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Speaker 2: The US feels the heat from China's push on electric vehicles.

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Speaker 1: Intel will build a new manufacturing plant in Israel to

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Speaker 1: diversify more production outside of Asia.

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Speaker 3: B Lincoln and Sheen meet Possible With Shichimpeg still up

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Speaker 3: in the air, William Barr says the case against Trump

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Speaker 3: flawed person. Kishaa pulling down. I'm at Baxter with Global News.

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Speaker 4: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business

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Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Brian Curtiz.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the stories we're following today.

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Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary Pete Boodaget says the US must take steps

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Speaker 1: to cut into China's advantage in batteries that are used

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Speaker 1: the G seven Transport Ministers meeting, he said the US

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Speaker 5: Refining capacity on many of the key raw materials needed

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Speaker 1: Meantime, Ford share Bill Ford Junior told CNNA and the

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Speaker 1: This includes Ford building a battery plant in Michigan. Bloomberg

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Speaker 2: Intel is building a new manufacturing plant in Israel, as

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Speaker 2: We have more from Bloomberg's Thannis Pellegrini.

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Speaker 6: Intel has agreed in principle to build a chip plant

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Speaker 1: Boeing says it's preparing to accelerate production of the seven

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Speaker 1: Italian tire maker Pirelli is moving ahead on a plan

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Speaker 9: Parelli has called a board meeting to account for the

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis along with Rashad Salama and Doug Christner. So, Doug,

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Speaker 1: one of the things I'm interested in probing with guests

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Speaker 1: Is it the impact on earnings or maybe even something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most investors would hope. So now it's

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Speaker 1: time for global news. Both the US and China say

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Ian Marlow and Beijing says more meetings to come.

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Speaker 11: Here there's meetings with Chin Kong, the Chinese foreign minister today,

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see now. Christy is of course running against

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Speaker 3: Republican Congressman Jim Jordan, who says the documents were declassified.

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Speaker 11: I go on the president's word, and he said he did,

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Speaker 11: and the Supreme Court said, that's what count.

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Speaker 3: for Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishita's cabinet dropped twelve percentage

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis with Rashad

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Speaker 1: Salomat in Hong Kong, and our guests on the show

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Speaker 1: this morning is David Kotok, cio and chairman of Cumberland Advisors.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to put the question to you about

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Speaker 14: So I would say the FED is still the key

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Speaker 10: So that's ahead of US. I put number one is

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Speaker 14: I like what you've been reporting about seven hour meetings

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Speaker 10: Sorry, Chris Christy.

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Speaker 14: It's better to have a good outcome later than not

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Speaker 10: But I would say FED number one.

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Speaker 12: Geopolitics number two a true I mean, it's amazing how

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Speaker 10: So how has that?

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Speaker 12: You know, surely you know we got the dot plots,

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Speaker 12: How did you interpret those? How close is the Federal

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Speaker 14: Well, Rich, you identified the dilemma for the investor in

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Speaker 1: You know, given that the Fed has been hiking interest

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Speaker 14: It would we have never had this fast arise from

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Speaker 10: Markets wanted to pivot.

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Speaker 14: They wanted the FED to not only stop raising rates,

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Speaker 14: there's still liquidity in the system, and the FED, with

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Speaker 14: contagion spirallling downward with signature and SVB First Republic, what

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Speaker 10: In the US banking system.

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Speaker 14: So we had three banks, big shock, hundreds of billions

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Speaker 14: The people who lost were the shareholders and the debt

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Speaker 14: positive and it is offsetting the fear that took place

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Speaker 14: during that sequential bank failure period.

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Speaker 12: Fifty anniversary for Comblan Advisors, the S and P fifty

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Speaker 12: years ago was on one hundred and eight and the

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Speaker 10: Your thoughts, David, Oh well, thank you very much. Rich.

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Speaker 14: The next fifty years are going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 14: I intend to start on them tomorrow morning, and I

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Speaker 14: hope we can discuss them in good health all of us.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for the good wishes.

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