1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: not broke, you know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to ship. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: hear from my man, ras Sean McDonald money Making Conversations. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Here we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I'm your 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: different definitions of success for some and suscisable paycheck. Mine 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: is helping people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: their goals and live their very best life. These are 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: my passions and that's what I'm going to do for 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: you on Money Making Conversations. I want you to stop 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above the 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: bigger obstacles that life will present to you. My next guest, 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Terence Wheeler, is a highly respected professional with over twenty 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: years of Experience and community relations and philanthropic activities specializing 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: in community outreach and corporate partnerships. His greatest passion is 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: helping enrich the lives of at rich young people and 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: communities throughout metropolitan Detroit area. Some of it's notable charitable 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: events include Back to School Supply Drive, Phenomon Hygiene Campaign, 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: All Stars give Back, Turkey Drive, just to name a few. 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Mr Wheelers often seen speaking and motivating young people in 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the Detroit area schools with a simple mission to alleviate 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: the non academic barriers to education. Please work with the 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: money making conversation, my man, Terrence Wheeler, thanks for having men. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Hey man, First of all, you know, um, you know, 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: we've been knowing each other years, hadn't seen each other 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: in years. But it's a blessing talk about absolutely man, 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about man. Uh, just a long history. And 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: you're one of the brothers man that inspired me, uh, 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: like I want to do for so many other young 35 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: brothers to not give up. How do you reinvent yourself 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: as a former athlete? When I see you, man, I 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: actually see God moving. I said, well, if he could 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: do it for Rashad, he could do it for me. 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: I just gotta stick with it and trust my purpose 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and continue to walk in that purpose and never be 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: never be apologetic about my gifts by my success. Unusually 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: unwavering and committed. You're doing the best that I could 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: do each and every day, and you do a great 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: job at it, and that within the community. Because let's 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: talk about this. This year has had to spend the 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: most challenging year, I'm sure for all your child of 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: efforts to social arrest the COVID nineteen. So let's talk. 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's move. We'll step back before you respond, why was 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: why is this mission of uplifting the community philanthropic activities 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: important to you and the Detroit community? Well, you know, 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I was a child of poverty. Man. I grew up 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of young brothers. Uh mother on drugs. 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: The father that was absolutely I spent a total of 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: four hours my entire life with my father, and three 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: of those who hours at his funeral. And so I 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: was just blessed to have a good grandfather or some 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: uncles and a hell of a basketball coach that really 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: gave me confidence and saw some ability in me. And 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I said, Lord, if I'm ever in a position, I 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: want to use that position to help other people, other 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: children who think that they can't make it based on 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: one this situation. Because life is not about your conditions. 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: It's your decision making that determines your au desctity. Use 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: some of those things in your community as motivating factors 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: for you can get out of there and come back 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and save somebody else. And so my mother's drug use 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: made me want to become academically a stellar in terms 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: of academics, because I didn't want her to come into 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: the school for any reason of my behavior, of my brains, 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: because she was a drug ad. And I grew up 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: in the dope house man where we uh sold tall 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: ERDs values writtling method on all the way up to heroin. 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: And so I moved with my grandmother at the age 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: of twelve, uh and in thesid to turn around because 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I had more of a stable home environment. Wasn't you 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: know our house is to get ready with my mother 77 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: and things that nature evictions. Uh. Sometimes you you're you're 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: home wing, you're homeless, so you're not thinking about homework, 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking about survival. I wasn't. So I went to 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: my grandmother's house where I saw stability and my grandfather 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: just working hard to provive for his family. My grandmother 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: gave me a lot of tools in terms of social 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: skills and how to deal with people. Uh. And so 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: that's why I'm able to do things I'm doing today, man, 85 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: because my grandmother. Well when I met you, you know, 86 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: that's when you Derrick Coleman, I was with Steve Harvey 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: was up in New York too. Every time we went 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: up there, we connected, you know, eating something great Detroit restaurant. Boy, 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: I tell you, boy, we eat some food up there. 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: Ter lovely come up there and eat at and also 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, go shoe shopping, go shoot shopping. Come on, 92 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: ye man, go see water over at up that place. Man. 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: You know the name, you know the names and h 94 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: that was the fun part of our relationship. But you know, 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: it was always coming up there where there's a broadcast 96 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and always talking about what we can do with the 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: turkey drives up there with you guys man and in 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: the Detroit area with the local radio affiliate. So let's 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: talk about first your back to school supply drive. What 100 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: started that and how can one help when the next 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: year are or do you do it doing the spring 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: or you just do it during the August when they're 103 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: going back to school and normally doing in August, Mashan, 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: because man, I'm asking for so all years. So I 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: got to kind of targeted month where specifric programs are 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: going on. So the back to school rally, it's really 107 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: an opportunity to bring families together before schools start. They 108 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: got free haircuts. Also put not just school supplies in 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the backpack, and put toiletries because Rashan, some kids are 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: living in shelters. Some kids are living on the couch 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: friends or families, So we want to make sure they 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: have adult white, They got the older it, they got 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: body washed, all the things that they need so they 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: can start school. Because no kid wants to come to 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: school not having the tombs they need to be successful. 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: We want to encourage kids to receive that translates of education. 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: And you only do that when you feel well equipped, 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: when you feel well prepared, and so we want kids 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: to be prepared. Want you to look good, get your 120 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: hair covered. Mona feeds you so there's no excuse for 121 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: you not to go to school. So my job is 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: to alleviate these non academic various education and so these 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: programs I started out of pain because young people are 124 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: talking to me. Hey I need this, Mr Ward. I 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: mean that. So your job as an adult is to 126 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: get those things close the gap. Let this kid just 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: focused on school and not have to worry about the 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: adults vacation. I got a program with our energy company, 129 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: so therefore we can get in front of the light field. 130 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: You can get in front of the gas feel before 131 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: those winter months. Get that mother and father on a 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: payment plan on some type of programs for the lights 133 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: and gas are not cut off because the kids are 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: coming to me at eight o'clock in the morning, payment 135 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: through my lights and gas cut off. Now, this kid 136 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: is trying to figure out all day how can he 137 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: help his mom or his daddy. Let's get in front 138 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: of Let's be proactive. Let's help young people achieve their goals. 139 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, so true, because young people should not have 140 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: to worry about electricity. I was laughing at my wife. Uh, 141 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: you know, I live in Atlanta and I live in Houston. 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: And they drove back this weekend too to Houston. My 143 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: daughter drove about seven of the of the twelve hours 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: to drive back, and then my wife, you know, she 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: got up earlier on Sunday morning by ten o'clock and 146 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: my daughter was still in bed, and I said, she said, uh, 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: look at that, she still sleep I said, her baby. 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: First of all, you know, she's a senior in college. 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: She's doing fantastic. She lives in a really good household. 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: She doesn't have to worry about anything. I said. The 151 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: only reason we get up out of bed because worry 152 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: gets outside of bed. You know, thoughts of how to 153 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: pay a bill, how to put food on the table, 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: or rent our children, or your life. That's what gets 155 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: us out of bed. Otherwise we stay in bed too. 156 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: But that's what young people should only have to worry about. This. 157 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: You only worry about academics, worry about dreams, dreaming the 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: impossible and making it come true. And that's why I 159 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. But really finally getting you on the 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: show at the time in my life where I'm I 161 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: feel I'm complete, I feel I'm whole, and I can 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: come back into your life and make make be a benefit, 163 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, being an asset to what you're doing up 164 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: in the chart area. And that's really key. When I 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: hear you say, you know a kid coming to you 166 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: eight o'clock more and talking about my I don't know 167 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: if I can get I got big, I don't know 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: my life's going to be on. That should not be 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: a child's word. A child's words should be you know 170 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: what the baseball score was, What the football score was? 171 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: You know what? What what my grades are going to 172 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: be in school? What I gotta wear that allows in 173 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: the function normal. If they are not allow of the 174 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: function normal at a young age, then become a very 175 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: dysfunction on adult. And that's what you're trying to stop. 176 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: Let me say a quick story, brother, So you know 177 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: right now we're doing they're doing remote learning. Okay, so 178 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: we're asking kids rashan to compete worldwide when they can't 179 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: connect locally. When kids don't have internet, don't have hotspot, 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: don't have Chrome books. Some kids are in transition. I 181 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: had an educator called me last week and say, hey, 182 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: I got a kid that's doing the zoom in the bed. 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Now your first thought will be, this kid is in 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: the bed because he don't want to be seen. No, 185 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: let's kill the in your back. This kid is in 186 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: a bear with Sean because they have no furniture. Bed 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: is the only ferns he has. So what I'm gonna 188 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: do tomorrow or Wendsy is I'm going to complete the 189 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: deal with the furniture place and at least get this 190 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: kid a din at table, and that table gives an 191 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to have family dinner. You can now set up. 192 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Your posture is better and you feel like you know what, 193 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I feel good about it? Why are we having kids 194 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: and conditions? That's in humane? Man. There's a pandemic of 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: poverty with Sean. Before the coronavirus, my people were suffered. 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: My people were making decisions to buy gas through a 197 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: buy food. How do I survive? Now? This pandemic has 198 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: done nothing but exacerbate what poverty is. And see, one 199 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: of the things about poverty it limits access to people 200 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: that can help you. Stop just all about money. People 201 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: are forgotten about. In particular River Rouge Risking, a suburb 202 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: of Detroit, there's more marijuana dispensaries and food. I so 203 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: therefore I have to start a mobile food pastry on Wednesdays. 204 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: But Sean, I have people driving forty five minutes each way. 205 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Some people, because the need is so great, get picking 206 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: up food for themselves and their neighbor. And I'm gonna 207 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: seeing you a picture of a guy that comes every Wednesday. 208 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: He's uh vetteran with prosthetic lad He's on a scooter. 209 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: He's sticking a food for him and his neighbor. Another 210 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: brother comes, he just has a suitcase. I said, we're 211 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: gonna feel his suitcase up. You can walk back to 212 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: your apartment. It's less judge and more help. People are 213 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: hungry and when you're hungry, with you your brain can't 214 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: even function at its full capacity because the blood flowers 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: cut off your blood, your blood, your bluecoases because so 216 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: now your blinding bring his functions at half capacity because 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: you're hungry. And when you're hungry, man, that's a that's 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: a pain sensation. But the food insecurity is a lack 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: of access that could resources, that can economics. So my 220 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: job is to figure out how do we help the 221 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: community as a whole. Now you help mom and daddy, 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: you can help the kids because the key it has 223 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: this stress that they should not have. To your point, 224 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: those kids should be to go to sleep at night, 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: get up in the morning. I'll worry about being touching 226 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: them in the middle of night. By the step father, 227 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: being evicted, being without lights and gas man, you don't 228 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: have lights and gas. And it's a problem right especial 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: winter coming. You know a lot of people realize it 230 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: gets hot in Detroit to it gets it gets hot 231 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: up there. A lot of people just they don't get no, 232 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: they get hot up there, get hot in New York 233 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to troge your cargo. All those numbers, but up there 234 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: and human as you say, And that's you know when 235 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: I when I think about, first of all, Terrence, your 236 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: your passion and your articulation is outstanding man. And uh 237 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: and I'm mad now that this the first time I've 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: heard you on my show. So you guys to be 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: a regular man. You know you might be one of 240 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: my I always tell people, man, I bring people in 241 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: my life there that that motivate me. You know what 242 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'd been going like talk for a minute. 243 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Now shot to your point, Man, I'm at a spaceman 244 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: where I just feel like you get four types of 245 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: people to come in your life. Though the ads attract, 246 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: multiplied divide, I need more addition and multiplication less subtraction 247 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: in the visit because God got me on the flight 248 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: that I prayed on the side I prayed on this 249 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: flight to be able to make an indelible impact to 250 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: be that guy to say, you know what, Mr WILLI 251 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: inspired me not to give up the reason why I 252 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: come to school. He supplied my need. You don't owe 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: me not to give it back to somebody else, because 254 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: so many helped me. I stand on the shoulders a giant. 255 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story, man. I was ten 256 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: years old, traveled to New Orleans and see my grandfather. 257 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I got there on a Wednesday night with shot On 258 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: Thursday night, I went to sleep. This guy was tied 259 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: up and shot twice. I slept through the whole ordeal. 260 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you my life has done in vain. I 261 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: cannot afford to not do good work. My life has 262 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: been spared, man, So I gotta make sure that i'm 263 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: every day. How am I helping people? How am I 264 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: helping people? Because in this life and we go through 265 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: and success sometimes and a black community survivor's remorse, Oh 266 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: you think you all that? No, No, that's what you think. 267 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: I just read a different decision. I want my life 268 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: to be positive. As a former athletes. Two things I 269 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: got from basketball that discipline and accountability. Man, those two 270 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: factors are prevalent in my life. If you disc when 271 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you get up at the stage a certain time every morning, 272 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: and you consistent, you hold yourself accountable. Conceive, brother, real 273 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: growth is holding yourself accountable. True self care is I'm 274 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: allowing myself the grace to make the mistake. I'll get 275 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: back at it again in the mall. Man. So guys 276 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: like you man inspired me so much, man that I'm like, Damn, 277 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: what Sean is? I remember with Sean ninety two point three. 278 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: I remember that situation. I remember you're going dominating the 279 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: sea markets, brother, running that now nastily syndicated shows and 280 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: movies and everything that I said. Ship, And I just 281 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: gotta make sure I'm staying in the game. I stay 282 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: connect to this brother somehow, some way the suits man, listen, Buh, 283 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I was there, man. Now, I just appreciate your humble 284 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: his brother, But you're a bad man. I'm blessed to have. 285 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: Every time I text, you hit me back. So I'm 286 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: blessed to have that connectivity, man. Because there's a thing 287 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: called overflow. Brother, I believe in it, and I'm not 288 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: appreciate in any any shape before. Brother. But Topers thirteen 289 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: and four Residents with Me is the soul of a 290 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: lazy man desires that has nothing but the soul of 291 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: a villigen man shall be may rich. I will never 292 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: be as rich as Bill Gates. So I'm gonna be 293 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: rich and and love and empathy for my people. You know, 294 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: that's absolutely the truth, and that's for driving me. Here's 295 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing that I love listening to you, because 296 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: you have your spirit, you have your point of view, 297 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and you know the thing about is that let's let's 298 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: take everybody on the journey. When we've met used with 299 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Derrick Coleman, NBA Superstar, Okay, Sarra used or everybody know 300 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: the history of him, Detrod Native. And then I was 301 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: with Steve Harvard and we were building their brands, shaping 302 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: their brands. You know, yours only philanthropic side for Derrick Coleman. 303 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Mine was just on the global media side with Steve 304 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: as well as feeling dropping. Okay, fast forward now, and 305 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: I said that the earlier part of the call. You know, 306 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: I have my voice, I know exactly who was Sean McDonald's. 307 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm trying to do. I know 308 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: my relationships and all of them are very good. My 309 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: relationships in the past have been very good. When I 310 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: hear you talk, I hear a clean point of view 311 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: about what you want to do for the people from 312 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: your point of view, and there's nobody stopping you. Because 313 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times when you work with other people, 314 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: you have to go, what do you want to do? 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? And it's not your 316 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: vision that you're shaping. You're shaping their vision. Their vision 317 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: and action may not move at the page that you 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: wanted to move. And I'm hearing an indomitable and the 319 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: dominable pace of of I can get it down now. 320 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I got the relationships. How did they get to this 321 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: point in your life? Terms? Man? I remember Sean and 322 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to play uh AU Championship Tender, 323 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: just the arm strong. My grandmother said something to me. 324 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I didn't realize what she was saying. That that partiplate moment. 325 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: She gave me some money to catch the bus and 326 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: she says, you're gonna do something great with people. And 327 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I love my grandmother so much, I just okay, grandma. Man, 328 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: fast forward something ten or fifteen years ago, I'm speaking 329 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: to kids in the light. Bloob went off. My grandmother 330 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: had prophesies over my life and she said, you're gonna 331 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: do this. All the things she said I was going 332 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,239 Speaker 1: to do, I have done. I grew up in the Dopehouse. 333 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: We had to walk from the Dopehouse. Now walk the 334 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: halls to the White House with Obama. That whole that 335 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: that whole, that whole movement. I don't know how proud 336 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: she would have been to sacrifice. Uh. And so for me, 337 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I just said, man, I know my space because I remember, Man, 338 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: when I first moved back to the stray from Arizona, 339 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: I was calling some of these mentor groups, which I 340 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: was calling a hundred black men. I was calling an 341 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: urban league. I want to just come to be a 342 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: partnerment let me help to this day, whether they never 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: called me back to twenty years later, they never called me. 344 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: But what God did is he forced me to do 345 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: my own thing. He said, you got it. You got 346 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: good relations ships, you up the people you're from there. 347 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: You you know what for these kids. I can build 348 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: relationships with kids with Sean. If you talk to a 349 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: kid five days a week in school, right, that's four weeks. 350 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: That's twenty contacts you've made with that kid over a 351 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: five month period. That's a hundred contacts you and that 352 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: kid got a relationship. Is that simple? Hi? How you 353 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: doing with Sean? Hey man? How was your week here 354 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: with Sean? What's with say? All of a sudden, Rashawn 355 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: knows you're pouring into him. You're asking questions. You're not 356 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: just yelling at Rashan. Pull your pants stuff. I tell 357 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: you this, man, if you raise their dreams and raise 358 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: their aspirations, Rashan will raise his pants because Rashan wants 359 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: to make you proud. Every I've never met a young 360 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: kid to stay mr Will. I want to be a failure. 361 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: They're failing because adults have failed them. I don't want 362 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: to be their adult brother. I don't want to be 363 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: their adult when they can't trust me. I tell you 364 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be here left God 365 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: cause me home. But I tell you, wa be there 366 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: nine o'clock. I'm gonna be there eight thirty because you 367 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: dependent on me. I do not want to disappoint these 368 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: young people. And that's key. That's key. I've learned that, 369 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: especially kids to have known rejection or disappointment all their lives. 370 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: What you cannot do is like make a solo appearance 371 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: and expect them to respect you because they used to that. 372 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: They used to. They used to love ones doing them 373 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: like that. They used to parents doing them like that. 374 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: They used to people just dropping off stuff and go 375 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: and see you later. They they don't that there's nothing 376 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: loyal about that relationship. So they will they will. They 377 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: will battle you, they will fight you, they will fight change, 378 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: they will fight. They won't respect the process. And so 379 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: we talked about the back to school supply drive, which 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: is outstanding every August, and then we have the hygiene campaign. 381 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I have six sisters, so so this is something I'm 382 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: very familiar with from from just just living with six 383 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: sisters and the importance of hygiene. And I talked to 384 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: my daughter about it all the time as well, letting 385 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: them know. And she knows, but you always let them 386 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: know how important it is to be from a working standpoint, 387 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: from a relationship standpoint, from a social standpoint, how polling 388 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: your hygienes are to you talk about the hygiene campaign, man, 389 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: I was I was getting ready, I was preparing for 390 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: my annual turkey drive, and I'm in the school, I'm talking. 391 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: I see a young lady in the corner and she's crying, 392 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: and I go to it, Hey, what's going on? She say, 393 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm miss reel them on my period. I don't have 394 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: any paths of pain lines. So right then I was 395 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: mad at myself when she told me this. I said, 396 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: what you don't have what you need? I was pissed 397 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: because I said, how did I fail not to start 398 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: this program? How do I know how? I'm so in tune, 399 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: But I'm not in tune because I missed this. So 400 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I started talking too. I said, We're gonna get what 401 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: you need. From that day forward, brother, I started a 402 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: female hiding campaign. When we collect feminine products for young ladies, 403 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: put them in the school. So now these young ladies 404 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: can go see Miss Johnson. So go see Miss Tony 405 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: where they need to go see discreetly and education is 406 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: never disrupted. What happens, man, when those young ladies are 407 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: on that cycle and they don't come to school or 408 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: it come to school. I would it come to school 409 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: not knowing when it's gonna happen. So okay, now it happened. 410 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: So now kids are talking about you. Your body's shame. 411 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: Now he's not coming to school now. The leaves the 412 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: chronic absentee of the Michigan is top ten in the 413 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: country on human trafficking. If we lose those kids to 414 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the streets, sometime they never come back. So I want 415 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that we alleviate that barrier to education. 416 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: And it's just something simple. Man. When I'm going to 417 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: the hotel's brother, I just came back from a trip. 418 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: I get all I'll order. I get extra lotion and 419 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: and body wash and put it in my backpack and 420 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: bring it back home. And I know I'm running to 421 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: a kid that's gonna leave this stuff. It's not judgment, 422 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: it's helping these young people, loving them pass their pain, 423 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: loving them pass the mistake. Because these kids have been 424 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: on earth two hundred months. They don't know enough for shine. 425 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't have other wisdom. They're trying 426 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: to survive and they just know that way we walked 427 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: to the school building, that this is a place of 428 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: love and empathy and you've done your job. But kid 429 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: gets the school, brothers, they've done their job. Restles don't 430 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: these adults, because these adults don't do their job. And 431 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: you get out to wait and get somebody in there. 432 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: You wanna love this kid and see this kid across 433 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the finish line. Every kid needs a champions. Every kid 434 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have a champion. Well you are one, Terence Wheeler. 435 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Terence Wheeler out of the Detroit area. 436 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: Have been knowing him a long time. And the thing 437 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: about our relationship, whenever he wanted me to post something 438 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: wherever he wanted me to do something for him, I 439 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: responded back to him. You know, he tells you the truth. Now, 440 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: I don't care. I never was too big not to 441 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: respond back to his nails. And I only have one 442 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: phone number one three. I only got one phone of 443 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: my whole life. And they started selling cell phone. I 444 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: got my cell phone number and they've never changed the 445 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Terrence Okay, and so and and and so so. The 446 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: final program many programs, and we're just talking about three 447 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: of them on this show is the All Star Give 448 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Back Turkey Drive. We all know when you said Turkey 449 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: Drive gotta be in no film because I'm a man 450 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: with Steve Harving. You give out them Turkey Black people 451 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: wanted them, Turkey Bro, the throes and Turkeys. Man. You 452 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: want to make a black person happen, give a Turkey brother? 453 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: Give yes, yes, yes, yes, man? Um. We so when 454 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: I was me my mother back in her days of addiction. UH. 455 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: In the food supply line, Man, I focus hope, and 456 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: I said, one day I'm gonna be able to give 457 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: back turkeys. UH. And so me and Derek Covian we 458 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: started Man with two hundred turkeys twenty two years ago 459 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: and now we're doing five thousand turkeys for all the trimmings. 460 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: For Sean. We talked about we got they get two 461 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: candas about the mac and cheese, solt A dressing, and 462 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Jiffy mix in a twelve fifteen pound bird. But what 463 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: we've done is also revamped it a little bit from No. 464 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I've got health in human services because once again, those 465 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: same people are in line for a turkey, may need 466 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: some assistance with their utility build, may need some assistance 467 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: with their Rennis assistance, and so we have those agencies 468 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: there as well. So now it's the full wrap around 469 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: services provide some reprieve for those families. Man. And so 470 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: it's just one of the best days of my life 471 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: for that happened. It's to see a family come in 472 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: with so much despair and hopeless and we give them 473 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: a good word. Matthew twenty, I have a thirty fives 474 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: hungry and you gave me something real simple. This is, 475 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: by far, I can say it humbly, the best turkey 476 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: drive in the country. Okay, okay, I gave out some turkeys, 477 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: not Terrence. Now you're talking about y'all gave me man. 478 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Come back this up, Mr we Leave, Mr Coleman, Mr 479 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Wen call you about your last name? Okay, d C 480 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Up Okay, because you're about to make me make a donation. Here, brother, 481 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm popping up in my chail the Terence we d C. 482 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: Turkey dog turkey give it away now. Okay, we're gonna 483 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: go back. We're gonna go back. But I'm talking about 484 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: RA five four three to one RA yes, yes, yes, yes, 485 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: and so so because because I tell everybody about it again, 486 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Slow it Down is in the Detroit area. Okay, it's 487 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: called the All Star give Back Turkey Drive. My boy 488 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: Derrick Coleman been doing it for twenty two years. I 489 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: swear to you, d C. He's six nine and a half, 490 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: cool and young brother I ever met in my life. 491 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: That's why I met him. That's why I met Terence 492 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: right there, you know. And they were always about the calls. 493 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: They were always about being entrepreneurs. They were all about 494 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: the community, because I want to tell people you can't 495 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: have a customer, they're they usually having customers. There's future customers, 496 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: future large and future branding, future taxpayers. That's what helps. 497 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: That's what happens. You help people in the community. And 498 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: that's what I don't understand racism. It's racism. Just stop 499 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: then this country being better because guess what the community 500 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: be better. If the community is better, I mean we 501 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: have more better qualified workers. I mean we have better 502 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: qualified taxpayers, we have better qualified cities. And that's where 503 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: racism stops. And that's what you're battling, what you're changing. 504 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: And so they all start Turkey drive get back, Turkey 505 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: drive starts win. It's it's always it's always as soon 506 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: as they before I give back, because every person is 507 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: all start ferments down to the CEO. I'm talking about. Man, 508 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: you've got we whites, we got black, We've got me Mexicans, 509 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: We've got Asians, young and old. In line. We're not 510 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: here to judge anybody. We're here to serve. And that's 511 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: the key of serving people and saying, listen to mars, 512 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a better day you can make you giving 513 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: them some hope, letting them know they can conquer adversity. 514 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: Refused to be average. Average is a bad word. Average 515 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: me and you the top of the bottom. Mediaki is 516 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: a bad word. Let's be great, Let's be phenomenal. I 517 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: believe in you. Those people leave us feeling better about themselves. 518 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: I hate when people go places and they giving away 519 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: something free. They ask you a litany questions and don't 520 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: the way you're from. Man probably has no dip codad. 521 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't care where you work at. I don't care 522 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: where you where you live that man, listen, we have 523 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: enough resources in this country, so feed the poor. We 524 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: just can't satisfy the rich. Yes, now, now let's talk 525 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: about this. First of all, I'm gonna make a thousand 526 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: dollar donation to the All Star Get Back Turkey, right 527 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna make it. That's that's a lot of turkeys right there, 528 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of turkey. I've done the turkey drive. 529 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I know where the thousand dollars do for you. So 530 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: so when we hang up, I'm giving my email address 531 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: so you can send me nine and I'm gonna procept 532 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: that check, get it to you the fine time. You know, 533 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: won't be looking what we call you know what I mean, man, 534 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you don't call Roushan with that money. But with that money, 535 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: that brother is just front of me on on the 536 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: radio shows podcast playing me let me at d C. 537 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you get what you're gonna do to me. 538 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna land in Detroit be looking over my 539 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: shoulder and so and so. Because these campaigns and your passion, 540 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: the energy to Back to School Drive, the hygiene campaign, 541 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: they all Star getting back Turkey Drive, just to change lives. 542 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: It all happens in the city of Detroit and all 543 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and it's not a campaign tied to cover color. It's 544 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: a campaign tied to people who need help. And like 545 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: you said, everybody is an all Star. And that's why 546 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: that title right there, all Stars, not needy people. These 547 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: an all star. These people, like I said earlier, these 548 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: are people who work, These people who have families, These 549 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: are taxpaying people. These are the people who are underserved. 550 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: When it came to the ponent the pandemic, hitting the 551 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: pandemic with just COVID eighteen and the Cares Act didn't 552 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: come through. Now this whole struggle, they really need us. 553 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: That's why I'm making this thousand dollar donation to you 554 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: because right now you know they suspending evictions to the 555 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: thirty first. You know the threaded dollar check that they 556 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: were passing out that end the weeks ago and so 557 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: and now they see sitting around with debating if they're 558 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna renew another cares that campaign. So I'm I'm gonna 559 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: help as much as I can and you do it 560 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: on a daily Brasis. This is your mission in terms, 561 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: I said, I'm proud of you, brother, and again I 562 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: will be bringing you back on the show. And no rumble, okay, 563 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: And that probably probably that that week before the TuS 564 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: that you give away we're gonna we're gonna come back 565 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: on the air and they're gonna come back on the 566 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: air man, And I promise you, brother. But I say 567 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: this is the truth because I just love your tone 568 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: and uh and I just love how you've grown man 569 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: as a spokesperson. Uh, your yourarticular is like on, it's fired. 570 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: They ain't on. It was always on, but now it's fired. 571 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that because you got a legacy. 572 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: See if you can you see back then you're still 573 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: like putting everything together, which was really great. But now man, 574 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: you've got a history walking up to people, people know 575 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: your your resume. I always tell people, when you're hype 576 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: and the things you you've written down meet each other, 577 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: then guess what you're now living the life that you're 578 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: supposed to live. And that's what you're doing right now 579 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: on Tarrens Real Man, thank you so much for something. 580 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: It's uh, nothing but love. Man. When I when I 581 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: when I see the things you're doing, Man, I say, 582 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: every time I'm watching a rerun on BAT or something 583 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: that man comes from the screen, Man just skills my 584 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: heart with joy because you're never You're never like you 585 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: know it was too big or never not had enough 586 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: time to give a word. And I was talking to 587 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: my good friend of my my mom, my middle school 588 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: buddy Monty, you know, so when Tahan was popping off 589 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: in and just that whole mentorship that you gave him. Man, Uh, 590 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: it's just we need older brothers who are not afraid 591 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: to pour into us because you know, that's how that's 592 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: how legacy start, that's how generational wealth start, that's how 593 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: we keep this chain going. When we have a person 594 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: of wisdom to give it to a young person, I'll 595 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: give it to somebody else. You got a rope, I 596 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: got a ladder. Let's go, man, let's help people. Uh. 597 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: And So Man, I'm just I'm just honored man to 598 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: be sitting here, man talking to you, brother, because I 599 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: know you know a lot of people, a lot of 600 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: people could be on this show and I'm just a 601 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: small vessel honor and humble to be here. Brother, my brother, 602 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: you know you're always up every time you everything. You're 603 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: up for a campaign, you know I'll be voting. I'll 604 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: be voting for you like you see me a linkol. 605 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: Don't why, brother, I don't gonna vote for t W. 606 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. And by the way, is 607 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: sending me one of these I saw he was on LinkedIn. 608 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: He had we had his coat and I saw a 609 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: coach and I text us to tell you, I need 610 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: that blue coat right there. So this week, next week, 611 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting the code from Talon because I've been I've 612 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: been mentoring here. Man. He got back into my life 613 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: in February. Man, February, I flew down to flew to 614 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and I on me. He said, Man, you 615 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: really came. But I said, but you asked me to come, yes, 616 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: And I guess I guess the things I do, Man, 617 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: I just do him, man, And you know, he asked 618 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: me to come. You know, wouldn't know no airline how 619 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: much you're gonna cause I showed us and all day 620 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: with gave him some advice and I just left. He said, wow, 621 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: that's yeah, you asked that that advice. That that that 622 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: you have, man, because you have been, you know, on 623 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: so many circles. You've seen so much, you know, and 624 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: so now those mistakes we don't have to make it 625 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: because okay with Seawan can give us a point on Hey, man, 626 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: go this way now you I'll tell you where to go. 627 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: You're a show choice. But you have that wisdom, that 628 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: knowledge that you're passing the young brothers, and so we're 629 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna receive it. Uh. And trying to multiply to somebody 630 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: else's like man, uh yeah monkey God like ge Man 631 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: telling you when you hang up this car, saythe rishaw 632 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: said you are sitting blue coach to him. He goes 633 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: say yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He told me I'm 634 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna give it to you the calls. That's whatever, brother. 635 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: But what I don't do, I don't take free. I 636 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: don't take free. I think I put that drop that 637 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: check in the mails it's coming your way. But that's 638 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the beauty of you know why I try to live 639 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: my life Terrence. And like I said, man, you know, 640 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: don't hang up the phone about to wrap up the interview. 641 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: Don't hang up because I want to get you. Give 642 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: my email address because I'm gonna send you a thousand 643 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: dollars for the All Star give Back Turkey Drive and 644 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you on and interview the week before that, 645 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: so you're gonna get update us on everything so we 646 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: can make sure and just do a recap of what 647 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: you have planning. And and I'm in your life now, brother, Okay, 648 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Well, I always been in your life, but 649 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm really in your life. I don't know if that's 650 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: good at back. Now you're hearing that means that this 651 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: thing about that about the elevator got means elevation from 652 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: my from my form basketball player to a guy who 653 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: came dunk. Elevation is a good conversation because that's something 654 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't not do. Your your elevator in terms of 655 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: your knowledge, man, your wisdom resources. Man. Uh, I just 656 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: know that it's now a perfect time to be on 657 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: that flight with you. Man, I'm about to do us. 658 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: I got a special coming on on Kelly Clarkson's show. Brother. 659 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: I told her she's gonna highlight some of the things 660 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: we've done in the community. That's my girl. That's my girl, 661 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: the whole Alex Doodle executive producer, that's my that's my 662 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: best friend. Okay, I'm gonna tell you this thing. Circle. 663 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: At the last last November, I surprised the whole Kelly 664 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Clarkson's staff, including Kelly Clarkson, with a homemade breakfast spread. 665 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: You know. Just she was stunned. She she couldn't believe. 666 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, so that whole crew man know me, that 667 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: whole crew up there. So so what you're doing, man, 668 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: whoever the producer is, just let him know you you're 669 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: showing board. They already take care of you. Man. But again, 670 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: these are the things how everything comes back and it 671 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: connects because but somehow I do know a lot of people, Terence, 672 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people do alright. There more Moneymaking 673 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: Conversations interviews, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 674 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I Wishean McDonald. I'm your host.