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Speaker 2: it's the honorable Kiki is here eight Kiki your honor fu.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get in the courtroom.

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Speaker 4: It says KIKEI am I wrong for telling the other

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Speaker 4: mom at my kids' school that she is raising a

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Speaker 4: screen zombie. I have a ten year old daughter. Her

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Speaker 4: name is Lily. She's active, artistic and very social. She

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Speaker 4: used to be friends with another girl in her great

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Speaker 4: name Mia. Now MIA's mom, Jessica and I were casual

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Speaker 4: friends because our daughters, you know, hung out together.

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Speaker 3: But lately it's been very tense here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Every time Lily would go over to MIA's house, all

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Speaker 4: Mia wanted to do was sit on her iPad for hours.

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Speaker 4: No conversation, no playing, no creativity, just roadblocks and TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Lily would come home bored and frustrated. I talked to

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Speaker 4: Jessica about it once, casually, and she brushed it off,

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Speaker 4: saying that this is just what kids do now, so

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Speaker 4: Lily stopped wanting to hang out with Mia.

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Speaker 3: I didn't make it a big deal, you know, kids

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Speaker 3: grow apart.

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Speaker 4: But Jessica approached me at the school pickup last week

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Speaker 4: and asks why was Lily ghosting Mia. I tried to

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Speaker 4: be polite and say that their interests have changed, but

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Speaker 4: she pushed, so I finally said, look, girl, your daughter

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Speaker 4: is always on screens. Lily wants to actually do things

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Speaker 4: when she hangs out. She's not into just sitting around

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Speaker 4: being a screen zombie. I even brought up how she's

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Speaker 4: allowing Miss Rachel to raise her youngest child. My kids

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Speaker 4: are limited to thirty minutes of screen time a day,

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Speaker 4: so that is what Lily is used to.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Miss Jessica freaked out on me and said I was

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Speaker 4: insulting her parenting. She said I was shaming her and

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Speaker 4: her daughter and creating drama. She told a few other

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Speaker 4: moms that I'm judgmental and toxic, and they've since removed

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Speaker 4: me from the mom group chat. But I just feel

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Speaker 4: like parents need to stop using screens as a babysitter

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Speaker 4: and be a real parent. If you can't leave your

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Speaker 4: house without your child's iPad, then you are the problem.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Do I need to apologize?

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Speaker 1: Judge Kiki girl?

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think you do need to apologize,

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Speaker 4: Like you don't know what her mom is going through,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I know your daughter is saying she

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Speaker 4: goes over there and they're just watching screens all day,

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Speaker 4: but like thirty minutes only a day.

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Speaker 3: I can't even get through my other Like I can't

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the point of even hanging out if you're

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Speaker 1: Well, I understand saying.

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Speaker 4: I have to call the lady is her kid a

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Speaker 4: screen zombie and say she's a bad mom because she's

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Speaker 4: watching letting the kids watching.

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Speaker 2: Miss Rachel Like, come on, lady, well, I mean she asked,

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Speaker 2: you know you bet don't have to call this a

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Speaker 2: bad mom. But she asks, why is your daughter not

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Speaker 2: honestly because there's no there's no there's nothing happening. There's

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Speaker 2: no conversation, there's no you know, bonding, there's no camaraderie.

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Speaker 2: You go over watch TV like I don't, I don't

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Speaker 4: You don't think it's a little judgy when she says

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Speaker 4: and you're the problem, like, ma'am out my barney back

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Speaker 4: in the day, that mean my mom was a bad mom.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Giggy.

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Speaker 2: If you an eight five five five three five, you

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Speaker 2: get a call because you guys.

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Speaker 1: Are the jury.

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Speaker 2: If you had a kid, would you want your kid

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Speaker 2: spending as much time on social media as you do?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Please?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, but but yes, because what am I going

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Speaker 3: to do? Is it tain the kid all day?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not exactly.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are crazy.

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Speaker 1: So you agree, well, you agree that that's too much.

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Speaker 3: I think that there should be a limit. I don't,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think just because you decide that thirty minutes

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Speaker 6: I don't think that, you know, hmm yeah, As a parent,

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Speaker 6: day my daughter is going to pick up she's one,

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Speaker 6: she's gonna pick up an iPad and she already knows

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Speaker 6: me because I don't want my daughter to be I'm

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Speaker 6: going to call it an addiction because like I, as

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Speaker 3: Missing something and I don't want my daughter to have that.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: Is that unrealistic?

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Speaker 6: Yes, because she's going to be born and raised in

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Speaker 3: It's just the truth.

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Speaker 6: But I do believe in limiting U screen time and

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Speaker 6: the screens. Because I don't think I'm no doctor anymore.

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Speaker 6: I was once to not anymore. But I from my understanding,

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Speaker 6: it's not that beneficial for your kids to be on

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Speaker 6: I'm no expert, but it can't be good. So that's

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Speaker 6: why I feel like she's not wrong for what she said,

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Speaker 6: but the delivery was completely wrong.

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Speaker 3: You don't call another mom a bad mom.

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Speaker 6: You don't judge them if you said they could be

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Speaker 6: going through something you don't know, if it's like a

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Speaker 6: one parent household, and there's no Miss Rachel Slander on

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Speaker 3: Because I love Miss Rachel, that is my co parent.

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Speaker 6: But however, I do I do limit the screen time

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Speaker 8: You know, it's hard, It's it's really hard, I think

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Speaker 8: when you've got YouTube? I mean just an endless possibility here.

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Speaker 8: I mean, seriously, why pay for a babysitter? Hey, hey, Kim,

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Speaker 8: how you doing, Kim?

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Speaker 6: I'm good?

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Speaker 9: How are you, Kim?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Thanks for Colin? What do you think

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Speaker 2: you hear this story? What's your take?

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Speaker 1: My cake?

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Speaker 5: There's a way to say things, and the delivery was

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Speaker 5: really bad the way she she said it, she could

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Speaker 5: have said it in a more polite way.

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Speaker 9: She could have handled it, maybe not calling her.

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Speaker 5: Saying she's the type of mom she is, just maybe

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Speaker 5: like my child doesn't like to be on on her

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Speaker 5: you know, her computer, her tablet, whatever may be the case,

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Speaker 5: as much as as that, and I think she should apologize,

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Speaker 5: maybe tell her that my delivery could have been better,

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Speaker 5: and I apologize for how I came across.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she didn't have to call her a bad mom.

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Speaker 2: But the woman asked the question. She answered the question honestly.

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Speaker 3: I mean she gave it to her straight but it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it just sounded so mm hare.

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes the judge her.

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Speaker 10: You shouldn't judge and straight forward. Sometimes people can't handle it.

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Speaker 6: You have to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for calling. Have a great day, you too,

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Speaker 1: have a great day you called. I love you too, Yah? Hi, Mike,

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 7: So, Mike?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 2: So this woman, you know, if you just are just

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Speaker 2: tuning in, it's two moms interacting with each other and

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Speaker 2: they both have kids, and one mom used to send

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Speaker 2: kid didn't want to go over there anymore. And so

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Speaker 2: the mom asked the other mom more, well, how come

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Speaker 2: the kids watch TV. Now I don't think you had

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Speaker 2: stuff and your daughter doesn't. So that's the answer, right, right,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to agree with you.

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Speaker 9: My daughter is the same way. She loves being outside

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Speaker 9: doing things, drawing, building, whatever it is. But if I'm

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Speaker 9: just going to send her over there to watch some TV,

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Speaker 9: she can do that at home. That to me, that

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Speaker 9: that's you know, what's the point of being the kid

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Speaker 9: could have been more tactful with it that that could

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Speaker 9: to keep asking you know what's the issue. So she did. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: she gave her the response, and then she didn't like

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Mike, good points. Thank you have a good

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Speaker 1: day you as well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all having a great Maybe what this mom

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Speaker 4: could have done was invite her the kid the screen

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Speaker 4: zombie over to her house so she.

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Speaker 1: Could see a tree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know some activity.

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Speaker 1: This is called park free and they have stuff YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me show you a slide, you know, a

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Speaker 3: monkey bar or something.

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Speaker 2: And I get to a certain extent, this is generational,

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Speaker 2: Like I know that there are a lot of kids

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Speaker 2: interact primarily through technology and not face to face. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of what it's causing problems. It is. And I

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Speaker 2: have a buddy whose daughter just graduated high school. And

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Speaker 2: she's a wonderful girl and they're a wonderful family. But

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Speaker 2: her interests are primarily, from what I understand, playing video

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Speaker 2: thing was, hey, that's cool, But why am I paying

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Speaker 2: to send my kid away for college when more than likely,

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Speaker 2: And you know, she's gonna go to class and do

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Speaker 2: her homework and then she's gonna sit in her dorm

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Speaker 1: We can do that from home. Yeah, And I don't

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean you could argue, well, you got to say,

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Speaker 2: this stuff. She'll have to fend for herself in some ways.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if she's gonna sit in the room,

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Speaker 2: I kind of see his point. It's like, maybe she

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Speaker 2: that's when we send her away way, because you know,

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Speaker 2: does the does the venue matter if you're not going

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Speaker 2: to leave the room, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I see his point.

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Speaker 2: I see I see his wife's point too, which is, well,

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Speaker 2: we need to push her out and maybe she'll you know,

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Speaker 2: have to figure this out when when we're not here

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Speaker 1: You know, Lowland, Hi, Loland, how you doing?

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Speaker 10: It's Donald like Ronald?

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Speaker 2: It is it is, That's what it says. And I'm dumb,

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Speaker 2: but it looks like Lowland and uh lo Lonald Lolland

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Speaker 2: how do you say it like Ronald? I've never see

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Speaker 2: that name Donald Donald. But the way that she spelled

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Speaker 2: it was l O l A n D. Is that

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Speaker 2: how you spell your name?

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Speaker 7: L O n A l D.

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Speaker 2: That would have helped anyway, So go right ahead. I'm

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Speaker 2: a dummy, but cr spelling would help. What do you

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Speaker 2: think Kicky scored?

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Speaker 10: So I'm pairing a two three and an almost seven

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Speaker 10: year old. We limit them to so little screen time.

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Speaker 10: They get about twenty minutes during the week when we

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Speaker 1: You need to learn to be bored.

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Speaker 10: You need to learn how to entertain yourself. We'll pack

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Speaker 10: you I don't care.

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Speaker 7: And you.

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Speaker 1: Read like that.

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Speaker 2: I would think as a parent, it would be very easy,

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Speaker 2: Paulina to just hand your kid the iPad to turn

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Speaker 2: a tool, right Guys like you, you know, when you

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Speaker 2: absolutely have to get something done or cook dinner or something,

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Speaker 2: it's like here, okay now. But like if you just

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Speaker 2: don't feel like it, the whole parenting thing, I think

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Speaker 2: that could become a crutch.

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Speaker 3: That would be me.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, if you yeah, you shouldn't have kids in

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Speaker 6: my opinion, if you can't parent, that's number one. But

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Speaker 6: number two, yeah, you're absolutely right cooking dinner, getting laundry,

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Speaker 3: We'll put the TV on. Okay, I'll give her that.

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Speaker 6: But like the screen and everything with the with the

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Speaker 6: so much trickier too, because I think from my understanding,

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Speaker 6: TV and iPads are actually different, like as far as

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Speaker 6: but it's not great either for a child to be

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Speaker 1: We'll get you off a TikTok man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you blowing up right now on TikTok.

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Speaker 3: I can't get her off anymore.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell her she's gonna want money for creator fund. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thanks for calling. I have a great day. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: your thank you too.

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Speaker 1: Donald not kids need to learn to be bored.

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Speaker 3: That's real. Oh, that is so real.

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Speaker 2: It is real.

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Speaker 1: I think that is actually excellent advice. Yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like what's it like to just sit for a

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Speaker 2: with no simulation, just just for one minute, like just

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Speaker 2: let your brain, you know, breathe.

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Speaker 1: For a second. Oh God, is it me?

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Speaker 7: She? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I said it right? Thank god. Hi, Good morning, Kiki's Court.

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Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, personally, I think that the

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Speaker 7: other mom was wrong for having the one mom.

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Speaker 10: Deleted off the mom group chat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I didn't hear in the story that the

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Speaker 7: original mom said that the other mom was a bad mom, Like,

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Speaker 7: did she tell her to her face she thought she

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Speaker 7: was a bad mom or that No, that was different philosophy.

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Speaker 3: That was her going off at the end.

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Speaker 4: She said, if you can't leave your home without your

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Speaker 7: So I don't necessarily think that the first mom is

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Speaker 5: We all do.

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Speaker 7: And then the kid is just not happy going over there.

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Speaker 7: So the woman kept pushing and asking what was it?

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Speaker 7: What was it?

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 7: And the mom said, look, your daughter's on the iPad

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Speaker 7: all the time during the visit, so what's the point.

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Speaker 7: And I think that the other lady's projecting. She decided that, oh,

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Speaker 7: I must be a bad mom. You know, she's calling

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Speaker 7: how it all blew up, because the other lady knows

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Speaker 7: deep inside that maybe the first mom is onto something.

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Speaker 2: That's she asked and she got an answer and she

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Speaker 2: didn't like the answer. So yeah, it's true. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, have a good day.