WEBVTT - OMG: It's Brian Austin Green!

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<v Speaker 1>It's nine O Gen one O Engine with Jenny Garth

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<v Speaker 1>and Tory Spelling. We are here. Oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys welcome to another episode of nine oh two one

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<v Speaker 1>oh MG. And you guys are gonna omg right about now,

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<v Speaker 1>because get ready for it. We have a guest host today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you just speak and then they'll know who

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's me, Tory spelling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that was terrible. It's it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Brian Green with this today. This is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in co hosting, filling in for Tory.

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<v Speaker 1>You're filling in for Tory, which is so nice of you.

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<v Speaker 1>We have never had you on the pod so well.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's funny is I was sent an episode to

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<v Speaker 2>watch last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I realized as I was watching through it,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never watched a full episode of the show before.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a digital remaster of the show? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>know that those just released?

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<v Speaker 1>No, those are from Darren? Is that from Darren Mark? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he sent the stick and we're able to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much easier because some of the episodes are hidden,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are not on this platform or that

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<v Speaker 1>platform for whatever reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked how good it looked. I know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, it looks like aside from the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>it's like square format, which is odd to see, it

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<v Speaker 2>looked really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, it's odd to see square format because the TVs

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<v Speaker 1>used to be square.

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<v Speaker 2>What they did? Yeah, because the TVs were square? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, when did they become rectangles?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what's you You missed that time. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the end. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the nineties when it started. Really when a

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<v Speaker 2>HD came up. HD is the by ten forty format,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's all of a sudden, that's why you have

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<v Speaker 2>like the wide screen everything now. So yeah, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to be square and our show fit on a square

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<v Speaker 2>square screen. Oh mab so any of the old shows

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<v Speaker 2>that you watch, not just of nine O, two, one zero,

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<v Speaker 2>but of anything, they're all square.

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<v Speaker 1>To look at that little lesson technology lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. See that's why I'm here. That's that male energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the male energy is in the house today, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm so glad that I I yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little busy at the end of the nineties. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but I miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so busy. I literally never watched our show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's great, here's watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was going like there were storylines where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, get out of here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kelly being pregnant and the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>All the thing about this podcast is that Toy and

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<v Speaker 1>I had never watched it back and now we've watched

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<v Speaker 1>every single episode and it's been mind blowing and like

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<v Speaker 1>so cathartic.

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<v Speaker 2>In good way. Yes, and it really it's been. I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching that episode, Oh my god, the choices that

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<v Speaker 2>I made and what was I doing with my hair?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Did my shirt fit that way? Like I was picking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's what happens. But then you kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>sucked in. So the more you watch, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>don't even see those.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm way too I'm way too narcissistic.

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<v Speaker 1>To get something so vain. So I think the song

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<v Speaker 1>this show is about you, but it really is. So Okay, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so happy you're here. Today. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to recap the heck out of this show, you and me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about season seven, episode twenty nine. Mother's Day

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<v Speaker 1>aired Day seventh, nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>They sent me the right episode that would have sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>No you, I heard you say, this is the right one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead give me that snops.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. First of all, can I just say how great

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<v Speaker 2>it was seeing Joey Tata Kathleen in the opening credits.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, that's so. It's so cool because

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<v Speaker 2>like it automatically brought me back to the time period

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<v Speaker 2>when we were doing it, and I remember it was

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting when it was like, oh, NAT's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the opening. Yeah, very it was very joined

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<v Speaker 2>the kids and my my buddy Corn was in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ornemic here he was on the show. Quirky.

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<v Speaker 1>Quirky, Yeah, quirky. But it's good. I think it's appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>that he changed his name to korn. I well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean is just a little yeah, I mean for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy his age now is.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of like when people change from like Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Joey Lawrence changed to Joe Lawrence. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>you're known as Joey. I don't know, Like it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did his podcast and I kept calling him

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<v Speaker 2>by his name and I was like, dude, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>help it, Like I you're Joe, it happened, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, of course, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to read the synopsis or shall I you? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an oive mother's day. Kelly is positively freaking out

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<v Speaker 1>when ant flow doesn't come as planned, but Brandon Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>takes the news like a man. Valerie plots a pea

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<v Speaker 1>pad scheme that's a real stinker. Of course. Donna and

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<v Speaker 1>David fall hook line and sinker. Meanwhile, Steve finds out

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to take a lot more than fresh

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<v Speaker 1>air to fix his relationship with Claire. Directed by Chip Chalmers,

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<v Speaker 1>written by the beautiful Jessica Klein. This is our producers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, that was like on the DVDs in

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<v Speaker 2>the box sets.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, no, no, no, the producers of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Lorraine writes it to be specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she's the producers of our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, no, they have nothing to do with this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see here. What do we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about first? Which storyline do you want to jump into?

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<v Speaker 2>So well, let's let's let's try and I I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it in front of me. But let's try and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cover it in order, Okay, I think right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first the first thing we see, you see

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<v Speaker 2>is Kelly worried because she's six and a half days late, right,

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<v Speaker 2>six and a half. Yeah, I watched it this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you got the half in there. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I just thought she was a few days late.

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<v Speaker 1>But six and a half days. That's six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half day yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you make a point of saying, Okay, well now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm six and a half days late. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only reason that it's stuck out in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind because that was a that was a line.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, good, I'm so glad you were listening. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's late and she's freaking out. You know, this whole episode,

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, for me, was a very emotional, emotion full.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode for you, for Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>For me as a view a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>As a viewer, got okay, no, I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That there were so many great moments in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that you know, sometimes it doesn't all come together

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's kind of doing something else and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>like thread through the whole thing. But this with the

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<v Speaker 1>mother's day theme of it all and how that affected

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<v Speaker 1>the different characters in different ways, and I thought it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Yeah, it was. It was interesting for sure. There.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course, again as I said before, and watching it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm watching all the things going wait,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, the characters just came from this scene.

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<v Speaker 2>So why like, doesn't the continuity of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of the tension matched into the So I'm picking apart

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<v Speaker 2>all of the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love that about you because that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>do well, because we just know too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a job for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe sometimes we didn't do our job that great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would bet that I didn't do my job very

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<v Speaker 2>well like ninety eight percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would say like maybe one of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did love seeing our characters together in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved just the vulnerability of not just Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>with the pregnancy, but also Donna with her relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>also David. You were very vulnerable with the the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>evil twixting of val and that kind of Wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question because I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't watch any I haven't really seen any

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<v Speaker 2>of them as I said before, how did David end

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<v Speaker 2>up owning part of the After Dark? How? Like? How

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<v Speaker 2>did because you've seen up until this point, so he

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<v Speaker 2>how did he come into the money to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that happen? Because I was watching it going wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm just gonna guess because you know me, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You do this podcast. I know that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the episode and I'm like, wait, what happened

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<v Speaker 1>last season? No idea got it? Okay, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you got money from Grandma and Grandpa. You inherited some money,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you wanted to invest in the peach Pit

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<v Speaker 1>after Dark with Val? Were you guys boyfriend and girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>at that time? I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we must have been, because she then uses

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<v Speaker 2>that as a ploy to get me to buy her

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<v Speaker 2>out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this question in this one? Were

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<v Speaker 1>you Okay? So you guys dated in I r L Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What in? What? In? I r L Yeah? What does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>In real life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's one of those new fangled right L

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<v Speaker 2>O L I R yes, yes, sure?

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you guys date what do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>what years? Because I mean, that's a I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what when I dated who?

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<v Speaker 2>But so we were actually dated. When when did she

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<v Speaker 2>first come on? Season five?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the fun part about show. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me all these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're not going to know any of the answers. No, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to this very special episode, this very special elderly

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<v Speaker 2>like dementia.

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<v Speaker 1>Our listeners know that I have a terrible memory. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not lying, and they know that this happens to every people.

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<v Speaker 2>With horrible short term memory, and those and the swabs

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of COVID, those long ones didn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna yeah, oops, yeah, those were We'd

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<v Speaker 2>get to the end and I'd be like, did I

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<v Speaker 2>eat breakfast this morning? I don't remember it all You

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<v Speaker 2>you just scrubbed it all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys did when she came on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're so we were already dating when she came

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You were already dating, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we had broken up by the point when

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<v Speaker 2>we were.

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<v Speaker 1>Dating on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh yeah, that's the that's the really fun like

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<v Speaker 2>you know that moment. Yeah, it was like Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've broken up, and now you're playing romantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Because in the beginning she was playing love interests with

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, how was that. I talked about it before.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, I can imagine I.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that was my first relationship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys, were you like lived together ish shung.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we did live together. She lived in my house.

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<v Speaker 2>And how old were years?

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen?

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<v Speaker 2>I was seventeen or eighteen when we started, when we

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<v Speaker 2>started actually dating, playing adults. Yeah, it was like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very I remember. It was a big like

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<v Speaker 2>decision that I made and it was a big thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So then when we when we broke up,

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden they wrote the characters together,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that that was just their classic form of torture.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what twelve people don't know that the writers on

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<v Speaker 2>nine O two one Oh, I think liked to, like

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<v Speaker 2>in the closet torture us a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds really inappropriate, but.

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<v Speaker 2>They would give us storylines where it was like really

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<v Speaker 2>rough for us, and everybody else was like this is

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<v Speaker 2>a great storyline. It was like, nah, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>little too on the on the head for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always knew that there was that you are

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with her, with all the other love interests. But

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<v Speaker 1>then to be broken was the crazy Did you do

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<v Speaker 1>anything crazy ever in like a fit of rage? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like el Zeno, did you ever like lose your ship?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever did in el Zeno ever, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I've ever known anybody in life that pulled

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<v Speaker 2>in el Zeno the way iron.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about that. We laugh about that because guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you're listening, maybe you want to explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Oh god, el Zeno was to come in that

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<v Speaker 2>morning and to see the carnage of the hallway and

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<v Speaker 2>the chair sticking out of the wall, and the mailboxes

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<v Speaker 2>in the front, like you could tell they were crooked,

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<v Speaker 2>so somebody tried ripping them down, Like were you like

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<v Speaker 2>window was broken on the front. Yeah. I remember walking

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<v Speaker 2>through going what.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anybody but tell you what had happened? Or they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>uh no.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until I walked back in the front I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why is there a chair sticking out of

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<v Speaker 2>the all in the ladies room and and they I

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<v Speaker 2>remember we had one of the red rolling lights and

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<v Speaker 2>that was just completely destroyed on the on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like, oh yeah, I didn't like. He

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<v Speaker 2>watched the episode last night and some stuff was edited

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<v Speaker 2>out that he was really proud of. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a big day.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big day.

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<v Speaker 1>But we, of course, because we're family, just liked to

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<v Speaker 1>continually give him shit about that for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his life.

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<v Speaker 2>We coined El Zeno because that was during El Nino.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a big like storm, right, Yes, for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that was a big That was a big storm.

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<v Speaker 2>They came out of out of Mexico, out of the

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<v Speaker 2>coast there, so it was everything was like El Nino,

0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.800
<v Speaker 2>La Nina came in, so El Nino and then El

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<v Speaker 2>el Xeno.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. He probably hates it. He probably hates

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<v Speaker 1>it just as much as that picture that we always

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<v Speaker 1>loved to show, which she hates.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the one of him bending over going

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's cool. I okay, you know what I hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I did make a note of I

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<v Speaker 2>have I wrote, I've never seen hair move as little

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<v Speaker 2>as irons. He was driving a convertible and it never moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Very observant.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in the car driving and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he has short hair, even short hair though you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a convertible.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were driving in a convertible, if David was

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<v Speaker 1>driving in a convertible, your hair wouldn't move either.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reminded how much hair spray we used on that,

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<v Speaker 2>and how much Jelle I was using. That just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, you're telling me you can't watch it

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<v Speaker 1>and go back and appreciate that guy, that young man

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<v Speaker 1>and his charm and his good looks.

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<v Speaker 2>How were you when you first started doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I was at a real pivotal place in my

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<v Speaker 1>life where going back it was the right moment for

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<v Speaker 1>me to go back and embrace that person in such

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<v Speaker 1>a loving, gentle way. So normally I don't watch my work.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't enjoy watching my anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody else do that for me. Yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a whole different experience because now as a

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<v Speaker 1>grown woman and realizing you know what your past, how

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<v Speaker 1>it leads your life, and you know what things stick,

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<v Speaker 1>what things don't, what things really shaped you. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this show was a massive part of my upbringing and

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<v Speaker 1>all of our like you know, total like teenage, purely

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<v Speaker 1>like adolescent, all those really important developmental years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to not watch stuff when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger acting in it and not immediately be brought

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<v Speaker 2>back to what was going on in my life when

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing that. So like nine O two one oh,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, when I watch old episodes where I see

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<v Speaker 2>little things, it reminds, it takes me right back to

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately I'm like, oh my god, I was so

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<v Speaker 2>like I had zero self confidence. Like I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>remember being in the peach pit after dark set and

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<v Speaker 2>it being full of people, and I was so like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so stressed about how everybody perceived me in

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<v Speaker 2>what I was doing, and I would be I would

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<v Speaker 2>get so like incredibly embarrassed. And you know, normally as

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<v Speaker 2>an actor, like you try and get on a set

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<v Speaker 2>and you try and put all that away and go

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<v Speaker 2>it's a character. But the characters, those were us by

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<v Speaker 2>season seven, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we were seasoned enough as actors to

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<v Speaker 1>really be able to delienate that, you know, make the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And they we weren't written The characters weren't written differently.

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<v Speaker 2>They were written as us yeah, And I always say

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<v Speaker 2>the time, people like it was easier for me earlier

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<v Speaker 2>on in the show as an actor because they had

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<v Speaker 2>very clear like concepts in mind of what David Silvia

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved David Silver pilot episode, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My God, much so did I. And I got to say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I had way more self confidence playing an absolutely dopey

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<v Speaker 2>dude that every like everybody wanted to push out of

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<v Speaker 2>the web. Like I loved it. It was really fun,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would enjoy the reactions that I got from

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<v Speaker 2>from people on set in saying things and doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as soon as the character started becoming more

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<v Speaker 2>and more like me, and I started getting really self

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<v Speaker 2>conscious of like, oh my god, now people are viewing

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<v Speaker 2>David Silver, but it's such a combination of myself and

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<v Speaker 2>this character. Ooh. If they think something's dopey and ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>they think I'm dopey and ridiculous. So it was it

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<v Speaker 2>became harder and harder to separate and differentiate between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think at that time too, as young,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, people, we didn't have that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like sense of confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>We were seventeen when we started shooting, So from seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>You act like you were so much younger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was seventeen, wasn't I?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was?

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<v Speaker 2>Was I old than I am? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>How by how much?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, And I don't want to call it

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<v Speaker 2>out here because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty three. How old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fifty two, so you're one year older?

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, okay, one year older? Whoop do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one year older? Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you feel a difference though, age wise between Tory

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<v Speaker 2>and I and you? And no? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think because I was kind of in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could go both ways, you know, I didn't feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember our stuff was always super fun, but like I,

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt like you were way older than me

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what we played like. That was the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with the characters in the beginning, and again in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>they were such carved out.

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<v Speaker 1>Characters, very specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was like, oh, we hated each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kelly was horrified when David was around, and David

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, couldn't look past doubt. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>completely obsessed. And it was so much fun. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when we were shooting stuff and we would be

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<v Speaker 2>laughing at like how ridiculous it was, and we would

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<v Speaker 2>be coming up with these ridiculous ways of playing stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that just that gave way to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>this mundane Oh my god, we're playing versions of ourselves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how do how do you know? It was? It was

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<v Speaker 2>really hard differentiating. I remember by the time it ended,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I had started coming around and like finding

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<v Speaker 2>my self confidence again. But it was really it took

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, I watched the whole thing. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this young not you know boy coming off of a

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<v Speaker 1>big show. You had this confidence about you even though

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<v Speaker 1>you were the younger guy, and you were so comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in that place. And then I saw as you grew

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<v Speaker 1>up and you know, things changed for you personally, and

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<v Speaker 1>then work obviously changed because of it. Like I saw

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<v Speaker 1>all the growth in that period, and I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember like you coming back sort of like owning

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<v Speaker 1>your power and your voice and your position there. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the end, which was nice, Yeah, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all doing it. We were all trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all sort of found We went through a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was, I was thinking back to, like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember working in my studio at home with Dan and

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<v Speaker 2>like work on music and stuff, Like wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, oh yeah this is Dan. He's talking about my

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<v Speaker 1>first husband's husband, not legal, but first husband. I got

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<v Speaker 1>married to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I crazy. I sat in the studio we were

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<v Speaker 2>working on stuff because you had.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I ask you? I was like, can you help him?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, were you like, hey, let's jam buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no no, because we our styles were very different.

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>He was like alt rock and I was hip hop.

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you asked like, oh, can you guys work

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<v Speaker 2>on on some stuff? And I was like, I guess,

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 2>like we can try and combine the two. It never

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<v Speaker 2>went anywhere so trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks for trying. But it's just I mean, we

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>could talk a long time I think about because you

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never really sat down had a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>the impact that the show had on us in our development, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how that ended up for us now here today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to unpack there, which I I love.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a very special episode of.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right. So Kelly might be pregnant, Kelly might be pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Donna's a very good friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Donna's very good friend. I remember that there was the

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<v Speaker 2>scene where was it Donna that reached out to Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you need to get over here right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like panicked, And.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it was Kelly. I mean, Donna said

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you should call him, and then Kelly called him, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and because she just was like she needed some support

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jason was really good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really well, like really connected and it seemed like a

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<v Speaker 2>really loving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a champ, like you know. Of course,

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>she was nervous to tell him and terrified and completely

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 1>just out of her mind, and I think that really translated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that his reaction was written so beautifully

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's probably not the typical reaction from a guy

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>his he's twenty two, maybe sure, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it was I know I instantly fell back more whatever

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in love with Brandon and Jason in that moment because

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 1>he was so dear and kind and gentle, yeah, impatient.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was great. He was very just very mature

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>in the way that he handled it like it's It

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>was funny to watch because like I've always known, like, oh,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Brandon was this character that was sort of the moral

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 2>the morality of the show like he you know, Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>and Brenda were the two that like brought us back

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to what is right? So, like I remember when he

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>was gone, it was a little kind of like, okay.

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Now wait, Dad's gone.

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 2>What are we going to know? Who was that? Like? Yeah,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 2>now what are we going to do?

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he handled that really did well though. Like as

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.360
<v Speaker 2>an actor, I was, I really enjoyed watching the stuff

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>with Kelly and Brandon.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So this aired in nineteen ninety seven and we are

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>openly talking about teenage abortion. What other show was doing

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>that at this time? I mean maybe by this time

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>we had had other.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Late nineties, I think there were other.

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Shows life and different shows.

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Party of five was on. I think it was people

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 2>were starting to like really get into it.

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I never watched any of those shows. I don't know

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 1>if you did. I never had any time to watch TV.

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I did see a couple episodes of Party of Five.

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 2>That show was fantastic, Like they had really I remember

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Scott Wolf was dealing with alcoholism and drug abuse or

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>his character was, and it was like they did a

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 2>they brought everybody together and they started it was just

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>really well all handled this though, was really cool.

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I didn't feel like as a viewer,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I didn't know that this was coming. Like

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I you know, this whole storyline I never saw coming,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, whoa, Okay, we're going there. And

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I know that I Jenny was pregnant in real.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Life, so I could so I could tell that you

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 2>were hiding it in scenes. And when you came out

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>in the very beginning and you had like a nightgown

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.239
<v Speaker 2>like pajamas, I could see the belly underneath, and I

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, she was already high.

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, this is the year of Luca's birth, so

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>that Luca. I think it's interesting that they wrote did

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>they write this in? I don't know if that came from,

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, me being really pregnant or just a great story,

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>like crazy thing for the characters. It couldn't have been

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>a coincidence. I think, you know, we know what we

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>know about how they really tried to use us as

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>real teenagers and get storylines from our real lives. So

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>but I she's she's tested pregnant on the drug store test,

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and she's going to go to the doctor, So I

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>do not know if she really is pregnant.

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I do not know what, Yeah, what is the outcome?

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna have to watch more episodes, but I'm

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>definitely intrigued. I was like, wait, what.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you should join us every week from here

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>on out watching an episode. O.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank thank you for the infante. Right.

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you ask you why why does it

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you just can't watch yourself or is it the show

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and as a whole.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a I don't It's just like there was a

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:52.239
<v Speaker 2>lot going on for me time wise. I so like

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I did watch the show and think, oh my god,

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I really feel like there were some missed opportunities

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of like some funny stuff and whatever the reboot that

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 2>we did, you know, and I wish we had, like

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 2>just because because the show was incredibly melodramatic. You think

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>you're watching these storylines and you're going, oh my god,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 2>and then like the sad music plays through and the.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Things actor looks away.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>God. Yeah, it was all like you know, in the

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>camera moves and the things the zooms is, So it

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>would have been that would have been super funny to

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>like do more of reboot. I always had a very different,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>like meta concept for the reboot of we were already

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>doing this rebooted show, so it was like this like

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, but then also on set on the characters,

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>so people got a little more of a book.

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>We were trying to get there, but we didn't have

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>enough ramp onto that freeway.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, that's a that was

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>a hard show. I think too, like re reboot, because

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the audience there are like our diehard audience. They wanted

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>something that we weren't willing to give. I gave.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I still think we were willing or ready or I

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>gave ten years. I mean, because I remember having the

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>initial conversation with you and thinking, I don't know if

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>he's going to do it. He's really on the fence.

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But you did see it as an opportunity to do

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>something different, in new and refreshing and come at it

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>from a different angle.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember I really championed that idea because it was

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 2>like listen, I genuinely felt like, if anything was going

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to bring it back together, a concept like that would

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>be the thing, because if it was just a straight reboot,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh we want you to come back, We're going to

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>see where David Silver is now, and you know, and

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you were very against that. I was like, nope, that

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was and that had been brought to us a few

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>different times.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Well let me ask you this then, or do you

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>still feel the same way. Would you would you never

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>play David Silver again?

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, you would?

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Or you would?

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>You would never say yes to a reboot of that,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like where you're playing a straight character. Never is a

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>very strong word.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>There would have to be something really interesting about it.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want I would not want to come back

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and just play continue the show.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Just random storylines, and.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there would have to be something really interesting about

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it where it was like as an actor, oh that's fun,

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a that's an interesting reason for me. Something's

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>got to motivate me other than just doing the show

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and sort of the paycheck of it, Like it's I

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>love the concept of doing something for the fan base,

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.959
<v Speaker 2>but it would have to be something that fulfills me. Also,

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>if I'm just on set doing what we did for

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>ten years, I'd be miserable.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, we probably wouldn't be going for ten years. That

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't happen anymore.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Totally, although you never know. Yeah, who knows? How many

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 2>seasons now have you done of this.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna do ten because there's ten seasons in

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the show.

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, did you think you'd be doing a podcast

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and doing ten seasons of it?

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>No? I really didn't even think that through when we

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>started this podcast, of course. Not no, but it goes

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>quicker than the first.

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>We never did when we were doing the show. No,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>we had no call to me. It was like it

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 2>was a fun pilot. Okay, cool and nice to meet

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>you all, and then like.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we get to go and do this every day. Okay,

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that's fun. I like the people we get to. They

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>have good craft service here, like my clothes.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. It was so crazy to the pickups

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>we were getting of, like you're picked up for three

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>more seasons. Remember those calls where it was like you're kid,

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>like holy.

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And thirty three episodes a season?

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, god, so many episodes.

0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bananas, bananas. We did it though. I'm so proud

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of us. We did it. We finished it, and you

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>know what, there's something like we've talked about it before.

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I think like this is the gift that keeps on

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>giving and not just I'm not talking about money, I'm

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not talking about fame. I'm not talking about any of that.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like our relationships and the depth of

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the history we all have together, and the fact that

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>we're just bound together for eternity, like when you know,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we've seen it, when Luke died, when Shannon died. It's

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>all of us, and it's going to be that way

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>when the rest of us go. You know, we're always

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be associated with.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>One another, whether you like it or not, Like we

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>are this. I always equate us to like plane crash

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 2>survivors that have this shared experience that nobody else understands

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>except for the people that were in it, and so

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>our bond through it all. Oh yeah, how can we

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>not create a bond? How it's we grew.

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.959
<v Speaker 1>Up in those hallways in eyes.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>We grew up in those hallways and van eyes, and

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>then we also grew up having the experiences we had

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>on weekends, like doing these appearances and these things where

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh my god, what is what's going on? Yeah?

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>How are this many people showing up to a thing?

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Why do they give a shit that I'm there? Like

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>this is so this is so strange. The whole experience

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>was so surreal.

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's still messed with your head a little bit.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Probably. I still tell stories, and I don't I don't

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm telling stories about myself, like I feel

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like I'm sharing other people's stories because I don't, like

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 2>I remember the visuals of myself being in it, but

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>it still seems unbelievable.

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Like an out of body thing that happened.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I in an eye in Spain and like all these

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>crazy stories where it's like, oh my god, that's right.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I go to Spain now to work and there

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>aren't fifteen thousand people that show up at the airport instead.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>That's not You're like, wait, where is everybody right?

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>That whole? I mean, my popularity is really much like

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you do an appearance and there's five people and they

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>like fairly clap.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious from a man's perspective, because there was talk

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>about this between Kelly and Brandon. It's your decision, it's

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>our decision kind of talk, like, Kelly, you get to

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>choose what you want to do with this, this is

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>your He even says it's your decision. But I was like,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and Kelly was very like, it's our decision. But I

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>do think it's It's just how did you feel about

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that as a man, like if you were in that position.

0:33:55.840 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I think ultimately it is a the woman's decision because

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>you have to go through pregnancy and child like it's

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's a life altering thing in very different

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>ways between a man and a woman. Like I think

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I think a man's job in a lot of ways

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>starts more toward the end of pregnancy and childbirth. But

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like you've got to do a woman asked to

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>do seven eight months on her you know, I wasn't

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>waking up with like morning sickness and things like that.

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't going through those things, So it's easy

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>for me to be like, oh no, we'll make this work.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>It'll be great. It's like it's sure, you know. That's

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I don't know if a man

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>can really say that. I think. I think when you

0:34:54.920 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>are married, it's a very different joint decision because now

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how is is our life ready for this?

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Whereas when you're not, it's kind of like, you know,

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>we were dating, we could not be dating.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>In another Yeah, it was interesting, Brandon said, like at

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>first he was like, we can handle a baby, we

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>can do this we we we wee wait, and then

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until Kelly was like, it's not we, it's me.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Is this happened to me? Yes, it's happening to you too,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>but it has to end up being my choice. And

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that scene, did you do you remember the

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>scene with Kelly and Jackie in the in the bathroom,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>dark bathroom?

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What?

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Mom? Like she fully comes back at her with exactly

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>what she shouldn't have, like, how could you let this

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>happen to yourself?

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Right? So I had It's it's funny, like I am

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>watching it. I wish because I know you could have

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>done it really well. I really wish that they would

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 2>have had a little more connection with Kelly being pregnant

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and being emotional within all of it, just chemically on

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>top of it. So the things you were saying and

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the and some of the reactions, people were like, she's

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 2>allowed to have these, but it seemed a little more

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 2>like you're watching as a rational human being and you're like, God,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>she's really overacting, you know, like overreacting to this situation,

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Like why is she so so frustrated or annoyed with

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>this person? And it's like, Okay, if you put yourself

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>in her shoes. She's going through all of it right now.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 2>So I wish they would have like did a deeper

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 2>dive into that, because I know you could have really

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>played this out of that, but I think it would

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 2>have been really fun for you to do, like to

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 2>be to play the manic side of it all.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>She was very level headed, which I like for Kelly

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>because she's not always historically been level headed, right And

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I think now at this stage as a character, she's

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.919
<v Speaker 1>more sort of secure in herself and realizes that she's

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>on her own ultimately and she needs to take care

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>of herself, you know. I think she stopped putting that

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on her father and on the guys that she was with,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>so now she just feels like more mature, I think

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah.

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, and there's no more mature of a story, no,

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure that there were so many girls you know, that

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>had grown up with us for these seven seasons so far,

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and that had experienced this, you know, or you know,

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>had had to have these talks with their moms or

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>their boyfriends, and like how much they could. I was

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>literally glued to the TV set just watching it as

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a pure fan of there.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Because you've watched all the episodes leading up to it. Yeah,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you're completely invested in these characters you've created separation. I

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>watched this episode and I was like, oh my god,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>we were on a show, you know. I see it.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I see the opening credits and I see my name,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh my god, like I remember. So

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not invested the same way. I'm way more. I

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>was watching it again from a much more like narcissistic

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>self judging as an actor place.

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to keep watching it so you

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>can appreciate the show fully, like the way the fans did,

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I didn't realize that what even happened

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to me when I started. I would be like rolling

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>my eyes at stuff in the beginning, but for sure,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean now, it's just I'm so into it. I'm

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a super fan. I've got the look, I've got the

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>googly guys.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>This show this like I was. I was watching it

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and then Noah came in and I said, oh, you

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>should watch this show because Noah just turned thirteen. It's

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's appropriate.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Now did he recognize you that you?

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I know? I said, I was like, this is my

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>old show. Oh and Zaan was in here too, the

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>three year old who he looked at it for a

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>second and was like, oh that is you know, that's you,

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and then he went he flew in the other room

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>and did what three year olds do. Good.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's but it's funny. Like I in watching it,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I could see the appeal within that age group of

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>what it is we were making. Because and especially that's

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>why I asked you in the beginning, like is this

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the digitally remastered ones? Like what? Because it

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>looked so good and I was watching it genuinely going,

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 2>so it looks like a good show. Yeah, like I

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>see what the kids are watching. Oh yeah, I see

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>all the other stuff and what we were doing like

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not only hell holds up, but was really good.

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Like they were. I'd see where our budget was going,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 2>aside from you know, like paychecks to everybody. I was like, oh,

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>they're really The way it was shot, the way it

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>was lit, the way everything it was really it was legit.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>It was legit. It was a real show.

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>If nothing else, take that away from you having to

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>watch an episode for our podcast today. It just now

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's good to hear you like being proud of

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it and recognizing.

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really watched it, and I was like, no,

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>we were. It was a real It was a real

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>show because it didn't feel like it to me when

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>we were making it, because we were shooting it fan eyes.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 2>We had these long days we were shooting the double

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 2>up episodes and the things.

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We were literally just doing our job, punching our survive.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like, God, I want to get through

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the days so I can get home because I have

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>all this other stuff going on. And so it was

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like you try and get home and you had your

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>separate life. But then as the storylines started, they started

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 2>writing more based on what our actual lives were, it

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>was harder to go home and separate from the it was.

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>It became this really like tumultuous time near the end

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>for me, I know for sure. I was like, I

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to separate the right. I want to

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>get home and I want to just be home and

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 2>focus on my home life. But I can't.

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But you can't cause you go home and you're like, wait,

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>who am I?

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Really am I Do I think this way? Or do

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that way?

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was, and you know, they had

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>me doing all of this stuff for David. So like

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>later on in the run of it, like you know,

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>when David was performing songs on the show, like I

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>was making those songs in my studio at home. So

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it's you just become less and less Like I would

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 2>get home and Okay, I've really got to finish this

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>thing because Ken Miller needs it by tomorrow night. You know,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it needs to be submitted and go into the edit

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And we shoot it in two days. So

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like I just the I can't. I was

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>coming from a very a place of like, this is

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>a machine, and I didn't feel the same like appreciation

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>for it at the time because it was so hard,

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it was so hard making that show. By

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the end, we were it was a crazy, greased up

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 2>machine that we were just sort of in on. And

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I always say, you know, the personal stuff and the

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>things that we were going through at times, and I

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>to me, I'm always curious to have those conversations with

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>people because it's like, God, I know what I was

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 2>going through, Like what were you going through at that point?

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Because you hear mixed stories and it's like, Okay, people

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>aren't you know, we aren't like normally difficult people, but

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 2>we were going. We were there for ten years and

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 2>we went through difficult things. So how then did those

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 2>come across on set when we were just having those

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>days where it was like, I can't I.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Think people I felt in general, not even now looking back,

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people the crew, our bubble, they had

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>such compassion I think for us as just humans and

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>what was being asked of us and what we were

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going through developmentally or in our home lives. And I

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 1>always felt that they had places in their heart to

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>really give us that allowance to kind of sure not

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>do great sometimes. So that was a good thing that

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>we had.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>It's all about having that support system they were we

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 2>through all ten seasons. Even though crew changed and yeah,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>people in positions changed, it was still they came into

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>a machine that was already running a certain way. So

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 2>they stepped in and I think quickly found their footing

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>within it. I remember playing Backammon with Billy Greens like

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>towards the end, because he just came in and was like,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>just got it. Everybody they came in got it. You know,

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>when we were cycling through makeup and hair and the

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 2>trailer and guest stars and things like. We really had

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 2>this machine going at that point, and it was a

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>real God it shouldn't have worked as well as it did,

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 2>but it worked. I mean we were a very complicated bunch,

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>but also incredibly professional, like incredibly just showing up for your.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Call time at six am every day?

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what for sure?

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Sixteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty year old person is

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that responsible.

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Especially at the height of success.

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had right when there's tons of stuff going

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>on at home in your personal.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Life crazily just spun out of control and not been there.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>So no, we held it together. Surprisingly wealthy.

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of us, speaking of the support of environment.

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, this episode was dedicated to car to my

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>makeup artist. Do you remember him?

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I do, Carlos Yankey, Yeah, yeah, I remember just being

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so you know, one day he did my makeup and

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the next day he was dead. Like it was so traumatic.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I remember when he didn't show up and everybody was like,

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Where's where's Carlo, What's going on? And then that he

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 2>passed and was like wait what Yeah, shocking overnight.

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember just being so thrown again.

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 2>We were young, like I to hear it. Now it's

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I I can wrap my head around it a little easier.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 2>But at that point we were young and loss just

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>was not It wasn't on my radar at all. Like

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I still felt like a superhero.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, Carlos, this one was for you, and I'm missed

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you ever since. So yeah, let's talk about Donna and

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 1>David's storyline. Okay and David, they're starting to get all

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.959
<v Speaker 1>like Lucy Goosey, heat it up. They remember that scene

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>duck duck What was it, Lucy goosey, duck duck goose goosey,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>You remember that. I don't know what. It just popped

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 1>into my head was when Jim and Cindy went to

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the the jacuzzi with the swingers. You don't remember that, now,

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I see, I do remember things.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Because you've watched them. Yeah, you have that like you're

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you're so lucky. You could be lucky to Brian mm hmmm, No,

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>because I would have to watch seven seasons of this

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 2>thing to catch up.

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, we don't, binge. We watched one at

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a week. That's the fun part of it is that

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 1>we're watching it like they had to watch it back then.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Back then, yeah, we're not allowed to. Sometimes I believe

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the rules, but I.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Mean, you're not allowed the rules against How would anybody

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>know we can dinge all ten years over a weekend

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and then just pretend like you're watching one a week.

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I actually would not be able to do that because

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have any retention for what episode?

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Donna and David they're getting more in love,

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and so.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Donna and David had it's I in watching that, it

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>was a hard one for me to follow because I

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait, okay, where you know, I whenever I

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>see little flashes of things, I most of the time

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 2>judge by hairstyle, where we were in life and what

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>was going on, It's like, oh okay, David out of

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>shaved head. Okay, so that was what like, you know,

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I put those things together. So I yeah, they seemed

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>like romantically like things were great. But I.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And he says he's finally understands now her desire to

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>wait until she's married to have sex with him, right,

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 1>which is so big. That's like a in that moment

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>when he's like, I finally get it, it felt do

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you he do you think he didn't get it? You

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>just said that I don't know.

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know only because just I feel like you

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>got it storylines and the stuff.

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he was like, he's been he's he's worked.

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>You didn't see this part, but he's been frustrated, he's

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>we've seen all this, like the things that he had

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to work through. But now he really loves her and

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>so this means something to him too, which I think

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is in that one line you say, I'm not waiting

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>for you, I'm waiting for us, and that was Oh

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I got the.

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Chick, incredibly sweet.

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. And as a viewer, you're like, Donna and

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>David are so cute together, David and they're young love.

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You want them to.

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Succeed, You want her to So it's coming, it's happening soon.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>The weight is almost over.

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 2>My friend. But then I know that it goes south

0:48:57.880 --> 0:48:58.439
<v Speaker 2>at some point.

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't. But apparently there are other boyfriends at donna house. Yeah,

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wait, what we've worked so hard.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 2>To get it comes in right? Isn't right? After? No?

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Before this?

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>But there's more to come. There's more boys. Apparently there's

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>three more three more seasons, two more seasons.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Almost Yeah, it can't just be like other in love

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and then we ride that out to the end. That

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.439
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the style of our show now and there when.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You think about it, there is actually so much more

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to see before it ends that I don't know how

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>they're going to cram all of this stuff for each

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of these characters in the next two seasons, but they will.

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll see it.

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I will see it. So did you feel like as

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>David though, were you as Brian, were you asking for

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>them to move the relationship along with Donna? Or because

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 1>were you did you want to continue that story Learner?

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Were You're like, I gotta go do other things. Do

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you remember?

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I really like that David and Donna's storyline historically,

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like I thought there was I thought it was really sweet,

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was really young and genuine, and I love

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that our characters kind of went in different

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>directions and experienced things, but then we always kind of

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>found each other at the end of it all, and

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the characters came back together. And I know that that happened.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 2>A few times watching this, I was like, oh my god,

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 2>they're back together now, and.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You've had some Yeah, you've done some things, sir.

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did. We had some obstacles, we had some

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:42.280
<v Speaker 2>people around. It was a it was a really sweet.

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 2>It was sweet, but it got like really spicy, like

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 2>there was.

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>They're making like hardcore making making out in the restaurant,

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in the in the peach pit, they're making out at

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day breakfast or whatever. I was like, oh my god,

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>get a room, you guys.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Appropriate, super inappropriate, Like why are we standing off at

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the you know, yeah, it's a Mother's Day brunch and

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.919
<v Speaker 2>they're sitting at the table and they're so calm. They're like, oh, look,

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>how sweet that is.

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 1>No, I would not my as a mother. I would

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>not say that. As a mother. I'd be like, oh

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>my god, can you guys stop?

0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 2>What are they doing? You'd be yelling stop it.

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>But I did ask myself, why are you Why would

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you wear that giant T shirt to the Mother's Day breakfast?

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>It's because that's all I wore. It was Giant T shirts, Giant.

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 2>That was one of the things in watching the show

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 2>is I was watching wardrobe going, oh my god, those

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 2>pants were huge. And it wasn't just mine. Jason had

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 2>some pants on at one point walking on the beach.

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, he had his big giant dockers, Like what are

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>those called big dockers?

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.320
<v Speaker 2>She knows, Yeah, they were massive.

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And I remember he didn't want to take his shoes

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>off on that beach scene. So Kelly is walking, because

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you do when you walk on the beach, take your.

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>If you do. Except we shot at very questionable beaches.

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.279
<v Speaker 1>That's true. We were on like Venice Beach or something,

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>for sure, dodging needles exactly.

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I understand not wanting to take your shoes.

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess.

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, David and Donna went for it. And then

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 2>the whole David and Valerie storyline was funny because I

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 2>don't I didn't remember that, Like, I didn't remember that

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>David is the one that bought her or in watching this,

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 2>bought Valerie out of the club.

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if that's going to happen.

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even remember that David owned.

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a part owner, and yeah, wasn't.

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But Steve is the one that started.

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>He was like the man, Yeah he was, Like I

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>thought he was going to be the guy behind it,

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>but it ended up being you. And now she's conniving

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>this character. Val has almost no redeeming qualities really other

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>than she's beautiful, right, and sometimes we see the soft

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>side of her. Sometimes we do see like the reason

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 1>why she is the way she is, but not enough

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because she does so many devilish things like right, like

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this like purposefully come like you see her wheels turning?

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 2>How does this end up? Does it? Does David buy?

0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I hope?

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know the club? I mean I assume

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>because David's like, yeah, get the paperwork together.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he goes, You're out of business.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Ouch. I love, I love like the bad scene ending

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>lines You're out of business as he storms out, and like,

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I thought he was so cool, like such

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 2>a dopey line. Yeah, no, it was.

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Good, ridiculous. She got exactly what she wanted again, but

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 1>it will eventually backfire her on her because she's conniving

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with Kelly's dad at this point, she's conniving with with

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the the guy that works for Kelly's dad Corn that character.

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Right. Wait, so Kelly's dad runs.

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.479
<v Speaker 1>The No, She's pulled him into this web of hers

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 1>thinking this is how I'm gonna get back at Kelly. Ultimately,

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get her dad.

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>To Like I was watching this and I was like, wait,

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 2>where does this storyline go? Because corn have the whole

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 2>thing of like, oh, your money's going to go into

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 2>this and then it's all gonna be great and you're

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be rich beyond your wildest dreams. Does she then

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 2>lose it all?

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't know, that's why you watch next week.

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>No, you just have to tell me.

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll send you the synopsis.

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you at the next convention and you'll be like,

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 2>so here's the t Valerie lost it all.

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we see also the breaking down kind of

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of Claire and Steve's relationship. It's it's been happening like

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 1>it's they're just not good together. I know Amy, who

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>usually does the show with us, she's super fan Jesus

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>cannot stand the character of val and oh really, and

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>she cannot stand the relationship between Steve and Claire really

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.439
<v Speaker 1>because she's like, they're always fighting. It's not fun to watch.

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not realistic.

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Claire were a fun relationship though, when they like

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I So, I don't. And I think it was because

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.479
<v Speaker 2>you know we would do these We didn't. We weren't

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 2>doing our table reads at this point. It wasn't until

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 2>like season eight nine ten, that we were kind of

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the office and doing those, so I had

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 2>no idea what the other storylines were.

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, we were always only doing our storylines.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I would just read through the script.

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd go, okay, but my part, my part, my part.

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we were getting so many scripts.

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we didn't have time to watch to read the

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and we never had read through, so we

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know anything that was happening with the

0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.439
<v Speaker 1>other characters. That's again why it's so fun to watch,

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>because you're like, oh man, there's so much more to

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the show than.

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember, knew who knew? Yeah, you can watch as

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a viewer and it's like you're kind of subjective on

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 2>those storylines because you have no idea. So you see

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 2>like the cliffhanger element of it and the shock and

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the oh my god, what's coming next.

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought the guys in this episode all really showed

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>up so great, Like you were great with Donna, patient

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 1>kind understanding. Brandon was what he was with Kelly and Steve,

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 1>even though he had to get there himself because he's

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.920
<v Speaker 1>very short on patients with her, like I'm not gonna

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>do this, I'm gonna I don't want to fight with

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you anymore. And I can't control you. I can only

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>control myself. Right, all while his hair wasn't moving at.

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:48.719
<v Speaker 2>All and did not move all while they were hair

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 2>spraying him.

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 1>He's still handling it with love. And he goes and

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>visits her dad, yeah, and like tries to bridge that.

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Gap for her and then has like the photo album

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 2>at the end and all.

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I was crying. I was definitely I got emotional.

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I'm the asshole that was looking at that

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 2>the shot going. Whose picture was that that was? Had

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to have been because normally we would it would be

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a crew member that we would those were the pictures.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>No, but if they go you know, when you do

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>work like shows, movies, whatever, and they need to see

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that your character as younger, they'll use your real pictures.

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 2>But you got to think though, like our show was before,

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 2>like especially now with AI, it's unbelievable what people can create.

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Then it had to be an actual picture.

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 2>You can have an actor you know that plays your

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>dad in something and just have a headshot of the

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 2>woman that played your mom and in AI put them

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 2>two together, put the two of them together and say, hey,

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>create a bridge between these actors and make them look

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 2>like family for a photo, and it'll print out and

0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh my god, I can see the resemblance

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in a subtle way. We didn't have that, so it

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 2>was always like these random crew pictures were like, who

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the fuck is that on a wake board?

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that does I zeroed? And that had to have

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>been Kathleen, Like, there's no denying that was her as

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a baby, and so I'm assuming that that and the

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>mom did look just like the baby, So I'm assuming

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that was her real mom, which must have been. And

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if Kathleen still had her mom with

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.439
<v Speaker 1>her or just so alive, or if they were close

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 1>or not. But I just thought like, as an actress,

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that must have been helpful to have that visual of

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 1>her real mom, you know, to play that kind of

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>really emotional moment there that made.

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>It was really really great at finding at like truly

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>connecting with those emotions and those things, like the the

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 2>little bits I've seen here and there, And then I

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 2>remember working with it, like we worked together a lot

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 2>near the end, did you. Yeah, they because they put

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 2>David and Claire together.

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 1>No, you've already had your thing? Did we in the

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 1>beginning of Claire? No, but now it's come I think

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>she's leaving the show soon, Lorraine. When does Claire's character

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>leave the show again?

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I feel like she was there.

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's this season, at the end of the season,

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>then eight.

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 2>The end of seven.

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But she is great.

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 2>To do three seasons without Kathleen Robertson, there's no way,

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 2>is there.

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Maybe end of seven she leaves and the seven Okay,

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean when for that for that matter, for that point,

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like I Shehannon, just being in three seasons of the show,

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I know, it blows my mind because I'm like, wait,

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>what that seemed like a lot longer than three seasons.

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, how wait what season was it when Gabrielle left?

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 1>We already saw that. So that was the season five

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>she had a baby and moved, but then she came back.

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I love having I love the fact that it's two

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 2>people with such terrible memories.

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just physically right now, we're just.

1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't I literally don't remember anything.

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are listening right now being like, oh,

1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't even know what they're talking about. You have

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 1>no idea why do you do your research?

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 2>David was wearing the purple shirt I love, Like Darren

1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>knows all of that stuff. Oh, David was wearing like

1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 2>a crocodile thing with the thing when he walked into

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the so and he and he entered the room, you know,

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:32.160
<v Speaker 2>left foot first, Like he knows the details of stuff,

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, none of it. No. People ask me

1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>what was your favorite episode, and it's like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't remember an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I say to that? Every time?

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<v Speaker 1>I always say the pilot because it's the only one

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<v Speaker 1>I can truly remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And the pilot was and it was special, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like Tim Hunter directing it, Like I remember, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>it all, and I remember us being on set and

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<v Speaker 2>being like this is so cool, Like this is really

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<v Speaker 2>fun doing something like this because I'd never seen it before,

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<v Speaker 2>it had never been done before.

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<v Speaker 1>I always wish like that the show could have kept

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<v Speaker 1>that that look, the visual even just the visual, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you though? Like how because it was so like

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<v Speaker 1>real and raw, like like an eighties rom com. We

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<v Speaker 1>had no sets and then we just got confined to

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<v Speaker 1>those walls on stages and the blocking and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, college I remember walking on the stage and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the college and going, oh my god, they have like

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<v Speaker 2>the quad, they have all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It was massive.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't really need to go to Occidental College to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's not sacked. We loved getting out of that

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved going to Occidental.

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<v Speaker 1>Any other characters we should talk about. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Val and her crazy scheme to get you to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the club.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see if she goes broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, me too, I don't know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Clarence Steve line. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be breaking up soon.

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<v Speaker 2>How could they not? They don't like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They just like to have the makeup sex.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a sweet moment at the end with Steve

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<v Speaker 2>and Claire and the photo album.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was so sweet. But do you love when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Especially when I watch Iron acting, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun, Like I am, I have pure joy

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<v Speaker 1>watching him all the time because you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to do or say, like when he was

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<v Speaker 1>singing in the shower, it's just the last word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like. I saw the things like uh, when Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>sticks his head into talk and then he did like

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<v Speaker 2>the pull himself out of the doorway. And I saw that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my god, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>We would like we would fit those in every scene.

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<v Speaker 2>We could like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot about all the little things, all the little moments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all the little stuff that we did, like good nighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that good nighty. I said that to him recently

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<v Speaker 3>in Belgium.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice nighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I reminded him that the other day in when we

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<v Speaker 1>were in Belgium, and it made him laugh. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just this has been the best having you

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have accomplished nothing. This has been, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, a really poor job at recapping an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if you're looking at hiring us just purely

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<v Speaker 2>to recap things, you might want to rethink that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm doing my best.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you are looking to find two people

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<v Speaker 2>reminiscing in a fun way, you've come to the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's fun because you know, people listening grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with us. They feel so connected. Yeah, for sure, which

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<v Speaker 1>we know now from you know, being able to meet

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<v Speaker 1>our fans at cons.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it. I understand it for sure. Best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I really appreciate you standing in for Torry today.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Jen, this is super fun. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>asking me to come in and do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you are available.

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<v Speaker 2>I so am my. It was super fun to watch

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<v Speaker 2>an episode because I was yay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you liked it. Okay, good. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>remind everybody that next week we have season seven, episode

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<v Speaker 1>thirty coming up Senior week, so be sure to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it so we can rip it apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>What is so we can tell you everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember about it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>What is everybody wearing? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks Brian, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, everyone, I love you too,