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Speaker 2: All let's do it live on a Monday edition of

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Speaker 3: We are technically still on it offense. What do you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, you can't have music when you join us tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: There's a mood. Oh yeah, I think anytime you're out

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Speaker 2: a fireplace, there's a move, there's a vibe. How'd you guys?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys do anything this weekend? You got anything

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Speaker 5: I worked till ten thirty Saturday night, moving everything over

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Speaker 4: You know, there was a little bit of action around

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Speaker 4: the National Football League for you. We did a little

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Speaker 4: bit of the radio, We did some TV recaps. We'll

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Speaker 4: do another radio recap tonight. We're gonna do what I

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Speaker 4: would imagine here today. So yeah, there was a lot

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Speaker 4: what they had to deal with starting at pick seventy four.

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Speaker 4: We'll get that in a second, but I will tell

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Speaker 4: you that. But I don't know that there is anybody

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Speaker 4: who was happier about the Browns draft pick and then

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Speaker 4: potentially some of the rumored names that have been linked

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Speaker 4: to the Browns in undrafted free agency than s he

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Speaker 4: sent me. I think he is just overwhelmed with excitement

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Speaker 4: that so many Buckeyes are going to be wearing the

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Speaker 2: I had. I had a bit on in another platform

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, where so the fourteen draft, that's the

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Speaker 2: John Football Draft. Yes, okay, so coming out of the

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Speaker 2: John Football justin Gilbert Draft. I did a bit in

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Speaker 2: fifteen for the Browns to just draft best available Buck

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Speaker 2: the Bosa Elliott Thomas. That's pretty loaded draft von Bell.

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Speaker 2: I mean there was a lot of dude, yep, and

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Speaker 2: of as a spoof of like, man, are they like

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Speaker 2: obviously changed greatly, but there's a great pomp and circumstance

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Speaker 2: land a couple of them. And then it's reportedly now

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Speaker 2: do we have to see reportedly still on the free

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Speaker 2: agent stuff the endraft it.

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Speaker 4: Is report, Yeah, the Browns have not made it official yet,

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Speaker 3: What do you think of those guys?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the ones on the reportedly, I think's

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Speaker 2: that's indeed turns out to be factual and the reports

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Speaker 2: are true, I think he's got a real shot. Juxtaposed

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Speaker 2: The Duan Jones pick is just such a home run

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Speaker 2: for him personally. This is a damn near literal mountain

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Speaker 2: the size would have been about right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure you guys all know about

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Speaker 4: I've been saying all along, you know what's better than

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Speaker 4: and so it's one thing to give him a ball

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Speaker 4: How about an absolute mountain of clay to mold? And

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Speaker 4: a tremendous career in the National Football League. Dame Brugler

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Speaker 3: I don't know the full story.

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Speaker 4: I just know that people said the reason he was

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Speaker 4: But the talent is immense, and I think the Browns

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Speaker 3: You will be as good as you want to be.

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Speaker 3: You want to be.

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Speaker 4: If you want to be good, you're going to be great.

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Speaker 4: If if you don't, you're not going to be in

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Speaker 4: what you have to tell a guy I like Big Thanos.

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Speaker 4: But you know the fact is he didn't allow a

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Speaker 2: I checked in with some of my buddies down seventy

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Speaker 4: It would be like you have your were not you know,

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Speaker 4: a great golfer, but then you get drafted somehow to

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's for an offensive lineman. I don't think

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Speaker 4: some very uncomfortable veterans here. I think you're able to

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Speaker 4: do some succession planning. We'll talk about that. But the

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Speaker 4: fact that the Hofs going in, you get an extra

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Speaker 4: you know, I'd love to be a Brown. But if not,

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Speaker 4: but for Adwan Jones, for a Luke Whippler, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get extra time with Bill Callahan. They're gonna get a

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Speaker 3: But they're going to get.

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Speaker 4: A chance to play more this preseason than the rookies

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Whippler. He is someone that shocked the Ohigh

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Speaker 2: And I feel like we did in both of those instances.

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Speaker 2: And then Zach Harrison won after, which is a guy

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Speaker 2: not like you're scouting every player and every roster, right,

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Speaker 2: You're doing the best you can in live time in

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Speaker 2: terms of he was the best receiver at Tennessee before

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Speaker 4: Actually outproduced he actually produced Hyatt if you take the

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Speaker 3: Is your uh really compaired to enjoy the weekend? Awesome guy?

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Speaker 4: his body type from Danny's per se. And you know,

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Speaker 4: this is a guy that I think will play immediately.

437
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Speaker 4: If you said, of all the guys, who is going

438
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Speaker 4: to make the biggest impact in twenty twenty three, to me,

439
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 4: it's going to be Siaki Eka because I see no

440
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Speaker 4: reason why you wouldn't put him next to Dalvin Tomlinson

441
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Speaker 4: in obvious running situations. And if he can push the

442
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Speaker 4: pocket in the pros as he did in college, I

443
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 4: think that there's a reason why he can't be that

444
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 4: second guy if we want to get big, because we've

445
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Speaker 4: got guys who can get around the edge, and then

446
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Speaker 4: you won't be able to run up the middle on us.

447
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Speaker 3: So I thought that was a good pick. You saw Jim.

448
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Speaker 4: Schwartz beaming when he talked to him. But if you said,

449
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Speaker 4: of this rookie class, who do you think makes the

450
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Speaker 4: biggest impact starting week one? I think it's going to

451
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Speaker 4: be Siaki Eka, because I think he is going to

452
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Speaker 4: play right away tilman. He may come out here and

453
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Speaker 4: dominate at camp. And then also in you're saying, watecon,

454
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Speaker 4: we gotta get this guy in the field. But Siakieka

455
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: brings something that nobody else in that room has. Number

456
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Speaker 4: one in terms of his side. Tomlinson's a lot bigger,

457
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Speaker 4: but we got significantly bigger in the middle of this defense.

458
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Speaker 4: And I think now you're saying to yourself, boy, there's

459
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Speaker 4: a lot of competition to make this roster in that

460
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Speaker 4: defensive tackle room. I mean, I think you can put

461
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Speaker 4: in Penn, Tomlinson and Eca and after that a lot

462
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Speaker 4: of competition. Perry On on talent should be there, but

463
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 4: perry On right now is his own worst enemy. Yeah,

464
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: Jordan Elliott, last year your rookie deal. We'll see Tommy Togi,

465
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Speaker 4: I Uphill battle Maurice Hurst. If he shows what he

466
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 4: does when he's on the field and can stay healthy,

467
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Speaker 4: I think he's he's got a chance.

468
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Speaker 3: And then Tristan Hill is a former second rounder.

469
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Speaker 4: So there are a lot of guys in that room,

470
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Speaker 4: not a lot of spots, but Ike I think is

471
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Speaker 4: going to occupy when I think he's going to make

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Speaker 4: an immediate impact for this team.

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Speaker 3: I don't see how he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might need to if we're going to

475
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Speaker 2: be what we need to be. He might actually need

476
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Speaker 2: to do all of those things. You have follow His

477
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: coach David Randa, who's a defensive coordinator at LSU who

478
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Speaker 2: took the job at Baylor, took Eca with him as

479
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 2: they went out to Baylor. So that's a pretty good

480
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Speaker 2: kind of rundown of the big Ones in terms of

481
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Speaker 2: how this thing is gonna take to take off and

482
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Speaker 2: take shape. We we did. We did have this on Friday.

483
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Speaker 2: I want to say it was like we were throwing

484
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Speaker 2: away at the end of the shows or anything that

485
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Speaker 2: would surprise you. And I think one of us said, yeah,

486
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Speaker 2: taking a quarterback.

487
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Speaker 4: Like that, it would be like yeah, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did remember talking about it, and

490
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Speaker 2: and not not that it was the way that it

491
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Speaker 2: all happened. It all makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's just you didn't think that that would be the case.

493
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Speaker 2: I also didn't think that we would draft as many

494
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Speaker 2: as seven.

495
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Speaker 3: I thought it was surprised by seven.

496
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Speaker 4: Then the quarterback, and I think My guess is if

497
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Speaker 4: Luke Whippler wasn't there, I don't know that we draft

498
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Speaker 4: seven guys to be it might have been. I think

499
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: that that was they felt if that was just too

500
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Speaker 4: good of a value to pass up, let's get him.

501
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Speaker 4: We traded out of the seventh round. But on Thursday

502
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Speaker 4: night on News five, before I started the draft coverage,

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things that I profiled was

504
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Speaker 4: was quarterback, and in that case, I looked at the

505
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: kid from Fresno State Hain who I think went early

506
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Speaker 4: in the fourth round when they kind of had that

507
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Speaker 4: start on the quarterback run and then you know, we

508
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Speaker 4: get dtr in the fifth round, and boy, talking to

509
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Speaker 4: that kid is fun. Did you know high school teammate

510
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Speaker 4: of Cedric Tillman at Bishop Gorman. So they were at

511
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: the same high school together. So you talk about that

512
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Speaker 4: extra preseason game, you talk about rookie mini camp, it's

513
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Speaker 4: not power then, Yeah, it's not often that you're gonna

514
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Speaker 4: get to go out there.

515
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Speaker 3: They were just throwing like a week or two before

516
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Speaker 3: the draft together.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and gets on he's getting on the plane to

518
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: come to Bria and he says to his mom, wouldn't

519
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 4: be so cool if somehow like DTR ends up here

520
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: and then when they're on the plane, she got the

521
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Speaker 4: notification and showed him and then he said he was pumped,

522
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Speaker 4: and and they've talked and obviously they're happy. But that's

523
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Speaker 4: I think a great advantage for them, right in a

524
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: rookie mini camp situation where you have a quarterback and

525
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: receiver who throw together, who played together in high school.

526
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Speaker 4: And I think that should be a big advantage in

527
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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game. And so I think that

528
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 4: helps both of them hit the ground running. And you know,

529
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Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs is the backup this year, but DTR his job,

530
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Speaker 4: I think is to beat out Kellen Mond and if

531
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Speaker 4: he does that, I think there's a good chance he

532
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Speaker 4: becomes our backup quarterback of the future. And you know,

533
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: he played his fifth year, his last year as a graduate.

534
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: He was just able to focus on football, and so

535
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Speaker 4: he said, I was more about the tape. I just

536
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 4: under everything became easier because that was literally my only job.

537
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Speaker 4: He completed almost seventy percent of his passes last year

538
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Speaker 4: at UCLA. He's the all time passing leader in UCLA history,

539
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: all time passing touchdown leader in UCLA history, all time

540
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: total yardage leader in UCLA history. I know in college

541
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Speaker 4: people at some people don't understand this, but you obviously,

542
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: I know you do. Yeah, sacks count is negative rushing

543
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: negative rush yep. So when he rushed for six hundred

544
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Speaker 4: and plus yards last year, he actually rushed for about

545
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Speaker 4: eight hundred yards and the sack yards is what dropped

546
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Speaker 4: him down into the six hundred.

547
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Speaker 3: So he is a true dual threat.

548
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Speaker 4: He's a guy that they feel can do, you know,

549
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: run the same offense that they're running, you know, with

550
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson, and that I think is a great fine look.

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Speaker 3: Is he a perfect prospect? Of course not.

552
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Speaker 4: He wouldn't be available in the fifth round as a QUARTERBA.

553
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 4: But he's a guy that can become a long term

554
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Speaker 4: backup for you.

555
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, I'd rather have him than

556
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Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett or On Clifford as an NFL team because

557
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: there is a high end ceiling of talent here that

558
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: can be developed and those other guys do not have

559
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Speaker 2: that type of high end, high ceiling talent. This kid

560
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: played a ton of football a ton. He played a

561
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Speaker 2: lot as a freshman. He played three full seasons as

562
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Speaker 2: the starter as a sophomore, and then he had, you know,

563
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 2: the two senior seasons, was hurt. As a junior, he

564
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 2: was as their teams got better. He's basically been there

565
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Speaker 2: the whole time. Chip Kelly was there. As their team

566
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Speaker 2: got better, he got better. I mean he was a

567
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: one man wrecking crew early on in his career. He

568
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: had to do everything. Like his sophomore year, he was

569
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Speaker 2: their entire offense. Well, they got Zach Charbona to come

570
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Speaker 2: in from Michigan and all of a sudden their roster

571
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Speaker 2: got a little better. They had a really good year

572
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Speaker 2: last season at UCLA. But he would be one of

573
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Speaker 2: those guys if you watch college football where you would

574
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Speaker 2: see a Ucla highlight, like, for example, they beat LSU.

575
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Speaker 2: I want to say last year, maybe the year before,

576
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Speaker 2: early in the season, and you saw a highlight and

577
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Speaker 2: you're like, whoa, oh there he is. Oh it's and

578
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Speaker 2: then you remember him because he's been omnipresent on the

579
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Speaker 2: West Coast at UCLA and he had a couple of

580
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Speaker 2: flash plays it felt like every weekend.

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Speaker 4: Every week and a guy who was just honestly tough

582
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Speaker 4: as nails. He played quarterback at UCLA at six one,

583
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Speaker 4: two oh five. He was fearless with his running and

584
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Speaker 4: his ability to know. He would say, put himself in

585
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 4: a little bit of harm's way, but to make plays

586
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 4: because as you said, he was in many ways a

587
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: one man show for them.

588
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Speaker 3: And I love it.

589
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 4: A guy when you go up to seventy percent completion,

590
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: you work that hard to get better at your craft,

591
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: plus you can run. That's somebody that I definitely think

592
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: that they can work with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that one. And you look at

594
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Speaker 2: this time, you like everything. But the sense and the

595
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: thought behind it makes a lot of sense too, in

596
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Speaker 2: terms of how this draft worked out. And now we

597
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Speaker 2: get to see him and that'll be the fun part.

598
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Speaker 2: And be sure to catch the Browns Draft review show

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Speaker 2: tonight seven to eight ESPN, Cleveland right here all along

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Speaker 2: the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network. Lenn Cook will

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Speaker 2: join Ken and Z for that tonight. Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: lot of other news as we were concerning the Browns

603
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Speaker 2: in terms of Jed Wills, in terms of training camp

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Speaker 2: will separate some fact from fiction on that coming up next.

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Speaker 2: more on that. We had some more news yesterday and

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Speaker 2: this being reported today ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. The Browns are

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Speaker 2: picking up the fifth year option on left tackle Jedrick Wills.

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Speaker 2: Guarantees a salary of fourteen million bucks a little bit

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Speaker 2: more for the twenty twenty four season for the former

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Speaker 2: number ten overall pick. But this is still very much

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Speaker 2: a proven year for jed and you need him to

624
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: bounce back in a big way. And this is hey,

625
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Speaker 2: we believe in you. But also let's go.

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Speaker 4: It says, if you would like to make a lot

627
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Speaker 4: of money and you would like to become compensated as

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00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: a top left tackle, we need to see something serious

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Speaker 4: from you this year. And if not, we've got Dwan Jones,

630
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Speaker 4: We've got James Hudson, wait, and the wings were continuing

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Speaker 4: to develop, and we'll make a decision.

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Speaker 3: You've got now control for two years.

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Speaker 4: The fact is, I think that if Jed Wills, you know,

634
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Speaker 4: plays well this year, you could see an extension happen.

635
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: If Jed Wills doesn't play that well this year, you

636
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: still have him at a very reasonable rate for a

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Speaker 4: left tackle. I mean, he's always he's good, He's always

638
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: been solid. He has not yet been you know what

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Speaker 4: I think they had drafted him to be, which is

640
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Speaker 4: a pro bowler and the dominant players a number ten

641
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: pick in the draft. But it's still there. Talent wise,

642
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: he's got it all. And now you have flexibility as

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Speaker 4: an organization. You have two more years to kind of

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: make that decision and also for Jed to hopefully elevate

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00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: his level of play and put you in a situation

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Speaker 4: where you got to hand out a big contract because

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Speaker 4: you want to keep him here for a very very

648
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: long time. So I like the move the Browns also

649
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: with that fifty year control, if they decide that, you know,

650
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: somebody develops or they're not happy, it gives an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to trade him at a very reasonable rate to somebody

652
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: else and get great capital. But I think the plan

653
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: is you want Jed Wills to be here. That was

654
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: the first pick of this regime. They want him to

655
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: become a star. And I think it's on Jed Wills,

656
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: and this is the year really right to go out

657
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: and do it.

658
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny like sometimes I as you look back

659
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: on the career to this point, I look back to

660
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: some of the promise as a rookie as the high point.

661
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Like we used to say all the time about Jed

662
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: that first year, Like we never said his name, which

663
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: is what you want out of an offensive lineman. Like

664
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: there weren't the misses, there weren't you know. It was

665
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: just very solid play for a rookie who transitioned pretty

666
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: quickly to the left side that rookie year, you know.

667
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: And so I think what's happened is while he's still

668
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: a very solid player, you haven't seen that growth year

669
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: to year that you thought that you assumed that usually

670
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: happens in this league. As you get more comfortable, you

671
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: become more dominant, become a better version of yourself. We

672
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: just haven't seen that from Jed the way that we

673
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: Maybe he was surprising as a rookie, how quickly he

674
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: transitioned and then we just you haven't seen that growth

675
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: the way that you thought.

676
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

677
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: I think that that is definitely you know, injuries have happened,

678
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: it just hasn't been. You know, you want a pro

679
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: bowler right when you d have the idea, you want

680
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: them to be a pro bowler, and we've been we

681
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: are so used to when we were so spoiled with

682
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: a standard of excellence from Joe Thomas that you know,

683
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: when you pick a left tackle in the first round,

684
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: in the top ten, you're expecting that person to be great,

685
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: expect them to be the hop absurd, but you want

686
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: them to be regarded as one of the better left

687
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: tackles in the league.

688
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: You don't want it.

689
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: You want them to be finishing every play. You want

690
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 4: them to be somebody that is in contention for a

691
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. Berth If they are not a pro bowler,

692
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: you know, you're playing next to a perennial pro bowler

693
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: in Joel Botonio. And I think that for Jed Wills,

694
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: you know, it hasn't necessarily gotten there. And I think

695
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: that this is an opportunity three years in to say, look, yes,

696
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: I have unbelievable talent. What why have I not maximized

697
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: that talent like some of the others around me? And

698
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: I think that's a you know, those are questions that

699
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: only Jed can answer, and hopefully he's able to identify

700
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: those things and and have the desire to correct them.

701
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: He's always going to play in the league. Jed Wills

702
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: will be in the league for a decade, so it's

703
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: a question of just what does he want that decade

704
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: to look like from a performance from an accolade and

705
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: then from a financial standpoint.

706
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really that simple. And you know, Wurf's

707
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: picked behind him and he's had that He's gotten to

708
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: that point where he's an all pro type player. So

709
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: that's that's out there as well. We also have signed

710
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: punter Joseph Carlton, so that that has happened as well.

711
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: Joaths he was with us last year.

712
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: Correct, Joe Charlton. Yeah, he was with us last year.

713
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: He was I got to uh. I played a.

714
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: Few holes with him at the UH at the golf

715
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: golf out. Great dude, great dude, Yeah was Ashen was great.

716
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: By the way, I think I think that's our date.

717
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 5: It's that who's twenty eight coming back to the west

718
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: side Bishop It'll be great.

719
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: They love it over there, they love it darn right.

720
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: The east side of town doesn't exist.

721
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: It's weird. Go there. I think I'm out of town

722
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: on the thirtieth odd.

723
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm ready on vacation that day. Hard

724
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Are we gonna have the same polos? Remember that? Like

725
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: we went over the polo issue with the callers last year.

726
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: It was the callers and the sleeves.

727
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: I think the golf shop is going to be open

728
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: for you.

729
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: I have a feeling the golf shop will be open.

730
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that will happen again where we don't.

731
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to be Grattis like

732
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: it should be, but I think it'll be open.

733
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: I think a little Grandis would go a long ways.

734
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: And then this, uh this coming out Sunday as well,

735
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: And we'd known about this for a little bit, but

736
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: the training camp getting a little busier. The team will

737
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: hold the first week of training camp at the Greenbrier

738
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: in West Virginia. I was there last year. Uh, so

739
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: you have that as well. Practice is not open to

740
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: the public down there. There's still some details. There will

741
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: still be open practices.

742
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: Here in we We have not officially announced it, but

743
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 5: in the media announced it yesterday.

744
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: So it feels like the cats out of the bag.

745
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: Baby.

746
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: You got a thousand people reporting it, you know, I mean,

747
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 2: is it Stefanski quoted?

748
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: Yes?

749
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Isn't that official? Can't that be official?

750
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: Yes? It feels official.

751
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Coach. Coach wants to get away. Okay, I want to

752
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: get away. Good Lord one.

753
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: That's where we're at.

754
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: You've been there. Have all of us been there?

755
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: I've been there. I have not been there.

756
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: You have been giving It's one of the most unique

757
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: places you could be.

758
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: I would say part of it's like going back in time.

759
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say part of the main hotel is

760
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: like going back in time in many many ways.

761
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

762
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: You've got the secret nuclear bunker there. You've got a

763
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: town that is basically I want us to do a

764
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 4: show from the bunker, a town that's there just basically

765
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: because the greenbriers there. It feels like, is it like

766
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: West Sulfur Springs. I want to say something, White Sulfur Springs,

767
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: White Sulfur Springs.

768
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: Yep.

769
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: You've got world class golf courses. You have one that

770
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: had hosted a Ryder Cup. You've got now one that

771
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: has a tour stop. And then the best course is

772
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: probably at the sporting club across the street. The sneed

773
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: so great golf. Givea bringer clubs. Uh, some great pools.

774
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: All of the courses are ridiculous. You are all great.

775
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean the Old White, the Old Whites, that's where

776
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: they play the played the p g A. But then

777
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: there's another one that the pros down there love. That's

778
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: it was a nick no no no, that's that private one.

779
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: But there's another one that like just the public can

780
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: play that is that is really good too. It's not

781
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: just the Old White. There's another one that's really good.

782
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Green the original Greenbrier, that's it, the Green Broye. That's

783
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: why they had a right I think they had They

784
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: had a Ryder Cup there. Yeah, it's been around forever,

785
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: so it's it's really cool. I'll hack that up Jerry

786
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: West Steakhouse.

787
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: We're not going to be able to. I might just

788
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: have to be I might have to drive it all

789
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: down there. What you mean like you can't pack your

790
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: clubs on the team plane.

791
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Are we sure you're gone? Are we all going? I

792
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: mean I'm not, But are you guys going? Is it lockdown?

793
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: Do you want to go? I'm pretty sure we're gone.

794
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: We can drive. It's five hours, it's.

795
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: A full drive.

796
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: It's a full drive, and it's not easy.

797
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: I'd rather I'd rather have a v that way.

798
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I need to get into some shenanigans or

799
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 5: if we need to go.

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: There's nowhere to go. There's no shenanigans.

801
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: You know.

802
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: The property has plenty of shenanigans. The property is probably

803
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: all sorts ofians that you want. I'm just saying, like,

804
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: you're not leaving the premises.

805
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: There's got to be an elite dive bar that's got

806
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: Gibba all over Social Springs.

807
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: For sure, let's go, for sure.

808
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 4: Just don't just don't tip over the row of motorcycles

809
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: when you go into it, giving you might end up in.

810
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: You make that left out of there, you make a left.

811
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh baby, Yeah, but you know the place is awesome.

812
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: It's a it's just a very unique experience in every way.

813
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: Well, the Saints have done it right. The Saint Saints

814
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: did it.

815
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: And I want to say the Titans or the Rams

816
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: maybe in.

817
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: The old Saint Louis I don't know how many years

818
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: in a row.

819
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Well that one that was the Saints home.

820
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: For Yeah, and it made all the sense of the

821
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: world too, because for this from the Saints perspective, you know,

822
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: like New Orleans in late July is a bear from

823
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 2: a heat humidity standpoint, So it made all the sense

824
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: of the world, you know, from that standpoint. So but

825
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: from a there will still be open practice. I think

826
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: the big thing for our fans is there will still

827
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: be the open practices here in Berea. So and remember,

828
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: we have an extra week of camp because you've got this,

829
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: You've got the Hall of Fame game.

830
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: I forget.

831
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: And then is are we doing Philly? We're going to

832
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Philly right for a week. Yeah, that's another week. You'll

833
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: have team practice, you'll have those those practices with with

834
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Philly that.

835
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: We're not going to be there for a week. Why

836
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: does everybody keep saying.

837
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: That, because that's not how it works. You have joined

838
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: me excess for a couple days and you play a

839
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: game and then you leave.

840
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: Bishop. Let me.

841
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: This got brought up to me the other day by

842
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 5: Will Scarlett, and I go, it's a week. Yeah, he

843
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 5: and a girl like No, I go, if if because

844
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 5: we don't know the schedule yet, Yeah.

845
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: If we play on if we play.

846
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: On Friday, yep, you travel Monday practice, Tuesday practice, Wednesday

847
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 5: off day, Thursday, Friday game fly back?

848
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: Is that a week?

849
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: I think you're so. I think what you here's how

850
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna win your argument. Give This is my advice

851
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: to you. Call it a work week because it's going

852
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: to be five days. It's not going to be a

853
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: week like seven the traditional stand.

854
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a work I'll accept that.

855
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 5: I think, by the way, that's a full that's a

856
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 5: full week of stuff.

857
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: I think you will be accountable for five.

858
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: Days with us.

859
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: They came in late on Monday night, the Eagles, did

860
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: they practice Tuesday, Wednesday, thursdays off. Then we play the

861
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: game against him on a Friday, right, yeah, four nights.

862
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

863
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: Listen, and when it comes to schedules and things, I

864
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: back Scarlet. Scarlett feels like he's a little bit more

865
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: plugged in than maybe we are.

866
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: He's locked in.

867
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, maybe, I mean he is the plug. By

868
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: the way, the Saints and the Texans practice at the.

869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 2: Green, that's right, okay, yeah, yeah, the boys are running

870
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: around on the fields up there. That they built that

871
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: facility up there across the street where they've got the

872
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: two football fields and they've got the I imagine they

873
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: put everybody up there, which is totally separate from the rest.

874
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: Of the resort. I don't know.

875
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: They got dorms and stuff up there. I'll send you

876
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: some pictures, Gibbe dorms.

877
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: The forty nine ers also practice there in twenty and

878
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: twenty one.

879
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it when they stayed out on the

880
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: East Coast, right when they have like two games, Yes, sir,

881
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: they do it.

882
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

883
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I can't imagine they're not going to

884
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: put the whole team up in that original hotel. There's

885
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: no way.

886
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: No. There are those cottages though that there are.

887
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 2: But there's not enough.

888
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: No, probably not.

889
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: No. I mean that they have that housing. That's going

890
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: to be a call.

891
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: Take.

892
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 5: How about me and you in a dorm room, Gibbe,

893
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: I am in and we're live streaming it.

894
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: That would be unbelievable. That's set up.

895
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: Hell, oh my god, I'm going shirtless for the week.

896
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: You guys, gees, you guys need some of those gummies

897
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: I took in southern California. That's what you'd need for

898
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: that trip. I tell you what. Alway across the board,

899
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: bet jeez, let's thing that went south?

900
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: All right?

901
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: Or north? I guess, depending on the perspective of it.

902
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
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Speaker 2: We big Mel. What a job out of him.

912
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: I saw somebody a debate as to whether or not

913
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: he should be in the Pro Football Hall of fame.

914
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: I say, yes, I.

915
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Agree the NFL draft relevant.

916
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: He yeah, you're right, give it And I think I

917
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: mean he was he created a beat, He created a

918
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: job like that didn't even exist, his job that there

919
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: was no such thing as that until he did it

920
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: from a Yeah, I think so when you think of

921
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: a contributor, Yeah, that feels like it to me.

922
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.

923
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard Goodell on Friday Friday. Did he open remarks?

924
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: I think he opened his remarks with this, and I

925
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: don't know if this was right. Now we said thirty

926
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: million people watched Round one. That has to be obviously

927
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: like on every platform streaming everything. That doesn't seem possible

928
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 2: from a ratings standpoint.

929
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: Media viewership, uh over the three day event, fifty four

930
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 5: point four million, gosh six million viewers TV and digital

931
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: over three days across all networks and digital channels. Three

932
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: hundred and twelve thousand fans attended in Kansas City.

933
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: That blew my mind. That Like there when they said

934
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Friday night, the Thursday night, they had one hundred and

935
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people down there, crazy.

936
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, that's some of these numbers are just enormous.

937
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: It's a behemoth, man, it's a behemoth. It's the NFL,

938
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: and now we're going to get you. See how they

939
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: didn't even know what day they wanted to do the

940
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: schedule release. And I think now that Rogers has been

941
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: traded and Lamar Jackson signed, they're like, all right, now

942
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: we can do the schedule.

943
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 3: So it looks like a good.

944
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 5: Point targeting Thursday, May eleventh.

945
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: Third first shifter May eleventh.

946
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little time the league is meeting today is

947
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: they continue attempts to finalize it. But with Aaron Rodgers

948
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: traded and Lamar Jackson signed, the coast is clear to

949
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: move ahead and lock everything in.

950
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see how they treat us this year,

951
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: like are they are we back in terms of we'll

952
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: get the kind of you know, marquee matchups on primetime

953
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: that you would think we would get or no.

954
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: Well I'm gonna say no. I think that I was

955
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: sorry to people down in Cincinnati and they feel like

956
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: they're getting max. Whatever their max is, I'm sure Baltimore

957
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: will be close to the max. I would think ten

958
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: win team with Lamar the Jets. Think we could get

959
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: the Jets now into the fray. They're going to be

960
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: on all the time.

961
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: With Rogers, you legitimately could have every AFC North matchup

962
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: in primetime once this year. I don't think there'd be

963
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: anything wrong with that.

964
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: No, I don't promo with that.

965
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: That's a lot though.

966
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: I mean it'd be US against the Ravens, US against

967
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: the Bengals, US against Steelers, Steelers against Ravens, Steels, the

968
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: whole deal. I think you could get it all because

969
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: they're they're that compelling. Not to mention, we're going to

970
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: get East.

971
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: Is going to be the same way. Oh yeah, I

972
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: mean those they cover at those markets. Anyway, it's still

973
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: Patriots though. Look how many times they were on primetime

974
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 2: last year and they.

975
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: Suck ugh, gross awful.

976
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: The Jets, Rogers is gonna I mean, the Judge is

977
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: going to get the max all the time, Bills are

978
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 4: going to get the max.

979
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: It will be interesting because are we on a lot

980
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 5: early in the season and not as much late, because

981
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 5: that tells you that they don't take.

982
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: As much of us. Sure, it means they're not sure.

983
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: Listen, they're gonna have the right to flex anything as

984
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: the season goes on. If we're good, we'll end up

985
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: with the max because we will get flexed in because

986
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 4: we do draw ratings for Crowns and primetime draw ratings period.

987
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a handful of teams that have an enormous

988
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: national following that rate no matter what, and we're among

989
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: those teams. Yes, yeah, so so that that will be

990
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: certainly something to follow. It is interesting as you get

991
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: up on a on a Monday or even yesterday evening

992
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: and you I'm sarting to look at like all the

993
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: draft grades, and most people had us very favorably, you know.

994
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Plus as we that area.

995
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: We were one of we had five players on Pro

996
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: Football Focuses Big board one Top one hundred big board.

997
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: We were one of a few teams I think there

998
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: were two teams with five and maybe one with six

999
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: that had on Dane Brugler's Top one hundred. Yeah, we

1000
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: got five. We need it picked till seventy four. So

1001
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: I mean tremendous value understanding the limitations of what we

1002
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: were dealing with, you know. And again these graades are

1003
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: all silly because you got to see what these people

1004
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: actually become in the NFL. But all we know right

1005
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: now is at the time who you could get and

1006
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: how you thought it was going to shake out.

1007
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think big picture, one of the things that

1008
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: was really strange over the weekend was just the NFL

1009
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: just I don't know what the thought process is at

1010
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: drafting quarterbacks. It was like there was that run on

1011
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: them and it's like, well, god, we all have to

1012
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: get one, and so we got a draft one like

1013
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford. He's an Ohio kid. He played at st

1014
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: X down in Cincinnati. There's no scenario where that kid's

1015
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: NFL player just isn't And he wasn't on anybody's I mean,

1016
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: I want to say, like he wasn't one of PFF's

1017
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: top two hundred. He wasn't. He was He was not

1018
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: even the top twenty quarterback for Dane top twenty, and

1019
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: he got drafted. And then Bennett in the fourth round

1020
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: with the rams like you have actual needs, man, yeah,

1021
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: and you're taking like a And the reason I bring

1022
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: up those two guys is like the ceiling's not there,

1023
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: like they kind of they're fully formed from an athletic

1024
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: from a athletic profile standpoint, there's not You're not molding

1025
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of clay. It's already set.

1026
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: And I'd even argue that, you know, getting a guy

1027
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: like DTR. If if you're not a proficient pocket passer

1028
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: or you're not gonna you're never gonna be an elite

1029
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: pocket passer.

1030
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to move.

1031
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Tyler Huntley went to the Pro Bowl, and

1032
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: it's because even though he doesn't throw it all that well,

1033
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: he can still run and make plays in their offense.

1034
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: And I think with DTR and what we're gonna want

1035
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: to do here, you know, obviously with the Shawn and

1036
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: then Dobbs as the backup, and you know Kellen Mon's

1037
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: obviously going to try to compete here on his second

1038
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 4: NFL team already is a former third round pick. I

1039
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: like that type of a swing in the fifth round

1040
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: a lot more than I like trying to find the

1041
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: next Tom Brady.

1042
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: I just don't.

1043
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't know that you find tom Brady's anymore. I

1044
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: don't know the thing is anymore.

1045
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Those guys aren't the next Tom Brady's, are the next

1046
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy's.

1047
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 3: Listen signed them up.

1048
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: But I understand. But that's my point, Like case Keenum, like,

1049
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: that's the ceiling is you're one of those like you're

1050
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: you're drafting if you're the Rams and you have a

1051
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: fourth round pick, and it's the first time you pick.

1052
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: It's got to be on someone, don't you have to

1053
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: try to hit the lottery a little bit? Yeah, instead

1054
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: of think so a fully formed quarterback who's limited.

1055
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: I agree, and a lot of people the betting market

1056
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 4: on sets and Bennett wasn't where he was going to

1057
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: go is if he was going.

1058
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: To give and there was nobody Clifford getting drafted.

1059
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: Nobody, and then he goes in the fourth round. Let

1060
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: me ask you.

1061
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 4: There were two major debates that I ended up in

1062
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: on our draft coverage on Friday night. So I want

1063
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: to get your take on the first which and this

1064
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: way I can't lead you at all. What did you

1065
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: think was the worst pick of the first round?

1066
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: Bjeon Robinson Atlanta?

1067
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so we're an agreement. Yeah, insane And

1068
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: I said.

1069
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 2: I think it was too just that's not the team

1070
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: to pick him.

1071
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: That's not a serious They're you're not serious? No, yeah,

1072
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: I said, I love the Falcons, but they're not serious.

1073
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: Number three in rushing in the league last year without

1074
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: a running quarterback. They had just drafted a guy in

1075
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: the fifth round, Tyler Ljeer, who ran for over a

1076
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: thousand yards and five yards of carry, Like, how how

1077
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: much where do you go? Five yards of carry? Can

1078
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: you six yards of carry?

1079
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Barry Sanders in order for it to make any sense?

1080
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: And even then you're not winning anything exactly.

1081
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: That was my whole point.

1082
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, maybe they're going to make

1083
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: it into the playoffs, and I said, so what, they're

1084
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: not any picking Bjon Robinson puts them no closer, not

1085
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: even a quarter of a percent, closer to winning a

1086
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: Super Bowl than taking me.

1087
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, I can at least sling the pill. That's right, eh.

1088
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: That So that was okay. That was one and then

1089
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: and it was kind of a piggyback off of that.

1090
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: And you're a Buckeye guy. You go back to and

1091
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: I wonder if you true hereim Jerry Jones, And maybe

1092
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 4: Jerry's not the right guy, but the majority of the league,

1093
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 4: if you were confronted with the pick. In twenty fifteen,

1094
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: because he referenced this draft earlier, they took Ezekiel Elliott

1095
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: I believe third right.

1096
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: Top five.

1097
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't remember exactly, but but before he went

1098
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 6: before Ramsey, either before Ramsey or before Bosa, he went

1099
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 6: after Bosa and then before Ramsey.

1100
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be like Ramsey was maybe fourth or fifth.

1101
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: I think that's right.

1102
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you think one hundred times out of one hundred,

1103
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: if they had to do it over again, they would

1104
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: have taken Jalen Ramsey.

1105
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: So on that one, I will side with them because

1106
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: I think that the I think the Zeke I think

1107
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: Zeke to that Cowboys team ended up being. Now they

1108
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: didn't know it at the time because they didn't know

1109
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: what they had in Dak Prescott, but they were drafting

1110
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: him to play with Tony Romo, and I think they

1111
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: thought that that would unlock everything for them, Like if

1112
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: they put an a list back with him. Now, in retrospect,

1113
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: you know you sold a lot of to do it

1114
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: over again. If you do it over again knowing what

1115
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: you do and knowing that Dak is going to develop

1116
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: that he is, then of course you would take Ramsey.

1117
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: But I think in the moment what their intent was

1118
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: very similar to And obviously you can't have any beef

1119
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: with what Philly did, but I was a proponent of

1120
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: Philly taking Bijon Robinson at ten because to me, that

1121
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: would have set them to a whole another level. Now

1122
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: what they did is they outsmarted everybody and then they

1123
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: get Swift for nothing, a bag of balls, and they could.

1124
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: Have I know.

1125
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, you put now of

1126
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: a sudden they get that for a year anyway or

1127
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: something similar to Beijon for one point eight million for nothing.

1128
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: So that's the thing is. But yeah, I just think

1129
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: that you can find running backs. I just think it's

1130
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: just it's known. Whereas a sixty time Pro Bowl or

1131
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 4: three time first Seamile Pro corner, those don't grow on trees.

1132
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: And by the way, in Zeke's first three years, he

1133
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: let the league and rushing twice and they won nothing.

1134
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: They want nothing, nothing, they do with anything. They also

1135
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: drafted him with the intent to play with Romo, and

1136
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: Romo was done. He got hurt and then that was

1137
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: the end of it. It was Dak the Hoff will

1138
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: join us. Coming up next second hour, Cleveland Browns Daily

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00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,920
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Speaker 2: The Hoff joins us who by the way, Hoff and

1150
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: I chronicled this. I sent the video the image to

1151
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: you as well. We had lacrosse down at the Hall

1152
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: of Fame this weekend and as we're walking in middle

1153
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: boy beams he said, Dan, isn't that mister Hoff? And

1154
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: sure enough, Budd, he looked great on the side of

1155
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: the building.

1156
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 7: Mister Hoff, i'dn't even getting a mister in front of

1157
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 7: my name now, man, I don't feel like I deserved

1158
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 7: this as an off of the line. And that's pretty

1159
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 7: cool stuff though. But yeah, we got to go down.

1160
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 4: It looks a little different now, the head shaved, I

1161
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: don't have the beard. I'm pretty ripped. But uh, tell Beamsy,

1162
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: mister Hoff says, hello, I love it.

1163
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 7: I love it.

1164
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: It's just once a week.

1165
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: Where's be Orlando led better.

1166
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: Who else happened last week?

1167
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: This happened with I don't know, but be Orlando probably

1168
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 4: is pumped about the Bejon Robinson pick.

1169
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: He is jacked up about the Bejon pick.

1170
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: Actually he is, he is. They also got Harrison.

1171
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: They got Zach Harrison, didn't they They did?

1172
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they picked one spot after us, the pick number

1173
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: seventy five.

1174
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah. I did think it was interesting

1175
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: how both Detroit and Atlanta, like Arthur Smith, went out

1176
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: of his way to categorize it as not a running

1177
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: back but as a weapon.

1178
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: We don't do that.

1179
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: Fine, view Bijeon as a running back.

1180
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: We view him as a weapon, and that's fine.

1181
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 4: And look, Jamior Gibbs, Let then't he have like forty

1182
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: four catches and led Alabama in receptions and he's.

1183
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: Gonna be they to throw to at Bama?

1184
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: Right because Jamison Williams was in the league. Now he's

1185
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: not gonna be there for six games. So this is

1186
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: my question for the Lions. Right is, last year, DeAndre

1187
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: Swift averaged five and a half yards to carry. Deandrew

1188
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: Swift averaged over I think six point three yards a touch,

1189
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: which led all running backs in the league by a

1190
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: decent margin. Tony Pollard was second. You had Jamal Williams

1191
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: lead the league in rushing touchdowns in your offense a

1192
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: year ago. Williams is gone. You replaced him with David Montgomery,

1193
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: so you could add Swift and David Montgomery and Montgomery

1194
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 4: at like, you know, one point eight, and then they

1195
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: drafted a running us and now Swift's gone for a

1196
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five fourth round pick. Like, how much better

1197
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: are they expecting David Montgomery and Jamiir Gibbs to be

1198
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: than what they got last year from Jamal Williams and

1199
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift. I'll hang up and listen, and not to

1200
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: mention you used the twelfth overall pick. I think it

1201
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 4: was on him. And then at eighteen when you needed

1202
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: a corner too, and Christian Gonzalez is still on the

1203
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: boards they were going to take and he ends up

1204
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: going to New England, then you pass on him again.

1205
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken for an off ball linebacker whose.

1206
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: Last name is Campbell, Yeah, Jack Campbell, who's a really

1207
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: nice player in Iowa. He's a Shrine player. But you

1208
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: can't take running backs and off ball linebackers in the teams.

1209
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: They were so There were four picks out of the

1210
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 4: thirty one that were not quarterback, pass catcher, so wide receiver,

1211
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: tight end, edge rusher, interior pass rusher, or cornerback in

1212
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 4: the first round. Four of them, the Lions made two,

1213
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 4: the other was Bijon and then the Titans, which I

1214
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: said was not a serious pick at all. The Titans

1215
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: took a guard at eleven. I'm like that, they're not

1216
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: serious at eleven. At eleven it was a guard.

1217
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? You know? This speak this

1218
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: goes back to the conversation we're having about Atlanta and

1219
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: their operation, like there there is no more interest in

1220
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: the middle class of the NFL, or else they shouldn't be.

1221
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 2: And how do you define middle class? I define middle

1222
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: class as a team's a team that's going somewhere between

1223
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: seven wins and eleven, but is never a serious threat

1224
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: to win anything of consequence. That's the middle class that

1225
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: used to be something where there were teams that lived

1226
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: in that world. And we're never going to get out

1227
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: of it. You are you either, especially now in the AFC,

1228
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: if you don't have one of those guys. And you

1229
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 2: know what we did to make sure that we got

1230
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: one of those guys. If you don't have one of

1231
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: those guys, you have no chance, none forget it. Why

1232
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: show up?

1233
00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 4: So in my mind, Arthur Smith, who left Tennessee, is

1234
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 4: trying to rebuild Tennessee in Atlanta, and I would say, Arthur,

1235
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: Tennessee got to an AFC Championship game, impressive. At one

1236
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: point they were the one seed in the AFC and

1237
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: then I think lost in the very first round. They

1238
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 4: were never considered a serious Super Bowl contender, and I

1239
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: think they did it as well as they could. Derek Henry.

1240
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: If John Robinson ends up being as good as Dereck Henry,

1241
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: that's great, but chances are probably won't be because Derrick

1242
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 4: Henry is one of the best running backs we've seen

1243
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: in the last twenty years. They had Aj Brown, they

1244
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 4: were running it with a like and by the way,

1245
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 4: if Desmond Ritter can become Ryan Tannehill, I think that's

1246
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 4: probably considered a win.

1247
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: So you're topping out.

1248
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 4: Now, you're topping out trying to be a franchise. Thats

1249
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 4: best case scenario was to get stuck in a purgatory

1250
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 4: where they were too good to be bad and too

1251
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: bad to be good.

1252
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: Yep, they would have so that's what Hey, let's try

1253
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: that again.

1254
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: Where they much better off, And honestly, they already got

1255
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: their new stadium set up. They would have been much

1256
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: better off playing Malik Willis and trading Henry and dumping

1257
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: Hannah Hille and go oh in seventeen one, in sixteen,

1258
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: two and fifteen and getting your shot at Drake may

1259
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: or Caleb Williams at the top of next year's draft.

1260
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: That makes it way after a week one last year,

1261
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: they're going nowhere.

1262
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: They would have been better off at eleven instead of

1263
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: taking some offensive lineman, getting out of that pick, getting

1264
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: a one for next year, doing what you're saying, and

1265
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 4: then giving yourself two to one so you have a

1266
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: chance to make sure you get one of those quarterbacks. Now,

1267
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 4: they ended up with Levis in the second round, so

1268
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: that's like, at least that is an attempt to get

1269
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: their franchise guy.

1270
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: But I mean, what about poor will Levis.

1271
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: If Anthony Richardson, If if Houston goes two and then

1272
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 4: doesn't give up a quarterback ransom to go three and

1273
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: somebody else goes three and takes Richardson, Levis was going to.

1274
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: Go four to the Colts. Yeah, I think The Colts.

1275
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 4: With richardson perfect fits, a great pick, perfect fit?

1276
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: What so.

1277
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: Joe goes, Joe just text me, he goes, Hey, did

1278
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 5: you guys forget about me?

1279
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I believe I believe he might

1280
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: be ready. Now we introduced, we threw to you. There

1281
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: was a point.

1282
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: Wonderful baby.

1283
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.

1284
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: Now he was listening to us the entire time I was.

1285
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 7: I was responding and talking, and then all of a

1286
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 7: sudden I heard making an impression to me and I

1287
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 7: was really impressed and I enjoyed it. So I laid out.

1288
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 7: But then you guys just started talking. Like five minutes in.

1289
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 7: I probably touched the gifts and I was like, hey,

1290
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 7: you think forgot it's still here. And then he was

1291
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 7: like I couldn't hear you the whole time, and I

1292
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 7: was like, ah, now it's making sense.

1293
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't just going to I wasn't just trying to. Yeah.

1294
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: I would never just try to do the haw for fun,

1295
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: just trying to trying to make it, make it make sense.

1296
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like just asking, uh, making an observation of it,

1297
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: by the way, and because our audience hasn't heard it either,

1298
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: it was awesome to see your picture on the side

1299
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 2: of the hall Beamsy was thrilled. Is that mister Hoff? Yep,

1300
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: that's mister Hoff, buddy, So that it was awesome to

1301
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: see it down there. Man, I know that that day

1302
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: is going to get here really quick, but it was

1303
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: surreal even for me. I mean, I can't imagine for you,

1304
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: but even for me to just walk we walk into

1305
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: that place all the time. We had a lacrosse down there,

1306
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: and just to see your smile and mug on the side,

1307
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: but man, it was pretty cool.

1308
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was awesome. We went down there like a

1309
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 7: month ago and they kind of gave us to run

1310
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 7: down with some of the other Hall of famers and

1311
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 7: just to see that poster on the outside was pretty awesome.

1312
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 7: And do they have my lockers set up yet? Because

1313
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 7: that was one of the things that I had to

1314
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 7: do when I was there about six weeks ago, is

1315
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 7: bring like this huge rubber tote of a bunch of

1316
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 7: memorabilia for them that they were going to put together

1317
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 7: a locker. But I don't know if that was up yet.

1318
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: So that's it. The we didn't the boys got derailed

1319
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: by the shop, as can be the case, but the

1320
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: lockers the way that it's set up. In the traditional

1321
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: hall tour, the lockers are the last thing you see

1322
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: before you go into the shop. So I didn't go

1323
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: through there. There's like an exhibit with the lockers, and

1324
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,439
Speaker 2: then there's like Madden stuff set up, and then that's

1325
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: in that last room before you go and you exit

1326
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: through the shop. So that's that was kind of the

1327
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: last part of it, and so I didn't get a

1328
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: chance to see if that was set up or not.

1329
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: But that's that's really cool the way they did that.

1330
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's cool. And actually on Saturday, I flew from

1331
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 7: the draft coverage right to Salt Lake City and had

1332
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 7: a nine hour meeting with my sculptor and just sat

1333
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 7: there as he kind of worked on the Hall of

1334
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 7: Fame bus. And that was a really surreal moment, kind

1335
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 7: of starting to look at yourself. At the time it

1336
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 7: was clay, but soon to be bronze is going to

1337
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 7: be pretty wild.

1338
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 4: So you shared a little bit of that on your

1339
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: on your Instagram, and again, so I was noticing because

1340
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: in the background you had pictures that were different. Is

1341
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: it in my imitations describe the evolution of the hoff

1342
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 4: So you're going more the player, the player hof it

1343
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: looked like, so was that weird to sit there with

1344
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: your now the hot the chiseled half face looking at

1345
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: player half face going on to clay.

1346
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 7: It was a little interesting because they had like the

1347
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 7: full iteration from year one through year eleven. And then

1348
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 7: of course, since I've retired and lost a few pounds,

1349
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 7: I didn't realize how huge I was. Like in twenty ten,

1350
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 7: when I was at three thirty, I was.

1351
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 8: Like, dang, I knew I wanted to be fat Joe,

1352
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 8: but I'm not sure I want to be that fat Joe.

1353
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 8: Like the self goes, yeah, you just kind of carry

1354
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 8: most of your weight in your chin. Yeah, let's take

1355
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 8: a little clay on there.

1356
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if well, let's go ahead and sharpen

1357
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: that job a little bit for the hot baby.

1358
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 7: That's right. But it's pretty wild, I mean sitting there

1359
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 7: because it's so cool. The bust was like pretty rough

1360
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 7: when I got there, and then after nine hours, you

1361
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 7: can imagine it was starting to really take shape and

1362
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 7: take form and get to the point where it started

1363
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 7: being a little surreal and a little freaky, kind of

1364
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 7: almost looking at.

1365
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: Yourself, did you did you pick a were you able

1366
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: to pick the exact photograph you wanted or is it

1367
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of them kind of put together.

1368
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can kind of put it together whatever you want. Basically,

1369
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 7: they just want you to be happy with whatever it

1370
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 7: looks like in the end. You know, they just don't

1371
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 7: want the Christiano over and all the bus to show

1372
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 7: up when they unveil it. So yeah, we were kind

1373
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 7: of going through the pictures and I was like, yeah,

1374
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 7: I kind of like that hair there, and I like

1375
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: that like the beard because you know, I had a mustache,

1376
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 7: I had clean shaven, I had big six months of

1377
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 7: beard once and so I kind of kind of went

1378
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 7: for a blend. I would say maybe three hundred pounds bearded,

1379
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 7: but not crazy wilderness lots in the wilderness. Beard with hair, great.

1380
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: Bring it back. I love it.

1381
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 4: The locks to be immortalized. K. That's awesome. Well, let's

1382
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: talk for a second about what the Browns did. And

1383
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: obviously you know the offensive line very very well, and

1384
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: you know Dwan Jones. They don't make a lot of

1385
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: guys like that. And I remember you liked Mkai Beck

1386
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: then coming out a few years ago. He's even bigger

1387
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 4: than that, six ' eight three seventy five and the

1388
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: opportunity to come here and work with Bill Callahan Scott Peters.

1389
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be great for him, But you know,

1390
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: what do you kind of make of that pick? And

1391
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people think this is the first round

1392
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: talent fell for a variety of reasons, But that doesn't

1393
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 4: matter anymore now he's a Cleveland Brown.

1394
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.

1395
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 7: Absolutely. First of all, I got to say I enjoyed

1396
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 7: your breakdown of the Lions because I similarly blasted them

1397
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 7: and they're ridiculous decision making. While I was on hold well,

1398
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 7: you couldn't hear me, but the Dwan Jones pick got

1399
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 7: me really excited because you just don't find human beings

1400
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 7: that look like that, right, And to be able to

1401
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 7: get him in the fourth round is such a low risk,

1402
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 7: high reward pick because how many fourth round picks end

1403
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 7: up becoming starters anyway, I mean, it's kind of a

1404
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 7: crab shoot. Maybe ten percent, I don't know, it's not

1405
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 7: a lot percent of first round ers end up handing

1406
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 7: out to be a solid starter, and so once you

1407
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 7: slide down to the fourth round, you're really just hoping

1408
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 7: to get you know, a contributor at all. And if

1409
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 7: he ends up contributing as a start to tackle, I

1410
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 7: mean you're talking about that's one of the more difficult

1411
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 7: positions in football to find. Right now, it's almost easier

1412
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 7: to find a starting quarterback in teams with thet of

1413
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 7: great quarterback play that's come out of college in recent

1414
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 7: years versus where there's been bereft of quality offensive tackles

1415
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 7: coming out of college football and being able to develop

1416
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 7: into great NFL players. So a man of that size,

1417
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 7: I think the number one thing you got to teach

1418
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 7: him is can you get off the ball quickly into

1419
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 7: your first kick where you're in good balanced position with

1420
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 7: your shoulder square And if you can do that quickly

1421
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 7: where you're not behind the passers you're already, then you

1422
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 7: can win almost every rep. Because you're so big, you're

1423
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 7: so long, takes those guys so much time to get

1424
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 7: around you that as long as you're in position after

1425
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 7: that first kick like you're going to win almost every rep.

1426
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 7: And having patience. He reminds me of the guy like

1427
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 7: Blozel Adams who played a ton of years in the NFL,

1428
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 7: made a bunch of Pro Bowls, and I mean, all

1429
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 7: he learned how to do is get off the ball

1430
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: quickly with your first kick and then just get in

1431
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 7: the way, like that's basically all you have to do

1432
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 7: when you're that big. So for me, I'm really excited

1433
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 7: because Bill Callahan, Scotti Peters, those are the type of

1434
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 7: guys that you want to work with because they can

1435
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 7: teach you that. Like if he hasn't in his body

1436
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 7: to be able to learn how to get off the

1437
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 7: ball quickly with one kick, those two coaches are going

1438
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 7: to get it out of him. And so Cleveland's just

1439
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 7: such a great destination for him and it's such a

1440
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 7: steal for the Browns to get him in the fourth round.

1441
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 4: Well, he's going to get to see you do your

1442
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: one legged kick all around, Brian and show him how

1443
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 4: to do all of those things. But seriously, though, wait,

1444
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 4: the fact that he was a high school basketball player

1445
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: and we saw some of those highlights which were pretty incredible,

1446
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: does that make you more confident? Obviously he's got to

1447
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 4: have movement skills in is you know, the coordination and

1448
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 4: the feet to play hoops that it feels like he

1449
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 4: should be able to do that quick.

1450
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 7: Kick right for sure? Yeah, I mean I think watching

1451
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 7: his film he can move pretty well, like he's very

1452
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 7: rough technically obviously because he doesn't have a ton of experience,

1453
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 7: and obviously the coaching you to college and the experience

1454
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 7: of just getting the reps is not there like he'll

1455
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 7: have in the NFL. But if you go back, especially

1456
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 7: watch those basketball film, I mean, he's definitely the athlete

1457
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 7: to be able to understand and be able to get

1458
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 7: there and do what you need him to do. And

1459
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 7: for Scott Peters and Bill Kelley, and they got to

1460
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 7: be super excited, right, Oh yeah, I mean talk about

1461
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 7: talk about a pelt on the wall and a shining

1462
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 7: star in your resume when you're able to take a

1463
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 7: fourth round pick and potentially turn him into not only

1464
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 7: just a good starter, but a pro boy, because you

1465
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 7: get a man that's that big, that's consistent, like that's

1466
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 7: got Pro Bowl for a decade plus written all over it.

1467
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: Well, and that you hope that the carrot for him

1468
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: is that he's going to have to earn everything he

1469
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: gets in the league, huff because as you would articulate

1470
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: fourth round pick, that's it's tough to come from there

1471
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: and be something. He can have all the clay in

1472
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: the world, but he's going to have the given dam

1473
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: gotta have the want to, got have the dedication to

1474
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: the sport. And I would think by the fact that

1475
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: he's a fourth round or he's gonna have to he's

1476
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: have to earn everything he gets at this level.

1477
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the great thing about mid round picks

1478
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 7: is there's not like, oh, we've invested a first or

1479
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 7: second round and we have to play this guy or

1480
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 7: you know, he's going to have a leg up and

1481
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 7: kind of automatically given that spot where somebody has to

1482
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 7: beat him out to win. Now, he's truly going to

1483
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 7: have to fight to be able to get into the

1484
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 7: lineup somewhere. And I think a lot of times that

1485
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 7: brings the best out of players. Right, it's that competition

1486
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 7: that you quickly realize, hey, this guy either has it

1487
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 7: mentally and it's important to him and you know he's

1488
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 7: willing to die to get on that field, or like

1489
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 7: maybe the football isn't really his thing and he doesn't

1490
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 7: love it enough to be able to become great. And

1491
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 7: you see it pretty quickly, and as a fourth round pick,

1492
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 7: you don't have enough invested in him where you're going

1493
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 7: to just keep him around. And he knows it too,

1494
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 7: which I think that's good. Like sometimes it's kind of

1495
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 7: like to burn the bolt mentality that the Vikings had, right,

1496
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 7: we're gonna drop him off, burn the boats, either win

1497
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 7: or die. Like that's a pretty hefty, uh task in

1498
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 7: front of you, and you realize that the stakes are

1499
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 7: pretty high and that's where you are as a fourth

1500
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 7: round pick, and so hopefully that'll really motivate him to

1501
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: become the best version of himself.

1502
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 4: Hoff when you take you talk about, you know, Dewan Jones,

1503
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: he's the right tackle. We'll see if he becomes a

1504
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: right tackle or a left tackle going forward or I

1505
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: think they they plan to give him an opportunity to

1506
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: do both. But the Browns do have a great right

1507
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 4: tackle in Jack Conklin. They've got a left tackle in

1508
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 4: Jed Wills who was a tenth overall pick. Not yet,

1509
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: I would say, I think it's fair to say has

1510
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: not reached his potential or what the Browns maybe thought

1511
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 4: they were getting. It's announced today that they are picking

1512
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: up his fifty year option. They did it very very late.

1513
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 4: And do you think that was a message there? And

1514
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 4: what is it going to take for Jed Wills to

1515
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 4: be the player that you know, I know that, you

1516
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 4: know how immensely talented he is. What's it going to

1517
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 4: take for him to do that? And do you think

1518
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 4: this is like, Look, you're getting to that fourthy here,

1519
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: you want to get paid, you got to start to

1520
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 4: do it.

1521
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1522
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 7: I think that was them sending a little bit of

1523
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 7: a message and letting him know that, Hey, we know

1524
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 7: you have the ability to be an all pro, We've

1525
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 7: seen it, but it's about your consistency and your consistency

1526
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 7: of focus. That's how you become a great player. And

1527
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 7: so I think that was rattling the cage a little bit. Obviously,

1528
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 7: it's really hard to find starting tackles, and it's extremely

1529
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 7: hard to find starting left tackles and guys that have

1530
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 7: the ability of Jed Wills and the stretches of film

1531
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 7: in the NFL that Jed has, So it makes all

1532
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 7: the sense in the world to pick up his fifth

1533
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 7: round option. I mean, I never had any questions at that,

1534
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 7: because I mean, it's kind of a no brainer. However,

1535
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 7: I think they also realized that, hey, this guy hasn't

1536
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 7: even scratched the surface, and if he's able to bring

1537
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 7: the level of focus that a guy like Joel has

1538
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 7: who plays right next to him. I mean, he's a

1539
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 7: pro bowler all day, and so they want to see

1540
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 7: that come out of him, right, I mean, how do

1541
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 7: you ever get more motivated than potentially going into your

1542
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 7: free agent year with the ability to become one of

1543
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 7: the highest paid offensive tackles in the NFL. And so

1544
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 7: hopefully this will be that year that it clicks, he

1545
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 7: figures it out, and he never looks back.

1546
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: I forget you out of here on this one. This

1547
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: is the first time that we've had you on since

1548
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,440
Speaker 2: you wait, went on one of the great adventures in mankind?

1549
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: Can you get us a little bit on the hike,

1550
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: on the process and what you saw at the top.

1551
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It was incredible. We hiked inca trail

1552
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 7: four days to get to Machu Pichi. Me and my

1553
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 7: wife basically had the whole trail to ourselves because Peru

1554
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 7: had a bunch of riots in their country almost overthrew

1555
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 7: the government, and we were there a couple months after,

1556
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 7: and so a lot of people had canceled their trips

1557
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: and I think we saw like four other hikers during

1558
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 7: our trip, which was just a phenomenal to have that

1559
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 7: whole incredible twenty eight miles stretch of the trail basically

1560
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 7: to ourselves. But I think it's probably the most beautiful

1561
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 7: place I've ever been, just because of the diversity that

1562
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 7: you see. From starting in a desert and as you

1563
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 7: hike you're looking at cactus. All of a sudden you're

1564
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 7: going up and pretty soon you're in jungle, and there's

1565
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 7: waterfalls like coming right out of the side of the

1566
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 7: mountain over the river under the bridge that you walk over,

1567
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 7: and then pretty soon you're in the cloud for us.

1568
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 7: And then you get up to thirteen thousand feet and

1569
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 7: you're looking down on the clouds. And then as you

1570
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 7: hike back down the other side of the mountain, you

1571
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 7: turn the corner and all of a sudden, there's boom,

1572
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 7: five hundred year old right there, just staring in the face,

1573
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 7: and you get to kind of wander around and explore.

1574
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 7: There's hummingbirds flying all over the place, and different flora

1575
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 7: and fauna and orchids. I mean, it's just fantastic the

1576
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 7: amount of incredible beautiful nature that you see. And then

1577
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 7: it always brings you back when you're with your guide

1578
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 7: and you're talking to him that like you're walking legitimately

1579
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 7: in the footsteps palmstone of Inca Kings from five hundred

1580
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 7: years ago that built this whole system of trails by hand,

1581
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 7: like with no tools at all, and it was just

1582
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,520
Speaker 7: such a special four days. I would highly recommend anybody

1583
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 7: that has the ability to hike himach you Peach, you

1584
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 7: don't take the bus in the train, Spend the energy,

1585
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 7: spend the effort, because you will not regret it. The

1586
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 7: journey truly is the best part of that entire adventure.

1587
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: That's awesome, so great, Thanks for your time, buddy Cool.

1588
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys having me on. We'll talk you later.

1589
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: Of course, pure that the idea of you and I

1590
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: having a conversation as and then forgetting that the Hoff

1591
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 2: was there, like introducing the Hoff in his mind, forgetting

1592
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: I no know in his mind though from his perspective,

1593
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: introducing he answers the question the softball fund from this

1594
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: weekend down at the Hall of Fame. And then when

1595
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: he's done answering that, you just it's in the middle

1596
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: of that answer, you you're interrupting him and he's like,

1597
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 2: what the heck man.

1598
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,480
Speaker 3: And imitating him, imitating him, talking to Beamsy.

1599
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Talking to Beams a little more chiseled, and then and

1600
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: then straight up to a lion's draft breakdown. No need

1601
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: to bring back the hof who needs them? Who needs him?

1602
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: Amazing, guys, what's the deal?

1603
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: What is the deal here?

1604
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: Man?

1605
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: Eight minutes later, unbelievable?

1606
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for us, as happened some manytimes. We don't even

1607
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 4: acknowledge it. Like we're not like, hey, there's technical difficulties.

1608
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: We can we can't hear normal. We're just like, yeahs

1609
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: it goes. Where where's Orlando?

1610
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:27,919
Speaker 2: Orlandos?

1611
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: The mix? The way? He still has never texted me back.

1612
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: I'm sure you might have to.

1613
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 5: Send flowers something. Yeah, I don't know, good fruit baskets.

1614
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 3: Tell him to enjoy beij.

1615
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: On, What do you got going on with you? You

1616
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 2: got some allergies?

1617
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 3: Dat red?

1618
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: I can see they're beat red.

1619
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: What happened? Dude?

1620
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: It's just being in this, I wrote him. I was like,

1621
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 4: I wonder if a cat lived here, because this is

1622
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: how I feel from a cat.

1623
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: I mean, but I have the same issues with cats,

1624
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 5: like I'm a mess when to come the cab, I'm

1625
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 5: a mess right now.

1626
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: But I can tell you this isn't a This isn't

1627
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 2: a bootsy faking illness situation. I can tell this physical

1628
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: proof in the eyes.

1629
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 3: It's insane. I can't really.

1630
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,959
Speaker 4: It's like it's like Dick Vitel one of my favorite

1631
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 4: favorite quotes when he was talking about uh I think

1632
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 4: it was Shack and he steals and he goes coast

1633
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: to coast.

1634
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: He's like, that's a seven footer. Unbelievable.

1635
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 4: He goes, that guy's gonna be I can see that

1636
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,480
Speaker 4: guy's gonna be a superstar.

1637
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 3: And I'm blinded. One eye.

1638
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 5: Baby reached out to Joe. I'm like, hey man, sorry again,

1639
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 5: He goes Gibbs. I have laughed the entire time that

1640
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 5: I was not on the air, but yet I think

1641
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 5: I was on the air.

1642
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: It's amazing. I laughed for eight minutes. It's amazing. We're

1643
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: just still laughing.

1644
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: Oh boy. All right. Coming up next, we'll take a

1645
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 2: look at what next year's draft pertains and uh Ken.

1646
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: You get a little bit of a big picture on

1647
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: where we are from a roster standpoint. That is coming

1648
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: up next. Tost to Clean Browns Daily on fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1649
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,400
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1658
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: of Rogers and Jets gears slinging it to Garrett Wilson?

1659
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 7: Did?

1660
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: Oh? Baby? I sure did. Yeah.

1661
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: Don't you go to Garrett Wilson on some team or something.

1662
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of his fifty fantasy teams. This is gonna

1663
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: be fun.

1664
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame they have those uniforms. That's the

1665
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: only negative. They sell the nameath Greens in the Hall

1666
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: of faragu back. God, it's gorgeous. It's a great jersey.

1667
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 2: It's so great, uh for us. They sell Metcalf. In

1668
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: terms of the old school ones, they sell Metcalf, Jim

1669
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: Brown and Kozar are the three like Mitchell and Ness ones.

1670
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: You can get that calf.

1671
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that calf looked good though. The two to one

1672
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: looked good. Yeah, totally what Yeah, A lot of a

1673
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: lot of sixteen's in red that was down there.

1674
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, are pretty good.

1675
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: They had a Ladanian, Tomlinson, Mitchell and Ness light blue

1676
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: that was pretty slick.

1677
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: Oh, the powder blue.

1678
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 4: They just dropped a Joe, a ninety nine Joe in

1679
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 4: a like a week ago in Madden.

1680
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: And he is did they really?

1681
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm rocking the ninety four even though he

1682
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 4: never wore those. I'm rocking the ninety fours niners right

1683
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 4: now and just taking people in the woodshed.

1684
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't wear those. That's right.

1685
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 3: That was the.

1686
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: Boy. Yeah, Yeah, that.

1687
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: Was your boy who did the greatest forty nine er

1688
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: quarterback of all time.

1689
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's right boy right there.

1690
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: His family doesn't even believe that. I don't know. He's

1691
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 3: got a gold jacket and a super Bowl right.

1692
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 4: That was like when when we were when I believe

1693
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: that puts him in when Bell You'll love this. When

1694
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: we were arguing on the when Times and I were

1695
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 4: having fun arguing on the Draft show, Yeah, and I

1696
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 4: was like, when's the last time a team with a

1697
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 4: with a star superstar running back won the super boy said,

1698
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's probably since Marshawn with the Seahawks, which

1699
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 4: is a long time ago.

1700
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even that Seahawks team, just to interject, it

1701
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: was built on the defense, yes, yeah, but he was

1702
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: offense was complimentary to even in terms of where the

1703
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: running back was the whole operation and everything was built

1704
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: off the run game. Yeah, I mean you got to

1705
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: go back to like Emmitt Smith.

1706
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: I mean it's been a while, it's been a while,

1707
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 4: but I would say, I'll take Marshaan Lychen. He threw

1708
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 4: out and he's like, well, what about Leonard Fournette with

1709
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: the Bucks, he was the main reason they won. I

1710
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: go Leonard Fournette's fan. He would't even be a top

1711
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 4: twenty reason they in that Super Bowl over the Chiefs.

1712
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: I would probably start with the pressure they got up

1713
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: front is probably where well start.

1714
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 4: And then they have Tom Brady, then Brady helps, yeah

1715
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1716
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: Evans is pretty good. No, it is now that we

1717
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: say that, I'm trying to think of the last time

1718
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: where the whole operation was lean in the identity of

1719
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,839
Speaker 2: the team was the run game. Because you're right, Marshawn

1720
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: is the one where the best offensive player was. But

1721
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: they also had Harvin who was really good for them

1722
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: in the return game and out of the slot for sure.

1723
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 4: I just meant the last time a team won a

1724
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 4: Super Bowl where they were paying a running back who

1725
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,839
Speaker 4: was like a legit dude.

1726
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're right. I was just trying to think

1727
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: of is the last time that there was oh, Terrell Davis.

1728
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: That's probably been the one where the identity of the

1729
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 2: team was the run.

1730
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 4: That's and they still I mean John Elway, but that's

1731
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: like when I was in college. It's twenty five years ago.

1732
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 3: Coach, Yeah, right, for sure, for sure. Yeah, that's hey,

1733
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 3: let's draft them number eight overall.

1734
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a problem.

1735
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 5: Is mister ed was dead and two hours later, Zigura

1736
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 5: and Tivas were still taking turns beating on him.

1737
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: Now are you saying it that had reached that it

1738
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 2: had been done and it makes.

1739
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 4: The conclusion and it was tell you you're on defense.

1740
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: You guys, you're doing four hours, so five that night,

1741
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: five five that night, So you're by the time you're

1742
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: to the end of that, you're a little cross eyed.

1743
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 5: Anyway, Yes, yeah, and Saturday was not so bad four hours.

1744
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: There was plenty to talk about.

1745
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been it would have been a tie,

1746
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: perfect like loaded three, a great three, but but like

1747
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: Grete three, it was a straight We had picks in

1748
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 4: round four, calling in or in the fourth in the

1749
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: fourth hour maybe like one. Yeah the quarterback, yeah, dta,

1750
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 4: he was good. What I'm saying, Like the first three

1751
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 4: hours were totally loaded. That last hour we did, we

1752
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,879
Speaker 4: were we were.

1753
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 5: Started to tail off on the back end. Yeah, yeah,

1754
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 5: the back the back couple of minutes. The first like

1755
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 5: the first like twenty five thirty minutes was a little slow,

1756
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 5: and so it was the last thirty minutes.

1757
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna have it. Yeah, It's a lot of that happened.

1758
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we were at the point where we were playing.

1759
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 4: In an interview Mo Pedman did with Amari Cooper that

1760
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 4: talked about a Mari's talking about being on Safari and

1761
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 4: you know with Lions, and and Ken made a funny

1762
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 4: jokes in then you know he doesn't go on Safaris.

1763
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 4: And I came back to me and I said, I'm

1764
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 4: sure I'm a Lion, So I can they be like

1765
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: all right, like let's go, and there are people who

1766
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 4: are listening and like that was their favorite part of

1767
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 4: the entire draft coverage was me without saying it implicitly

1768
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 4: but implying that perhaps a lion might find ken Karen

1769
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 4: to be.

1770
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: A tasty meal.

1771
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: Good good.

1772
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 3: Indeed, the great Mopet.

1773
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 5: Harman Moe was a Grand Marshal and at some parade

1774
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 5: yesterday orange.

1775
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 3: His orange dusty road shades is epic.

1776
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: The funny thing is somebody said that, and I thought

1777
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 4: it was at first a parody, because like a lot

1778
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 4: of times, people send carbon, they send mo Pedman stuff

1779
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 4: and they'll be like, oh man, I saw you, here

1780
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 4: is this you? And the first one I looked at

1781
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: him like, there's no way that's him.

1782
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 3: Oh it was, and it was. It was great.

1783
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: Sure enough. Next year we will have eight total picks.

1784
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: We will start again in the second round, one of

1785
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: the third, two, fifth to six, two sevens. As you

1786
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: look ahead to next season, go ahead, sir.

1787
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 4: One thing we haven't talked about is like we should

1788
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: do it after the break. It feels to me, I'm

1789
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: going to leave you with this thought. You ponder it,

1790
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: we'll discuss it. Yeah, yeah, about big gts. It feels

1791
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: to me that the league was like, yeah, the AFC

1792
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 4: is two loaded, so we're all going to collude and

1793
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: somehow allow the Eagles to be the superpower of the NFC. Yeah,

1794
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 4: we're just all going to aid and a bet them

1795
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 4: in that cause to the detriment of everything else.

1796
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 3: Your thoughts when we return.

1797
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: When we return, you're listening to Cleveland Rounds Daily on

1798
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1799
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet coming

1800
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty esp in Cleveland.

1801
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the Browns Draft Review show tonight

1802
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: seven to eight, eight fifty esp and Cleveland All Along

1803
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 2: University hostitle to Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Glenn Cook will

1804
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: join Ken, Carmen and Z tonight for that. You have

1805
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: that to look forward to, which is very very nice.

1806
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 2: The question you pondered was did the rest of the

1807
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: league just kind of all get in together and help Philly?

1808
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: Is that so that there's one super team?

1809
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter gets there to nine, they get Nolan Smith

1810
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 4: at thirty, and they pick up DeAndre Swift for a

1811
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: fourth and twenty twenty five.

1812
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: Well, even Keighley Ringo fell to them. Who's Marvin herd

1813
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: ate him up in the in the semifinal, But he

1814
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: was a guy who'd be at the start of this year,

1815
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: you'd have said had a chance to go in the

1816
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: first round. I mean, he was a five star kid.

1817
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 2: He was a can't miss prospect. So yeah, they they

1818
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: even landed him too. Yeah, and then and then Swift

1819
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: was just that one hurt man. I don't understand. Yeah,

1820
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: how if you're Detroit. If you're Detroit, like, let's just

1821
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: go back to Detroit for a minute and go over there.

1822
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Three days we went over everything that they did. You

1823
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 2: could argue, based on the trade of Aaron Rodgers out

1824
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: of that division that they were going into this last

1825
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: week the most complete team in the NFC North. I

1826
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: think you could make that statement that they were that.

1827
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: Not only were they the most complete, but they were

1828
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: headed in the right direction in every way. They kind

1829
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 2: of had everything that you wanted. They checked every box.

1830
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: And then they have the gambling stuff that they get

1831
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: into last week. Couple of guys gone and then eventually

1832
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: cut and then Jamison Williams is out six games. Okay,

1833
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good sized blow on that. And then

1834
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: you go into the draft and you go running back

1835
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: off ball linebacker in the first round, and then you

1836
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: trade Swift, which I don't Maybe you don't like him,

1837
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: maybe you think he sawft Who the hell knows, But

1838
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: if you're going to trade him, why are you trading

1839
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: him in the NFC? Why would you make a team

1840
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,839
Speaker 2: conference better when you're trying to be a contender.

1841
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 4: And I know there was interests from other two teams,

1842
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 4: of course, yeah, including teams we really like, and it didn't.

1843
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 4: It didn't come to be, which is strange. It's a

1844
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 4: wild scenario and a wild outcome. To me, I would

1845
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: have certainly. I was like feeling, like you know in

1846
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 4: the Charlie Murphy True Hollywood Stories. I was Rick James, like,

1847
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 4: come to come to me, DeAndre Swift.

1848
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: You were writing notes and putting him up on the wink.

1849
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: I was.

1850
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:30,480
Speaker 5: I was, I was walking another way to make picks,

1851
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 5: like sticky notes.

1852
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 4: Like giant pieces written like this, and it's I think

1853
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 4: it's a bring DeAndre home. Well remember when of Bob

1854
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 4: Quinn on our staff drafted him in Detroit, So oh

1855
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 4: that's right, Yeah, there is.

1856
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 3: A connection there.

1857
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought he would have been a nice

1858
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: little piece in our offense, and obviously the Eagles felt

1859
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 4: the same. And you know the idea of them trotting

1860
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 4: him out there. He hasn't played all that much. But

1861
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 4: when he does, he's ridiculously effective. He can run, he

1862
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 4: can catch it, he can score. He's got even he

1863
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 4: wasn't without getting goal line work. He's scored in more

1864
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: than half the games he's played in the NFL because

1865
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: he's a home run hitter. And you think about Hurts

1866
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 4: and him in the same backfield with Davante and aj

1867
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: Brown running around doing crazy things, and it just and

1868
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 4: Dallas Goddard. It feels scary not to mention their defensive line,

1869
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 4: which is now seven deep of legit starters on any

1870
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 4: team in the NFL.

1871
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: It's terrifying. It really is, like when you look at

1872
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: the deep too deep on the D line, it's not

1873
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: not particularly fair.

1874
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 4: And people forget about Josh Sweat. Yeah, I've heard people go,

1875
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 4: who's that? He had eleven sacks last year, was a

1876
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 4: pro bowler in twenty twenty one, but people don't even

1877
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 4: talk about him. Sets been so good, and Brandon Graham's

1878
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 4: been there forever in Fletcher Cox and now big Jordan

1879
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: Davis is going to get the takeover, and oh they

1880
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 4: got Jalen Carter too, and oh they got Nolan Smith.

1881
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 3: Now it's like, what are we doing?

1882
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was absolutely crazy what happened over

1883
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: the weekend on that side of things, Anything else from

1884
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: the NFL that you want to touch on that happened

1885
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: over the weekend.

1886
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 5: Can we talk about the number of teams within divisions

1887
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 5: trading with one another like we traded with the Ravens.

1888
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 5: Dolphins and Patriots were trading with each other like or

1889
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 5: Dolphins Jets or no, it's Patriots Jets. I think it

1890
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 5: was crazy the number of teams trading with each other.

1891
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: I think my theory on it is it kind of

1892
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: dovetails off the Nobody wants to be middle class anymore.

1893
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: Winning the division really doesn't mean anything. Everybody just wants

1894
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl. And if you can get closer,

1895
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: whatever the roadmap for that is, I think it doesn't matter.

1896
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean the in terms of inside an organization and

1897
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and all of that, the surest way,

1898
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 2: the straightest path to make the postseasons to win your division.

1899
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: But in terms of the big picture building that's being

1900
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 2: done by these teams, it's with an eye on winning

1901
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 2: a Lombardi and they're not thinking about trying to hold

1902
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: off a team in their division. They're thinking about how

1903
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 2: can we beat Kansas City, how can we beat Buffalo?

1904
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: That's my theory on it.

1905
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 4: I mean with us, you're talking about we traded a

1906
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 4: seventh round pick for a six and next year three

1907
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 4: and that's not a big to me. The big deal

1908
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 4: is like sending t. J. Hockinson to the Vikings. That

1909
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 4: is something that's beyond my capabilities or my capacity to understand.

1910
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 4: But they drafted a tight end in the second round.

1911
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 4: I think it was in the old days.

1912
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 3: You never do it.

1913
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: You'd never do that. You never trade with Baltimore a

1914
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 2: six verse. You just would never do it. So Gibbe,

1915
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: where are you rooting for lebron No, you're rooting for

1916
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 2: Stinks Curry and Draymond.

1917
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't no, I'm not.

1918
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 5: No.

1919
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: You have to have you have to help. You have

1920
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 3: to pick a sid.

1921
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 2: Why that's crazy, that's crazy? Why amazing? Why on brand?

1922
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 2: But amazing? I don't even know if you believe it.

1923
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure you can say that without smiling.

1924
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: I don't think so. The NBA, how about what a dream?

1925
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: They get Lakers Warriors in the second round.

1926
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: We just round one.

1927
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna get that. Now.

1928
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 3: The problem is getting started. We got like months to goo.

1929
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: If you think about it, like, that's about as good

1930
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: as it could get. The only thing better for them

1931
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: is if it would have been a Western Conference final.

1932
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: But those games, if you look at the tip times,

1933
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: they start tomorrow, it's ten o'clock. Every tip is ten

1934
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: o'clock every year. The ESPN tips are nine and then

1935
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: they're eight thirty on Saturday. First four games a second round.

1936
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 3: So what are they hoping?

1937
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 4: What do you think NBA is hoping for Celtics to

1938
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 4: come out of the Celtics sixers to come out of

1939
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 4: the East.

1940
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Speaker 3: But only one of them can only one of them?

1941
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Speaker 2: It's all hurt and I don't probably Celtics. I mean

1942
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Speaker 2: I ideally it would be Celtics. Lakers would be the

1943
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: home run Warriors. Yeah, because you have generational Lakers Celtics,

1944
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: You've got the Meeting, you play all that stuff, and

1945
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: you have lebron So and you have those markets. So

1946
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: I think that's probably their dream. So honestly, like if

1947
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: somehow the Knicks would be great for them. If the

1948
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Knicks came out, they're not gonna. I think the heat

1949
01:28:59,240 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: will take care of them.

1950
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Speaker 4: But no is hitm me buckets. Okay, they won yesterday.

1951
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Speaker 4: I know, but he hurt his ankle at the end,

1952
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: I look pretty bad.

1953
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: He's a warrior that kit will play your worst case.

1954
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Speaker 5: It would be very nick like to look amazing against

1955
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 5: us and then totally poop the bed in round two. Yeah,

1956
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 5: against the team they should be.

1957
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're so mad at the Calves.

1958
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Speaker 3: It was a great season. Yeah, it was can't go

1959
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 3: You can't go down the way you did.

1960
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Speaker 2: I think the hard thing is too is like, and

1961
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Speaker 2: I won't This is out of my depth a little

1962
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: bit in terms of roster manage. But like Kevin Love

1963
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 2: is playing meaningful visit.

1964
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Speaker 3: Well that was a miss.

1965
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Speaker 2: You just gave him away, Like he's playing meaningful minutes

1966
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Speaker 2: from Miami.

1967
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Speaker 3: That feels like you could have been useful. I just

1968
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 3: next it off.

1969
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Speaker 4: I go, it must have been a conspiracy to keep

1970
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 4: us from pure joy, but we foiled them in the end,

1971
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 4: he goes unbelievable.

1972
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 3: I had a good laugh. I was like, why are

1973
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 3: they not asking anything? It's been five minutes.

1974
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Look, you know, I just ignoring the hawk.

1975
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: You may be on the side of a build canting hoff,

1976
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 4: but we're going to humble.

1977
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Speaker 2: This is ours show. So much more to come to

1978
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1981
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Speaker 2: So next we got the schedule. That's our next big event.

1982
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Speaker 2: We got coming up ten.

1983
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Speaker 3: Days with schedule release.

1984
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Speaker 2: Schedule release, that's the next day.

1985
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Speaker 3: Last big Phase two today, Phase two started today.

1986
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Speaker 2: We're obviously you can sling the Jets. Are Jets are

1987
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 2: slinging it around?

1988
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Phase two face a little bit of you can

1989
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 4: sling that sling it around a little bit. By the way,

1990
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 4: here's an unbelievable stat at least as far as I'm concerned.

1991
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Speaker 4: So the Rams ended up drafting fourteen people this year

1992
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 4: in the draft. They kept just acquiring Day three picks

1993
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 4: and then drafting people. They've signed twenty four undrafted free agents,

1994
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,520
Speaker 4: so thirty eight of their ninety.

1995
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Speaker 3: Our rookies, which is yes, unreal.

1996
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Speaker 2: Ship Stafford out, man, ship him out, not to the AFC,

1997
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 2: but ship him out man, like there's no reason.

1998
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: Agreed, there's no reason to go to just start.

1999
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Speaker 5: Playing for the quarterback class for next year.

2000
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Speaker 2: Yeah, get locked in, man, No one's gonna go to

2001
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: your games. Anyway, buddy, it's not happening all right. It

2002
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: was fun, good reaction, lots to get to. We got

2003
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: a lot of audio to play for you this week

2004
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: as well a lot of exclusive interviews you have that

2005
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: took forward to, which is very very nice. The next

2006
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 2: level is you tomorrow at you? Well, maybe we'll see.

2007
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

2008
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Speaker 2: If Z makes it to tomorrow, I think i'll see you.

2009
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 2: I mean does he only has one working eye right now?

2010
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Speaker 3: Man, he'll be fine.

2011
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Speaker 4: It's very curious as to why you were impersonating me,

2012
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 4: but I laid out because it was glorious.

2013
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Speaker 2: The great off amazing. It's an ald timer that we

2014
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Speaker 2: would ignore the Hoff. The next level's coming up next.

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