WEBVTT - Chiney Ogwumike: From High School to the WNBA 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.840 Hi, I'm Slum. I'm fifteen years old and I love basketball. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.479 Today on the show, we have Chanay Aguo mackay Toanay 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.719 is a two time WNBA All Star, ESPN analyst and 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:13.280 social justice advocate. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.440 She was also the. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.200 Number one overall pick in the twenty fourteen WNBA draft 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.200 and since has become one of the most recognizable faces 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.799 in women's basketball. We'll find out what she was like 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.360 when she was fifteen and see if she has any 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.840 tips for me as a new and up and coming broadcaster. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.680 Okay Toay, So here's where I want to start off. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.479 Like when I do anything with my brother, and I 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:43.519 mean anything, play Monopoly, play like FIFA, play like football 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.880 in our backyard, Like we can't go a second without 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.440 getting in a fight a second. I don't understand how 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.120 you are on a professional sports team with your sister. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.520 I mean, you guys went to college together, you played 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.840 high school together, and both of you still are able 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:57.440 to shine. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.400 How is that possible? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.960 So it's funny because I think the bigger testament is 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.960 that we've never even gotten into fights from being competitive, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.440 meaning like we learned to play basketball together. It wasn't 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.480 like those I feel like we're the only siblings that 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.720 had the non backyard battle, meaning like, oh, let me 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.320 teach you how to dribble, let me teach you how 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.600 to shoot, so that when we go and play together 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.360 we can kill these fos. This was like a teacher 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.279 student because my sister, Okay, this is a crazy story hunting. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.600 So the first time I ever played basketball, they put 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.160 us in there because my mom heard from a friend that, oh, 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:33.480 why do you have your fworker. She was like, you 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.640 guys are too tall for basketball. I mean, you guys 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.360 are too tall for gymnastics. Put them into basketball. So 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.080 we went to the basketball That first practice was trauma 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.080 because I only like, and this is probably very similar 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.720 to you, I only like doing things that I know 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.280 I'm good at, So like, that's why I don't all 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.720 That's why exactly, that's why I don't play video games 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.760 that much because I don't have the time to perfect it. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.480 So going out there and playing basketball is like I 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.080 don't want to go out there and shoot air balls 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.600 and and like not be great. Yeah, and my sister, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.000 she's a curious one. She's the oldest child and we 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.720 always say she's a guinea pig. So she went out 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.800 there and did it, and so she really taught us 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.120 everything she knew because she started finding a love for 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.440 the game and was like, we do everything together. Yeah, 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.079 So it's always been like about sisterhood, about love. It's 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.040 never been like, oh, I'm trying to cross you up 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.320 and score and say I'm the better player. It's just 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.960 naturally happened where that mindset has taken us to new heights, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.239 like literally riding her coat tails has made all of 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:24.680 us great. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.680 And I guess also because you guys have been on 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.480 the same team so many times, that's different. But like 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.040 I love watching Steph and Seth go at it, but 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.560 they've never been on the same team, so I guess 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.920 it's maybe a little different. Whereas for you, well, we 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.280 were on different teams for a little yea, yes, but 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.240 more a little lot of experience. We've had a lot 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.720 of Yeah, like my whole life high school, AAU college, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.480 which was awesome. The first time we were on different teams, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.560 it was still cool, like it was literally a circus. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.480 The first time we played against each other. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.000 I will never forget twenty fourteen, So this is when 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.400 I graduated from Stanford, I got drafted, and our first matchup. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.120 The league was blowing it out because they're like, to 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.200 our siblings, you made history the only other siblings to 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.120 go number one in major sports, Peyton and Eli. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.560 So they built up this game and it was cool 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:07.680 because Peyton and who's Eli? 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.280 Oh, who's Peyton. I'm totally Eli. But the problem is 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.960 she has a championship, so like she's got like the 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.680 states ship. But I, you know, and like I'm the personality, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.440 you know what I'm saying, So you'll get a ring. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.040 I'm long please Lord. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.760 But yeah, so when we, uh, when we faced off 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.640 for the first time, it was madness, like family members, media, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.760 all this stuff. The game was actually our piece. We're like, oh, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.120 it's just us two together, like, let's just go out there. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.400 That's when things calmed down. We didn't have to think 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.880 about all this circus around it. I'll never forget jump 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.520 all happened. And of course, like I don't even think 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.520 I was supposed to be guarding Mecca that first possession. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.560 But like the least script, the script. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.120 You're doing the jump balls, like, Okay, let's see what. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:51.720 Y'all are doing. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.280 I knew she was gonna get the jump because has 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:54.960 higher bounce to me, I have longer reached. She has 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.920 higher bound both six to no, so I'm taller than Thatka. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.120 A lot of people don't realize that I'm the all 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.240 this of us for siblings, I'm like six three. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.880 Was like, yeah, I'm barefoot six two. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:08.800 Actually, you don't know. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.520 Some crazy I listed myself at six four in college 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.920 just because I wanted to see more into me. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.080 I'm a big platform shoe girl, like I don't wearthot, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.200 so I feel like also is a little bit of 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.719 a different situation than like going from. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:23.640 Exactly. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.479 So that first matchup, we did the jump ball and 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.400 Neka got it, so I knew I was anticipating it, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.919 and we were running back and I looked at her 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.800 and I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.560 we're like playing against each other for the first time. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.120 She did not see me, she did not hear me. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.279 She proceeded to get that first possession, which they knew 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.120 what they were doing. The Sparks had Necka get the 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.359 ball in the mid post. She hit me with the 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.440 jab mid range Swiss. And at that moment, when I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.040 saw that shot go up and I was guarding her. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.040 I was like, I gotta go, Okay, So I got 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.760 I had this sibling fight, but it. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.240 Has been contained to gain and I took a lot 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.920 of ls until actually, like you know, we got a 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.240 couple wins versus the sparks, and then I joined. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.159 And now you just can't beat him, join him, right, exactly, right, Yeah, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.160 I won't. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:04.760 Be doing that with my brother. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.559 I don't foresee that for you, especially well for multiple reasons. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.120 But so as you know, I'm fifteen and I'm ninth grade. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.080 Sometimes fifteen year olds are in tenth grade. I'm just 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.559 setting the senior for you. But I like to start 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.760 off asking about you when you were fifteen, So I 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.400 just want to know, first off. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.680 Who were you, what were your interests everything? 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.839 When I was fifteen years old, I was a nerd. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.680 I did not have all of this like down, I 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.599 did not have this together. Thank you Lord for the 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:36.160 glow ups. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:36.440 Right. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:43.360 I was probably the so freshman or sophomore class president. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:50.640 I was founding the civil rights member my school. Yeah okay, cool, yeah, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:56.359 civil Rights Club, student council, honor society. Heavy nerd okay, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.880 but then also heavy hooper. So it's like hard to 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.080 those two like don't really class exactly, but I was 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.480 like the tallest girl in my class. And this is 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.559 when I just transitioned. So I went from private school 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.880 to public school. Okay, so private school, I was the 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.680 only black girl in my class. Like it was a 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.080 different experience. I wasn't like getting picked to dance and 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.880 the dance. And then I go to public school. I'm like, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.839 it's a whole new world, Like, let's go. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:19.320 This is where the glow up happens. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.800 This is where well, no, the glow up didn't happen 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.800 till like a couple of years ago. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.000 So okay. I mean I feel like. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.919 You kids are built different. You're built different. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.680 You have access to the internet, you have all those 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.440 things we just had our parents saying you look amazing, sweetie, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:34.400 no trauma. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:35.640 Yeah well no, I was saying. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.240 There's this thing on TikTok where you can if you 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.720 press the share button, apparently you'll get a glow up. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.320 It's like this thing where people like basically gaslight you 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.840 into liking their videos. But like I, of course, every 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.880 day I'm like, no you, okay, thank you. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:47.520 I love you. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.120 You look natural, cute, like appropriate age, like you've got 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:51.640 it all together. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:51.960 Thank you. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.120 Some people look way too far at their age. Yes, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.960 but you are You've got it all. You've got it all. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.240 I appreciate the left. So what's your dream college? 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.800 Stanford before your sister had gone, because I know you'd 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.680 turned down you know, Yukon and noted Dame but from Texas, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.440 Like that's sort of a long way to go to 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.960 be like I'm going to go to Stanford, you know. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.920 So I turned down Yukon because I and it was 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.400 a crazy official recruiting visit. So all these girls went 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.760 on this one big Yukon visit. They all came with 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.600 their parents and at that time, Yukon was the destination 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.480 for all top players, Like it doesn't matter how many 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.080 they had. Everyone said yes to coach Gino. I will 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.960 never forget I was a last recruit going into his office. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.800 All the other women that went in there like came 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.600 out crying and happy, like I'm coming to Yukon. You 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.000 know what that means. I'm going to be a national champion, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.040 I'm gonna get drafted. And I was the only one 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.160 without my parents on that trip. And so I went 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.720 in there and I saw coach Gino and he had 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.560 by myself and all those trophies behind him, and all 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.360 he said when I came in was are you coming dang? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.480 Like scene set like bam. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.920 And I never can make a decision without my parents 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.760 without telling them, like, hey, this is how I'm just 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.600 that type of person. I just wanted my family involved, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.040 and so I had to, you know, maneuver my way 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.880 out of there and just say like I really like 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.440 I saw him eye to eye. I loved this competitive fire. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.760 He understood the aspect of me. But I was like, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.320 I don't think you know this is going to work out. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.400 I didn't tell him then, but I was like, I 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.600 need to go talk to my family. So no, yukon. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.240 I knew I wasn't going to Notre Dame. Right when 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.400 I landed. I landed in South Bend, a whole bunch 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.960 of snow Texas girl, yes African girl. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.440 I was like, hold up, what is this where am I? 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.400 I love the school, I love the university, but I 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.720 just was like, this is different. And then Stanford was 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.640 just a dream, you know, he was a dream come true. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.040 So I never thought like I didn't really have this 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.319 idea of dream schools. I just thought that Stanford was 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.720 a fit for everything I wanted academically, and athletically, and 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.640 the only other school that I really wanted to go 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.760 to was Harvard. For Harvard, they have a different you know, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.760 scholarship setup. Yes, and so it's like okay, financially exactly 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.280 and it's a little bit more complicated. I was like, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.400 you know, what if I can make it easier on 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.679 my parents who could pay, But I'm like, I don't 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.320 want to put my position, you know, my parents in 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:56.840 that position. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.400 I was like, Stanford just it's a bazy and basketball. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.400 Course had the name, but like the name, but like 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.000 you know, coming from like African family that like academics 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.800 is king to say you went to Harvard is like. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.040 At this point, it's ultimate flex. It's just like Stanford now. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.040 Is like top two for sure. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:12.559 That works. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.679 So who were your idols at fifteen? Basketball and non basketball? 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.720 Dang, Flash is like this is blast from the past. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.320 My idols at fifteen? 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:23.480 WHOA? 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.480 I'm trying to think of like what I was watching 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.160 on television. I was like, probably watching I mean we 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.000 had a very lockdown house. I was like, probably still 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.400 watching Disney Channel and all that stuff. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.600 I don't know what y'all Disney Channel, Okay, I love 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.840 Disney I'm employed by Disney, so I guess it all 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:39.600 worked out. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.120 I'm trying to think who are my idols? 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.720 And I mean I always had a distant idol who 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.040 has become my real life mentor at least a lessons wow, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.000 Because when I started playing basketball, I was like, Hey, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.440 this woman embodies everything that I want to be. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.040 Fierce, feminine, entrepreneur. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:10:00.960 Broadcaster, mom, wife, sister, like literally everything she has done. Yeah, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.320 And so I was like she set the template for 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.280 what and also being like a dark skinned black woman 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.520 achieving and she was a model, you know what I mean, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.840 like all those things I never even thought were possible 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.400 once you put on a jersey, and she put on 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.400 a jersey and she did them all. So I think 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.640 seeing her, I didn't even process it back then what 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.520 that meant to me until I met her later, and 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:22.400 I was like, oh my god. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:22.600 What was that? 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.160 Like, what what went through your head? Okay, So meeting her, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.800 I was like, oh, this is unreal. So I met 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.040 her when I was playing at Stanford. She called she 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.000 were playing usc and she is, you know, based in 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.160 LA at the time, and she called my sister and 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.280 I over and was like, you girls are special. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.760 Keep going, which was amazing. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.679 And then ever since then, I stayed in touch and 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.200 my agent is actually her agent, and so we've really 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.760 built a family relationship. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.440 But you know what I love about Lisa Leslie. Forget 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:46.960 the hoops. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.640 She needs her own talk show on relationships and love. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.400 She has literally helped you know when your parents tell 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.960 you something like oh no no, not not cupid, but 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.959 more like eanla, like fix my life, like relationship advice. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.840 It's like that type of stuff, personal growth stuff like 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.520 go to Lisa Leslie, tell you tell her your personal 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.600 life situation and she will give you good ways to 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.000 go through it. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.080 So ever since I've been a rookie in the w BA, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.280 I go to her. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.760 I hang out with her, and I never ever talk 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.719 who and it's like, literally been one of the most 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:19.640 meaningful relations. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.720 But I'm sure that's also amazing because so much of 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.400 your life is talking basketball, so having that moment is 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.600 just you know, I got to I'm saying this as 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.760 we're talking about you, know, right, So now we've heard 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.360 about you when you were fifteen, I feel. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.640 Like we would vibe. I don't know, maybe maybe I 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:37.960 was just like a little cooler than you. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:42.280 Maybe you were you probably were, but we would have 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.199 maybe just a lite. No, look, we would have we 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.600 would have been friends because I was like very much 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.240 most popular athlete. I just was not like I'll put 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.760 together you know what I'm saying. I would have like, yeah, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.800 you would have helped You would have helped me with that. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.719 Okay, we could like go back in time. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:11:59.520 We could shop together. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.760 Yeah, and I could. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.280 Announce for you like wal you yes, you know so 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.760 now I think we should go onto you now because 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.720 like fifteen, good age, but you grow up. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.600 No, So, what was the most memorable play of your career? 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.640 WHOA the most memorable play of my career. That's a 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.440 great question. I let me think. I'm trying to think, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:30.439 so I think probably the most memorable play. I've had 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.080 some really big moments, Like winning a state championship when 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.120 I was in high school was a big moment because 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:37.640 I proved to myself that I can do it on 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.360 my own too, because I did it with my sister 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.079 and then she left and they're like, how good is 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:41.680 her little sister? 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.280 And I was like, we want a state championship. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.920 The second half of my final game at home when 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.559 I was at Stamford was huge. We played UNC that 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.560 got us to the final four. I had a horrible 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.280 first half and then my big sister Meca came and 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.800 found me at Stanford as I was about. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:58.959 To warm up for the second half and was like. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:12:59.840 What are you doing? 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.920 Just played basketball, don't overthink it. Had a great second half. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.079 That was my final game at Maples Pavilion at Stamford 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:06.720 and we got to go to the final four my 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.640 senior year, which was huge. And then I think of 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.520 I hit a game winner verse my sister and the 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.880 Sparks when I was on the Connecticut Sun. I think 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.680 it was an O board or something like that, and 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.920 like I put it off like bank shot. Maybe they 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.040 had won, like a couple seconds left to try to 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.440 heave something, but it didn't work out. And that was 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.760 fire because that was at Staples at the time, LA 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.040 those games are rocking. It was against my sister Candas 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.240 Parker playing against them, and to have that game winner 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.400 earlier in my career, like I was like, okay, and this. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.360 Parker was actually the perfect segue into the next question. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.480 Because so my next question is what is the most 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.960 memorable game you've called? But when I said that, I 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.920 asked this question to candas, I said, what was the 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.080 most memorable called your career, and she goes, oh, I 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.520 called Barack Obama and I was like, no, no, not 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.800 if you can answer both ways. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.520 But I mean, like when you were on air and 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.839 you actually but you know what I'd like to hear about. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.840 I got the Obama tweet after work the election in 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.000 twenty twenty, which to me was like probably one of 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.160 the coolest things, like, hey. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:05.600 Yeah, that was that was up there. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:07.680 Hmm. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.240 I would say the most the game that ooh, I'm 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.839 trying to think I've had, so I don't I called games. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.319 But I say the game I was working. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.680 I'm trying to think of which game I was working. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.880 Honestly, I don't even know specifically because technically I and 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.960 now you know, I provide analysis for a lot of games. Yeah, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.800 my favorite game ever, I don't know if you're too 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.560 young for this. Twenty sixteen obviously, well no, you know this, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.920 But I was gonna say, Christmas twenty sixteen, Kyrie hit 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.520 a game winner, which was great. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.760 Of course, I mean I'm an NBA podcast host, of course, Yes, 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.680 that Christmas Day game or those Christmas Day jerseys fire. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.520 I miss those days and those commercials too, and the. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.960 Long sleeve jerseys. I also loved them, even though wait, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.440 wasn't it Bron that like ripped off? 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.120 Yeah, there's definitely it's definitely hard to plan, but like 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.120 the look it looks. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:55.760 It looks good. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.920 It's very aesthetic for the vibes, bringing back for the vibes. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:58.560 Let them tear it up. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:14:59.760 It's all good. We're gonna be fine. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.800 I would say my favorite game ever is the twenty 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.760 sixteen NBA Finals Games seven Lebron James Warriors. You know, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.840 you have the stop, the block, the shot, all those things, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.920 so that sequence was huge and then getting to break 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:12.960 that down after it was huge. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.000 But like as a Warriors fan there that wasn't huge 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.280 for me. But I get I get where you're coming from. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.480 I'll be that, like most of the moments last ten 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.840 or so years, well they deserve it fine. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.880 I mean or rings in the last ten years, I've 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:25.440 already got. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:25.800 To you can't. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.880 Okay, So what from being a player do you think 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.120 has helped you most with your announcing? Because I feel 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.840 like for me, I play soccer not basketball, and like 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.880 I think I know basketball pretty well, but then there's 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.960 always that thing where It's like I stopped playing basketball 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.160 when I was in fourth grade, you know, and a 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.200 little bit of me is like, I don't feel like 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.800 I can necessarily connect as well on that, but obviously 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:47.240 you can't. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.160 So what has happened. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.560 So the thing that has helped me as an athlete 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.080 to transition to broadcasting is the game mentality. So like 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.200 when the lights go on and you have to go 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.720 out there and perform sort of have a routine and 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.160 you have a mindset and how to approach yourself being 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.040 as successful as possible. It's like I wake up, I, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.480 you know, have my breakfast. I go, I do my treatment, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.200 I go, have a great shoot around, I get my nap. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.960 I mean nothing, I don't eat. I don't know why 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.680 I said breakfast, because I'm like, I'm a hot Like 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.040 this is a very controversial take. I think breakfast is overrated. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:19.000 Oh it's disgusting. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.240 I don't like break not I skip it almost every day. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.960 But I do smoothies because like my trainers like, yes, yes, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.960 strawberry strawberry, gray's orange and it's a really sweet orange one. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.320 What is sunrise? It's not sunrise? 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.880 Well, I'm a coconut cloud girl. I'm interesting. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.840 I know it's like coconut, it doesn't really taste like coconut, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.240 it's more okay, so maybe I'll be open minded because 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.080