1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 3: It's the Herd wherever you may be. 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: However you may be listening Colin right, Colin wrong, one 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: hour from now. Thanks for making us part of your day. 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Jmax joining. I gotta tell you I saw a headline 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: in the Athletic this morning. I just smiled and laughed. 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: The headline in the Athletic. Three seasons ago, college basketball 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: had no juice, no household names, and now it's better 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: than ever and we have the nil to think here 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: here It's what I im preaching college sports. It's different now. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: I think it's better. You may argue it's not, but 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: what it really is, it's different. And I'm watching this 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: tournament there's like seven freshmen that are it's college basketball 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: now is such a global sport because the nil money 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: you can go buy twenty kids, thirty kids from Europe 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: because our economy is so much bigger than Europe. 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: So we're this sport. 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Rick Patino told us a month ago there's 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: no valor in complaining, adapt or die. And there's three 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: big winners in the nil transfer portal era. 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Number one is the Big Ten. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money at the Michigans and Michigan States, 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: and those are big schools with rich graduates. There are 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: six of the final sixteen teams, six of sixteen, or 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Big ten. They've got three straight football national championships and 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: six quarterbacks next year that may go in the first round. 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: Big ten is rolling. 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: The second big winner is the older coaches, Rick Barnes, 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Calvin Sampson, Patino, you know Tom Izzo. Why because it 38 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: used to be college basketball you had to pound the pavement. 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: You're going to six AAU tournaments over the course a 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: day and a half. You're going to high school. Now 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: it's administrative. Now you write a check. So Patino and Izzo, 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: you can be in your late sixties or seventies. A 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: lot of great older coaches and elder statesmen, they're big 44 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: winners here too. It's why Belichick would never have worked 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: in college football ten years ago. I'm not sure he's 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: going to, but he has a chance to work now 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: in college sports. And the third winner the players I 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: never bought into the G League. Name one NBA star 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: that comes from the G League. College basketball has got 50 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: better facility, better exposure, you know, better coaching, better travel, 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: better development. 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm watching Michigan. 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Their front line looks like an NBA front line. So 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I've been preaching this now for several months and years. 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Is that when ratings are through the roof, this is 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: the most watched college basketball season in a decade. When 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: the ratings are up and the revenue is up. My 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: eyes don't lie. You can't tell me the sport's broken. 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: It is different now. You know, players are less loyal, 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: not less passionate. They still love the Spartans, they still 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: love the Wolverines, they still love Alabama Tennessee. But they're 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: a little less loyal. And that's not a terrible thing. 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: If coaches can skip town, soa can players. Players are 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: going to go where they have the best opportunities. And 65 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: you know everybody told me about the NIL, Well they're rich. 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: You'll get richer I just watch Iowa. This one shocked me. 67 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Beat Florida last yesterday. Iowa was middle of the pack 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. They beat the defending champions. And 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but the Indiana Hoosiers, 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: a basketball school, just won the football national championship. 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: So I want to hear about the rich get richer. 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Indiana could have never won a national championship in football. 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: With the old way, paying kids through the churches, paying 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: kids at the car lot, putting money in the glove compartment, 75 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Indiana couldn't compete. 76 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: They can now. 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: They just won a Natty and I'm watching you know 78 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: it is Iowa a big money school. I mean there's 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: some rich farmers, but I'm watching Iowa last night. They're 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: beating Florida. And that was to me. Forget high point 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: high points, well coached, they got good high points. 82 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: Good Iowa beat Florida. Wow. 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: So you know, you got to be careful with all 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: the social media platforms listening to the very loud fringes. 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: The ratings fought. 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: His ratings for college basketball are up thirty eight percent 87 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: this year. 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: The quality of play. 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: Is this is going to be the best draft, the 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: best NBA draft, I don't even I don't even remember 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the one where you have twelve guys at the top 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: that can all play immediately in the NBA. 93 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: Kid from Arkansas Darius Acuff. 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Wow, it's like if Russell Westbrook was a great shooter too. 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: You get all this athleticism. He didn't want to play 96 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: a lick of defense. But I'm telling the kid is 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: so special offensively. So Rick Pattino say, is that guy 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: a great coach? They beat Kansas? His team can't shoot 99 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: and they beat Kansas. He talked about this couple of 100 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago, about all the changes in college sports. 101 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: I think I can adjust to just about anything, because 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: you have to adjust today. You see it all the time. 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: All the sports change. The coaches that don't want to 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: change get out, and I wasn't ready to get up. 105 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, now let's shift to the NBA. So before I 106 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: left on vak Lebron was a distraction. Luca couldn't stop 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: complaining to the refs and even Laker fans were ripping him. 108 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Lakers were a bad defensive team and they couldn't beat 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: any good teams. They just beat up on the Sacramentos. 110 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I go on a week vacation I come back. They're 111 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: in a nine game. Heater lucas the MVP, Lebron's now 112 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: playing the best defense in probably half a decade for 113 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: him in setting screens, and JJ Reddick may get votes 114 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: for Coach of the Year. Laker fans have called Fox 115 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Sports and asked that I go back on vacation. I 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm watching. They're on a nine 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: game here. First of all, Lebron listens to his critics. 118 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: He always has, and I don't think it's a bad quality. 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: But Lebron is playing screen, setting, moving off ball, in 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: intensity leadership. I mean we said Lebron's individually great, I'm 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: not sure he's a third wheel on any team. Lebron's 122 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: been sensational the last nine ten games. He's kind of 123 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Lebron's moved into his Harrison Ford role, which he's more 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: supporting actor than leading man. 125 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: But he's still good on the screen. 126 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Number two is Luca has stopped barking as much as 127 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: officials and now is taunting and mocking fans and opposing players. 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: I like that Luca. 129 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: The other thing is JJ Reddick deserves a ton of credit. 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: He's an offensive guy. He can be a little snarky 131 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: at times. I like that, but I'm in the media. 132 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: I like the funny soundbites. I think JJ's done a 133 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: very good job. I think is in the NBA is 134 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: a tightrope. When you deal with stars in the NBA, 135 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: you gotta pander a little, you gotta kiss some butt. 136 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean Steve Kerr. Steve is always supporting his players, 137 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr is a very opinionated guy. There is 138 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: a tight rope you have to play as an NBA 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: head coach. NFL coaches have all the power. NBA coaches don't. 140 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: The players do. So JJ's messaging early in his career 141 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: was a little harsh and a little critical, and it's 142 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: not his messaging. He has softened it. It's hard to 143 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: get because the Lakers are not a great defensive team, 144 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: but they're playing very good defensive basketball. So to get 145 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: superstars in the NBA like a Lebron and a Luca 146 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: to collaboratively play about as well defensively as they can 147 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: at this spot in their career is a real effort 148 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: by JJ Reddick. 149 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: He softened his messaging. He's got everybody buying in. 150 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: They're all golfing on days off, They're buying in its 151 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: its collaboration. Now again, it is a regular season NBA 152 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: winning streak. You know how the NBA playoffs go. It's 153 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: the only professional league in America. It's officiated differently in 154 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: the postseason. Okay, the whistles, you don't get them. Austin 155 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Reeves won't get to the free throw on line. And 156 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you play the same team six seven times, so they 157 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: hunt you down if you're a weak defender, and the Lakers. 158 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: Have several of them. So it is a regular season 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: win streak. 160 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you JJ Reddick, they're taking better shots. 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Lebron's moving off ball, diving for balls, playing real defense. 162 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, who's always been a little up and down 163 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and inconsistent and mercurial and moody, he's playing. He seems 164 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to be. You know, there's a connective tissue with DeAndre Ayton. 165 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Portland couldn't do it, Phoenix couldn't do it, And maybe 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't last forever. But all in all, I mean, 167 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: what are the I mean you look around, You're like, 168 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: is it is more of an offensive league today than 169 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: seven years ago? Like the NFL, they've moved into offense. 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: The rules favor the offense, and right now they're the 171 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: second third best offensive team in the league. This nine 172 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: game winning streak, Luke could be MVP. Reddick could be 173 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: coach of the Year. Lebron's plan. I mean for him 174 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: to play defense like this, off ball screening. 175 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he's doing it all and here is here 176 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: is a little snark stur jj Reddick recently. 177 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: It's not just the fact that he responds to a 178 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: rough play or trash talking. It's that he can channel it, 179 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: and he can channel it while still doing all the 180 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 5: other things that needs to be done. He's playing as 181 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: well as anybody in the NBA right now. 182 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 6: And. 183 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: I think that's you know, it's probably not being talked 184 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 5: about enough, but I'm going to talk about it. 185 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: He's talking about Luca there, so listen. If you want 186 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: me to go back to the Caribbean, I will. I mean, 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's it is March, but college basketball. I 188 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: sat and watched it all weekend. I thought it was 189 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: fan Now you like Arizona, I think to win it all. 190 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: I had Michigan beating Florida. I was shocked. 191 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: And it's not a knock on. 192 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Florida is a kind of a flawed team 193 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: in the back court, maybe a little bit, but I 194 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: tell you that was a The Big ten is on fire. 195 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Ucla in the first half until the very 196 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: end of the first half led you con I thought. 197 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 3: Are they gonna get? 198 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: Are they gonna get forty five percent of the Sweet sixteen? 199 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I just thought, I think 200 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: the tournament so far has been so much fun. 201 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent tournament, Colin, though that Lakers ran, I don't 202 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 7: know that I'm mentally prepared for a World Cup that 203 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 7: starts in Los Angeles and the Lakers in the finals 204 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 7: in June. Like, I don't know how'm gonna handle this. 205 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: No kids get out of school. 206 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 8: It's gonna be chaos out here in Los Angeles. 207 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 7: Maybe you'll maybe you'll come back over here and hang 208 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 7: out and keep that nice tan going. I don't think 209 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 7: the Chicago Sun's going to help. 210 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 8: You for the next four months. 211 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Well it it is basketball season, so. 212 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 213 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: and noonon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 214 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app Hi. 215 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 6: This is Jay. 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 9: I'm the producer of the Pauli and Toni Fusco Show. 217 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 9: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 218 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 9: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 219 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 9: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 9: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 221 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 9: the show so it can get camps. 222 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 10: Who wha what what the hell are you doing in 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 10: our studio? 224 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: Get him? 225 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 8: PAULI ignore that fool. Listen to the Paula and Tony 226 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 8: Fusco Show on. 227 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 10: The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 228 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 229 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 9: Here. 230 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: It go to Monday. It's our number two. I guess 231 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be shocked. 232 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Eight of the last nine NCAA basketball champs have lost 233 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: in the round of thirty two or earlier in the 234 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: following tournament. The exception is that the Yukon team, that 235 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: great Yukon team several years ago. 236 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: But it caught me off guard. I filled out my bracket. 237 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: I had a couple of red stripes before I filled 238 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: it out, so it was a little choppy. 239 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: And you go to the Caribbean, you got those little crudo, 240 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: a few red stripes. 241 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of vitamin D. I told j 242 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Mack I overdosed on vacation. The good news it was 243 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: vitamin D. 244 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: But you know, J Mac, I. 245 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Will tell you when you go on vacation, it puts 246 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: things in perspective. 247 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 8: How's that? 248 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: And I've come to the. 249 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: Conclusion that I like sports because I'm sitting there and 250 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: it's eighty three degrees and I'm like, give me a 251 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: red stripe. I got to turn the tournament on Friday, 252 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and it's great. 253 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: I just it is a lot of fun. 254 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: All right. 255 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: We call it Colin right, Colin wrong. We do it 256 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: every Monday, and here we go. 257 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: Where Colin was right, Well. 258 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: I said, the NIL is going to favor the Big ten, 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: major universities, rich alumni, massive endowments. Six of the sixteen 260 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: teams left in this tournament a Big ten. They have 261 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: been thirteen and three in the tournament. Iowa, a middle 262 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: of the pack team, knocked off heavyweight SEC heavyweight Florida. 263 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: So the NIL is kind of what we thought it 264 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,239 Speaker 1: would do to the Big ten, which has the wealthiest, 265 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: well healed boosters out there, and they're spending money on 266 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: their sports teams. 267 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 6: Where Colin was wrong, Well, the. 268 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Lakers are on a nine game winning streak, Lebron's completely 269 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: energized on the defensive end. I never thought this team 270 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: could even be remotely elite defensively, and at least during 271 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: this winning streak their top five top six. So it's 272 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: hard to get stars, older stars to play great defense 273 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: on a nightly basis. But Lebron is going above and 274 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: beyond what is necessary. Lucas playing like an MVP, and 275 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I'll take an L. 276 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: On this one. 277 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, I said the NIL would be 278 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: great for older coaches. Rick Pattino still alive, Tom Izzo, 279 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Rick Barnes, Kelvin Sampson, Why, John cal Why Because college 280 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: sports recruiting now is much more administrative and less hustle. 281 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Rick Pattino acknowledges he no longer recruits high school kids. 282 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: He not going to AAU tournament. He's got no interest. 283 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: He'll buy the best players. And I think that's great 284 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: for the players because now you get all the wisdom 285 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: from the Izzo's and the Kelvin Sampsons and the Caliparis. 286 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's always been a better coach sport than 287 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: the G League, but now more so than ever. 288 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 6: Where Colin was wrong. 289 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Okay, in my blotchy bracket. I had Florida played Michigan 290 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: for the national title, and this to me was the 291 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: biggest upset in the tournament. You know, Iowa at one 292 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: point led early and I'm like, yeah, this is They're 293 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna last. And Iowa was kind of a middling Big 294 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: ten team, but they had just enough size to match up. 295 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: They got themselves a fiery coach and and my finals 296 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Gators Finals team out where Colin was right, I said 297 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: about the World Baseball Classic, I said, I know. I 298 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: kissed up to my bosses. I said, I think it's 299 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the smartest thing we have bought at Fox Sports. And 300 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: I said this when I worked at the other place. 301 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic is massively undervalued as a property. I 302 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: get patriotism, I get passioned, I get big stars. Listen, 303 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Venezuela winning is awesome. I mean you can they just 304 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: came through the screen, how much they cared. You got 305 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: total buy in from Aaron Judge and O Tawny and 306 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper. This is one of those properties in sports. 307 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little bit like under the Little League 308 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: World Series or something that we know, you don't talk 309 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: about it a lot as a property. I thought This 310 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: was absolutely fantastic. You could just see the passion and 311 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the intensity coming through the television set. 312 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 6: Where Colin was wrong. 313 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't get the Ravens having an eleven and a 314 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: half over under win total that's best in the league. 315 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: They got a new, unproven coach. I think he's good, 316 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: a new OC. 317 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: They lost the best center in football, maybe Tyler Linterbaum. 318 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: You got the Max Crosby mess, you got the Lamar 319 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: Jackson contract. I mean, you know, if Aaron Rodgers sticks around, 320 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's pretty good. Joe Burrow is off in the best 321 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: quarterback Sunday in the league. I mean, you're gonna beat 322 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: the Browns probably twice. But I think Baltimore to me 323 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: is an underback. And that's nothing against Jesse Minter. But 324 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know half these coordinators don't work as head coaches. 325 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I'll take an L on that one. 326 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 6: Where Colin was right. 327 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota has not only signed Carson Wentz, but Kyler, Murray, 328 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel quarterback turn analyst said the second Kyler signed 329 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: with Kevin O'Connell, JJ McCarthy's done. 330 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: I always said about J. J. 331 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy, he's got talent. Seems like a good kid. He 332 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have a wow trait. And as much as I 333 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: love Jim Harball, when I asked him about him, he said, well, he's. 334 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: A winner, winners, not a trade winners. 335 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: What happens when you play at Ohio State, Alabama and 336 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: a Jim Harball college team. 337 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: Winning's not a trait. 338 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: Personality, arm, mobility, toughness, those are traits. So I'll take it. 339 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: I'll take an R on that one. Colin Wright, Colin 340 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: wrong on a Monday. 341 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern, not a em Pacific. 343 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: With that Chris Brusard cover in the NBA since nineteen 344 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: ninety five. Oh, I want to ask you before we 345 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: get to the NBA, I gotta ask I gotta ask 346 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: you about Darren Peterson. I said this, there's like a 347 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: ten percent Ben Simmons vibe Like, I'm like. 348 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: Does he love it? 349 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: And also he's got durability issues and Cooper Flagg said 350 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: this year he goes Man. 351 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: The difference to. 352 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: College in the NBA, you play a lot of basketball, 353 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: the games are longer, there's three times as many. You 354 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: also have to play defense in the NBA. In college, 355 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: you can get away with it, you know, not playing 356 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: great defense. Are there any do you hear any reservations 357 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: about Peterson Kansas going number one? Because he's a sensational talent, 358 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: but you know durability. He also, Chris, he kind of 359 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: plays in a silo, no assists. He averaged like less 360 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: than two a game, so like he needs the ball 361 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: when he's on the floor. Doesn't necessarily elevate others any 362 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: negatives you're hearing, Well, most. 363 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 11: People like him a lot, and he's going to obviously 364 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 11: go high in the draft. But yeah, some of the 365 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 11: things you mentioned, Like personally, I like de Banza out 366 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 11: of by you better, I would take him number one. 367 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 11: I think Peterson's obviously got a bright future. But the 368 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 11: red flags are Glad Colin, like just missing so many 369 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 11: games for bizarre or hidden reasons. Right, all of that 370 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 11: and that, I mean, you bring up Ben Simmons. I 371 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 11: have not heard that comp though. 372 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: That's my opinion, just just a passion thing. 373 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 11: No, it scares you, I mean because Ben Simmons had 374 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 11: all the talent in the world, and you know, obviously 375 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 11: we know how that worked out. I don't I hesitate 376 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 11: to put him in that bucket. But there's a lot 377 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 11: of red flags there for sure. Look, I don't hold 378 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 11: the game this weekend against him so much. A lot 379 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 11: of people are looking at he was in efficient five 380 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 11: for fifteen. 381 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 10: I believe didn't kind of take over the game. 382 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: Oh he didn't. 383 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 11: You talk about that passion, that killer instinct. 384 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 10: Didn't really show you that. 385 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 11: So those are things, but I hesitate to overreact to 386 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 11: one tournament. 387 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: Game, right. 388 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 11: But he'll be a top five pick without question, and 389 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 11: he should. But there are some other guys that I 390 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 11: don't have the same reservations about, so I would. There's 391 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 11: a lot of as great as he is as far 392 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 11: as talent. 393 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think he's going to Ben Simmons. 394 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying ten percent. There's just something there where I'm 395 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: a little uneasy with his durability. And I mean, listen, man, 396 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: in the NBA, you got to play hurt. I mean, 397 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: it's it's just you're you know, you're just playing so 398 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: many games. It's so taxing on your body. Okay, let's 399 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: get to the NBA. I said, it's it's I always 400 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: knew the Lakers were gifted offensively, they're actually playing better defensively. 401 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: Lebron's a big part of that. But you know what's funny, 402 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Rich Paul reached out to me a couple of weeks ago. 403 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: He was mad at me, and because I was saying, like, 404 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure with Luca and Austin's inability to really 405 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: play elite defense and Lebron at his age can't compensate, 406 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's a good fit. I think Lebron 407 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: hears everything I think. Right now, he is just trying 408 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: to He's trying to prove all of us TV critics wrong. 409 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Do you think this team because the playoffs are different, 410 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: you don't get the whistle, same team seven nights. They 411 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: can hunt you bet your worst defensive players. Does this 412 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: Laker team are they built for the playoffs? We know 413 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: they're built for the regular season great offensively, That doesn't 414 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: necessarily translate. 415 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: The postseason wins. Do you think they translate? 416 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 6: Well? 417 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 11: First of all, to your point about Lebron not being 418 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 11: a fit, he wasn't early, you know, earlier. 419 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 10: In the season. 420 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 11: He wasn't until he came back a couple of weeks 421 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 11: ago and decided out. To his credit, he watched you know, 422 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 11: this win streak started with him on the bench injured, 423 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 11: and he watched them and figured out what is the 424 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 11: best way for me to help this team win, and 425 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 11: that's by being kind of this high octane role player. Right, 426 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 11: He's doing so many things he hasn't done throughout his career. 427 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 11: He's sitting in the corner for the corner three, He's 428 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 11: running the floor incredibly, he's in the dunkers spot like 429 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 11: he is being a tremendous role player that on nights 430 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 11: when Austin Reeves doesn't have it, for instance, he'll go 431 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 11: for thirty like the other night. So Lebron has really 432 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 11: changed his game to fit with Luca and Austin Reeves. 433 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: So that's great. 434 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 11: As far as the playoffs, I think the Lakers, Colin, 435 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 11: are the third best team in the West behind OKC 436 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 11: and San Antonio. They're one and five against those two 437 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 11: teams this season. But look first round, if they get 438 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 11: Houston will not beat them. I think Houston's done. The 439 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 11: Lakers would beat Houston, no question. Minnesota and Denver if 440 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 11: they get one of them, That'll be tough Denver. I 441 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 11: would see that kind of as a seven game series. 442 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 10: I could see either team winning that. 443 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: The inch. 444 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 11: What would be interesting, Colin if the Lakers get to 445 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 11: the second round and face the Spurs. Now, I think 446 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 11: the Spurs are a better team, but they're inexperience. 447 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 10: Everybody has that question. 448 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 11: That's the one question about the Spurs, especially since they've 449 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 11: been shooting the three well the last few months. Is 450 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 11: their inexperience in the playoffs? How is Wimby, Stefan Castle, 451 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 11: Dylan Harper, all these guys gonna react to the playoffs, 452 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 11: and then they would be facing the most experienced playoff 453 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 11: guy you could face in Lebron Luke obviously has a 454 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 11: lot of experience. DeAndre Ayton played in the finals, like 455 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 11: Marcus Smartest gone deep, so that would be a real 456 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 11: test case for the power of experience. So I would 457 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 11: I think right now I'd pick the Spurs, but that 458 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 11: would be in the back of my mind, Like, you know, 459 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 11: if the Spurs don't react properly to the playoffs the 460 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 11: tough seven game series, could the Lakers with their experience. 461 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 11: JJ Reddick also has more experience than miss Johnson Mitch Johnson, 462 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 11: who being his first playoffs, So that that's what intrigues 463 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 11: me about that round. 464 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 10: But I think the Spurs are better and I likely 465 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 10: would pick. 466 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: Them, you know, It's interesting. 467 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you make a big deal, so 468 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Yannis is out there, and what's gonna happen to the 469 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Knick's got a break When you know Cad Cunningham is 470 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: going to be out, that's a break because the Pistons 471 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: had hammered the Knicks and without Cad they just can't 472 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: score the ball. So then Tatum comes back and that's 473 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily good, although they played bad the other night, 474 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: but the Celtics are back, and so I don't think that. 475 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't think the Knicks are winning the title. But 476 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: if they got to the finals, you can make an 477 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: argument they don't have to make a Yannis move, But 478 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: if they got bounced by an Orlando, or they got 479 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: bounced by a Cleveland or a Boston. My argument is 480 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: this Brew Brunson is a smaller player who has the 481 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: ball a lot. He's going to age quickly and Cat 482 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: we all kind of know the game on cat defensive liability. 483 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: Yannas sounds like it'd be a perfect fit, but now 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: he's having lower body injuries. They're adding up. So I 485 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: think the Knicks are fascinating. If they get to the finals. 486 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: You keep og, you keep hard, you keep you run 487 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: it back. If you don't, I think there's gonna be 488 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot of heat to make a Yannis move. And 489 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: let me ask you, as somebody who lives in New York, 490 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to give up four 491 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: firsts for Yannis and Og and a Josh Hart or 492 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a salary? 493 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 3: What they honest mix thing? Howere are you on that? 494 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 11: Well one, I think the Knicks would have trouble making 495 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 11: a deal that was fair for Milwauker. Like the Knicks, 496 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 11: you know, remember they gave up so many draft picks 497 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 11: for Mikhale Bridges, so they don't have a ton of 498 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 11: picks to trade to Milwaukee for Yannis. So what the 499 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 11: Knicks would have to do to get Yannis is unless 500 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 11: the Bucks want to do them a favor, which I 501 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 11: wouldn't if I'm the Bucks, they would have to go 502 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 11: out and get a third or fourth team. I think 503 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 11: to make this happen somewhat similar to a Golden State, 504 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 11: which will go after him as well. 505 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 10: I think, Colin, yeah, sure. 506 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 11: If I'm the Knicks and I don't get to the finals, 507 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 11: I'm trying my darnedest. 508 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 10: To get Yannis. 509 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 11: I just think it's gonna be tough with a third 510 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 11: or fourth team having to be involved. Colin the team 511 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 11: I think made a mistake and I think should go 512 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 11: wholeheartedly after Yannis this summer is Houston. 513 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 10: Houston should have gone. 514 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 11: They should have offered Shing Gooon and whether it's Reed 515 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 11: Shepherd or some other young. 516 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: Players, I agreed with. Yes, I agree with you. 517 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 10: That's the mistake. So they gotta do that this summer 518 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 10: because it's good. 519 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 11: I love Shogoon, but I don't think he's good enough 520 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 11: or will be good enough ever to like lead a 521 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 11: team to the championship. Fair, you got Durant, so your win. 522 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 11: Now go get Giannis this summer and pair him with Durant, 523 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 11: And I mean that'd be a great team try to 524 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 11: win a championship. So I think Minnesota also should make 525 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 11: a charge, although I don't know that they'd have the pieces. 526 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 527 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: See this is my take on this as well. Like 528 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: I know Houston does not want to give up Amen Thompson. 529 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Like I know that he is defense and energy and athleticism. 530 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 10: You might be able to keep him. I agree with that. 531 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 10: I think they maybe could keep him in that deal. 532 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 10: But you know, we'd have to see. 533 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: So I want to talk kat. So he just surpassed MJ. 534 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: We put up the board the graphic earlier, and I 535 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: said k D reminds me of Wilt and that most 536 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: great players Lebron, Steph, Magic Bird, Doctor J, Kobe Bryant, 537 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, there's almost an obsessiveness about winning. They their 538 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: moves are always about winning, joining the best. Kad left 539 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: the dynasty to go play with a friend in Brooklyn. 540 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: And like Wilt, Chamberlain like was a man without a country, 541 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: like like Lebro. You know, Wilt was just flaky and 542 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: fun and a big personality. I love Kevin Durant's game. 543 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the great I mean and 544 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean I put him in the MJ. Offensively elite category. 545 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the great offensive players in 546 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. Catch and shoot off the dribble. 547 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: I think he's unbelievable. Do you think history because he's 548 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: bounced around? Will history be kind to Kevin Durant In 549 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: a league where a lot of players don't want to 550 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: make news. I mean, he'll come out and just tell 551 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: you I don't want to be a leader. I'm a baller. 552 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't even care, right, and I like 553 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: that about him. Will history be kind to Durant? 554 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 11: Look, I think Kevin Durant is a top twenty player 555 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 11: of all time. A lot of people think that's too low, 556 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 11: Like some people have him knocking on the door to 557 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 11: top ten. 558 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 10: I say top twenty. And the thing is this, Kyle. Look, 559 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 10: when we talk. 560 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 11: Legacies, obviously we include winning so much, but organization, coaches, teammates, 561 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 11: all of that's important. If Kevin Durant had stay You 562 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 11: mentioned him going to Brooklyn, if he had to each 563 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 11: his own, if he was happy with his moves, then 564 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 11: thank god for that. 565 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 10: It's all. It's about what he wanted to do. But 566 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 10: if he had stayed in Golden State. 567 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 11: Colin he would probably have what four championships, maybe maybe five, 568 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 11: and instead of Steph being. 569 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 10: The guy that's viewed as top ten now all time, Durant. 570 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 11: Would be that guy because people looked at Durant as 571 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 11: the best player on that team. 572 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 10: He won the two finals MVPs. 573 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 11: But when Steph won it without him after Durant left, 574 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 11: he moved up into that top ten. In most people's eyes, 575 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 11: that would have been Durant. So you are right in 576 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 11: that his legacy, I think it's obviously gonna be great, 577 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 11: but it could have been much better had he stayed 578 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 11: in Golden State. And I'll say this for his legacy, 579 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 11: I think Durant is the was the evolution of dark 580 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 11: all right. 581 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 10: He was a bet. 582 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 11: He was like Dirk was that first seven footer that 583 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 11: was primarily a perimeter player and you know, wasn't a 584 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 11: terrific rebounder, defender, but just a score. That was Durant 585 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 11: better shooter, better three point shooter, better score than Dirk. 586 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 10: And guess what. 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 11: I think Wimby now that we're gonna see a bunch 588 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 11: of Wimby's, but he's like the evolution of Durant because 589 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 11: he's he's seven six, Durant can do and so yeah, 590 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 11: Dirk kd Wimby. 591 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 10: But that's the evolution. 592 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff for it was always first things first 593 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: after our show? 594 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: Good see anybody? 595 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 10: All right? Colin? Thanks? 596 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 597 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: I think I don't know where I put Durant, and 598 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: I've never written it down, but I will say that 599 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: I think in the history of basketball, they're not five 600 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: guys more offensively gifted. Oh wow, look at this, Wow wow, 601 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: take a break back. 602 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: News breaking. It's the Hurt. 603 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 604 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 605 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: Oh, this is a breaking news. 606 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Chief's Pro Bowl tight end Travis Kelsey going to be 607 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: thirty seven in October, early in the season. He just 608 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: signed a three year deal worth fifty five million bucks thereabouts. 609 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: You may go about fifty eight with some incentives, but 610 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: I know j Max is not going to like that. Listen, 611 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are still fifth best odds to win the 612 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Why because people are betting the Hunt family, Brett, Veach, Mahomes, 613 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: Kelsey in a big spot, Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola. What 614 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: you're betting on is their excellent leadership. I mean, go 615 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: look at the Patriots last year. How are they so good? 616 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: Part of it was Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels, Mike Grabel, 617 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: the former Patriot, good young quarterback. Their roster wasn't one 618 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: of the two best in football, no way. I mean, 619 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: they all line was a mess. They need another tight 620 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: end and another receiver. This is a leadership league, it really, 621 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: and so to me, how did the Broncos turn around 622 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: the organization with that terrible Cappit Sean Payton. Now they 623 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: have the second or first richest owners in the sport. 624 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, Cortland Sutton, good leader, Garrett Bowles, the left tackle, 625 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: good leadership. It's a leadership league. We all think it's 626 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: a talent league. It's a leadership league. I mean, Aaron 627 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers literally got the Steelers to the playoffs. They didn't 628 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: have a number two receiver. They were an awful offense 629 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: until he got there. They're the oldest defense one of 630 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: them in the league. They overspend on defense. Aaron Rodgers 631 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: leadership EQIQ, whatever you want to call Aaron was just 632 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: made him a very good red zone team. They were 633 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: a terrible red zone team the previous five years. 634 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 10: So I. 635 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: Look at this and I'm like, if this is what Mahomes, 636 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Reid and Brett Veech say, hey he's still great on 637 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: third down, then you know three year deal can end 638 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: up being two years. 639 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's I don't guaranteed money. I get it. 640 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: It's a leadership league and he is gonna be I mean, 641 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: here's the utter thing. The wide receivers for the Chiefs. 642 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Rashi Rice, don't trust his maturity. Xavier worthies talented, but 643 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: a gadget guy. They don't have a I mean, Mkole Hardman, 644 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: they don't have a guy. I trust so Kelsey on 645 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: third down in red zone, I trust him. 646 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Bahalms trust him. Andy Reid trusts him. 647 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 7: So I get you don't like it, though, Well, that's 648 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 7: a good take that you trust Kelsey. Is it also 649 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 7: saying that Veitch and Reid don't trust the wide receivers 650 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 7: trust the week. 651 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trust him either, and it's a bad receiving class. 652 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 7: Now that the counter is I just looked up you 653 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 7: know the history of tight ends who are thirty seven 654 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 7: years old, and according to most of the data, tight 655 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 7: ends starts to decline around thirty two. I can't find 656 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 7: a wide receiver over thirty seven who had a one 657 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 7: thousand yard season eight hundred and fifty nine yards. 658 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 8: Tony Gonzalez seems to. 659 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 3: Be the cap I don't think. 660 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Travis Kelsey is about thousand yard seasons. 661 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I think he is a third down, red zone, fourth 662 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: down situationally excellent player. He and Mahomes can read each 663 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: other's minds. You're not looking for him to have ninety 664 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: four catches. That's not what this is about. 665 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 7: Where are you getting the punch from the running game, 666 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker, I mean over paying for the US. 667 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: I think they believe if they can nail, if they 668 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: can get that right tackle from Utah with their first pick. 669 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: They like Simmons at left tackle, Treed Humphreys awesome at center. Yes, 670 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Trey Smith is outstanding. I think the Chiefs believe, listen, 671 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: our offensive line looked bad last year. We actually think 672 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: if we can solve right tackle, it's really really good. 673 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: So I think their offen I think they kind of 674 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: feel like, listen, we're going to have a rookie right tackle. 675 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: We're going to have a second year left tackle. We 676 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: now have a veteran quarterback, a veteran running back, a 677 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: veteran center. 678 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: We're going to be a little older. 679 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: We're going to be a little older in some spots 680 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: on offense, but the defense is mostly young. Outside of 681 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, it's mostly young. 682 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 3: So I don't like. 683 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: The Trent the Trent McDuffie move bothers me, Kenneth Walker 684 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey. I mean, this is a this is 685 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback league. If if Mahomes is better with a 686 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: new right tackle, Kenneth Walker and Kelsey, then you do it. 687 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 8: Let me let me ask you. 688 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 7: So super Bowl odds have the Chief's fifth best in 689 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 7: the league. 690 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 8: You and I have the Chiefs third best in their division. Right, 691 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 8: So there's a big disconnect here. 692 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 7: Is this you know Vegas saying, hey, by the Chiefs, 693 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 7: low Mahomes is back, they're. 694 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 8: Not going to miss the playoffs. 695 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 7: Again, I think that would be dumb money to invest 696 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 7: in the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. 697 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: Well, it was a down year in the AFC. Lamar 698 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: got hurt, right, There was the McDermott heat, Herbert's both tackles. 699 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: The offensive line was egregiously bad. So it was a 700 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Indiana was playing great until Daniel Jones got hurt. It 701 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: was a weird year in the AFC. My take is 702 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: it's a bounce back year. If Aaron comes back with 703 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, they're going to be a good football team, 704 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: not great, but good. So Travis Kelcey led them in receptions, 705 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns. 706 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 10: And I know he's. 707 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: Older, but again, it's not about total catches. 708 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: That's not what he That's not what he That's what 709 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawks need JSN to be because they don't have 710 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: a dependable two all right, Travis Kelcey Scream seven and 711 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: maybe I get invited to the wedding.