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Speaker 1: well earned, well deserved, right, But like it was time

421
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Speaker 1: to make a change. And whether it was the owner

422
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: leading this charge, whether it was John Schneider leading this charge,

423
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: the organization has a chance to be better moving forward now,

424
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: just because you fire a guy and it's the right move,

425
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: and you know that, Like this is not gonna be

426
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: easy publicly, New England's gonna go through that, Like is

427
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: the guy gonna be betteran Bill Belichick? Is the guy

428
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna be better? In Pete Carroll? History would say probably

429
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: not right, And it's difficult. The one thing I think

430
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Seattle really has going well, they got a ton going

431
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Speaker 1: for they're gm to me, is a top five guy

432
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: in the league. I think that's I know a lot

433
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: of people in the NFL, they would all say that

434
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: mean personally, just from the outside, I would definitely say that,

435
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of pushback will see some

436
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: of these moves. You understand, Pete Carroll was the boss.

437
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll like the reason they get Jamal Adams, Whose

438
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: idea you think that was. I'm not saying John's not

439
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: behind it, but like Pete Carroll led the quarterback decisions.

440
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: Who was the reason that they drafted Russell Wilson? Who

441
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: was the guy that wanted to trade Russell Wilson for

442
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: the number one overall picks? So we could take Josh Allen.

443
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that pulled off that fleecing fleecing of

444
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Johns Schneidel, to me, you could make

445
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: an argument if you just pulled people around the league.

446
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think John Schnyder's like

447
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: a top three demo manager. And I think this organization

448
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: they got some holes. Defensively, they haven't been great, but

449
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: they got a couple of pieces, and offensively they have

450
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: a ton They got good young offensive linemen. They have

451
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, who to me is one of the more

452
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: talented young running backs in the NFL. His one season

453
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: in college literally got Mel Tucker ninety five million dollars

454
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: because he couldn't keep his you know what in his pants.

455
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: He I think lost a lot of that money his

456
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: own fault. But remove Kenneth Walker from mel Tucker's career loser.

457
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker stud love watching that guy play. DK Metcalf

458
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: like the poor man's version of Terrell Owens, Jackson Smith

459
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: and Jigba Stud. Tyler Lockett's a little older, but clearly

460
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: he literally loves Seattle. He's an excellent wide receiver, so

461
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: skill wise has never been their issue. And to me,

462
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: they have all their draft picks, well, definitely their first

463
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: round pick. I haven't looked at all their picks. This

464
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: is going to be a highly desired job ownership, a

465
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of money, GM, big time inheriting some talent on

466
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Speaker 1: the roster. You know, check check winning culture. It's got

467
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: some flaws, but these guys are used to winning. I

468
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: mean they've won eighteen games last two years. Once they

469
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: shipp out Russell Wilson, and I wonder if This move

470
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: happens regardless if they had made the playoffs, because they

471
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: got swept this year by McVeigh. Now that his team's good,

472
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: they've lost five straight games of the forty nine ers

473
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Speaker 1: post Russell Wilson, and a lot of those have been

474
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: thorough ass kickings. They barely just beat the Arizona Cardinals.

475
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: I mean, if Prater makes the kick, they lose. So

476
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: they're kind of getting worked in the division, which is

477
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: a problem. Like that's the micro climate. It's like, listen,

478
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Shan and Antea McVay are clearly two of the

479
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: best young coaches in the NFL. You could argue the

480
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: two best, and Jonathan Gannon looks like they kind of

481
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: got their shit together. And Kyler Murray and the Arizona

482
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: Cardinals have just always given us problems. That's the way

483
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of worked inside the organization. So this is

484
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: no brainer. It really is. In Seattle, people, I get

485
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of dms. Obviously I answer them on the

486
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: mail bag about the Pete Carroll situation before today, and

487
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while, like this is

488
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: the right move. This is one hundred percent the right move.

489
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Now the key is and listen. The reason John Schneider

490
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Speaker 1: is there is because of Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll hired him,

491
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll put him in position of authority. Pete Carroll

492
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: let him grow into one of the best gms in

493
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Speaker 1: the league. But I bet John Schneider I haven't even

494
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: read if he's had a quote yet, or whenever he

495
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: gives a press conference, he'll be the first to say

496
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: I owe this career. I'm sure he's got multiple homes now,

497
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: a ton of money, a Super Bowl ring to that

498
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: guy with the new balances on to choose gum like

499
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: it's the last you know thing that's ever going to

500
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: enter his mouth. And one of the great all time

501
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: football characters we've ever seen. I mean, he's had an

502
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: incredible twenty year run. He resurrected one of the great

503
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: brands in college football. Now he was using ANIL before

504
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: nil was legal, But that shit. They had a squad.

505
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: They would go into the SEC and they beat their ass.

506
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: They dominated out West. They became like an NFL team.

507
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Speaker 1: At one point in time during Pete Carroll's era, during

508
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: the USC run, there was a legitimate conversation could this

509
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: team beat an NFL team? And it was like I

510
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: was in college. You would have conversations now, whether the

511
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: outcome series or not, like those were happening. Why because

512
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: his team was literally littered with first round d after

513
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: first rounder at every position. And then he went to

514
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Seattle hired John Schneider and within a couple of years

515
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: has Russell Wilson, has Sherman, has Cam Chancellor, has our

516
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Earld Thomas, and it just starts beating the shit out

517
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: of everybody. They had the number one scoring defense. I

518
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: think for four straight years they won a Super Bowl.

519
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: They're a Marshawn handoff away from winning two straight Super Bowls,

520
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: and they just kept sustaining success. Yeah, they didn't win

521
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: playoff games every year, but they never sucked. They never

522
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: were bad. I think the worst year under Pete Carroll

523
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: was nine to seven or nine and eight. It's a

524
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: lot like Mike Thomin But I say it all the time,

525
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: just because you don't bought them out doesn't mean it's

526
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: not over. You don't need to go bankrupt for me

527
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: to tell you you're bad at business. Right, So I

528
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: just think that Seattle had a strong look internally and

529
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: they made the right decision, and this is it sucks

530
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: for Pete. These last couple days could not have been

531
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: easy for him, right because accepting Listen, I remember the

532
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: first time when Howie Roseman called me and said, yeah,

533
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: we're not going to renew your contract, which I already knew,

534
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: like I knew I was not coming back. And I

535
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: was twenty seven, twenty eight years old when I heard that.

536
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll's been fired before. It's the worst thing

537
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life at the time, right, professionally, definitely,

538
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: because I got he you know, it's just it's a

539
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: hard thing to hear. Like you're prideful, you're ambitious, you've

540
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: built your entire life off trying to attain success and

541
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: keep moving up, and then you're told that, and it's

542
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: like then you realize as you get older, like this,

543
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: some certain businesses are a little different than others, you know,

544
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: and that's this business. And really in modern day football,

545
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: you're judged obviously, if you're not making the playoffs, you're

546
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: not going to last long. Like Arthur Smith three straight

547
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: seven win season, see you, Josh McDaniels losing to Division

548
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: three players losing to Baker Mayfield off the street, like

549
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: it's just like, what are we doing losing to Jeff Saturday?

550
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: Those are easy? These ones are difficult. These ones are hard.

551
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: But like you eventually need to draw a line in this,

552
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: ind is are we just gonna continue this? So I've

553
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: been hammering this about the Steelers forever. I love Mike Tomlin,

554
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: like I'm a Mike Tomlin fan. If Mike Tomlin was available,

555
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: I'd be all over him as another organization. I just

556
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: think it's run its course, just like Pete Carroll, it

557
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: had run its course. So I props and I think

558
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all over good coaches. And I know

559
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: that they've linked to dan Quinn because he was there.

560
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty risky. I think there's an element

561
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: with dan Quinn that's like a poor man's Pete Carroll. Now, clearly,

562
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: one thing he's shown in Dallas is really good, you know,

563
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: scheming defense, He's adapted a lot, but it's so predicated

564
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: off the offensive guy. Now, I would imagine, I'm just

565
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna throw out a guess, would dan Quinn would his

566
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator be Kellen Moore? Maybe they're close. We saw

567
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore outside of Dallas this year. Is kind of

568
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: a struggle and he had justin Herbert right, would he

569
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: go after one of the Shanahan guys. I don't know,

570
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: but it's very predicated on the offensive coordinator. Or it's

571
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: like middle golf. You like Vrabel, he's a defensive guy. Yeah,

572
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: because I know whose offensive coordinator is, It's Arthur Smith.

573
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I also know that if I get Rabel and Arthur Smith,

574
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to necessarily worry about Arthur Smith becoming

575
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: a head coach. In a year. It will get into

576
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: the Bears, Like if the Bears hire some good young

577
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: OC and they get Caleb Williams all of a sudden

578
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: in a year like that guy's interviewing for head coaching jobs.

579
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Look at Demiko. Demigo's a stun He takes Bobby Slow.

580
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Slok has one good year with CJ. Stroud as

581
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: the rookie, greatest rookie season we've ever seen. Boby Slogs

582
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: interviewing everywhere. It's a very risky turnover with the second

583
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: most important guy in your organization. You could argue the

584
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: head coach and the quarterback are kind of equal, right

585
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: New England people would say one's more important. Well, yeah,

586
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady but most quarterbacks are very dependent on

587
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: the coordinator, so I just think that it's gonna be interesting.

588
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I would lean offense to me. They have offensive pieces pieces.

589
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: If I was Ben Johnson like, I would be all

590
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: over this. If I was any good young offensive coach.

591
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I know, I have a general manager who can support me,

592
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: and they have offensive weapons. But I can immediately throw

593
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: up points. And I have my first round pick, so

594
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: we can be in the mix to draft a quarterback

595
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: high right. We could trade up, you know, get a

596
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: guy who I can function with right away, or worst

597
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: case scenario, we just keep building this up and I

598
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: play another year with Gino Andrew Locke, which are capable

599
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: you see with Pete like in your offensive weapons that

600
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: you can compete to win nine or ten games. So

601
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: there's a big difference of winning nine games with a

602
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: brand new coach then winning nine games with a coach

603
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: in his fourteenth year. It doesn't feel the same. One

604
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: feels like you're trending in the right direction. The other

605
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: one feels like you're stagnant or going backwards. So I

606
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: think this was shocking when you see a headline. Very

607
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: understandable when you take a second to think about it

608
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: in the right move. So Seattle is immediately one of

609
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: the top destinations now with all the available like better

610
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: develop better availability to me than Washington, better than Atlanta,

611
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: better than the Raiders. Right, Obviously the Chargers are just

612
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: number one because they have a high level quarterback who's

613
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: under contract. But this, this is a fantastic job, Wink

614
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: and Brian Dable. There have been stories over the last

615
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours of Martindale refusing to

616
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: talk to him, cussing them out, storm them out of

617
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the building, flying to Florida, and just not picking up

618
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: his calls, refusing to basically talk or do business with

619
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: these guys. And my take on this is simple. Just

620
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: because you're in a position of authority does not mean

621
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: that I have to respect you. Right, It doesn't mean

622
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: that I can act like a fool. But just because

623
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: you're the boss or the head coach doesn't immediately mean

624
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: that you're guaranteed respect. Just because you're the quarterback doesn't

625
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: mean everyone's going to look at you like a leader,

626
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: like you have leadership qualities, and Wink Martindale, I don't

627
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: know either of these guys. Like people think like you're

628
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: just doing winks dirty work. Never met the guy. I

629
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: don't know the guy like I'll be the first two

630
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: met from what I huge ego, big personality. Here's what

631
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: I know, Brian d a Ball has treated people for

632
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Speaker 1: two years terribly. And it's football. I worked in football

633
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Speaker 1: for years. I've had things thrown at me in an

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Speaker 1: office setting. I've been cussed out. You're allowed. This is

635
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: not a random office job you're used to, you know, tense, contentious,

636
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: just uncomfortable environment part of the business, right, this is

637
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: this ain't fucking softball here. No issue with getting on

638
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: guys right when they're not performing, But when you consistently

639
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: talk down to others who are older and have accomplishments,

640
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. They're not gonna respect you. And

641
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: when I think, like, what are your pelts on the wall?

642
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: If Wing Martindale he fired on Monday, Wing Martindale's right

643
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: hand guy didn't tell him, just fired him, right, So

644
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Wink was furious, storms out mfs. I'm sure do that

645
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: on purpose, like he was trying to fuck with them,

646
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: which like we act so when the giants leak all

647
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: these stories to the New York Post about Wink being

648
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: the nut job, like they're absolving themselves, specifically Brian Dabole

649
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: for creating the situation. It takes two to tango, and

650
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: to me like, did Wink handle it perfectly? Of course not.

651
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: Does Brian Dayball have the resume and the record to

652
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: just scream like it's one thing to scream at younger coaches,

653
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: but to just be all over this guy twenty four

654
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: to seven, three sixty five. So when the story leaks

655
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: that he goes in the defensive meeting room and goes,

656
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: does anyone have a problem with me? And no one

657
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: says they have a problem with them. Everyone's like, see,

658
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: like why didn't they speak up? Then this is a

659
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: year and a half. This is you know, twenty months

660
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: into the operation. Once you get to a line where

661
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: it's like fuck this guy, you think I'm gonna stand up,

662
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, you need to do this, this and this better,

663
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, this is the big leagues. You can't

664
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Speaker 1: figure it out yourself. I just listened to some of

665
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: Lombardi's podcasts. You want here. He knows both guys. He's

666
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: telling you like Dave All does not handle himself well

667
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: at all. So when it gets to the point the

668
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: tipping point, don't expect. Oh, let's just figure this out.

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Speaker 1: Big Martin Dale's making three million dollars a year. He

670
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: had a three year contract around nine million dollars. Doesn't

671
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: he's already rich. He's like, double middle fingers. I'm out, bro,

672
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with this. Do you think that even

673
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: if you weren't on the same page, he would have

674
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: acted like this to him? And John Harbaugh broke up.

675
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: They didn't have this happen. Do you think he would

676
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: have acted like this with Andy Reid Er Bill Belichick?

677
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: So just because you become the boss, just because you

678
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: become the head coach, doesn't mean that you just can

679
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: treat everyone like shit. I saw it when I was

680
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL with a guy named Ryan Grigson. How

681
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: did that work out? You have to have a level

682
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: of like, I have to earn your respect. I can't

683
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: just be a bully all the time, especially if I'm

684
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: not great at my job and think people are gonna

685
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: kiss your ass. Like, why did everyone line up behind

686
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? One he treated him well, and two they

687
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: respected anything he brought to the table, right because of

688
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: his pelts on the wall, because of his work ethic,

689
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: because of the way he acted and conducted himself and

690
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: obviously his accomplishments. So if he wanted to light you

691
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: up after you screwed up on a route, you gotta listen.

692
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: If Andy Reid calls you into the offices in your

693
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: ass about something, you're like, well, this guy kind of

694
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Twenty plus years, averaging ten plus

695
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: wins a year, multiple Super Bowls, four Super Bowl appearances. Right,

696
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: if Pete Carroll's in you like, hey, maybe I should listen.

697
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Don't you think Russell Wilson might have benefited if he

698
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: would have listened to some of Pete's advice, Like, Hey, Russell,

699
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: I've been around the game a little longer than you.

700
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: How about you listen to me. But how did Russell

701
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: handle it? Not like Wink, very passive aggressively. What he

702
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: did was constantly leak stuff. Let Russ cook if they

703
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: were to trade me, here's where I want to go. No,

704
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: you should have just drawn a line on the stand

705
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: being like he got on the same page. But he wouldn't.

706
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Too big of an ego, And this is a situation

707
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: some big egos and just ultimately no respect. Wink Martindale

708
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: respects you know, listen, we all get to a point,

709
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: We've all been there at different times in our life

710
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: where we don't respect the other person, right, whether it's

711
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: a boss, whether it's a partner, whether someone in our industry.

712
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: And once you get to a certain point, you do

713
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: not care, You have zero energy, You refuse to play

714
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: top politics where you're even gonna fake it. What's the

715
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: point there is none? So that's where I think they got.

716
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: And as texting someone, one of the top giants reporters,

717
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: buddy of mine, as he texted me, I don't know.

718
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say his name because I don't

719
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: know if he wants this out there, but he was like,

720
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: of course this was gonna end fast, and they became

721
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: to a mutually departing a ways because he's like, maur

722
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: ain't doing the negative headlines, Like he ain't going down

723
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: this road. That's not how he operates. He wants this

724
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: over and done with. But I think if you're John,

725
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Maury kind of got a look internally like do we

726
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: got a problem because we were losing coaches left and right?

727
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't think wink Martin Dale's you know, the

728
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: only guy that thinks like that. So do we have

729
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: a serious internal problem when it comes to our head

730
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: coach and the way he treats people. You think Tom

731
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: Coughlin was easy to deal with, of course not. But

732
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: you know what Tom Coughlin was. He was respectful. And listen,

733
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Speaker 1: I'm not acting like I know everything, Brian Dabeles said

734
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: to every coach. I just know the entire league thinks

735
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: that it has not been pretty and it's not going well.

736
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Because when you're gonna scream at guys, you better be

737
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: the hardest worker and the most knowledgeable when you're a

738
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: head coach, because the moment you do that every single

739
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: day and people start going, does this guy really know

740
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: what he's doing? Does this guy know what he's doing?

741
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: He just fired his offensive line coach, which is a

742
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: good friend of his that came with him from Buffalo.

743
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Well is it, Brian Daboll, an offensive guy should be

744
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: able to help impact the offensive line. And this is

745
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: where it gets easy. When you're a coach. You start

746
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: pointing fingers. Not my fault, this guy's fault. This guy

747
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: as a fucking idiot. This guy's the problem. This is

748
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: And listen, Sirianni, I'm not comparing him to day Ball

749
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: this way people like Sirianni, but when it comes to

750
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: like impacting the team, like what are you doing? How

751
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: do you impact the team?

752
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: Right?

753
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just I refuse to act

754
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: like now, oh see, Wink was the crazy guy. No,

755
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: that's the Giants are good at Lencoln. Their side of

756
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: the story, day Ball, Shane don't want to look like

757
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: the bad guys, but takes two to tango. Is Wink

758
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: absolved from this? Of course not. But I don't blame

759
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: him because the moment you don't respect someone, I've been there.

760
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure many people listening have been there, and you

761
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: know that it's over. Whether it's a personal relationship or

762
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: a professional relationship, it's borderline impossible to even pretend at

763
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: that point. And that's where I think both of them

764
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: found themselves in this situation. I think everyone can appreciate

765
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: a guy basically going fu fu, you're cool, f you,

766
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm out and just leaving. Especially listen, I don't care

767
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: how rich you are, and obviously if you're like Bezos

768
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: or elon three million dollars, but if you're an NFL coach,

769
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: especially a lifetime assistant, like you still got three million

770
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: dollars like risking that he didn't even flinch think about

771
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: it now. I don't know the outcome, whether they bought

772
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: him out, how it worked, whether giving him the money,

773
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: who knows. So maybe he ends up keeping the cash.

774
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Speaker 1: But it didn't cross his mind that I need to

775
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: get this figured out so I keep my three million dollars.

776
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: It was I hate you this much, we'll fucking figure that.

777
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: If I lose it, so be it. I'm not spending

778
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: another minute in this building pretending to be one of

779
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Speaker 1: your coworkers, and you as my boss, who I don't

780
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: even think knows what he's doing. The Bears will end

781
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: on this. Chicago Bears today announced that Matt Eberflus will return,

782
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sound like a hater here. I think

783
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: Matti Ebraflus is a fine defensive mind. Under no circumstances.

784
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Speaker 1: With the biggest offseason in the history of the franchise.

785
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: They had the first pick, they need a quarterback, and

786
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: they have the ninth pick, meaning if several quarterbacks go,

787
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: they're going to get one of the top players in

788
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: the draft. Could I keep Matt Everfluz around. I think

789
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: this reflects an organization that one financially is not willing

790
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: to swim in the deep end. Because this is a

791
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: no brainer. You fire Eberflus, you are immediately one of

792
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: the top destinations. But think about this, if they fired Eberflus,

793
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren, the quote unquote president that all these guys

794
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: are answering to, what do you think he'd be to

795
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: all these candidates? Well, Raybol he's a little unsure. Harbaugh

796
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: wants no part of it. Ben Johnson doesn't feel quite comfortable.

797
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: He'd be a red flag. I've been saying this for

798
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: a while, is when you have a president who not

799
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: the owner, the president who's supposed to be in charge

800
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: of business, who's pulling all the strings football wise, it's

801
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: actually easier to keep ever Flus around because everyone's got

802
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: to answer to him. Here's the problem, and this is

803
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: the second thing. And you're gonna hear this. If you're

804
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, who's gonna be the top pick. They're gonna

805
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: trade justin fields. Justin fields cannot play within the pocket.

806
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: They just saw a team that they have to beat

807
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and their quarterback who has started one season against a

808
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: quarterback who started three season and previously at Ohio State,

809
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: the other guy was at Utah State. Was it on

810
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: a completely different level. You'd be like, well, it's the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the offensive coordinator, and I'm not acting like

812
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: they're the offensive coordinator. They fired him and the rest

813
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: of his buddies, so they got to blow out the

814
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: offensive step is the next Bill Wall, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannan,

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Speaker 1: and Andy Reid. No one's saying but to just assume that,

816
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: like if Andy Reid had been the offensive coordinator for

817
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the Bears this year, justin fields would have looked dramatically better.

818
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: If you can't consistently make throws and play from within

819
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: the pocket and handle pressure from within the pocket, it

820
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: is very difficult to play in the National Football League,

821
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: and to me, it was on full display against the

822
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, who do not even have a good defense.

823
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Speaker 1: So I I think that they're gonna trade him and

824
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: who I guess, the second round pick, maybe a third

825
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: round pick, who knows financially the contract make it a

826
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: little complicated. But if I'm Caleb Williams, hell, if I'm

827
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Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks, but definitely cayleb Am, I gonna

828
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: go to a place where their coach is clearly on

829
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: the hot seat heading into the season. Right, if the

830
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Bears win seven games, Matt Eberflus is gone. Well, if

831
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Speaker 1: Matt Eberflutz has gone, whoever he hires the offensive coordinator

832
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: probably gone too. So I'm going to a place where

833
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: my coach could be gone by Halloween. Everyone else is fired,

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Speaker 1: and we're starting all over in a franchise that is

835
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: historically terrible offensively besides, like Walter Payton, and an organization

836
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of cheap like once upon a time, ELI,

837
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: led by arch E, was like, we ain't fucking going

838
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: to San Diego. Nope, and look what happened after. They

839
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: were pretty well run organization with Marty Schottnham. But they said,

840
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: under no circumsance and Star were playing in this place,

841
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: we ain't doing it. Nope, No chance actually worked out

842
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: for both parties. Philip went there, had a great career,

843
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: made a lot of money. ELI went to the Giants,

844
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: bigger market, became a bigger star, one to Super Bowls.

845
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: But they drew a line in the sand and listen

846
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: the Bears as a team, they got some good players

847
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: DJ Moore stud I mean baller, good defensive players, but

848
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: it would make me very very nervous. It really would.

849
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: So if you tell me, like, Jim Harbaugh is the

850
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Washington coach, and I was like, fuck, I'd rather play

851
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: for Jim Harbaugh. Look what happens to his quarterbacks. Look

852
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: what happens to his teams. I don't trust this place,

853
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not at a Bears hater. I want her

854
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: to be good. I'm a big market guy. I don't

855
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: root for a fucking little guy. I like watching the Yankees.

856
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't like the Lakers, but I like watching Tiger Woods.

857
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm here to watch Brady and Mahomes. I ain't some

858
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: little engine that could here. I'm rooting for the big dogs.

859
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: I wish the Bears were good. They playing in division

860
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: with the Packers. News flash, not going away. The Lions

861
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: last I checked roster pretty fucking good, not going away either.

862
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: So you better get this right. So you have the

863
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: biggest offseason in franchise history because of the capitol that

864
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: you have available to you in the draft, and because

865
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: of the position you are with drafting a quarterback and

866
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: having a field and all the options, all the optionality

867
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: you have, and you just run it back. That is

868
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: the most barest thing ever it really is. It's one

869
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: thing to run it back if you know, well, Eviraflu's

870
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: been the playoffs two of the last five years, He's

871
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: proven he can. This guy hasn't proven anything because their

872
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: defense was good against the Atlanta Falcons and the Arizona Cardinals.

873
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: I like what the Arizona Cardinals did at the end

874
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: of the year. They have like two good players. It's

875
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: like Kyler James Connor and the tight end.

876
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: You're just.

877
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: I think sometimes and one thing I learned in the

878
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: NFL is winning can band age your issues, and winning

879
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: definitely can bandage your issues when you're not beating anybody.

880
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: So instead of going six and eleven, we end up

881
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: owing eight to nine because down the stretch, instead of

882
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: playing you know, the forty nine Ers, the Packers and

883
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, we got like the Falcons, the Packers, in

884
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: the Aarzon the Cardinals. So our record might look like

885
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: two games better than it actually is. And that's what

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: I think just happened. So you get a couple more wins,

887
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: but you know what, it turns out like, ah, I

888
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: don't know. And then all of a sudden next year

889
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: you're one to three and people like, what the hell,

890
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: like the Pack the Lions, it was twofold. You could

891
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: see the momentum because you could see the skill, and

892
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: then they had the draft capital and they hit on

893
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: the picks and clearly they had an incredible offensive coordinator.

894
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: So the pressure of the offensive coordinator coming to this

895
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: place is gonna be immense. You're also going to a

896
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: place that, like my coaches on not So are they

897
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: just getting a top notch offensive coordinator. They will have

898
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: options because it's the NFL coordinator jobs. As we saw

899
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: with Wink makes three million, This coordinator job will pay

900
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: two million dollars. Like how many w two employees you

901
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: know making two million dollars? Like it's it's an elite

902
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: American job. I don't care what industry you work in,

903
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: but I just think it's the wrong decision all the

904
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: way around. You put yourself now in flux with the

905
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Caleb situation, uh two, you put you just roll back

906
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: a coach on the hot seat when you have all

907
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: this pressure over the next nine months. I just think

908
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: it's done. But I also think it's very Chicago Bears.

909
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: It's what a mom and pop shop would do. Would

910
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles have done this, would the Cowboys have done this.

911
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: With the forty nine ers have done this? Would the

912
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: big money teams have done this? No fucking chance. Okay,

913
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: back at it again. With my main man, who is

914
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: healthy heading into the playoffs. I have not talked to

915
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: him since I got really bold. We we worked Sark

916
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the Washington Huskies and then we lost the national championship.

917
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: But I was in the casino Stucky on Friday and

918
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: my buddies, like you know, they have these draft kings.

919
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: Casinos they have these like live They're almost like a

920
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: it's like a big video game, but it's all gambling.

921
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It has all the odds. It's it's like

922
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: a massive smartphone. And I live bet Chris Kirk in

923
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: the golf tournament thirty five bucks won meet almost eleven dollars.

924
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: It's one of the great live bet thirty five dollars.

925
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I think it's humanly possible. I mean, I don't think

926
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: you get those returns if you got as an early

927
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: investor in Uber. So I'm feeling good heading into the

928
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: weekend and I'm leaning. I'm leaning rams looking at the board,

929
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: but I'm yet to be uh solidified in my mindset

930
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: in this Week's. It's one of those that's easy to

931
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: think jockey chocky jockey, and obviously we always historically have

932
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: seen some weird shit happen.

933
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well, first of all, did you did you

934
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: I know you went all in on Washington in the semies?

935
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Did you double up?

936
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: What happened was I took I took eight grand into

937
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: the casino. I pushed out. I at first I was

938
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: gonna put it all on the money line, and then

939
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is kind of stupid. They're giving you

940
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: some points. So I took four grand plus four hit

941
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: three grand money line. So I immediately won right away.

942
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, if I'm gonna bet

943
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: on them to win this game, I think they're gonna

944
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: be in the National Championship. Everyone was basically two to one.

945
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: They were seven to one. I'm like, why as well

946
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: sprinkle on seven to one? So I had just all

947
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: gravy seven to one ticket. Fundamentally, don't believe in hedging

948
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: unless it's like gonna change my life. I had one

949
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. I would have thrown fifty, but for

950
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars that was already profited. I was like

951
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: fucking I'll let it ride. And it was clearly we

952
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: were in a little trouble. But uh, the right team

953
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: won the right team one. But I stand by seven

954
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: to one odds with an NFL quarterback. I do think

955
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: the Washington was a little not properly valued in the operation.

956
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?

957
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree they and look there, I mean

958
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: their run defense cleaned it up in the second half,

959
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: and Panis was he you know, he just was a

960
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: little Michigan was getting pressure, which they know. Washington give

961
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: up pressure all year to anybody. Uh, their offensive line

962
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: of their worst day. I mean he saw their tackles.

963
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: We're getting be have them getting beat all year in

964
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: Michigan's secondary is actually really good there. And but still

965
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: look it was a seven point game late in the third.

966
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: McCarthy scrambles on that third and Long backed up in

967
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: his own tent. They get the midfield on it. Instead

968
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: of Washington starting to midfield, they start their in tent.

969
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: And then you have that and I had no dog

970
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: in the fight. I had the under Uh you have that.

971
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: They think they both teams got away with a number

972
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: of holes, and then you call that hole on that

973
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: long pass which was such a big swing in the game.

974
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: And then really the only explosive pass he hit all game.

975
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the right team won. But that

976
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: was a very questionable call. And despite the start, Washington

977
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: did make some good adjustments in the in the run

978
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: defense and they s thought a shot. But I think

979
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: Michigan was the rightful winner. But yeah, I think that

980
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: a lot.

981
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: I think the Michigan d lineman. They said this during

982
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: the game, and I read it after had said because

983
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Michigan had won the Joe Moore Award the last two

984
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: years in Washington won this year, like, let's put the

985
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: award on the table basically going into this game, and

986
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: I thought they got fucking worked. I mean the Garden Center,

987
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: there were a couple of plays where Washington's guards were

988
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: elevated on their back. Yeah, you know, so it was

989
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, I understand Pennis has been a big reason

990
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: why they haven't been sacked. He's just kind of a

991
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: natural in the pocket. He's got a good feel. But

992
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: when you have NFL d linemen, their guys are going

993
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: to get drafted just in your grill immediately. I mean,

994
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Peyton Manning, like he was.

995
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: He was getting pepper, and Michigan has the corners that

996
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: most teams don't that they can play fighter. So you're

997
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: not just gonna have wide up in guys right away

998
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: that you can one read off to.

999
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: So well, number two is an NFL guide. He was

1000
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: going around with the dunes a the whole time, and

1001
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: even those guys had some moments where they were open. Pennis.

1002
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I honestly, he just you know that that's a game.

1003
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: I was anointing him after the Texas game. Texas defense

1004
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: kind of stinks beside the D line. That's a game.

1005
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: That's the Michigan's more like an NFL team, And I

1006
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: understand if I was a GM I'd be a little concerned.

1007
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: Two things. One, as you hit him, he was all

1008
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: over the place. And two one knock is like the

1009
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: health Like the Oregon game, when you pepper them, it

1010
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: feels like he's not gonna be able to get up.

1011
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean he was getting same deal. Remember

1012
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: Oregon in Seattle. It was like, are they gonna have

1013
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: to carry him like Byron Leftwich? Same? I was like, God,

1014
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: is he gonna make it through this game?

1015
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Well? He has two past knee injuries. He's a little

1016
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: older too, so there's definitely gonna be some reservations from

1017
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: NFL gms. I'll be curious to see where i'd go.

1018
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: Twenties. I bet when the dust settles twenties. Yeah, because

1019
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: he's not gonna fall to like pick fifty, but he's

1020
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: probably not going to go in the top tennish, But

1021
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't be exactly what Sean Payton, Yeah, you know,

1022
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball fast, accurate. Yeah, it was

1023
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: the guy. There was a lot of NFL talent. But

1024
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get to the National Football League. Since

1025
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: I talked to you last, the Bills officially owned the Dolphins,

1026
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: which we saw coming about five weeks ago. Pretty crazy

1027
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: that when ty Dunn wrote that article, it felt like

1028
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: God that their seasons falling apart. Are they going to

1029
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: fire Sean McDermott. The building was on fire. I don't

1030
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: think they ever lost after that. I mean, they were

1031
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: think about this sucky. They were six and six, the

1032
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: Eagles were ten and one, and they both finished with

1033
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: the same record. That's pretty nuts.

1034
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: It insane. They caught fire at the right time. They

1035
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: were a bit unlucky too, or in the season in

1036
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: close games, and you know, they have that loss in

1037
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: overtime to the Eagles, and everything was there for the

1038
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: formula was there and they added respect. What happened with

1039
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo is they started off okay and they hit like this. Injuries, Yeah,

1040
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: six games skid. They had a lot of defensive injuries,

1041
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: lost Milano, Trey White. They went out signed ra Seul Douglas.

1042
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: He's been massive, one of the best. He's been one

1043
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: of the best cornerbacks by some of the advanced metrics

1044
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's really solidified the d You know,

1045
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: they made some stematic changes. Some of the guys who

1046
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: were getting more reps obviously adjusted got better. They got

1047
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Dake one Jones back now, so we'll see if I

1048
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: think we're still Douglas is going to play this week

1049
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: this I will say that historically, double digit favorites in

1050
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs are a good bet. People don't want

1051
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: to bet. Everyone wants to bet the double digit underdog

1052
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL playoffs, right, But generally there's a reason

1053
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: why a team is a double digit favorite. Since twenty ten,

1054
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 2: double digit favorites in the NFL are eleven and four

1055
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: against the spread. I did the reason this game is

1056
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: very and for what it's worth, this applies to four games. Now,

1057
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: this is just a trend, doesn't you know. I don't.

1058
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: I think every situation is unique. But inexperienced quarterbacks Historically,

1059
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: some quarterbacks making their first playoff start against the quarterback

1060
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: who has playoff experience, it has already started a playoff

1061
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: game in his spare career are seventeen thirty five and

1062
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: one against the spread thirty two point seven percent seventeen

1063
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: thirty six straight up. So just a straight up record.

1064
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: And if you look at their numbers, even some of

1065
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: the most league quarterbacks in the NFL in NFL history,

1066
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: their first playoff game, Peyton Manning, whoever, yeah has really

1067
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: they've just been poor statistically, even you know, especially if

1068
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 2: it's on the road.

1069
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think out if we're talking Stroud to

1070
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph.

1071
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: And Jordan Love, now I don't necessarily think that apply.

1072
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Like Love is playing so well, Stroud seems different, and

1073
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Love and Stroud have kind of been playing like Stroud

1074
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: played in the playoff game last week on the road,

1075
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: yeah against the Colts. That same with same with Love,

1076
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: yeah and Love the like Yeah, the past couple of

1077
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: weeks has been playing in playoff games, and they're playing

1078
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 2: at a different level. You know, these quarterbacks who don't

1079
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: have much experience, who aren't great, and they're going on

1080
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: the road in these in bad conditions. Now, what makes

1081
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: this game very difficult to handicap?

1082
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: Now?

1083
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: Because I would lean Buffalo, here is the weather, so

1084
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: you could have as of right now, it's five we're

1085
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: five days out from Sunday when the game is, but

1086
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: we could have I think last night in Buffalo there

1087
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: was sixty to seventy mile on hour win us. I

1088
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: think as of right now it's projected to be like thirty,

1089
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: which is extremely detrimental to offense, to kicking, which is

1090
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: why you've seen this total come down. It's like thirty

1091
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: five and a half. So it's difficult to lay ten

1092
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: in a game where the total is thirty.

1093
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: How when you're win gus? And how cool are we

1094
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: talking like twenties?

1095
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: Are we talking twenties? So the g low twenties and yeah,

1096
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: so it's kind of like, I like, now the Steelers

1097
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: just want to run the ball. This is kind of

1098
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: like Steeler weather, Like they wouldn't want to get go

1099
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: on a fast track against the Bills, so we also

1100
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: could get snow. So yeah, I have to watch the

1101
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: weather here. I would lean Buffalo. I just think look

1102
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: that if you look at the Steelers defensive splits without

1103
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: wat over the years, they are drastic and he's just

1104
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: a huge loss on that defense. They also have so

1105
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: many other missing pieces on the back end. They've had

1106
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: a lot of linebacker injuries. We'll see if Minka Fitzpatrick coman. Yeah,

1107
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: their safeties, you know, their corners aren't great. But I

1108
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: think Buffalo can really take advantage over the middle of

1109
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: the field and even if there is win. Now, there's

1110
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: a point where wind just kills everybody. Now, even do

1111
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: you remember that game. There was a I think it

1112
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: was a Thursday or something game against the Patriots when

1113
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: the Bills played the.

1114
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: Patriots, and it was that Jones threw it three times.

1115
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that game was. It was Monday night football,

1116
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: Monday Night football. You could still see Alan made some

1117
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: throws like, Yeah, he's a quarterback that, you know, much

1118
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: more than Mason Rudolph, more more of the most quarterbacks

1119
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: in the NFL that can actually deal with those conditions.

1120
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: He has the arm strength, his legs will be huge

1121
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: in this game, just him running if there's gonna be

1122
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: designed runs for him. But there is a point where,

1123
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: like it's so windy and the conditions are so bad

1124
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: depending on the snow, that both teams are just gonna

1125
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: be handing it off and the game becomes so ugly

1126
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: that I couldn't like ten in a playoff game. Like

1127
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: he just takes one broken Steelers runner, you know, like

1128
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: we saw against the Ravens last week. You just get

1129
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: a slant and you're going.

1130
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: You have been running the ball better second half of

1131
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, Naji's been Listen, I'm not the

1132
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: biggest Najie Harris fan. He's look good, I'd say when

1133
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 1: I've watched in the last couple of weeks. Obviously, warn

1134
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: explosive players. So like you said, if it gets to

1135
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: a point where it's has vibes of that Monday night game,

1136
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: ten points you under no circumstances can you not take

1137
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: plus ten?

1138
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Yep? Agreed. So as of right now, that's just a

1139
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: wait and see for me. I got to see how

1140
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: bad the weather is and with the Lake of Fact,

1141
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: like this happens, this is gonna happen in Cleveland too.

1142
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: It's it can be so bad out of nowhere, but

1143
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: it also could change for the better. So five days out,

1144
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: it's just too hard to say. But if this was,

1145
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, the conditions aren't too bad. It's hard for

1146
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: me to see Pittsburgh keeping up with Buffalo. I mean,

1147
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: this is a Pittsburgh team. Look, they beat the Seahawks,

1148
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: who were faded into oblivity at the end of the year.

1149
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: They beat all the Ravens backups. They beat you know,

1150
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals with Jake Browning. But before then they lost

1151
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: to the Colts by seventeen. They lost to the Pats

1152
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: at home. They lost the Cardinals at home. So I

1153
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: think that where people are falling a little bit too

1154
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: much in love with Mason Rudolph and I think his

1155
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: inexperience is going to show probably make a couple of mistakes.

1156
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: And I think that the Bills are just peaking at

1157
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: the right time. But the conditions of the wild card

1158
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: so as of right now, nothing for me there.

1159
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to die on this hill. This season's on now, Listen.

1160
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not acting like they would have made

1161
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: some running the playoffs, but TJ. Watt is hurt because

1162
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: they had to win that game and they stuck with

1163
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: Trubisky so long in that situation. You remember on that

1164
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: Saturday game when who you've been saying this and I

1165
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: started noticing Indie's not good. I mean, as far as

1166
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: they came, it's more of a testament to me to

1167
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: their head coach, I don't view them as a good team.

1168
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: That's why we'll talk about Houston. I'm a little leery

1169
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: on them. But if he like he remember when he

1170
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: brought in Mason Rudolph at the end of the Indie game,

1171
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: like two minutes left. It's like, Mike, have you been

1172
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: fucking watching what's going on out there? How did you

1173
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: not go to the bullpen at halftime? So this notion

1174
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: all that shit have gone. It was clear to everyone's day,

1175
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: like listen, your season's going down the drain. You might

1176
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: as well. He was so loyal to that guy, and

1177
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: it put him in a situation where they're playing all

1178
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: these backups and their star. I mean, listen, if you

1179
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: tell me TJ. Watt is playing in a game that,

1180
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: like you said, gets Wendy, who knows shit gets weird.

1181
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: Like we've seen. We literally saw t J. Watt and

1182
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Heismith win them a game just those two guys. So

1183
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, yeah, he picks off a screen at

1184
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: the takes it thirty yards. I mean, this season to

1185
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: me is on Tomlin. And I'm not some like Tomlin hater.

1186
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a winning coach, but like this, like they

1187
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in that position last week, but the

1188
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: Ravens weren't, you know, and it was still listening And

1189
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't even care if it was a close game,

1190
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: I get it it was. I don't judge you on

1191
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: backups like whatever, but you had to play a guy

1192
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: that you that is like your quarterback and it fucked you.

1193
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, so to me, like I'm with you.

1194
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: You go back to go back to the Cardinals and Pats,

1195
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: two win teams at home back to back weeks. You

1196
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: can't lose.

1197
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: Go. The Trubisky was I think the worst quarterback I

1198
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: saw this season. Yep, agreed, who makes like over a

1199
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: million dollars, not like just some practice squad guy that

1200
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: gets elevated to play. I'm talking about a guy going

1201
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: into the season on the too deep.

1202
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

1203
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: He was hideous and clearly they got some skill guys,

1204
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Like if you can just function, you can be decent

1205
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: let's start with the first game, Cleveland Houston. This is

1206
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: historically kind of the throwaway game. Cleveland's been an incredible story.

1207
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: They just have really good players. They got a lot

1208
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: of momentum. They have a quarterback who's you know. I

1209
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: get he throws it up for grabs, but like you said,

1210
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: he's been in a million playoff games. It's been a while.

1211
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: But to me, Houston, to me, they are a team

1212
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: on the come. They have some major injuries. Those guys

1213
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: would be back next season. They have a ton of

1214
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: cabs space. If they were a stock, I would bet

1215
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: on them. I do feel like I think this is

1216
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I think this is gonna be tough.

1217
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean that defense Jim Schwartz is to me an

1218
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: elite coordinator. Look at what Jim Schwartz did to Kyle

1219
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: earlier this season. He's comfortable against. I know, the offense

1220
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: a little different because CJ can to me, is more.

1221
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: They can do more stuff with him in the passing

1222
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: game than Kyle likes to do. But still like I

1223
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: like Cleveland in this game.

1224
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: I would lean that way. I actually like I prefer

1225
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: the over. Historically, Walker Weekend a lot of unders. Those

1226
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: are mostly outdoor games. Past twenty years, wild card unders

1227
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: fifty one and thirty five, but indoors overs have gone

1228
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: eleven and eight, so a lot of times you get

1229
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: weather conditions. These games tend to be lower scoring, but

1230
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily the case. Indoors on a fast track.

1231
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: So I like these over for a couple of reasons.

1232
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: The Cleveland offense since Blaco's taken over, they're averaging over

1233
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: twenty eight points per game. They going from a bottom

1234
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: five pass explosive offense to a top five and they

1235
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: are just they're using tempo and they're so Fantasy is

1236
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: just letting Flaco drop back and throw it all over

1237
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: the field, chuck it. I mean, this is a pass first, pass, heavy,

1238
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: pass all the time offense, and that's how you want

1239
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: to attack Houston. Houston's run day pretty good. Their past

1240
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: dight is not and now you have Jimmy Ward one

1241
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: of their other guys, Thomas on IR this and this

1242
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: Houston defense, which I mean, the Houston pass defense was

1243
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: not good. They've finished twentieth and EPA per play against

1244
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: the pass, like top five against the run. It's the

1245
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: Fantasy is a smart coach. I think Cletans could come

1246
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: mount they're going to start chucking yet. And here's a

1247
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: crazy stat this Houston defense. They faced one, if you

1248
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: just look at ePaper play one top ten offense all season,

1249
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: and that was Baltimore in Week one when they lost

1250
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: a twenty five to eight in the first game of

1251
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: the new system. They still got twenty five points. They

1252
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: haven't faced the top ten offense since Week one. They've

1253
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: only faced two others in the top thirteen. Tampa, it

1254
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: was not. You look at their offense and they're not like, oh,

1255
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: this is some world renowned offense Tampa.

1256
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: Put up that was that was that crazy. That was

1257
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: that crazy shootout.

1258
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: And then Cincy, who put up thirty on them. So

1259
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: they've been roasted by any offense with a pulse. Here

1260
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: are the other offenses that they faced, the Titans twice,

1261
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: the Jags twice, the Colts twice, the Steelers, Falcons, Jets, Broncos, Cardinals, Panthers, Saints,

1262
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: and Browns who were bottom five overall. But they're not

1263
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: with Flacco and Flacco in this offense a month ago

1264
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: in the same stadium put up thirty six and for

1265
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: what it's worth, the Browns on the road this year

1266
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: eight to no to the over covering by fifteen points

1267
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: per game. Their defense is good, but there's also some injuries.

1268
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 2: They have injuries on the defensive line at safety, walker, linebacker,

1269
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,479
Speaker 2: so they're not fully healthy, and the defense just isn't

1270
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: as dominant as it is at home with that crowd,

1271
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: and they just seem to play at a different level

1272
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: at home. They're given up on the road this year.

1273
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: They're given up thirty points per game on the road.

1274
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Even against case Keenum, the Texas still got the twenty two,

1275
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: but almost everybody on the road against the Browns has

1276
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: gotten the twenty four or more so. And I think

1277
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: Houston they're gonna I think the Stroud's gonna chuck it downfield.

1278
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: He might make the mistake the same with Placo, so

1279
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: there could be some turnovers in this game. But I

1280
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a lot of explosive passing plays.

1281
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: You can get a few of them against the Browns

1282
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: and aggressive defense, and that's what you want with an

1283
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 2: over you want explosive passing plays. I think the Browns

1284
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: a gonna come out. They're gonna be able to take

1285
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: advantage of this Houston defense, which is not good especially

1286
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: in the secondary. They just haven't faced many competent passing attacks,

1287
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: and when they have, they've been destroyed fast track indoors.

1288
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm a little hesitant about Stroud just because, like it's

1289
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: his first playoff start, but like I said, he was

1290
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: in a playoff game basically last week. They're receivers overall,

1291
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: Noah Brown, Robert Woods. They should be a little bit

1292
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: healthier still, no Tank Dell, but I like the over there.

1293
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: But I don't mind your Browns bet backing.

1294
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: You can visit me. I'm with you. You're right the

1295
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Browns when you notice, you know, I didn't have the

1296
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: exact number, but when you watch them on the road

1297
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: that they are dramatically different than when we're at home.

1298
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: This is just a great you know sometimes, I mean,

1299
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: this game it's been like Raiders Bengals once Raiders Texans

1300
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: one time with like Matt McGloin. I mean, there have

1301
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: been some really really shitty Saturday afternoon on this weekend.

1302
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: This is a really good Saturday afternoon game. It'd be

1303
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: hard for the NFL to get better than this, actually,

1304
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: I think, don't you?

1305
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: I agree? Yeah, I think this is the eighth Texans

1306
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: playoff game and all eight have been on Saturday, which

1307
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: was fun.

1308
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: I feel this and maybe a C. J. Stroud I

1309
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: guess that Sean played in one against the Bills that

1310
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: was really good. Remember that play they did, like some

1311
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 1: crazy pitch play. I forget if it was the Bills

1312
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: of the Texans they got Taxings Chiefs. Maybe now Texans Bills.

1313
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Was definitely Saturday afternoon, like I think Josh's first playoff

1314
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: first time they made yes, yes, you're right, and it

1315
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: was a really really entertaining game. Sean and DeAndre Hopkins

1316
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: were going nuts, and yeah, that might be the best ever.

1317
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 1: This has a chance to be in that world. Okay,

1318
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got the stat I mean, listen, you

1319
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: live in warm weather. I live in warm weather. There's

1320
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: just no way to get ready for the cold, you know,

1321
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: Like when you said those numbers with the Bills about

1322
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: the wind and the cold, I mean, I can't. That

1323
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 1: makes me fucking quiver. So Miami going to Kansas City,

1324
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: which it's supposed to be frigid, you know, I mean,

1325
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: this is these guys won. This team is not even

1326
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: dependent like some of their previous teams, like some of

1327
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: the Rogers Packers team on scoring a lot of points

1328
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: to be successful, to win games. And two they're guys now,

1329
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: especially their core guys. I have just been living in

1330
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City for a long time. So the advantage there

1331
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: is it's unquantifiable to me. I mean just and then

1332
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: you factor in, well, what is Miami. Well they got

1333
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: a big arm quarterback. Nope, they got a guy with

1334
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: a lollipop. So I mean four and a half. That

1335
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: number feels a little I dare you to take it,

1336
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: but I just there's not a team I like less

1337
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,520
Speaker 1: this weekend than the Miami Dolphins, to be honestly.

1338
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami cold weather games under forty degrees is twenty seventeen,

1339
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: zero to nine straight up, two and seven against the spread.

1340
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: Well, historically post Marino it's awful. Now they have some

1341
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: shitty quarterbacks.

1342
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: But and it's supposed to be like one degree. I

1343
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: think it was one the last I checked.

1344
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: What would have to what would I have to pay

1345
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 1: you to attend that game? Uh? No, no big jacket,

1346
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: just like I'll give you a long sleeve, but it's

1347
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: like a try fit or T shirt level long sleeve.

1348
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: Could you survive?

1349
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: No, there's no amount of money. I'm not I'm not

1350
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: going I'm.

1351
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: Past you not a bit. Are you not a guy

1352
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: in the cold either?

1353
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: No?

1354
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm not.

1355
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a cool guy. So right NOWT zero zero

1356
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: is the projection. I think, let's it at night. Yeah,

1357
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna be it's like zero degrees and who knows

1358
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: what it feels like. It's gonna be some win too.

1359
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: The problem with this game is not only is the

1360
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: weather and advantage for Kansas City, it's the fact that

1361
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: they rested last week and Miami went out and had

1362
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: to fight their ass off and still lost the division

1363
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: and they got They have so many more inj I mean,

1364
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: this team is beat up. They are signing Bruce Irvin,

1365
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: h they were signing, you know, justin Houston, guys off

1366
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: the street that come play edge. They have no one

1367
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: left their They've lost two linebackers, their safety's both got hurt.

1368
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: I mean everyone got Xabian Howard's still out, Ramsey got

1369
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: banged up. I mean, if it is a mess Waddle,

1370
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play. We'll see if he's one

1371
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Tyreek got banged up again. He's not one

1372
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: hundred percent. He could limp off the field at any

1373
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: time to his little banged up, like they're gonna have

1374
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: most at back, So I assume that they're gonna you

1375
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: can run on the Chiefs. So I assume that they're

1376
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: gonna try to shorten the game and then just run

1377
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 2: with Mostert and uh a chain and try to control

1378
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: the clock and that's their path to success, and then

1379
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 2: just try to hit a couple of shots to Tyreek.

1380
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: I think that has to be the formulum. Their defense

1381
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: right now is a shell of itself. Now Vick Vandrew

1382
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: doesn't really blitz much. Sits back to, hey, we don't

1383
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: want to give up a big play historically, but last

1384
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: week they were down so many guys against Allen, he

1385
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: started just bring in the house like they were like,

1386
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: we have no other choice, We have no one that

1387
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: can generate pressure. You're gonna remember they already lost Chubb

1388
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: and Phillips, their two main edge rushers before last week,

1389
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: and they lost a couple other addressers, a couple of linebackers.

1390
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: So but you never want to blitz Mahomes. So I'm

1391
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: curious to see how he plays. This is he gonna say,

1392
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: because this Chiefs offense has not been good. It's not

1393
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 2: a team that I have rush.

1394
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: They can't they can't catch the football.

1395
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the receiver's been bad that their tackles have been

1396
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: really bad. So I'm curious to see how does Fangio.

1397
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: You know, some of these old like they're literally signing

1398
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: guys off the street that they to come in and

1399
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: play this week, some guys that were played with Fangio before,

1400
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: so at least they know the system. But how are

1401
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: they gonna generate pressure. Mahomes is the last quarterback in

1402
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: the world you want to blitz, but they might not

1403
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: have any other choice, and they might just try to

1404
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: try to attack these tackles and then just say, look,

1405
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: your receiver stink and you're not gonna you know this

1406
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: isn't We're gonna take Ramsey, put them on Kelsey, and

1407
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: then we'll take our chances with you trying to hit

1408
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: the receivers. I don't know that, or are they going

1409
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: to just sit back and say you're off in stinks

1410
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: and you're not going to move it, but they should

1411
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: be able to run it. I don't know. I kind

1412
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: of think they're gonna blitz a little bit more. I

1413
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: like some p Checko props. He's gonna he's gonna play

1414
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna play most of the game,

1415
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna be I like to check

1416
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: ot receiving props. He's averaged like a five and a

1417
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: half catches when their other back's been out of the lineup,

1418
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: and he is out of gain this week.

1419
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.

1420
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: Couldn't play Miami here. This line opened Kansas City minus

1421
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: one and a half, So obviously Kansas City's taking a

1422
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: ton of money. It's my homes at home and the.

1423
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: Cold you said you said it opened?

1424
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: What Kansas City minus one and a half didn't last

1425
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: long Jesus minutes and then it was gone right to

1426
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: three and then it's kept going half.

1427
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: I got, so yeah I would.

1428
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: I could only bet Kansas City here, but their offense

1429
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: has been so bad and Miami might have success running it.

1430
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: So this is probably a pass for me.

1431
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: When I see if I assume the Chiefs win this game,

1432
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: because I I'm with everyone that hammered them. They're gonna

1433
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: have a chance next week, assuming the Bills take care

1434
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: of business in a weird way to go into Buffalo

1435
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: and be free like everyone's it's all the pressures on Buffalo, right.

1436
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: People think this is like the Super flawed Kansas City team.

1437
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: If I was Buffalo, I'd rather be faces the Chiefs team.

1438
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we're all equals. Everyone, we all got

1439
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: the same one the line. But the Chiefs are gonna

1440
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: get to go into Buffalo like, oh, we're just kind

1441
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: of playing with house money. People think, you know, our

1442
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: receivers suck and this is our down year. I can

1443
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: see Buffalo getting a little tense. I mean, they were

1444
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: doing that against Miami. It's like, why do you guys?

1445
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: You guys feel tight and then they loosened up as

1446
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: Josh starts running, and then they feel kind of freer

1447
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: and they start kicking ass. But that that punt return,

1448
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: it felt like saved the bill season. Now they had

1449
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, right because the Titans had taken care

1450
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: of business with the Jacks, so they didn't need to

1451
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 1: win to get in.

1452
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they would have had to go to Miami again.

1453
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they looked off like they would have to go

1454
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: to They would have.

1455
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: To beat Miami again and then go to Baltimore no

1456
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: matter what if they won that game in the division round. Instead,

1457
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: you host the Steelers and then you host another home game.

1458
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: I agree.

1459
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a role reversal of the previous

1460
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: that thriller between the Bills and the Chiefs when the

1461
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: Bills went in there and I mean really should have

1462
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: beat them before.

1463
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Packers, who I love the Packers. Last week I

1464
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't talk to you, but I thought the Bears were

1465
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: one of the biggest frauds. I mean they were beating

1466
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 1: up on like the Arizona Cardinals and the Atlanta Falcons,

1467
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, are you guys watching Justin Fields? He

1468
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: cannot throw from within the pocket? Justin Fields or Jordan

1469
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Love is everything. Everyone on Twitter acts like Justin Fields

1470
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: is and if like they were gonna be, I don't

1471
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: care how shitty their defenses. Fields ain't lighting him up

1472
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: and he didn't and they won the game. Uh listen,

1473
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the Packers as much this week. Seven

1474
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: and a half is a pretty big number, but that

1475
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: defense against potent offense. I mean I thought the Cowboys

1476
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: were like going through the motions and they had thirty

1477
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: with their eyes closed against Washington. Who I get one, two, three,

1478
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: can't coon, but that numbers a little high for me.

1479
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: But I do think this is a rough matchup for

1480
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: green Bay, who is playing with House Money incredible season.

1481
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: Somehow the Bears have never had a quarterback. They just

1482
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: might have gone to Hall of Famers to another guy

1483
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: that looks like he's got to be pretty good. I mean,

1484
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: it'd be this guy truly is a good player. It's

1485
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: like the greatest stretch in sports history, isn't it.

1486
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, to hit on three quarterbacks in a row like

1487
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: that would be just stunning. Uh yeah, I like the

1488
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: Packers there. I don't think that this should be. I mean,

1489
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: if this line was six and a half, I wouldn't.

1490
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: That's a lot of points. I'm with you. That's a

1491
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: lot of point.

1492
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: Seven and a half. I have to take it. Cowboys

1493
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: are gonna get their points. But one of the reasons

1494
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: they're so good as a favorite generally is that once

1495
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: they get a lead, then their past rush. We've talked

1496
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: about this. Their pass rush gets going. They're opportunistic, but

1497
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: the Packers' offensive line can hold up. Here. Aaron Jones

1498
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: is fully healthy. Now you can run Dallas a little

1499
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 2: bit and they can protect Love and Love is just

1500
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: Love finished top five EPA among all quarterbacks after he

1501
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: ended the season. Since Week eleven, he's arguably been the

1502
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 2: best quarterback the NFL eighteen touchdowns, one interception, seventy percent

1503
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: completion percentage, seven point eight yards per attempt, zero point

1504
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: two to sixty pa per pass play over. You know

1505
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: since that time, only party has a higher EPA since then.

1506
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know you'd like Christian Watson. I mean,

1507
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: has been injured right in the most explosive.

1508
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: They've had a lot of injurantive receiver. It doesn't even

1509
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: matter who's come in. Jones also hasn't been fully healthy

1510
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: until the past couple of weeks, but now he's fresh,

1511
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: ready to go. Look, you're gonna hear a lot about

1512
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: the Cowboys at home this year. They're undefeated. But look

1513
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: here's who they beat. The Patriots, the Jets, the Giants,

1514
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: the Commanders, Eagles, the free Falling Eagles. They beat the Rams,

1515
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Lions had chances to beat them. The

1516
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: line should have. Yeah, with their the refs get the

1517
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: call right, the line should have beat them. The Seahawks

1518
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: had the ball late with the chance to win. So

1519
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: it's not like they've you know, they've made a lot

1520
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: of bad teams just inflated to score. I think the

1521
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 2: Packers are just love and that offense are firing on

1522
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 2: all cylinders and they're playing too well to get And look,

1523
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: the Cowboys got fourteen late that Green Bank can go

1524
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: down and get a touchdown and cover. But I think

1525
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 2: this will be a back and board game. I think

1526
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: Dallas pulls it out, but I have to take the

1527
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 2: hook over seven. I also wouldn't be shocked. And for

1528
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: where it's where the Packers were four and five on

1529
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: the road, but all five losses were by four points

1530
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: are left, Yes, so they have not They've been in

1531
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: every game on the road all season. They even you know,

1532
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: they blew out Detroit, they blew out Minnesota, blew at

1533
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: Chicago on the road, three road division blowout wins. But

1534
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't be shocked if Mike McCarthy makes some

1535
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: boneheaded in game decision that cost the Cowboys points which

1536
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: will only help the plus seven and a half here.

1537
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: So and look, the Packers defense is bad, but Jied

1538
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 2: Alexander's at least back. Their run defense is worse than

1539
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 2: their past dy and but the Cowboys aren't really running

1540
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 2: it well. And if the Cowboys do decide to run it,

1541
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: Green Bay will say great that we're happy with that.

1542
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: So It's not the worst matchup for green Bay's defense.

1543
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: Now Dalla's gonna score, they're at home. Their offense is elite.

1544
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: I think.

1545
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: Ce Lembs unbelievable, but I think green Bay can keep

1546
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: this within a score.

1547
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: Okay, the night game, I you know, Sunday Sunday Morning Slate,

1548
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: we gave teams pretty shitty. So I had the four

1549
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: box on one TV, and every time I looked over

1550
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: at the Lions in Minnesota because the game meant nothing,

1551
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: because I just assumed Dallas was gonna win the afternoon,

1552
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: so the Lions were just stuck at three. There was

1553
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: a dude limping off the field or like kind of

1554
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: holding his side. Obviously, Laporta got seriously injured, but I

1555
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: score to God like every other snap, a dude was

1556
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: kind of it was. It was crazy, and I don't

1557
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: know where you stand. Like I thought. I'm a I'm

1558
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: a Dan Campbell supporter for people call him meat head.

1559
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: I think he's clearly pretty solid, especially what he's done

1560
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: with Detroit, but that that was a little reckless for

1561
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: my liking, you know, I mean, the mcveigh's and the

1562
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: Hardbaws never would have done that. It's too and I

1563
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: understand trying to get a guy a rookie record. McVeigh

1564
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: did it with Pooka Nakua and then I don't know

1565
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: if you saw the clip go viral, but he said,

1566
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Get him out of there, right, So the

1567
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: moment you get something, you get the guy off the field.

1568
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 1: I understand young players, but holy shit, so that laporta

1569
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: injury to me, I understand gambling, Like quarterbacks are truly

1570
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: the only guy I think that really matters for Detroit.

1571
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been he's been a star, So I

1572
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: that rattled me. I would have picked if you told

1573
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: me that the Lions were fully healthy. I'm like, I

1574
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 1: think everyone's gonna pick the Rams. I like the Lions.

1575
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I mean, I think they're gonna

1576
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: try to play it. We're all fine. I think a

1577
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of their guys are banged up after that game.

1578
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota's fucking crushing dudes. So I tend to kind of

1579
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: like the Rams money line in the spot. Yeah it's

1580
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: it's I completely get it, like plus one fifty.

1581
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree with what Campbell did because number one,

1582
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: like you would argue, okay, you couldn't you had a

1583
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 2: three percent chance to get in the two seed not

1584
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: worth it, like you needed Dallas to lose the Washington

1585
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: and Philly to lose to the Giants, that Dallas was

1586
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: supposed to gonna lose the Washington, and you also to

1587
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 2: win the game like Minnesota was still in it. So

1588
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: that wasn't even a guarantee. And the mein like the

1589
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: difference between the three and a two, like the most

1590
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: likely the case was gonna be. Okay, if you won

1591
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Dallas one, then Dallas is the two. Even if you lost,

1592
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: then you're the three. Dallas still the two, like you

1593
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: I get, maybe you get to the two because you

1594
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: want to keep golf from going outdoors where you just

1595
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 2: have no chance. But either way, you're either going to

1596
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: Dallas if you win, or you're at home.

1597
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Dallas was never losing into the football team coming out.

1598
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I completely disagreed there, and Khalif Raymond too.

1599
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like Detroit as of now. I

1600
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: can I see the case for the Rams. But Detroit

1601
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: does two things really well. They can defend the run,

1602
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: which is huge. The basis of the Rams offense is

1603
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: Karen Williams. That's when it's really taken off Now they're

1604
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: going to hit their explosive passing plays. But if you

1605
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: can get pressure on Stafford, he's different. Quarterback lines lead

1606
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: the league in pressure rate lead the league, and quarterback

1607
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: knockdown rate lead the league in hurry rate. They just

1608
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 2: got a Lee McNeil back, he's huge, C J. Gardner Johnson,

1609
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: So they got some reinforcements on this defense. Now their

1610
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: corners can't stay with Nikua and Cup, so Stafford's gonna

1611
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: hit his place, but I think they can pressure him.

1612
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: This crowd is gonna be raucous. I also think that

1613
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: the Lions, like I think both offenses have major advantages here.

1614
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: Like the Rams, they can block Donald and the Rams

1615
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: don't get pressure unless Donald makes a play. They don't

1616
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: get any pressure whatsoever. So God's gonna be comfortable, especially

1617
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: going up against this defensive scheme. So I think the

1618
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: Lions will move the ball. Campbell fourth down decisions will

1619
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: probably have beat Way heavily on this game. Is he's

1620
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: gonna go you know, he's gonna go for it a

1621
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: couple of time, so that that's gonna be a major uh.

1622
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: That adds a lot of variances into this game. The

1623
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: one thing that you know the first that this crowd

1624
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: is gonna be bananaou so just the sound, the noise

1625
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: that a couple of calls will probably go their way.

1626
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: Special teams in the playoffs are massive. The Rams special

1627
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 2: teams are impoverished. I mean they are so bad because

1628
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: they have no depth whatsoever on their team. Because of everything,

1629
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, they went after the Super Bowl got them.

1630
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 2: Credit to them for hitting on guys like Nikola Avila

1631
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: offensive line and a couple other guys. Credit to McVeigh

1632
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: for you know, he was about to retire, just take

1633
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: a take a break, and he's got them back into

1634
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But because because of their roster and like

1635
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: the lack of depth, their special teams are so bad

1636
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: that they don't have a kicker. They're punting. Their coverage

1637
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: units are horrendous. That on the road is asking for trouble.

1638
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: It's cost them a couple of games this year, almost

1639
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: costing the Giants game, costing the Ravens game. Don't forget

1640
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: about the special teams. I think the Lions are gonna

1641
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: win in front of the home crowd, but I could

1642
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: see the case of the Rams. It's you have Stafford

1643
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: mccoole and Cup against those corners. I think it's gonna

1644
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: be a really fun game. But I think I'm siding

1645
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 2: with the Lions.

1646
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I think whoever wins, it's an incredible moment for either

1647
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: coach the Rams win. I thought the ram I don't

1648
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: know where you stood. I mean, I thought they were

1649
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna draft in the top ten. I'm like, Staffer's falling

1650
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: apart now. They not only made the playoffs, but like

1651
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: a legit six seed playoff team, went on the road,

1652
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: won a game against a very talented team, and you

1653
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: could argue it's non Super Bowl year. You could this

1654
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: could be big. They's second best season. And Dan Campbell

1655
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: wins a fucking playoff game for the Detroit Lions for

1656
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: the first time in three and a half decades or whatever.

1657
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he's getting an enormous contract extension. He might

1658
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,839
Speaker 1: be getting that anyway, But like, you win a playoff

1659
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: game in Detroit, are you kidding me? I mean, that's

1660
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: that's that never happens. I don't even vividly remember them, Honestly,

1661
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember that game. I watched the Barry Sanders

1662
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: documentary and when they won the playoff game, like I was,

1663
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: I was pretty young, I'm like, I do not remember this.

1664
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm yeah, it's gonna be an amazing game. I

1665
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: can't wait to watch it. And I'll the Rams.

1666
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: I agree.

1667
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: I thought they're gonna be bottom eighteen, no chance to playoff.

1668
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was just going to be Stafford throwing it.

1669
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: It's a cup a million times the game. Their defense,

1670
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: can we have a special teams can be That defense

1671
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: went a little better than I thought. But they hit

1672
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: on guys, you know, they hit on some linemen. But

1673
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: Kien Williams and the fifth round, I think two years ago,

1674
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Nikua in the third round. One of the best rookie

1675
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: seasons of all time. I mean, that's how you can

1676
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: really boost your team. And one hitting on a couple

1677
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: of draft.

1678
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: Picks like that, Stafford Stafford played like he was twenty

1679
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: seven again down there.

1680
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: And Stafford healthy too. Yeah, and turning back the clock

1681
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: was obviously massive. So but I will say that they

1682
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 2: were you know, they were one in six if you

1683
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: remove the Niners game, resting their starters. They were one

1684
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: and six against playoff teams this year.

1685
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys kicked their ass. The Ravens beat them, but they

1686
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: that was probably they were.

1687
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: They were close in the Raids game. But when they

1688
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 2: stepped up in class this year a lot they didn't

1689
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: fare so well and weren't necessarily the same team on

1690
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the road, But I mean, arguably should have lost to

1691
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: the Giants. Won a bunch of very close games, a

1692
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: lot of their analytical rankings, like they beat the shit

1693
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: out of the Cardinals and Seahawks four times. You know

1694
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: the Saints, So is the team at Stalt They you know,

1695
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: lost a home to the Steelers. So I'm not as

1696
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: high on the Rams as some. But their offense is cooking.

1697
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: This could turn When did they play Cleveland? I don't

1698
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: even remember that game.

1699
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played Cleveland a month ago. They was it

1700
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: was like twenty to nineteen in the fourth. It was

1701
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: Flacco's first start.

1702
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: Was that in LA.

1703
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brown's had a ton of injuries, like Garrett got

1704
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: her war didn't play, so they were severely shorthanded. And

1705
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: then there was a couple there was like a couple

1706
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: of turnovers late that made to score the Clittal player.

1707
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: But that was their only playoff win.

1708
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Okay, this, honestly, this could have been if if Houston

1709
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: wasn't a franchise, you could have put this Saturday afternoon.

1710
01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Uh Philly head of Houston. Uh no, man, I I

1711
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: understand like kind of going into the game knowing just

1712
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: assuming Dallas is gonna win. But the level of gutlessness

1713
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: from the Eagles in that effort, I mean that that

1714
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: was pretty eye opening, especially given the way that their

1715
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: season was going. This feels like all time implosion. I listen,

1716
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: I watched a decent amount of Tampa against Carolina. They

1717
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: do not look good either because Baker's injured. They're just

1718
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: they're just not playing that well. So it's hard to

1719
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: just think Tampa is gonna beat him. But Philly can

1720
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: lose anybody the way they're playing. I mean, you could

1721
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: not feel comfortable. I don't give a shit. If you're

1722
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lurie placing a bet right now in the Eagles,

1723
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I wouldn't. I'm not gonna touch

1724
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: this game, but I under I wouldn't touch Philly with

1725
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: a ten foot poll.

1726
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tempa or nothing for me, especially at a

1727
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: field goal. This this Eagles team is, I mean, they

1728
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: were very fortunate to be tenant.

1729
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: You think Si if you're a phellly guy. Do you

1730
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: think Syrian if he loses this game, because there's no

1731
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: way they could lose this game and not be ugly fashion.

1732
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Whether it's a walk off field goal, whether it's getting

1733
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: your ask, regardless, do you lose this game?

1734
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 2: I think I do think. Look at what the Eagles

1735
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: franchise has done. They've gotten rid of Super Bowl winning

1736
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: quarterback coaches like Peterson, Andy Reid. They're not a you

1737
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: know and Steelers, Yeah, they will move on quick and yeah,

1738
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: it's been a disaster with the I mean, like either

1739
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: side of the ball, like the defense. They they're changing

1740
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators. They're naming Matt Patricia midweight. You know, since

1741
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: they named Matt Patricia the defensive coordinator, they've gotten worse

1742
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: their thirty first EPA per play on defense since Patricia

1743
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: took over. I mean, it's it's been a disaster. I

1744
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 2: mean everyone is out of position. They've also had injuries.

1745
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: The offense is also a mess too. They can't figure

1746
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 2: out teams splitzing against them. A J that the like

1747
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: just divide to everything in the locker room.

1748
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Now you have a J.

1749
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Brown is hurt. We'll see what his status is now

1750
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: healthy he is. DeVante Smith's banged up hurts got banged up.

1751
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: You know, Swift hasn't had one hundred yard rushing game

1752
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: since the Bucks game, and they beat them earlier this season.

1753
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 2: It's a mess, both sides of both sides of it,

1754
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: I mean, And that's the longest I've read today, A

1755
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: funny stad is the longest stretch of a Eagles running

1756
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: starting running back not having one hundred yard game since

1757
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Keith Buyers in the early nineties who went like one

1758
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one games without one hundred yard game.

1759
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Jesus, But yeah, they're mess on.

1760
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Both sides of the ball. Now. The Bucks aren't great,

1761
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: Baker's hobble too, and they just want a shitty division.

1762
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I will say in fantasy Eagles, like, all right, now

1763
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: they're in, is it a chance for them to like reset?

1764
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Everyone's written them off? They have the playoff pedigree. Can

1765
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: they rally? He the Cowboys in the same situation last year.

1766
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 2: They laid they were in the same situation the Eagles

1767
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 2: going in the Week eighteen, they had to win and

1768
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: then have the Eagles lose. But they knew the Eagles

1769
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: are probably gonna win, and they went up to Washington

1770
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: lost twenty six to six. Dak was sixteen to thirty

1771
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: seven through a bunch of pick sixes. Then they recovered

1772
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: and won in Tampa, I think on the Monday night game.

1773
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: So it's the same boy.

1774
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: He had the great he had the greatest game of

1775
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: his career, throw five touchdowns.

1776
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, he looked perfect. So but I just don't

1777
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: see that from this Eagles team right now. I could

1778
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: not bet them. I will say, I bet, I'm betting

1779
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: some caid Aughton, the Bucks tight end. He's not great,

1780
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: but he's their only tight end. He will be on

1781
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 2: the field most of the game. And the Bucks can't

1782
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: run the ball. They won't be able to run the

1783
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: ball in Philly, and so they're gonna be in a

1784
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: lot of passing situations, passing downs, and the Eagles can

1785
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 2: still get pressure with their so Baker's gonna get rid

1786
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: of the ball quick and Baker's hobble, so think he's

1787
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: gonna look to Aton and the Eagles cannot cover tight

1788
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 2: ends to save their life. On this they're the worst

1789
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 2: worst defense in the NFL defending tight ends. Now, they've

1790
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: had linebacker injuries. Red Blanket Ship has fallen off a

1791
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: cliff on this season. They got up seventy six percent

1792
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 2: completion rate. Tight ends have averaged five catches for fifty yards,

1793
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 2: and that includes the game against the Dolphins, who don't

1794
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: use their tight end and have no yards. And since

1795
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: Week eight it's been even worse, posing tight ends six

1796
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: catches on average for fifty eight yards. They've given up

1797
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: I think over the past let me see I have

1798
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:44,440
Speaker 2: it here. They've given up eleven twenty plus yard receptions

1799
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 2: over the past seven weeks to tight ends alone. So

1800
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: I played Aten well, I think's going to get some looks,

1801
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: and he's had twelve catches of over thirteen yards this

1802
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: year in seventeen games, so I played over twelve and

1803
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: a half. Longest CA catch I split up was one

1804
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: one one of my whatever I bet on a normal game,

1805
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 2: I split it up into three. Longest over catch twelve

1806
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: and a half over two and a half catches. The

1807
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: one I like the most is over twenty and a

1808
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 2: half for seeding yards. I think you might be able

1809
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 2: to get that in one reception. But I think Baker's

1810
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 2: gonna look to him a bunch. They're gonna throw it

1811
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 2: a bunch in the middle of the field. Eagles can't

1812
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: defend it. They're gonna have to worry about Godwin and Evans.

1813
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: So I think Oton is gonna have some opportunities here

1814
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: and the Eagles just can't cover tight ends.

1815
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? If we get some upsets? Right?

1816
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: If if the Rams beat Detroit and Philly were to

1817
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: implode and lose, you could argue the Cowboys get the

1818
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: easier second round matchup than the forty nine ers because

1819
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: they would get the Bucks and the Niners would have

1820
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: to play the Rams. Who would Yep, you have a

1821
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: ton of momentum, so that yeah, to keep an eye on. Yeah,

1822
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: it's not because you want the Bucks to me like

1823
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: the Niners. Cowboys would would would to me pick the

1824
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: Bucks all these other teams right, probably including the Eagles,

1825
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: just because if those guys get healthy, they they can

1826
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: give you problems.

1827
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, the NFL. I shouldn't say never,

1828
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be upsets this week. It's just the

1829
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 2: way that it works. If I could tell you which

1830
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: one is, it'll be, I'd be on an island somewhere

1831
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: not recording this with you, even though I enjoyed doing this.

1832
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, who knows. I wouldn't be floored

1833
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: if the Hackers, Rams, and Bucks all one. And you know,

1834
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 2: I would be a little bit more shocked if the

1835
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Steelers and Dolphins both won. But you know, if the

1836
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: pat you told me that the Cowboys choked, McCarthy choked

1837
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 2: the game away and Love went off, I wouldn't be

1838
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 2: completely shocked. And the Rams beat the Lines so it

1839
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: could easily happen, and the Bucks beating the Eagles, Yeah,

1840
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't be shocked. Of all three underdogs in

1841
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: the NFC one. So yeah, it's it's gonna be fun,

1842
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be chaotic, enjoy the games. We got three

1843
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: days of them. I prefer to two triple headers Saturday Sunday.

1844
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: But you can't complain event next week.

1845
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree. And I think would you say,

1846
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: Sirianni and McCarthy would be the two guys that if

1847
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: they were to lose, you never know Monday, if if

1848
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: those guys are still.

1849
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Employed, McCarthy with this team, with these expectations, Yeah, if

1850
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: he goes down at home.

1851
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: Some of these to the Packers, some of these guys available.

1852
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 2: And if he especially if he yeah, yeah, he's think

1853
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: he's got to win this. This must win for him,

1854
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: must win game. You can you can even maybe lose

1855
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: the the lines next week, but you can't go out

1856
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: in the first round at home. Jones, will, I think.

1857
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: Make a move and stuck you. I don't. I don't

1858
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: think he can lose a home the playoff game. I

1859
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: don't think he can lose the home games.

1860
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 2: But especially not the first one.

1861
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: You can't. This would be he's one hundred percent fired.

1862
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: I think there would be problems if he lost in

1863
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: the second round to Detroit, to Philly, to you know,

1864
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: I I think it'd be problems. He lose the Niners,

1865
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna be what seven point underdog in that game. Yep,

1866
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: that's losable. I don't think you can't lose it home

1867
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: because if you're losing home, you know, the whole point

1868
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 1: is to get these home playoff games, right, he did

1869
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago. Well, now two years later,

1870
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: he's in charge, he's calling the plays. This team's better

1871
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: in theory, right, So I think he's got to win

1872
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: the home games. That's my thing. Like if I could

1873
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 1: see Jerry, who's kind of been a little weird, you know,

1874
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 1: talking about him, He's like he's under contract next year.

1875
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a five years, right, But I think you're

1876
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 2: definitely right. If he lose this weekend and everyone in

1877
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 2: the AFC is.

1878
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: Saved, Todd Bowles would be a fifty fifty. I'm not

1879
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: saying he should, but I'm just saying ownership's a little

1880
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: weird there.

1881
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 2: You know, they're bringing Baker back one more year. Your

1882
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Todd's price safe, they'll probably they'll probably keep him one

1883
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 2: more year. But yeah, I think Sirianni, the two two

1884
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: NFC coaches, if they lose this weekend, took your videos.

1885
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Stucky, let's uh, let's have a weekend.

1886
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, enjoy the games and see you next week.

1887
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 1: See you, buddy. The volume