1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Pate. It's probably Tuesday, 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, the year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Wherever you're listening, I'm very excited. The show's doing great. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm terrified because college football is changing beneath my feet. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Let's just start it off like this. I want you 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: to answer me. I may not hear you, but you 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: can say it out loud unless you're around people, in 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: which case just think it. Have you ever seen a 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: week like this in your life? I don't care if 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: you're seventy eight or you're the age of eight. Have 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: you ever seen anything quite like this? We can debate 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: whether the Texas Oklahoma moved to the SEC's the biggest 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: story of the year, or the decade, or of all time. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: It's not quite that, But what I mean is how 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: it seemingly came out of nowhere. One of the biggest 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: stories easily in the history of the sport comes out 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: of nowhere, to the point where if I were to 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: be on this podcast this time a week and a 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: half ago and I made the prediction, you rite fully 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: should have just stopped listening because I would have been 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: so discredited and it would have been so out of 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: left field it wouldn't even make sense to continue listening 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: to this. Well, hey, that goes to show you the 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: point I always make about laughing at predictions. Normally I'm 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: talking about games, but predictions. Don't ever just wholly discount them, 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: no matter how crazy they are. If I tell you 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: Alcorn State's beating Ohio State in Week four, even though 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: they don't play them, don't just totally discount it. Write 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: it down, and then after the Buckeys are up fifty 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: six to three at the half, then you can start 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: laughing at me. But be very careful because those crazy 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: predictions in sports, they may be crazy, but they're never impossible. 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: So with that, I say welcome in. I cannot stress 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: to you in strong enough terms our gratitude because of 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the wave that this podcast and the entire brand of 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Late Kick is riding. This sounds like a typo. I 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: thought it was a typo the other day. It's not. 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Our audience has grown forty percent in the last two months. 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: In the middle of summer, it's grown forty percent. We're 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: out pacing anything we did last football season. We've had 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: our first, third and fifth highest viewed shows of all 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: time this month on Late Kick Live. And the reason 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: it makes me so happy is not just the numbers. 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: The numbers are great, but as I've told you before, 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: we could go out and we could pay thousands to 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to promote this 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: and basically force it in front of a bunch of 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: people and force impression our way to the top. We 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: haven't done that. We haven't spent any money to promote 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: the show. It's been totally you. So it is validation 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: for us that not only have you accepted the show, 53 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: but you've liked it so much that you've taken an 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: active part in promoting it and being our marketing department. 55 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing that is really really hard to replicate. 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people wish they had the formula for that. Well, 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: you know what, masterclass in session ten seconds long, get ready, 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: here's the formula. Talk with the audience every day about 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: college football and rap. I think we had some spare 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: time there, so I yield back the balance of my time. 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: You guys can go debate or talk politics like you 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: tend to do on shows that were labeled college football, 63 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: which has brought people over to this show. Hey, whatever, 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So we've got a loaded this morning, 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: and I am sarcastic there, but I am very genuine 66 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: in my appreciation. You don't even know you. Was talking 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: to a longtime buddy last night and we were kind 68 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: of just chopping it back and forth about what it 69 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: used to be like and what it is now, and man, 70 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: oh man, I've kind of semi told the stories on here. 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: One day, maybe at a speaking engagement, you know, maybe 72 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: one day off platform, we get a group of us 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: together and you just really hear what it used to 74 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: be like, and you really hear the entire story arc 75 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: of the first time anyone ever entrusted me to talk 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to a public audience versus where we're at now and 77 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: then where we're going who knows. But I feel really 78 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: good about it. But that is for another time. This morning, 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: we've got a jam packed mail bag. There is no 80 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: prayer I'm getting to all these. I want to say 81 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: right off the top, I got thousands and thousands of 82 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: emails or dms about the Texas Oklahoma situation. Obviously I 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: can't answer all of them. I've given my general thoughts 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: on the Laky Live episode on Sunday night, so you 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: listen to it if you listened on the podcast Monday. Obviously, 86 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: there are several things going on right now. I'm about 87 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: to discuss some of them, but I just wanted to 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: say I appreciate the emails. Keep sending them by all means, 89 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: but I cannot answer every single one of them, but 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I do see them. And there are just too many 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: emails to get to in general on the pod this morning, 92 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: but I'm getting to as many as possible. This is 93 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be like. We should have a 94 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: mail bag overflowing. So I appreciate that. So Robbie asks 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the question that I think a lot of you in 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: some way are asking. So I'm just going to use Robbie. 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: Robbie as speaking for the mob here with the news 98 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: that Oklahoma and Texas have reached out to the SEC, 99 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: can you elaborate for us more recent college football fans 100 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: why this is such a big deal. So to update 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: you as I'm sitting here recording on Tuesday morning, the 102 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Oklahoma Sooners in the Texas Longhorns, they have not only 103 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: informed the big ten. They are leaving. They have requested 104 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: inclusion into the SEC. That's a formality. It's going to happen. 105 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: So Robbie and everyone, why is this so big? I 106 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: am very interested to ask this. I wish we were 107 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: in a town hall and you could just raise your 108 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: hand and I could call on you. Over there, Jake, like, 109 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: why do you think this is so big? Then Mary 110 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: over in the corner, why do you think it's big? 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Think we would have some similarity, but maybe there would 112 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: be some differences. Some of you just look at it 113 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: and say, ooh, this conference schedule is going to be tougher. 114 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Someone else says, well, I really don't like what this 115 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: means for the future of North Dakota State football. So 116 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: there are many different takes. But Robbie, here's what it 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: really boils down to. From me, this is a global 118 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: event for college football, meaning it impacts the entire globe 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: of college football. Here's the best way I can describe 120 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: what is more than just a ripple effect. It's a 121 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: massive effect on college football. Think about sometimes when you 122 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: turn on the news, and I don't advise you to 123 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: do it, but if you ever turn on the news 124 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: and you see on the bottom line there Japan or 125 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: the Philippines, or Hawaii or the West Coast, they're under 126 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: a tsunami warning. Well, what does that come from? What 127 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: is that stemming from? It's not just a random wave 128 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: decided to go attack the shoreline. More than likely an 129 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: earthquake has happened somewhere thousands of miles away, somewhere maybe 130 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: one or two miles beneath the ocean's surface. There's been 131 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: an earthquake, Well, an earthquake out in the middle of nowhere, 132 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: under the Pacific Ocean, in areas we may not have 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: even explored yet. In and of it has nothing to 134 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: do with you in Manhattan Beach, California, but it's ripple effect, 135 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: or its tsunami effect does. And sometimes in college football 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: we get something that happens that in and of itself 137 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter to you. Whether Texas joins the SEC 138 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't impact West Virginia. But then when you realize Texas 139 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: going to the SEC may dissolve the conference that West 140 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Virginia's in, which leads West Virginia to have to look 141 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: for a new home, which leads to a complete scramble 142 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: mode when it comes to budget, and when it comes 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: to future scheduling and when it comes to your coaching 144 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: salaries and investments and facility enhancements, and then you times 145 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: that by about thirty or fifty, and you talk about 146 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: some programs that have long since been included in the 147 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: whole Power five discussion that now could be left out 148 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: to dry. When you start talking in those terms, then 149 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: you realize this is why it's such a big deal. 150 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: It's not just the move in and of itself. It 151 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: is the tsunami effect to the rest of the sport 152 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: that happens because the move is made. Then you consider, 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: since we're talking in terms of earthquake, the fact that 154 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: there are about three earthquakes and college football going on simultaneous. 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: We have the conference realignment, which in and of itself 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: is the biggest story of any decade. But then you 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: have nil which is the biggest story one of if 158 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: not the biggest, in the history of college sports because 159 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: it fundamentally changes how you define a college athlete. Then 160 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you also have the transfer portal, so you have free 161 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: rome for players to go wherever they want to. Those 162 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: are three huge earthquake generational type happenings in college football, 163 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and they're all happening in the same time period. They're 164 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: all happening in the same calendar year. You could write 165 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: entire novels or multiple novels about any one of these things, 166 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: and they're all happening overlapping and Robbie, that begs the 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: following question, what does it look like five years however 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: long we have to go into the future for the 169 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: proverbial dust to settle? A phrase I've used way too 170 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: much this week, but I'm going to use it at 171 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: least once more. How long until the dust settles? That's 172 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: the first thing. And then so secondly, what does the 173 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: landscape look like? Because it makes no sense to me 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: to try and forecast and try and make all these 175 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: cool looking graphics of which team's gonna be where. That 176 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: makes no sense when the earthquake's still happening. There's no 177 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: skill in doing that. But eventually the dust is gonna settle, 178 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: and eventually whatever a new normal for this sport is 179 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: will be. What's it gonna look like? Are we gonna 180 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: like the product? Are we gonna be pleasantly surprised? Are 181 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: we going to be extremely discouraged? Are we going to 182 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: long for the good old days? And by good old days. 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean twenty seventeen, which in and of itself sounds weird, 184 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: but hey, good old days might as well be twenty nineteen. 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: That's how recently we had the last quote unquote normal 186 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: year of college football. So, Robbie, that's why it's such 187 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: a big deal. And that's why many programs that aren't 188 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: involved in moving to a new conference or being in 189 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the conference that these teams are moving to are watching 190 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: this with both eyeballs because they know it impacts them. 191 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Eventually they are downstream of this move in some shape, 192 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: form or fashion. Eventually. I've got more on Texas ol 193 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: you coming up, don't you? So? Jesse's next up, and 194 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: Jesse has given me permission to tell a story, and 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: this is a good one. So the other night on 196 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: Lake Kick Live, we did a segment about October ninth 197 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: this year. It's I think week six, and I certainly 198 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: think it's the biggest week for this season in college football. 199 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, you got Georgia Auburn 200 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: play in that day, Notre Dame goes to Virginia Tech. 201 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: I think South Carolina and Tennessee's fascinating regionally, only because 202 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a couple of first year coaches. You've got Arkansas 203 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Ole Miss that day. There are a couple of other 204 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: games on the undercard, but then the main events. That's 205 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the day that Alabama goes to Texas A and M. 206 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: That's the same day Oklahoma place Texas. It's the same 207 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: day Utah goes to USC PAC twelfth South maybe on 208 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: the line at that point. And if that's not enough, 209 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you've got Penn State going too, Iowa up in the 210 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Big Ten. It's a massive day for college football. So 211 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: I did a segment and not that I ever believe 212 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: in fall Saturday weddings, but I said, if you have 213 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: a wedding in the fall that you're having to attend, 214 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: you may have to suck it up. I've had to 215 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: do it one time or two times in my life, 216 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: and it's brutal. It's torturous. It is just not good 217 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: life planning or decision making to have fall weddings on Saturdays. 218 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: Now you have a Thursday courthouse event, I'm all for it. 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: People who get married on weekdays or people who just 220 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: take it to the courthouse. Those people are saints. They 221 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: are living, breathing angels, and I wish them all the success. 222 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the metrics, but I'm pretty sure statistically 223 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: marriages that happen on weekdays or just at the courthouse 224 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: have like a thirty eight percent higher success rate. I 225 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: can't prove that, but I'm willing to just baselessly claim it. 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, back to the story Jesse is telling me, 227 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I realized when I watched that segment, not only was 228 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: I in a wedding, but it's on October ninth of 229 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: this year. I had several of you come to that realization. 230 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: There was like a death gong in the back of 231 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: your head when you looked at the calendar and you said, 232 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: wait a second. And so Jesse doesn't stop there. He 233 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: goes on to hop in his group text with all 234 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the people that are in this wedding I think it 235 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: may have been family actually, and they just go to 236 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: war with each other. It was great. As an innocent bystander, 237 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,479 Speaker 1: it was great to watch. So I had my popcorn, 238 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: they had the knife emojis, and there were all kinds 239 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: of things being said back and forth. And so Jesse 240 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: comes to me mid argument and sends me some personal 241 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: and highly confidential family group text screenshots allow me to 242 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: share the dad drops the hammer. He just says, I'm 243 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: out of the wedding. And then someone else says, this 244 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: is why I'm a firm believer in no fall weddings. 245 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: And then someone else comes in trying to defend this 246 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: incalculably bad decision by saying, that's why we're getting married 247 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: at three o'clock, so that the ceremony will be over 248 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: and your projector screen will be up by three point 249 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: thirty for kickoff. Yeah, like we don't kick off games 250 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: before three thirty. I'm sorry, I didn't know this wedding 251 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: was happening in Iceland. Man. Anyway, we continue, an unnamed 252 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: person chimes in, so how long is the ceremony going 253 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: to be? Fifteen minutes? And then the defender of the 254 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: wedding comes back, I mean probably if that we all 255 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: know that's a lie. By the way, I hope everyone 256 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: in this group text and everyone associated with this conversation 257 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: who may be on the fence, knows there is no 258 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: wedding you're being drugged to in the middle of a 259 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon in the fall. It's gonna last fifteen minutes, 260 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: none at all. Period. They have paid so much money 261 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: for any venue because it's in such high demand because 262 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: we live in a six society of people who choose 263 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: to get married on Saturdays in the fall, that you 264 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: got to pay a pretty penny to even reserve one. 265 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: No one reserves a wedding venue for fifteen minutes that 266 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: time of year. That's bait. Do not take it. You're 267 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna have the hook in your cheek and you're gonna 268 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: be there at four point thirty, and you're gonna be 269 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: there at four forty five and then four point fifty. 270 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Everyone smiles, and you better smile too, or else people 271 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: are criticizing you, from your girlfriend, your family, to random 272 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: friends you don't even know the last name of two 273 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: days later, saying you know, you were kind of selfish, 274 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and then they drop this me me, me, me of 275 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: all people hops in the text message in all caps, 276 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: mind you, and she drops the statement that is just 277 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: a non starter for me. This is on the no 278 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: fly list. If you see this, shoot it down immediately. 279 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: She says, football happens every year. They're getting married only once. 280 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: And at that point Jesse came to me and he 281 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: was smart to do so, and he said, I've tried 282 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: your approach. I've tried to reason with these people. They 283 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: will not be reasoned with. What should I say? And 284 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: I went with my go to line, and I told Jesse, 285 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: feel free to copy and paste it. So, friends, anyone 286 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: out there listening who's in a similar predicament you have, 287 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: anyone come to you and dare you to skip their 288 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: wedding or not be excited about their wedding. Here's all 289 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you tell them. And then you're gonna drop the mic 290 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: and you're gonna walk away, because at this point the 291 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: debate is over whether they know it or not. You 292 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: look them in the eye and you tell them, I'm 293 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: not the one making the mistake here. You've made the 294 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: mistake of thinking your wedding is as important to the 295 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: rest of us as it is to you. That's the 296 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: sound of the mic. That's the sound of you walking away. 297 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: That's it, the end, That's all that needs to be said. 298 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: So Jesse, I can see the audience right now, we 299 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: have a majority head bobbing, which means majority approval of 300 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: the tact that we have chosen to go with. We 301 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: pray for you. We're in this together. Don't you ever 302 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: forget that. But if October fifth rolls around and we 303 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: still haven't solved this predicament. Remember the one formula that 304 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: has worked and will until the end of time two 305 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: words bomb threat. I have to be honest with you. 306 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most powerful PSAs that 307 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: we have ever delivered together on this podcast. We move 308 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: on now, Clayton up next. If Oklahoma and Texas do 309 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: go to the SEC West, along with Missouri and Bama 310 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: and Auburn to the east, how would it affect the 311 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: momentum of the recruiting talent exodus from Texas that you 312 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: have mentioned, Clayton. I don't know. I don't know how 313 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the divisions are going to shake out, but I do 314 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: want to touch on this whole Texas recruiting thing. I'm 315 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: not going to say myth. It's not a myth. It's 316 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: a fact that Texas has not been able to lock 317 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: down as much in state talent as they want to. 318 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: I think it is largely a myth that it's been 319 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: because they have a big twelve sticker on their helmet. 320 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: And the reason that I think it's not because of that, 321 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: and the reason I don't think that their recruiting problems 322 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: are all just going to be magically solved by joining 323 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: the SEC is because I've watched what Ohio State's done. 324 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State is not in Texas, nor are they in 325 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the SEC. But yet they have freely walked into Texas 326 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: for years and taken a lot of huge in state talent. 327 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: So my question is, what is the real limiting factor here? 328 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I think the real limiting factor is Texas has just 329 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: not been an attractive enough product for enough kids. They've 330 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: gotten good classes. It's not like they've been recruiting in 331 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: the thirties. They've gotten good classes, but it hasn't been 332 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: to the point where a Jeffrey O. Kuda looks at 333 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Ohio State and looks at Texas and says, Nope, I'm 334 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: staying home, man, I'm going to play for the Horns. 335 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: It hasn't been to that degree. I don't think it 336 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: has to do so much with the big twelve sticker 337 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: as I think it's had to do with a longhorn, 338 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: not the logo turning people off. I mean the product, 339 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: the overall program and the state thereof at the time. 340 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: I think that's what's turned kids off. So the answer 341 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: to this is not the SEC. The answer is Steve Sarkisian. 342 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: If Steve Sarkisian is everything we hope he is, and 343 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: believe me, I'm pulling for Texas to be good again 344 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: and be great again. Actually, if he is what we 345 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: think he could be and what we hope he will be, 346 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: all of this stuff will look like it got solved 347 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: by going to the SEC. It will really have been 348 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: solved by Steve Sarkisian resurrecting the program and taking it 349 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: from good to great. That's it. It's that easy and 350 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: it's that difficult, which I also reminds me before I 351 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: move on here. I had some Texas fans reach out 352 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: and claim I was hating on the program the other night, 353 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: and I wasn't, of course, because I don't hate Texas. However, 354 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: I went back and listened to the show, and I 355 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: will admit, if it was the first time that I 356 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: had ever watched one of my shows or listen to 357 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: one of my shows, it would have sounded like I 358 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: had some spite or hate in my heart for Texas, 359 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: And it was really sarcasm. It wasn't that, and I 360 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: was really just trying to be animated in a couple 361 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: of points. But if you're a Texas fan out there 362 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: and you took it that way, I do have a 363 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: statement to read, So hold on, all right, here's my statement. 364 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I state my regret. Okay, with that out of the way, 365 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: we move on. Gauge is up next. He said, My 366 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: question is what are your thoughts on the culture that 367 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Oregon Football and Mario Cristobaul have built. Do you think 368 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: Oregon is flying under the radar as a casual fan 369 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: down south? What do you think the ceiling and floor 370 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: are for this program the next five years? Well, Gauge, 371 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: I think that has changed rapidly, hasn't it. You got 372 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: to tell me what the PAC twelve is over the 373 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: next five years before I can tell you what Oregon's 374 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: ceiling or floor is. And you also got to tell 375 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: me if they're gonna be in the PAC twelve or 376 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: what is the PAC twelve even gonna be called? Are 377 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: they gonna merge with someone? Are they gonna dissolve entirely? 378 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Are they just gonna be freestanding as they are at 379 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: the moment. I don't know now. My general take and 380 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: we can only go on what current reality is. My 381 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: take is the ceiling there's a national championship. I mean, 382 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: if they keep building the way they're building, especially along 383 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the lines of scrimmage to go along with the perimeter 384 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: skill talent they've masked up there, and they are in 385 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: no position to slow down. I think the well, the 386 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: first question will be obviously with the conference thing. The 387 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: second question will be, does ty Thompson answer the long 388 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: term question form at quarterback and do they keep bringing 389 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: in quarterback cycle after cycle? And then the third question is, yeah, 390 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: do they build that championship caliber depth along the lines 391 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, which I think they're well on their way 392 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: to doing. I've been so impressed with what Oregon's been doing. 393 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: I think NIL is obviously right in their wheelhouse. So 394 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: their ceiling is national championship. The floor doesn't so much 395 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: have to do with whether they choke away games or 396 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the code staff isn't what it's cracked up to be. 397 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: It's all about this conference realignment stuff. It's changed the 398 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: answer to every question along these lines. And my biggest fear, 399 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: if I were an organ fan, my biggest fear would be, 400 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: what if the future of our program is changing for 401 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: the worst, and it's through no fault of our own, 402 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: and there's nothing that we can do. We're powerless to 403 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: change it. That would be my worst fear. Now, in reality, 404 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: Oregon's always going to have a home. Oregon's going to 405 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: have a seat at the head table. But you know, 406 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: you could be talking about the difference between having a 407 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: seat at what is currently the PAC twelve table versus 408 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: having a seat at some kind of merged version of 409 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve Big twelve where you become like the 410 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: West Coast version of West Virginia and every one of 411 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: your road games is at least one thousand miles away, 412 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: And that wouldn't be ideal, but it may be reality. 413 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't. When I say worry 414 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: about it, it really waste your time to worry about 415 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: it because you can't do anything about it. But I 416 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: would be concerned about it if I were concerned. That's 417 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: what would have me concerned. As for what Oregon can control, 418 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: they are operating at about as high a level as 419 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: we've seen them operate, and that includes the Chip Kelly era. 420 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: They have not played for a national championship under Christobal, 421 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: but they are building an even more impressive talent roster 422 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: than obviously Chip Kelly ever did or Mark Helfrich did, 423 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: and so I like where they're headed. They just have 424 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: to keep heading that way and have firm footing with 425 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: which to keep heading that way. All right, let's roll on. 426 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: Jason has a very interesting observations. Last question here, it's 427 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: about Kevin Warren. It's about what went down in the 428 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Big Ten last year, and it's about how we should 429 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: view Kevin Warren and how we should discuss him and 430 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: treat him moving forward. And we shall discuss indeed right 431 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: after this. So here's what Jason said. Jason said, I 432 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: think we need to lay off Kevin Warren. For those unfamiliar, 433 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: that is the Big Ten commissioner. He says, I get 434 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: that he's made mistakes. To be frank, it was a 435 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: disaster in the Big Ten last year. I get that. 436 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did it right, but I'm just 437 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: giving them a pass due to the unknown nature of 438 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: what we dealt with in the last year. I don't 439 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: think Kevin Warren was trying to hurt the Big Ten. 440 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: I think he legitimately believed what he did was best 441 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: for the conference. So I give him a pass because 442 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: none of us really knew how to deal with that situation. 443 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: I believe the true test for Kevin Warren's leadership is 444 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: going to show here in how he responds to the 445 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: SEC going with Oklahoma and Texas. Can he swoop in 446 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: and position the Big Ten into a situation where they 447 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: can survive as a conference and not allow the SEC 448 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: to get too far ahead. What are your thoughts? All right? 449 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: So it's important because I know we have a lot 450 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: of new listeners and maybe you weren't paying attention so 451 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: much because, oh, I don't know, a huge pandemic was 452 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: going on that impacted ju life last year, so maybe 453 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: you weren't paying attention. Here's how it went down broad 454 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Strokes fifteen second version. The Big Ten announces their league schedule, 455 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: and then the same week they abruptly just announced we're 456 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: postponing the season. There will be no revisiting this. It's final. 457 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: And they expected the SEC and the Big twelve and 458 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the ACC and the PAC twelve to all follow. The 459 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: PAC twelve did because they're attached to the hip. The 460 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: rest of the conferences said no, we're cool, we'll make 461 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: our own decision. That was the first hiccup in the 462 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: whole plan up there. Then the second hiccup was when 463 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: they floated out some quote about mile carditis being the 464 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: contributing factor to why they wanted to cancel the season. 465 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: And then other doctors stepped forward and said, actually, the 466 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: science and data you are using is totally flawed. And 467 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: one of them, even I think was with the University 468 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: of Michigan when he said it. And so then you 469 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: have a second hiccup, and then no one from the 470 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: league office for like ten or eleven days offers anything 471 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: in terms of a substantive rebuttal. Things got very suspect 472 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: on how procedurally they went about canceling the season as 473 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: opposed to how the Big Ten bylaws say they're supposed 474 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: to cancel it. And this was not Kevin Warren. Kevin 475 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: Warren was acting at the pest of presidents and chancellors 476 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. It's no different than Roger Goodell 477 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: and the invisible, silent league owners in the NFL. So 478 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: a ton of blame to go around here. Well, what 479 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: quickly became apparent is these people, I mean, it was 480 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: a pure Ivory Tower crowd. It was a bow tie 481 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: ascot kind of crowd, Make no mistake, because they did 482 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: not expect an ounce of pushback. These people actually expected 483 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: to postpone the season, not give you or the players 484 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: for that matter, legitimate reason why, and they expected you 485 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: to just deal with it because they thought the rest 486 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: of the country was going to follow along. They thought 487 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the conferences were going to follow along. 488 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: Well they didn't. Now, if you would have had substantive 489 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: reasoning that you would have brought to the forefront, if 490 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: you had medical evidence that you would have brought to 491 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the forefront, people would have had to shut up. But 492 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: that was the entire takeaway. That was my takeaway, over 493 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: and over again on Late Kick. They kept citing this 494 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: critical medical evidence that they claimed removed any doubt. It 495 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: was incontrovertible that they had to make the decision they made. 496 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: But then when the public asked for the evidence, they 497 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: didn't bring it to the forefront. Now that makes no sense. 498 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: If you have this evidence medically that is so pressing 499 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: and so damning, Well at that point, shouldn't you be 500 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: rushing to the nearest microphone and the nearest press conference 501 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: to inform the public of what you know? They didn't 502 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: have it. That was what it boiled down to. They 503 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't have it, and so then they float mile carditis 504 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: out there, and then doctors from all across the country 505 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: refute that, and then the SEC says no, we're playing, 506 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: and the ACC and the Big twelve do two. And 507 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: they didn't do it recklessly, they did it responsibly. Did 508 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: you notice how the seasons played out? Did you notice 509 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: how many games they got in and those conferences? Did 510 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: you notice they were able to have conference championships? They 511 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: were able to safely conduct business? And then the Big 512 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: ten announces we may revisit this, and then they revisit it, 513 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: and then they announced we are going to start our season. 514 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: It's going to be delayed, we're going to have conference 515 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: only games, we're going to have empty stadiums, but we're 516 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: going to reverse our decision that we said was non 517 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: reversible and we're going to have a season. Okay, So Jason, 518 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: that's the point we're at, and we remember how the 519 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: rest played out. Now, look, even though it was botched horribly, 520 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: at this point in time, you could look back and 521 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: you could say, well, in retrospect, maybe none of us 522 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: would have handled it any better. That's fair, I would 523 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: argue that. But that's fair if you want to have 524 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: that stance. So to this point, we agree. Up until 525 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: last week when Kevin Warren steps to the podium at 526 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Big Ten media days and then goes on Big ten 527 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: Network and with a straight face says, if they had 528 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: it to do all over again, that handle it the 529 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: exact same way. This is with all the facts. This 530 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: is with the benefit of hindsight. They get to look 531 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: back and see how it all happened, and the man 532 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: says would handle it the exact same way. No, Jason, 533 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't give him a pass. That is a clownish 534 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: thing to say, and it's evidence of very poor leadership 535 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: to not be able to admit when you were wrong. 536 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: And that's the past. We can't change the past. But now, Jason, 537 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: what you said is very true. The next big test, 538 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: not the first. The next big test, and the biggest 539 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: one of all for Kevin Warren, will be how he 540 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: handles conference realignment, because that's it. It is sink or 541 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: swim time. Not that the Big ten would disappear, but 542 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: the Big ten is not looking to merely survive. The 543 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Big Ten's looking to match the SEC step for step. Well, 544 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: you cannot do that unless you also take bold action 545 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: in the very near future. If that means adding teams, 546 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: if that means going and poaching teams, that means combining 547 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: with other conferences. You got to do what you got 548 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: to do. Here's the question, who's actually going to be 549 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: guiding the ship in the Big Ten. I don't think 550 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: this is a room Kevin Warren is ready to walk 551 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: into and negotiate on equal footing with other power players. 552 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that at all. And so I wonder 553 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: how the Big Ten's going to go about this with 554 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: the memory fresh in our mind of what happened the 555 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: last time these people try to collectively tackle a major task. 556 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: That is Jason, the million dollar question. You are right 557 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: about that. Let's move on here. I had an interesting question. 558 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep the name anonymous, but it was 559 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: essentially someone asking about public speaking. This is someone who 560 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: has to speak publicly, and they were asking in terms 561 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: of how you present yourself on the show and engage 562 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: with others. Is that something you worked on? Can you 563 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: share some pointers? There? Are there any books or are 564 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: there any techniques that you've used for refining yourself in 565 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: social presence? This is an important question because a lot 566 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: of you have to do this. A lot of you 567 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: were in college and you'll have to take a public 568 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: speaking course. But there are many of you who are 569 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: terrified of public speaking, and there are many of you 570 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: who aren't terrified, but are still very uncomfortable being in 571 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: public and being in front of a crowd. Here's what 572 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I learned early about myself. I had no problem being 573 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: in front of a crowd, no problem whatsoever. However, I 574 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: think I have borderline social anxiety. I don't know that 575 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: I am qualified to diagnose that. I've never had it diagnosed. 576 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable at all in a normal social setting. 577 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about if we're at a party, or we're 578 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: at a get together, we're over at someone's house. I 579 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: look normal, I can act normal. I'm not saying I'm 580 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: over in the corner, curled up in the fetal position 581 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: most of the time. But I am not comfortable in 582 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: those settings. If you're at a party with me, you're 583 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: a lot more likely to see me over in a corner, 584 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: pulling someone aside, trying to talk to him, running out 585 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: the clock before it's time to go home. Then you 586 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: are seeing me being the center of conversation in the 587 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: middle of the room. That makes me very uncomfortable. I 588 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: don't know why, but it does. But when I have 589 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: an audience and i'm speaking to the audience or with 590 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: the audience, if I'm on a stage or if I'm 591 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: on set, it doesn't impact me at all. Now, I've 592 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: never had anyone able to explain that to me, because 593 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: it seems like it should be the total opposite. Most 594 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: people are totally comfortable being in a social setting, and 595 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: they're petrified to be on the stage or be on air, 596 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: or be in front of a live microphone or camera. 597 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: That's what scares them. So I guess that's normal, and 598 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: I'm not normal, and that's the way that is. But 599 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the biggest skill. If you're going down 600 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: any path that is going to have you speaking with 601 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: an audience, and I use the word with intentionally, I'll 602 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: tell you why in just a second. But if you're 603 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: talking about performing, if you're talking about delivering speeches, public speaking, 604 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: if you have your own show or your own podcast, 605 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: here's the key. It is the easiest thing in the 606 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: world to talk. If you have working vocal cords and 607 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: you can open your mouth and you have somewhat mastered 608 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: any kind of language, you can talk. Talking is not hard, 609 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: and it's not hard to talk at someone. That's where 610 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: most people stop. Even if you listen to shows. Even 611 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: if you go listen to a lot of people who 612 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: would call themselves a host and who would call all 613 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: themselves communicators, because this is all communication. At the end 614 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: of the day. They talk at an audience. Well, that's 615 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: not skill. That's just what I said. It's talking at 616 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: an audience. And that is what has been the huge 617 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: paradigm shift. Not to get too deep in the weeds, 618 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: but you've noticed this. I know you guys have noticed 619 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: it because a lot of you, when we talk, you 620 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: bring it up. You voluntarily bring it up. And what 621 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: you say. I had someone yesterday say this to me. 622 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: I got so tired of people yelling at me on TV, 623 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: or people kind of wagging their finger at me and 624 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: pointing at me and kind of talking at me. And 625 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: that's the key. That's what the industry became. That's what 626 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: the sports media industry became. For quite a while, it 627 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: was people who knew there were a precious lack of 628 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: options out there, so you either had to go to 629 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: them or there were no other options, and so they 630 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: could afford to act however they wanted to, and they 631 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: chose to talk at you. And the key is not 632 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: talking at anyone. The key is talking with. The key 633 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: is making this thing sound like we're eating lunch together. 634 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: The key is making it feel like we're in our 635 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: seven of a road trip and you and I are 636 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: in the front seat on I forty headed through Fort Smith, Arkansas, 637 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: and we're just talking. That's all it is. It's talking 638 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: with That's all communication with an audience should be. It's participatory. 639 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: It is talking with and that's the key. Whether you're 640 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: on stage, or whether you're giving a public speech in 641 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: a classroom, or whether you're hosting a podcast or doing 642 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: a talk show, can you learn to talk with people 643 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: instead of talking at them? And then, obviously the follow 644 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: up there is it's easy to talk with someone, or 645 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: it's easy enough to talk with someone if you're in 646 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: the gym working out, or if you're out of a 647 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: steakhouse somewhere and they're sitting two feet away from you 648 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and you're face to face. How do you talk with 649 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: someone when all you have in front of you is 650 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: a microphone like I have right now. I am talking 651 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: in a microphone, and there is not a soul in 652 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: this room. Same way in the studio when we do 653 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Late Kick, there's no one else in there. Director Collins 654 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: in the other room. I don't have a soul in there. 655 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: It's me by myself. Well, the trick is, don't talk 656 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: to the camera. You just talk through the camera. I'm 657 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: not talking to this microphone. I'm talking through this microphone. 658 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: You have to reach through it. You have to look 659 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: through the camera lens. You have to replace that camera 660 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: lens with the viewer. You have to replace the microphone 661 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: with the listener. This is just some device that has 662 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: to be in front of you, but your audience figuratively, 663 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: that's who's there. And if you start thinking like that, 664 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: I found it really changed the way that I delivered it. 665 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: You'd start speaking in we versus me terminology. And there 666 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: are a lot of other subtleties that you can read 667 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: about in terms of public speaking. But if you just 668 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: master that concept, if you can get that out of 669 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: the way, then you start learning about techniques and all 670 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. But speaking with instead of speaking to I 671 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: think that's probably the biggest key. We wrap up here. 672 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Let me remind you something. There are things coming. I 673 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: know I've said this for two months. I promise you 674 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: these announcements are very soon to come. You're gonna love them. 675 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: But I encourage you. I have seen a really big 676 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: surge and subscriptions to the twenty four to seven Sports 677 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, but the social channels which I'm really trying 678 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: to build right now, Twitter and Instagram at Late Kick, Josh, 679 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: I've really seen the surge there and I've noticed it. 680 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Let's continue to build those. Those are 681 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: so imperative for many reasons now and in the future. 682 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Those are imperative. Let's continue to build those, and especially 683 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: on the Instagram side again, when I am on the 684 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: road this fall, you are really gonna love how we 685 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: leverage that platform, so thank you for that. Also, the 686 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: five star reviews. We're headed for two thousand and five 687 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: star reviews on the podcast. This thing is surging. I 688 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: told you the story last week. We didn't even really 689 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: focus on it to begin with, but now we very 690 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: much are. We're in top ten on the college football 691 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: charts and the football charts in general. I didn't know 692 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: this until last week, so thank you for that. Please 693 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: continue the momentum, bring five friends with you, and we'll 694 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: continue to roll them out every single day for you 695 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: until then. For producer Jordan, I'm Josh Paint, and have 696 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: yourself as a great rest of your day, and God 697 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: bless