Speaker 1: Every day a week up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Y'all done morning everybody. It's the j n V.
Speaker 3: Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: Lawa roses here as well, and we got some icons legends. Today,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, we have new addition and boys to Men.
Speaker 4: They're going on tour together. I feel like this should
Speaker 4: have been happy, right. Why did it take so long?
Speaker 4: Who wants to start?
Speaker 5: I think that there's a lot of logistics that go
Speaker 5: with having two groups, two groups with such great success.
Speaker 5: In order to get that together, scheduling has to be right. Also,
Speaker 5: the you know what I mean, the energy has to
Speaker 5: be right, the climate has to be right. And I
Speaker 5: just believe that this is the time. God put this
Speaker 5: time as the time to show the world what this,
Speaker 5: this whole vibe is all about. New audition, Boys to Men,
Speaker 5: Tony Box and it's a real thing. And this is
Speaker 5: the moment God placed it right here.
Speaker 2: Not his boys to Benfield.
Speaker 3: I got to ask, because you guys, they were your idols,
Speaker 3: right and still you seeing them? You know, when y'all
Speaker 3: had to show in Philly, y'all coming to the bus
Speaker 3: and y'all singing.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that's not actually how it went, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, no, no, I don't mean to.
Speaker 5: I don't mean to, but you know, but you know,
Speaker 5: like in order in order for the story to to
Speaker 5: to actually be uh told in the movies, sometimes you
Speaker 5: have to, you know, make it all go together and sequence,
Speaker 5: you know, for people can see this. So there's truth
Speaker 5: to that. But it was Michael Bibbins, Ricky and and Ron.
Speaker 5: They were actually coming off stage at the Powerhouse and
Speaker 5: they were in Philly and they were introducing that you
Speaker 5: guys were going to be BBD and we had just
Speaker 5: by the time they came off stage, we had just
Speaker 5: snuck backstage.
Speaker 1: We passed past us back and before we got backstage,
Speaker 1: and as.
Speaker 5: Soon as we got there, they were coming off stage,
Speaker 5: and I guess, uh, Nate asked Ricky can we sing
Speaker 5: for him?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And Ricky was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: got it tape.
Speaker 7: Y'all?
Speaker 5: He said yeah, yeah, got it tape. And we was like, no,
Speaker 5: we ain't got no tape. And he was like, well,
Speaker 5: y'all need a tape, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 5: started writing down the address, but then Nate was like, yo,
Speaker 5: let me go to BEIV. So he's like, BIV, can
Speaker 5: you know, can you know, you know, can we sing
Speaker 5: for you? And he was like, can y'all do it
Speaker 5: right now? Boom we busted into can you standing right?
Speaker 1: In? A capella? So it was backstage.
Speaker 5: It wasn't at a tour bus, but you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, the story nonetheless, it definitely resonated.
Speaker 1: The tour bus was more exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, there was a lot more sexy.
Speaker 4: I do want to ask you every every artist, manager, artists,
Speaker 4: executive relationship has its highs and lows. When you look back,
Speaker 4: what was some of the biggest misunderstandings or lessons y'all
Speaker 4: learned from you know, each other.
Speaker 8: I guess you could say, like when any relationship, I
Speaker 8: mean in a group, because even when BIBB signed his
Speaker 8: years ago, it was almost like him being a fifth
Speaker 8: member at the time, and I think it was more
Speaker 8: like a dynamic type thing. You know, we learned a
Speaker 8: lot about each other's personalities as well as just understanding,
Speaker 8: you know, how the business went. So you know, you
Speaker 8: had your share of highs and lows and ups and downs.
Speaker 9: But at the end of the day. It's all about that.
Speaker 9: It's better is the end of.
Speaker 1: A thing than the beginning and the other thing.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, So it's one of those things where it's like,
Speaker 9: here we are, look at this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: A lot of people didn't think that this, you know,
Speaker 8: situation would even happen. But as you mentioned, yeah, poison
Speaker 8: men owe a lot to new audition. But this is
Speaker 8: what succession looks like. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So so it's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 9: these guys did what they did, and they gave us
Speaker 9: the ball and we ran with it so that now
Speaker 9: we can.
Speaker 1: Rule all together. Now we can roll with it together.
Speaker 3: How often do y'all rehearse, right, Because it's a lot
Speaker 3: of different characters, with a lot of different families, with
Speaker 3: a lot of different moving pieces.
Speaker 2: But people love the old dances.
Speaker 3: They love to see in sick, they love to see
Speaker 3: somebody going left, somebody going right, the outfit.
Speaker 2: So how is rehearsal for.
Speaker 8: Y'all that's gonna That's that's the beautiful thing about new
Speaker 8: addition in itself, Like they carried the torch of what
Speaker 8: R and B groups should look like they are the standard,
Speaker 8: and when it comes to this tour that we're gonna
Speaker 8: show that, like, it's all gonna be implemented in the
Speaker 8: in the whole production along with Tony. So it's like
Speaker 8: rehearsals we haven't started yet because this is our this
Speaker 8: is our first promo run.
Speaker 9: So but once we do, we're gonna.
Speaker 6: Lock in and it's gonna be dope. It's gonna be
Speaker 6: the smartest though. He came in with the crutches because
Speaker 6: he knew what was gonna happen with.
Speaker 1: This is just prep. This is prep right here the game.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that that might be an excuse.
Speaker 5: That's not right, there's an excuse right now. I get
Speaker 5: through tsa quicker than y'all. Y'all, how long is the show?
Speaker 5: Because you'll all have so many men individually.
Speaker 2: As long as the show.
Speaker 10: As individuals, you know, we probably give them, you know,
Speaker 10: ninety minutes, maybe even two hours. But when you put
Speaker 10: all of this excellence together, you know, in one night
Speaker 10: on one stage, that's got to be you know, prince
Speaker 10: like you know, it's almost three hours. It's got to
Speaker 10: be Bull Springsteen, you know, three hours and some change
Speaker 10: and I'm excited about it because how do you put
Speaker 10: that in ninety minutes?
Speaker 9: You can't.
Speaker 10: Can't you know, when you got success in the legacy
Speaker 10: that we all have and all the joints and even
Speaker 10: the individuals that are you know, within this conglomerate right here,
Speaker 10: I'm just excited about it. You know, we didn't start rehearsal,
Speaker 10: but mister Brooke Payne gave us a date for probably
Speaker 10: December first, And like Sean said, when we lock in,
Speaker 10: it's going to be crazy.
Speaker 11: Who chooses the track list?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 11: Who do all just all sit together?
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're gonna put it all together.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yea.
Speaker 8: Yeah, We're all gonna sit down and we're gonna figure
Speaker 8: out how this whole thing works. Because the truth is,
Speaker 8: again we are connected, we are from different cities, but
Speaker 8: the story is the same. So it's gonna be deeper
Speaker 8: than just doing songs. This is telling his story. Yeah,
Speaker 8: this is more so and unlike any show that you've
Speaker 8: ever seen, this isn't just about you know, lights and
Speaker 8: cameras and all this other stuff.
Speaker 9: We are literally bretering, like from beginning to end.
Speaker 8: So we have to tell that story and amalgamate that
Speaker 8: story to make people understand why this is important.
Speaker 13: This is deeper than just a genre.
Speaker 8: This is deeper than just all it's just a bunch
Speaker 8: of black folks on stage, like this is history between
Speaker 8: us New Edition and Tony Braxon. It's one hundred and
Speaker 8: fifty million records. Got so, so the thing is is
Speaker 8: that that that has to be celebrated.
Speaker 9: And this is deeper.
Speaker 8: This, This is why we urge everybody to come because
Speaker 8: this is history. This is something you will never see
Speaker 8: anywhere else in decades. So it's bigger than us.
Speaker 4: Can we expound on the brotherhood you know between all
Speaker 4: of y'all, man, you know, I love seeing all of
Speaker 4: y'all together after all these years. What have y'all learned
Speaker 4: about forgiveness and just staying together as brothers?
Speaker 12: Audition and boys?
Speaker 1: Well, I could say, go ahead ahead, you said.
Speaker 6: I've said before you talking about the fact that when
Speaker 6: you're talking about true brotherhood, it's a real true brotherhood
Speaker 6: and we're like real siblings. And I've said that that's
Speaker 6: why you see, we go through our ups and downs,
Speaker 6: our battles were then add some ups and downs and
Speaker 6: all of the above. But at this stage of our lives,
Speaker 6: when we come together man, it's like it's just nothing
Speaker 6: but laughter. It's like, at this point of our lives,
Speaker 6: we didn't been through a lot, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 6: more to deal with as far as challenges go, but
Speaker 6: we've come full circles just as grown men, just as
Speaker 6: as human beings, and and we have fun when we
Speaker 6: come together.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, do y'all need to talk with
Speaker 2: y'all just like, look, we brought this.
Speaker 1: This is the deal again.
Speaker 5: We this is the first time that we've even come
Speaker 5: together in this circumstance, you know what I mean. Other
Speaker 5: times it's been you know, we've been on shows with
Speaker 5: with BBD, We've done a few shows with Johnny and
Speaker 5: Bobby and.
Speaker 1: You know, and we I think we did one gig
Speaker 1: that we all were together.
Speaker 5: But I feel like in order for the energy to
Speaker 5: actually get to the place where it's supposed to be
Speaker 5: something like that, a breag Bread moment has to happen.
Speaker 5: You know, some things, you know, some things that we
Speaker 5: might have on our hearts may need to come out,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's that's what
Speaker 5: brotherhood is about, you know. And and I'm a big
Speaker 5: fan of atonement guys. You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 5: a big fan of of of of letting it go,
Speaker 5: especially at the age that we're all at.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying. I'm trying to. Yeah, man, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm in I'm in coach mode. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm really trying to be in
Speaker 1: coach mode. This is the time. Let's go out, let's
Speaker 1: make some money, and let's entertain these people and be
Speaker 1: on That's.
Speaker 12: All in conversation like that initial conversation, but we did.
Speaker 8: What he was saying was it's it's one of those
Speaker 8: things where because we're on the road and because we
Speaker 8: have the time, it's going to be one of those
Speaker 8: organic things. We don't want to make this a melo
Speaker 8: drama and it ain't no negativity, ain't no mess like like.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, None of that ship excuse me,
Speaker 8: none of that stuff like it. It's really just about
Speaker 8: understanding how important this meant or this was, and not
Speaker 8: only to the fans, but to us.
Speaker 14: This is what we're doing.
Speaker 8: We're celebrating, we're going to have a good time. We're
Speaker 8: gonna go on the road and We're gonna sing and
Speaker 8: dance our asses off. Absolutely, We're gonna give people the
Speaker 8: greatest show they've ever seen in their life.
Speaker 2: You have fun doing this, have fun doing it, That's right, Michael.
Speaker 11: Anybody ever tell you that you look like Yo Gotti.
Speaker 15: We took the peture together at what was that the
Speaker 15: BET Awards, so there's a picture of.
Speaker 13: Him and not standing side by side. It was just
Speaker 13: cool to meet him too. I think he was right
Speaker 13: at the beginning of him coming through the door. He
Speaker 13: was hustling.
Speaker 15: He was standing outside on the red cop it with
Speaker 15: not no bodyguards and all that.
Speaker 13: He looked like he was.
Speaker 15: He had his crewel there, but he was a little
Speaker 15: more loose and it was It was good. We just
Speaker 15: looked at each other like okay, and we just smiled.
Speaker 11: Oh, so, y'all looked like y'all could be brothers.
Speaker 15: Everybody said, I think, what's one of the kids looked
Speaker 15: at the TV. It was like that, and it couldn't
Speaker 15: figure it out. You know, one of my kids, like
Speaker 15: he looked like that. I don't know if it was
Speaker 15: Shilah Starler was one of them. They was a little
Speaker 15: you know, it was little. Yeah, So it was all
Speaker 15: good and shout out to him. Man, hell of a CEO.
Speaker 2: Now what do you think there's missing in the R
Speaker 2: and B game right now? Why don't you think there's
Speaker 2: more R and B groups?
Speaker 12: They're missing us?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you know, I just think the
Speaker 6: times is changed. And that's the thing that we understand
Speaker 6: about time. Uh, and the world is constantly going and
Speaker 6: we've seen nothing stays the same. And the part of
Speaker 6: the thing is that we have to learn and have
Speaker 6: the attitude and take that mindset that you know, you
Speaker 6: have to learn how to work, continue to do what
Speaker 6: we do in that compromise that we are, but also
Speaker 6: understand where the world is and figure out how we
Speaker 6: can fit in it, because well, ain't stopping.
Speaker 16: For us that thinks we live in a YouTube society
Speaker 16: and everybody's selfish. Nobody wants to share with their friends
Speaker 16: or their brothers and their cousins. Nobody wants to make
Speaker 16: a group. Everybody wants their own shit, absolutely with.
Speaker 1: Their own money.
Speaker 13: Well go ahead, no, I'm not going before you.
Speaker 2: Ian might got an R and B group and to cut.
Speaker 13: Some are I was just going to make a point.
Speaker 15: But if you want to jump in, jump, I was
Speaker 15: gonna say, bro. Honestly, I think it started at the Recordly,
Speaker 15: I think people that are hired now some of them
Speaker 15: don't have an eye for talent.
Speaker 13: They have an eye for their computer.
Speaker 15: Sometimes you have to go in the street, like we
Speaker 15: met in the street. You know, they're singing to be close,
Speaker 15: and I think they look at it as the hits
Speaker 15: of the computer makes them a hit group. But it's
Speaker 15: so much more to it. And back in the day,
Speaker 15: like for myself as the CEO, I stayed the two
Speaker 15: in the morning and kept looking at the pictures, listening
Speaker 15: to the music, the an R and the people at
Speaker 15: the office. Now they're on the red carpet before the
Speaker 15: artists get there. So the responsibility and the care the
Speaker 15: detail is missing. And if someone would just slow down
Speaker 15: and say, yo, how many times we gotta look at
Speaker 15: the Grammys and not.
Speaker 13: One R and B group is on the shove right right?
Speaker 15: And the first time we see in an R and
Speaker 15: B group in the last five years, well, you know,
Speaker 15: we saw what Bruno on them did, but that was
Speaker 15: a different thing. I'm talking about someone from the hood,
Speaker 15: like a yoga signal audition boys to men. Jagged Edge
Speaker 15: is when Wan Suns was on there and Jesse gave
Speaker 15: them the shot. That's the first time we seen black
Speaker 15: kids on the Grammys ever in a long time. And
Speaker 15: that's where it starts. It starts Younger, it Scotts shot
Speaker 15: at the office, or it's gonna have to come from us.
Speaker 4: I don't think people are looking for talent no more.
Speaker 4: I think they're looking for people that are just doing absolutely.
Speaker 5: Absolutely you don't even have to have a record deal.
Speaker 5: You get the numbers and then you get a record deal,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And really just understand that
Speaker 5: there is a blueprint. You understand, a blueprint that we
Speaker 5: followed to get to where we are.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: There's the groups of old of our time that actually
Speaker 5: helped shape the entertainment value of all of us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So all these artists have to do is keep looking
Speaker 5: at the blueprints, because the blueprints still exists. That longevity
Speaker 5: just means that you did something very very right. You
Speaker 5: understand and understanding behind it is. They're not looking for longevity,
Speaker 5: They're looking for the quick fix. Social media is the
Speaker 5: fastest way to become famous, but also the quickest way
Speaker 5: to lose everything.
Speaker 8: You know what I say, Like everybody's obsessed with going
Speaker 8: viral and not understanding a component to the word viral
Speaker 8: is virus exactly? Like why would you want to be
Speaker 8: a viral? Like there's two things that happens to viruses,
Speaker 8: One they get killed or it kills everything, Like why
Speaker 8: would you want to why would you want to base
Speaker 8: your career off of going viral?
Speaker 9: Like there's there's no future in that, and that's what
Speaker 9: the industry is t Sean.
Speaker 15: Honestly, I would have went second on that question, but
Speaker 15: I think we should ask Ralph what do.
Speaker 13: He think is missing? Because let me, let me, let
Speaker 13: me finish.
Speaker 15: I'm gonna tell you why the responsibility of being up
Speaker 15: front is even something that's in you, you're born with.
Speaker 15: And I feel like that question you gotta ask yourself.
Speaker 15: When he sits and watch a group of YouTube, he's
Speaker 15: looking to see who reminds him of himself. He's got
Speaker 15: that route treasurment. So Rizzo take the mic and tell
Speaker 15: us what do you think.
Speaker 13: There?
Speaker 15: It is?
Speaker 1: What was the question, what's missing in R and B?
Speaker 1: What's missing about the group's R and B?
Speaker 13: Like what's missing?
Speaker 17: There's a lot missing that game. It's all changed. It's
Speaker 17: not even the same place that we were in when
Speaker 17: we started. So everything has changed.
Speaker 1: R and B.
Speaker 13: Man, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, it seems like everything has changed.
Speaker 17: Man, nothing's how it used to be, you know, when
Speaker 17: we're out here trying to think about something in particular
Speaker 17: that can bring it back like it used to be.
Speaker 17: And I don't know, I don't have no answers with
Speaker 17: all that. I just feel like it's evolved.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting even, you know, for Bible to say
Speaker 4: Ralph was the lead because you were the lead technically.
Speaker 12: But then Bobby went off and was a great leading man,
Speaker 12: and Johnny.
Speaker 4: Was a great leading man, and BBD had success like
Speaker 4: all of y'all could have been a leading Now.
Speaker 17: He's something about how it started all off A candy
Speaker 17: girl Michael Jackson analogy. Can'dy new audition? Candy girl Jackson's
Speaker 17: that vibe is what Mike's speaking on. And during that
Speaker 17: time period, it wasn't a whole lot of.
Speaker 1: Examples for us.
Speaker 17: We just had what was in front of us or
Speaker 17: behind us, and trying to take what we had learned
Speaker 17: and make something.
Speaker 1: New out of that.
Speaker 14: Exactly.
Speaker 13: It's not adding what was going on in the.
Speaker 2: Current times, you know what the streets popping, And.
Speaker 7: I just think that back when we first started, what
Speaker 7: motivated us, what influenced us, the artists, you know, the Temptations,
Speaker 7: Blue Magic, the Jackson's is Death, that's not the motivation today.
Speaker 7: Before we even like knew anything about how to even
Speaker 7: get a record deal, because that was actually the furthest thing.
Speaker 1: From my mind.
Speaker 7: There was no way that you do that to approach that.
Speaker 7: So our main motivation was to how do we put
Speaker 7: on a good show. And we've rehears probably for a
Speaker 7: couple of years before we even stepped on the stage,
Speaker 7: and we were more excited about making the crowd scream,
Speaker 7: you know, than actually making a new record. And so
Speaker 7: now today, like Sean said, it's the motivation is how.
Speaker 1: Do I become famous? Not really about how do I
Speaker 1: put on a good show.
Speaker 2: But it has to feel good.
Speaker 3: Like I said, viv videos of my daughter seven years
Speaker 3: old singing new audition records, which is crazy because it's
Speaker 3: the music is a feeling, and I feel like sometimes
Speaker 3: you don't get that with these artists, Like music doesn't
Speaker 3: last at the time that it does well, you.
Speaker 9: Don't think that's a big piece of what's missing.
Speaker 1: When I think of it, it's love.
Speaker 17: Like when we came up, it was a lot of love, right,
Speaker 17: And it seems like love is not a part of
Speaker 17: the major the topics now.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 17: It's not about it's not even in the music. It's
Speaker 17: not in the approach towards when you the passion that
Speaker 17: we had.
Speaker 1: We had love for this.
Speaker 13: We wanted to do what we saw the Jackson's doing.
Speaker 1: We really wanted to make it happen.
Speaker 12: It wanted to be great.
Speaker 8: The industry, the industry doesn't groom legends anymore. They don't
Speaker 8: groom longevity anymore because it doesn't benefit them. Like think
Speaker 8: about it, when you when you have a company and
Speaker 8: you know that you can go viral with a kid
Speaker 8: for fifteen minutes, get your ad revenue, and then.
Speaker 9: Kick them to the side, right, and then move on
Speaker 9: to the next thing. That's a good money maker to anybody.
Speaker 9: I was there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: And the artist suffer, yeah, but but the bottom line
Speaker 8: is is that the artists suffer, but the artists still
Speaker 8: have the hand. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 8: a lot of the things that we don't like about
Speaker 8: you know, because I'm being group chats with a lot
Speaker 8: of producers and managers and stuff like that, and they
Speaker 8: complain about the same thing, and my thing is change it,
Speaker 8: that's all. Just change it, stop doing, stop chasing the
Speaker 8: carrot like, because everybody wants to try to fit in
Speaker 8: the system, knowing damn well it doesn't benefit them. So
Speaker 8: the music industry isn't an industry without the music.
Speaker 1: So change it.
Speaker 9: Change the paradigm, change how music is consumed. Change you know, who.
Speaker 8: Has the power to create that next thing and then
Speaker 8: hold it so these industry people don't try to put
Speaker 8: their grubby hands on trying to make it like a
Speaker 8: you know, a viral thing or you know or whatever.
Speaker 8: It's partially our fault because we fell into the whole
Speaker 8: system and all we gotta do is change it.
Speaker 9: Period.
Speaker 2: Now with Bobby with so many hits, how many hits
Speaker 2: are you going to do?
Speaker 1: On stage?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man to the mic?
Speaker 3: And then because that's the time where everybody could take
Speaker 3: a break. You have so many records single like, how
Speaker 3: are you break.
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 12: And break.
Speaker 14: I don't, I don't know. It's up it's up to
Speaker 14: Brook and it's up to you know the guys. How
Speaker 14: much they want me on the stage, I don't. I
Speaker 14: don't plan to do no more than the next man.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 11: Okay, So for boys and men?
Speaker 18: How long did it take y'all to complete a whole
Speaker 18: song in the studio? Because you when I say when
Speaker 18: the song's be going off.
Speaker 13: You'd be like, no, no, no.
Speaker 11: I got some more.
Speaker 13: Specific with it.
Speaker 18: The Christmas album that I bumped all year round, christmaserversations. Wow,
Speaker 18: thank you, my favorite Creciate play all year round. I
Speaker 18: only did it take you all to complete a single song?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this. It took us two weeks
Speaker 1: to do the Christmas album.
Speaker 9: What that's all the time?
Speaker 1: We had two weeks, that's all we had. And we
Speaker 1: recorded it in Europe, London, in London, yes, with Brian McKnight.
Speaker 5: We sat there because we were on tour. We were
Speaker 5: on tour in London, right, we had Yeah, we had
Speaker 5: to meet the deadline and we sat in there.
Speaker 1: Of course we wrote.
Speaker 5: Songs on the road, you know, like Sean would call
Speaker 5: me to his room. He had joyous song. I came
Speaker 5: up with why Christmas. Nate had a cold December nights,
Speaker 5: Mike did no, No, Michael's cold December.
Speaker 1: Nights, Nate had what was the record of Share Love,
Speaker 1: Share Love.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so the idea like literally, to to do
Speaker 5: a new standard Christmas album was It was grueling because
Speaker 5: we didn't have much time, but we wrote the hell
Speaker 5: out of that. Like every aspect of it was straight
Speaker 5: from the you know, the soul, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It was real, real moments. So we did and we
Speaker 5: didn't want to make it.
Speaker 1: All like you know, jingle bells, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We wanted to make it.
Speaker 5: We wanted to make it so that so that so
Speaker 5: that we could feel it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: so that you could actually play that John straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, once you you know, once the
Speaker 5: standards come and play, you know, of course you can
Speaker 5: make choices, but when you have new Christmas records that
Speaker 5: people fall in love with, that's the only choice.
Speaker 1: That's why we decided not to make another one.
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, I want you please, but if y'all don't
Speaker 18: need to, because that that's one of my favorite albums.
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 11: Why did you kill give Love on Christmas Daily?
Speaker 18: Because that's my favorite Christmas song, Like y'all was singing
Speaker 18: these Christmas songs like women were leaving y'alls.
Speaker 1: Because they were.
Speaker 13: That's all I had to give.
Speaker 14: I didn't have money back then, all I have with
Speaker 14: loved offer.
Speaker 19: What is it like for y'all when y'all are on
Speaker 19: stages and doing the different things that y'all are doing,
Speaker 19: and you run into people like Jess who are still
Speaker 19: filling the music's impactfully, but also different generations and things
Speaker 19: are being recreated TikTok and all these different places.
Speaker 9: It's the biggest compliment ever.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the fact that these songs out are older than
Speaker 8: some of our kids and people are still enjoying them,
Speaker 8: and it just it is proof positive of I guess
Speaker 8: the work that we put in and the type of
Speaker 8: music that'll last way after we're gone Again.
Speaker 9: What Ralph was.
Speaker 8: Saying is we do this for the love. We did
Speaker 8: it for the love, and we continue to do this
Speaker 8: for the love. I mean, it's nice that we get
Speaker 8: paid well for it, but ultimately, what you're going to
Speaker 8: see and what people are going to witness on stage
Speaker 8: is love.
Speaker 13: Why we do what we do.
Speaker 8: And I wanted to touch too about how the fact
Speaker 8: that the industry is made not reaching back to history uncool.
Speaker 8: It's like when I see a lot of young kids
Speaker 8: like talking, they talk about that's that.
Speaker 9: Old shit it, yeah, but that's that good ship.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: The the reason why songs last as long as they
Speaker 8: do is because it just like Ricky even mentioned, like
Speaker 8: they're idols, were the Jacksons and Blue Magic and the stylistics,
Speaker 8: like you got to reach back to history to understand
Speaker 8: how to move forward in the future. And the bottom
Speaker 8: line is that a lot of these kids don't understand
Speaker 8: what was, which is why the sound of it And
Speaker 8: let's be honest, because y'all radio folks, y'all know the
Speaker 8: sound quality is different. Y'all know it don't hit here.
Speaker 8: It's just a bunch of sonics. It's just a bunch
Speaker 8: of drums and sound effects.
Speaker 2: Change a lot.
Speaker 3: Right when I do R and B parties, right, y'all
Speaker 3: records ring like newer records even more to the point
Speaker 3: where it's like I'm watching people do the dance and.
Speaker 2: This is festival.
Speaker 3: So it's like with different groups. I would say with y'all,
Speaker 3: definitely Mary J. Blige, it hits different because those songs
Speaker 3: keep going and these are younger kids. He could be
Speaker 3: twenty one year olds, These could be nineteen year olds
Speaker 3: in college when we do these parties.
Speaker 2: But it's still hits that make me happy.
Speaker 8: What the kids say about low frequency like a lot
Speaker 8: of the songs, unfortunately not all of them, but a
Speaker 8: lot of the songs have very low frequency. It's the
Speaker 8: reason why these songs that we've done for the past
Speaker 8: what forty years, fellas like in somemods, you know, but
Speaker 8: that they still ring true because again it still has
Speaker 8: that thick analog feel to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 18: Something right now in twenty twelve, my baby father played
Speaker 18: me mister telephone man.
Speaker 11: That's how I got a baby right.
Speaker 14: Now, mister telephone Damn if it was that easy.
Speaker 19: So you talked about you talked about the not being
Speaker 19: cool to throw back to like you know, legends and
Speaker 19: iconic moments and music. How much of the business has
Speaker 19: made it where that's why the kids are doing that
Speaker 19: and has it made it hard for you guys trying
Speaker 19: to do business because of that feeling?
Speaker 8: Well, first off, let me say just to answer the
Speaker 8: last part, our business is doing well. And this this
Speaker 8: is the crazy part too, that a lot of people
Speaker 8: don't get because we're not always on the front pages
Speaker 8: of certain websites and things that nature that they don't
Speaker 8: think that we're doing well.
Speaker 9: As you look around, you see everybody's skin glowing.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 13: On that note channel.
Speaker 12: We're good. Took them and see their numbers.
Speaker 8: And that's the thing is like the industry has got
Speaker 8: everybody so gassed to think that, Yo, if you're not
Speaker 8: on this this particular platform, then you're not doing well.
Speaker 8: And again this is this is proof positive. Like we're
Speaker 8: about to do Arenas thirty dates.
Speaker 9: I love it, We're fine.
Speaker 12: Let me.
Speaker 15: Again, let me say this like honestly, Envy, it means
Speaker 15: a lot to us when you're in New Orleans and
Speaker 15: you make that call twenty minutes before we hit the stage,
Speaker 15: sorry and say, BEV, leave me some tickets. He's always
Speaker 15: in the front, singing and stepping with us, and that
Speaker 15: means a lot. And I thought that was part of
Speaker 15: what you asked. What do we feel when we see y'all?
Speaker 15: It feels good, bro, because you're not being you know,
Speaker 15: the radio guy that got young. It being someone that
Speaker 15: enjoys the music. And that's probably why your tickets is
Speaker 15: always there.
Speaker 3: But this group is one that I see every time
Speaker 3: y'all in town, every time I'm in the town, because
Speaker 3: it gives me that feeling.
Speaker 2: I can see you once, I can see you twice.
Speaker 2: I know the dances.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: If somebody gets hurt, I can jump in for y'all.
Speaker 2: I don't think. My question is is there a song
Speaker 2: that you guys hate to do that? Like, I just
Speaker 2: don't want to do that song. Y'all looking at each other.
Speaker 2: I know what was one.
Speaker 1: And Still of the Night?
Speaker 13: I hate that song.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you why you hate it. So so, so
Speaker 5: we're in Salt Lake City, were and and uh, the
Speaker 5: record label. I'm sure BIF has something to do with
Speaker 5: this ship the record label and was like, yo, we
Speaker 5: need a record for the Jackson's Mini series, and we
Speaker 5: wanted to be in Instill in the Night.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 5: We could think of so many other records that we
Speaker 5: would have been excited to do, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: But they wanted in the Still of the Night. So okay,
Speaker 5: it's a very easy record, guys, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Of course, with our harmony structures, we kind of we
Speaker 5: kind of do it a little bit different because it's
Speaker 5: not the regular triad, but the issue is is nobody
Speaker 5: wanted to sing the lead.
Speaker 9: It was a day off weekend and we wanted to
Speaker 9: go snowmobill.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, exactly, so nobody wanted to sing the lead.
Speaker 1: So anything right, right?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, hell no, we don't want to sing
Speaker 1: the league because it's in the other night, right. So
Speaker 1: we flipped the coin.
Speaker 5: That's how we did every That's how we That's how
Speaker 5: we cleared every alter case, every situation.
Speaker 9: We would just want to slip the coin and nick
Speaker 9: one and we left.
Speaker 1: We left the studio. We left his ass right there.
Speaker 9: We left him and we did our parts and flipped
Speaker 9: the coin.
Speaker 13: And who was going to sing lead?
Speaker 9: Nate one?
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 16: I don't even remember, bro. I was so pissed off
Speaker 16: looking out the window snow cap mountains and ship.
Speaker 2: Hilarious that the additions to yeah, I want to know that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what's all y'all hate to do? I love doing
Speaker 9: if it is in love, but I don't like doing it.
Speaker 1: I don't because it's like, by the time you finish
Speaker 1: like this, you're like, I'm telling what you like.
Speaker 12: I don't like to do the dance.
Speaker 5: It's a real difficult I dig for me it would
Speaker 5: probably be You're not my kind of girl.
Speaker 13: What yeah, lyrics.
Speaker 1: It leans in on the dance side. This one move
Speaker 1: that we do what you know later on my ass.
Speaker 19: Hurts dance moves in like things you're not going to
Speaker 19: touch this time around one.
Speaker 10: We are definitely gonna I think we do want to
Speaker 10: give people a different experience. Like and B said, some
Speaker 10: of the classics stuff that people have come to know
Speaker 10: us for if it isn't love, maybe even you're not
Speaker 10: my kind of girl. Some of those things we're gonna
Speaker 10: keep in place. We might add some variances, but I
Speaker 10: think people want to see us do something new and
Speaker 10: fresh and different, and we're excited about the challenge of
Speaker 10: coming up with those things.
Speaker 1: For whether it's the poison.
Speaker 10: Breakdown or every little step you know, where people might
Speaker 10: understand in the aisles, like Mike said, they're anticipating the move,
Speaker 10: but we're gonna throw a curveball this time around, and
Speaker 10: that's what it's all about. I think the reason why
Speaker 10: we've been able to stand the test of time for
Speaker 10: forty plus years is because.
Speaker 1: We've always challenged ourselves.
Speaker 10: You know, we always really felt like we had to
Speaker 10: go deep because the bar was raised for us from
Speaker 10: some of the greats that we used to love to
Speaker 10: see and when they poured into us, I mean Lakeside.
Speaker 10: We would stand on the side of the stage every
Speaker 10: night when we were on tour with them, just taking
Speaker 10: that energy in. I remember time where my uncle would
Speaker 10: have a sit Indian style on the floor, you know,
Speaker 10: in a little meditation polls and he would play the
Speaker 10: Jackson's live album and he would tell us to close
Speaker 10: our eyes so we can ingest.
Speaker 1: You know what that was.
Speaker 10: And it's paid dividends. So we definitely want to give
Speaker 10: people a different experience.
Speaker 4: But you can't do everything that ballplayers get older, they
Speaker 4: even got to adjust their game, but they.
Speaker 12: Right, thank you.
Speaker 9: You gotta appreciate years.
Speaker 3: You gotta tell you gotta tell Brooke that because he
Speaker 3: ain't trying to hear that expect that they want the
Speaker 3: same look from twenty one.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, you try, that's what you tell you.
Speaker 14: Try Sometimes the Running Man just ran out.
Speaker 1: Night, the Walking Man.
Speaker 4: It's something that you all appreciate about each other than
Speaker 4: now that you probably took for granted back then.
Speaker 12: Matthew Ralph, Yeah.
Speaker 17: I think everybody's gifts, you know, I think back then
Speaker 17: we didn't realize how talented is. I don't think back
Speaker 17: in the days we realized how talented everybody really was
Speaker 17: and what they had to bring to the tablet had
Speaker 17: to offer. When we first started, we was trying to
Speaker 17: do like a mixture of the Jackson's Missed the Temptations.
Speaker 1: That was our idea of us. So everybody was supposed
Speaker 1: to have a role.
Speaker 17: When we came into the Candygirl album, it was more
Speaker 17: of this Jackson five ish vibe, which we would have
Speaker 17: switched it out the gate. It would have came in
Speaker 17: the gate a little bit more with everybody's talent talents
Speaker 17: being showcased out the gate. So I think that what
Speaker 17: I've learned is the brother how smart everybody is, how
Speaker 17: much they actually added to the table and brought to
Speaker 17: the table that you take for granted because everybody's.
Speaker 2: Supposed to do that part, which just taught you do
Speaker 2: your role.
Speaker 17: But then you look back later on, it'say, what if
Speaker 17: that he didn't know how to do that, or he
Speaker 17: didn't have that GIF, this might not have worked at all.
Speaker 1: That's what I've learned.
Speaker 17: I've learned that everybody's gifted, extremely smart and knows exactly
Speaker 17: what we're doing. It has gotten better over time and
Speaker 17: we're really a real brotherhood.
Speaker 12: What about y'all.
Speaker 5: I think that in the beginning of our career, we
Speaker 5: actually we were groomed, you know what I'm saying by
Speaker 5: great people. We had, you know, Michael Bivens, we had
Speaker 5: Kylil Rountree.
Speaker 1: We had.
Speaker 5: Jerl Busby, and a lot of the things that they
Speaker 5: were doing was cultivating what they already knew existed at
Speaker 5: some point it Mike would tell you, you know, they
Speaker 5: didn't know what to do with us because we weren't
Speaker 5: doing what everybody else was doing at the time. So,
Speaker 5: you know, when it came down to it, it was
Speaker 5: more so, you know, knowing what we were capable of vocally,
Speaker 5: because that's what the nucleus was. How good can we
Speaker 5: be with our harmonies? How can we set ourselves aside
Speaker 5: from the rest of the people that are singing at
Speaker 5: this time? And you know, I think that that was
Speaker 5: what we focused on more than anything. We didn't really
Speaker 5: get into the brotherhood until I guess things started going awry,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Because there's not a there's
Speaker 5: there's always levels to this, you know, it's ups and down.
Speaker 5: So when things started getting to a certain point, I
Speaker 5: think that's when we said, Okay, now we have to
Speaker 5: hold on to each other. Now we have to hold
Speaker 5: on to the brotherhood. And as you can see, we're
Speaker 5: lesser brother you know what I'm saying. Because when the
Speaker 5: chips are down, you know, it's that's a real thing,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Everybody has to stay as
Speaker 5: strong as you did in the beginning when you were
Speaker 5: doing it for nothing, you understand.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is.
Speaker 5: And then we just started realizing when things were at
Speaker 5: a certain level that we needed each other more than anything.
Speaker 5: We already knew what we were capable of, I mean,
Speaker 5: and we gave each other roles all the way from
Speaker 5: the beginning. I mean, there's always been the business guy,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Shawn's always been kind of
Speaker 5: like the the creative and the balance of it all.
Speaker 5: And I'm just a crazy motherfucker, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And and but them, because
Speaker 5: I have a responsibility to the integrity of my group,
Speaker 5: I had to.
Speaker 1: Bring that down. And that was because I had people
Speaker 1: like Brooke and.
Speaker 5: And you know they they saw it and in their
Speaker 5: in their realm, and they were like, Okay, let's let's
Speaker 5: bring him in. Let's let's draw bring him back so
Speaker 5: he don't end up in a in a different way,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And and no bullcrap, I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 5: My dude, the dude that saved my life in numerous
Speaker 5: instances that he don't he.
Speaker 1: Don't even remember. Is this guy right here you understand, yup?
Speaker 12: He has.
Speaker 5: And because Kyle used to say it all the time,
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna be like that motherfucker remember that name,
Speaker 5: I promise you, and be like that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I was like, but I love him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying Like that, and and and and it was.
Speaker 5: An unspoken connection until I met him and then he
Speaker 5: literally I will tell that story another time.
Speaker 1: But this guy right here, man has He's checked on
Speaker 1: me even when like he wasn't.
Speaker 5: In New addition, you know what I'm saying, he checked
Speaker 5: on me, like yo, dude, you in ATL I'm like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. What we're doing, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But that's the thought process. The thought
Speaker 5: process is everybody got us to a certain point. It
Speaker 5: was up to the ups and the downs, the struggles
Speaker 5: to create the nucleus that boys to men is right
Speaker 5: now that to know what we are all capable of,
Speaker 5: and we all play our roles perfectly, which is the
Speaker 5: reason why God is blessed us to be so successful
Speaker 5: at this.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to someone Ralph said, when
Speaker 4: you talked about, you know, leaning into everybody, leaning in
Speaker 4: everybody's talents earlier, when everybody broke off and had success
Speaker 4: outside in the audition, did y'all ever look at each
Speaker 4: other and be like, I didn't know they.
Speaker 12: Could do that, Like I didn't know BBD can do that.
Speaker 12: I ain't nobody told do that, not me.
Speaker 17: I was just static every time something blew off, when
Speaker 17: somebody was winning, I was ecstatic.
Speaker 1: I was at home like day go.
Speaker 17: That's Bobby was the dance entertainer, mastering our projects absolutely.
Speaker 17: You know, when we grew up, I just knew he
Speaker 17: was better than all of us at dancing and entertaining
Speaker 17: and just just being live.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He was that dude, and so not the world.
Speaker 17: The world not being able to see that as a
Speaker 17: part of our group, there was a big dynamic missing
Speaker 17: it so when he's when he stepped out and he
Speaker 17: did it, it's like, yes, they get to see that
Speaker 17: we have that in us too, because it was a
Speaker 17: lot of stuff that was becoming real candy girl, real
Speaker 17: them boys is real soft or this.
Speaker 12: Bubble gum and we don't get bubble gum.
Speaker 1: And so you don't you don't hate it, but you
Speaker 1: don't like it either.
Speaker 17: So having another body, and when BBD started representing and
Speaker 17: Bobby started representing, Johnny's in the group. Now he's doing
Speaker 17: his thing with his grown master. He's just turning everything
Speaker 17: to what we I really knew what we had and
Speaker 17: letting the world see it. So for me, it was
Speaker 17: just finally the world's getting a chance to see what.
Speaker 1: Were really made out of.
Speaker 8: Ralph, let me let me, let me give you all
Speaker 8: y'all flowers and say that this has been no group,
Speaker 8: white or black, that is done what New Audition has
Speaker 8: done ever, not to me, not for us. There's never
Speaker 8: been a group alive, past, present, or probably future, that
Speaker 8: has been a group broke up, all went platinum, came
Speaker 8: back again and went platinum again.
Speaker 9: Only one literally, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 8: So I just want to just put that out there,
Speaker 8: like They've done something that is unprecedented, and.
Speaker 1: The only way that that could possibly happen is if
Speaker 1: we make it happen. We can help.
Speaker 5: If we can help a group get to that point,
Speaker 5: then that's the only way. They have to follow the blueprint.
Speaker 5: If they're not going to follow the blue blueprint, then
Speaker 5: it's it's not possible.
Speaker 9: You can't be successful without following what we've done exactly.
Speaker 11: And speaking of that, one more big boy too low time.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love them, Thank you for them.
Speaker 11: I mean, we're talk about them. Boy got the voice.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I am so ready to tap in.
Speaker 5: And you know, God blessed them definitely, and they're passionate
Speaker 5: about it. And with with different opportunities that come my way,
Speaker 5: I'm going to definitely make sure that you know, we
Speaker 5: we we tap in.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh man, thank you so much.
Speaker 10: When you think about some of the things that allow
Speaker 10: you to be successful, you know is discipline, and they
Speaker 10: do and they do.
Speaker 2: On top of the discipline, you have to have consistence.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. It's something that we.
Speaker 10: Had, as Rick said, early in our career before the
Speaker 10: opportunity presented itself.
Speaker 2: You know, we were prepared because of the consistent consistency.
Speaker 1: Time, rehearse, rehearse, reheard.
Speaker 10: We see them putting their videos out and make sure
Speaker 10: that they're staying consistent, working on their craft.
Speaker 13: You know that they have to have to get to.
Speaker 1: Touch thee. Yeah, we're going to be on. We got
Speaker 1: to definitely make oh Man.
Speaker 13: Come on, you know what to Charlamagne.
Speaker 15: Like, there's quiet storms in our group and you guys
Speaker 15: just really get to hear the music, send the concept.
Speaker 15: You don't get to get on the conference calls where
Speaker 15: this shit really goes down. He don't come in the
Speaker 15: dressing room where this shit really goes down. But I
Speaker 15: would just say this and Rizzo, you know, he's always
Speaker 15: gonna say it so eloquently because that's how he speaks.
Speaker 15: But you know, Ralph's important. When he shows up to
Speaker 15: do the show. It gives us a sense of strength.
Speaker 15: When he walks through the door. It's like Brady coming
Speaker 15: through the door.
Speaker 13: Yes, it is what it is.
Speaker 15: And you know when Bob is hurting or his leg
Speaker 15: and he's just like, fuck it, let's go. I'll just
Speaker 15: stand over here. He's like, basically, I can't do that shit,
Speaker 15: but I'm gonna rock this bicrophone and that means everything
Speaker 15: to the audience right when we're trying to make a decision.
Speaker 15: You know, Big Bro Johnny Gill, he's he's a heavy voice.
Speaker 13: In our group.
Speaker 15: You know, he's a he's older, he's wiser, he's not
Speaker 15: just a singer, but he's a leader by conversation, and
Speaker 15: he keeps us at a high standing. Just just some
Speaker 15: ship we not accepting, and that's just that. And in prayer,
Speaker 15: that's mister Ricky Bell. Whenever we need to hear a
Speaker 15: good kind word, he'll close the car. And that's so
Speaker 15: powerful to keep us together. And of course, you know
Speaker 15: Bro over there when he was speaking about the dance moves,
Speaker 15: it's because he makes us reach for excellence. And that's Ronnie.
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying. When we want to just
Speaker 15: go sit down and grab some water. Nah nah, let's
Speaker 15: go two more times. And you see that in his
Speaker 15: performance on stage. So I was just gonna say what
Speaker 15: makes us tight? What Ralph said is everyone brings something
Speaker 15: to the table, and I want to say it on
Speaker 15: the Breakfast Club because I don't know when we'll all
Speaker 15: be back here together.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Mike, let me get you before you finish.
Speaker 13: And Mike slaughter is the point. God thanks Zill.
Speaker 17: He hands the ball. Everywhere he carries the ball, he
Speaker 17: knows next play to make. He's thinking of the next
Speaker 17: play to make, and he knows who to deliver the
Speaker 17: ball to to make sure that we get we scored
Speaker 17: the basket.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We win the game.
Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks bro. And I want to say this because
Speaker 15: it ain't over. But because of this guy. You know,
Speaker 15: he's mature. When I met him, he was just ready
Speaker 15: to sponge get all the information. But if it wasn't
Speaker 15: for Nate Morris, I would have never been to CEO.
Speaker 15: He's seen something in me that I didn't see it myself.
Speaker 15: So I always wanted to tell him. I tell him
Speaker 15: in Texas, I tell him on the phone, but I'm
Speaker 15: gonna say it to the world.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 15: He changed my life. He helped me see something I
Speaker 15: didn't see. I was nineteen. I know my words in
Speaker 15: Curson was heavy, but that's because I loved y'all and
Speaker 15: I wanted y'all to be the best, and I just
Speaker 15: wanted to.
Speaker 13: Stop.
Speaker 9: Come on, let me finish, let me finish.
Speaker 1: What did you see what.
Speaker 9: I mean?
Speaker 16: I just it just seemed like from the outside looking
Speaker 16: and you gotta remember we we weren't in the industry
Speaker 16: at the time, but you know, from the outside looking in,
Speaker 16: I saw what what Ralph just said, you know what
Speaker 16: I'm saying. It just felt like he was a guy
Speaker 16: that kind of held the group together. He had, you know,
Speaker 16: put everybody in different positions, and at that point, I
Speaker 16: felt like, you know, it's a group that we look
Speaker 16: up to. I mean honestly, and I mean I've never
Speaker 16: never told Mike, but I mean he did.
Speaker 1: He was. He was my first hero in the music industry.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty much what it was.
Speaker 16: So for me, it was like, if if he can
Speaker 16: do that for them, you got to be able to
Speaker 16: do it for us.
Speaker 12: And that's crazy. Like I said, I just idea.
Speaker 1: I thought there was going to be real quick, but.
Speaker 13: Be able to.
Speaker 16: Here's the deal, We're gonna have our conversation. We ain't straight,
Speaker 16: but we know we ain't straight, but we all know
Speaker 16: we're gonna go get this money. We're gonna please these fans,
Speaker 16: and we're gonna figure out what we gotta do. Either
Speaker 16: we're gonna fix it or not, but we all gonna
Speaker 16: go out here and do what we that's a smarter move.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, let me ask the question, Biff, if you
Speaker 4: could go back and renegotiate that first deal with boys
Speaker 4: and men with everything you know, now, what would.
Speaker 12: You do differently.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a good question.
Speaker 15: So honestly, I think some of those deals was something
Speaker 15: that Gerald suggested. See he's the one that said be
Speaker 15: an executive. He said do a production, do publishing do
Speaker 15: or I didn't even think like that, you know what
Speaker 15: I mean? And it's the same choking. He was totally
Speaker 15: against it. He didn't really like boys to men, you know,
Speaker 15: so I'm fighting for them to be heard and to
Speaker 15: be seen. He helps him destructure stuff, and I thought
Speaker 15: that it was a it was a gamble. And the
Speaker 15: thing is like, we never had a lawyer sit in
Speaker 15: the room with us when we signed.
Speaker 1: It was just us.
Speaker 12: And them.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and we went through the paperwork and we just
Speaker 15: did it. The good thing about it is it was successful, right,
Speaker 15: and the record label, honestly, the record label needed a
Speaker 15: hit to keep the lights song that we mother fucking
Speaker 15: kept the light song right. We were thinking about it
Speaker 15: right and then sold So to think to think the
Speaker 15: thing is just even in all of that. What was
Speaker 15: the easier way to do it was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 15: Now remember, and their fifty is for them. In my fifty,
Speaker 15: there's one. And so a lot of the stuff that might,
Speaker 15: you know, look a little different later, it's through success.
Speaker 13: So a lot of that stuff there.
Speaker 15: Might have been the things that made it look a
Speaker 15: little crazy, made it feel a little different.
Speaker 13: But I was crazy.
Speaker 15: Yeah, But at the end of the day, what was
Speaker 15: able to come out of.
Speaker 13: It and what was able to do. We didn't fail,
Speaker 13: or we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, Mike and the fall that was
Speaker 6: Joe was your mentor. And just like what you know
Speaker 6: we were talking about earlier about the other guys talking
Speaker 6: about us being their mentors. And it's so funny because
Speaker 6: when you influence or you're being taught the game, you're
Speaker 6: rocking with the game. You're rocking with it, and you're
Speaker 6: learning as you go. But I can say this in
Speaker 6: a nutshell Listen, we all have been through a journey,
Speaker 6: been through some ups and downs and changes and turnarounds
Speaker 6: in our lives. And when you look at where we
Speaker 6: are today, we're blessed. We're all blessed and guess what,
Speaker 6: so what we had to go through to get here.
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, here, I'm not mad
Speaker 6: at anybody because this is like looking at God and
Speaker 6: smacking them in the face, because you're saying, I'm mad
Speaker 6: that you took me through this to get here.
Speaker 9: Towards riving today, I'm grateful.
Speaker 6: And nobody has walked the road and that has been easy,
Speaker 6: and that has been just that simple. It doesn't work
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree totally.
Speaker 5: I agree, Johnny, But you know, under the circumstances as
Speaker 5: human beings, you know what I mean, emotions, emotions, me
Speaker 5: and everything. As human beings, you know, you have thought process.
Speaker 5: We have to respect the human in each other because
Speaker 5: it might be easier for some people to get over
Speaker 5: things than others, you know what I'm saying. Like for me,
Speaker 5: you know, my getting over it is very simple. I
Speaker 5: was the youngest and I lived in the projects. This
Speaker 5: man saved my life. You understand, he gave me an
Speaker 5: opportunity by the grace of God. God saved my life
Speaker 5: through BIV. He gave us the opportunity. So in my mind,
Speaker 5: he did what he was supposed to do for me.
Speaker 5: It was up to me to go the next to
Speaker 5: the next place. It was up to us to do that,
Speaker 5: and we did. You know what I mean, under the
Speaker 5: circumstance of forgiveness and all of those things. A communication
Speaker 5: is everything, you know what I mean, And it does
Speaker 5: not take away from the fact that you guys are
Speaker 5: our heroes, our mentors.
Speaker 1: You understand that way.
Speaker 16: And again, like I said, I don't I don't speak
Speaker 16: much because I only want to speak about stuff that matters.
Speaker 16: But in this case, like I said, you know, we've
Speaker 16: been able to be where being the nucleus that we've
Speaker 16: been for the last few years, and like Wan said,
Speaker 16: we all just got into the room together for the
Speaker 16: first time in a long time. And that's the feat
Speaker 16: in itself. I would say, even with with whatever it
Speaker 16: might be, whatever will handle or deal with whatever, it's
Speaker 16: a feat in itself.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of groups.
Speaker 16: Out here today that you know, get emotional about things
Speaker 16: and don't know how to handle business correctly, right and
Speaker 16: the kids. You handle business first, and then you handle
Speaker 16: your family stuff in the back room and not on
Speaker 16: the internet in the media. So that being said, again,
Speaker 16: it ain't nothing but love in this room. Whatever else
Speaker 16: we're gonna deal with We'll deal with deal with us.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the fact that your guys are
Speaker 3: coming together right because you'll all had individual.
Speaker 2: Battles in the press and the public, in the croup
Speaker 2: and all that.
Speaker 3: But the fact that you look at how many you know,
Speaker 3: even rappers and R and B singers on this wall,
Speaker 3: let's no longer head you know what I mean, the
Speaker 3: fact that there'd have been so many should have or
Speaker 3: could have or dann that would have been dope. Y'all
Speaker 3: are actually pulling it off like that could have been.
Speaker 3: It's going to happen on this tour. That's why this
Speaker 3: is important to see that two amazing groups that can
Speaker 3: really sing and can dance, Well say y'all can, but
Speaker 3: singing dance to pull off this show is amazing. And
Speaker 3: it ain't a small Beacon theater. No disrespect to becing theater,
Speaker 3: y'all doing arenas So for that, we applause y'all. And
Speaker 3: I know I'm so excited to see multiple dates and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on the side of the stage just
Speaker 3: the case one of the members ain't there.
Speaker 1: I know, both groups.
Speaker 3: If y'all name your uniform, because it's about to be
Speaker 3: reverse racism because I don't see that many light skin.
Speaker 12: That's why it was so successful.
Speaker 1: Ain't light Year?
Speaker 12: He ain't that lights Year?
Speaker 20: Ronnie, my wife says, Peanut Butter, are y'all helping bois
Speaker 20: and men develop their biopic?
Speaker 12: I remember there was rumors of a boys men bio pick.
Speaker 1: To see that.
Speaker 8: I mean, we're still in the embryonic stages of it,
Speaker 8: still trying to get things together because we want to
Speaker 8: make sure that the story is told the right way,
Speaker 8: because there are a lot of things that, by design,
Speaker 8: we have not said. You know, there's been a lot
Speaker 8: of things that's been mentioned about the group and said
Speaker 8: about the groups and things that nature that we just
Speaker 8: kind of watched the last thing kept quiet, you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, because you know, it's it's funny how
Speaker 8: certain people in the industry tend to think that they
Speaker 8: could score points on us because maybe we don't because
Speaker 8: oh Jesus Christ, I won't gonna say now, but but
Speaker 8: my point, my point is that a lot of people
Speaker 8: tend to try to score points on us because we're
Speaker 8: not affiliated with a gang, or we wouldn't roll up
Speaker 8: on somebody because.
Speaker 6: We don't say that.
Speaker 8: We keep it quiet busy because and a lot of
Speaker 8: the things that that are said. It's hilarious to us,
Speaker 8: especially because when you see the people that are actually
Speaker 8: saying it, you gotta always consider the source, right, and
Speaker 8: when and when you see their positions and the lives
Speaker 8: they're living and things that nature outside of all of
Speaker 8: the shock value of oh, somebody said this, If you
Speaker 8: look a little deeper, you say, oh, okay, that's why
Speaker 8: they said that.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: The thing about the industry, though, is that everybody knows
Speaker 8: everything about everybody.
Speaker 1: If I wanted.
Speaker 8: To come on this this radio show and talk about
Speaker 8: certain people, I know I could because I know exactly
Speaker 8: what happened, who did it?
Speaker 9: The whole nine yards.
Speaker 2: People, You.
Speaker 15: Know, is we're in the error where you could just
Speaker 15: reply with your fingers, right, say what you say. You
Speaker 15: can tell someone meet me at such and such whatever, right,
Speaker 15: But you gotta look at it this way. Within the
Speaker 15: nine of us, I'm sure all of us have been
Speaker 15: through something and learn something. And I would say this
Speaker 15: sitting next to Bob, he might have some of the
Speaker 15: toughest skin I've ever seen any individual hats and the
Speaker 15: one thing I never.
Speaker 13: Seen up though, but I was gonna hold on, hold on,
Speaker 13: hold on, hold.
Speaker 15: On, this gonna say this, but I've never seen Bob
Speaker 15: really wild out the way you may say it. I'm
Speaker 15: just saying I hear people say ship to Bob to me,
Speaker 15: and I say to myself, I like the way he
Speaker 15: carries himself and sometimes you gotta pop off. But I'm
Speaker 15: just saying, the skin is deep, and we got that
Speaker 15: somebody in our group. That is what you're talking to.
Speaker 13: The ship.
Speaker 15: The ship he got to hear when he's sitting on
Speaker 15: with his kids. That ship just don't go to the soul.
Speaker 15: And as brothers, we we check somebody when we're around
Speaker 15: someone and say no, no, no, no, no no, nigga,
Speaker 15: you can't do that. We're not gonna do that, and
Speaker 15: you're supposed to do that if he.
Speaker 1: But see, the issue, the issue is not us though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's the people.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Everyone has an opinion, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. They call it social media, but
Speaker 5: there's nothing social about it at all, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. The thought process about it is when someone
Speaker 5: says something about you, it's fine, especially if it's true.
Speaker 5: I don't care, but I'm tired of people lying about us.
Speaker 5: They lie about us, and we never say nothing. Well,
Speaker 5: I got a messed up knee, I got three schools
Speaker 5: in it, and I'm getting myself together. Before you go there,
Speaker 5: I want to give him an example of how we
Speaker 5: don't say anything like people been talking about our fourth
Speaker 5: member forever.
Speaker 16: Oh, y'all did this to him. Y'all kicked him out,
Speaker 16: he was sick. Y'all ain't give a shit about him.
Speaker 16: Y'all don't know the story. And that's okay because we
Speaker 16: keep that in. But I tell you one thing we've
Speaker 16: never done. We've never said anything about him until the
Speaker 16: latter years, to make sure that man, if he's not
Speaker 16: here and have a.
Speaker 1: Career, absolutely absolutely you don't do that.
Speaker 16: So we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't do that.
Speaker 16: That's not I mean, I'm the least social media guy
Speaker 16: on the planet. Yes, yes, no need for I don't
Speaker 16: live in that space, so it's no need to go
Speaker 16: in there and deal with all the craziness. So when
Speaker 16: someone is doing that and telling stories like literally fabricated stories,
Speaker 16: I feel like it's it's just felt like time, you know,
Speaker 16: time to defend the integrity of my group of my fellas. Myself,
Speaker 16: you know what I mean. And you know, look, I'm
Speaker 16: not gonna say boys to men. We was the cleanest
Speaker 16: niggas on the planet Earth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16: We did some stuff, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 16: lot of people.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm pretty sure we put some people off,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And right, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we were trying to protect our brand.
Speaker 1: We were trying to protect it. We didn't have Michael
Speaker 1: bibbins on over us anymore to protect us. We didn't
Speaker 1: have Kyle Lil Rountree he got murdered. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We were trying to figure out all kinds of things managerial.
Speaker 5: We have Michael Jackson and Prince telling us to know
Speaker 5: your worth and don't let nobody get over on you.
Speaker 5: You know, So we we developed a chip a chip.
Speaker 5: We started looking at everybody and like, oh, no, you're
Speaker 5: not going to do this to us. You're not going
Speaker 5: to do this to us. So when they hear our
Speaker 5: voices because we were so silent because everybody else was
Speaker 5: doing it for us, now we're assholes, you know, you understand,
Speaker 5: just because we're sitting in the studio and we're working
Speaker 5: on a project, does not mean that we're going to
Speaker 5: be consorting.
Speaker 1: That's not what boys to men do. When we're in
Speaker 1: the studio. We work.
Speaker 5: We don't have time to play games, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Because we have a We have to please
Speaker 5: these fans, you know, So when someone is saying, you
Speaker 5: know that we said something as specific about a friend
Speaker 5: of ours, come on, and.
Speaker 19: I saw you jump in the comments of the p
Speaker 19: and say what you said. But so why now even
Speaker 19: address that if you know it's not truly because.
Speaker 1: I got time. I got a messed up knee.
Speaker 13: I was sitting on the dam.
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the damn couch. I couldn't get up,
Speaker 1: I couldn't drive.
Speaker 5: I was watching cartoons and playing PlayStation and I saw
Speaker 5: that shit and I said, hmm, this will be fun.
Speaker 1: And guess what it was. It was very fun because
Speaker 1: I got a chance to let the people who really
Speaker 1: cared on that page know that it was a lie.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 5: You could choose to take it wherever you want. I'm
Speaker 5: just trying to figure out where it came from. I
Speaker 5: never said anything derogatory about Chili. If you read the
Speaker 5: comments I said I love those girls, I said, we
Speaker 5: have history together. I'm just trying to figure out what happened.
Speaker 5: I mean, we heard that Tian said, after the past
Speaker 5: of my thing, I ain't staying for this corny ass shit,
Speaker 5: corny ass show. That's what you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why, I love you. We love y'all.
Speaker 5: Like the nostalgia when we walk into the room and
Speaker 5: they jump into our I mean, Chili used to jump
Speaker 5: into our arms.
Speaker 13: Lie, It's like, what's good.
Speaker 15: At the end of the day, we were just gonna
Speaker 15: sell some tickets because because to be honest with you,
Speaker 15: this where we are and what we're trying to do.
Speaker 13: Were trying to.
Speaker 1: Inspire absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 15: And you guys, this movie is gonna be a great movie.
Speaker 15: It's gonna be from your point of view. Your fans
Speaker 15: are gonna love it. And we just want them to
Speaker 15: come to this so they could see us together because
Speaker 15: we've never done this, absolutely, you know, and this this
Speaker 15: is really our first interview. So the Breakfast Club is
Speaker 15: really the first interview of us all together.
Speaker 6: Can I just say to you guys, to boys and man,
Speaker 6: let me just say this and I'll shut up. But
Speaker 6: I'm glad that you guys are telling your story because
Speaker 6: in the world that we're living in now with social
Speaker 6: media and everybody can get on here and say what
Speaker 6: they want, ruin people's lives, ruin your reputation, they can
Speaker 6: do a number of things. It is important. No, you
Speaker 6: can't fight the whole world. No, we'll never be able
Speaker 6: to change sometimes people no matter whether it's the truth
Speaker 6: or not.
Speaker 13: But when it.
Speaker 6: Comes from the horse's mouth and it's written in stone.
Speaker 1: It can't be raised.
Speaker 6: Can't tell you the story nothing else. At the end
Speaker 6: of the day, with your legacy, anybody want to believe,
Speaker 6: whether they want to believe, that's all. It's all well
Speaker 6: and fine, but it has come from the horses mouth
Speaker 6: directly in this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's so so the answer. Yes, we're working on
Speaker 8: the biopic. Bib is definitely gonna put his input into it,
Speaker 8: and work is.
Speaker 5: Going to have you know what I'm saying, because it's
Speaker 5: everybody's story, everybody every it's everybody's story.
Speaker 8: But the stuff they want and everybody was touching on
Speaker 8: man and people that were saying they corny the cornball, I'm.
Speaker 11: Like, none of that ship.
Speaker 1: Hey, he don't Internet, he don't he internet. He on
Speaker 1: social media all feel I live in the real world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 16: I don't know none of those people. I tell my son,
Speaker 16: if you might just open the front door and just
Speaker 16: let everybody walk in the house.
Speaker 2: How many fights did you get into on tour when
Speaker 2: people try to play?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people always try to play an R and
Speaker 3: B artist like you always think of RMB artist a
Speaker 3: soft bubble.
Speaker 2: But how many times you got to throw somebody around,
Speaker 2: move some purture, you know what?
Speaker 16: They They try to talk to me like, yo, bro,
Speaker 16: it ain't worth it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, so, I mean it's not a lot, but.
Speaker 13: Oh it's not a lot.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, ship man, some people I think.
Speaker 17: They getting twisted this difference between R and B and
Speaker 17: some other genres.
Speaker 12: The greatest.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 16: Because we speak peace.
Speaker 1: People think we can't throw.
Speaker 9: No joke the bow ties for you.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: It's one of those things where it's like.
Speaker 8: We never had this braggadocious bravado, like you know, walking
Speaker 8: around like tough guys because we have to because we.
Speaker 1: Sing love songs. Why you're mad at us? We say love.
Speaker 1: That's how we do.
Speaker 9: Don't you don't get it twisted?
Speaker 13: And I mean, it's the shame.
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 16: I think it's the same vibe with new addition though,
Speaker 16: because people was like calling him you know, popcorn but
Speaker 16: you know or Parka Popcorn.
Speaker 1: Saying I've been there, I've been there.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Johnny and Bobby go at people and call people like
Speaker 2: what you say about me?
Speaker 11: I'm laying.
Speaker 4: Now they used to play with Johnny.
Speaker 13: I got issues.
Speaker 6: Listen, I'll talk about God in a minute, but I'll
Speaker 6: kick your ass in the next. And then I turned
Speaker 6: around and asking for forgive this ship.
Speaker 9: Not get off, leave us issues, let us love.
Speaker 12: One last question, if the if, the.
Speaker 4: If the early nineties version of y'all could see this
Speaker 4: reunion now, I could see this tour, now, what do
Speaker 4: you think anything?
Speaker 1: It's long over, dude. I think it would have been different.
Speaker 8: It would have been I think it would have actually
Speaker 8: catapulted both groups to another stage because of the synergy
Speaker 8: and because of the importance of it. But again, we
Speaker 8: we we live in a God's timing, and the bottom
Speaker 8: line is it was supposed to happen now at this moment.
Speaker 8: We're older, we're wiser. We understand not just each other,
Speaker 8: but we understand each other's places in our lives. We
Speaker 8: know that by osmosis, we're connected. And again, branch, we
Speaker 8: have branded a tree.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: And again let's let's get it twisted. We will always
Speaker 9: pay homage.
Speaker 8: To these guys, you know what I'm saying for and
Speaker 8: thankful for what these guys have done for us. And
Speaker 8: this is our way of telling that story in an
Speaker 8: entertaining way. But two and a half three hours, like
Speaker 8: Ron said, We're gonna give you guys our story and
Speaker 8: and have the best time ever.
Speaker 12: I know, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Get your tickets. If you haven't got your tickets yet,
Speaker 3: don't be trying to me because you can't.
Speaker 6: And I have an announcement. Hell now, I'm not giving
Speaker 6: away no free tickets. I did that two tours, and
Speaker 6: every time I did that, it's not showing up. And
Speaker 6: I'm spending all this money. Some show up something. Listen,
Speaker 6: this is no a no comp tour.
Speaker 9: No, I'm not giving away.
Speaker 1: I'm done tickets.
Speaker 2: If you haven't got your tickets, and and I can't wait.
Speaker 12: What with the ticket sale we know.
Speaker 15: What pre sale yesterday, talking to your main thing, talking Friday,
Speaker 15: pre sale Tuesday.
Speaker 2: But the main thing is Friday, Friday, Friday, on sale Friday.
Speaker 2: Get you with.
Speaker 3: They're talking about thirty thirty. I'm sure it's gonna be
Speaker 3: more than that because they have to ask. Yeah, sell
Speaker 3: out so fast.
Speaker 12: I'm just having grown folks got something to do.
Speaker 13: Man, it's gonna be man.
Speaker 2: No audition boys to man. Thank y'all for joining us having.
Speaker 12: That's what I meant, Why Tony, Why why did y'all
Speaker 12: decide to get to them?
Speaker 9: We needed a queen and I thought that honestly, she
Speaker 9: was to me.
Speaker 1: I thought was a great, great part. It could be
Speaker 1: a great part of this.
Speaker 6: This this the whole movie, because it's about when you're
Speaker 6: doing a show like this, you want catalog, you want
Speaker 6: everything to be able to fit perfectly.
Speaker 1: And I think that she just fits for the for
Speaker 1: the first choice. Yes, she was my first choice.
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, that conference call was different, but she's there.
Speaker 19: Yeah, you'll made the call to her personally, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 13: You did? I talked to her directly?
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, thank you because I'm happy I'm going
Speaker 11: to be seeing her.
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Every day. A week ago up the Breakfast Club