1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one O Engine with Jenny Garth 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: and Tory Spelling. We are here. Oh my gosh, you 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: guys welcome to another episode of nine oh two one 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: oh MG. And you guys are gonna omg right about now, 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: because get ready for it. We have a guest host today. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: I'll let you just speak and then they'll know who 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: it is. 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: It's it's me, Tory spelling. 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: That's good. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: I know that was terrible. It's it's fine. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: We have Brian Green with this today. This is so exciting. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm in co hosting, filling in for Tory. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: You're filling in for Tory, which is so nice of you. 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: We have never had you on the pod so well. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: So what's funny is I was sent an episode to 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: watch last night. 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: I did, and I realized as I was watching through it, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: I've never watched a full episode of the show before. 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Was that a digital remaster of the show? Like I 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: know that those just released? 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: No, those are from Darren? Is that from Darren Mark? Yes, 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: he sent the stick and we're able to use it. 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: It's so much easier because some of the episodes are hidden, 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: some of them are not on this platform or that 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: platform for whatever reasons. 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I was shocked how good it looked. I know, like, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: I yeah, it looks like aside from the fact that 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: it's like square format, which is odd to see, it 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: looked really good. 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Wait, it's odd to see square format because the TVs 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: used to be square. 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: What they did? Yeah, because the TVs were square? Yeah. 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Wait a second, when did they become rectangles? 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: I know that's what's you You missed that time. Apparently 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: that was like the end. I think it was the 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: end of the nineties when it started. Really when a 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: HD came up. HD is the by ten forty format, 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: so it's all of a sudden, that's why you have 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: like the wide screen everything now. So yeah, I used 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: to be square and our show fit on a square 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: square screen. Oh mab so any of the old shows 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: that you watch, not just of nine O, two, one zero, 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: but of anything, they're all square. 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: To look at that little lesson technology lesson. 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Thanks. See that's why I'm here. That's that male energy. 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the male energy is in the house today, guys. 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: But I'm so glad that I I yeah, I was 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: a little busy at the end of the nineties. I 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I miss that. 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: I was so busy. I literally never watched our show. 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I think that's great, here's watching it. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: And I was going like there were storylines where I 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, get out of here, right, 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: like Kelly being pregnant and the whole time. 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: All the thing about this podcast is that Toy and 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: I had never watched it back and now we've watched 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: every single episode and it's been mind blowing and like 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: so cathartic. 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: In good way. Yes, and it really it's been. I 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: was watching that episode, Oh my god, the choices that 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: I made and what was I doing with my hair? 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: Did my shirt fit that way? Like I was picking up. 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's what happens. But then you kind of get 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: sucked in. So the more you watch, I did not 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: don't even see those. 68 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: I'm way too I'm way too narcissistic. 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: To get something so vain. So I think the song 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: this show is about you, but it really is. So Okay, Brian, 71 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: I was so happy you're here. Today. We are going 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to recap the heck out of this show, you and me. 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's go. 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about season seven, episode twenty nine. Mother's Day 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: aired Day seventh, nineteen ninety seven. 76 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: They sent me the right episode that would have sucked. 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: No you, I heard you say, this is the right one. 78 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead give me that snops. 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Okay. First of all, can I just say how great 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: it was seeing Joey Tata Kathleen in the opening credits. 81 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's so. It's so cool because 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: like it automatically brought me back to the time period 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: when we were doing it, and I remember it was 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: so exciting when it was like, oh, NAT's going to 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: be in the opening. Yeah, very it was very joined 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: the kids and my my buddy Corn was in it. 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Ornemic here he was on the show. Quirky. 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Quirky, Yeah, quirky. But it's good. I think it's appropriate 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: that he changed his name to korn. I well, I 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: mean is just a little yeah, I mean for a 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: guy his age now is. 92 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: It kind of like when people change from like Joe, 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Like Joey Lawrence changed to Joe Lawrence. It's like, I 94 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: you're known as Joey. I don't know, Like it's weird. 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: Like I did his podcast and I kept calling him 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: by his name and I was like, dude, I can't 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: help it, Like I you're Joe, it happened, and he 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: was like, of course, no problem. 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to read the synopsis or shall I you? Okay, 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: it's an oive mother's day. Kelly is positively freaking out 101 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: when ant flow doesn't come as planned, but Brandon Walsh 102 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: takes the news like a man. Valerie plots a pea 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: pad scheme that's a real stinker. Of course. Donna and 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: David fall hook line and sinker. Meanwhile, Steve finds out 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that it's going to take a lot more than fresh 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: air to fix his relationship with Claire. Directed by Chip Chalmers, 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: written by the beautiful Jessica Klein. This is our producers. 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, that was like on the DVDs in 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: the box sets. 110 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: And no, no, no, no, the producers of this podcast. 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Lorraine writes it to be specific. 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: Because she's the producers of our show. 113 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, they have nothing to do with this podcast. 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: Brian got it. 115 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see here. What do we want to talk 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: about first? Which storyline do you want to jump into? 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: So well, let's let's let's try and I I don't 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: have it in front of me. But let's try and 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: kind of cover it in order, Okay, I think right. 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: So the first the first thing we see, you see 121 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: is Kelly worried because she's six and a half days late, right, 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: six and a half. Yeah, I watched it this morning. 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I'm glad you got the half in there. I forgot 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: about that. I just thought she was a few days late. 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: But six and a half days. That's six and a 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: half day yep. 127 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: And you make a point of saying, Okay, well now 128 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: I'm six and a half days late. So it's like 129 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: that's the only reason that it's stuck out in my 130 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: mind because that was a that was a line. 131 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: Oh okay, good, I'm so glad you were listening. So, yeah, 132 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: she's late and she's freaking out. You know, this whole episode, 133 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: just in general, for me, was a very emotional, emotion full. 134 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: Episode for you, for Kelly. 135 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: For me as a view a fan. 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: As a viewer, got okay, no, I thought. 137 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: That there were so many great moments in this show. 138 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: Yeah that you know, sometimes it doesn't all come together 139 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of doing something else and there's no 140 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: like thread through the whole thing. But this with the 141 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: mother's day theme of it all and how that affected 142 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the different characters in different ways, and I thought it. 143 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: Was Yeah, it was. It was interesting for sure. There. 144 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: So of course, again as I said before, and watching it, 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm watching all the things going wait, 146 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: but you know, the characters just came from this scene. 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: So why like, doesn't the continuity of the you know, 148 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: of the tension matched into the So I'm picking apart 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: all of the stuff. 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that about you because that's what I 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: do well, because we just know too much. 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: It was a job for us. 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe sometimes we didn't do our job that great. 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 155 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: I would bet that I didn't do my job very 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: well like ninety eight percent of the time. 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: No, I would say like maybe one of the time. 158 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Good okay. 159 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: But I did love seeing our characters together in this episode. 160 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: And I loved just the vulnerability of not just Kelly 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: with the pregnancy, but also Donna with her relationship, and 162 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: also David. You were very vulnerable with the the you know, 163 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: evil twixting of val and that kind of Wait. 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question because I don't remember 165 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: and I don't watch any I haven't really seen any 166 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: of them as I said before, how did David end 167 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: up owning part of the After Dark? How? Like? How 168 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: did because you've seen up until this point, so he 169 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: how did he come into the money to do that? 170 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: Like? 171 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: How did that happen? Because I was watching it going wait, 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 173 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna guess because you know me, Brian, 174 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: You do this podcast. I know that's what. 176 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I watched the episode and I'm like, wait, what happened 177 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: last season? No idea got it? Okay, but I think 178 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you got money from Grandma and Grandpa. You inherited some money, 179 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: and then you wanted to invest in the peach Pit 180 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: after Dark with Val? Were you guys boyfriend and girlfriend 181 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: at that time? I don't remember. 182 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: I think we must have been, because she then uses 183 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: that as a ploy to get me to buy her 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: out of. 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question in this one? Were 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: you Okay? So you guys dated in I r L Yeah? 187 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: What in? What? In? I r L Yeah? What does 188 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: that mean? Uh? 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: In real life? 190 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh god, it's one of those new fangled right L 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: O L I R yes, yes, sure? 192 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: So when did you guys date what do you remember 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: what years? Because I mean, that's a I don't know 194 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: what when I dated who? 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: But so we were actually dated. When when did she 196 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: first come on? Season five? 197 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: This is the fun part about show. You're going to 198 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: ask me all these questions. 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: And you're not going to know any of the answers. No, Well, 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: welcome to this very special episode, this very special elderly 201 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: like dementia. 202 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Our listeners know that I have a terrible memory. I'm 203 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: not lying, and they know that this happens to every people. 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: With horrible short term memory, and those and the swabs 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: at the beginning of COVID, those long ones didn't help. 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna yeah, oops, yeah, those were We'd 207 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: get to the end and I'd be like, did I 208 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: eat breakfast this morning? I don't remember it all You 209 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: you just scrubbed it all the way. 210 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys did when she came on the show. 211 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: So you're so we were already dating when she came 212 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: on the show. 213 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: You were already dating, right. 214 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: And then we had broken up by the point when 215 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: we were. 216 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Dating on the show. 217 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, that's the that's the really fun like 218 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: you know that moment. Yeah, it was like Okay, now 219 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: we've we've broken up, and now you're playing romantic. 220 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Because in the beginning she was playing love interests with 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: everybody else. 222 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, how was that. I talked about it before. 223 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: I was so jealous. 224 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh my, I can imagine I. 225 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Because that was my first relationship. Yeah. 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: And you guys, were you like lived together ish shung. 227 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did live together. She lived in my house. 228 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: And how old were years? 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: Seventeen? 230 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: I was seventeen or eighteen when we started, when we 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: started actually dating, playing adults. Yeah, it was like it 232 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: was a very I remember. It was a big like 233 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: decision that I made and it was a big thing 234 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: for me. So then when we when we broke up, 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they wrote the characters together, 236 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: which is that that was just their classic form of torture. 237 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: That's what twelve people don't know that the writers on 238 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: nine O two one Oh, I think liked to, like 239 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: in the closet torture us a little bit. 240 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: That sounds really inappropriate, but. 241 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: They would give us storylines where it was like really 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: rough for us, and everybody else was like this is 243 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: a great storyline. It was like, nah, this is a 244 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: little too on the on the head for me. 245 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always knew that there was that you are 246 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with her, with all the other love interests. But 247 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: then to be broken was the crazy Did you do 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: anything crazy ever in like a fit of rage? You know, 249 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: like el Zeno, did you ever like lose your ship? 250 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: Nobody ever did in el Zeno ever, Like I don't 251 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: know if I've ever known anybody in life that pulled 252 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: in el Zeno the way iron. 253 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: We talk about that. We laugh about that because guys 254 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: that you're listening, maybe you want to explain it. 255 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: Prime Oh god, el Zeno was to come in that 256 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: morning and to see the carnage of the hallway and 257 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: the chair sticking out of the wall, and the mailboxes 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: in the front, like you could tell they were crooked, 259 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: so somebody tried ripping them down, Like were you like 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: window was broken on the front. Yeah. I remember walking 261 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: through going what. 262 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Did anybody but tell you what had happened? Or they're like, 263 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: uh no. 264 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't until I walked back in the front I 265 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: was like, why is there a chair sticking out of 266 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: the all in the ladies room and and they I 267 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: remember we had one of the red rolling lights and 268 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: that was just completely destroyed on the on the ground, 269 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: and they were like, oh yeah, I didn't like. He 270 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: watched the episode last night and some stuff was edited 271 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: out that he was really proud of. I was like, 272 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: oh no. 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, a big day. 274 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: That was a big day. 275 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: But we, of course, because we're family, just liked to 276 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: continually give him shit about that for the rest of 277 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: his life. 278 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: We coined El Zeno because that was during El Nino. 279 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Which is a big like storm, right, Yes, for. 280 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: Sure, that was a big That was a big storm. 281 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: They came out of out of Mexico, out of the 282 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: coast there, so it was everything was like El Nino, 283 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: La Nina came in, so El Nino and then El 284 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: el Xeno. 285 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: I loved it. He probably hates it. He probably hates 286 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: it just as much as that picture that we always 287 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: loved to show, which she hates. 288 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the one of him bending over going 289 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: Oh it's cool. I okay, you know what I hold on. 290 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: You know what I did make a note of I 291 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: have I wrote, I've never seen hair move as little 292 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 2: as irons. He was driving a convertible and it never moved. 293 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Very observant. 294 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: He was in the car driving and it's like, well, 295 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: he has short hair, even short hair though you're in 296 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: a convertible. 297 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: If you were driving in a convertible, if David was 298 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: driving in a convertible, your hair wouldn't move either. 299 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: I was reminded how much hair spray we used on that, 300 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: and how much Jelle I was using. That just wasn't 301 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking. 302 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: Wait a second, you're telling me you can't watch it 303 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: and go back and appreciate that guy, that young man 304 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: and his charm and his good looks. 305 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: How were you when you first started doing this? 306 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Honestly, I was at a real pivotal place in my 307 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: life where going back it was the right moment for 308 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: me to go back and embrace that person in such 309 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: a loving, gentle way. So normally I don't watch my work. 310 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't I don't enjoy watching my anything. I don't 311 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: like somebody else do that for me. Yeah, but this 312 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: has been a whole different experience because now as a 313 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: grown woman and realizing you know what your past, how 314 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: it leads your life, and you know what things stick, 315 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: what things don't, what things really shaped you. Yeah, and 316 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: this show was a massive part of my upbringing and 317 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: all of our like you know, total like teenage, purely 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 1: like adolescent, all those really important developmental years. 319 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: It's hard for me to not watch stuff when I 320 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: was younger acting in it and not immediately be brought 321 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: back to what was going on in my life when 322 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: I was doing that. So like nine O two one oh, 323 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: for me, when I watch old episodes where I see 324 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: little things, it reminds, it takes me right back to 325 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: and immediately I'm like, oh my god, I was so 326 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: like I had zero self confidence. Like I remember I 327 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: remember being in the peach pit after dark set and 328 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: it being full of people, and I was so like, 329 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: I was so stressed about how everybody perceived me in 330 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: what I was doing, and I would be I would 331 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: get so like incredibly embarrassed. And you know, normally as 332 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: an actor, like you try and get on a set 333 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: and you try and put all that away and go 334 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: it's a character. But the characters, those were us by 335 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: season seven, and. 336 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we were seasoned enough as actors to 337 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: really be able to delienate that, you know, make the difference. 338 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: And they we weren't written The characters weren't written differently. 339 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: They were written as us yeah, And I always say 340 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: the time, people like it was easier for me earlier 341 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: on in the show as an actor because they had 342 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: very clear like concepts in mind of what David Silvia 343 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 344 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: I loved David Silver pilot episode, Oh. 345 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: My God, much so did I. And I got to say, like, 346 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: I had way more self confidence playing an absolutely dopey 347 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: dude that every like everybody wanted to push out of 348 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: the web. Like I loved it. It was really fun, 349 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: Like I would enjoy the reactions that I got from 350 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: from people on set in saying things and doing things. 351 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: And then as soon as the character started becoming more 352 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: and more like me, and I started getting really self 353 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: conscious of like, oh my god, now people are viewing 354 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: David Silver, but it's such a combination of myself and 355 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: this character. Ooh. If they think something's dopey and ridiculous, 356 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: they think I'm dopey and ridiculous. So it was it 357 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: became harder and harder to separate and differentiate between the two. 358 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think at that time too, as young, 359 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, people, we didn't have that sort of 360 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: like sense of confidence. 361 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: We were seventeen when we started shooting, So from seventeen 362 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: to twenty seven. 363 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: You act like you were so much younger than me. 364 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, wasn't I? 365 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: No? 366 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: No, I was? 367 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Was I old than I am? Well? 368 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: How by how much? 369 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, And I don't want to call it 370 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: out here because. 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm fifty three. How old are you? 372 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm fifty two, so you're one year older? 373 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: So okay, okay, one year older? Whoop do you do? 374 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm one year older? Sorry. 375 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: Didn't you feel a difference though, age wise between Tory 376 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: and I and you? And no? No? 377 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: I think because I was kind of in the middle, 378 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: so I could go both ways, you know, I didn't feel. 379 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: I remember our stuff was always super fun, but like I, 380 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: I always felt like you were way older than me 381 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: because that's what we played like. That was the relationship 382 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: with the characters in the beginning, and again in the beginning, 383 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: they were such carved out. 384 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Characters, very specific. 385 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was like, oh, we hated each other, 386 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: and Kelly was horrified when David was around, and David 387 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: just you know, couldn't look past doubt. Oh my god, 388 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: completely obsessed. And it was so much fun. Like I 389 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: remember when we were shooting stuff and we would be 390 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: laughing at like how ridiculous it was, and we would 391 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: be coming up with these ridiculous ways of playing stuff, 392 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: and then that just that gave way to sort of 393 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: this mundane Oh my god, we're playing versions of ourselves. Yeah, 394 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 2: how do how do you know? It was? It was 395 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: really hard differentiating. I remember by the time it ended, 396 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: I was I had started coming around and like finding 397 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: my self confidence again. But it was really it took 398 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: a while. 399 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh I know, I watched the whole thing. I saw 400 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: this young not you know boy coming off of a 401 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: big show. You had this confidence about you even though 402 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: you were the younger guy, and you were so comfortable 403 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: in that place. And then I saw as you grew 404 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: up and you know, things changed for you personally, and 405 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: then work obviously changed because of it. Like I saw 406 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: all the growth in that period, and I do. I 407 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: do remember like you coming back sort of like owning 408 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: your power and your voice and your position there. And 409 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: by the end, which was nice, Yeah, yeah, it was. 410 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: We were all doing it. We were all trying to 411 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: figure it out. 412 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all sort of found We went through a lot. 413 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: Like I was, I was thinking back to, like I 414 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: remember working in my studio at home with Dan and 415 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: like work on music and stuff, Like wait. 416 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: Really, oh yeah this is Dan. He's talking about my 417 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: first husband's husband, not legal, but first husband. I got 418 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: married to him. 419 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I crazy. I sat in the studio we were 420 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: working on stuff because you had. 421 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Did I ask you? I was like, can you help him? 422 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you did. 423 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: Like, were you like, hey, let's jam buddy? 424 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: No? No, no no, because we our styles were very different. 425 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: He was like alt rock and I was hip hop. 426 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 427 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: So then you asked like, oh, can you guys work 428 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: on on some stuff? And I was like, I guess, 429 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: like we can try and combine the two. It never 430 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: went anywhere so trying. 431 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for trying. But it's just I mean, we 432 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: could talk a long time I think about because you 433 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: and I've never really sat down had a conversation about 434 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: the impact that the show had on us in our development, yeah, 435 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: and how that ended up for us now here today. 436 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there, which I I love. 437 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: That would be a very special episode of. 438 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: All Right. So Kelly might be pregnant, Kelly might be pregnant. 439 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: Donna's a very good friend. 440 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Donna's very good friend. I remember that there was the 441 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: scene where was it Donna that reached out to Brandon 442 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: was like, you need to get over here right now, 443 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: and he was like panicked, And. 444 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: No, I think it was Kelly. I mean, Donna said 445 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: you should call him, and then Kelly called him, okay, 446 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: and because she just was like she needed some support 447 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: stuff with you. 448 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: And Jason was really good. Yeah. 449 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: I really believe it. 450 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: Really well, like really connected and it seemed like a 451 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: really loving. 452 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a champ, like you know. Of course, 453 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: she was nervous to tell him and terrified and completely 454 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: just out of her mind, and I think that really translated. 455 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: And I think that his reaction was written so beautifully 456 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: because that's probably not the typical reaction from a guy 457 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: his he's twenty two, maybe sure, but I think that 458 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: it was I know I instantly fell back more whatever 459 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: in love with Brandon and Jason in that moment because 460 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: he was so dear and kind and gentle, yeah, impatient. 461 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. He was very just very mature 462 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: in the way that he handled it like it's It 463 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: was funny to watch because like I've always known, like, oh, 464 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: Brandon was this character that was sort of the moral 465 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: the morality of the show like he you know, Brandon 466 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: and Brenda were the two that like brought us back 467 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: to what is right? So, like I remember when he 468 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: was gone, it was a little kind of like, okay. 469 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: Now wait, Dad's gone. 470 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: What are we going to know? Who was that? Like? Yeah, 471 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: now what are we going to do? 472 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 473 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he handled that really did well though. Like as 474 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: an actor, I was, I really enjoyed watching the stuff 475 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: with Kelly and Brandon. 476 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: So this aired in nineteen ninety seven and we are 477 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: openly talking about teenage abortion. What other show was doing 478 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: that at this time? I mean maybe by this time 479 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: we had had other. 480 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: Late nineties, I think there were other. 481 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: Shows life and different shows. 482 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Party of five was on. I think it was people 483 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: were starting to like really get into it. 484 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: I never watched any of those shows. I don't know 485 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: if you did. I never had any time to watch TV. 486 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: I did see a couple episodes of Party of Five. 487 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: That show was fantastic, Like they had really I remember 488 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: Scott Wolf was dealing with alcoholism and drug abuse or 489 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: his character was, and it was like they did a 490 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: they brought everybody together and they started it was just 491 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: really well all handled this though, was really cool. 492 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I didn't feel like as a viewer, 493 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't know that this was coming. Like 494 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: I you know, this whole storyline I never saw coming, 495 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, Okay, we're going there. And 496 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I know that I Jenny was pregnant in real. 497 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: Life, so I could so I could tell that you 498 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: were hiding it in scenes. And when you came out 499 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: in the very beginning and you had like a nightgown 500 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 2: like pajamas, I could see the belly underneath, and I 501 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: was like, oh, she was already high. 502 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, this is the year of Luca's birth, so 503 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: that Luca. I think it's interesting that they wrote did 504 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: they write this in? I don't know if that came from, 505 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, me being really pregnant or just a great story, 506 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: like crazy thing for the characters. It couldn't have been 507 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: a coincidence. I think, you know, we know what we 508 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: know about how they really tried to use us as 509 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: real teenagers and get storylines from our real lives. So 510 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: but I she's she's tested pregnant on the drug store test, 511 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and she's going to go to the doctor, So I 512 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: do not know if she really is pregnant. 513 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: I do not know what, Yeah, what is the outcome? 514 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 515 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have to watch more episodes, but I'm 516 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: definitely intrigued. I was like, wait, what. 517 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: I think you should join us every week from here 518 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: on out watching an episode. O. 519 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: Thank thank you for the infante. Right. 520 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: Let me tell you ask you why why does it 521 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: you just can't watch yourself or is it the show 522 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and as a whole. 523 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: It's a I don't It's just like there was a 524 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: lot going on for me time wise. I so like 525 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: I did watch the show and think, oh my god, 526 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: Like I really feel like there were some missed opportunities 527 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: of like some funny stuff and whatever the reboot that 528 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: we did, you know, and I wish we had, like 529 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: just because because the show was incredibly melodramatic. You think 530 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: you're watching these storylines and you're going, oh my god, 531 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: and then like the sad music plays through and the. 532 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: Things actor looks away. 533 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: God. Yeah, it was all like you know, in the 534 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: camera moves and the things the zooms is, So it 535 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: would have been that would have been super funny to 536 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: like do more of reboot. I always had a very different, 537 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: like meta concept for the reboot of we were already 538 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: doing this rebooted show, so it was like this like 539 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but then also on set on the characters, 540 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: so people got a little more of a book. 541 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: We were trying to get there, but we didn't have 542 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: enough ramp onto that freeway. 543 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, that's a that was 544 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: a hard show. I think too, like re reboot, because 545 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: the audience there are like our diehard audience. They wanted 546 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: something that we weren't willing to give. I gave. 547 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: I still think we were willing or ready or I 548 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: gave ten years. I mean, because I remember having the 549 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: initial conversation with you and thinking, I don't know if 550 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: he's going to do it. He's really on the fence. 551 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: But you did see it as an opportunity to do 552 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: something different, in new and refreshing and come at it 553 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: from a different angle. 554 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: I remember I really championed that idea because it was 555 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: like listen, I genuinely felt like, if anything was going 556 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: to bring it back together, a concept like that would 557 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: be the thing, because if it was just a straight reboot, 558 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh we want you to come back, We're going to 559 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: see where David Silver is now, and you know, and 560 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: you were very against that. I was like, nope, that 561 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: was and that had been brought to us a few 562 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: different times. 563 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Well let me ask you this then, or do you 564 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: still feel the same way. Would you would you never 565 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: play David Silver again? 566 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, you would? 567 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: Or you would? 568 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 569 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: You would never say yes to a reboot of that, 570 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: like where you're playing a straight character. Never is a 571 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: very strong word. 572 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: There would have to be something really interesting about it. 573 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want I would not want to come back 574 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: and just play continue the show. 575 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Just random storylines, and. 576 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there would have to be something really interesting about 577 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: it where it was like as an actor, oh that's fun, 578 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: Like that's a that's an interesting reason for me. Something's 579 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: got to motivate me other than just doing the show 580 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: and sort of the paycheck of it, Like it's I 581 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: love the concept of doing something for the fan base, 582 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: but it would have to be something that fulfills me. Also, 583 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: if I'm just on set doing what we did for 584 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: ten years, I'd be miserable. 585 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Well, we probably wouldn't be going for ten years. That 586 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: really doesn't happen anymore. 587 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Totally, although you never know. Yeah, who knows? How many 588 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: seasons now have you done of this. 589 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna do ten because there's ten seasons in 590 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: the show. 591 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, did you think you'd be doing a podcast 592 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: and doing ten seasons of it? 593 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: No? I really didn't even think that through when we 594 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: started this podcast, of course. Not no, but it goes 595 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: quicker than the first. 596 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: We never did when we were doing the show. No, 597 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: we had no call to me. It was like it 598 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: was a fun pilot. Okay, cool and nice to meet 599 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: you all, and then like. 600 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Oh, we get to go and do this every day. Okay, 601 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: that's fun. I like the people we get to. They 602 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: have good craft service here, like my clothes. 603 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was so crazy to the pickups 604 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: we were getting of, like you're picked up for three 605 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: more seasons. Remember those calls where it was like you're kid, 606 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: like holy. 607 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: And thirty three episodes a season? 608 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, god, so many episodes. 609 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, bananas, bananas. We did it though. I'm so proud 610 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: of us. We did it. We finished it, and you 611 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: know what, there's something like we've talked about it before. 612 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: I think like this is the gift that keeps on 613 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: giving and not just I'm not talking about money, I'm 614 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: not talking about fame. I'm not talking about any of that. 615 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like our relationships and the depth of 616 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the history we all have together, and the fact that 617 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: we're just bound together for eternity, like when you know, 618 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: we've seen it, when Luke died, when Shannon died. It's 619 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: all of us, and it's going to be that way 620 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: when the rest of us go. You know, we're always 621 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: going to be associated with. 622 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: One another, whether you like it or not, Like we 623 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: are this. I always equate us to like plane crash 624 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: survivors that have this shared experience that nobody else understands 625 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: except for the people that were in it, and so 626 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: our bond through it all. Oh yeah, how can we 627 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: not create a bond? How it's we grew. 628 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: Up in those hallways in eyes. 629 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: We grew up in those hallways and van eyes, and 630 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: then we also grew up having the experiences we had 631 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: on weekends, like doing these appearances and these things where 632 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: it was like, oh my god, what is what's going on? Yeah? 633 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: How are this many people showing up to a thing? 634 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: Why do they give a shit that I'm there? Like 635 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: this is so this is so strange. The whole experience 636 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: was so surreal. 637 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still messed with your head a little bit. 638 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: Probably. I still tell stories, and I don't I don't 639 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: feel like I'm telling stories about myself, like I feel 640 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: like I'm sharing other people's stories because I don't, like 641 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: I remember the visuals of myself being in it, but 642 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: it still seems unbelievable. 643 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Like an out of body thing that happened. 644 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: I in an eye in Spain and like all these 645 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: crazy stories where it's like, oh my god, that's right. 646 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: Like I go to Spain now to work and there 647 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: aren't fifteen thousand people that show up at the airport instead. 648 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: That's not You're like, wait, where is everybody right? 649 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: That whole? I mean, my popularity is really much like 650 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: you do an appearance and there's five people and they 651 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: like fairly clap. 652 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious from a man's perspective, because there was talk 653 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: about this between Kelly and Brandon. It's your decision, it's 654 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: our decision kind of talk, like, Kelly, you get to 655 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: choose what you want to do with this, this is 656 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: your He even says it's your decision. But I was like, 657 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: and Kelly was very like, it's our decision. But I 658 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: do think it's It's just how did you feel about 659 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: that as a man, like if you were in that position. 660 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: I think ultimately it is a the woman's decision because 661 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: you have to go through pregnancy and child like it's 662 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: it is. It's a life altering thing in very different 663 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: ways between a man and a woman. Like I think 664 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: I think a man's job in a lot of ways 665 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: starts more toward the end of pregnancy and childbirth. But 666 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: it's like you've got to do a woman asked to 667 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: do seven eight months on her you know, I wasn't 668 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: waking up with like morning sickness and things like that. 669 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't going through those things, So it's easy 670 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: for me to be like, oh no, we'll make this work. 671 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: It'll be great. It's like it's sure, you know. That's 672 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if a man 673 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: can really say that. I think. I think when you 674 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: are married, it's a very different joint decision because now 675 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: it's like, how is is our life ready for this? 676 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: Whereas when you're not, it's kind of like, you know, 677 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: we were dating, we could not be dating. 678 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: In another Yeah, it was interesting, Brandon said, like at 679 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: first he was like, we can handle a baby, we 680 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: can do this we we we wee wait, and then 681 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't until Kelly was like, it's not we, it's me. 682 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Is this happened to me? Yes, it's happening to you too, 683 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: but it has to end up being my choice. And 684 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: I think that scene, did you do you remember the 685 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: scene with Kelly and Jackie in the in the bathroom, 686 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: dark bathroom? 687 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? What? 688 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: Mom? Like she fully comes back at her with exactly 689 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: what she shouldn't have, like, how could you let this 690 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: happen to yourself? 691 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: Right? So I had It's it's funny, like I am 692 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: watching it. I wish because I know you could have 693 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: done it really well. I really wish that they would 694 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: have had a little more connection with Kelly being pregnant 695 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: and being emotional within all of it, just chemically on 696 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: top of it. So the things you were saying and 697 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: the and some of the reactions, people were like, she's 698 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: allowed to have these, but it seemed a little more 699 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: like you're watching as a rational human being and you're like, God, 700 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: she's really overacting, you know, like overreacting to this situation, 701 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: Like why is she so so frustrated or annoyed with 702 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: this person? And it's like, Okay, if you put yourself 703 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: in her shoes. She's going through all of it right now. 704 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 2: So I wish they would have like did a deeper 705 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: dive into that, because I know you could have really 706 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: played this out of that, but I think it would 707 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: have been really fun for you to do, like to 708 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 2: be to play the manic side of it all. 709 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: She was very level headed, which I like for Kelly 710 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: because she's not always historically been level headed, right And 711 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: I think now at this stage as a character, she's 712 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: more sort of secure in herself and realizes that she's 713 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: on her own ultimately and she needs to take care 714 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: of herself, you know. I think she stopped putting that 715 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: on her father and on the guys that she was with, 716 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: so now she just feels like more mature, I think 717 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. 718 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: Well, and there's no more mature of a story, no, 719 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: And I'm. 720 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: Sure that there were so many girls you know, that 721 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: had grown up with us for these seven seasons so far, 722 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: and that had experienced this, you know, or you know, 723 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: had had to have these talks with their moms or 724 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: their boyfriends, and like how much they could. I was 725 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: literally glued to the TV set just watching it as 726 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: a pure fan of there. 727 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 2: Because you've watched all the episodes leading up to it. Yeah, 728 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: you're completely invested in these characters you've created separation. I 729 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: watched this episode and I was like, oh my god, 730 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: we were on a show, you know. I see it. 731 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: I see the opening credits and I see my name, 732 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my god, like I remember. So 733 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: I'm not invested the same way. I'm way more. I 734 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: was watching it again from a much more like narcissistic 735 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: self judging as an actor place. 736 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I just want you to keep watching it so you 737 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: can appreciate the show fully, like the way the fans did, 738 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: you know. And I didn't realize that what even happened 739 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: to me when I started. I would be like rolling 740 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: my eyes at stuff in the beginning, but for sure, 741 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean now, it's just I'm so into it. I'm 742 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: a super fan. I've got the look, I've got the 743 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: googly guys. 744 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: This show this like I was. I was watching it 745 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: and then Noah came in and I said, oh, you 746 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: should watch this show because Noah just turned thirteen. It's 747 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: like it's it's appropriate. 748 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Now did he recognize you that you? 749 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: I know? I said, I was like, this is my 750 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: old show. Oh and Zaan was in here too, the 751 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: three year old who he looked at it for a 752 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: second and was like, oh that is you know, that's you, 753 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: and then he went he flew in the other room 754 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: and did what three year olds do. Good. 755 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: Thank god. 756 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 2: But it's but it's funny. Like I in watching it, 757 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: I could see the appeal within that age group of 758 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: what it is we were making. Because and especially that's 759 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: why I asked you in the beginning, like is this 760 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: one of the digitally remastered ones? Like what? Because it 761 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: looked so good and I was watching it genuinely going, 762 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: so it looks like a good show. Yeah, like I 763 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: see what the kids are watching. Oh yeah, I see 764 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: all the other stuff and what we were doing like 765 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: absolutely not only hell holds up, but was really good. 766 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: Like they were. I'd see where our budget was going, 767 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: aside from you know, like paychecks to everybody. I was like, oh, 768 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: they're really The way it was shot, the way it 769 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: was lit, the way everything it was really it was legit. 770 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: It was legit. It was a real show. 771 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: If nothing else, take that away from you having to 772 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: watch an episode for our podcast today. It just now 773 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: like it's good to hear you like being proud of 774 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: it and recognizing. 775 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really watched it, and I was like, no, 776 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: we were. It was a real It was a real 777 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: show because it didn't feel like it to me when 778 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: we were making it, because we were shooting it fan eyes. 779 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: We had these long days we were shooting the double 780 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 2: up episodes and the things. 781 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: We were literally just doing our job, punching our survive. 782 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, God, I want to get through 783 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: the days so I can get home because I have 784 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: all this other stuff going on. And so it was 785 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: like you try and get home and you had your 786 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: separate life. But then as the storylines started, they started 787 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: writing more based on what our actual lives were, it 788 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: was harder to go home and separate from the it was. 789 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: It became this really like tumultuous time near the end 790 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: for me, I know for sure. I was like, I 791 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: don't know how to separate the right. I want to 792 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: get home and I want to just be home and 793 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: focus on my home life. But I can't. 794 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: But you can't cause you go home and you're like, wait, 795 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: who am I? 796 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 797 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: Really am I Do I think this way? Or do 798 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: I think that way? 799 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: I was like I was, and you know, they had 800 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: me doing all of this stuff for David. So like 801 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: later on in the run of it, like you know, 802 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: when David was performing songs on the show, like I 803 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 2: was making those songs in my studio at home. So 804 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: it's you just become less and less Like I would 805 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 2: get home and Okay, I've really got to finish this 806 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: thing because Ken Miller needs it by tomorrow night. You know, 807 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: it needs to be submitted and go into the edit 808 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: and stuff. And we shoot it in two days. So 809 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: it was like I just the I can't. I was 810 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: coming from a very a place of like, this is 811 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: a machine, and I didn't feel the same like appreciation 812 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: for it at the time because it was so hard, 813 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: don't know, it was so hard making that show. By 814 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: the end, we were it was a crazy, greased up 815 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: machine that we were just sort of in on. And 816 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: I always say, you know, the personal stuff and the 817 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: things that we were going through at times, and I 818 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: to me, I'm always curious to have those conversations with 819 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 2: people because it's like, God, I know what I was 820 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 2: going through, Like what were you going through at that point? 821 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: Because you hear mixed stories and it's like, Okay, people 822 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: aren't you know, we aren't like normally difficult people, but 823 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: we were going. We were there for ten years and 824 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 2: we went through difficult things. So how then did those 825 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 2: come across on set when we were just having those 826 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: days where it was like, I can't I. 827 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: Think people I felt in general, not even now looking back, 828 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: I feel like people the crew, our bubble, they had 829 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: such compassion I think for us as just humans and 830 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: what was being asked of us and what we were 831 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: going through developmentally or in our home lives. And I 832 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: always felt that they had places in their heart to 833 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: really give us that allowance to kind of sure not 834 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: do great sometimes. So that was a good thing that 835 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: we had. 836 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: It's all about having that support system they were we 837 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 2: through all ten seasons. Even though crew changed and yeah, 838 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: people in positions changed, it was still they came into 839 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: a machine that was already running a certain way. So 840 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 2: they stepped in and I think quickly found their footing 841 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: within it. I remember playing Backammon with Billy Greens like 842 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: towards the end, because he just came in and was like, 843 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: just got it. Everybody they came in got it. You know, 844 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 2: when we were cycling through makeup and hair and the 845 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: trailer and guest stars and things like. We really had 846 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: this machine going at that point, and it was a 847 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: real God it shouldn't have worked as well as it did, 848 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: but it worked. I mean we were a very complicated bunch, 849 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: but also incredibly professional, like incredibly just showing up for your. 850 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: Call time at six am every day? 851 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what for sure? 852 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: Sixteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty year old person is 853 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: that responsible. 854 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: Especially at the height of success. 855 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had right when there's tons of stuff going 856 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: on at home in your personal. 857 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: Life crazily just spun out of control and not been there. 858 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: So no, we held it together. Surprisingly wealthy. 859 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm proud of us, speaking of the support of environment. 860 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, this episode was dedicated to car to my 861 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: makeup artist. Do you remember him? 862 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 863 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: I do, Carlos Yankey, Yeah, yeah, I remember just being 864 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: so you know, one day he did my makeup and 865 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: the next day he was dead. Like it was so traumatic. 866 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 2: I remember when he didn't show up and everybody was like, 867 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 2: Where's where's Carlo, What's going on? And then that he 868 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: passed and was like wait what Yeah, shocking overnight. 869 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: I remember just being so thrown again. 870 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: We were young, like I to hear it. Now it's 871 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: I I can wrap my head around it a little easier. 872 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 2: But at that point we were young and loss just 873 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: was not It wasn't on my radar at all. Like 874 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 2: I still felt like a superhero. 875 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, Carlos, this one was for you, and I'm missed 876 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: you ever since. So yeah, let's talk about Donna and 877 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: David's storyline. Okay and David, they're starting to get all 878 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,959 Speaker 1: like Lucy Goosey, heat it up. They remember that scene 879 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: duck duck What was it, Lucy goosey, duck duck goose goosey, 880 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: You remember that. I don't know what. It just popped 881 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: into my head was when Jim and Cindy went to 882 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: the the jacuzzi with the swingers. You don't remember that, now, 883 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: I see, I do remember things. 884 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 2: Because you've watched them. Yeah, you have that like you're 885 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: you're so lucky. You could be lucky to Brian mm hmmm, No, 886 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 2: because I would have to watch seven seasons of this 887 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: thing to catch up. 888 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we don't, binge. We watched one at 889 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: a week. That's the fun part of it is that 890 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: we're watching it like they had to watch it back then. 891 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: Back then, yeah, we're not allowed to. Sometimes I believe 892 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: the rules, but I. 893 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 2: Mean, you're not allowed the rules against How would anybody 894 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 2: know we can dinge all ten years over a weekend 895 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: and then just pretend like you're watching one a week. 896 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: I actually would not be able to do that because 897 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any retention for what episode? 898 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 3: Right? 899 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So Donna and David they're getting more in love, 900 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: and so. 901 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: Donna and David had it's I in watching that, it 902 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 2: was a hard one for me to follow because I 903 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 2: was like, wait, okay, where you know, I whenever I 904 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 2: see little flashes of things, I most of the time 905 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: judge by hairstyle, where we were in life and what 906 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 2: was going on, It's like, oh okay, David out of 907 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: shaved head. Okay, so that was what like, you know, 908 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: I put those things together. So I yeah, they seemed 909 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: like romantically like things were great. But I. 910 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: And he says he's finally understands now her desire to 911 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: wait until she's married to have sex with him, right, 912 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: which is so big. That's like a in that moment 913 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: when he's like, I finally get it, it felt do 914 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: you he do you think he didn't get it? You 915 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: just said that I don't know. 916 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: I don't know only because just I feel like you 917 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: got it storylines and the stuff. 918 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was like, he's been he's he's worked. 919 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: You didn't see this part, but he's been frustrated, he's 920 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: we've seen all this, like the things that he had 921 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: to work through. But now he really loves her and 922 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: so this means something to him too, which I think 923 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: is in that one line you say, I'm not waiting 924 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: for you, I'm waiting for us, and that was Oh 925 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: I got the. 926 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: Chick, incredibly sweet. 927 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. And as a viewer, you're like, Donna and 928 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: David are so cute together, David and they're young love. 929 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: You want them to. 930 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: Succeed, You want her to So it's coming, it's happening soon. 931 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: The weight is almost over. 932 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: My friend. But then I know that it goes south 933 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 2: at some point. 934 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: I don't. But apparently there are other boyfriends at donna house. Yeah, 935 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, what we've worked so hard. 936 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: To get it comes in right? Isn't right? After? No? 937 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 2: Before this? 938 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: But there's more to come. There's more boys. Apparently there's 939 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: three more three more seasons, two more seasons. 940 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 2: Almost Yeah, it can't just be like other in love 941 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 2: and then we ride that out to the end. That 942 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 2: wasn't the style of our show now and there when. 943 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: You think about it, there is actually so much more 944 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: to see before it ends that I don't know how 945 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: they're going to cram all of this stuff for each 946 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: of these characters in the next two seasons, but they will. 947 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see it. 948 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: I will see it. So did you feel like as 949 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: David though, were you as Brian, were you asking for 950 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: them to move the relationship along with Donna? Or because 951 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: were you did you want to continue that story Learner? 952 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: Were You're like, I gotta go do other things. Do 953 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: you remember? 954 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: No, I really like that David and Donna's storyline historically, 955 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 2: like I thought there was I thought it was really sweet, 956 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: and it was really young and genuine, and I love 957 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: the fact that our characters kind of went in different 958 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: directions and experienced things, but then we always kind of 959 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 2: found each other at the end of it all, and 960 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 2: the characters came back together. And I know that that happened. 961 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: A few times watching this, I was like, oh my god, 962 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: they're back together now, and. 963 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: You've had some Yeah, you've done some things, sir. 964 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We had some obstacles, we had some 965 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 2: people around. It was a it was a really sweet. 966 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: It was sweet, but it got like really spicy, like 967 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: there was. 968 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: They're making like hardcore making making out in the restaurant, 969 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: in the in the peach pit, they're making out at 970 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: Mother's Day breakfast or whatever. I was like, oh my god, 971 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: get a room, you guys. 972 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 2: Appropriate, super inappropriate, Like why are we standing off at 973 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 2: the you know, yeah, it's a Mother's Day brunch and 974 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 2: they're sitting at the table and they're so calm. They're like, oh, look, 975 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: how sweet that is. 976 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: No, I would not my as a mother. I would 977 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: not say that. As a mother. I'd be like, oh 978 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: my god, can you guys stop? 979 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 2: What are they doing? You'd be yelling stop it. 980 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: But I did ask myself, why are you Why would 981 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: you wear that giant T shirt to the Mother's Day breakfast? 982 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: It's because that's all I wore. It was Giant T shirts, Giant. 983 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: That was one of the things in watching the show 984 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 2: is I was watching wardrobe going, oh my god, those 985 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: pants were huge. And it wasn't just mine. Jason had 986 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 2: some pants on at one point walking on the beach. 987 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: Well, he had his big giant dockers, Like what are 988 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: those called big dockers? 989 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 2: She knows, Yeah, they were massive. 990 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: And I remember he didn't want to take his shoes 991 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: off on that beach scene. So Kelly is walking, because 992 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: you do when you walk on the beach, take your. 993 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: If you do. Except we shot at very questionable beaches. 994 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: That's true. We were on like Venice Beach or something, 995 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: for sure, dodging needles exactly. 996 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I understand not wanting to take your shoes. 997 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. 998 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 2: So, yeah, David and Donna went for it. And then 999 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: the whole David and Valerie storyline was funny because I 1000 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: don't I didn't remember that, Like, I didn't remember that 1001 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 2: David is the one that bought her or in watching this, 1002 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 2: bought Valerie out of the club. 1003 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's going to happen. 1004 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 2: I didn't even remember that David owned. 1005 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: He's a part owner, and yeah, wasn't. 1006 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 2: But Steve is the one that started. 1007 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: He was like the man, Yeah he was, Like I 1008 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be the guy behind it, 1009 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: but it ended up being you. And now she's conniving 1010 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: this character. Val has almost no redeeming qualities really other 1011 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: than she's beautiful, right, and sometimes we see the soft 1012 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: side of her. Sometimes we do see like the reason 1013 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: why she is the way she is, but not enough 1014 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: because she does so many devilish things like right, like 1015 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: this like purposefully come like you see her wheels turning? 1016 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: How does this end up? Does it? Does David buy? 1017 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: I hope? 1018 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 2: So I don't know the club? I mean I assume 1019 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 2: because David's like, yeah, get the paperwork together. 1020 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes, You're out of business. 1021 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: Ouch. I love, I love like the bad scene ending 1022 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: lines You're out of business as he storms out, and like, 1023 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, I thought he was so cool, like such 1024 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 2: a dopey line. Yeah, no, it was. 1025 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: Good, ridiculous. She got exactly what she wanted again, but 1026 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: it will eventually backfire her on her because she's conniving 1027 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: with Kelly's dad at this point, she's conniving with with 1028 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,280 Speaker 1: the the guy that works for Kelly's dad Corn that character. 1029 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 2: Right. Wait, so Kelly's dad runs. 1030 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,479 Speaker 1: The No, She's pulled him into this web of hers 1031 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: thinking this is how I'm gonna get back at Kelly. Ultimately, 1032 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her dad. 1033 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 2: To Like I was watching this and I was like, wait, 1034 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: where does this storyline go? Because corn have the whole 1035 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 2: thing of like, oh, your money's going to go into 1036 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 2: this and then it's all gonna be great and you're 1037 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: gonna be rich beyond your wildest dreams. Does she then 1038 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: lose it all? 1039 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, that's why you watch next week. 1040 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: No, you just have to tell me. 1041 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll send you the synopsis. 1042 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 2: I'll see you at the next convention and you'll be like, 1043 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 2: so here's the t Valerie lost it all. 1044 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we see also the breaking down kind of 1045 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: of Claire and Steve's relationship. It's it's been happening like 1046 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: it's they're just not good together. I know Amy, who 1047 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: usually does the show with us, she's super fan Jesus 1048 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 1: cannot stand the character of val and oh really, and 1049 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: she cannot stand the relationship between Steve and Claire really 1050 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 1: because she's like, they're always fighting. It's not fun to watch. 1051 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: It's not realistic. 1052 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: Stephen Claire were a fun relationship though, when they like 1053 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 2: I So, I don't. And I think it was because 1054 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 2: you know we would do these We didn't. We weren't 1055 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: doing our table reads at this point. It wasn't until 1056 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 2: like season eight nine ten, that we were kind of 1057 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: sitting in the office and doing those, so I had 1058 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 2: no idea what the other storylines were. 1059 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we were always only doing our storylines. 1060 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would just read through the script. 1061 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: I'd go, okay, but my part, my part, my part. 1062 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were getting so many scripts. 1063 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have time to watch to read the 1064 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: whole thing, and we never had read through, so we 1065 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know anything that was happening with the 1066 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,439 Speaker 1: other characters. That's again why it's so fun to watch, 1067 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: because you're like, oh man, there's so much more to 1068 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: the show than. 1069 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 2: I remember, knew who knew? Yeah, you can watch as 1070 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 2: a viewer and it's like you're kind of subjective on 1071 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 2: those storylines because you have no idea. So you see 1072 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 2: like the cliffhanger element of it and the shock and 1073 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: the oh my god, what's coming next. 1074 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: I thought the guys in this episode all really showed 1075 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: up so great, Like you were great with Donna, patient 1076 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: kind understanding. Brandon was what he was with Kelly and Steve, 1077 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: even though he had to get there himself because he's 1078 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: very short on patients with her, like I'm not gonna 1079 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: do this, I'm gonna I don't want to fight with 1080 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: you anymore. And I can't control you. I can only 1081 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: control myself. Right, all while his hair wasn't moving at. 1082 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 2: All and did not move all while they were hair 1083 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 2: spraying him. 1084 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: He's still handling it with love. And he goes and 1085 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: visits her dad, yeah, and like tries to bridge that. 1086 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 2: Gap for her and then has like the photo album 1087 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: at the end and all. 1088 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: I was crying. I was definitely I got emotional. 1089 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm the asshole that was looking at that 1090 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 2: the shot going. Whose picture was that that was? Had 1091 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: to have been because normally we would it would be 1092 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 2: a crew member that we would those were the pictures. 1093 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: No, but if they go you know, when you do 1094 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: work like shows, movies, whatever, and they need to see 1095 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: that your character as younger, they'll use your real pictures. 1096 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 2: But you got to think though, like our show was before, 1097 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 2: like especially now with AI, it's unbelievable what people can create. 1098 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: Then it had to be an actual picture. 1099 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: You can have an actor you know that plays your 1100 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 2: dad in something and just have a headshot of the 1101 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: woman that played your mom and in AI put them 1102 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 2: two together, put the two of them together and say, hey, 1103 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 2: create a bridge between these actors and make them look 1104 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: like family for a photo, and it'll print out and 1105 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, I can see the resemblance 1106 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 2: in a subtle way. We didn't have that, so it 1107 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: was always like these random crew pictures were like, who 1108 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 2: the fuck is that on a wake board? 1109 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: Like that does I zeroed? And that had to have 1110 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: been Kathleen, Like, there's no denying that was her as 1111 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: a baby, and so I'm assuming that that and the 1112 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: mom did look just like the baby, So I'm assuming 1113 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: that was her real mom, which must have been. And 1114 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember if Kathleen still had her mom with 1115 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 1: her or just so alive, or if they were close 1116 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: or not. But I just thought like, as an actress, 1117 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: that must have been helpful to have that visual of 1118 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: her real mom, you know, to play that kind of 1119 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: really emotional moment there that made. 1120 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: It was really really great at finding at like truly 1121 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 2: connecting with those emotions and those things, like the the 1122 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 2: little bits I've seen here and there, And then I 1123 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: remember working with it, like we worked together a lot 1124 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 2: near the end, did you. Yeah, they because they put 1125 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: David and Claire together. 1126 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: No, you've already had your thing? Did we in the 1127 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: beginning of Claire? No, but now it's come I think 1128 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: she's leaving the show soon, Lorraine. When does Claire's character 1129 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: leave the show again? 1130 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 2: No, I feel like she was there. 1131 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: I think it's this season, at the end of the season, 1132 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: then eight. 1133 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 2: The end of seven. 1134 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: But she is great. 1135 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 2: To do three seasons without Kathleen Robertson, there's no way, 1136 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: is there. 1137 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe end of seven she leaves and the seven Okay, 1138 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean when for that for that matter, for that point, 1139 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: like I Shehannon, just being in three seasons of the show, 1140 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: I know, it blows my mind because I'm like, wait, 1141 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: what that seemed like a lot longer than three seasons. 1142 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, how wait what season was it when Gabrielle left? 1143 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: We already saw that. So that was the season five 1144 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: she had a baby and moved, but then she came back. 1145 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 2: I love having I love the fact that it's two 1146 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 2: people with such terrible memories. 1147 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just physically right now, we're just. 1148 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 2: Like, I don't I literally don't remember anything. 1149 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: You know, people are listening right now being like, oh, 1150 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: they don't even know what they're talking about. You have 1151 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: no idea why do you do your research? 1152 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 2: David was wearing the purple shirt I love, Like Darren 1153 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: knows all of that stuff. Oh, David was wearing like 1154 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 2: a crocodile thing with the thing when he walked into 1155 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: the so and he and he entered the room, you know, 1156 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: left foot first, Like he knows the details of stuff, 1157 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, none of it. No. People ask me 1158 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 2: what was your favorite episode, and it's like, I don't. 1159 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 2: I honestly don't remember an episode. 1160 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what I say to that? Every time? 1161 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: I always say the pilot because it's the only one 1162 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: I can truly remember. 1163 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 2: Right, And the pilot was and it was special, yeah, 1164 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: like Tim Hunter directing it, Like I remember, I remember 1165 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 2: it all, and I remember us being on set and 1166 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: being like this is so cool, Like this is really 1167 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 2: fun doing something like this because I'd never seen it before, 1168 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: it had never been done before. 1169 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I always wish like that the show could have kept 1170 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: that that look, the visual even just the visual, how 1171 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: do you though? Like how because it was so like 1172 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: real and raw, like like an eighties rom com. We 1173 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: had no sets and then we just got confined to 1174 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: those walls on stages and the blocking and you. 1175 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Know, college I remember walking on the stage and seeing 1176 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 2: the college and going, oh my god, they have like 1177 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the quad, they have all the stuff. 1178 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: It was massive. 1179 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: We don't really need to go to Occidental College to 1180 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 2: shoot anything. 1181 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Oh it's not sacked. We loved getting out of that 1182 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: warehouse so nice. 1183 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 2: I loved going to Occidental. 1184 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: Any other characters we should talk about. We talked about 1185 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Val and her crazy scheme to get you to buy 1186 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: the club. 1187 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if she goes broke. 1188 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Yes, me too, I don't know what's going to happen. 1189 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: And then the Clarence Steve line. I think, you know, 1190 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be breaking up soon. 1191 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 2: How could they not? They don't like each other. 1192 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: They just like to have the makeup sex. 1193 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 2: It was a sweet moment at the end with Steve 1194 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 2: and Claire and the photo album. 1195 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so sweet. But do you love when 1196 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: you watch Especially when I watch Iron acting, it's just 1197 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: so much fun, Like I am, I have pure joy 1198 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 1: watching him all the time because you never know what 1199 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: he's going to do or say, like when he was 1200 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,439 Speaker 1: singing in the shower, it's just the last word. 1201 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: I'd like. I saw the things like uh, when Brandon 1202 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 2: sticks his head into talk and then he did like 1203 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: the pull himself out of the doorway. And I saw that, 1204 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, I remember that. 1205 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: We would like we would fit those in every scene. 1206 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 2: We could like that. 1207 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: I forgot about all the little things, all the little moments. Yeah, 1208 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 3: all the little stuff that we did, like good nighty. 1209 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Remember that good nighty. I said that to him recently 1210 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 3: in Belgium. 1211 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Nice nighty. 1212 01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1213 01:02:59,800 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1214 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I reminded him that the other day in when we 1215 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: were in Belgium, and it made him laugh. He was like, 1216 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,439 Speaker 1: oh my god. 1217 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1218 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just this has been the best having you 1219 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: on the show, and we. 1220 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Have accomplished nothing. This has been, for the most part, 1221 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 2: I would say, a really poor job at recapping an episode. 1222 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely horrible. 1223 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you're looking at hiring us just purely 1224 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: to recap things, you might want to rethink that. 1225 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Look, I'm doing my best. 1226 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 2: If you if you are looking to find two people 1227 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: reminiscing in a fun way, you've come to the right place. 1228 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: I know. 1229 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's fun because you know, people listening grew up 1230 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: with us. They feel so connected. Yeah, for sure, which 1231 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,959 Speaker 1: we know now from you know, being able to meet 1232 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: our fans at cons. 1233 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 2: And I get it. I understand it for sure. Best. 1234 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate you standing in for Torry today. 1235 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 2: Of course, Jen, this is super fun. Thank you for 1236 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 2: asking me to come in and do this. 1237 01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you are available. 1238 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 2: I so am my. It was super fun to watch 1239 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 2: an episode because I was yay. 1240 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you liked it. Okay, good. I have to 1241 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: remind everybody that next week we have season seven, episode 1242 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: thirty coming up Senior week, so be sure to watch 1243 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: it so we can rip it apart. 1244 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 1245 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: What is so we can tell you everything that we 1246 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: don't remember about it? Okay? 1247 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 2: What is everybody wearing? Oh man? 1248 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Brian, I love you. 1249 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 2: Bye, everyone, I love you too,