1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: A record number of unaccompanied miners at the southern border 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: of the United States, Miners that we were told would 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: not be held in detention facilities anymore. Now overflowing those facilities. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: A crisis you might call it at the border, but 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the Biden administration would not call it a crisis. We'll 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: get into what's really going on. This is verdict with 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Michael Knowles, Senator. There is one issue above all that 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: is dominating right now. It happens to have a lot 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: to do with your state. There is no transparency whatsoever 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: on this. You were having liberal reporters telling people that 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: they had a greater access under Trump under Obama. Right 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: now they are being shut out. What is going on 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: at the border, Well, it's a crisis and it's not complicated. 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Call it that. We are saying the volume of the 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: league crossings rising dramatically last month. In the month of February, 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: we had over one hundred thousand illegal immigrants detained. We 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: are seeing, in particular crisis with children. We're seeing unaccompanied children, 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the numbers rising and rising and rising. We're seeing detention 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: facilities that are overcrowded, that are packed, that are at 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: at you know, hundred six seven hunder capacity, and it 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: keeps getting worse. And there are several things to understand 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: about it. Number one, why it's happening. This is the 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: direct result of a series of decisions the Biden administration 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: is made. So Joe Biden gets selected to get sworn 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: in on January twentieth. Within days he announces We're stopping 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: construction of the wall. So border wall done. Within days, 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: the Biden administration returns to catch and release. Now know 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: what is catching release? Catch and releases the policy. It 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: was the policy during the Obama administration where when an 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: illegal immigrant was caught, they'd be given a court date 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: sometime in the future and let go and said, hey, 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: come to court and lo and behold a whole bunch 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: of them never show up. This is not complicated to 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: figure out. One of the most significant things the Trump 36 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: administration was end catch and release. But the most important 37 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: thing that the Biden administration did is they ended the 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: remain in Mexico policy. Now, what is the remain in 39 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: Mexico policy? It was one of the biggest foreign policy 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: and immigration victories of the entire Trump administration and the 41 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Trump administration negotiated a deal with the government of Mexico. 42 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: So the vast majority of the immigrants crossing illegally into 43 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: this country are not Mexicans. They're Central Americans now who 44 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: are crossing through Mexico. So they're illegal immigrants in Mexico 45 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: crossing Mexico southern border illegally to get to the United States. 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: They're largely coming from Guatemala, El Salvador, a couple of 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: other countries, Nicaragua, and countries that have a lot of violence, 48 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: that have a lot of criminal activity, that have a 49 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of poverty, and so they're fleeing that in large numbers. 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: The remain in Mexico policy was an agreement with Mexico 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: where where if these folks come and want to apply 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: for asylum in the United States, they stay in Mexico 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: while the case is proceeding. And what the Biden administration 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: did is it took that really important international agreement and 55 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: it essentially ripped it up, said nope, we don't want 56 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to remain in Mexico. We want them here and we 57 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: want to let them go. And that consequence, we are 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: seeing massive numbers of illegal immigrants being released into the 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: United States, and in turn, Look, if you're sitting at 60 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: home in Guatemala and you're trying to decide whether to 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: come when you see people being released, when you see 62 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: people getting to stay, that's when you jump in a 63 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: caravan and had North. There was a liberal journalist, Martha 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Radditts on a liberal network ABC, interviewed an illegal alien. 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: His face was covered because he's obviously committing a crime, 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: and she said, would you have done this under Trump? 67 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: He said, no way, I'm doing this because Biden said 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: that basically I would not face any consequences. He said, 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the primary reason I'm flaeing is my country is no 70 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: good and it's violent and I want to get out 71 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: of there. But I would never have done this if 72 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: not for the Biden administration. Well, what we're saying is 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: really the mirror image of what we saw in late 74 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. In early twenty seventeen, when Trump was elected, 75 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: we saw illegal crossings plummet by two thirds, and it 76 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: plummeted by January and February of twenty seventeen. And at 77 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the time Trump had just been sworn in. To be honest, 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: he hadn't done anything yet. I mean I mean he 79 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: literally was just moving in. Yeah, and it is actually 80 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: an astonishing thing. Think back to the presidential debates, the 81 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: race of twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. If any Republican had said, 82 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: if you elect me, the sheer act of electing me 83 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: will drop illegal immigration by two thirds, you'd have been 84 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: laughed out of the room, like every reporter would have 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: laughed at you. Everyone said, that is absurd. So Trump, 86 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: but January February twenty seventeen, hadn't hired new border patrol agents, 87 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: he hadn't built a wall, he hadn't done anything. And 88 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: the numbers plummeted. And the reason they plummeted is that 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: people believe Trump was going to enforce the law. And So, 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: if you're making the decision, do I leave my country, 91 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: do I pay thousands of dollars to a human traffic 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: or do I engage in a life risking journey only 93 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: to be apprehended and saying home, No, I think I'll 94 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: just stay here. We're seeing the mirror image of that 95 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: now right now, people making that same calculation are looking 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: at Joe Biden saying, you know what, if I get there, 97 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I get to stay. So Ali, Ali Oxen free. Let's 98 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: go right right, because you know, this is a very 99 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: basic matter. But when you incentivize certain behavior, you get 100 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: more of it, and you disincentivize a certain behavior, you 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: get you know, Michael, if you say things like that, 102 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you're going to identify yourself as a conservative, and they're 103 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: going to require you to wear like a patch or something. 104 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Liberals don't understand incentives. It's one of the most fundamental 105 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: divides between left and right. It is the concept of incentives. 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: So let's take kids and kids in cages. Remember, for 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: four years we heard the press harping on kids and cages, 108 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: kids and cages, kids and cages under Trump. Well, the 109 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: cages were built by Barack Obama. To quote the former 110 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: president who built the cages, Joe right, that a lot 111 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: of these photos that had gone viral, they were from 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the Obama Obama administration. And here's why. So if you 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: go back to what broke the system was was DACA, 114 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: which now the press loves and the Democrats love. It 115 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: was President Obama's illegal executive amnesty and what had happened there. 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: If you go back and remember, and this feels like 117 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: a long time ago, this is twenty twelve, but if 118 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: you remember, Mamma had been asked over and over and 119 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: over again by immigration activists, will you just declare amnesty? 120 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Use an executive order to declare amnesty? And Obama said repeatedly, 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: I can't do that. It's against the law. He said, 122 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a king. I'm not an emperor. That's how 123 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Obama put it. I'm not a king, I'm not an emperor. 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: And then one day he woke up and he was 125 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: an emperor, and he issued a lawless order directed his 126 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: administration never mind federal immigration law. We're not going to 127 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: follow it anymore. If you came to this country as 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: a kid, we're going to grant you amnesty. Now. The 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: year before he did that, there were roughly six thousand 130 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: unaccompanied miners came into this country. Six thousand significant number. 131 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: The next year, you know how many there were more. 132 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess ninety three thousand. Wow. I didn't 133 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: realize it was that high. And it goes back to 134 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: what you just said incentives, which is kids and parents realized, Okay, 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: the president just announced if you came as a kid, 136 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: you get to stay. What's going to happen. Well, let's 137 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: send a whole bunch of kids, and actually the Obama 138 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: Department Homeland Security, they interviewed a number of these kids. 139 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: They ask them, why are you coming? And the kids said, 140 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: because I get a bettermisso, which is if I come, 141 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I get to stay. Fast forward to today, we're seeing 142 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: the exact same thing you're you're seeing the Obama administration, 143 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: or rather than the Biden administration. Right, tomato tomato. Now 144 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: it's worse. It's tomato versus like massive bright red tomato paste. 145 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Like I it's all the bad ideas like because and 146 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: they don't understand incentives, or perhaps they do understand incentives, 147 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: but actually they desire this sort of behavior because they 148 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: think it gives an advantage. You know. It reminds me 149 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: of years ago. I was reading a newspaper article and 150 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: I think it was a city council member in San 151 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Francisco who said, I don't understand we have the most 152 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: generous almost benefits in the country and we keep getting 153 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: more and more homeless people. It's so strange. Remember reading it, going, yeah, 154 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: you're right, you don't understand, Like if you pay people 155 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: to do something, they'll do it, right, And we're saying 156 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: this with it with these kids but you know, to 157 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: play devil's advocate a little bit, to give the devils 158 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: their due in the Biden administration. Jensaki said something the 159 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: other day that I was sort of exasperated when she 160 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: said it, because they said, Okay, you're you said you 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't put the kids in cages, and you're putting the 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: kids in cages, and you're letting some of them go, 163 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: but you're you have to separate them because you've got 164 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: to verify that the adults that they're with actually are 165 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: their relatives. And the things you're doing, it's basically just 166 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: what the Trump administration did. Accept it, it it would seem 167 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: to be to a much greater degree. And she said, well, 168 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: there just aren't a lot of options. I said, well, 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: where was that kind of understanding when Resident Trump was 170 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: doing that? And I guess though, I would want to 171 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: take her question seriously, what are you going to do 172 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: when there aren't a lot of options? So, look, there 173 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: are some Democrats. I think there are a lot of 174 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: Democrats across the country who want to genuinely be compassionate, 175 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: and I understand that that's the right instinct. I mean, 176 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: it's not a little kid's fault, and so you know, 177 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: Jen Saki has also said, you know, we're just we're 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: not going to lock up kids now, never mind that 179 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: they are locking up kids to a much greater degree, 180 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: to a massive degree. It comes down to incentives. Look, 181 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, I remember traveling down to Texas 182 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, of our two thousand 183 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: mile border that we have been with Mexico, twelve hundred 184 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: of those miles are along the border of the state 185 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: of Texas, so we've got more than half the borders 186 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: in Texas. And I remember visiting going to Lackland Air 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: Force Base outside of San Antonio, where they were housing 188 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: they had built facilities, built the early cages four kids. 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: This is the Obama administration. I was there visiting, and 190 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: I remember I was talking to an official from the 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: Health and Human Services Department, And mind you, this is 192 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, so it's the Obama HHS. And this 193 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: official described to me how the cartels were putting guns 194 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: to the heads of little kids and forcing children to 195 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: cut off the fingers or the ears of other kids. 196 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,359 Speaker 1: And what would happen is a family in Nicaragua, Honduras 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: or El Salvador would give three four or five thousand 198 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: dollars to a human trafficker. These human traffickers are not 199 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: nice people. They're not they don't love children. They are vicious, 200 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: horrific criminal cartels. And what they would do once the 201 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: family given three four five thousand dollars to the cartel, 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: to the trafficker, they would then deliver to the family 203 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: their child's finger or ear and say give us another 204 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, and they would extract more money from 205 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: the parents. And so the Obama HHS official told me 206 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: that they were getting number one, kids that were horribly deformed, 207 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: had fingers cut off or ears cut off, and they 208 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: were getting other kids who were psychologically traumatized because they 209 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: had a gun put to their forehead. It wasn't even 210 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the traffickers that were cutting off the fingers and ears, 211 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: it was the other kids. And my view that the 212 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: Democrats say we need to grant amnesty, we need to 213 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: let kids come because we're compassionate, I'm sorry if you're 214 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: creating a system that is incentivizing tens of thousands or 215 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: even hundreds of thousands, and the Biden Department of Homeland 216 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Security is projecting over one hundred thousand kids coming in 217 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: the country on a company little boys, little girls. If 218 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: you're putting little boys and little girls in the hands 219 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: of human traffickers, you're not compassionate, You're not humane. You 220 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: are a monster. And every one of those kids that 221 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: is sexually assaulted, and I remember, you know, I think 222 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: it's horrific. Huffington Posts some years ago with Fusion, published 223 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: a survey. I believe that the number was between sixty 224 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and eighty percent of women and girls who cross the 225 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: border illegally were raped or sexually assaulted along the way. 226 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: It is. It's staggering, and it's not humane or compassionate. 227 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: And I will say I get frustrated with Democrats who 228 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: virtue signal about how much they love immigrants that they 229 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: support a policy that involves a bunch of immigrant children 230 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: being physically and sexually abused. It is grotesque. And the 231 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: real compassionate policy is what we have had, which is 232 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: to say we're going to enforce the law, we're not 233 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: going to do catch and release, and if you come 234 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: here illegally, we're going to send you home. And the 235 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: reason that is compassionate is you don't end up with 236 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: kids being handed over to traffickers. Those numbers dropped dramatically, 237 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and we're seeing that, and it seems like Biden the 238 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: Democrats don't understand because there is an effect. There's the 239 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: question of the justice in and of itself of saying 240 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: people has a right to have its own borders. Yeah, 241 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: but then there is this secondary effect, which is you're 242 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: going to see those numbers plummet. You know, obviously in 243 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: six thousand to ninety three thousand, we're not talking a 244 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: small effect, right, I mean, we're talking orders of magnitude. 245 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: And so I'll tell you on Friday of this week, 246 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm going down to the border and I'm bringing a 247 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: number of senators. Right now, the current numbers seventeen senators 248 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: are coming down. So I invited I invited John Cornyon, 249 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: my colleague from Texas. I invited the other Republican senators. 250 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: We've got a total of seventeen senators coming down. We're 251 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna go and tour the facilities where they're detaining the kids. 252 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna tour, We're gonna meet with the Border Patrol. 253 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna meet with the Border Patrol Union. I know 254 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: those guys very very well. We're gonna go out on 255 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: a boat with Texas STPs on the Rio Grand And 256 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: let me tell you something amazing. The Biden administration has 257 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: refused to allow any reporters to attend, which was this 258 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: was not true during the Trump administration, or you got 259 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: all that flat from the press. The press had bet 260 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: much better access under the Trump administrator. Trump adminis the 261 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: press had access to all these facilities. Obama administration the 262 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: press had access. Look, the Biden administration is already worse 263 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: than the Obama administration on this front. You know the 264 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: picture of kids in cages that for four years was 265 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: blamed on Trump, that was actually a picture taken during 266 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the Obama administration. It's because they actually, you know, Biden 267 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: promised to have the most transparent administration ever. We sent 268 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: a letter and here's the ridiculous justification the Biden administration 269 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: is doing. They say, well, we'd love to have reporters there, 270 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: but we can't because of COVID. Oh so you've got 271 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: facilities with hundreds of illegal immigrants packed into them at 272 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: many hundreds of percent greater than their capacity. You've got 273 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: kids almost stacked upon each other, and their view is 274 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: there's no risk of COVID there. But one reporter, if 275 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: you are So ABC News wants to embed with us, 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: wants to come and we invited an ABC News offered 277 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: to bring a TV camera and be a pool camera. No, 278 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: what is a camera pull camera is what they call 279 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: a TV camera that will share its footage with all 280 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the other networks. So they could literally have one reporter 281 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: and one cameraman. Yeah, no, that would be a risk, 282 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: and there is a risk for COVID. And it's such 283 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: an obvious lie. You know Alejandro Mayorchis, who's the Secretary 284 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, he went on the Sunday shows this 285 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: weekend and he repeated the obvious lie. Well, it's just 286 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: because of COVID, we intend to do it. And look, 287 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: some of the press is getting agitated. So this week 288 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: I have been a vigorous defender of the press, which 289 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: is an odd position for me today. This is very strange. 290 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm biting my tongue on all the great jokes I 291 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: could make about the press right now because I actually 292 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: do sort of defend them against the Biden administration. So 293 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I actually believe in a free press. I believe in 294 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: the Fresh Amendment and what the Biden if Trump had 295 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: done with the Biden administration had done, the press would 296 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: be lighting themselves on fire. Yeah, of course. Instead they're 297 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: just shilling for and defend ending at the Trump administration. 298 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Let me get the most absurd part about all of this. 299 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: So they're releasing thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants into 300 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: my home state of Texas. They're setting up detention facilities 301 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: downtown Dallas, the Convention Center. They're detaining illegal immigrants Middland, Texas. 302 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: They're detaining illegal immigrants, much against the wishes of the community, 303 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: they're releasing them. Here's an amazing stat in Harlingen, Texas. 304 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: The illegal immigrants they're releasing are testing positive for COVID 305 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: nineteen at a seven times greater rate than the US population. 306 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: I also did not realize it was that severe. All 307 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I noticed was that the administration is now admitting that 308 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: it is releasing people into the United States who have 309 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: not been illegal aliens, who have not been tested for COVID. 310 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: And you saw the DHS secretary was sort of backed 311 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: into a corner on this and he said, well, it 312 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: is the official policy to test, is right, but are 313 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: you doing that? Well, we are doing our best, and 314 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: it's an admission, it's all but an admission that they 315 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: are releasing people in the midst of this pandemic where 316 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to leave our homes, and they're releasing 317 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: in Texas, my home state, right and the communities in 318 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Texas are not happy about that. And it's one of 319 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: the things that is frustrating about watching the Biden administration 320 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: is the absolute hypocrisy on COVID. So they're perfectly willing 321 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: to release illegal immigrants who may be criminals into Texas, 322 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: into the United States, even if they may have COVID nineteen, 323 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: and not test them. But yet they won't allow a 324 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: single reporter with a camera to see anything on the 325 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: border because that reporter might have COVID. And you know what, 326 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet even if that reporter tested negative 327 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: that day and had been vaccinated. Yeah, they still say no, 328 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: it's not the COVID risk that they're worried about. It 329 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: is the risk we don't want anyone to see the 330 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: Biden cages. I have to ask you this, with regard 331 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: to being able to go out and do things once 332 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: we're vaccinated, His Royal Highness, Doctor Anthony Faucci has come 333 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: out and suggested that sure we all get vaccinated, we're 334 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: still going to have to wear the masks socially distanced, 335 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: not gather. Maybe we can have a few friends over 336 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: for the fourth of July. Senator, We're now on day 337 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: what three hundred and seventy two of fifteen days to 338 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: slow the spread? When can we return to normal? Come 339 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: to Texas? You can do it right now. Look, Look, 340 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: it is assinine and insane. So I've been vaccinated. Members 341 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: of Congress were offered the vaccine early in January. I 342 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: actually didn't take it. Then there were number of members 343 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, who got the vaccine 344 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: early and ostentatiously. I didn't. I didn't think it was right. Look, 345 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm relatively young, I'm healthy. I didn't want to cut 346 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: in line. Yea. And so my view at the time, 347 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: as I said, we need to wait and let seniors, 348 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: let frontline workers get the vaccine first, and I don't 349 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: want to hurry. Ultimately, in the last couple of weeks, 350 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: I went ahead and got the vaccine. It had been 351 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, there'd been tens of millions of vaccines administered, 352 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: many of the seniors, many of the frontline workers had 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: gotten it. And you know, I mean, I do have 354 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: My mom is eighty six. My dad my dad actually 355 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: turned eighty two today. And so given my parents, I said, 356 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: I'm given that. I'm out a lot. As a senator, 357 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: I went ahead and got the vaccine in the Senate. 358 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the case that all one hundred senators 359 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: have the vaccine. Now I think Rand Pall may may 360 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: not have gotten it, although Rand had COVID so so 361 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: he's got the natural immunity from having had it. CDC's 362 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: guidance today is that people who are vaccinated can gather 363 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: in small groups. The most ascinining thing is senators still 364 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: gather all wearing masks, and it's just like, okay, wait, 365 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: this may be the safest place on the planet. Like 366 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: every person you're all vaccinated. But it's a virtue signal. 367 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: And you get Democrats that are wearing two masks and 368 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: it's coming three four five, They're just gonna walk around 369 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: with bags on their head. I mean, and it is. 370 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: And I'm not one of the Like there are people 371 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: who are crazies who say it's all a hoax, it 372 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, do nothing. It's going to give 373 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: you five g which frankly I could use the better 374 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: cell service. If I became a hotspot, that'd be perfectly fine. 375 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: This is Look, this is serious disease. We've had over 376 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: half million Americans killed, We've had over forty seven thousand 377 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: Texans killed. I think we need to treat it seriously. 378 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: But we have for God's sakes, has there been an 379 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: infectious disease certainly not in our lifetime that we've treated 380 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: this seriously and it has become this this irrational zellatry 381 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: and a means of control. I gotta say, if you've 382 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: had the vaccine, the idea that you must wear a 383 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: mask forever is idiotic. The whole point of getting the 384 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: vaccine is to go back to normal. Well, this gets 385 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: back to incentives. If you're if you're going to say, 386 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: all right, we want you all three hundred plus million Americans, 387 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: you need to all get the vaccine. But also, nothing 388 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: about your life can change once you get the vaccine. 389 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And look, I think a 390 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: lot of people. There are people on the extremes. There 391 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: are people that are like, shut down everything and they're 392 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: terrified to breathe. There are people who are like doesn't matter, 393 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: licking door knobs and things like that door knobs are delicious, 394 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: but most people are somewhere in the middle of like, 395 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: take reasonable precautions, but let's not be nuts about it. 396 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: If you look at how this is, this is playing out. 397 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: Those who want government control don't want to let go 398 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: of it. And I think a lot of people recognize 399 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: there's an irrationality to so, for example, restaurants. You know, 400 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: when Houston opened up, Heidi and I began going out 401 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: to eat at restaurants. So we tried to do it 402 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: preregularly because we want to support the small businesses in 403 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: our community. And the rules you're walking along you got 404 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. And I guess the virus is 405 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: somehow connected to the tension in your thigh muscles. Because 406 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: under the rules in a restaurant, if you and I 407 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: stood up, yes, then you have to put on a mask. 408 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: You're dangerous then, But as soon as we sit down 409 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: and take off the mask, and we can be here 410 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: for three hours, sitting right here, and there's no risk 411 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: of the it gets absorbed into your hamstrings. What happens 412 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: it's I think it's because your your thighs are no 413 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: longer tense, or maybe it's an altitude thing at three 414 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: feet the virus can't transmit, but at six feet it 415 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: can't thinner up there are you? Like most people realize, 416 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: come on, this is crap. Of course, I mean it airplane. 417 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: So you know, I flew from Houston to DC today, 418 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: So on the airplane, I gotta get on the plane. 419 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the plane. I'm wearing my mask. I gotta 420 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: wear my mask. I'm sitting next to someone. They're wearing 421 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: their mask. But there's the drink exception. So you got 422 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: in trouble for the drink exception. Oh my, they went nuts. 423 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: So when I drink my coffee, now I hang my 424 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: mask from my ear, so it's like visibly there. But 425 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: but I want you to think of the logic of this. 426 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: If I'm sitting there, I've got to get the mask 427 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: because it's going to kill people. Yeah, but if I 428 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: have a cup of coffee in my hand, the coffee 429 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: absorbs it. The virus. I think it's and it works 430 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: for a coke. It wears for orange juice, water, it's liquid. 431 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: The virus doesn't like liquid or food, yes, liquid or solid. 432 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: It only likes like At some point, everyone's going this 433 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Oh, it's an obviously arbitrary exercise 434 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: in power. And it does actually get to something that 435 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: I guess relates, but it gets to this abuse of 436 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: power more broadly, though I have to ask you about 437 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: it's from the mail bag question from Prudence who asks 438 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: if HR one passes, So HR one you've referred to 439 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: it as the Corrupt Politicians Act. Yeah, if HR one passes, 440 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: is there any legal case to fight back against it? 441 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: So not not a political case to defeat it before 442 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: it passes. But let's say God forbid it happens. Can 443 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: you fight it in court? Of course, And if the 444 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: crup Politicians Act passes, there will be lots of legal 445 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: cases challenging it. But I gotta say, if it passes, 446 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: we're going to lose all those cases. And tell me 447 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: that I don't really end on a high note. Don't 448 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: don't count on the courts to save us. And here's why. Yeah, 449 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: if the Corrupt Politicians Act passes, it will pass because 450 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats have ended the filibuster. The filibuster is the 451 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: rule that requires sixty votes to pass legislation. If they've 452 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: ended it and dropped it to fifty votes, that's the 453 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: only way they'll pass the Corrupt Politicians Act designed to 454 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: keep Democrats in power for the next hundred years. If 455 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: that happens, they will then add two new states to 456 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: the Union. They'll add the District Columbia, the lad Puerto Rico. 457 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: That's because Democrats believe they will elect four Democratic senators. 458 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: DC clearly will Puerto Rico might or might not. Republicans. 459 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: We'd fight for Puerto Rico and try to win. But 460 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: if Democrats are right that that elects four new Democratic Senators, 461 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: they will then pack the United States Supreme Court. They 462 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: will add four left wing judicial activists the Supreme Court, 463 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: take it from nine justices to thirteen. If that happens, 464 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: the odds are one hundred point zero zero zero percent 465 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: that the packed left wing Supreme Court will uphold the 466 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: Corrupt Politicians Act, because the Democrats will only appoint left 467 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: wing activists who will uphold the Corrupt Politicians Act. So 468 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the key them now that you've taken away that hope 469 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: that we might be able to fight in court. But 470 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: I think rightly so if you have to fight it 471 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: before it's past, then that requires keeping the filibuster, and 472 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: that requires winning over one of the moderate semi moderate Democrats. 473 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: So where we stand right now in the Senate, they're 474 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: fifty Republicans and fifty Democrats, so it's evenly divided. That 475 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: means that any tie vote, the Vice President Kamala Harris 476 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: breaks the time of the fifty Democrats. If all of 477 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: them vote together, they can end the filibuster. They can 478 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: do what it's called the nuclear option. Now what does 479 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: that mean. Look, the filibuster has written into the rules 480 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: of the Senate that it takes sixty votes to go forward. 481 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: But the way you exercise the nuclear option is the 482 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: majority leader, Chuck Schumer moves to proceed to a bill. 483 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: You have a vote. The vote is fifty fifty Vice 484 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: President votes yes, and the presiding Officer rules that fifty 485 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: one votes not being sixty, you can't proceed to it. 486 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: And in the Senate rules, any senator can appeal the 487 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: ruling of the chair. So what would happen is Chuck 488 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: Schumer would appeal the ruling of the chair and would say, 489 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: the chair just ruled that we need sixty votes to 490 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: proceed to this. I appeal the ruling of the chair, 491 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: and if all fifty Democrats vote in favor of the appeal, 492 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: and if the Vice President votes in favor of the appeal. 493 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: That's fifty one votes. You can appeal the ruling of 494 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: the chair with fifty one votes, and under the Senate, 495 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: that becomes a precedent. So it breaks the rules of 496 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: the Senate that are written. Because you have fifty one 497 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: votes to appeal the ruling of the chair, that becomes 498 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the new precedent. That it no longer takes sixty even 499 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: though that's what's written in the rules, it takes fifty one. 500 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Of the fifty Democrats, only two have suggested that they 501 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't end the filibuster. The Tube suggested it, or Joe Mansion, 502 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat from West Virginia, and Kirsten Cinema, who 503 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: is a Democrat from Arizona Bright. Now both of them 504 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: are making lots of noise like we're going to stand 505 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: up and not end the filibuster. I gotta admit I 506 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: am very skeptical. YEA, let's take Joe Mansion. So Joe, 507 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: who's the governor of West Virginia, has been Senator. Joe 508 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: is a very nice, affable, likable guy who's a college 509 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: football quarterback, just like me and you football quarterback. You know, 510 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: we were the geeks in the Debate Club. He was 511 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: the star quarterback, exactly the same. Everybody likes Joe. You 512 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: can't not like Joe. He just has a personality that 513 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: is easy and affable. When I first got elected to 514 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: the Senate, I remember Jim Demant told me. He said, Ted, 515 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion is like a purple unicorn. He will always, always, 516 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: always be there for you until you need him. I 517 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: can tell you nine years in the Senate, I do 518 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: not know of a single issue of consequence on which 519 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion was the deciding vote. So basically, what Joe 520 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: has done is if Republicans going to win, if we 521 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: had fifty one votes, he might give you a fifty seconds. 522 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: So he might make it bipartisan, but he's not going 523 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to be that. He has never on any issue that 524 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: matters in the nine years I've served with it, I've 525 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: never seen him willing to stand up to Chuck Schumer. 526 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: What about cinema? She hadn't been there that long. She's 527 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: only been there a couple of years. I like her, 528 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: She's very nice. I haven't seen her stand up to Schumer. Now, 529 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: who knows. She hadn't been there long enough that we 530 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: don't have as long a track history with her. But 531 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what Schumer has the degree to which 532 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Democrats are terrified to cross him. And so here's my 533 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: concern is that Cinema caves and Mansion finds a cute 534 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: game to pretend he didn't cave. It seems like he's 535 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: already setting that up. So he's talking about the talking filibuster. Now, 536 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: the talking filibuster is to say, well, any senator can 537 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: speak as long as they want, but at the end 538 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: of the talking filibuster, we're going to vote. And insisting 539 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: on the talking filibuster is away to break the filibuster. 540 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: By the way, if they insist on a talking filibuster, 541 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend some time talking. You have a little 542 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: bit of a track record on it. I have I 543 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: think the fourth longest in history, twenty one hours. Could 544 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: we do verdict from the Senate floor. They won't let 545 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: us do that. But you know, last time I read 546 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: Green Eggs and Ham, I will tell you a friend 547 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: of a very dear friend of mine suggested said, if 548 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats forced the talking filibuster, Republicans should stand up 549 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and read the Bible from cover to cover. I think 550 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: many on the other side of the alt would go 551 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: screaming out of the room. It actually is a great 552 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: way to clear democrats off the floor. But look, we'll 553 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: see what happens. But insisting on the talking filibuster is 554 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: frankly a game to say I haven't ended the filibuster. 555 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: But at the end, when eventually you collapse and can 556 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: talk no longer, then you vote in it's fifty and 557 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: you pass the Corrupt Politicians Act, and you pack the 558 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and you do lasting structural damage to the country. 559 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: You know that. It would seem to me you have 560 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: seen a lot of these things coming, and we've talked 561 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: about it on the show. 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