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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings.

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Speaker 2: Network, the John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him. That

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Speaker 3: both big job.

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Speaker 4: There copy PreK fierce.

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Speaker 3: Rock. I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You don't save Ray Longo for the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: hour on days like today. Great to have everybody with

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Speaker 5: us and to be going three wide off the top

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Speaker 5: of the show. It's Monday, July first. Nice to turn

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Speaker 5: the calendar after a busy June. The year is twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four. It's episode four ninety, Comploring podcast starring former

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Speaker 5: three time UFC title challenger Kenny Flooryan and uh Coach

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Speaker 5: to the Stars.

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo. Ray, you got that camera setting down looking good?

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Speaker 3: My man?

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Speaker 6: How are we doing on a Monday morning?

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Speaker 3: They have feeling good man. A lot of storylines this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of storylines.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not inherently a super white guy, right and

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Speaker 5: I have television lights all over me right now.

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Speaker 6: Perhaps it's washing me out and the settings are off,

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Speaker 6: but you look just bronzed in New York.

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Speaker 4: You have won off.

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Speaker 3: Win Ray.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I figured that the tanner I get the white

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Speaker 7: of my teeth might look. Yeah, I remember a couple

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Speaker 7: of years ago. I forget who launched it, but uh, blackwater.

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Speaker 7: It's like, who wants to drink fucking black water? We

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Speaker 7: try to get whiter teeth here, you know? Okay, blackwater?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 6: I hate to have everybody with us today. We have

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Speaker 6: a ton to get into.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow and I were talking before the show today

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Speaker 5: that we could probably spend an hour on just the

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Speaker 5: Alex Padata, Antego Lopez fights, ensuing situations, upcoming matchups and

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Speaker 5: all that, and that says nothing of everything else that

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Speaker 5: transpired at UFC three oh three.

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Speaker 6: So a lot to get into today. And we will

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Speaker 6: also be.

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Speaker 5: Joined in about an hour and ten minutes live by

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Speaker 5: Dan Egay and Eric Rise from Extreme Coe Tour. So

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Speaker 5: a lot to get to today, but we begin with

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Speaker 5: headlines brought to you by Quervo. Now is a good

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Speaker 5: time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Ken Flo

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Speaker 5: and I had an appearance with Quervo on Friday night.

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Speaker 5: Kenflo was in and out. My goodness, I mean this kid,

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Speaker 5: no margin for error, boots on the ground right to

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Speaker 5: Tom's watch bar at New York, New York Ray and

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Speaker 5: then he was out of there before I could even

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Speaker 5: say goodbye. But nice to meet some of the fans Camflow,

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Speaker 5: you know. Over the weekend, a lot of podcasts listeners

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Speaker 5: showing up to UH to suck your dick and shake

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Speaker 5: your hand.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: It was a good time.

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Speaker 4: There's just a lot of people there to support us

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Speaker 4: the podcast. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: John Anick extremely gracious out there and killing it as always,

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Speaker 1: and it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we're kind of close. If I had the

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Speaker 1: same issues getting out like we all did, it could

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Speaker 1: have been bad. So I think I need to plan

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. It was efficient, it worked out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, great weekend in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to our producer Cody Merrow hitting the Red

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Speaker 5: Eye after his flight cancelation to get back here. Shame

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Speaker 5: on him for booking Spirit Airlines. But that's nearly here.

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Speaker 6: No, no was Cody was no Spirit Airlines, you know.

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Speaker 5: But we all had travel issues coming out, so I

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Speaker 5: got home at like three fifteen am.

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Speaker 4: But here we are.

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Speaker 5: Show must go on, right, there's no business like show business. Right,

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Speaker 5: there's no people like show people. They smile when they

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Speaker 5: are sad, right, you know the lyrics, right, I smile

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Speaker 5: a lot when I'm fucking said. I was not sad

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Speaker 5: Saturday night though, because Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mizula

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Speaker 5: came out of the broadcast booth and myself sell you

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Speaker 5: cell phone number. So but a lot to get to today,

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Speaker 5: And Kenny, I guess I'll start with you on Alex

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Speaker 5: Poeton Potata switch kick comes in and around the thirteen

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Speaker 5: the global superstar Poeton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's my understanding it was actually a late

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Speaker 1: stage game game planning by pooton backstage, just kind of

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Speaker 4: He's like, yep, got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to look for that headkick, just just

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Speaker 1: thrilling itself from Alex Paeda. You know, he looks like

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Speaker 5: If he wasn't in the fucking video game at this point, kemplo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it's like something out of a movie.

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Speaker 1: And the movie that I'm talking about, and I forget

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Speaker 1: who was talking to me about. It is like something

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Speaker 1: out of blood Sport when he walks out. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: get these martial arts vibes that this dude is different.

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Speaker 1: He embodies the martial arts spirit. But this guy also

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Speaker 1: means business. He's there to take you out as quickly

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Speaker 1: as possible, and just the story, the legend continues to grow.

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Speaker 4: It was brilliant the.

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Speaker 1: Way he was catching him with that left hook that

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Speaker 1: He decided to switch things up, went with that switch kick,

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Speaker 1: and again this is Poeton. Looks like he's casually just

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Speaker 4: A kick to the head and people just die and drop.

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Speaker 4: It is something to watch.

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Speaker 1: One of the most devastating and technical strikers I have

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Speaker 4: Brilliant, just absolutely brilliant. I was my mouth was my

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Speaker 4: job was open for sure.

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Speaker 3: One Kenny, you knocked it out of the park. I

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Speaker 3: caught your your prediction on Instagram. It was like a

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Speaker 3: second time. Congrats man, I mean it hit that rad

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Speaker 9: Did you see that?

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Speaker 3: This is what the guy does twenty seven. This guy's

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Speaker 3: trying to outstare him. I mean, we could spend an

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how to host this show today

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Speaker 5: when it comes to handling Alex Padata and all the storylines.

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Speaker 5: But all I was doing, sitting three feet from the

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Fellas, he did not so much as

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Speaker 5: blink Over three or four minutes, Yuri pro.

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Speaker 6: Hosca was locked in, he was around himself, but he blinked.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he's so basic that he's very sophisticated.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Kenny hit it like he is nonchalanting it.

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Speaker 3: He's got great eyeballs, great awareness, whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the basics to deal with that. And like again,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he just nonchalantly put that head kick

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Speaker 3: in was beautiful. Everything this guy does, even if it

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Speaker 3: doesn't look like he's throwing hardly. He's not emotional when

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Speaker 3: he's thrown. But those certain guys have bricks in their hands,

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Speaker 3: and he's one of them. He's got some men hands,

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Speaker 3: that guy, because he does a lot of damage with

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Speaker 3: So great awareness, he's looking for openings. He's setting me up.

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Speaker 3: Other people are just in there. I think I'm just

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Speaker 3: He knows exactly what he's doing. That's, you know, my

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Speaker 3: a talented guy, but his spirituality and his craziness, he

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Speaker 3: the guy just you could see the guy sparring on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: That's what he does. You know, he's another you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like Strickland. They perform the way they train. That's

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Speaker 3: He's a guy that can do exactly what he's been

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Speaker 5: Kenny, he did this without a training camp. I don't

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Speaker 5: know how that factors into all of this, Ray touched

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Speaker 5: on his vision and to you as the former athlete

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Speaker 5: his day. Of course, I was a basketball player myself right,

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Speaker 5: but like to never be flat on fight night, to

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Speaker 5: always be able to channel the emotions in the right way,

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Speaker 5: regardless of what training camp you've had or what warm

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes even on this night, we saw one fighter had

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Speaker 5: such a long walkout that his opponent sprinted to the

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Speaker 5: his warm up. So what can you tell us about

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Speaker 5: just how you felt one fight into the next and

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Speaker 5: some nights, Kenny, I know you've talked about just walking

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Speaker 5: out there and there was no man that was going

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Speaker 5: to beat you on that night. But po Ton he

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Speaker 5: just always looked so relaxed dancing in the locker room,

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Speaker 5: and then when he needs to flip the switch, man

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Speaker 5: does he fucking flip it.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: I think this is what a martial artist's train is,

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Speaker 1: That you need to be good enough to beat someone

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Speaker 1: on your worst day, not on your best day.

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Speaker 4: How do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Do you do that by being fired up all the time.

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Speaker 1: Do you do that by just being a tough guy

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Speaker 1: all the time? Those things help, But I think what

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Speaker 1: Patta is the fact that this is a very intelligent fighter.

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Speaker 4: First of all, you see clips. You start to see

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Speaker 6: So we can spin it forward. There are a few

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Speaker 5: To Rousey's rise and Israel. Lota Sonja made his UFC

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Speaker 6: That one is ready to go as far I'm concerned

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's another reason of why Alex Padeda is built

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Speaker 5: it comes to these fighter meetings, some fighters show up late,

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Speaker 5: some fighters don't show up at all. For the most part,

439
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 5: the roster is outstanding when it comes to this. But

440
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Speaker 5: I could list a handful of these high profile former

441
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Speaker 5: or current undisputed champions that have never been late for

442
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Speaker 5: a fighter meeting and have never skipped one. And I'll

443
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Speaker 5: start with Alex Padata, right, has never skipped a fighter meeting,

444
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 5: has never been late. Israelata Sonya has attended every single one.

445
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Speaker 5: If he can't do it in person, he's on the

446
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Speaker 5: phone and on time. Alexander Volkanowski has never not attended

447
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Speaker 5: a fighter meeting, Dustin Poorier, Justin Gatchie. There's one other

448
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Speaker 5: champion that I'm forgetting that I really want to inject

449
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Speaker 5: into this conversation. But it does speak to oh, Charles

450
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 5: olivera right, I mean Brazilians right, notoriously late.

451
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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, these.

452
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Speaker 5: Are world class human beings, right, Like I might need

453
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Speaker 5: a shoot the box tattoo to just express my appreciation

454
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Speaker 5: for just how amazing those people are. Maybe there you go,

455
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: these are just a lead human beings and Plinio Cruz

456
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Speaker 5: and Alex Podata are very much that.

457
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Speaker 6: So right to your point, like this couldn't be happening

458
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Speaker 6: to better individuals.

459
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Speaker 3: And Joe, let me say some too, Glove tech sharer.

460
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Speaker 3: You know, reck guy was the heavyweight chap. He walked

461
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Speaker 3: into the room like he was just a normal ordinary guy,

462
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Speaker 3: which ever everybody actually is. But there was no hoop lot,

463
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: there was no entourage him. I think it starts at

464
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Speaker 3: the top, and it starts with Glover. His personality, you know,

465
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Speaker 3: trickles right down to Alex Pereira. I mean, they're just

466
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Speaker 3: nice guys. They just walk in. There's like again, they're

467
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Speaker 3: there for business and that's it. You know what I mean,

468
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: they don't. They're not window dressing everything with the fucking bullshit.

469
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Speaker 3: They're just down to earth, great people. I think it

470
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Speaker 3: starts from the top and shout out to Glove text Share.

471
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Speaker 3: I think he's one of those guys that's always willing

472
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Speaker 3: to take the time to talk to you, and he's

473
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Speaker 3: a great guy. They got a great thing going over,

474
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Speaker 3: you know, in Connecticut. I love those small little gyms

475
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Speaker 3: that you know get huge results. So pats off to

476
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Speaker 3: everybody in that place.

477
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Speaker 1: And ray that that's crucial because you know, the the

478
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Speaker 1: ability and the importance to keep your fighter grounded. Yeah,

479
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: he is on top of the world and being in

480
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Speaker 1: a smaller gym is an advantage because of that. And

481
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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of want to talk about this.

482
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Speaker 1: This is kind of important to me, is you know

483
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Speaker 1: right now I've seen from fighters, former fighters, current analysts

484
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: of people saying that he's the goat, that he's the

485
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Speaker 1: pound for pound best guy on the planet right now,

486
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Speaker 1: and I think we need to kind of slow the

487
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Speaker 1: roll a little bit. Two things can be true. He

488
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Speaker 1: could be the best striker in that division, He could

489
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Speaker 1: be the best fighter in that division, but it doesn't

490
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Speaker 1: necessarily make him the best pound for pound fighter in

491
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Speaker 1: the world. Guys, we need to kind of calm down

492
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I posed a question on Twitter.

493
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Speaker 1: I said, if Uri pro Hosca was could he be

494
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Speaker 1: a top fifteen ranking at welterweight, lightweight, featherweight, or bantamweight.

495
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Speaker 1: And I do believe he can. But the question was

496
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Speaker 1: really to see how things how people are thinking, Like

497
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Speaker 1: when you look at these other divisions, there are killers

498
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Speaker 1: in that division. My point is two hundred and five

499
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Speaker 1: pound division isn't the highest level division right now. Alex

500
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Preeda hasn't faced the high level grapplers like the Islam Mahashi,

501
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: the Medoffs, all those other guys, right.

502
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Speaker 4: So just com out.

503
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Speaker 1: He may prove he may prove himself to be that,

504
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: but let's just calm down a little bit and compare

505
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Speaker 1: it to the other divisions. And some people I was

506
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: getting some stupid responses like, well, of course he would

507
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Speaker 1: beat them, he's way heavier than them, you know, like

508
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're joking about people are thinking

509
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: about this. You have to see that these other divisions

510
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: are absolutely crazy. Bantamweight, featherweight, like weight, there's just so

511
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: many killers. In so many different styles, and you need

512
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Speaker 1: to show that you have a variety of skills in

513
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Speaker 1: my opinion, and a lot of different areas to put

514
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Speaker 1: yourself to be a pound for pound great.

515
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Speaker 4: So that's where I'm coming from.

516
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean pound for pound, I agree with Kenny.

517
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Speaker 3: But he's so dynamic from his walkout to the way

518
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: he carries himself to knock getting his shit out of people.

519
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: They can't even get up off the floor. And that's

520
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: why I think that it's coming in. They're not analyzing

521
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: it like you, because you're a fighter and you're very analytic.

522
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: But you can't blame him because he he comes through

523
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: every time, from the standout to the walkdoun to the

524
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 3: knockout to the like again, the way he carries himself.

525
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Speaker 3: You gotta love the guy.

526
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Speaker 4: So most I think I think I think it's coming

527
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: from the artists. I'll sign off on that for sure.

528
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's coming from the right spot. But

529
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Speaker 3: they're not thinking of it from an analytical standpoint, especially

530
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Speaker 3: when you when they're saying, you know, well he's heavier

531
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Speaker 3: than everybody.

532
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, well it also doesn't become fair to to

533
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Speaker 1: Patta too. It's like dude, it's still only been in

534
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Speaker 1: the sport for a couple of years.

535
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Speaker 4: Just like crazy, let's let him go out. Yes, you know,

536
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: and like you.

537
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Speaker 3: Said, there's a million other things we could say he's

538
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Speaker 3: the best at and what he's accomplished. But I think

539
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: I really hope it's coming from everybody's just happy because

540
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: he's a good guy and I love to see good

541
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Speaker 3: guys get good results and do great.

542
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you where it's coming from. I mean, very

543
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 5: rarely does can flow engage in the pound for pound

544
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Speaker 5: debate because it's such an inexact science.

545
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Speaker 8: Right.

546
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 5: Leon Edwards is the guy who is right above Alex

547
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: Podeda on the pound for pound list, and oftentimes he

548
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: defends his title and Kada disappears. And Alex Paneda has

549
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: been omnipresent, not just in the octagon but on social media.

550
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 5: He's become a global superstar in icon He's probably five

551
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: times the star that Leon Edwards is. But real quick,

552
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Speaker 5: because I didn't want to engage in this either. If

553
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Speaker 5: Leon Edwards beats Balad Muhammad, right, Shavkot rokmanov Ian Maschado, Gary,

554
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: Sean Brady, on and on it goes, you think about

555
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 5: the absolute killers that are waiting when we look at

556
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Speaker 5: the top fifteen at light heavyweight. I would like to

557
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: see Jamal Hill work his way back to a rematch

558
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 5: with Alex Peda. But you know, you got to go

559
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: down to like Azamat Murza Khanov to get me to

560
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: start watching film to get super intrigued about a matchup

561
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Speaker 5: for Alex Pandeda. And yeah, I'd like to see him

562
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 5: rematch Kuhovich and Nikita Krilov's The Man and Rock Itch

563
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: is an interesting matchup, but uh Man one hundred and

564
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Speaker 5: seventy pounds.

565
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 3: Point really will take it all right.

566
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: Uri Prohaska Kenny real quick because we do have to

567
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: move on. I don't know if he's a finished product

568
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: at this point in time. The UFC body of work

569
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 5: is short. Even though a lot of those have been

570
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 5: championship fights. He accrued a lot of experience outside the

571
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: UFC Realized World titles. But he has said that if

572
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: he can't level up at this point in time, then

573
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: he doesn't need to fight again. And I'm not saying

574
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: he's a finished product, but to make wholesale defensive changes,

575
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 5: you know, nearly forty fights in I think is going

576
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: to be a big challenge for him.

577
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: There's no question it will be.

578
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, similar to what we

579
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: were talking about last week with fundamentals and basic there's

580
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: a whole like amount of footwork stuff that he needs

581
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Speaker 1: to get going, just like keep you know, whether it's

582
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, his positioning, his stance, you know how how

583
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: he moves, his defensive capabilities, all these things that he

584
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: has gotten away with.

585
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Speaker 4: You know, that's why success can be a deceiverer.

586
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, just because you're getting a certain result doesn't

587
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: mean you're on the right path necessarily, Like there's things

588
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: you need to do. And I think that he is

589
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: a guy who's determined to get better. I think he's

590
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: a hard worker. I think he truly does love this game.

591
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: And if he's recognizing these things, I think we will

592
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: see vast improvements.

593
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: But it's gonna take improvements.

594
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Speaker 1: It's gonna take some good analysis and good coaching, some

595
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: good people around him, because he has all those intangibles.

596
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: He's a very powerful striker himself. He moves very well

597
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: for such a big guy. He is obviously very mentally focused,

598
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: he is tough as nails. He has all these things

599
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and he's gotten this far, you know, with that, But

600
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: can he make improvements? Absolutely? I hope he does. I

601
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: love seeing him fight. He's exciting as hell. And I

602
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: also think he can get back there, you know, I

603
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: really do. I think he's that special from a mental perspective.

604
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: But he you know, he's gonna he's gonna have to

605
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: work on those technical aspects.

606
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I don't know the guy at all.

607
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: But again I go back to what I said before.

608
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: He's he one hundred percent of beautiful martial artist, but

609
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: he could be getting in his own way, Kenny, you

610
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like, it's it's easy what

611
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: we're saying, but some guys just aren't willing to listen.

612
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: Like if you said, I listen, we're going to swap

613
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: out you meditating with an hour of footwork. He's not

614
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: doing it, you know what I'm saying. He's not gonna

615
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: do it. He believes in the meditation. That's very martial arty.

616
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: I love it. I love I love his old stick.

617
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: But he's gonna have to swap out a couple of

618
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: things to get better, and I'm not sure he's willing

619
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: to do that. Because I've dealt with people that you

620
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: know a little wacky like that, you know, I mean,

621
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: you know comes to mind when I see him lu Como,

622
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: remember Luke, Yeah, I mean very you know, drinking his

623
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: own piss. He's doing everything. He'd drink his own piss

624
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: before he would do something that could get him better

625
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: for the fight, because he believed doing that would get

626
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: him better. You know what I'm saying. And maybe it would,

627
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: but I'm saying it when when you come up with

628
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: like trust the process ye had. The process is eating right,

629
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: getting enough sleep, doing your footwork, practicing the fundamentals over

630
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: and over and over and over and over again, you

631
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's not some crazy bullshit

632
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: that maybe is helping you. But if that's what he believes,

633
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: perception is reality. Yeah, that's where I think the challenges

634
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: with him. And honestly, as a coach, what do you

635
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: want to train the guy? I think he's a happy guy.

636
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: He loves the martial arts, he embraces the spirituality, and

637
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: that's all good, but there comes a time when you

638
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: got a fucking assassin in front of you. Yeah, you

639
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: better be squared away. And that's where I think is missing.

640
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 5: All right, Well, congratulations to Alex Poeton Paeda As the

641
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: UFC light Heavyweight.

642
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: Championship remains in New England.

643
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: The Larry O'Brien O'Brien Trophy is also there after the

644
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: Boston Celtics won the NBA title. No Massachusetts born UFC

645
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 5: champions yet, but nice to see Alex padata Kee keeping

646
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: the UFC light heavyweight title there in New England. You know,

647
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 5: people say it's been about five days since there has

648
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: been a championship in New York, but I guess that

649
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: would not be accurate because al Jermaine Sterling has certainly

650
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 5: been the UFC Panaway champion inside of that distance, right,

651
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 5: So all right, well let's move on.

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Speaker 6: Shall we?

653
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez over Dany Gay in the co main event

654
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: twenty nine to twenty eight across the board. Hopefully everybody

655
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: who is ingesting this live episode of the Anak and

656
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: Florian podcast knows the backstory. But if you don't, a

657
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: record that may never be broken. Dany Gay Kenny accepting

658
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: a fight on four hours notice. I think actually there

659
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: are more storylines on the Diego Lopez side, if I'm

660
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: being honest, but this ends up being contested at a

661
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: catchwaight of one hundred and sixty five pounds. Diego Lopez

662
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 5: had to thrice way in for this fight. He was

663
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: one forty six when he bet went to bed, then

664
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 5: was told to rehydrate in the middle of the night.

665
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 5: He weighs in at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

666
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Speaker 5: Rein wid take it gets sick. He weighs in a

667
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty one pounds. Danny Gay arrives, weighs

668
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: one sixty four and a half, and so much for

669
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Speaker 5: Diego Lopez to deal with, He texted me privately, it

670
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: was a drain on my energy that I never had

671
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: felt before in my career.

672
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Speaker 6: Bro total madness, and.

673
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Speaker 5: I just can't even believe that he was able to

674
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: compete as well as he as he did. IgA competed exceedingly. Well,

675
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: we'll hear from Dan in about an hour or so,

676
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Speaker 5: can flow What do you have for us on the comin?

677
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so much there. This is something that

678
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: is certainly going to serve.

679
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez az well, because you experienced this kind of

680
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: madness and chaos early on in this year, and you're like,

681
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: I can officially.

682
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: Handle anything now.

683
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: So in a lot of ways, I think it's a

684
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: good thing for him, especially the fact that he was

685
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: able to walk away with a good result. I thought

686
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: it was a pretty solid performance overall, especially given the circumstances.

687
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Speaker 1: An absolute legend when it comes to accepting whatever the

688
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: situation was, Okay, i'll fight our tag at one fifty

689
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: five screw it, let's do it. Oh well, wait a

690
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: second dan Egay in four hours at one hundred and

691
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: sixty five pounds. Okay, screw it, let's go. That's the

692
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: stuff that legend is made of. And of course the

693
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: same goes for dan Egay. There's a lot of people

694
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: that says, hey, I'll fight anybody anytime, and certainly there

695
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: had to be circumstances that allowed for dan eGate to

696
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: do it.

697
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: He was probably healthy, he was feeling.

698
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Speaker 1: Good, you know, YadA, YadA, YadA, he's in Vegas. But

699
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: very few people would say yes to that. And the

700
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: fact that he was able to do that and put

701
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: on a great fight, a great performance overall, I think

702
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: it's a testament to who Dan Egay is as a dude.

703
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: And you know, this is what makes the UFC unbeatable.

704
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: It really it's that's obvious. But when it comes to

705
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: their roster and their ability to switch gears and pivot

706
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: whenever the heck they want. The UFC always finds a

707
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: way ninety nine times out of one hundred, and it's

708
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: impressible watch. They're just a well oiled machine, and you know,

709
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: to have fighters like that to step up is a

710
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: huge save for the organization for that event. They put

711
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: on a great show, made it even better than just

712
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: having to cancel the Ortega Lopez fight after everything they

713
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: went through. So just really impressed and with everything that

714
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: happened there.

715
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean Kenny as a fighter, though,

716
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: who do you think had the advantage of disadvantage?

717
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think probably Dan Egay because

718
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: there was no weight. Catton great, you know, and he's

719
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: always in shape, like listen, He's putting in work, no

720
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: question about it. But from a mental perspective, he's like,

721
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Speaker 1: I get to snipe him, I get to come in there.

722
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Speaker 4: I got nothing to lose. Lopez has gone through hell.

723
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Speaker 1: He weighed in at one hundred and forty six pounds

724
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Speaker 1: and here I am at one hundred and sixty one

725
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: or whatever.

726
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: It was ready to go.

727
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: I think Ega had the advantage there, and the fact

728
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: that Lopez was still getting That's what I mean, the

729
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: fact that Lopez was still able to do that. Yes,

730
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: Danny Gay is one hundred and forty five pounds fighter,

731
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: but he was not. He did not have to make

732
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five doubt.

733
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Speaker 3: And then I'm going to say, listen, both guys obviously gangsters.

734
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Speaker 3: I can't talk as a fighter, but as a coach.

735
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: If I got a guy at one forty five, he's

736
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: looking his best three or four weeks out, or three

737
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: or two weeks out at one sixty's, that's when he

738
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: looks the best. I never see guys make the weight

739
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: and look as good as they did before the weight

740
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: a lot of times. So I think that was where

741
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: I was coming from. But I wanted your perspective on

742
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: as a fight. I mean, this other guy had to

743
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: go through hell. Making the weight ain't easy. Then the

744
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: getting the change of opponents while you're already delirious, imagine

745
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: that he's come. They come into the steam room while

746
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: he's making weight. Go, look, we just changed your opponent.

747
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: That's a gangster man. And so is Hegay? Hegay? Look

748
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: he GA's another kid. Obviously he loves to fight. There's

749
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: no hesitation and him he was in camp. What I

750
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: could fight right now without making weight. It's like asking

751
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: the guy to come into the gym and spot It's awesome.

752
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: It was. That's a great thing.

753
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Speaker 8: You know.

754
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: They both were at the same advantage as far as

755
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: not knowing who they were fighting until at last minute,

756
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: So there's no preparation, but one guy making the weight

757
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: and then going up the adversity that guy had to

758
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: deal with mentally, how many guys are going to do that? Seriously,

759
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: how many guys that you know are going to do that?

760
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: And for people at home, just because someone has never

761
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: missed weight or is always making weight doesn't make it

762
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: an easy weightcut. Diego Lopez is an inch taller than me. Okay,

763
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: this guy, there's no way that's an easy cut at

764
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: any point. I don't care what kind of shape he

765
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: stays in year round. It is never easy going down

766
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: to one hundred and forty five pounds for anyone like

767
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: five ten and higher.

768
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Speaker 4: Okay, So again, it's it's unbelievable what he was able

769
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: to do.

770
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Diego Lopez really shouldn't be judged on this performance,

771
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: and it was a really good one. But Ray, you

772
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: and I have a lot of alignment when it comes

773
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: to this whole situation. Now, Diego Lopez on Saturday Night

774
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: was offered his money to not fut right. But I

775
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 5: have a lot of strong opinions about this, and I

776
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: want to say them in a way that doesn't, you know,

777
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 5: get me sensationalized. But I don't know that Diego Lopez

778
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 5: race should be put in this position right because the

779
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: stakes are high for these fights, and had Diego Lopez

780
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: gotten knocked out cold in this situation, that could have

781
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: been really detrimental to his career. Losing a decision to

782
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 5: Danny Gay, I don't think would have been a big deal.

783
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 5: I still think it stands to reason that he's getting

784
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: the Brian Ortega fight next, regardless of outcome. Certainly, I

785
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: think he will probably get a new contract, and he

786
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 5: has the ultimate respect of the promotion in the fan base,

787
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: and all of those things are amazing, and he's the

788
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: ultimate warrior, and he'll say on the microphone, you know anyone,

789
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 5: any time, anywhere. But it's just hard at the highest level, Kenny,

790
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: These mixed martial arts careers are so delicate, and while

791
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: we want to in one breath.

792
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 6: Appreciate these guys for stepping up.

793
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 5: I think Diego Lopez was put in a really bad

794
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: position and thankfully, you know, he doesn't lose his winning

795
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: streak and his ranking because of it.

796
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: There was so much to lose, John, there was so

797
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 4: much to lose in regards to his ranking.

798
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: There was so much to lose as far as the

799
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: perception of Diego Lopez and how good he is. You know,

800
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: and people are going to look at that go well,

801
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, looks like EGA one round three. You know,

802
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: if we could just get him to the later rounds.

803
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Don't make that mistake. Guys, don't make that mistake. There

804
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: was a lot he had to deal with. Ega was fresh,

805
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, Lopez was doing great, a great job for

806
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: the first part of that third round, got tired, ended

807
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: up having to fight off his back, but he showed

808
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: that championship medal, that heart, that determination to push through

809
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: and take those risks, because again, these are some of

810
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the things that you need to do as a fighter.

811
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: I remember getting an email when I was in Afghanistan

812
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: visiting the troops and they're like, hey, can you fight

813
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: Dean Thomas in like three weeks? And I was like, yeah,

814
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: my contract was coming up. I wanted a higher level,

815
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: like a higher named opponent. I was like, yes, this

816
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: is this is the thing. This is not ideal, but

817
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: I need to do this for me. I think this

818
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: is going to help me if I'm able to get

819
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the result. They don't always go your way, but these

820
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: are the kind of things as fighters, and this is

821
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: nowhere near what Jago Lopez did, but these are the

822
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: things that you kind of need to do. It doesn't

823
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: always work out, but if you have confidence in your

824
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: training and your abilities, it can serve you well, not

825
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: only for later on in your career, but you know,

826
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: in your standing with the organization.

827
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: So this was just amazing, both for Ega and for Lopez.

828
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 4: They saved the night.

829
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: And I hope that what you've just said good standing

830
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: with the organization really comes through. I just hope you

831
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: do the right thing because I know where John's coming from.

832
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: I don't even want to get into it, but as

833
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: a promoter, obviously you want to make the fight at

834
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: any cost, right, even the cost of the athlete. I

835
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: think that's kind of where John might be coming from,

836
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: and it kind of sucks, and that's why I say

837
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: I just hope everything works out for Lopez because I

838
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: think he was at such a disadvantage with just everything

839
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: and even the pressure had taken that fight. Not wanting

840
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: to disappoint the organization, it's it's it's horrible, but I'm

841
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: trying to look at the bright side, you know. I

842
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: like flexibility. I like that the commission even allowed it.

843
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of commissions that would have

844
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: never even allowed that. So I don't know. I'm glad

845
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: it worked out because if.

846
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 5: YEF yeah, yeah, you know, I think they did a

847
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: lot of commission. They deserve a lot of credit.

848
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: I think they do. They showed flexibility. I like that.

849
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: I don't like rigidity. Yeah, it's just it's my way

850
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: at a highway. But this they got the fight done.

851
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: And from a promoter standpoint, and I do promote fights.

852
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: You need those fights, but it's it's tricky. Man. I'm

853
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: just so happy it worked out and that this guy

854
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: took the fight. That just speaks volumes about who he is,

855
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: and I hope the organization always takes care of that guy.

856
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 6: Right, do you need to leave?

857
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: I got to go, but I got so much other

858
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 3: shit to say, man, But yeah, this sucks.

859
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 5: What do you have who's coming in that you have

860
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 5: to go? And by the way, can you look at

861
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: your camera before you go? Look at the camera, look

862
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 5: at your No, the camera we bought you.

863
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: There you go.

864
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: So from now on, I know you want to see

865
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: our shining faces. But anytime you can look at that camera.

866
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 5: See sometimes I'll look at you guys. Sometimes I look

867
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: at my script. You can't do that, right, that's tough.

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Speaker 3: I know that the point of that. I could do

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Speaker 3: it now, but listen before I go, and I gotta

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Speaker 3: run out, and I'm sorry, let's do it. I want

871
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Speaker 3: to if we come back Wednesday, when do you do it?

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Speaker 6: Other show this week?

873
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Speaker 3: I'm on, But I want to welcome Cash Revola into

874
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Speaker 3: the world. Matt Rovola had a baby boy. Congrats to him.

875
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Speaker 3: Congrats to Angie Sarah. She won another gold medal in

876
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Speaker 3: at Floridham University. I'm gonna blow everything, but congrats to

877
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Speaker 3: the whole Sarah family. There's wonderful people. And his wife

878
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Speaker 3: also won gold.

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Speaker 6: So this is crazy to see how the bulldoze of

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Speaker 6: Forrovola first time grandfather, No I first, one hundred percent amazing.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations to the whole Forravola clan.

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Speaker 3: And everybody else unless I don't know something, but it

883
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Speaker 3: might be but anyway, guys, I gotta run. All right, guys,

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Speaker 3: love it, man, I think, uh, everything was great today. Man,

885
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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. But there was a lot more going.

886
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Ian Gary's walkout. So Derek

887
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Speaker 3: and the Domino do it.

888
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: You know, we'll do it.

889
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: We'll do it.

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00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: We'll do it for minutes on Wednesday. Thank you, Thank you,

891
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 6: take it easy, guys.

892
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Speaker 3: Great stuff, and.

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Speaker 5: Thanks everybody for joining us live here today on YouTube

894
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: and later on of course on the DraftKings Network on

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Speaker 5: the audio side, wherever you ingest your podcast. Kind of

896
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 5: nice that Raymond has all the equipment now because he

897
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 5: looks absolutely fantastic. So there's so many different angles to

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Speaker 5: this one thing that I was going to bring up

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Speaker 5: with ray when I just asked him if he had

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Speaker 5: to go there. Kenny Danny Gay is in Las Vegas,

901
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Speaker 5: and the guy's ready to fight most of the year,

902
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 5: and we have a lot of UFC fight nights at

903
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Speaker 5: the Apex and then we have pay per views at

904
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Speaker 5: T Mobile Arena. And I found myself thinking like, if

905
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Speaker 5: I'm a featherweight contender and I'm coming to Las Vegas

906
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Speaker 5: and I'm in the top fifteen or even the top twenty.

907
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: There's a pretty good chance if my opponent falls out

908
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Speaker 5: or has a history of making weight, that Danny Gay

909
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Speaker 5: is going to be a guy that wants to step

910
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Speaker 5: into that setting. And we're going to talk to Dan

911
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Speaker 5: here in about a half an hour. And I'm not

912
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Speaker 5: going to suggest to you that he went to bed

913
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Speaker 5: the night before expecting that Brian Ortego was going to

914
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Speaker 5: wake up and have a fever of one hundred and

915
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Speaker 5: three degrees and not be able to compete. But Danny

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Speaker 5: Gay was of a mentality that he was gonna fight,

917
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Speaker 5: and I think that's why he competed.

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Speaker 4: So so well.

919
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Speaker 5: Like I think this was a prime, primal Dany Gay

920
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Speaker 5: that Diego Lopez had to handle, and you know, thankfully

921
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Speaker 5: he had him for two rounds because Danny Gay was

922
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Speaker 5: coming strong.

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Speaker 10: John he's Hawaiian, John, He's Hawaiian. I mean it's like

924
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Speaker 10: in Hawaii, you're always ready to fight. You might you

925
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 10: might have to throw down, you know, every ten minutes

926
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Speaker 10: over there.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm literally if there's one guy

928
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Speaker 1: that was gonna take it, it was dany Gay.

929
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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised by it. It doesn't make it any

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Speaker 4: less impressive, though.

931
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Speaker 1: I mean again, to do that and to perform like

932
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Speaker 1: that shows that he really is always ready, and you know,

933
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Speaker 1: being at the right place at the right time help certainly,

934
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to

935
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Speaker 1: go and say yes and put your balls on the line.

936
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Speaker 4: And after he did, and the.

937
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Speaker 5: UFC has established so much goodwill with these commissions that

938
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Speaker 5: they want to try to do right by the UFC.

939
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Speaker 5: And Chill sun And said on the postfight show he

940
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Speaker 5: feels like Andy Foster in California would have made this

941
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Speaker 5: fight happen. Jeff Mullen, of course made it happen in Nevada,

942
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Speaker 5: but uh not many athletic commissions would even want to

943
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Speaker 5: go down this path, never mind approve the fight.

944
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Speaker 6: Jason Addick now georgeist in studio. The champ is here, huh.

945
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Speaker 11: I like that.

946
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: The champ is here? So how's your back? How's your back?

947
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Speaker 4: It's terrible, It hurts.

948
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Speaker 5: It hurts so big Ron's buddy that was out there,

949
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Speaker 5: we were just out there at the Virgin is a

950
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Speaker 5: gifted chiro press yea.

951
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Speaker 6: Kenny and I are anti Chiro press, So am I?

952
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 6: So am I?

953
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean he need to put his hands on you,

954
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: but uh, yeah, you know he's talking to about helped anyway.

955
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 6: What's going on? No Chiro practice for me and Ken Flip.

956
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 5: So, uh, it's great to see you, and I don't

957
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: want to knock your balls right out of the shop.

958
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: But it is twelve forty eight pm Eastern, and I

959
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Speaker 5: did ask you to be here twelve thirty.

960
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: It's fine.

961
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: Well, Kenny, when he just said it's great to see you,

962
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: I mean wow. I mean never it seems to be

963
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Speaker 5: great to see me when I come in here. So

964
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Speaker 5: I was here at twelve forty six. A bunch of

965
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Speaker 5: bullshit on my station that I had to deal with right,

966
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Speaker 5: but my pass, my pass to get into the gate

967
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Speaker 5: didn't work right. So we were waiting behind a mobile

968
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Speaker 5: Paw Paw patrol service. Will they come and take care

969
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Speaker 5: of you?

970
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: But you know I pulled in at twelve thirty seven,

971
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Speaker 6: but I brought everything you need. Okay, No, we're ready

972
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Speaker 6: to go.

973
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Speaker 4: And hey, you got through the security outside your brother's home.

974
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Speaker 4: That's good, exactly exactly.

975
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: We're excited to continue to recap UFC three ZHO three.

976
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: You said something about your station, are you talking about

977
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Speaker 5: there was some.

978
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Speaker 4: Clutter with you.

979
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, all this merchandise in plastic. We just like things

980
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 5: a little bit cleaner over here.

981
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Speaker 3: All right.

982
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: So next time as I'm prepping the show on a

983
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 5: few hours sleep, I will I will make sure your

984
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: station is cleaned up. What is that custom for kristaps

985
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Speaker 5: porzingis I think that double XL Celtics to get those

986
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Speaker 5: on the site.

987
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

988
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 6: Anyway, so interesting weekend for you.

989
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 5: You were there hosting for UFC Fight Pass, and I

990
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 5: know you were very convicted on Alex Padata and Diego Lopez,

991
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 5: as were a lot of people out there.

992
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 6: But what did you think of UFC three oh three?

993
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 6: Amazing weekend, amazing event.

994
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of a broken record, but what happens with

995
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 5: me is I every week I'll talk to multiple fighters

996
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 5: about these fights, and every week, whether it's main event,

997
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: comin event, I talk to fighters who like fighters on

998
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: both sides, on opposite side to the fight, which puts

999
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: me in a spot where it's like, man, I mean

1000
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: even certain when I think back to Diego Lopez, sadik yusef,

1001
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 5: how many guys that are much smarter than me. Absolutely

1002
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: love sadik Usef and I'm just like Diego Lopez just

1003
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 5: because you know.

1004
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 6: But for me, no, it's just unbelievable event.

1005
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 5: And Poeton, I found myself saying, man, three hundred three

1006
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: oh three, I don't feel that way anymore. He can

1007
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 5: headline every event as far as I'm concerned, Kenny, it

1008
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 5: really is crazy. Alex Podata was not initially set to

1009
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: headline nor competed UFC three hundred nor three oh three,

1010
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: And those are two of the biggest pay per views

1011
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: really in UFC history, right, I mean, I guess three

1012
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: zero three you could argue in terms of pay per

1013
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 5: view buys, maybe won't go down top twenty of all time, right,

1014
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: but still International Fight.

1015
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 6: Week a massive show. Like dude, this do wasn't even

1016
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 6: set to compete at either one of those live events.

1017
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: It's not it's unbelievable.

1018
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Again, this isn't a guy who's a challenger.

1019
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: This isn't a guy who's in like the top fifteen.

1020
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: This is the champion in that division, putting it all

1021
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: in the line, going yes, bring it, let's go.

1022
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: That's the kind of confidence he had.

1023
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 5: So we're going to talk to Danny Gay and Eric

1024
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 5: Nixic here in about twenty five minutes. But as far

1025
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: as spinning this thing forward for Diego Lopez, I know

1026
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 5: Dustin Poorier, who did a fantastic job on the Post

1027
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: show and on ESPN's coverage all weekend long, but he

1028
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 5: wants to see Danny Gay and Diego Lopez run it back.

1029
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: And I don't think at all that Diego Lopez should

1030
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: should do that.

1031
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: Certainly.

1032
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: I think both of these athletes deserve to compete at

1033
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: the Sphere. Kenny, this is a unique live event that

1034
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 5: every athlete on the roster wants to fight on. We

1035
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 5: haven't talked a lot about Brian Ortega's part in all

1036
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 5: of this, Kenny. I want to get your thoughts and

1037
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Speaker 5: then Jay, if I could. I feel like Diego Lopez

1038
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 5: deserves his shot at Brian Ortega in the top three,

1039
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 5: unless Ortega is leaving the division. I think if you're

1040
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez, you move on from this Dan Egay fight

1041
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: that never was really even signed.

1042
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't think that makes sense at all.

1043
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: To be honest, I think that your Taga fight makes

1044
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot more sense, even at one

1045
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounds. It's a little weird because

1046
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: they're both, you know, true featherweights. But I think that's

1047
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: the fight you got to make, you know. I just

1048
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: hope that if something does happen between one of those

1049
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: guys that we have a much bigger heads up on it.

1050
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's the fight. It's intriguing it. Yeah, definitely

1051
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: is an intriguing fight.

1052
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 5: So Volkanovsky is sort of laying back in the cut

1053
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 5: right now. Iliots Opotia is the featherweight champion. He is

1054
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: in all likelihood going to fight Max Holloway, Brian Ortega three'

1055
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: Rodriguez four Rodriguez coming off a loss, probably not going

1056
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: to be the next guy for Diego Lopez off a win.

1057
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: And then there's mov storr Ivloyev, who was also in

1058
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 5: the top five, has that amazing fight and history with

1059
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez. I'm not sure if he is booked. Jay,

1060
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 5: what do you think about Diego Lopez moving forward? I'm

1061
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: glad you didn't ask me about Brian Ortega, frankly, because

1062
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: there's so much this week that I have no idea

1063
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: about what happened when where anyway, So Diego Lopez for me,

1064
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: I guess it feels like for me, whatever that path

1065
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: may be, I'd like to see it be one more

1066
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: and then maybe a title shot, like a title eliminator

1067
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 5: of sorts.

1068
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 6: In terms of who the opponent is, frankly, it doesn't

1069
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 6: really matter me.

1070
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mid seeing him in a five round setting,

1071
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 5: you know, as soon as possible, just to see because

1072
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 5: the cardio did seem to be the one component for

1073
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 5: me that maybe led up a little bit fight.

1074
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 6: I Q certainly there. I loved everything I saw.

1075
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: I love how he to me.

1076
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if you touch on this earlier. I

1077
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 5: watched a little bit of it, but he does come

1078
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: out guns blazon. But with that Egay matchup, he absolutely

1079
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 5: took a little bit off the gas, and I agree,

1080
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 5: I agree appropriately defensively, he still went for it. Don't

1081
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: get me wrong, but I think he pulled back enough

1082
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: to sort of give Ega the respect he deserved. Yes,

1083
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 5: you can be sure so, but for Diego Lopez, for me,

1084
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 5: I think this guy's the limit, but I would like

1085
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 5: to see him get a little more experienced.

1086
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 6: I'd like to see him fight five round Jay. I

1087
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 6: read this earlier.

1088
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez messaged me privately, it was a drain on

1089
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: my energy that I never had felt before in my career,

1090
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: broke total madness, like a crazy week, Kenny, What do

1091
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: you have for us on that? In terms of Diego

1092
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: Lopez stylistically, certainly Dany Gay is a more credential fighter

1093
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: than the last three victims for Diego Lopez that he

1094
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: dusted all inside of a round. But Jay and I

1095
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 5: were very much in alignment on that. We felt like

1096
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez had to change his approach a little bit.

1097
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 5: And Dude, I just feel like, you know, I fly

1098
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: a lot of red eyes, I pull a lot of

1099
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 5: all nighters, like I feel like Diego Lopez and a

1100
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 5: lot of respects was walking in there like drunk driving,

1101
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 5: unders mentally, emotionally compromised, and I think it affected the

1102
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 5: way he would have approached a regular MMA contest.

1103
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll be honest here, I'm not sure I would

1104
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: have taken that fight if I was Diego Lopez at

1105
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: my stage of my career, just because I needed a

1106
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of time, or I wanted to have as much

1107
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: time as possible to analyze my opponent to figure out

1108
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: what the heck I was gonna do. I doesn't mean

1109
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna get it right, but it just it

1110
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: would make me feel better. And I think that because

1111
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: there's so much on the line there four hours, I

1112
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: don't care.

1113
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: Who it is. And you look at it, Diego Lopez

1114
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: is the more technical fighter, but.

1115
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: Dan Ega is extremely dangerous and we've seen him put

1116
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: guys out with one shot, a rare thing at one

1117
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pounds. So the fact that Diego

1118
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: Lopez just took the fight was impressive. The fact that

1119
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: he actually fought also in the proper way was brilliant

1120
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: as well.

1121
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: What did he do.

1122
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: He didn't go guns blazing like Jason was talking about.

1123
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: He usually does do that.

1124
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: What he did was he was kind of waiting for

1125
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: Ega and decided to play more of the counter striking role.

1126
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: I thought that was really smart.

1127
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Ega is as comfortable in that role

1128
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: when he's just kind of moving forward. IgA kind of

1129
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: likes to be the counter striker, so he decided to

1130
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: go second. And the other thing he did he was

1131
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: looking for those clinches and takedowns. So I thought it

1132
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: was really smart. Not that it was this ultra complicated

1133
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: game plan, but still the fact that he did this

1134
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: and had to do it within four hours, is pretty

1135
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: freaking impressive.

1136
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: Man, it's amazing.

1137
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 5: Well, you know, and in terms of the fight, IQ,

1138
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: we talk a lot about Diego Lopez's rise and his

1139
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 5: coaching and his circle and that Grosso circle, so you

1140
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 5: can be sure, whether it's twenty thirty minutes, that's a

1141
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 5: cerebral group to be able to make certain adjustments in

1142
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 5: that quick setting, I think. And when I ran into

1143
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez's manager, Jason House at the UFCAPEX on Friday morning,

1144
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 5: and granted they were up all night dealing with these circumstances,

1145
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: but at that point his head coach, Francisco Grosso, wasn't

1146
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: able to get a visa and wasn't in the country.

1147
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: He was able to get there in time for the fight.

1148
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: But congress to Diego Lopez, and we can't wait to

1149
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: congratulate Danygay and Eric Nexon coming up here in about

1150
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: twenty minutes. We'll get back to the UFC three oh

1151
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 5: three recap at about thirty seconds. But I did want

1152
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 5: to share a video with our Antik and Florian podcast

1153
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 5: audience because my twin brother Jay is in a little

1154
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 5: bit of a unique situation as the mono zygotic identical

1155
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: twin of a public figure. So UFC Fight Pass unleashed

1156
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: you at UFC X this weekend to have a little

1157
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: fun with fight fans, pretending loosely that you were me,

1158
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: and we're going to share that video with with our

1159
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 5: audience right here, right now.

1160
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: For some folks, I look a.

1161
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 12: Little bit like John Annick, who might be a well

1162
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 12: known broadcast. Nobody knows who I am. My name's Jason Annick.

1163
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 12: Everybody wants a picture with my twin. We're going with

1164
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 12: some people left, goes, do you think I'm John Anick?

1165
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 12: I'm his twin brother. Good, I'm serious. You want to

1166
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 12: sign it still, I'm not gonna get it. Hey, they

1167
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 12: don't need to know, No, they don't.

1168
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: We are here, why let's go.

1169
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 10: Hey?

1170
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: Is that your name? Yeah? John Anick?

1171
00:53:59,680 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: Do you know.

1172
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 6: Joseph following? He doesn't know why I am or John,

1173
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 6: but he wanted a picture because I have a media badge.

1174
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 12: Do you guys recognize met you?

1175
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: I get excited, you know.

1176
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 6: Joe, I'm not John, but good to meet you guys. Yeah,

1177
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 6: of course, do you know who I am?

1178
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 9: Or I'm Jason Thoms my brother.

1179
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 6: I'm not John Nick, are you the bigger brother?

1180
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: Or he got me by three minutes.

1181
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 6: He said he's never going to lose the first race

1182
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 6: of his life.

1183
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 5: I'm walking around right now with people pretending I'm John

1184
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: and you call me by my name.

1185
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 6: So much love to you. Thanks.

1186
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 5: What an experience for you with the UFC fan base

1187
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: at UFC X. Oh, I don't even know where to begin.

1188
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you say unique experience, just a mind fuck,

1189
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: you know. And when I walked out there that for

1190
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: the first time that I was actually able to hould

1191
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 5: my head up and try and sort of be seen.

1192
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 5: But what I will say is John and Kenny, I'm

1193
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: sure you where you all go in different countries, in

1194
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 5: different states, you are recognized to varying degrees. John talks Sometimes,

1195
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 5: whether it's Australia or England, there might be pockets John

1196
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: where it's quite a lot of people recognize him.

1197
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: But you drop this face.

1198
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 5: At the UFC X it is the big the most

1199
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 5: prime place on planet Earth for people to recognize this face.

1200
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: And so when I'm doing these shows, I get off

1201
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: the set and you know there's I'm there with pro

1202
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 5: Gonzales and other people that are that people want to see.

1203
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: But I one person comes up and it's like, hey,

1204
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: you know, just disappointing people pulling out my ID. It's

1205
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: a really unique experience. I appreciate it. A lot of

1206
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: love for John out there, but it's it's it's just crazy.

1207
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 5: I've talked about it so much.

1208
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm just stumbling over my words. I'd

1209
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 6: rather even talking about fights in the bus.

1210
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: There's been a huge change in the visibility of your brother, right,

1211
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: like the last couple of years. When did you say,

1212
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: when would you say it went from like oh this

1213
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: is different to like kind of crazy because it's pretty

1214
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: crazy right now.

1215
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 5: Well, it's a good question, and you know, much like

1216
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 5: when children grow, you live with them, so you see

1217
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 5: it gradually.

1218
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, has been gradual. It does feel.

1219
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: Different now, I guess, but I couldn't tell you when

1220
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 5: that now began, but it does feel something maybe within

1221
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 5: the last couple of years.

1222
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1223
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: But if he keeps running his mouth and saying dumb shit, Tom,

1224
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: you know, more people will know about him.

1225
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1226
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well I don't really want to talk about myself,

1227
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 5: but you know, certainly being put over by Joe Rogan

1228
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 5: I think has been something that has contributed to to

1229
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: uh to the profile increase a little bit, and I

1230
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: am obviously forever indebted for his support. But let us

1231
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 5: get back to the matter. Did play a TJ song? No,

1232
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 5: I guess we can get that at some point. Yeah,

1233
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 5: TJ DeSantis created some sort of raptis shout out. The

1234
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 5: TJ wrote lyrics to a song sort of about me

1235
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: being confused for John and I think the lyrics are

1236
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: very impressive. He I think AI put it to AI

1237
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: for the track. You know, I didn't love the vocal

1238
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: as much as I love the lyrics. We'll get that

1239
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: track before the end of the program, but I want

1240
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 5: to spin it back to UFC three to zero three.

1241
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 5: And Kenny, if I could ask you about the pay

1242
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 5: per view main card opener in Mashadow Gary over Michael

1243
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: venim Page unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty eight across

1244
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 5: the board, close fight came down to that third and

1245
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: final round. A lot to sort of unpack here when

1246
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: it comes to Mashadow. Gary's approach. Very tricky guy for

1247
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 5: Gary to fight, and Michael venim Page is now in

1248
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 5: the rear view mirror like the other fourteen opponents of Gary.

1249
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think that it was a fascinating fight

1250
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: in that we saw Ian have to drop around, come

1251
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: back and adjustin round three. I thought he had a

1252
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: great round one. He was lucky enough that he went

1253
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: against a guy in MVP who really didn't have much

1254
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: grappling skills to speak of. I think he made mistakes

1255
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: early and kind of often on the feet in round two,

1256
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: clearly a winning round for him.

1257
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: He's just a problem man.

1258
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: Yes, he's six foot three, the same height as he

1259
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: and Gary, but his reach vantage is significant and he's

1260
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: just a special striker. But you cannot compete at a

1261
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: high level and expect to do well if you don't

1262
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: have good grappling skills. And I would even say that,

1263
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, for Ian, Gary there were some problems. I

1264
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: think that we solve vulnerabilities in his striking a little bit.

1265
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Most people will be at the disadvantage of someone against MVP.

1266
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: But it was a little worrisome at times. I was

1267
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 1: nervous watching that one for Ian. Yeah, and then even

1268
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: I thought that Ian could have taken much better advantage

1269
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: of some of those grappling positions.

1270
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: I thought that was a done deal of a rear

1271
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: naked choking Round one or should have been.

1272
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't able to get it done there, but getting

1273
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: that experience on the ground, getting the control I think

1274
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: was huge for him.

1275
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: This should be This should provide some great lessons for

1276
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: Ian to elevate his game even more. And he got

1277
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 4: it done at the end of the day that you

1278
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: need to do.

1279
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: It's not always going to be pretty, but you got

1280
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: to get the wins against those very dangerous guys like

1281
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: the MVPs.

1282
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 5: He sent me a voice text and he is just

1283
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 5: absolutely killing himself. Can flow for not finishing that rear

1284
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: naked choke in round one? I'm wondering Kenny, if you know,

1285
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 5: just given our conversational history when you're watching this fighter,

1286
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 5: you thinking that I'm going to now ask you about

1287
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 5: submission offense right, because Gilbert Burns has Corneredy in the

1288
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 5: shadow Gary before he was talking him through some of

1289
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 5: the progressions after the fact. Even though Ian mishchadow, Gary

1290
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 5: said this week that he would fight Gilbert Burns if

1291
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 5: need be. I really think that's a unique and interesting situation.

1292
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 6: That's o right.

1293
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: But Damian Maya was in the corner, of course, your

1294
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: good friend. So what do you have for me on

1295
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 5: this rear naked choke and just a signature choke as

1296
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: a potential future part of Ian the Shadow Gary's arsenal

1297
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 5: because in this particular matchup right, those submission opportunities materialized

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Speaker 5: and for one reason or another, he was not able

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Speaker 5: to close the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was over complicating the issue. You know, sometimes

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: you think there's something you need to address and you

1302
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: actually don't need to. And he was trying to address

1303
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: the defensive hand the MVP as opposed to just punching

1304
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: that hand behind the neck and finishing it, like he

1305
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: was trying to address that other hand when there was

1306
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: no reason to even deal with that. If he punched

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: that hand behind the neck and expanded his chest and

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: pulled his elbows apart, it would have been an absolute

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: done deal. And even with one hand he was he

1310
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: was probably close to finishing it. You could see MVP

1311
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: was in trouble at certain point, but he was releasing

1312
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: it because he was so concerned with that other defensive

1313
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: hand of MVP and it just it was a non issue.

1314
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: And that that's just a little bit of an experience

1315
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: on the part of Ian Gary. And I'm sure he's

1316
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: gonna go right back to the you know, to the

1317
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: training room and get those things ironed out, whether it's

1318
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: with Olivera or Damian Maya or some of the other

1319
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: guys that he has at his disposal. Needs to continue

1320
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: to work on those aspects. But it showed that he

1321
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: is a multifaceted martial artist. He can get it done

1322
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: if he needs to. I thought he deserved the win,

1323
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: and I thought it was pretty clear or there, and

1324
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah, good PERFORMANCEP. I don't know if you have

1325
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: anything off.

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Speaker 6: I was going Damian Maya, all right.

1327
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 5: So in terms of this matchup with Michael Venom Page Kenny,

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 5: for a lot of these welterweight contenders, he's a really

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: tricky guy to fight. You hear Joe Rogan talk about

1330
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: the blitz and everything else, and uh, I guess for

1331
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: those that want to knock you in the shadow, Gary,

1332
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 5: for some of the bravado, I would just submit to you.

1333
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 6: And I said this on the postfight show.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: If they were trying to protect him, you don't give

1335
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 5: him Michael Venom Page right, Like, I'm not suggestive that

1336
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 5: they're protecting Shavcot Rockmnov, but there's no way they were

1337
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: going to do Rockmano of MVP. So the fact that

1338
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 5: Ian Mishadow Gary Kenny is able to get through this

1339
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: challenge and get the experience that comes with it, you know,

1340
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 5: I think is a really good sign because even though

1341
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 5: his next fight is probably going to be someone like

1342
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: Shapcott Rockmanov, who will be maybe favored to beat him.

1343
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 5: You know, there are parts of this Michael Venom Page

1344
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 5: challenge and matchup that are a real fucking pain in

1345
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 5: the ass.

1346
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 8: No.

1347
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, unless you're a high level grappler right and specialist

1348
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: in the top ten, you're not taking that fight against MVP. Okay,

1349
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of guys if they're gonna

1350
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: take MVP out of fourteen ranking. You know, when Ian

1351
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: mischade Ogary is number seven, he had a lot to

1352
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: lose in that fight. He is a very tricky guy

1353
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: to fight. MVP is going to have the speed advantage

1354
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: against every single person in that division. He's going to

1355
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: have the reach advantage against pretty much every single person

1356
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: in that division.

1357
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 4: So that was a very dangerous fight.

1358
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: And I agree with you at this point, you cannot

1359
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: say the UFC was trying to protect Ian Gary.

1360
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Speaker 5: Just fascinating watching MVP compete twice. For me, I was

1361
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 5: this man standing sideways. It's like, what the fuck do

1362
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 5: you do with that? And I love both of those guys.

1363
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 5: I don't care what anyone says about Ian Garrett, like

1364
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: I love both the human beings. I have both the

1365
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 5: fighters and the fight IQ for Ian Gary getting the dove.

1366
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: You know, these guys, guys that are on these championship tracks.

1367
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 5: I understand, Hey, MVP could have made some noise, maybe

1368
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 5: gotten in a title picture at thirty eight, but I

1369
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 5: and Gary with you know, I could argue two minutes

1370
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 5: left in the third round was in great chance of

1371
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 5: losing that fight, and he didn't lose that fight and

1372
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 5: got through that tough test, and I hope he keeps winning.

1373
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: And Kenny I just also have to say, and I

1374
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 5: don't even know if fans like hearing this, but I

1375
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: was just talking about my respect for these athletes always

1376
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 5: showing up at these fighter meetings, however high their profile is.

1377
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 5: And two other guys, man, you know, IAmA Shadow Garritt

1378
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 5: is so gracious with his time, and Michael Venom page

1379
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 5: and two Fighter meetings has given us so much of himself.

1380
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 5: I bet right that I have run out of time,

1381
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 5: or excuse me, run out of room on my fighter card,

1382
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 5: just so so beyond thoughtful with everything out of his mouth.

1383
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 6: So just wanted to echo my appreciation for that.

1384
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: So Kenny, as we spend it forward, we have populated

1385
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: the chat here privately with the walterweight rankings. I said

1386
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 5: on the post show with Balao Muhammad right a twenty

1387
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 5: six days baby, let's go. If Bala Muhammad is able

1388
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 5: to beat Leon Edwards, you're probably looking at a trilogy

1389
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 5: depending on exactly how that fight goes. That would not

1390
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 5: be a good result for the best of the rest

1391
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: of this welterweight division. Shavcott rock Mono number three in

1392
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 5: the world, Colby Covington four, Jack Dela Madalena injured, number five,

1393
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns number six. He will fight eighth rank Sean

1394
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 5: Brady and Ian Mashadowgary is number seven in the world.

1395
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 5: Can flow to me it's Shavcott rock Mona versus Ian

1396
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 5: Maschado Gary. I don't know if it's a UFC Fight

1397
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: Night headliner in Dublin, Ireland. I don't know if this

1398
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: is a co main event on a pay per view,

1399
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 5: but that is the fight, a welterweight title eliminator, and

1400
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 5: I think for Shavcott and Ian Gary. Whoever wins that

1401
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 5: matchup for me, would challenge the winner of Leon Edwards

1402
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: and Bala Muhammad.

1403
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 6: What do you think about that progression moving forward at welterweight.

1404
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a very interesting fight, a difficult

1405
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: fight really for both guys. I think that, first of all,

1406
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: Rockmanoff is a very dangerous striker because of his power,

1407
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: but he is no MVP, and I think that Ian

1408
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: Gary would look a lot better on the feet against

1409
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: someone like Shofcott Rockmanoff. I don't think Ian Gary is

1410
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna be able to take down someone like rock Monoff.

1411
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: I think we'll see more of his defensive wrestling skills,

1412
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: which I think is far better for Ian Gary. So

1413
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: a totally different fight here against a guy who is

1414
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: way higher ranked than Michael Page. But I still I

1415
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of those I like the odds there

1416
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: for Ian mischad O'gary because he does smart, he does

1417
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: fight pretty smart, and I.

1418
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: Think that Rockmanoff does have some vulnerabilities.

1419
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: However, rock Monoff does have more weapons, I think, just

1420
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: because of his offensive wrestling and certainly has a very competent,

1421
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: if not dangerous striking game.

1422
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: So I think that's a phenomenal fight. That's a big one.

1423
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 5: Kenny, I am going to ask you for a one

1424
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 5: or two word answer here. Okay, I'll give you one bitcoin.

1425
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 5: I don't actually have a bitcoin to give you. I

1426
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: think like one point five eight bitcoins. I think it

1427
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 5: went below sixty thousand dollars over the weekend. Kenny, I'm

1428
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 5: gonna name four guys right now. You can hesitate a

1429
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: little bit. I'm gonna name four guys. You're gonna tell

1430
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 5: me which guy is most likely to become the undisputed

1431
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 5: UFC welterweight champion. Okay, Okay, Shavkott rothmanov Ian Maschado, Gary

1432
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 5: Jack Della, Mattelena, Sean Brady Obviously, Blal has the championship

1433
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: opportunity here in less than a month. The four names

1434
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 5: I just mentioned, a lot of those guys potentially gonna

1435
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: show up in each other's bracket before they get a

1436
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 5: title fight.

1437
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 6: Who is most likely to be the world champion?

1438
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'd be leaning towards Jack Dyla Madelena. Yeah, be honest.

1439
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: His performance against Burns was impressive. That's kind of a guy.

1440
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 4: He's just a little bit He's got a little bit

1441
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 4: of that.

1442
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 6: Uh, extra feel interesting? Interesting?

1443
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: All right, I want to get to some other fights

1444
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 5: on pay per view before we are joined here in

1445
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 5: a few minutes by Dan Egay and Eric Nick six.

1446
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 5: So Macy Schasson with an elbow to open up my

1447
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: eata bueno silva. And one thing, you know, if there

1448
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 5: is a huge cut due to an elbow, it's ending

1449
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 5: up in Kenflow's Instagram story. So, uh, gosh, thankfully the

1450
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 5: doctor you know, finally gained enough confidence to tell Chris

1451
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 5: Tonnoni that the cut was too deep, and then Chris

1452
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 5: stopped the fight. You know, there was a lot of

1453
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 5: trepidation and hesitation there can flow, but uh, you know,

1454
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 5: I feel like for a cut like that, a fight

1455
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 5: should absolutely be stopped.

1456
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 6: Uh. And it was there in uh in round two.

1457
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: In retrospect, the fact that I cut as many people

1458
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: as I did, that that was not cool. That was

1459
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: that was not nice at all seeing that cut. Dude,

1460
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: It's savage. That was a nasty, nasty cut. And this

1461
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: is the power of elbows. And yes, you know you

1462
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: have it stopping powers just based on you know the

1463
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: fact that it's rattling your brain. But these cuts are

1464
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: just so damaging and that one was absolutely justified. You know,

1465
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I had picked Maita Bueno Silva. When I saw the

1466
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: actual cut, I said, no, no, no, no, they need

1467
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: to stop this. Yeah, this is not safe. That was

1468
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: extremely deep. It was just beautifully placed by Chasson and

1469
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: the way that she did it. It's your elbow. Your

1470
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: arm needs to be very loose. You don't want to

1471
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: be tight with it, and she just boom, just cracked it,

1472
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: got her weight behind it, and that was that. Man,

1473
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: just what a performance there that that was nice stuff.

1474
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed that fight in that first round, and

1475
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 5: Shasson impressed me thoroughly. Right, Myra Bueno Silva was great

1476
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 5: in round one, was powerful. Shasson defended all three of

1477
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 5: those takedowns and then beginning a round two, gets her

1478
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 5: own takedown smashed. And did anyone catch the camera on

1479
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 5: her face after she opened her up? I mean this

1480
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 5: evil grin because she knew she was wide open. But

1481
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: I will say, Kenny, I did see Dean Thomas this

1482
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 5: weekend and we were talking to some people, and I

1483
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: reminded people how Dean grew out his fro when he

1484
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 5: fought and lost to Kenny Florian to protect his head

1485
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: from those elbows. Yeah, it's interesting for us to get

1486
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 5: to watch an athlete like Macy Schasson stare retirement in

1487
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 5: the face and then persevere through that.

1488
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 6: You may have heard me say on the broadcast.

1489
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 5: She went to Safe Saoud I think after the Rain

1490
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: Al Donna fight in twenty twenty two, and was like,

1491
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to retire from MMA, and he laughed in

1492
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 5: her face because he just feels like there's a lot

1493
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 5: of dog in there, you know. And she committed to

1494
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 5: nutrition and wasn't necessarily going to fight again, and now

1495
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 5: she has two finishes here in twenty twenty four, she's

1496
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 5: going to be in the top three. Daniel Cormier and

1497
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 5: I were voicing EA Sports UFC five and we would

1498
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 5: do it in different cities, and one time we found

1499
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 5: ourselves in Dallas and we went to a practice at

1500
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 5: Fordis's MMA as she was getting ready for a rein

1501
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 5: Al Donna, and just body complexion was totally different, right,

1502
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 5: like a muscle mass, her body fat percentage. She's got

1503
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 5: a really interesting frame for this division. And Kenny I

1504
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 5: did have in my notes the loose toss of the elbows, right,

1505
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 5: So Marloncho reached out to Ken flow years ago about

1506
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 5: affecting the elbows and Kenny, it is amazing how many

1507
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 5: men and women abandoned the elbow as a weapon, and

1508
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 5: then those that do they throw it too tight right

1509
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 5: like a jab when they well jab, you should be

1510
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 5: actually loose as well.

1511
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 3: Any of that?

1512
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 6: Can you explain it?

1513
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: Huh?

1514
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1515
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 4: Please, beautiful man, look at John. This is why he's

1516
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 4: the best of the game. Dude, The dude just preps.

1517
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, absolutely, and Macy did exactly that, and you

1518
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: could do it in a variety of positions, whether it's

1519
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: on your back, on top, on the feet. I still

1520
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: think it is a vastly underutilized weapon that I think

1521
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: we'll see more people use over time. And that was

1522
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: a very close fight until that cut, So really good

1523
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: stuff there from Chessah.

1524
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 6: Cody's telling me that Big John McCarthy said, because the

1525
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 6: cut was horizontal, it should have been stopped and that

1526
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 6: is why that's what it shouldn't have been stopped.

1527
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 5: Excuse me? Wow, Well, Big John Arthy for me is

1528
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 5: I mean, is the number one mm a resource? But

1529
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 5: I would respect disagree because it went all the way

1530
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 5: down to the bone. And I just feel like, Kenny,

1531
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 5: you take another shot on there. I mean it's not

1532
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 5: you don't stop it in the in the name of vanity,

1533
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 5: But dude like POTENTI let him go. Yeah, No, absolutely,

1534
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,879
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, what about the risk of infection?

1535
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 5: These are things that we can forget.

1536
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen people with little scratches.

1537
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: I had a little scratch on my knee that turned

1538
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: out into a nasty staff infection that you know, had

1539
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: me in the hospital, had surgery.

1540
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: All that stuff like that was a nasty cut.

1541
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: And when you have an area that is so close

1542
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: to very vulnerable spots on the body, the eyes, the head,

1543
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: all that stuff, the brain, you know, you do not

1544
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: want to have an infection in there.

1545
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 4: You know there's a lot of dirty stuff flying around

1546
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 4: in there. That was just way too deep.

1547
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: I get it just because, Okay, the vertical cuts tend

1548
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: to bleed more into the eyes and do things like that,

1549
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: which inhibits the fighter fighter's ability to see and stuff

1550
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: like that.

1551
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 4: But I couldn't agree more John, that was way too

1552
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: deep of a cut to let them You just can't

1553
01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: do it.

1554
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: At least though John McCarthy has the information right, and

1555
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 5: that's what you want is to have all the officials, judges, referees,

1556
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 5: doctors to all be on the same page and then

1557
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 5: to not worry. I'm telling you there's some ringside physicians

1558
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 5: that would have walked in there, seen that cut and

1559
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 5: stop the fight immediately.

1560
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1561
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, and someone I don't remember

1562
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 5: who was, but said, had it been closer to the

1563
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: end of the round and a cutman could work on it,

1564
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 5: potentially would.

1565
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 6: That effect that Kenny I don't even know.

1566
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, well, now joining us on this year

1567
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 5: live edition of the Attic and Florian podcast, a man who.

1568
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 6: Has a lot of hardware, I would think piling up.

1569
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 5: With these Coaches of the Year awards, and now we

1570
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 5: got even more star power in the building. The head

1571
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 5: coach of Extreme Coach are Eric Nixic and the absolute

1572
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 5: savage and featherweight contender who is finally getting all the

1573
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 5: shine that he really deserved in my mind for the

1574
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 5: last three or four years, Dynamit Dan Egay, fifty K

1575
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call him, Dan, Eric, appreciate you fellas.

1576
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 6: How we doing?

1577
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 5: What?

1578
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: What up?

1579
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 9: Boys?

1580
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: What's up?

1581
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 6: Boys?

1582
01:12:59,400 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 8: So?

1583
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 6: Dan, I don't even know where to begin.

1584
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you had the ultimate respect of your contemporaries,

1585
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 5: your fellow fighters before you made this decision. But congratulations

1586
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 5: on a huge weekend. I know you've sort of been

1587
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 5: positioning yourself for big opportunities and trying to stay ready.

1588
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 5: But I guess if I could have you take us

1589
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 5: back to Friday night. You know, Brian Ortega not necessarily

1590
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 5: a guy who leads the league in reliability. I mean,

1591
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 5: when you go to bed Friday night, are you thinking

1592
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 5: there's a chance that you're competing Saturday at that point

1593
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 5: in time?

1594
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 13: Absolutely not at all. I mean I was just going

1595
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 13: about my week, you know, Friday night, I I don't

1596
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 13: even know what I did.

1597
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 9: Friday.

1598
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 13: I had trade and conditioning. I had had a hard

1599
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 13: grappling Friday Friday evening. And then Saturday morning, I woke up,

1600
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 13: I saw the news about you know, the weight changing

1601
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 13: all that, and I was like, man, cort Diego. I

1602
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 13: just felt bad because just all the hoops you got

1603
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 13: to go through, and I was like, good for him,

1604
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 13: you know, he's still fighting, and I was, I mean

1605
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 13: at the time, right, so I was happy that that

1606
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 13: fight was still happening.

1607
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 9: And I Saturday morning, I woke up just to do

1608
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 9: my normal Saturday routine. Eat breakfast, you know, go to

1609
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 9: the gym.

1610
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 13: I had some I was getting ready for a fight

1611
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 13: three weeks uh right, three weeks from Saturday. So I

1612
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 13: was doing some heat acclimation training. They have like a

1613
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 13: hot tent at the UFCPI. So I'm in there riding

1614
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 13: bike thirty minutes, jumping the sauna another thirty minutes, and

1615
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 13: then just some red light therapiece of recovery. And I

1616
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 13: go home and I'm just you know, resting and recovery

1617
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 13: until you know, until Monday. Basically that's that's where my

1618
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 13: mind's I got an hour and a half deep tissue

1619
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 13: massage and I woke up to like literally ten missed calls.

1620
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 6: Unbelievable, unbelievable.

1621
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 5: So you competed really well, and I know you were

1622
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 5: really happy with your performance. But you know, Ali abdella

1623
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 5: Zaz is texting me as I'm on the air that

1624
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 5: he's driving one hundred and ten miles an hour to

1625
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 5: get you to the venue, Like you are so forged

1626
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 5: mentally as an individual. Well, but what is going through

1627
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 5: your mind as you're heading to headline or co headline

1628
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: International flight Week twenty twenty four on a few hours notice.

1629
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he said.

1630
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 13: He's like, just don't let all the drive. So I

1631
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 13: took the wheel. I took the wheel. Yeah, he came

1632
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 13: to my house. He rolled up, but I means, let's

1633
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 13: start from the beginning.

1634
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 9: They get me.

1635
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 13: I get the call and I don't even know if

1636
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 13: this is actually possible. I was like, yeah, I'll do it,

1637
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 13: like there was not even all. He's like, bro, he's

1638
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 13: not even my manager. He's like, bro, we could get

1639
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 13: a deal done right now. I was like, yeah, go,

1640
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 13: you know, handle your business.

1641
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: You know, let's do it.

1642
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 9: So he calls me back, Dude, you.

1643
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 13: Should look at my call log, Like literally every five minutes,

1644
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 13: I'm getting in a call and then I'm calling he hey,

1645
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 13: we might be fighting tonight. And then all he calls

1646
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 13: me back, He's like, brother, get your bag righty. I'm like,

1647
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 13: so I'm running around my house like frantically, I'm.

1648
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: Like, what do I need?

1649
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: What do I need?

1650
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 13: Cut mouthe's cut mouth piece and I'm like, he are

1651
01:15:59,439 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 13: you by the jam?

1652
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: Grab?

1653
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 9: Can you grab my cup?

1654
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 13: And then he's like, my I don't know if it's big,

1655
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 13: you know, I don't know if it's gonna actually fit you.

1656
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 9: F's those nuts? Well yeah, we just they they asked me,

1657
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 9: They're like, what do you wear?

1658
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 13: I was like, well, I woke up at like one

1659
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 13: sixty four sixty five, you know, that's kind of what

1660
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 13: I walk around three weeks out and I didn't know

1661
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 13: I had to actually weigh in, so I and like,

1662
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 13: they take me straight this VIP room.

1663
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 9: I was like, oh, it's up, jelly roll.

1664
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 13: Hunter, Dana like all these people, you're the man. And

1665
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 13: then they take me to Kale, like all right, they

1666
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 13: had the whole official commission. That was the biggest thing, right,

1667
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 13: was the commission. So that's why you saw that text.

1668
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 13: They're like all these hey text them tell I needed

1669
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 13: a text hunter. That's that you're in the best shape

1670
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 13: of your life. And you know, because it's they had

1671
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 13: to get the Governor of Nevada is like official approval

1672
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 13: for that. There's a lot a lot of shit that

1673
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 13: actually went down to get this fight to happen. So

1674
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 13: I get the contract. I'm signing it.

1675
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know it.

1676
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 13: Even said one sixty five because that's just the way

1677
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 13: I told him. So they're like, all right, step on

1678
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 13: the scale was like, oh wait, can I is this official?

1679
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 13: Let me go use the bathrooms I go to I

1680
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 13: took like a two minute piss cause, oh my god,

1681
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 13: right before the venue, I was like, I better get

1682
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 13: hydra if I'm gonna fight, because.

1683
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 6: I'm like the ilievable.

1684
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 13: So I take this come back step on the scale

1685
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 13: of boom one sixty sixty four and a half.

1686
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 9: I'm like, all right, We're good.

1687
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 13: Uh And then yeah, you guys announced it on the

1688
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 13: broadcast and fucking then we fought Dan.

1689
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 4: Ray long Will asked me a question earlier.

1690
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: He asked me, who do you think had the advantage

1691
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: heading into this, you know, taking this fight on four hours?

1692
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 13: Note?

1693
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 4: You know, was it Jigo or was it Dan? I

1694
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, it's crazy. You know better than

1695
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: I do. Your situation. How did you see that? Did

1696
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 4: Did you have a bigger kind of advantage heading into that?

1697
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: Dude?

1698
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 13: There's so many variables, like I can't even map. I

1699
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 13: give Diego so much credit, and I like, I felt

1700
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 13: like I got a lot of you know, notoriety and praise, dude,

1701
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 13: and you took the fight on four our. I just

1702
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 13: fucking I go to the jail fight every Tuesday. That

1703
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 13: was super fucking me up. The last we should have

1704
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 13: seen my face like the week before. So I give

1705
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 13: Diego a ton of praise and credit because cutting weight,

1706
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 13: like that's I'll fight in four hours. Notice I ain't cutting.

1707
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1708
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 13: This dude cut weight, rehydrated, lost his opponent, fights a

1709
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 13: new guy, like I give him so much praise, but

1710
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 13: there's so many variables you can't say, you know, we

1711
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 13: would have had a better performance, if you know what

1712
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 13: I mean. So yeah, but that just showing up in

1713
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 13: fighting like there there's no game plan, you know. I

1714
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 13: was even you could try to put together a game

1715
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 13: plan real quick, but I was like, you know what,

1716
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 13: I'm just gonna let instinct and survival and my training

1717
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 13: that I've trained my whole life.

1718
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 9: I'm going to let that take over. And who knows.

1719
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 9: Who knows how the fight would go?

1720
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 13: Right if we both had the same amount of time,

1721
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 13: we both cut to on forty five forty five, you know,

1722
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 13: like him and I weighed very similarly, but it's not

1723
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 13: like three pounds makes that big of a difference, but

1724
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 13: cutting weight does, so.

1725
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 9: You never know, you know, with a full campy, I

1726
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 9: have a mastermind behind my guess.

1727
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask because like you know,

1728
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: and Eric, I know he's got a ROLLERDECKX of fighters

1729
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: and fighters styles and what they do and all that stuff,

1730
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: just because he's always around the sport. But you kind

1731
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: of answered my question. But what did the game planning

1732
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: actually look like? Was it, Hey, Dan, just go out

1733
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: and do your thing. Do you over complicate it and.

1734
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 4: Give them a bunch of instructions? Eric like, I don't know.

1735
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 4: I get you. You could both answer, but I'm just

1736
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 4: curious on what on four hours?

1737
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 11: I mean, we just had the mentality, if somebody broke

1738
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 11: in your house, you're gonna fight. That's exactly what I

1739
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 11: told him. I said, bro, if somebody broke in the house,

1740
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 11: it was trying to arm Savannah and Bam and Max.

1741
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 11: You're gonna fight on instincts. Is You're not gonna have

1742
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 11: a game plan. We're gonna scrap.

1743
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 6: And that's just that.

1744
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 11: So But to be to be honest with you, I've

1745
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 11: been having a little bit of a sleepless nights because

1746
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 11: I fucked up going in around in round two, I

1747
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 11: called for the same side headkick, something that I thought

1748
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 11: because no one's ever seen Dan throw it, and I

1749
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 11: knew we had an ace in our hole, like ace

1750
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 11: in our pocket where it's like, dude, he throws the

1751
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 11: same side high out of Southpaw very very well. And

1752
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 11: I'm like in my in my roller decks of the ship,

1753
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 11: I'm like, what have we what haven't we ever shown

1754
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 11: that no one's gonna know that we have? And it

1755
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 11: was the same side high and damn the South Paul

1756
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 11: and he threw it and the shin bone landed on

1757
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 11: this dude's head. But we got taken down and I

1758
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 11: looked over at Kyle and I'm like, oh, I just

1759
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 11: fucked us.

1760
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 9: My dude, my gut. I was like, I just I

1761
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 9: just fucked this man. My heart hurt. So I got

1762
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 9: in the corner going around there. I was like, oh's

1763
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 9: my bad.

1764
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: It was like landed.

1765
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 9: I mean we're just trying to come up with new tricks.

1766
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 11: I mean things that we do outside of camp, Like

1767
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 11: you know, Kenny, We're always trying to come up with

1768
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 11: new things to evolve and be better that we might

1769
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 11: not have shown in other fights. Yes, and do Like

1770
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 11: in my mind, in the in the fantasy world that

1771
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 11: I live in, I was like, this is this is

1772
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 11: the magic moment where he's gonna throw the same side

1773
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 11: high that we were working on for so long, We're

1774
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 11: gonna knock this dude out.

1775
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, well, Dan, I know you're gonna

1776
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 5: be talking all day and I could probably ask you

1777
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 5: a hundred questions about the fight. I mean, there's so

1778
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 5: much to it, like you said, variables literally hours. But

1779
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 5: so I'm just curious. Put me inside your house, like

1780
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 5: what did you say to your wife? What was that conversation?

1781
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 5: Like what was the look in her eye when you're

1782
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 5: like see in a few hours, like not going to

1783
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 5: be here for dinner.

1784
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I.

1785
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 13: Mean it's funny because Ali called her, She called A

1786
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 13: called my mom. Ali called hi, my wife, and she's like,

1787
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 13: why is all Lee calling me? And then uh, there's

1788
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 13: like the little siren emoji alert like she's like, it's

1789
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 13: an emergency call. Or Savannah was telling me, I'll least

1790
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 13: saying call him it's an emergency. I'm like, oh, it's stupid.

1791
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 13: Just wants like like a banking voice or something. I'll

1792
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 13: deal with it after and then anyways, yeah, she's like

1793
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 13: he's calling again right now, So I answer it, and uh,

1794
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 13: this is all happening.

1795
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 9: I'm looking at her, she's looking at me.

1796
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: I started throwing numbers.

1797
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 9: I'm like, right, yeah, I don't know.

1798
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 13: There was no I don't there wasn't hesitation because you know,

1799
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 13: a lot of people will be like, you know, I

1800
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 13: would do that for a million dollars, right, You can

1801
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 13: easily negotiate yourself out of an opportunity. I saw this

1802
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 13: as an opportunity to again, you know, become a legend,

1803
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 13: to do something great, you know, to go in there.

1804
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 13: You know, I visualize myself winning, to go in there,

1805
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 13: save the car, become victorious. Even though I lost, like

1806
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 13: I do, feel I won in a way. You know,

1807
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 13: you want some I want something that no money can buy.

1808
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 13: So of course I got paid. I got good money.

1809
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 13: But I didn't I didn't go in there and asked

1810
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 13: for millions of dollars. And I just I dreamed of

1811
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 13: an opportunity like this. I didn't know it would come

1812
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 13: in this form. Yeah, but I dreamed of an opportunity.

1813
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 13: And I've been thinking of dude, no knockout of you know,

1814
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 13: knocking out Andrea Feli and Apex.

1815
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 9: No one talks about that.

1816
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 13: They talked about it for that, you know that that

1817
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 13: week and the day after, but no, people forget about that.

1818
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 9: People aren't gonna fige it about this. So that's what

1819
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 9: we said.

1820
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 11: We said, like the answering the call by many was legendary,

1821
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 11: but not by our standard. That's zactly why I told him.

1822
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 11: I said, what's going to be legendaries when you win

1823
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 11: this fight?

1824
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 4: We're not.

1825
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 9: We're not here to just just to like, you know,

1826
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 9: partake right, We're here for the takeover.

1827
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 11: That was our mentality, was like, dude, just showing up

1828
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 11: and weighing in and doing all this stuff is not

1829
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 11: what we're destined for us.

1830
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 9: We're destined to get a win. That's what's going to

1831
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 9: make it legendary.

1832
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 4: I love it.

1833
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 5: Is this the twenty first fight that your cornered him

1834
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 5: Eric or twenty twenty unbelieved twenty fights? Bam Egay's dad.

1835
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see Bam in like ten years

1836
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 5: when I'm like all wrinkled and like sixty and like, Bam, dude,

1837
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 5: your dad you FC three ZHO three. So I'm watching

1838
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 5: like the I on the back of Sean Strickland's EGA

1839
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 5: fight kit falling off when you think about all the

1840
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 5: different things that had to come together for this fight

1841
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 5: to actually materialize. But Dan, you know, you're such a

1842
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 5: classy guy, and you are exceedingly articulate, and as people

1843
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 5: are seeing today, you have comedic value as well. There's

1844
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 5: a lot of things you can do in mixed martial

1845
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 5: arts ten twenty years down the line when you're not fighting,

1846
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 5: if you want to do TV and all those things.

1847
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 5: But in terms of your career and your reference to

1848
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 5: dreaming of an opportunity like this, this now opens up

1849
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 5: a world of possibilities for you. I mean, certainly every

1850
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 5: fighter on the roster wants to fight at the sphere,

1851
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 5: you can certainly do that. But as you do spin

1852
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 5: this forward, it's not gonna be Chepe modescal here in

1853
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 5: nineteen days on July twentieth.

1854
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: So what do you think this?

1855
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 2: Actually?

1856
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, go ahead ahead, No, I mean, hey, I

1857
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 5: just feel like this Note Chase show. It has like

1858
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 5: four times the budget of like a McGregor pay per view.

1859
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 5: So you put yourself in position to compete on a

1860
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 5: uniquely special live event I'd love to see July twentieth.

1861
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 5: But the world's kind of your oyster right now, So

1862
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: I'm wondering, you know what your mentality is. I know

1863
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 5: you're enjoying the fruits right now, but what do you

1864
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 5: think is going to happen over the next several months.

1865
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean strategically that sphere again, It's that's going

1866
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 13: to be a show and opportunity of a lifetime. I

1867
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 13: don't know if it'll ever be done again, and just

1868
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 13: the uniqueness of it and it being in Vegas, I

1869
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 13: would love to fight there. Well, like you said, the

1870
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 13: world's my oyster. I'm strategically I could take a little

1871
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 13: time to rest, let my body heal and recover and

1872
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 13: start preparing for that. Mentally, they may call me four

1873
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 13: hours before, you never know, but I you know, the

1874
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 13: company is very happy right now.

1875
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 9: Everyone's on myself, They're supporting me.

1876
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 13: So I'm happy where I'm at. Just signed a new

1877
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 13: deal with the UFC. I'm stoked. You know, I'm living

1878
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 13: my dream. So I'm just gonna get back in the gyms,

1879
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 13: tune as my body is completely healed and recovered, and

1880
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 13: start getting back to work, and we'll see what opportunity

1881
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 13: you know, arises in and.

1882
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 9: I'll be ready.

1883
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: You know that.

1884
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 5: Well it sounds tripe, but this is just good thing

1885
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 5: happening to like good human beings. Can you just give

1886
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 5: me a second for just ask Eric something?

1887
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 6: Just hours at the camp. Yeah right, they've been here

1888
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 6: for fifteen minutes.

1889
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 5: So I just want to get you guys out of

1890
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 5: here on this and again, we appreciate the time everybody.

1891
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go journalists on you for a second, Eric,

1892
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 5: and I just want to ask you a question. Right,

1893
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,919
Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting that this situation sets up bad precedent

1894
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 5: per se. But if I'm like a featherweight contender showing

1895
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 5: up to Vegas to fight at the Apex or fight

1896
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 5: on pay per view, I'm like, fuck man Egays there,

1897
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 5: you know, like this dude's gonna step off, and like

1898
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 5: I might be Diego Lopez dealing with all these circumcis.

1899
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 5: I know, Diego Lopez had the opportunity to take the

1900
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 5: money and run and not compete, you know, but like

1901
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 5: as great as this situation is, these are two of

1902
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 5: the best featherweights in the world, and these careers have

1903
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 5: a delicacy to them that if if Danny Gay knocks

1904
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez the fuck out because the kid hasn't slept

1905
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 5: in thirty six hours because of all these circumstances, then

1906
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that this in totality is a good thing.

1907
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean like Dan said earlier, no credits Diego

1908
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 11: and his team because that guy was really on the

1909
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 11: roller coaster of emotions, especially with cutting that weight, getting

1910
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 11: you down to forty five and then tell them to

1911
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 11: rehydrate to get back up, and a lot of people

1912
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 11: don't understand this.

1913
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 9: The rehydration is a tricky spot to be in as well.

1914
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 11: People don't really understand that the rehydration is it's just

1915
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:01,879
Speaker 11: as important as the weight cut.

1916
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 9: And you can you can really screw that part of

1917
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 9: it up.

1918
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 11: So you know, I know Jason on his team over

1919
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 11: there does a great job with his weight cut, not

1920
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 11: only the weight cut, the rehydration, the emotions that go

1921
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 11: up and down with the guy after the fight. I've

1922
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 11: never seen Dan like this. He was literally shivering, you know,

1923
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 11: like yo, you cold and no, it was this adrenaline.

1924
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 11: This kid's probably been peeing brown soup for the.

1925
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: Last few days.

1926
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 9: What's been going on? Right, So all credit to Diego

1927
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 9: and his team. You know that everybody was prepared.

1928
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 11: And it's such a cliche thing to say, right like, oh,

1929
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 11: I'm ready to go, blah blah blah blah blah, but

1930
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 11: are you are you ready to go?

1931
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 9: I got a phone call from Jeff Mullen.

1932
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 11: Right after I hung up the phone with Dan, the

1933
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 11: head of the Athletic Commission, and he said, Eric, I've

1934
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 11: known you for X amount of years. I trust your opinion.

1935
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 11: Is your fighter ready to go? I said, Jeff, there's

1936
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 11: no one on the planet that I put in this position.

1937
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 11: And I would never put my guy Danny gave any

1938
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 11: in harm's way ever. But if there's anybody that's prepared

1939
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 11: for this situation, it's Dan. I can't tell you how

1940
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 11: many times this dude's told me stuff like during the week, like, hey,

1941
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 11: we be ready, I might fight this guy. Like no,

1942
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 11: you're not, Like he's just just conjuring up shit in

1943
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 11: his head or whatever. And I'm telling you this, it's

1944
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 11: all I mean, it really comes from his dad.

1945
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 9: I guarantee you.

1946
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's prepared for every fucking moment and every little

1947
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 11: thing possible. So as a coach, you're okay with these

1948
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 11: situations because this is this is what makes him who

1949
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 11: he is. Right, trains for this ship every day. I'm

1950
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 11: not exaggerating. And we have a group of guys, the

1951
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 11: guys that we all blow our faces out. The group

1952
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 11: of guys will be the guys that will pick up

1953
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 11: the phone whether you're fighting. Kai Kamaka be on the

1954
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 11: corner of Silverado Ranch in Las Vegas Boulevard in thirty

1955
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 11: minutes and I hung up the fucking phone.

1956
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 9: That's how that shit went down. Hey, Sean Strickling, I

1957
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 9: need you at the arena and Naur be there. I'll

1958
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 9: be there. Hung up the phone.

1959
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 6: That's how this shit went down.

1960
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 5: Yes, well, I just want to say real quick about

1961
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 5: Danny Gay Right. There are a lot of people that

1962
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 5: are like, look at me stars in this business, right

1963
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 5: and you we are the opposite of that. And I've

1964
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 5: met a lot of unbelievable people in this business, and

1965
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 5: we have two of the finest here. So for you, Dan,

1966
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 5: I'm so happy that you were gonna that your fan

1967
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 5: base is gonna grow in this type of way, and

1968
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 5: the I that the increasing eyeballs on you because you

1969
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 5: deserve it and they're gonna love what they see. So congratulations, man,

1970
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 5: Like I can't tell you how good you look physically mentally?

1971
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, well fucking done.

1972
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1973
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 9: Where's our boy Brito at.

1974
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 3: Now?

1975
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 13: Right?

1976
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 5: Right?

1977
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 6: Exactly? No that curls out.

1978
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 9: And gets a fightery book, My man's four No.

1979
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 5: I found myself there as Dan's getting a standing ovation

1980
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 5: at Te Mobile Arena following Diego Lopez's post fight interview

1981
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 5: that the Apex Predator is now you know the bell

1982
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 5: of the ball right in the center of Te Mobile Arena.

1983
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it sounds like we're down on

1984
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: our knees, but you just deserve this, and uh, we

1985
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 5: congratulate you on that.

1986
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 6: I hope it's the sphere.

1987
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 5: I love Chefe Modescal, but a huge career opportunity for

1988
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 5: him probably goes away here. Uh, we're gonna try to.

1989
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 6: Get this go ahead, Dan.

1990
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 9: No, he's Mexican, so you never know.

1991
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 6: There you go, there you go.

1992
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 5: And if you know Dan Egay, you know that he's

1993
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 5: not gonna turn down fighters that are ranked below him potentially.

1994
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 5: But congratulations, let's get that Dan e Gay Instagram over

1995
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty thousand today it's at Dynamite Dan

1996
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 5: eight to oh eight. And if you want to follow

1997
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,839
Speaker 5: the coach who just looks out standing in the Celtics

1998
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 5: Championship Green, it is at Eric Underscore xc MMA and Eric,

1999
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 5: I'll just say, you know, I brought you one more

2000
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 5: sleep double XL right here. And this went all the

2001
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 5: way to soud. It's got your fucking name on it

2002
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 5: right there, nixt But dude, this thing went all the

2003
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 5: way to Saudi Arabia, to Vegas and everywhere else. We're

2004
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,440
Speaker 5: going to send Extreme Co Tour package of merchandise. Congratulations

2005
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 5: fellas on a big weekend and have a great week.

2006
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 5: We'll talk to you soon.

2007
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 9: Hey, go out from our boy due Mizula. You just

2008
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 9: have surgery and a We just got off the phone

2009
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 9: with Joe, so Joe's out there doing work. Man, shout

2010
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 9: out for our boy.

2011
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 6: Congratulations, Thank you bday too, Joe.

2012
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thank you guys, Dan especially, really appreciate you

2013
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 5: guys making the time.

2014
01:31:59,080 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 4: Have a good day.

2015
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 6: Okay, you're the man. Love you go to your boys.

2016
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 6: Danny Gay, Eric Nixick with us here on the Anak

2017
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 6: and Florian podcast. Just incredible, man, just incredible, unbelievable.

2018
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 5: So when we went to Vancouver, I believe it was

2019
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 5: last year, our room was not ready and we went

2020
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 5: into Nixic's and Egay's.

2021
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 6: Room just to hang out a little bit.

2022
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 5: But while our room was being getting ready and Egay

2023
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 5: was there and we were talking short about his family

2024
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 5: not being there and just the energy for him sort

2025
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 5: of not having his family there. John has strong opinions

2026
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 5: about fighters bringing their family sometimes. But the windows were open,

2027
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 5: no rain that day in Vancouver. It was a beautiful day,

2028
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 5: and a couple bugs were getting in, flies were getting in,

2029
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 5: you know, and Eric and John we're all running our mouth.

2030
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,560
Speaker 5: Dan's quiet. It went in his Vancouver Grizzlies jersey, and

2031
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 5: these flies are coming in the room and Dan's just

2032
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 5: fuck grabbing the I'm trying. I'm trying, and I'm like,

2033
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna try and just let Dan do it. Yeah,

2034
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 5: and then he's so you know, he'll take like five

2035
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 5: minutes and then first try.

2036
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 6: Oh, it was unbelievable.

2037
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, the son of the Navy seal catching flies with

2038
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 5: just dance while you were like accidentally like.

2039
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 6: Micro dosing on mushrooms or something. Right anyway, But one

2040
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 6: more final thing, right when Diego Lopez lost to Ivloyev,

2041
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 6: it was like, wow, how can you win and lose? Well,

2042
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 6: Ega just pumped him by losing a great point right there.

2043
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 5: All right, congratulations to Daddy Gay and Diego Lopez on

2044
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 5: making UFC history over the weekend. So Ken Flow a

2045
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 5: few other things on UFC three toh three if I could,

2046
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 5: and then we'll bounce on out of here. And it

2047
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: looks like Longo wants to come back midweek, so we

2048
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 5: will continue the UFC THREEZHO three conversation with some bonus

2049
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 5: content on Wednesday. But Roman Deliedze over Anthony Lionheart Smith

2050
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 5: in a light heavyweight bout that also came together about

2051
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,919
Speaker 5: two weeks before the fight. Dalieds had spent some extended

2052
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 5: time in Vegas, was in shape, went home to Georgia,

2053
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 5: stayed on his diet. Obviously he's competing up twenty pounds

2054
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 5: here as a tried and true middleweight. But Kenny, you

2055
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 5: know when you accept a fight on short notice, there

2056
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 5: is in parent's risk and for Anthony Smith, you know,

2057
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 5: the opportunity to maybe compete underneath Alex Padda whose radar

2058
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 5: he was on had some intrigue, you know. But now

2059
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 5: obviously that fight goes away for Anthony Smith. So what

2060
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 5: are your thoughts on Dalidze and Smith and this feature

2061
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 5: about at UFC three zero three.

2062
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was an interesting one, you know, out of

2063
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: the three that I got wrong the weekend, you know,

2064
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Cup Swanson, I would make again.

2065
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 4: I would make that bet again do you think he won?

2066
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 4: I did.

2067
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I thought he you know, it was close, he was

2068
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: super close though, not a major problem with it. But

2069
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: and then mighty to Bueno Silva.

2070
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

2071
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily mad at that that happens. Okay, that's

2072
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: the fight in but the Anthony Smith won, I'm regretting

2073
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. Why Because some fighters aren't the same

2074
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: if they don't have a full camp. And I think

2075
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: that Anthony Smith would have been a much different fighter

2076
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: if he had a full camp.

2077
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 4: He looked good in round one.

2078
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: He looked actually great in round one for a little bit,

2079
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: and then it seemed like I don't know if it

2080
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: was confidence, but I think it was more his gas

2081
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: tank and maybe running out of things to do. He

2082
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: just started looking worse and worse. And I think that

2083
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: happens when you don't have a full training camp. You're confidence,

2084
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: you're conditioning. If you lose those things, it's going to

2085
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: go downhill fast. And I you know Dalite is you

2086
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: know he's a good grappler. I think he's a good grappler,

2087
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: no question about it. I think he showed that in

2088
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: that fight against Anthony Smith. But I think Anthony was

2089
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 1: looking very tired. He was kind of checking out at times.

2090
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: But I do think Anthony Smith is overall the better fighter.

2091
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: We just didn't get to see that, and it was

2092
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: Dolite who came in more prepared. He was a weight

2093
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: class above. Still got the win. You got to give

2094
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 1: it up to Roman Dealitze. I thought he looked the

2095
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: best he's looked and maybe ever. And that's the difference

2096
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: of when you stay ready, when you stay focused, all

2097
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: that stuff. I think that was the difference there. Unfortunate

2098
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: for Anthony Smith because I think he showed some improvements

2099
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: but wasn't able to put it all together and be

2100
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: effective enough against someone like Dalitze.

2101
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 5: Anthony Smith is one of my good friends. I have

2102
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 5: so much much respect for him, and there are some

2103
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 5: interesting variables when it comes to his acceptance of this fight.

2104
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 6: And I said on the Postfights show that you.

2105
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 5: Can't cheat this sport, Kenny, And hopefully my words don't

2106
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 5: get taken out of context, because Anthony Lionheart Smith has

2107
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 5: given so much of himself to mixed martial arts. If

2108
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 5: any athlete has not cheated this sport, it is him.

2109
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 5: But he just gave the Vetor Patrino win, right, back

2110
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 5: against the middleweight that he probably should beat with a

2111
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 5: full training camp. DLIDS is underrated right now, But like,

2112
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Like obviously the bank account looks

2113
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 5: great on Monday morning, you step up for the UFC,

2114
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 5: but Anthony Smith immediately goes over to Hunter Campbell and says,

2115
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 5: can I have some more time next time? And you know,

2116
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 5: the Alex Padeta fight, however close it was, Kenny, it

2117
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 5: goes away here, So you know, I don't know. I

2118
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 5: know it's a balancing act for fighters when it comes

2119
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 5: to these opportunities. But yeah, just didn't look like Anthony

2120
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 5: Smith in there to me sitting knocking on side.

2121
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it was tough to watch, you know,

2122
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: especially near the end. And and uh do let's say,

2123
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: just look like the more focused guy. And if Anthony

2124
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: Smith is understanding that maybe he's not going to be

2125
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: at his best without a fool kept it, don't take

2126
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: the fight.

2127
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's okay to say no.

2128
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes he stepped up for the organization many times before

2129
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: he's going to get more of the more other opportunities.

2130
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he probably should have just you know,

2131
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: said no, and and uh called it, called it a night.

2132
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 4: And a day off. But anyways, you know, I think

2133
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: that he'll he'll be back.

2134
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 5: You know, I just I'm not a fighter, but you know,

2135
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 5: when you think about a guy like that, I think,

2136
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 5: if I can make the way a few weeks, right,

2137
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 5: not even necessarily thinking necessarily what condition he'll be in

2138
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 5: on fight night in terms of you know, at the

2139
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:43,799
Speaker 5: time he accepts the fight and then sort of realizing

2140
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 5: he'd maybe get to where he wanted to. YEA, all right,

2141
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 5: congrats to Joe Pifer. Outstanding performance in a bounce back

2142
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 5: spot there in the featured prelim. Kenny and uh, he's

2143
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 5: just such a physical specimen and he's so married to

2144
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 5: the game, and he does put some pressure on himself

2145
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 5: at times, and as Daniel said on the broadcast, he

2146
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 5: had to hear from that other side of the fan

2147
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 5: base after the loss, a lot of people messaging him,

2148
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,560
Speaker 5: you know, I lost so much money on you and

2149
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 5: people talking shit, right, But he had a compromise training

2150
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 5: camp for the Jack Romanson fight, and I think that

2151
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 5: did weigh on him in the octagon. Even though he

2152
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 5: was able to go those twenty five minutes, he was

2153
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 5: waiting to exhale Kenny. He beats Mark Andre Berrio. He

2154
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 5: comes over to the broadcast booth and screamed at the

2155
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 5: top of his lungs, I was sick for my last fight.

2156
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 5: So you know, I don't know what you think about

2157
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 5: Joe Pifer long term, but at least in terms of

2158
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 5: this matchup in this showcase, you know, he uh, he

2159
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 5: just destroyed a guy who has shown durability at times.

2160
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 4: I no, no question about it.

2161
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: And I think that these things happen, and sometimes as

2162
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: a fighter, we pushed the line of our toughness and

2163
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: we think we're gonna be okay, Yeah, I'm gonna deal

2164
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: with it.

2165
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to push through, and those things don't work out.

2166
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean again, Ryan Ortega didn't take this fight for

2167
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: a reason, and and some guys will take the risk

2168
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: and go I'm gonna do it anyway, you.

2169
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 4: Know, whether it's Alex Perero with a broken toe or whatever.

2170
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: And you know, when you're starting out your career and

2171
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 1: you're facing good challenges, that's.

2172
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 4: Not always going to work out for you.

2173
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: And I think Piper's understanding where he's at, what he's

2174
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: capable of, what he needs to do, and you're gonna

2175
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 1: make some mistakes along the way. I still think that

2176
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: the ceiling is quite high for him, and he just

2177
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,480
Speaker 1: needs to be able to manage that explosiveness, that aggression

2178
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: into cage with also patients as he moves on in

2179
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: his career.

2180
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 4: But I do think that was a great result for him.

2181
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 4: That's how you get back on track.

2182
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 5: Man Fight of the Night Andre Feeley versus Cub Swanson

2183
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 5: seems like the three of us all kind of thought

2184
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 5: maybe Cub had done enough. I guess I felt like

2185
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 5: maybe the more consequential shots were landed by Peey, but

2186
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 5: Cubb was just in constant pursuit of offense and I

2187
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 5: was a little bit mesmerized I think at times by

2188
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 5: the forward pressure and the aggression. A lot of it

2189
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 5: was effective striking, Jay, I don't know if you have

2190
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 5: anything for us on that. You know, Cub was about

2191
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: a two to one underdog. No, I think you laid

2192
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 5: it out well. The only reason would be the significance

2193
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 5: and the pop and feely strikes. But I you know,

2194
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 5: I don't kind of love sitting there scoring fights necessarily.

2195
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 5: That fight was great to watch. Jenny tough one though, again,

2196
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 5: you've had a great year in terms of handicapping. Mixed

2197
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 5: martial arts, and oftentimes I wonder why you're not betting

2198
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 5: on this stuff, Like I don't think I would be

2199
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 5: some great sort of long term, long term and MMA handicapper.

2200
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 5: But gosh, man, it seems like you're getting burned with

2201
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 5: some of these splits. When you're betting these underdogs like you,

2202
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 5: you could be up five or six k if a

2203
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 5: couple of these had gone your way.

2204
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just have to say, I mean, flows it.

2205
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 5: I don't mean to interrupt, but Kenny, you're out in

2206
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 5: Vegas right your conviction on Pereira Padta however you want

2207
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 5: to see it. I mean, it's like a guy who

2208
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 5: should have put twenty five thousand dollars on Alex Podata.

2209
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 5: Forget bitcoin for a second.

2210
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 1: No, you're right, thank you know, I probably should have

2211
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: right said, I played some weird parlay. But yeah, anyways,

2212
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: you know I think that for certain last year, I

2213
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 1: really got bit by a lot of these close shots,

2214
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, close call. This year, I've done way more homework.

2215
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: I've kind of over analyzed things a little bit more.

2216
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes it helps, sometimes it hurts, But so far, so

2217
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty four, man, and we'll.

2218
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 5: Try to keep it going congrats to Jean Lord Silva

2219
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 5: for his knockout of Charles Jordain clean Caro. There he

2220
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 5: did misweight, which largely makes you bonus ineligible, but Jean

2221
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 5: Silva got three hugs in the fighter meeting one of

2222
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 5: the happiest guys on the UFC roster, Peyton Talbot. Man,

2223
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 5: My goodness, what a knockout against Yaniskimori ken Flow. It's

2224
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 5: hard to sort of, you know, quantify what Peyton Talbot

2225
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 5: can be in the future, but he seems to know

2226
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 5: how to market himself. He seems to have a star

2227
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 5: quality about him. Certainly can fight as plus skills in

2228
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 5: all areas. He's a plus athlete. And I know, even

2229
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier said on the broadcast, we just got to

2230
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 5: get him to learn how to navigate a microphone. You know,

2231
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 5: I don't mind some of the dead pan he had

2232
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 5: Adrian Janiez on the tip of his And I think

2233
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 5: he leverages his YouTube content pretty well. Peyton Talbot chips

2234
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 5: in the center of the table for me, I'm all in, no, he.

2235
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 1: Does, and I think that stoicism serves him well. I've

2236
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. How you know those guys

2237
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: who can stay super even keeled. You know, it may

2238
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: not make them the best interview or you know, give

2239
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: them those energy for call ups and things like that.

2240
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: But in regards to his approach in cage, you know,

2241
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: that's that's huge for his ability to assess, his ability

2242
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,560
Speaker 1: to not get overly excited. And I think that's what

2243
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: makes him such a special striker. He can slow things

2244
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: down for himself and find those openings and then execute

2245
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,799
Speaker 1: on those openings, and that's what makes him a special striker.

2246
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I still think he's got some things to learn when

2247
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: it comes to grappling. He starts to get those things down,

2248
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: watch the hell out, he's going to be a problem.

2249
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 5: Awesome win for Vensius Olivera as betting underdog against Ricky

2250
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 5: Simone to begin the night. Olivera is a really interesting

2251
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 5: name at one hundred and thirty five pounds as well

2252
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 5: and stylistically, the Simone matchup is one of the more

2253
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 5: difficult ones he could have been presented with Martin Boudai

2254
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 5: over Andre Arlovski. And an interesting note on that, Kenny,

2255
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 5: now that Arlovsky is no longer a UFC fighter, I

2256
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 5: do expect, based upon our fighter meeting, that you will

2257
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 5: see him in an MMA or boxing setting despite the

2258
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 5: fact that he is forty five years of age. But

2259
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 5: now that Arlovsky Kenny is no longer a UFC fighter,

2260
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 5: Steve A. Mitschich hasn't fought a single guy who is

2261
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 5: on the UFC's active roster.

2262
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 6: Wow, definitely mean is that non? Put that in your

2263
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 6: fucking pipe and smoke.

2264
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yike, all right.

2265
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 5: Lastly on UFC three h three Jillian Robertson and by

2266
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 5: the way, Michelle Watterson Gomez. I just have to say,

2267
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 5: a classier woman I have not met. I love her husband, daughter,

2268
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 5: everything else, and competitive till the end. Not getting finished

2269
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 5: Kenny by Jillian Robertson here right, Like, I know, it's

2270
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 5: five straight red stripes on the Wikipedia page for Michelle

2271
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 5: Watterson Gomez, But I feel like she was competitive, especially

2272
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 5: when it came to her defensive responsibility in the grappling

2273
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 5: realm till the very end.

2274
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 4: Dude. She's a fighter through and through.

2275
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: Really has been competing in the UFC despite her really

2276
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: being an adam weight, right. I mean, she's she's small,

2277
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: but man is she tough? And yeah, I think that

2278
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, she's always shown a certain level of gameness

2279
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 1: She's shown evolution in her game. Remember when she was

2280
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: really just a striker and then all of a sudden

2281
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: started taking people down and getting good position on the ground.

2282
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 4: So she is a martial artist, you know.

2283
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: Always enjoyed working with her, and yeah, unfortunate they are

2284
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: on the loss, but again she proved why she's she's

2285
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: such a tough fighter in that last one didn't get

2286
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: the win, but Robertson is a hell of a grappler man.

2287
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 5: All right, last thing, I want to get your collective

2288
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 5: thoughts on UFC three zero three related or maybe second

2289
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 5: to last thing before we extend and continue the recap

2290
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 5: on Wednesday. Kenny Gillian Robertson with Dean Thomas in her corner.

2291
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 5: What an absolute savage this woman is. Right, She's now

2292
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 5: eleven wins into her UFC career. Seven of those have

2293
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,959
Speaker 5: been submissions, two of those have been knockout, so nine finishes,

2294
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 5: eleven UFC wins. And they talk so much about overwhelming

2295
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 5: the opposition and training to finish and doing damage and

2296
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 5: obviously they were trying violently with these elbows to get

2297
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 5: Michelle Watterson Gomez out of there. I just love everything

2298
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 5: about Jillian Robertson. She's been built the right way. She

2299
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 5: comes out to fifty cents pimp. The whole thing's fucking perfect, man, Like,

2300
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 5: what do you have, Horizon? Jillian Robertson potentially ascending here

2301
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 5: in this UFC Strawey Division.

2302
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: I definitely think that's possible. I think she can continue

2303
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: to rise up the rankings. I've seen her train she

2304
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: was over at fifty to fifty at Ryan Hall's Jim

2305
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 1: at Falls Church, Virginia, training twice a day. Really a

2306
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: student of the game, very quiet, very humble, hard working girl.

2307
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this result. She is an excellent

2308
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: grappler who's looking to fill in some of those gaps

2309
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 1: with her striking, with her ground and pound, and we're

2310
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: seeing improvement. So I think she's well on her way

2311
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: to moving up those rankings for sure.

2312
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 5: All Right, So before we get on out of here,

2313
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez I think wants that Brian Ortega fight. And

2314
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 5: it doesn't seem at least right now, that Lopez Kenny

2315
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 5: has any pause when it comes to accepting another fight

2316
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 5: against Brian t City or Tega, right given what happened

2317
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 5: this weekend, and we all want to give t city

2318
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 5: the benefit of the doubt, whether it comes to the

2319
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 5: one zho three fever that he had on Friday night

2320
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 5: that he woke up with on Saturday, or you know

2321
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 5: the fact that he made a concerted effort to get

2322
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 5: down to one hundred and forty six pounds even though

2323
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez, in my mind, got royally screwed. But Big

2324
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 5: Ron Pellegrino, our gracious host at Virgin Hotels this weekend, Kenny,

2325
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 5: you know, he asked me three times in my final

2326
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 5: eight hours out there, like is Brian Ortega going to

2327
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 5: get off Scott free?

2328
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 4: In all of this?

2329
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 5: And for me, as the lead play by play voice

2330
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 5: of the UFC, it's not necessarily my position to.

2331
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 6: Answer that question.

2332
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 5: But are you able to Kenny, since you don't work

2333
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 5: for the promotion at least right now, like is he

2334
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 5: going to get off Scott free? And you know, is

2335
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 5: there any culpability on Team or Tega in accepting a

2336
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 5: fight that maybe they didn't think they could contractually honor

2337
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 5: at forty six?

2338
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 6: Like what do you have for us on that?

2339
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think their intentions were were good. I

2340
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 1: think that they tried to make this happen. I thought they.

2341
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 1: I think they thought it was a really good fight

2342
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: for them and a good opportunity to go in there,

2343
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,759
Speaker 1: make a great payday and maybe get a win again.

2344
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: I thought Lopez was going to be a really tough

2345
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: fight for him. I think that they kind of were

2346
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 1: playing some war games there a little bit. I think

2347
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: that Brian Ortega may have started either a run where

2348
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: he started to get sick or started to get fatigued

2349
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 1: and called it last minute, not saying it was necessarily

2350
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: on purpose, but they weren't going to break themselves down

2351
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: to make one hundred and forty five pounds against this

2352
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: very dangerous dig right in my opinion.

2353
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 4: So I think there's a little bit of war games there.

2354
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: And you know, the unfortunate thing, and I've certainly experienced

2355
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: that at the end of these training camps. I can't

2356
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: tell you how many fighters start to get their immune

2357
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: system down because they're doing all this intense training and

2358
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: weight cutting, and now they become vulnerable to the vulnerable

2359
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: to be getting sick. So this is quite common. Unfortunately,

2360
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: if Ortega they mistimed it, and yeah, it all.

2361
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 5: Kind of went to hell from there, And that was

2362
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 5: one of my initial thoughts Brian Ortega looked to be

2363
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 5: in decent shape, but he was in Houston when Hunter

2364
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 5: Campbell said, you look good, and then this opportunity materialized,

2365
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 5: and I think maybe he just asked a whole lot

2366
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 5: of his body in a short amount of time and

2367
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 5: the immune system didn't cooperate. All right, real quickly, want

2368
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 5: to clean out my notes here and we'll be out

2369
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 5: of here by the top of the hour. So one

2370
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 5: of the things I have written in my podcast notes

2371
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 5: today is no notes. It was the first time I

2372
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 5: called a UFC fight without having any notes on Dan

2373
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 5: e Gay, and at one point it dawned on me

2374
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 5: that Dan e Gay had never been finished. So for

2375
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 5: athletes that have never been finished, I have in all

2376
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 5: caps at the top of their fighter card as long

2377
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 5: as it's not like their tenth pro fight never been finished.

2378
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 5: And as round one is playing out, I said in

2379
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 5: my producer Lappi and Zach Candido's ear, like, can you

2380
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 5: just confirm for me that Dany Gay has never been finished?

2381
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 5: Because I'm thinking like he ain't being fucking finished by

2382
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 5: Diego Lopez, even though Diego.

2383
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 6: Lopez finishes everybody else.

2384
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 5: So it was an interesting exercise for me calling a

2385
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 5: fight without the benefit of preparation. I also did just

2386
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 5: want to acknowledge Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mizzoula. And

2387
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 5: if this sounds self serving, so be it. But for

2388
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 5: a kid like me spent thirty two years in Massachusetts,

2389
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 5: I was a Boston Celtics season ticket holder for two years,

2390
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 5: sitting in the ten dollars seats. I covered the team

2391
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five and two thousand and six

2392
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 5: for the MetroWest Daily News in Framingham, Massachusetts, and to

2393
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 5: have the Celtics head coach stick around after the paper

2394
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 5: to have a moment with me and to say to me,

2395
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,560
Speaker 5: we just wanted to bring it home for Boston and

2396
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 5: to share like not just a hug, but like a

2397
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 5: real embrace with that guy, and to have him ask

2398
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 5: me for my number, which of course, thankfully is still

2399
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 5: a five oh eight Massachusetts. Like I was crying with Jay,

2400
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 5: my twin bro here in the penthouse, you know a

2401
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 5: little bit later that night, because it's just Kenny, you know,

2402
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 5: for me, it's just is like, you know, the fact

2403
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 5: that the Celtics head coach is sticking around to like

2404
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 5: have a moment with me. It's like I don't need

2405
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 5: much else in life professionally, you know, you know, and

2406
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 5: I'll just say real quick, he's very He and Eric

2407
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 5: Nixon have developed a friendship and they're very tight as well,

2408
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 5: and so that was sort of unique. I think I

2409
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 5: would have liked to talk to Eric a little bit

2410
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 5: about it. But what I'll say about Joe Missoula, right,

2411
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 5: he replaced emy Udoka, who had like an affair with

2412
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 5: an executive in the Celtics organization, right, and emy Udoka

2413
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 5: was a tremendous coach who I loved. And the first

2414
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 5: moment I ever saw Joe Missoula on the microphone, it

2415
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 5: was so clear to me. I was like, dude is brilliant,

2416
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 5: Like they clearly picked the right guy, and not everyone

2417
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 5: in Boston was necessarily you know, he had a lot

2418
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 5: of haters just for the fuck of it, you know,

2419
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 5: but he is absolutely one of the best coaches in

2420
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 5: the NBA.

2421
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 6: At thirty five with the championship, during.

2422
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 5: The parade, he gets off of the duck boat to

2423
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: go greet fans individually and walk up the line.

2424
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 6: It reminded me of John at that Quervo event. But

2425
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 6: he's a special man.

2426
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 4: No question about it.

2427
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: So self aware to manage a professional team in the

2428
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 1: way that he's done it, and just the things that

2429
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: he said, you could you could just say, you could

2430
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: just tell that he's a brilliant dude. So that must

2431
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 1: have been a real special nightman to meet someone like

2432
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: that who's on that level, and with you guys being

2433
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: such huge Boston sports fans, that's pretty damn cool.

2434
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 6: And Kenny, I don't know if you know his history,

2435
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 6: but he trains at Gracie Baja Boston.

2436
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2437
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 6: No, that's the.

2438
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 5: Diehard all right, we gotta gets. But other than that, yeah,

2439
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 5: I mean that Nixic connection, you know. I mean, it's

2440
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 5: amazing Birthday by the way to Joe Miszoula on Sunday,

2441
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 5: and uh yeah, no, there would be a lot of

2442
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 5: value in having him on the Anicanploring podcast because he

2443
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 5: loves the UFC, Like I think he loves the UFC

2444
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 5: almost as much as I love the Boston Celtics. But

2445
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 5: to have like Dana White right, grab my Celtics backpack

2446
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,839
Speaker 5: right trying to like get it on TV behind Joe Miszoula,

2447
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, what world am I living in right now?

2448
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 6: Like maybe I should just retire tonight.

2449
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 9: That's so cool.

2450
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 6: All right, let's see. Do I have anything else in here?

2451
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So before we get on out of here,

2452
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 5: so we showed a video earlier of Jay at the

2453
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 5: ufc X pretending to be me or fucking with fans

2454
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 5: a little bit, right.

2455
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 6: So I played that video for my daughters, and.

2456
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 5: Riley was saying that normally Uncle Jason sounds a lot

2457
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 5: more like John because our voices are pretty similar. And

2458
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 5: so I couldn't tell her that you were drunk. But

2459
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 5: the reason why you didn't sound normal on that video

2460
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 5: is because you were.

2461
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 6: You were drinking.

2462
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 5: Hollerhead all dait, so hollerhead. Event I showed up at

2463
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 5: nine pint thirty, they said do you want it?

2464
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 6: Do you want a shot?

2465
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 5: It's like and then we had a we're spinning the

2466
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 5: wheel for this trivia game, and Chase Hooper and I

2467
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 5: are hosting this trivia game, right, and one of the

2468
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 5: one of the categories or one of the spins, his

2469
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 5: host takes a shot. When Chase Hooper sees this, right,

2470
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 5: it's like he's about to walk into the octagon. You know,

2471
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 5: He's like, got them. I'm not taking any shots, you

2472
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 5: know what I mean? I'm like, all right, I got you,

2473
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I end up taking

2474
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 5: three more shots. So we were feeling nice when we

2475
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 5: walked into their crowd. All right, final thing I want

2476
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 5: to share with you folks.

2477
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 3: TJ.

2478
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 5: DeSantis, with the help of artificial intelligence, came up with

2479
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 5: a rap for Jason Annik, which I think is now

2480
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 5: sort of going to be your rallying cry as you

2481
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 5: navigate this world of h be it a pseudo celebrity

2482
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 5: and having to walk through life as everybody thinks you're

2483
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 5: somebody else.

2484
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,839
Speaker 6: Well, and you'll and my boy Belah Mohammed.

2485
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:44,560
Speaker 5: Right, we're creeping on three zero four, just shout that

2486
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 5: out right twenty six days. But I believe this track

2487
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 5: is called remember the Name, which is ironic given.

2488
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 6: My relationship with Bully B. So that's it, all right,

2489
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 6: let's get to the track.

2490
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 2: Hey, Jolly love your job. Every day people always say

2491
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 2: he ain't John, We love you John, Nah?

2492
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 8: Talk about today you think I'm John, I'm actually Jay.

2493
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 8: They always crack a smile and say, no way, you

2494
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 8: gotta be real. You know I wouldn't play It's cool,

2495
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 8: I get it, or Twain, it's okay. I got a

2496
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 8: different style, haspit a different.

2497
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: Flow when I bock alike. It's from my own show

2498
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 2: at a ball and it's kind of like a game.

2499
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 8: I'm Jason Edic, Remember my name Johnson the Spotlight doing

2500
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 8: his thing, but I got my own crowd.

2501
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm a different kid. People always asking, ain't you John Bell.

2502
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 8: I'm just laughing it off and say it ain't so nah,

2503
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 8: not today. You think I'm John, I'm actually Jay. They

2504
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 8: always crack a smile and say.

2505
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 2: No way, gotta be real. You know I wouldn't play.

2506
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: It's cool. I get it which way, It's okay. You

2507
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 2: got a different style, different and show.

2508
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 9: It's kind of like a game.

2509
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 8: I'm Jason Addic, remember my name Johnson the Spotlight doing

2510
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 8: his thing, But I got my own crowd.

2511
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 2: I'm a different king done.

2512
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 4: I think we're good.

2513
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 5: I think we got all of it. But TJ wrote

2514
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 5: that he TJ wrote the lyrics. I was blown away.

2515
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, and I expressed that to him. You

2516
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 5: can be sure, Hey, I tell TJ we need to

2517
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 5: wrap that or something. So I started writing hip hop

2518
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:18,959
Speaker 5: lyrics to a UFC track called One More Sleep incidentally,

2519
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 5: and uh, I don't think I can write hip hop

2520
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 5: as well as TJ. So TJ if you would like

2521
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 5: to be paid to write One More Sleep. We're trying

2522
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 5: to get as many UFC athletes names into that hip

2523
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 5: hop track.

2524
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 6: We don't need an AI rapper though. It's going to

2525
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 6: be me and h Trey the Truth on a few

2526
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 6: and Kenny Kenny Florian's name will most certainly. Oh yeah, man,

2527
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 6: give me Ton Florian. Let's go. We got to get

2528
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 6: on out of here. Do you got anything else? Nothing?

2529
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: All right?

2530
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 5: Thank you all for being here, Jay, Thanks for stepping up.

2531
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 5: Thanks for everything you do on behalf of the show.

2532
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody at Cuervo for rolling out the red

2533
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 5: carpet for me and Ken Flow over the weekend. Thanks

2534
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 5: to Big Ron Pellegrino Virgin Hotels, Las Vegas. Thanks for

2535
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 5: our executive producer, Cody Merrow. If you want to support

2536
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 5: the show, you can do that at John Annat dot

2537
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,919
Speaker 5: com and Kenny Florian dot com. One More Sleep merchandise

2538
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 5: is up, as are all the antikon Florian podcast designs.

2539
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 6: Do we have a promo code?

2540
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 5: We'll go UFC three oh four fifteen percent off, All right.

2541
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 5: UFC three oh four is the promo code. John Anna

2542
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 5: dot com for your merchandise needs, and check out Kenny

2543
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 5: Florian dot com as well. We will be back with

2544
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 5: you at some point midweek, maybe on Wednesday, to continue

2545
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 5: the UFC three oh three conversation. Thanks to our guest

2546
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 5: today though, Ray Long Go, Danny Gay and Eric nixck

2547
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 5: with that for Jason Anna, Kenny Flord, and I'm John

2548
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 5: Anna signing off for now. We will talk to you

2549
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 5: in about forty eight hours. Until then, thanks for watching,

2550
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 5: Thanks for listening, Tell you mom, you later.

2551
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 2: Heij hey, Joey, love you John.

2552
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 8: Every day people always say Hei too, Hey, jolly love

2553
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 8: you John.

2554
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: No do got today? You think I'm John? I'm actually Jay.

2555
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 8: They always crack a smile and say, no way, gotta

2556
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 8: be real. You know I wouldn't playing It's cool, I

2557
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 8: get it, or Twain it's okay. I got a different

2558
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 8: style's been a different flow when I bucked the mike.

2559
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 2: It's from my own show, but I hosted with ballall

2560
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like a game. I'm chasing Edik.

2561
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 8: Remember my name, Johnson the Spotlight doing his thing, But

2562
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 8: I got my own crown.

2563
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm a different kid. People always asking, ain't you John?

2564
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 3: Ball.

2565
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm just lapping it off and say it ain't so

2566
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 2: nah dog, not today. You think I'm John. I'm actually Jay.

2567
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 8: They always crack a smile and say, no, Bay gotta

2568
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 8: be real. You know I wouldn't play.

2569
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 2: It's cool.

2570
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 8: I get it, which wait, so gay? I got a

2571
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 8: different styles, bit, a different flow. When I rocked the

2572
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 8: mic is from the own show I hosted with Blow

2573
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 8: and it's kind of like a game.

2574
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm chasing edic.

2575
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 8: Remember my name, Johnson the spotlight doing his thing, But

2576
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 8: I got my own crown.

2577
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm a different kid. People always asking, ain't you John Ball?

2578
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 2: I just laugh it off and say it ain't so

2579
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 2: nah dog, not today. You think I'm John. I'm actually Jay.

2580
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 8: They always crack a smile and say, no, Bay gotta

2581
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 8: be real. You know I wouldn't play.

2582
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: It's cool. I get it. We're twaining so Cam Jayson

2583
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 2: not John. Can't you see Mike look the same. But

2584
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent of me. Respect to my brother,

2585
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: He's the fucking man. When I'm like no other, got

2586
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: my own play. I got a different style, has been

2587
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 2: a different vaut. When I'm bock a Mike, he's from

2588
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 2: my own show. My host with Blah, and it's kind

2589
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 2: of like a game. I'm chasing Eddic. Remember my naw

2590
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 2: you look for my mother. He's a star.

2591
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 8: But I'm cruising my own lane, dropping my own car.

2592
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 8: Twins with the bond, but I'm on my crime chase

2593
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 8: it ad here to read the five.

2594
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 2: So next time you see me, know who I am.

2595
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm chase sin Eddie. Come my own jam, breaking the mold,

2596
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 2: stepping out the.

2597
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 8: Frame, living like my way, playing my own games.

2598
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 2: I said John, He's a legend, no.

2599
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 8: Town, but I'm chasing a and I stand down.

2600
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 2: Identical twins. Yeah, a share of face, but I'm on

2601
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 2: my own passitting my own pace.

2602
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 8: I got a different stylist in a different vote, but

2603
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 8: I'm bock a Mike is from my own show.

2604
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 2: My host with Blah, and it's kind of like a game.

2605
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm chasing Addic. Remember my immemver my name. I'm never Monday.

2606
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 9: He's gone red.

2607
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 2: He like to mix in the phones like the yeast

2608
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 2: and a rope.

2609
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 4: He's a lucky Ain't that he's a soul to the breast.

2610
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 2: He's gone bread, He's gone bred.

2611
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 3: Lay it so precious to the mess that you can't

2612
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 3: keep your hands.

2613
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 13: On the box in the open man.

2614
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 9: He's gone red. He's gone red.

2615
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 5: He's going