most proud of? 498 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: I guess it's legacy. I'm so proud of the show. 499 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: And I'm so proud that it keeps finding an audience 500 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: because we all thought it had the staying power, but 501 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: to see that affirmed in millions of people that still 502 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: watch it, I'm really proud of that we made something 503 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: that will last. Right. It's crazy to me the attachment 504 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: that eleven, twelve year old, thirteen year old you know, 505 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: high school kids have to that show. Now, what is it? 506 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Is it? The characters, the relationships. It's also funny. It's 507 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: also really really freaking funny. Like I was watching it 508 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: and like I'm like, it's funny, and there's stuff out 509 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: there that I ain't so funny. And it's funny. I mean, 510 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, my daughter is eleven and she had never 511 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: seen the show. She grew up on the set she 512 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: was born. Season five was there every day. I mean, 513 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, I had a little kind of baby nursery 514 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: trailer next right there. But um, you know, it's interesting. 515 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: She came back to school this year, she's in fifth grade, 516 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: and she said, Mom, everyone in my class watched The 517 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Office over the summer. Everyone I see a kid with 518 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: a dunder Mifflin shirt. These are kids I've known since 519 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: kindergarten and now they're like seeing me and they're like, 520 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about. You've been over 521 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: my house so many times. I make you snacks. But 522 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: she was like, can I watch it now? I was like, okay, alright, fine, 523 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: I think there's some content that might not be appropriate, 524 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: but well, muscle through it together. But um, and she's 525 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: into it. And my my stepsons are into it. They're 526 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: eleven and nine. They love it. My son Jack, who's eleven, 527 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: loves it so much that he's now he's watching it 528 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: and now he listens to the podcast. He'll listen to 529 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: this one too, so like he's he loves itable. It's unbelievable, 530 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: and they I feel like they kind of see me 531 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: in a different way now, Like my own kids are like, oh, wow, 532 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: you did that. I'm like, yes, what do you guys 533 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: think I do when I leave here? Did something? Mom? 534 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: You did something other than give me some goldfish and 535 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: some pretzels? Um? All right, So you're doing a podcast now, 536 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: office Ladies? Tell me about it? Um? Yes, Brian, I 537 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: am doing a podcast called Office Ladies. It is with 538 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: my bff, Jenna Fisher. You know, she and I became 539 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: best friends on set and I talked. We talked every 540 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: single day and we have for years. I mean Rain 541 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: used to say he would turn to us and say, 542 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: what more could you have to say to each other? 543 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: But she's just my best friend. I feel like I 544 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: don't even know how to like really relate to life 545 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: until I bounce it off of her. And my husband 546 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: is not a big talker, so he's like, I'm like, oh, 547 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: I probably should you know, talk to jenn about it. 548 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: He's like, yes, do please because he thinks I yeah. 549 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: He's like, filter it through and then he goes I 550 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: get the condensed version where you're like more rational, you've 551 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: bounced it through your BFF filter. Um. But Jenna and 552 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I were trying to like think about, well, what can 553 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: we do together? And one of the big things for 554 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: us is that we wanted to work in l A. Well, 555 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get an acting job in Los 556 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: Angeles these days, folks. Most of them are filmed in Vancouver, Atlanta. 557 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And we didn't want to be away from our families. 558 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: And I love being the architect in my own time, 559 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: and I've never really been able to do that. And 560 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: we get to hang out and talk about one of 561 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: our favorite chapter of our life. So it's just a rewatch, 562 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's our love for the show. It's just 563 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: it's just a little bit of everything awesome. Um. All right, 564 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Can you do one last thing for me, just so 565 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: we can identify you? Um for people listening, can you 566 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: say your name and your role on the Office. My 567 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: name is Angela Kinsey and I played Angela Martin. Should 568 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: I say Angela Martin? Shrut? I don't think so, do 569 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: you know? Why? Can I tell you? I always say 570 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Angela Martin And I've had people right in and say 571 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: why don't you say, Angela Martin shrewt. So I was like, okay, fine. 572 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: So then one time I wouldn't you just be Angela's shrewd? Yeah? 573 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: So then one time I wrote and I said, okay, fine, 574 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: I guess I'm Angela shrewt. And then I had someone 575 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: right to me and say thanks for ruining the series. 576 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, what is the statute here? Six years 577 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: is not a spoiler alert? Yeah? At what point? So 578 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: now I just say, Angela Martin, dude, thank you, You're welcome. 579 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Did I do? Okay, You're so great. I told you 580 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: she was great. I mean I told her that she 581 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: was great. Now I'm telling you, so both you and 582 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: her know that she is great. All Right, that's it. 583 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: Huge thanks to Angela for sitting down with me. Huge 584 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: thanks to you or listen thing. I hope you enjoyed that. 585 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: If you didn't, let's blame Angela, all right, just write 586 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: to her about it, complain away. I will not take 587 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: any blame for Angela. It's a policy I have. It's 588 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: strictly enforced. So blame her. Have a great week, everybody. 589 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: I will see you next time for even more office 590 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: deep dive. The office deep Dive is hosted and executive 591 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer, Lang Lee. 592 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer, our associate producer is 593 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: Emily Carr, and our assistant editor is Diego Tapia. My 594 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: main man in the booth is Alec Moore. Our theme 595 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: song Bubble and Squeak, performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, 596 00:34:48,640 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: and the episode was mixed by Seth o'landski. Maybe there 597 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: were a few more who were in. I think just 598 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Roy and you and Leslie, David Baker, you know, not 599 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: Stanley Stanley. But it's weird to say you and right, right, right, 600 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: because you are not Kevin right, Whereas it's funny you're 601 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: exactly like your character in the show. So that's the 602 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: thing that Bryan loves to do that you guys love 603 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that bit.