WEBVTT - You, Me & The Winters 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:05.720 This is he said, ayadjo with Eric Winter and Rodlin fantab. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.360 Yeah, menidos, he said, a ja vejo. I am so 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:17.040 happy about this episode, Eric Winter. We have good friends 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.480 Selena Rinhill and her amazing talented husband, Dan Levi Dagerman. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.560 You know, they are the owners of Two Hands Productions, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.400 and they have a film it's out right now. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.160 And let me tell you something. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.120 He has won a bunch of awards and has one 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.479 hundred percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That is unbelievable. I 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.720 am such a big fan of Selena. Guys, she is 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:44.760 a Mexican. She moved here to the States married to 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.600 a green girl. Their company ours is two for the 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.600 Road is two Hands. We have a lot of similarities. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.680 She is a trailblazer. This girl is next level, incredibly smart, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.600 and they are a couple. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.560 They director, yeah, they're both. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.360 They direct, they produce, they write, they edit, they do 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.760 it all. And the movies are so well done and 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.440 so fantastic. And the one that is out now, we're 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.880 going to be talking about it. You want to talk you. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.920 Me and her? 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.640 You me. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:12.880 I can't wait to discuss it. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.959 They have an amazing story about how this film came about, 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.040 let's let's just bring them and let's start talking with them. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:22.520 Oh it's like deja vu? Oh my god, Shall we 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.760 tell people what happened? 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.759 I almost feel like we should share this story. It's 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.040 just kind of a funny. Not funny, guys. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.280 I know, we had Selena and then come over to 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.800 here to the podcast from We were so excited we 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.640 were gonna have somebody in person. It was the studio 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.600 in studio, we talked for like an hour. We had 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.280 such a laugh, We covered everything. It was one of 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.800 my favorite favorite episodes ever. Then I get a text 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.559 from our producers saying there. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:50.080 Is a problem. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:51.920 There's a and I'm going I don't care, then fix 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.760 it and they're like no, we're trying to do everything. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.320 And they're like, no, I don't think you understand it. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.240 We have done everything. It doesn't work. I'm going to 0:01:58.280 --> 0:01:59.440 I don't think you understand me. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.520 Her whole day was ruined. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.920 It was like it was like calling somebody about a 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.160 breakup and you're just hoping the breakup's gonna go like smooth. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.679 And I said, well, it's not gonna get any better. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.400 You just gotta let them know. So we have to 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.280 redo this can magically appear that we have audio and 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:15.079 then all this, Oh. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.359 My god, guys. I was so embarrassed. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.519 And I was texting with Selena back and forth because 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.480 they were flying going to a screening that I did 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.200 from my movie, and there their flight got delayed and 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.760 we're going back and forth and everything is wonderful, and 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.399 she's asking me when is the episode gonna come out? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.040 And I'm going I'm about to answer, I get the TEGs. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:36.320 My heart dropped. I was like, I'm gonna cry. So 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.440 I'm telling Eric, Eric, the episode doesn't work. There's a 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.720 problem with the sound, and he's I didn't tell her. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:43.840 I'm going, no, you tell her that. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:49.960 I'm telling the pros, well, listen, cham welcome back again. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.160 We we really. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.120 And I just want to say to you, it's so 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.200 funny because that dynamic that you just described is me 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.840 and Dan all the time. Fix it. I'm gonna person 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.520 and they're gonna sure it out and it doesn't work 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.320 like that. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:12.800 I was so fun with the producers, going this is embarrassing, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.120 and they're like, Russ, it happens all the time. I'm 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.280 sure they're gonna understand now, and I don't understand it. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.560 Was like the worst breakup phone call. I mean, it 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.880 wasn't a breakup, obviously. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.280 It was together and you were so grateful. So I 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.519 ended up saying, Selena, I have a problem. So I 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.080 told her, and you were so fantastic saying, you know what, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.480 it's okay, We'll do it again. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.560 I understand and we'll create. Thank you for that. Thank 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.440 you for that, because if you listening to uh It's 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:40.120 it's so great. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.480 We got our press box for you, me and her 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.360 in the mail, which was so incredible. I just posted 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.480 about the you know, the trailer for this movie that 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.520 we both love. We we saw at the premiere, which 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.000 was a festival premiere. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:53.600 Yeah. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.560 First off, I just want you guys to dive right. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.720 In to the origin story of this movie because to me, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.960 it is one of the most fascinating origin stories and 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.400 I think one of the main reasons everybody should see 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.560 this movie because it's based on real events. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.720 Yeah, thank you us about that. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.280 So well. Me and Dan went on a trip to Vegas. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.560 It was one of the first trips that we had 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.400 taken without our son after we had had a kid. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.960 And we were at this club in Las Vegas and 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.359 this woman who was very beautiful, started hitting on me, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.880 which is something that had never really happened to me 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.880 because I hadn't really been hit on by a woman. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.640 But what I realized was that I found myself attracted 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.520 to her, and I found myself very curious about her, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.680 and so she really wanted to kiss me. So I 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.960 asked Stan. I was like, I kind of want to 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.720 kiss her too, like is that okay? And he was like, uh, yeah, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.360 that's okay, and. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.599 I was like okay, well, don't hesitate or anything. So anyway, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.960 we shared this like very beautiful kiss and then this 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.320 woman was like, you know, well I would really love 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.159 to see you later. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.320 Can I get your phone number? And I was like, oh, okay, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.120 I don't know. So then I asked it. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.120 I was like, hey, give her my phone number, like 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.960 she kind of wants to see me later, and he 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.000 was like, yeah, give her your phone number. I was 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.960 like okay, So I gave her my phone number and 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.800 then we spent like the next forty eight hours in 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.720 Vegas just talking about like what was allowed, what wasn't, 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.960 what would make me feel safe, what would make him feel. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.640 Safe, Like what are safe? Woard would be like all 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.320 these different things and we were laughing so much. We 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.599 were feeling so connected over this, like and sure that 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:39.599 we could maybe go on. And this bitch never texted me. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.640 I was ghosted, which made me feel like I was 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.640 in high school again. It's been a minute since I'm 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.600 ghosted by someone because I've been married for ten years anyway, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.680 so I uh. But by the time we were leaving Vegas, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.240 we were actually already outlining the script because we were like, Wow, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.440 that up like a lot of stuff for us, and 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.720 we feel like it's so interesting and there's so many 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.479 dynamics to kind of explore in what this means and 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.520 what it brings up and and what it is to 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.800 be in a long term committed marriage and keep a 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.720 spark and all these other things. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.040 I want to back up for one second, Dan, what 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.680 was going through your mind? Was it like, let me 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.480 just make sure my wife is happy or that, and 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:24.839 what's in it for me? 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:25.919 Yeah? 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.560 Well that behind with you know, there's a male fantasy 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.479 and that maybe I share a little bit of, so 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.040 you know, there was there there. There are those two 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.320 things going on. And what's so interesting is when this 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.320 print was presented to us and Selena was interested, there's 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.640 almost like this relationship loophole if you're both on board. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.600 So there. So it's this fantasy, it's this fantasy dynamic 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.640 that was at play, and it was really interesting. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.440 Well, and the other thing I will say about Dan, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.880 I'm gonna give him credit here, is that if he 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.719 had been pushy at all, like even like one inch, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.120 if he had been like, dude, I would do it. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.400 I don't want to do it anymore, back off. But 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.640 because he was so good at like walking the line 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.240 of like, honey, whatever you need, well, whatever you feel, well, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.080 what would feel good to you? And I was like, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.840 oh fun, no good to me. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.840 You know, well played, well played. Flipped the table here. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.520 What if the woman had approached Dan and said, hey, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.080 I'm into you, babe. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.680 Are you cool with the three of us? 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.920 No? 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:36.400 Come on, come on? Oh my so I mean, let 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:37.080 me ask Eric. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.800 So Eric, we are at a club and this beautiful 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.040 woman comes over and says like, oh my god, you're 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.280 so pretty, and I'm going, oh my god, thank you. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.600 And she's like I really want to kiss you. And 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.400 I look at you and I go, Eric, what do 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:53.520 I do? 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.000 And we kiss? And then she said they didn't kiss. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.600 They didn't kiss yes, they did, Yes they did. Oh 0:07:58.640 --> 0:07:59.840 you did? You did? Kiss? 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.640 So they kissed, and then she asked for my number, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.400 and she goes, what, I want to see you later. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.640 I don't care. Your husband can come. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.080 And I go to you and I say, Eric, this 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.640 really hot chick wants to hang out with us, but 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.800 she likes me first. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:18.640 Here's what I know. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.800 In this fantasy world, I would have grabbed the popcorn 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.440 out the gate, because I don't see a world in 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.120 which this one would have engaged in the kiss. It 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.320 would have been so fun to watch how awkward she 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.320 would have been in that situation. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.400 I don't think. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.760 I imagine Selena, you probably played it with a bit. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.640 More swag and cool. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.280 I think, I don't know, you would have had panic 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.440 on your face of what's happening right now? 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:44.840 What is this woman doing? 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:45.640 Eric? 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.640 Oh my god, get me. I don't know what to do. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.720 It would have been a totally I just more shocked. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.720 I think if you were fully in I don't know, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.679 but you think you would have been fully I have 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:55.000 no idea. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.720 I've never been in that situation. I have no idea. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.920 I'm actually maybe she's gorgeous. You know what's going to happen. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.360 One of our listeners is going to have heard this 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:05.960 and they we're gonna be out somewhere and some chick's 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.199 gonna make a move on her, and. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.840 We're gonna find out. Maybe that will be your sequel, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.800 that you me her sequel. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.200 Anyway, So you guys, okay, so the girl, that's funny. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.679 So the girl ghosted you guys, you're flying. You're already 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.520 thinking about, oh my god, this is a movie. You 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.720 start writing right, and I want everybody to know Selena 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.520 stars she You guys co wrote it together. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.439 So yes, we we kind of do. I wrote it, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.000 but we outlined together. He goes through everything I write, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.160 he adds his own. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.360 We're very like a team exactly. And this couple guys, 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:41.360 so they shoot it. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.560 They go to Mexico, they shoot this beautiful movie and 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.520 then he directed it, and then you edit the movie 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:47.880 as well. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:48.280 Correct that. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.240 Well, we had editors. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.680 Yeah, I did a first crazy cut past like that 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.640 was done ten days after production. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.320 That got us in a huge fight. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.160 Mainly it's well, i'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.199 So he's we're cutting the movie because he's trying to 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.480 understand what the movie's like. Because we first we shot 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.840 in La and then we were shooting in Mexico. So 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.559 what he was trying to do was understand what did 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.560 we get in La, so that he knows what he wants. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.880 To like matching the look. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.240 Okay, but here's what he did. Here's what he did. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.440 Okay. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.880 That was so much more from the male perspective, and 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.000 so then it was like all these introspective moments with 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.280 like the male and like how hard it is for him, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.960 and I'm like, wait a minute, I love and this 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.960 movie is like it is a dual protagonist movie. I 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.560 will say that we wanted that, but it's like a 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.200 little more female skewed and. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.800 If you hold on a shot just like a little longer, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.240 that changes everything. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.959 Of course, yeah, we've seen this, and you guys did 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.559 a beautiful job of telling the story because it's it's 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:02.800 so funny and interesting and complex all at the same time. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:03.960 Because it's true like. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.040 If you were ever in that situation, we just imagined 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.160 it talking about it, but it would not be the 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.000 same way for everybody being in this situation, for sure. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.360 It's it's tricky and like with this cost already, if 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.880 it would have happened to Dan. It would have been 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.800 a completely different dynamic. It would have been a completely 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.040 different movie. Imagine happening to that. Okay, let's write about 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.160 that experience and about how a woman in a loving, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.840 respectful relationship will freak out and say, absolutely enough. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.560 Some girls hitting on me on the dance floor and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.400 even started to lean in. This one would have had 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.320 like a hand in the back of the head where 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.319 then probably to me, probably to hit me. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.720 I said, I didn't do anything on meose. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.080 Because she's very disrespectful. Listen, I'll never forget that. We're 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.200 at a and I'm listening. I'm not like the jealous type, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.240 but like I, well am I not? Well, I'm not anyway, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.120 So were I never forget where in the Atlanta and 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.680 we're with some friends healthy jealous, that's healthy jealous. So 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.320 we're at this restaurant, both are and I just don't 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:58.920 like disrespect. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:11:59.920 This is the problem with me. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.720 If a girl is looking at him because he's not myering, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.199 oh my god, he's hot, he's a good looking guy 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.960 or whatever. But I acknowledge and knowledges me right. Like 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.320 we went to Disney and this woman came over. He 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.640 was at a ride. I was waiting outside. She came over, 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.280 Can I take a picture with yourself? Of course, I'm 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:16.439 not gonna love you so much. And then at the 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.280 end she goes and I love your husband too, And 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.120 I go, oh my god, he's having he's with the kids, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.960 doing this right, But I didn't do it. Then like 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.920 an hour later, she wants a picture with him now 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.880 and she comes over to me and I said, oh 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.200 my god, do you mind I you know what I mean. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.440 That's a classy lady. That was That's classic. So I 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.679 was like, oh, of course I'll take the picture myself. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.320 What I don't like is the disrespect that they just 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.400 act like, you know, you're not even there, and they're 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.280 being flirt flirty and trying it on and completely dismissed 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:46.160 that they dismiss you. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:47.640 I can't start. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:53.800 I have a big issue with this year all the time. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.599 But it doesn't by the way, with the guy girls, 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:00.640 it doesn't don't be. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.559 Taggy, don't be tagging. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.880 Wait at a restaurant and this girl there's there's two 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.160 girls having dinner. It's a bunch of us, right, and 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.000 and I see the girl looking at him and just 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.640 but like just nasty, right, like she was just being disrespectful. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:15.760 He doesn't even know what's happening. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.040 And the girl keeps looking and I'm looking right at her, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.240 and she just like, I'm not there, and I'm going 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.120 I'm gonna see how long this is gonna play out? 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.920 So nobody I don't say anything, nobody knows anything. And 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.920 then there's for a moment, I look at her right 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:28.920 and I go. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.880 What did I say? I said, you got a problem? 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.120 You have problem? What are you looking at? 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.240 Everybody like the entire table because they did. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.400 They didn't know that this whole thing was played out right. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.000 All our friends are like, oh my god, what's going on? 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.440 I said, no, I wanted to say something, you know, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.880 And the girl got so uncomfortable and freaked out. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.000 Everybody in the restaurant got company. What we probably give you, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.079 guys a great sequel to this movie. And he's like, Ross, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:52.760 what are you doing? 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:53.480 What are you doing? 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.200 And I'm going, I don't like disrespects. If see what 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.640 If she finds you cute, it's fine, I would love it. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.600 If she goes, no, your husband is hot, I'll be like, yeah, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.599 he is, you know, I just don't like it. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.520 I don't like if a guy disrespects me. She's like, Babe, babe, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.040 don't ever react, don't ever react. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.120 It's okay. I mean, it's fine, I got this. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.800 Don't worry all right. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.520 Back to the movie. We're trying to work on your sequel. Yes, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:24.720 I love it, so the movie. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.520 What I want to also talk about is, because I 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.400 think we get asked this a lot. How do you 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.720 get in this business? How do you start something? How 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.440 do you become a writer, how do you become an actor? 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:34.760 How do you become a director? I mean, there's so 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.040 many things people don't understand what it takes to make 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.840 a movie, to put something together. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:42.520 Share a bit. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:46.160 I mean, you both come from an extensive background with 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.720 studying film and studying all that, and you guys met together, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:50.120 I know. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:51.480 In school. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.760 So even with all the talents and all the knowledge, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.320 it's still not easy. There's no there's no linear path 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.640 to success. Tell us a little bit the journey for 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:01.760 this movie. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.880 Yeah, I'm gonna let's sland that ticket because I have 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.040 to grab something important. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.640 So yeah, no, I would say, I mean, I think 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.560 so much of what it takes or what it's taken 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.480 for us is just really be thinking outside the box. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.800 Because I think it's almost like, strangely, not enough to 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.240 have a good story. It's not enough to be a 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.400 good actor, it's not enough to be a good writer. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.080 It's like that's how it's felt for me. That doesn't 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.680 mean that there isn't another journey for someone else, but 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.120 I think that so much of what it's taken for 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.600 us is to like really really think outside the box 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.120 and be like, how do we find our audience, how 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.120 do we do things that are innovative, how do we 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.000 become like a marketing machine besides making the movie, Like, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:49.760 we partnered with this new platform called attend, and our 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.840 movie is going to come to two hundred and fifty 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.040 theaters nationwide. Wow, which is enormous. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.280 Yeah, which is huge. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.880 People don't understand that's huge for an independent movie just 0:15:58.880 --> 0:15:59.280 coming out. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.480 Yeah, and our move to our movie was done for 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.360 a little under a million dollars. Okay, we usually would 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.200 be in theaters is between twenty and one hundred million. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.320 That's like what you're watching in theaters so and eighty 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.400 to ninety percent of everything you see in theaters is 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.000 owned by the studios. So for an independent film to 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.400 really get a shot at a theatrical is like slim 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.600 to none. You usually have to four wall, you go 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.960 to LA and New York, you last one week, you die. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:31.720 So this is like enormous, But what it took to 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.720 get here was also enormous because it was like, first 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:40.040 of all, Dan messaged the ex president of the National 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:46.240 Association of Theater Owners on LinkedIn okaysage message, whole message 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.520 and basically saw that he was building something. So it 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.040 took a Dan being informed that he was building something 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.720 b him sending that message, which I think a lot 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.760 of people would be like why would I send this message. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.880 I'm not going to get a response, you know. Then 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.800 it took a lot of follow up. So like first 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.359 we had a call with them. They were like, oh 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.000 my god, you guys are so fun and enthusiastic. Keep 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:13.280 us posting. And we were like, okay, I'll keep you out. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.439 And then we followed up again, and then we followed 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:22.600 up again, and then and then we finally they were like, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.199 you know, we really if we don't really like watching 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.720 movies and links, we need to see movies in theaters. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.239 So we rented out a theater. We were like, you 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.200 tell us the day and the time, we'll rent out 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.400 the theater, we will be there. So then we show 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.640 it to them in theaters and they go, wow, we're 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.760 really surprised. This is like a very thoughtful, good film. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:49.680 They're like, all right, well, stay in touch. Anyway, this 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.240 was literally like a six month process, and it all 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.680 came down to like this one lunch. We just kept 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.760 following up and following up. But we had other deals 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.880 on the table, but they weren't good deals. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:00.720 And we really. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.280 Believe that this movie deserved more, and we had put 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.760 so much of ourselves into it. It was so personal 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:07.960 and we cared so much about what we're trying to 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.480 say because it's not just about a threesome. It's about 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.160 the dynamics of a long term, committed relationship. It's about 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.440 how we stop seeing each other, how we start taking 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.320 each other for granted, about how sometimes we're not curious 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.639