WEBVTT - REPLAY: Kinky Bottoms with Ross Mathews 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.800 Okay, hi Catherine, Oh hi Chelsea, I got hello. Welcome 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.000 to the studio. We're in studio together in Los Angeles, 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:08.120 Los Angeles. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:09.480 I love when we get to be together. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.560 I know, I know, it's so nice. Ye and now 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.200 that we sit on the same side of the window, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:19.159 especially especially not especially guys. I did an announcement on 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.639 my Instagram a PSAs I like to call them about 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:25.600 the words especially and espresso, that they do not have 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.319 exes in them, that they are s's. Actually, you know, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.160 there were a couple of comments about it's like, oh, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.239 that's being really racist, thinking about how different cultures use 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.720 language and different educational systems, and it's a socioeconomic classes 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.879 thing to say. I'm like, not at all. That's that 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.479 is a thing that like white college educated people are 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.680 abusing that word when they say especially, I don't. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.040 Because I get it wrong. I got it wrong. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.559 Did you say especially honestly don't remember? Well exhibit A. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.760 Then I mean it's just can tell anyway. Oh fuck, I. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:01.000 Liked your regime regimen correction because I mean, man, I 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.400 hear it all the time and it drives me nuts. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.160 Yeah, so and then why is that not racist? Regime 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.160 A regiment and or classes. If it's like it's like, no, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.280 you're correcting grammar or grammar should be used correctly and uniformly. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:14.160 Yeah. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.600 Anyway, I love language and that's my passion. And I 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.360 have just announced new stand updates for my Little Big 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.880 Bitch tour. Guys. I announced twenty five new cities. These 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.440 are probably a lot of the cities people have been 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.120 mentioning in the comments. I start out in East Hampton. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:38.000 I go to New York, d C, Durham, North Carolina, LA, Phoenix, Cleveland, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Chicago, Madison, Portland, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.520 to name just some. There are more. You can go 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.880 to Chelsea Handler dot com. I am on tour and 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.200 I have dates coming up for the next three months 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.640 and then more dates coming up in the fall. So 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.960 those have all been announced. They're on my Instagram page, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.040 or you can go to Chelsea Hamler dot com. Thank you. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.760 My guest today is an old friend from Chelsea Lately 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.559 Days who everyone will know. He's on RuPaul's Drag Race. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.600 He is the co host of The Drew Barrymore Show, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.120 and he has his own new podcast which is called 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.840 Hello Ross Ross Matthews. Everybody, Hi, Hi, Hi. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:11.760 Who's there. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.040 I'm so happy to see you. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.160 Hi, cutie, Patunity, fresh. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.040 And fruity, extra fruity. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.200 What's up? 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.640 Where are you in? 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:21.919 La? 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.040 I am? Where are you Palm Springs? 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.360 No? No, no, we're We bought a house in Long Island, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.400 so we're here because we're starting Drew up again. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.320 I thought you bought a place in Palm Springs. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.360 So I have a house in Palm Springs. And then 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.440 when I came here for drew and then married, wellie, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.959 he's faced in Long Island because that's where he works here. Okay, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.640 So we bought a house here and I love it 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.120 out here. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.760 Oh that's great, and so are you going to keep 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:44.840 your place in Palm Springs? 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.760 We're back and forth. My brother lives there. It's like 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.360 a compound, you know. My brother lives there with the dogs. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:51.120 He watches them. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:53.280 Cute. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.440 I love it. Congratulations, thank you. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.720 There's so much to catch up on. And Hi. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.440 By the way, Hi, this is my producer, Katherine. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Hi, Katherine, everybody. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.280 Ross Matthews is here today. Hello, Hello Ross Matthews. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.000 It is so good to see you. It has been 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.960 too long, I mean, even though we did get to 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.440 get together and have like a happy hour thing not 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.920 that long ago. Yeah it was you remember, Yeah, I 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.840 was there. You were there, Yeah, yeah, New York City. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.680 I what barber? Were we at the famous Ritz Saint Regis? 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.880 Saint Regis? That's right, what's that bar called? 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.760 I never remember? But they have the popcorn in my 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.760 life there, remember that truffle popcorn that I have since emulated. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.679 I figured out how to make it so good. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.400 We had a little reunion. It was Fortune and Jack's 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:41.280 and Wellie Ross's now husband, and Joe Boy myself and 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:42.960 we all went and it was so much fun and 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.640 it was like a little Yeah, that was a really 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:45.119 fun night. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.720 I saw those pictures on the Instagram. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.080 Uh they were on the ground. Well, Joe Koy and 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.520 I have broken up. Ross. I'm sure that you've heard. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.880 I know, I did hear. I texted you. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:54.400 I know. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.480 I love you both, and that one, that one hurt. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.520 I have to say. Did it hurt me as much 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.600 as it hurt you? Hurt me more? 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.320 Maybe? I don't know. No, it hurt me. It was. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.120 It was painful. It was you know, it's hard to 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.480 break up anytime, especially when you you know, thought you 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.040 were gonna be with somebody for a long time. It's 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.240 hard to like, go, wait a second, this isn't what 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.200 I thought it was gonna be. That sucks, it's not. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.760 Also, I think so many people invested in you guys, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.960 do you know. I think it was it was something 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.839 we needed after the pandemic, and you know what it 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.240 was still it was beautiful. It was beautiful for what 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.520 it was and when it was. And I hope your 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.120 heart is good. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.200 Yeah it is. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:30.920 I'm good now. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.719 I feel a lot of I've healed a lot in 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.000 the last couple of months. It's only been a couple months, 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.560 but I feel a lot. I think now we were 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.559 talking about this on another podcast. I have to say, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.120 like having the skills from going to therapy about how 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.919 to deal with grieving and the end of a relationship 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.919 and to act like an adult instead of like a 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.920 kid is the best gift ever. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:51.200 Too. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.080 Like, I love the way that I have behaved, and 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.800 I can't say that about many times in my life. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.159 I've been there for some of those times. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.320 You can attest to my bad behavior. But like, especially 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.640 with breakups, when there's drama, or there's hurt feelings, or 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.880 there's egos involved, it's so easy to lower your vibration 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.880 and to fight nasty instead of taking the high road 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.120 and always just being like, it's okay, it's okay. It 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:19.839 didn't work out. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.600 Can we go deep for a second, because I had 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.920 a thought, Sure, I think grief grief, and I'm someone 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.960 who's dealt with grief. Right, I lost both my parents. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.120 It's tough, you know, you have to learn that you've 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.599 done that as well. I think grief is grief, whether 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.400 it's a breakup or a death or a loss, it is. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.359 It is what it is, and I feel like the 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.160 first time you really experience grief is how you approach 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.159 it for the rest of forever, you know what I mean, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.200 until you do the work to change it. And so 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.440 if you first experienced grief as a young kid, maybe 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.800 you went back there even in adulthood until you learned 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.880 how to navigate it correctly, and you did. It's the 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.720 young kid. I think about that all the time, that 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.279 you went through that when you're. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.960 So yeah, that's true. Glenna Doyle said something like that. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.720 She had heard something like sometimes you recreate all of 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.880 your childhood trauma to try and correct it and correct 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.000 your reaction to it, and the ending to things, and yeah, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.800 I agree with that. I mean, the only thing you 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.720 can ever hope for in this lifetime is to become 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.240 more evolved. I mean, for me, I always just want 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.440 to get more informed, more evolved, and become a better 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:16.440 version of myself. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.880 Right, Yeah, And you fuck it up the first time, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.359 in the second time, the third time, and by like 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.479 the fourth time, let's get our shit together, right, And 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.520 that that's kind of life. If you can buy the 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.760 fourth time kind of figure it out, then you're you're 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:27.320 on the right track. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.880 And also, I think something that's really valid is having 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.440 an interest. We were just talking to somebody who thought, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.120 you know, therapy was self indulgent or navel gazing or unnecessary. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.960 It's like, it is so important to be with somebody 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.920 who has the capacity and the knowledge to be smart 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.160 enough to understand that there are things inside of us 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.080 that need to be examined, that there are you have 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.640 to self examine. You have to understand why you do 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.640 things so that you don't hurt people and that you 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.600 don't behave in a childish way when you're an adult, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.360 you know, like that's no funny. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.680 You have to do that. But I think if you 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.159 want to be in any sort of elevated relationship with 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.760 yourself or with anybody else that really can go anywhere, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.280 then you have to do the work. I mean some 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.040 people are fine just sitting there, not examining things, not 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.360 working it out. But I promise you and you're you know, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.520 I look at your growth just in terms of like 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.680 your heart, just knowing you for how many years has 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.120 it been now almost twenty years? 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:22.560 Probably? 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.520 Yeah, probably? You know. I see it in you, and 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.000 not that you needed to, but I see a different 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.400 version of you now, an evolved version. I think we 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.120 all do, you know? And I love that you're so 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.040 open about that dream. Well, I mean it's it is 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.280 a compliment, it is. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.880 I know you've been through some difficult breakups and now 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.880 you're in a real happy relationship. How would did that 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.680 work for you? That kind of arc? 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.360 I think you have to be grateful and sort of 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.280 make such peace with whatever you've been through because it 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.520 does sort of form who you are. And I have 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.920 been able. You know, I met my husband, which is 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.960 so weird to say, but my husband I met almost 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.240 three years ago, and if I hadn't met him when 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.240 I met him as a human, I was when I 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.080 met him. I wouldn't have been ready for what he 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.080 has done for me in terms of holding a mirror 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.520 up to me and holding a mirror up to the world. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.160 You know, is a person of color, a gay immigrant 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.240 person of color, who's worked his way up in this 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.400 life to become a doctor of education. And he just 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.360 showed me what that journey was like. And it made 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.880 me understand what being a white man here was like 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.640 and what being a flawed human is like. And he's 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.000 just made me so much better. And I wouldn't have 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.080 been ready for it if I hadn't gone through all 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.600 of it, you know, And here I am. I think 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:29.200 I'm ready. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.040 Oh. I love that his husband's name is Wellington, which 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.319 I love. I love a name like Wellington. It sounds 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.880 like he should be on Oh what's that stupid team? 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.120 Ye Abby well That but the. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:45.240 Other the updated Child Bridgerton show, Yeah, Bridgerton. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:46.760 You know. The best thing about well is, you know, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.000 he's a very important educational thinker and all that. But 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.320 every time I go what do you want for dinner? 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.920 He goes, you want beef Wellington, And then he shakes it. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.080 He goes, you like your beef Wellington? Well done? 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.800 Oh yeah, so Ross is on Drew Barrymore show. They're 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.680 a delightful combo platter, I must say. And you guys 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.400 are going back? What season are you going back to? Yeah? 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.040 Season three we're starting. And you know, Chelsea, you've known 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.760 me for a long time. And when I grew up 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.760 in a little farmtown, I used to watch Regis and 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.360 Kathy Lee just like talk and think like, oh my god, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.080 they get to like talk to each other and then 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.160 interview celebrities. That's what I want to do and it's 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.600 been the goal forever and I can't believe I get 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.560 to do it every day with Drew Barrymore. It's crazy 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.680 you claim on the show, right, and it was so 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.240 nice to have you on. And she's just a dream. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:36.160 Yeah, Drew's a very special, unique individual. Drew has gone 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.199 through her sets of trauma and yeah, all of this stuff, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.240 but she always manages to be sunny side up is 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.959 how I would describe her. She's always Yeah, I mean 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.079 she can you know, she's not perfect in terms of 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.880 like being in a happy moood all the time, but 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.640 her genuine spirit is. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.719 That her like neutral vibrates above happy, you know what 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.760 I mean? Just when she's in that gear and I 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.640 kind of do that too, But you know, she's somebody 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.400 who again has put in the work. Can you think 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.280 about where she's been? Sometimes I'll bring it up, you know, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.120 what were you doing when you were thirteen? And she'll 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.520 be like, I was in the mental institution. Oh okay, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.520 well I understood, so, but she's really like been through 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.560 it and come out on this place just full of 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.520 gratitude and not a Pollyanna, not cheesy. She really comes 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.160 by honestly, but she's the real deal. You know, I 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.960 didn't know her before doing the show. I just sort 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.160 of popped in one day and we like clicked. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.600 How long did it? How long did it take you 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:24.360 guys to click? 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.360 About about three and a half minutes, I think. And 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.960 then she was like can you come back tomorrow? 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:29.480 And I was like, yore? 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.720 And then they said can you come back next week? 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:31.080 Okay? 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.000 And then I just never left Chelsea. It's like, yeah, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.240 when I did your show, I just showed up. Same 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.240 thing on Rue Paul, same thing on Jay Leno. I 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.520 just sort of show up and then people are like, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.280 I guess we'll keep them. I'm like a rescue dog, 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:41.959 you know, they're like, I like him. I guess I'm 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:42.480 used to him. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.600 That's cute. That's cute. So what goes on on Long Island? 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.960 What part of Long Island are you on? 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.680 So we're on the north shore. I don't know anything about. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.160 All I knew about Long Island is that it was 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.599 far away from California. But uh, we just bought a 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.320 house here because my husband, like I said, he works 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.920 out here and then it's a quick train run into 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.280 the city. But I love it. I thought it was 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.920 sort of like cheesy, and then I realized, oh, this 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.920 is where the Barefoot Kntessa lives. And then it all started. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.280 It all started making sense to me. I was like, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.960 I can have burrata and capre say and you know, 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.360 I could flip my denim collar up and life is 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.720 gonna be great. So I love it here. And you 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.040 know what, can I tell you a quick story that 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.840 I don't know if what I'm gonna tell you anyway. So 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.600 I had a dream. I've always been scared of cats 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.679 because there's this terrible neighbor cat that was so mean 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.600 to me growing up. So I just scared. And then 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.800 about fifteen years ago, I had a dream about a 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.160 gray cat. I've thought about this gray cat for fifteen years, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.520 you know, thinking about one day a gray cat's going 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.800 to show up. I bought this house on Long Island. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.480 The morning after we moved in, I walked into the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.000 backyard and a gray cat walks up to me and 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.240 starts nuzzling me. And I named her Joy until I 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:41.960 found out that she's a boy. So now it's Joy Boy, 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.720 and Joy Boy is here every single day, and it 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.600 means to me I'm on the right track, right I'm 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:50.360 supposed to be. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:55.040 That's such a cute story. I'm into all of that shit. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.559 I'm all into symbolism and signs. Catherine and I just 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:03.559 started reading this book about this neuroscientist who basically discovers 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.959 mysticism and spirituality and the meaning of the universe and 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.760 which scientists are like, no, nothing ever, nothing ever happens 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.800 because it's supposed to. Everything's an accident. Everything's an accident 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.280 unless it's proven by science. And she just had her 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.720 you know, switch flipped. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.280 Yeah, either way, I think it works. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:19.600 Either way. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:19.920 I don't know. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:20.880 Well, for you it does. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.000 I'll take what I can get. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.520 She had her switch flipped, and she's like, oh no, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.040 there's like a cosmic element to everything, and there's symbolism, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.280 and there's premissary premonitiary premonitionary premonitionary dreams. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.680 I think it's just missionary missionary premonitionary dreams. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.400 Like my friend Wendy always has premonitionary dreams. She dreams 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.120 something and then it happens, and it's like, what's that about? 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.880 You know what I mean? Because we all have a 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.080 like a psychic ability, and I just I love that stuff. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.400 I think that the more open minded you are, the 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:51.000 more you see. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.319 It's so well put. I used to roll my eyes 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.360 at like crystals and bullshit. I always called it that 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.000 until I went through my big breakup and then I 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.439 someone i'm a friend brought me to a crystal store 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.240 and like literally a piece of stone changed my life. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.320 It's moltivite and I just have hung on to it. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.120 And I thought to myself, you know, if the moon 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.600 can pull the tide, there's something going on with energy. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.800 So if you can just accept it as opposed to 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.040 try to explain it to yourself, Like I like what 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.120 you said, you see things other people can't see. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.000 Yeah, if you are to walk into a room where 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.079 like two people have just been arguing. You feel it. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.839 That's energy, that's all that is. When they say you 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.319 can cut it with a knife, it's true. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.920 Well, it's also like when somebody fakes their energy when 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.520 they come in and they try to be happy, but 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.559 you can tell something's gone on and they're not in 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.360 a good spot. That's that's energy, and it's completely transferable 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.880 and well and it's transparent, like you can totally see 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.959 right through it. So yeah, people who don't take that 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.719 seriously or think my beliefs are my beliefs and it's 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.480 intransigent and I'm not willing to change my opinion, It's like, well, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.400 then you're wrong. Definitely. If you're not willing to have 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.160 your mind change, then you're wrong. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.559 Yeah yeah yeah. And if you just can accept the 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.920 fact that even you're in stack is energy, then there 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.560 you go. Yeah, that's right there. We've all felt that thing, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:04.800 you know. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:09.079 Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely so Ross. On our podcast, we 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.040 take callers and we give advice, and these are real 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.560 life situations and serious problems. So you better fucking have 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.160 a shot at tequila and get ready. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.960 Okay, Okay, I'm just all I have here is water, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:21.720 But I'm going to be hydra. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.480 That's my breast milk that I said to you. 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.920 Yeah, yeah, it's utterly delicious. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.920 Think it's almond milk. Actually, I pump fresh almond milk 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.600 every morning. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:31.920 That's nuts. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.440 Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.360 back for some. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.520 Okay, Ross and I are going to give each other 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.000 a little rubber ducky massage. Now we'll be right back, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.800 and we're back. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.440 I'm so fast. All right, Well, our first I just want. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.400 To mention before you start that there is a neon 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.840 sign behind Ross with his name written in cursive and 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.480 pink neon, and I would expect nothing fucking less. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.440 Thank you, it's all. I have a remote control and 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:07.920 I can change that to blue if you want. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:08.240 Boom. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:08.640 Look at that. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.640 I got this on at a little boutique called Amazon. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.360 Oh, I've never heard of Amazon. It's cute, and I 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.360 also had no idea it was pronounced like that, so 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:19.480 look at me learning. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:20.680 Yeah, I think it's French. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.960 Well, our first question comes from sad friend. Dear Chelsea, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.640 one of my good friends, someone who I considered my 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.520 best friend in college, just unfollowed me on Instagram. She 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.520 didn't tell me about this, and I just figured it 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.520 out three months later. I confronted her about it, and 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.200 she said she doesn't like my boyfriend. She told me 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.320 that she didn't want to see him on my stories 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.040 and my posts. The problem is, this is not a 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.920 new boyfriend. We've been dating for eight years, all throughout college. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.000 I didn't realize she disliked my boyfriend this much, and 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.200 it's not a sentiment I've received from any of my 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.040 other friends. She mentioned once in passing that she didn't 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.160 want to hang around him, and I thought, okay, whatever, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.200 But I just think it's so weird that she unfollowed me. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.040 It also makes me think that her hatred of him 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.080 matters more than our friendship. I don't even hang out 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.040 with them together, so I'm not sure what the problem is. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.720 Do you think it's a sign that she no longer 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.880 wants to be friends and this was her way of 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.360 saying it. I'm not sure I even want to continue 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.920 the friendship if she couldn't have an open conversation with 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.240 me about this before she resorted to unfollowing me and 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.320 not telling me about it. Sincerely, a sad friend. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.359 Oh that hurts your feelings? 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.400 That is sad. I have a very strong opinion about 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.840 this though, Yes, tell us okay, goodbye, thank you so much. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.240 If you're gonna unfollow me after knowing me that with 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.040 instead of picking up the phone and saying, hey, I 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.440