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Speaker 1: happening today. Joint h have David Hellman, of course, one
Speaker 1: of the best. Nick Hman, he's all right, and Derek
Speaker 1: over there. Yes, we thought we were going to have
Speaker 1: a Saturday off from shows, but we are here. Yesterday
Speaker 1: was a very um explosive. That's a good word. Day.
Speaker 1: We necessarily didn't necessarily focus on pract this or what
Speaker 1: was going on out here in the field, although the
Speaker 1: real practice starts today where they throw on the paths
Speaker 1: and we get to see some real football, or close
Speaker 1: to as much as real is gonna get. But mister
Speaker 1: Desk Bryant just went off yesterday and I'm gonna kinda
Speaker 1: tell the story. We're gonna take a step by step
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, because like it's a
Speaker 1: little bit, it's a hell of a story to try
Speaker 1: to I mean, concisely, I will say this. I thought
Speaker 1: Dave had the greatest tweet of Camp so far, and
Speaker 1: it just kind of set the tone of exactly what
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, about the passion. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: bring the passion? Yeah? Oh it's dead? Oh yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And wit and really if you earlier in the day, yes,
Speaker 1: well threw that out there early. The irony a lot
Speaker 1: like a lot of getting ahead of ourselves, like just
Speaker 1: just keep it. Okay, We're gonna recap it a little
Speaker 1: bit and we can comment on it as we go
Speaker 1: through it. And again, if I tell the story wrong,
Speaker 1: correct me. I don't want to do the same as
Speaker 1: this radio station. So point so let me know, let
Speaker 1: me know. It all seemed from Stephen Jones doing a
Speaker 1: quick interview on Series XM NFL Radio and he was
Speaker 1: asked about, you know, the passing game and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and Stephen Jones basically said, here's the quote, He's got
Speaker 1: to trust the system, speaking of dak which at times
Speaker 1: last year there was pressure with death in his ears
Speaker 1: and to some degree, Jason in his ear, those great
Speaker 1: players want the ball. So basically, you know, you have
Speaker 1: great players putting pressure on a young quarterback quarterback and
Speaker 1: it affects the game. Now, this radio station basically took
Speaker 1: that and the way they tweeted it out was leaving
Speaker 1: Jason Witten's name out, pointing everything towards us Briant and
Speaker 1: the part about great players also leaving that part out,
Speaker 1: just saying Ellips ellips e lips wanting the ball, des
Speaker 1: Bryant wanting the ball. So now Death sees that, and
Speaker 1: we already know Death ted him and they made sure
Speaker 1: he saw that. Thirsty the thirsty scoundrels mad it does,
Speaker 1: is a vocal player, and he just kind of went off.
Speaker 1: It was that little thing that just needed to be left.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe everything started obviously from miss worded
Speaker 1: thing where saw it this way, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: then that helped open up some issues that maybe we
Speaker 1: thought about it but never really heard it from anyone
Speaker 1: any player actually coming out and speaking about it. We've
Speaker 1: heard Das talk about Garrett's guys, which colude one of
Speaker 1: you please explain who those are and why that came
Speaker 1: about the whole Garrett right, guys. Well, well, it's the
Speaker 1: thing that stems back to April, like literally what Within
Speaker 1: two weeks of Dez being released, he did an interview
Speaker 1: I believe it was with Jane Slater of NFL Network, UM,
Speaker 1: just where he basically intimated that the Garrett guys on
Speaker 1: the team played a role in his ouster. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you can probably tie those together
Speaker 1: just thinking about him. He mentioned that they had season
Speaker 1: their chests, so that I mean exactly Jason, Shaun Lee,
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick was a former captain at one point, even
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to a degree. But I mean, you know
Speaker 1: the guys that you probably think about when you think
Speaker 1: about Jason Garrett's off to repeated, right kind of guy's
Speaker 1: mantra h. Dez was a little bit more diplomatic about
Speaker 1: it in the spring, but yesterday he just decided to
Speaker 1: put it all out there. He mentioned Travis and Sean
Speaker 1: by name. He actually called Shaun Lee a snake, which
Speaker 1: you know, I'm familiar with that if it's Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: we're talking about, but I didn't know that that applied
Speaker 1: to football players too. Um. I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: it was just scorched earth and so, uh, I was
Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday, like this has been kind of
Speaker 1: a sniping campaign for a few months now, Like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have intimated some things about Dez, not openly, and
Speaker 1: Dez has intimated some things about the Cowboys, and it
Speaker 1: just boiled over into outright hostility yesterday starting with Dez
Speaker 1: for sure. But that's kind of what he was getting at,
Speaker 1: is that he is of the belief that players on
Speaker 1: the team contributed to him being released, and between what
Speaker 1: were you going to say? I mean, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna I mean the tweet from Serious Radio that that
Speaker 1: that's irrelevant to be at this point. I mean, they
Speaker 1: they did that, they sparked, it doesn't matter. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who through the first punch or whatever,
Speaker 1: the fact of what happened afterwards. And he was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, all of these things that that he believes
Speaker 1: to be true. I mean that that's what the real
Speaker 1: issue is. Yeah, I mean it was it was unfortunate
Speaker 1: that it started that way, and it wasn't it shouldn't
Speaker 1: have probably even happened. But the real truth came out
Speaker 1: from from his standpoint, and I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: I just feel like you know, and it wasn't just
Speaker 1: just Sean Lee. And it was also the play calling
Speaker 1: he talked about that, which I thought is the most
Speaker 1: ironic part of it all because from everything that I've
Speaker 1: ever heard since des Brian got here to the fact
Speaker 1: that his eight years is that he was hard to
Speaker 1: work with as a as a as a wide receiver
Speaker 1: because he couldn't always line up where they wanted him
Speaker 1: to be, so for him to say yeah, yeah and
Speaker 1: they couldn't, and he was basically saying the offense was
Speaker 1: very vanilla, and from everything I've ever heard for eight years,
Speaker 1: it was that way, and he was one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why. So it was that was really ironic that
Speaker 1: he was calling out people for not, you know, being
Speaker 1: more imaginative, and he's kind of the reason why there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say this though, Nick, I know I get
Speaker 1: your point when you say it's kind of irrelevant how
Speaker 1: they got there. The reason I think that still is
Speaker 1: somewhat relevant is because to me, it's still kind of
Speaker 1: illustrates some of the challenges that you run into when
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Dez. Yes, Dez got baited
Speaker 1: and he got baited by bad information, right, but the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that that's a part of
Speaker 1: his personality too. He's not the kind of person that's
Speaker 1: going to be in a situation where something comes up
Speaker 1: and before and he's going to take time to really
Speaker 1: digest what's happening before he responds. He's a volatile guy
Speaker 1: and he's going to jump right on it. And that's
Speaker 1: what he did yesterday. He jumped right on. He felt
Speaker 1: attacked and he attacked back. And I get it. I
Speaker 1: understand because he's probably this probably isn't the first time
Speaker 1: he's probably felt attacked by things that people in this
Speaker 1: organization have said since the time that he left. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is it still does illustrate
Speaker 1: character traits in him that could be problematic for a
Speaker 1: team that's thinking about right. All I'm saying is is that,
Speaker 1: like it's the biggest thing, is what I think what
Speaker 1: he said about Sean Lee, you know, and it just
Speaker 1: reminded me of when you're talking about the Auburn Hills
Speaker 1: an Alice at the Palace, you know, like, what do
Speaker 1: you remember that we'll run our test went into the
Speaker 1: stand of fought someone, but right, but something twelve things
Speaker 1: happened beforehand that no one really talks about at this point.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter is what happened here. That's what That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're you're absolutely I mean, and I
Speaker 1: agree with both of you. I get your point. I
Speaker 1: agree with Derek that me selfishly, it's relevant because it
Speaker 1: makes our jobs harder. Yeah, like more fun this, I've
Speaker 1: more fun, definitely, don't get me wrong. What's fun Yesterday
Speaker 1: was sun Selfishly, I kind of live for days like yesterday,
Speaker 1: but also like, as a journalist, it's annoying. This is
Speaker 1: my personal opinion. I'll own it. You can't convince me
Speaker 1: that that was done on accident. Like, if you go,
Speaker 1: it's a deleted tweet, shocker, if you go look at
Speaker 1: the original tweet and the full context that Amber gave
Speaker 1: us in the full quote that you can't tell me
Speaker 1: that was an accident. The way they worded it, the
Speaker 1: fact that they tagged Dez Bryant, they were looking for
Speaker 1: something to pick up traction anyway, they doctored the quote
Speaker 1: like they doctored the quote. I refused to believe it
Speaker 1: was an accident based on looking at him side by side.
Speaker 1: So for me, people already hate me as it is
Speaker 1: it's just one more reason for people to not want
Speaker 1: me around not you know, like I've got my phone
Speaker 1: all the time, and that's that's how you wind up
Speaker 1: getting looked at as like the media, sensational media by
Speaker 1: fans and by players. I hate that crap because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm out here trying to do my job the right
Speaker 1: way and other people's mess ups contribute to people not
Speaker 1: liking me, which I mean that goes with the territory,
Speaker 1: but so just unfortunate all the way around, because I mean,
Speaker 1: if they'd done it the right way, I highly doubt
Speaker 1: as would have ever said anything, and we wouldn't be
Speaker 1: having this conversation. But to nixt point, the toothpaste is
Speaker 1: out of the tube at this point, and there's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot you can do about it. Now. I
Speaker 1: will say this about what does it mean? What does
Speaker 1: it mean for here? I actually, now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, I think that some of the questions we
Speaker 1: were asking yesterday about the leadership and who's going to
Speaker 1: step up, now things are happening where you're starting to
Speaker 1: see it. You're starting to see some definition of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's we knew Sean Lee was going to
Speaker 1: be the leader you know, of this team. But but
Speaker 1: he he did it, he acted like it. He comes
Speaker 1: off the practice field yesterday, I have kent who's gonna
Speaker 1: play the Audio's gonna play it perfectly. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: if there was any question about who's gonna be our
Speaker 1: the leaders around here, Sean Lee took the ball and
Speaker 1: he ran with it. Oh yeah yeah. And did also
Speaker 1: call Shan Lee a backstabber just because of the fact
Speaker 1: that he sat right across from him and never actually
Speaker 1: said anything about, you know, any issues regarding to you know,
Speaker 1: death having a problem. I don't know, but Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: came out and I think he spoke very well. He
Speaker 1: didn't say anything negative about death and kind of retiate it.
Speaker 1: How do you say the fact that, um, this is
Speaker 1: a great player and good players won the ball? Basically
Speaker 1: nothing negative. Then Travis Frederick responded back to that, saying
Speaker 1: he considers and a friend and it's sad that well
Speaker 1: when you see players or teammates turn on each other
Speaker 1: and all that. Then Sean Lee came back with a
Speaker 1: very intense quote and statement, who I thought was very
Speaker 1: impressive and unexpected. I inspect him to say that way,
Speaker 1: but he looked right into the camera instead the following.
Speaker 1: You know, first thing, to say that I can get
Speaker 1: anybody off the team and having input on the roster
Speaker 1: is absurd. Second thing, I love Daz and I want
Speaker 1: the best for him. Um, you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: we did but hit because I wanted Das to be
Speaker 1: more accountable to this team and this teammates, and to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, a lot of the team felt
Speaker 1: that way. Um, I think he needs to look at
Speaker 1: himself and hold himself accountable. Thank you, thank you. There
Speaker 1: you have it. And funny how the words thank you
Speaker 1: can found like thank you. But it's just like what
Speaker 1: that said about you know, he we've talked about the
Speaker 1: anthem stuff and he said, you know, and I believe
Speaker 1: what I believe, and that's you know, and that's that,
Speaker 1: you know, just just a little way to end it
Speaker 1: is kind of like it's just a little bit more
Speaker 1: emphatic thank you. Yeah. Reminds me of Less Miles saying
Speaker 1: have a great day way back in the day. He
Speaker 1: didn't really mean have a great day anyway. Um. I
Speaker 1: think anybody listening to this show probably follows the Cowboys
Speaker 1: closely enough that they can put this together. But I
Speaker 1: can't say enough about what it means that Sean Lee
Speaker 1: said something like that. Um, I was telling y'all just
Speaker 1: before we went on the air, like he's I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was gonna talk. First of all, because he's
Speaker 1: a he's a he's a he's like Dez, he's a
Speaker 1: passionate guy. I figured he would be so hot, he
Speaker 1: would just be like, get get the cameras out of
Speaker 1: my face. I'm not talking right now. But he came
Speaker 1: right of it was like, this is what I gotta say.
Speaker 1: So I run over there and I put my recorder
Speaker 1: in the crowd, and like, in the back of my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, here comes a bland statement from Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: Because Sean Lee is smart enough to be deliberately bland,
Speaker 1: and that was not what we got at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: he short circuited my brain because and I don't mean
Speaker 1: this as any disrespect to Shawn Lee. I think the
Speaker 1: world of him, But he talks on Friday during the
Speaker 1: regular season. He's he's the go to Friday player, and
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time I skip his press sessions
Speaker 1: because I just know no good quotes are going to
Speaker 1: come out of it. I'm just like, Sean is too
Speaker 1: smart and too deliberate to give me something that I need,
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go somewhere else. And that was
Speaker 1: the opposite. And like I said, I can't say enough
Speaker 1: about what that means coming from him, Like Dez Bryant's
Speaker 1: the type of guy who says something like that, and
Speaker 1: see that's Sean Lee and and but it was it
Speaker 1: was so cool because it needed to be said. And
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, if there's any doubt about
Speaker 1: who's the later on this team, because because now I
Speaker 1: mean and and Derek, I'm sure can attest to this.
Speaker 1: When when you're the boss of a group and you
Speaker 1: kind of get attacked, you know, all your people are
Speaker 1: kind of looking at you a little bit like how's
Speaker 1: he going to react? You got one way to handle
Speaker 1: this or another. And before Jason Witten could have handled
Speaker 1: it certain way, or you know, maybe it's somebody else,
Speaker 1: but now it's Sean Lee. And so Sean's got to
Speaker 1: set the tone to all these other eighty nine players
Speaker 1: behind him and says, you know what, I'm this, this
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. You're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: allow to say that, you know, and he said it
Speaker 1: in a great way. Hey, I love this and and
Speaker 1: and it'll when it blows over then everybody will still
Speaker 1: be cool about it. But but as for right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had problems. I thought it was great. I thought
Speaker 1: it was it was great. Set the tone too for
Speaker 1: me Again, you know, I think if you listen to
Speaker 1: this show regularly, and if you follow the Cowboys really
Speaker 1: closely the way that I think most of our listeners do,
Speaker 1: I feel like this was kind of there for you
Speaker 1: to pick up on, you know, like if you really
Speaker 1: just between that. Like I said, this isn't the first
Speaker 1: time this has been addressed. It's been addressed a lot
Speaker 1: more vaguely, but the clues are kind of there. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: like I've said, you know, people have hinted at like,
Speaker 1: well maybe it'll be better without voices in Dak's ear
Speaker 1: and and Dez has made his comments about Garrett guys,
Speaker 1: and so it was there to pick up on. And
Speaker 1: so now I think it just kind of spells it
Speaker 1: out a little bit more clearly that this was clearly
Speaker 1: a thing. And I agree with Sean that no, no
Speaker 1: players got the got the power to make personnel moves.
Speaker 1: I loved Travis. What did Travis says, like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're being hard pressed if you're gonna have to search
Speaker 1: long and hard to find a fifth year player who's
Speaker 1: in charge of personnel decisions. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: these are weighty voices in the Cowboys organization. And and
Speaker 1: they again like, no, did they make that call? No,
Speaker 1: but there was certainly input. You're crazy if you don't
Speaker 1: think that there's input coming from your veteran players. You're
Speaker 1: crazy if you don't think that there's input coming from
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback about making a decision like that. And
Speaker 1: that's not to say, you know, there was like this
Speaker 1: conspiracy to kick Daz off the team, but you know,
Speaker 1: I brought this up yesterday talking with Rob Phillips. You know, um,
Speaker 1: at dinner we're talking about a guy who like in
Speaker 1: his eighth year, missed an MRI because he was worried
Speaker 1: about like what the like, he literally disappeared from the
Speaker 1: facility for two days because he was worried about what
Speaker 1: is MR. I might say, like, it's just you know, basically,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is it's charming and Dez
Speaker 1: being Dez when you're catching sixteen touchdowns and winning for
Speaker 1: thirteen games. It's a lot more of a pain to
Speaker 1: deal with in the vigors and the ups and downs
Speaker 1: of a mediocre season. And I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it probably wor thin across the organization a lot
Speaker 1: of because you have a wide receiver position that that was,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, out of control. I mean, when when
Speaker 1: Dez is the leader, and he's the leader because he
Speaker 1: was the best player in that group for so many years,
Speaker 1: but when the leaders doing certain things, I mean, why
Speaker 1: would Terrence Williams do anything other than whether he's seeing
Speaker 1: right here? You know, I'm not going to call des
Speaker 1: t o, but but we've said it before. When when
Speaker 1: when the greatest, you know player in a certain position
Speaker 1: is maybe undermining the overall message of what the team is,
Speaker 1: then it's hard for these what happens to Cole Beasley?
Speaker 1: What happens to Terrence Williams? We're in the you know
Speaker 1: position groups here Do I follow here? Or do I
Speaker 1: follow over here? And it's, like we've always said, it
Speaker 1: halts leadership a little bit. And like with Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I know his character. He we
Speaker 1: all know how responsible he is, how dedicated to the game.
Speaker 1: He is how passionate and just so into the game,
Speaker 1: Like I seriously could not see Shanlee doing anything else
Speaker 1: but football. He's so concentrated about it and discipline. Now
Speaker 1: you get a guy like Dos who obviously passionate about
Speaker 1: it as well, but not necessarily caring as much as
Speaker 1: far as the responsibility of like showing on time, you know,
Speaker 1: being there at certain times and doing certain things. And
Speaker 1: when you get to people like that at the same time,
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna have a problem and it's not gonna
Speaker 1: work out as far as leadership. And we know when
Speaker 1: and how he was as well, just kind of staying
Speaker 1: out of trouble and all that. So my point is
Speaker 1: hearing shans lee answer was just so transparent and true
Speaker 1: to his care character, and it just gives you a
Speaker 1: real perspective of how it was backstage of the things
Speaker 1: we were imagining. But the one thing I think you
Speaker 1: have to note about that is there still is some
Speaker 1: inaccuracy here on what really happened from that standpoint, because
Speaker 1: Dez basically made it appear as though, Hey, if he
Speaker 1: had a problem with me, he never came to me
Speaker 1: to talk to me about it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: Sean says, yeah, we butt heads a lot because I
Speaker 1: wanted more of Dez. I wanted him to be more
Speaker 1: accountable to his teammates, and he wasn't. So there's obviously
Speaker 1: they don't even see the same. They don't see their
Speaker 1: relationship and what happened I guess over the years the same,
Speaker 1: what happened last year as the same, because one thinks
Speaker 1: that they didn't have a lot of conversations, the other
Speaker 1: them feels like they had a lot of conversations, and
Speaker 1: but it heads quite a bit because they weren't seeing
Speaker 1: things eyed eye, which I can totally. I can just
Speaker 1: see that disconnect clearly in my brain of like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing Sean Lee was afraid
Speaker 1: to tell anybody exactly how he felt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But with Dez, maybe budding heads for five
Speaker 1: minutes doesn't register as like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like him, It is just kind of like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw Sean. Yeah, we had a little bit like I
Speaker 1: was late, okay, cool, we talked about whatever. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I can see that clearly in
Speaker 1: my head. And like I said, personalities, I think it
Speaker 1: would be a mistake to think of like this. You know,
Speaker 1: the captains of the Dallas Cowboys did not walk into
Speaker 1: Jerry and Steven's office and say, we gotta get rid
Speaker 1: of Dez. I don't buy that. I think it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's collective conversations over the course of years, over
Speaker 1: the course of months of like you know, taught you know, like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think, Like how does this affect
Speaker 1: the locker room dynamic? Like that, and you give your
Speaker 1: honest feedback and you make your decision from there. I
Speaker 1: one percent don't think that the decision makers of the
Speaker 1: organization decided to cut Dez strictly based on what their
Speaker 1: players told them. That would be a terrible way to
Speaker 1: run a team. But it's, you know, to quote Jerry
Speaker 1: and Garrett, actually is it's all part of a puzzle.
Speaker 1: You know. Player input goes into the salary cap it
Speaker 1: goes into lining production, all that type of stuff, and
Speaker 1: you make your best decision from there. They parted ways
Speaker 1: with him, and that's pretty much where we stand now.
Speaker 1: And now you know, you have to make the determination
Speaker 1: does he really want to play football? I mean, does
Speaker 1: I mean he's you can say that you do, but
Speaker 1: but you know you're on the radar for for another job.
Speaker 1: They're they're trying to figure out if they want, you know,
Speaker 1: Cleveland wants to figure out if they want to bring
Speaker 1: him in or not. And you go and do all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll stop you there. Let's take a quick break, and
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Speaker 1: If you go in there and you check out Cowboys Break,
Speaker 1: you'll see we have our fan pulse up. The question
Speaker 1: we have up is duty you believe more Sean Lee
Speaker 1: or does Bryant? I want to see I'm actually interested
Speaker 1: to see how fans are falling on this, because I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of stuff on Twitter yesterday. Some people
Speaker 1: were really hard like, hey, this is Dez is right,
Speaker 1: Like what he's saying is accurate. Other people were like,
Speaker 1: I kind of think Sean's more accurate on this thing.
Speaker 1: So I want to hear kind of what fans think
Speaker 1: about that. I said this last night, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe it, like the truth is in the middle,
Speaker 1: like those people. Probably people can be a little bit right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dez can be right to be a little bit miffed
Speaker 1: if his teammates were talking behind his back. And Sean
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent right to truthfully say that Dez
Speaker 1: is not the most accountable guy in the world. We've
Speaker 1: known that for forever. So there's nothing groundbreaking, no outside
Speaker 1: of what he said about the offense. So are we
Speaker 1: gonna be able to know who won? Yes? Right now,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's up. But but yeah, yes, for now, we
Speaker 1: have Mike from Arizona on the phone. Hey, how are
Speaker 1: you guys doing? Hey, Hi, Hey, thanks for working on
Speaker 1: a Saturday. I'm hoping it right now in this heat
Speaker 1: and you're having you guys in my ear birds at
Speaker 1: least gets an now out for that man. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys working on a Saturday. Awesome, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so So, I guess the problem of the
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas situation is we're going to the wrong people.
Speaker 1: We should go for Sean Lee. Talk to shaw Lee
Speaker 1: to pick up m Earl Thomas because he's the one
Speaker 1: making all the personnel moves. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And it's it's such, it's such for for days and
Speaker 1: where he's at, you know, as fans, you know, to
Speaker 1: see that, and then the inner works we want to
Speaker 1: see stuff stay in house. But somebody like Days, that's
Speaker 1: just passionate. It's gonna let that out. It's it's just
Speaker 1: sad the perception of here and hey, I love this too,
Speaker 1: but it's so go cowboys stays. Guys, all right, thank
Speaker 1: you for put Sean Lee in a room with John
Speaker 1: Schneider and we'll get Earl Thomas for a sixth round pick. Actually,
Speaker 1: but then, you know, we laugh about that. But you know,
Speaker 1: people they say that, but it's really hard for anybody
Speaker 1: to kind of say we need this or we need that,
Speaker 1: because when it doesn't work out, then you're like, what's up, Xavier?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Man? Good luck? All right? You
Speaker 1: know it's hard for and I'm not saying that Sean
Speaker 1: does that, but it's hard for even Steven to go
Speaker 1: and say we're interested in any of that or really
Speaker 1: throw it out there, because when it doesn't go down,
Speaker 1: it's like when someone tries to interview for another job
Speaker 1: and they don't get it, and then they come back
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to be here, you know, like really
Speaker 1: which get linked in? I wasn't sure when I wanted
Speaker 1: to say this, but it's a perfect segue with what
Speaker 1: Mike said. I want to be careful. Certainly, you can
Speaker 1: be critical of them. I don't want to do the
Speaker 1: easy thing that it's easy to do when a player
Speaker 1: leaves and just demonized Dez. I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1: Like my opinion of Dez Bryant is the same today
Speaker 1: as it always was, like that, I mean, that's Dez,
Speaker 1: That's the whole package of Dez. That's what he's always been.
Speaker 1: It's awesome when he's catching sixteen touchdowns and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are winning the division and and I completely to my
Speaker 1: soul believe Sean Lee and Travis Frederick when they say
Speaker 1: he's one of the best teammates I've ever had. Uh,
Speaker 1: he can be like he's he's such a supportive guy,
Speaker 1: like he loves those guys, like there's a a giving guy.
Speaker 1: And again, absolutely like loyal. I see him very loyal.
Speaker 1: He is not a bad person. He is an extremely
Speaker 1: flawed person. Um and again he's playing that for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's an interesting statement. I want
Speaker 1: you to explain. He's his own worst enemy. He always
Speaker 1: has been. I mean, you know, he he didn't play
Speaker 1: his final season of college football because of mistakes that
Speaker 1: he made. Yeah, he fell in the draft partially probably
Speaker 1: because of this. He's never been able to get out
Speaker 1: of his own way. His passion, his intensity takes over
Speaker 1: logic and common sense. A lot of times we've seen it.
Speaker 1: We saw it happen in Detroit in twenty thirteen. We
Speaker 1: saw it happen with the missed MRI. Like there's six
Speaker 1: dozen other instances that I can't remember right now at
Speaker 1: the top of my head. It's just who he is.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it can be a distraction, it can be
Speaker 1: it can I'm sure it can take a toll on
Speaker 1: people in the locker room. Just constantly having that around.
Speaker 1: Clearly it did, or else he'd still be here, I think.
Speaker 1: But he's also the guy that went to Walmart and
Speaker 1: bought PlayStations for people at midnight. He's also the guy,
Speaker 1: like I said, like he's extremely loyal, he's extremely loving
Speaker 1: and all that. Like, well, it's never black and white.
Speaker 1: That's what I always try to say. He's he's the
Speaker 1: same guy that he was. He reached a breaking point
Speaker 1: with the situation that clearly upset him and then it
Speaker 1: doesn't take a degree in rocket science to know that
Speaker 1: it probably did, and so it's unfortunate. But I think
Speaker 1: it would be lazy and easy just to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's the worst, when I just don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1: Let's take another call Danny in Hawaii, Aloha, Hi, guys.
Speaker 1: We had this little comment on the des thing um,
Speaker 1: you know, like how David Helmet said was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's you know, you gotta loved this passion all
Speaker 1: the time, you know how how much he loves the
Speaker 1: game and stuff like that. But at the same time
Speaker 1: too is like you know, missing meetings, being late for meetings.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what Sean Lee is talking about. Being
Speaker 1: more accountable. You know, I did agree that it was
Speaker 1: frustrating sometimes the play calling. But that's the thing if
Speaker 1: you if you're in the meetings, you can voice your opinion,
Speaker 1: you know, get to play called, you know, like voice
Speaker 1: your frustrations that way and stuff like that. And we're
Speaker 1: real quick. Um, I hope I want to see Blia
Speaker 1: Collins more and more because if if he's you know,
Speaker 1: he faced some big time pass rushers last year and
Speaker 1: first time out there, and you know, I want to
Speaker 1: see how much more better he gets with a full
Speaker 1: off season, another full off season at right tackle. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Allah, thank you, thank you. Nick. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question. And you know, speaking we
Speaker 1: keep talking about this Brian and the way he was
Speaker 1: during the season and in the locker room and all that. Now,
Speaker 1: when you get attacked on social media, and someone with
Speaker 1: the popularity that he has and you get all those
Speaker 1: tweets attacking you, it affects you. Whether you want it
Speaker 1: or not, it does affect you. And it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you are, it will affect you, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: sorry no. Jason Witton ironically wrote out a column yesterday
Speaker 1: and talked about how social media affects this whole dynamic.
Speaker 1: Can you expand on that? I I mean, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna spending on that. I don't really like the column.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was it was a good column. Um,
Speaker 1: so because it's it's it's not saying anything. It's not
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I understand he's throwing certain guys
Speaker 1: out there, but you're not really saying anything. So you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I get accused all the time of like
Speaker 1: kind of beating around the bush, and let me say it.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna say it, say it. And so I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think ESPN wanted him to
Speaker 1: write a column and he kind of did, and he
Speaker 1: danced around stuff and you can kind of say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's talking about this guy or this guy, but
Speaker 1: but not really. I mean, it was ironic that it
Speaker 1: all happened on kind of one day like that about
Speaker 1: basically saying, hey, this guy, you know, you need to
Speaker 1: stay off Twitter, and then the guy can't can't stay
Speaker 1: off Twitter. So, um, you know, Dez could never be
Speaker 1: a defensive end because he would jump offsides all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, he you can just you can just bait
Speaker 1: him and then he jumps off sides and that's what
Speaker 1: he did yesterday and he kind of took it to
Speaker 1: another level. So but but he's everything. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say this earlier. He is absolutely everything that the Scouting
Speaker 1: Report in two thousand and ten and said that he
Speaker 1: would be. He's everything he's I mean, he was gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna be late for meetings, he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: most passionate player. He's gonna be the most talented player.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna catch all these touchdowns. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have some off the field issues, he's gonna be all
Speaker 1: of these things. And the thing is is that you
Speaker 1: put up with all of it when he's doing all
Speaker 1: these things. But when his skills start to diminish a
Speaker 1: little bit and all of those things still happen, and
Speaker 1: then he's frustrated too because he's not the same guy
Speaker 1: that he was and he knows that. And now he's
Speaker 1: getting called out by Josh Norman because these guys are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got big bad days, Like ain't that good? Not anymore?
Speaker 1: He's not like he was. And then I think then
Speaker 1: it's and then he got a real problem because now
Speaker 1: do you still put up with it because he's not
Speaker 1: necessarily the same. So I agree with everything that you said, David.
Speaker 1: It's just that he just gets to a point where
Speaker 1: it's like, now you know, now you're dealing with this
Speaker 1: and the production is not really matching it. You'll put
Speaker 1: up with it if you're getting sixteen fittingly. This goes
Speaker 1: back to the conversations we had right here on these
Speaker 1: tennis courts last summer with Zeke, which is the off
Speaker 1: beaten into the ground phrase, right kind of guy? What
Speaker 1: is right kind of guy? Line? One good football player? Like,
Speaker 1: if you're a great football player, you're the right kind
Speaker 1: of guy. And if you're not a great football player,
Speaker 1: then you need to be accountable and go to meet
Speaker 1: and don't get in trouble. If you're catching again for
Speaker 1: the third time on the show, if you're catching sixteen touchdowns,
Speaker 1: you can miss meetings and do all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's when you're not doing that anymore that the rest
Speaker 1: of that comes into play. If you're not great and
Speaker 1: you're not accountable and you're not all that stuff, it
Speaker 1: wears thin out there. And that's I mean, you saw
Speaker 1: it happen and we spend the whole well part of
Speaker 1: the off season speaking about you know, oh, where's gun?
Speaker 1: Does Brian gonna end up? What? You know, what team
Speaker 1: is he gonna go to? And we've heard reports about
Speaker 1: the Browns trying to acquire him. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much I would be interested to see where it goes
Speaker 1: from here with him. I mean, man, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: rule that he could still get signed after all of this,
Speaker 1: but he based I mean, in case anyone forgot, he
Speaker 1: gave the whole league a crash course in what he
Speaker 1: brings to the table, like the whole thing, you know,
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing I think that that can scare
Speaker 1: teams at this point is every team, I don't care
Speaker 1: who they are, every single team, throughout the course of
Speaker 1: a training camp and a regular season and postseason, if
Speaker 1: you're there, is going to have moments in that season,
Speaker 1: in that year when things will happen in the locker
Speaker 1: room that don't necessarily get reported that aren't good for
Speaker 1: team chemistry if they get reported right. They need to
Speaker 1: be able to and I'm talking about the executives of
Speaker 1: an organization, they need to be able to trust that
Speaker 1: all the people have access to that locker room are
Speaker 1: at least smart enough and have enough discretion to know
Speaker 1: not to say those things in public. What does show
Speaker 1: the league yesterday is hey, if things are going good,
Speaker 1: I'll keep the secrets. If they're not, and if I
Speaker 1: feel scorned, then maybe I won't. And maybe the thing
Speaker 1: things that we kind of talked about in our locker
Speaker 1: room or that players talked about amongst themselves now will
Speaker 1: become public because I will make them public. That's where
Speaker 1: I think this whole thing can become a problem for Dez.
Speaker 1: You've got the Browns talking about they're sniffing around. I
Speaker 1: wonder if now that makes them, that gives them pause.
Speaker 1: You certainly think about teams that he's mentioned that he
Speaker 1: wants to go to, like let's say the Giants. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're looking at it like if they were even
Speaker 1: contemplating the possibility. I'm sure they look at him like
Speaker 1: we got enough of those kind of players on our team.
Speaker 1: Do we want another one that could possibly add even
Speaker 1: more drama to the mix. I just think all in
Speaker 1: des didn't do himself in he favors and that's just
Speaker 1: the nature of people. Like whenever we as people take
Speaker 1: those opportunities to go off as people say, it's never
Speaker 1: gonna come back good to you. It makes you feel
Speaker 1: good in a moment, but it's never gonna come back good.
Speaker 1: But I think what's being lost there is is we're
Speaker 1: talking about all the off the field stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But for Dez Brian to be I mean, to be good,
Speaker 1: he needs to be paired up with the right people,
Speaker 1: the right quarterback, the right system. I think he was
Speaker 1: crazy for not taking any kind of deal to go
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. I thought that was a perfect setup for
Speaker 1: him because that he could still be one of the
Speaker 1: top receivers, if not the number one. You're dealing with
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You can say what you want about Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: but he's been around the league, he's won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and yeah, he throws it deep deep balls. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, no, he's not the best in the league,
Speaker 1: but it's certainly not the worst. And he knows the
Speaker 1: system and he could be in there for long. Now.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to Cleveland when they've got a quarterback
Speaker 1: now that they really want to replace, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: wait for Baker to replace them, and who knows when
Speaker 1: that'll be in first game, second game, whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: the first sign of trouble, they're gonna be like Baker.
Speaker 1: You know, it's why they drafted him. And so why
Speaker 1: go into a system where now you got to learn
Speaker 1: it on the run like that, and you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a group with those those wide receivers. You know that
Speaker 1: they've they've kind of been in the headlines for other
Speaker 1: reasons as well. So I say they got I mean,
Speaker 1: they got enough to worry about with their receivers. And
Speaker 1: you know who wants it, you know who you know
Speaker 1: who wants it more than anybody hbo Oh yeah, hard knocks.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about There's no doubt about it. Now,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if a team loses
Speaker 1: their wide receiver during let's say whatever weight three, who's
Speaker 1: gonna get a call? Brian? Well, absolutely if you're still
Speaker 1: out there, all bets are off once tendons start getting torn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I agree with that, But that's also
Speaker 1: to me, that's also the problem for Dez is you
Speaker 1: just finished talking about at the beginning of the show
Speaker 1: that Dez in his career here has not been the
Speaker 1: most reliable when it comes to really being able to
Speaker 1: grasp and understand his role on every single play and
Speaker 1: being able to move him around as a result of that. Right,
Speaker 1: So you now take him into a team where he's
Speaker 1: got a brand new system to learn. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: there during during offseason training, he hasn't been there during
Speaker 1: training camp, and now he's expected to pick up an
Speaker 1: offense and be able to function in it in a
Speaker 1: short period of time. I think that's not doing Deaz again.
Speaker 1: That's not doing Dez doing favors with him being successful
Speaker 1: for again for a one year deal, which is what
Speaker 1: he's pushing for to then be able to hopefully get
Speaker 1: him a better deal next Ryan. Right, let's take our
Speaker 1: final call Jos Joseph from California. Hello, Hey, what's up man?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing great? First off, I've been
Speaker 1: as j Bryan fan. I followed him since it's current
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in two thousand and seven, two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine and just out of college. He was a beast.
Speaker 1: He never worked on his route running and that was
Speaker 1: clear as day a few years back when Generals Jenkins
Speaker 1: was shutting him down when they played against the Rams,
Speaker 1: and then his body started breaking down. But he just
Speaker 1: always wanted to fly. His physical attributes instead of taking
Speaker 1: the time in the office. He's even with the romo.
Speaker 1: If the ball wasn't a perfectly like a perfect route,
Speaker 1: she was always off like he dropped the ball. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that has to go get the ball instead
Speaker 1: of the ball being placed perfectly to him, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what mass him. I've seen the series All
Speaker 1: and Nothing three or four times, and the one thing
Speaker 1: that stands out is when doing the wide receiver meeting
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the Denver game an the entire time,
Speaker 1: he glows up on the wide receiver coach when they're
Speaker 1: talking about the best bbs. But he's saying, you can
Speaker 1: take out Talib and take out the other dude of
Speaker 1: Brandon Rogue, I think it was. And he just couldn't
Speaker 1: get shut down. He's all talk now and it hurts
Speaker 1: to see such a great guy go down like that.
Speaker 1: But he used to work on his attribute as well
Speaker 1: as his rout running. All right, thanks for the calls,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I mean he was And I
Speaker 1: tweeted this several times during games, and it would be
Speaker 1: every time my Deaz would do it, and you know
Speaker 1: you had a phrase for it. When he would make
Speaker 1: this some unbelievable player. You basically said Dez being Deaz
Speaker 1: or doing Dez things. And I would always say, I'm
Speaker 1: just better than you. I'm just better, Like in that
Speaker 1: Saints game a few years ago when he just kept
Speaker 1: catching these long touchdowns and he's like, I'm just better
Speaker 1: than you. He really, I didn't haven't tweeted that in
Speaker 1: a while, you know, just because those skills, I mean,
Speaker 1: he just doesn't have it anymore. He didn't have to
Speaker 1: do great chrisp route running because he can just out
Speaker 1: athlete somebody else. But he wasn't better than to keep
Speaker 1: to leave and Chris Harris on the other side, those
Speaker 1: guys were better. There's a lot of corners now that
Speaker 1: are better. But here's the interesting part. He still thinks that,
Speaker 1: and that's the problem. And that was what when I
Speaker 1: first saw that, that whole segment on All or Nothing,
Speaker 1: I was like, to me, that's the microcosm of why
Speaker 1: he's no longer with the Cowboys, because in that room,
Speaker 1: when the coach is trying to say, hey, receiver group,
Speaker 1: these guys are really really good and they can embarrass
Speaker 1: you if you don't play your best game. What he
Speaker 1: did was basically short circuit that whole thing and say, huh,
Speaker 1: we're good too. And what happened that week? They got embarrassed,
Speaker 1: like we have not seen this team get embarrassed like
Speaker 1: that in the Jason Garrett era, Jason Garrett era in
Speaker 1: my opinion, like they just got completely destroyed and there
Speaker 1: was no competition, like from the beginning of the game
Speaker 1: to the end of the game, they just weren't competitive.
Speaker 1: And so all that being helped too. And so with
Speaker 1: all that being said, I think that is kind of
Speaker 1: the that to me just kind of sums up why
Speaker 1: DES's stay here was just it just couldn't continue because
Speaker 1: he's now affecting everybody else that room with his bravido
Speaker 1: that he just can't I don't think he could back
Speaker 1: it up the same way he wants could. I got
Speaker 1: a pretty big kick out of Derek Dooley. It's like,
Speaker 1: what do you want? What would you like me to
Speaker 1: say this? How would you like me to present this information?
Speaker 1: Trying very hard to find a way. Oh man. I
Speaker 1: think that also has to do with it the whole
Speaker 1: coaching part of it as well, because if you don't
Speaker 1: have a teacher, let's say, coach that you respect to
Speaker 1: a level, or if you, as a coach allowed certain
Speaker 1: things to happen, then that player is gonna end up
Speaker 1: moving you around, doing with you whatever you want, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're just not gonna do what they say.
Speaker 1: I used to this has nothing to do but to
Speaker 1: apply to this. I had a personal trainer and the
Speaker 1: guy was massive and all that, but then he became
Speaker 1: a talker and then I'm like, okay, I stopped listening
Speaker 1: to him, Like, you know, like I just did whatever
Speaker 1: I wanted and it wasn't effective anymore. So you need
Speaker 1: someone that can put you down and make you do
Speaker 1: what you need to do, and someone who you respect
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, So you are you saying that you
Speaker 1: don't think And this is a question for all you guys.
Speaker 1: Do you think that by the end of last year,
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley no longer control that room from the standpoint
Speaker 1: that what he said what he said had more weight
Speaker 1: than what Dez said in that room. I don't think
Speaker 1: of it as like, well, I mean like Dez leading
Speaker 1: some kind of mutiny in the receiver room. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that either, but I mean it's pretty just
Speaker 1: from watching that stuff, it's pretty obvious that at the
Speaker 1: it sounded like white noise, you know what. It's just
Speaker 1: it's not getting through, like not that they're just like man,
Speaker 1: screw dully, like not like that, but just kind of like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we got this meeting. Cool, you're talking cool, there's some
Speaker 1: tape all right? We done like that type of thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it affects the other
Speaker 1: guys in the room trying to listen to what Duley's saying.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's very distracting from from what we
Speaker 1: saw him there. Do you think do you think that
Speaker 1: Dez and Duley ever hung out after work? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I can't speak to that question. Do you
Speaker 1: think that they didn't? I don't know. Maybe they were
Speaker 1: at the club, I don't know. Do you think that
Speaker 1: Beasley and Terrence and Daz all, Yes, they all hung out.
Speaker 1: We know that got we got to see We got
Speaker 1: to see some pretty cool stuff on that show. But
Speaker 1: I have reliable information from people out there like we
Speaker 1: didn't see the half of it, you know. Oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's way more didn't make it into the show.
Speaker 1: That would have been fun to watch, right and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the way that's very telling again of the reason
Speaker 1: why it does isn't here. I'm glad that this happened
Speaker 1: yesterday when there really hasn't been any practices or anything
Speaker 1: going on, because if it would have happened like following
Speaker 1: a day where there's a lot a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: going on, I kind of feel bad about doing this show.
Speaker 1: And we're not really talking about what's going on here,
Speaker 1: but there really isn't now today it's about to crank
Speaker 1: out yea perfectly time. It's a Lucky White hit thing
Speaker 1: from last year right right before you get going. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of let the hat. The news that's off
Speaker 1: the field kind of happened, and you deal with that,
Speaker 1: and then let's get to the real football. So let's
Speaker 1: take our final break, and when we come back, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk some football and just kind of review what
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Speaker 1: So today it's gonna get very exciting. Like we said,
Speaker 1: the boys are throwing on the paths and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to see football. So before we get started, based
Speaker 1: on the two days that we got to watch UM
Speaker 1: practice and all that, what were some of the things
Speaker 1: that stood out to you? One of them I wanted
Speaker 1: to touch actually on Byron Jones and we talked about
Speaker 1: during the whole offseason how him moving to corner and
Speaker 1: that whole switch, how that was going to translate onto
Speaker 1: the field. So far, while you've seen at this point,
Speaker 1: have you liked the position move? No, I haven't seen anything. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm I have not seeing him do really anything that
Speaker 1: makes me one way or another. I think we'll find
Speaker 1: out stuff today. It's gonna be kind of tricky with
Speaker 1: him in the cornerbacks because the wide receiver positions one
Speaker 1: that's got so many question marks as well. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to see in preseason games because if these
Speaker 1: guys just dominate those three corners, just dominate, then everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna say receivers suck. You know, and if the receivers,
Speaker 1: if these receivers go out and do well, they're like
Speaker 1: man the corners. So that's kind of the nature of practice.
Speaker 1: And these two positions with so many question marks going
Speaker 1: against each other, it's gonna be kind of weird to
Speaker 1: see how it kind of shakes out. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: want to overreact either way. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we're in the business of entertainment. You want to entertain
Speaker 1: the listeners. But like, these two unpadded practices were boring
Speaker 1: a f like they just were honestly even you know,
Speaker 1: news like the Falcons I really did. I don't think
Speaker 1: they made it to the playoffs. I mean, like, actually, whatever,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick the Super Bowl champion right now,
Speaker 1: I'd probably pick the Falcons. Yeah. I was like that
Speaker 1: their roster yourselves, like, they get that loaded, but nine
Speaker 1: you mightn't know. They look good. Yeah, they got two
Speaker 1: running backs, four receivers. On the quarter we made we
Speaker 1: made a new high. That there anymore? Where they let
Speaker 1: him go after a six that game? Where is he?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Is he on the schedule? Number one?
Speaker 1: An I don't remember. Maybe Kansas City, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'll take my chances if he's
Speaker 1: on the schedule. On the schedule, I just hope he's
Speaker 1: not on the preseason. Yes, yes, right, yeah, as long
Speaker 1: as he's not having to face Jazz. I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about that. We made a new We made a
Speaker 1: new hire back in the spring, our new social media coordinator,
Speaker 1: Dana Burns. The Beast is what I'm going to start
Speaker 1: making a lot of great content. Burns all are following
Speaker 1: the social channels. But so she's over with me on
Speaker 1: the sideline yesterday during practice kind of She's like, so,
Speaker 1: is this what it's always like? Like? Is this practice?
Speaker 1: And like basically, I mean she was trying to be
Speaker 1: nice and diplomatic, and I was like, oh, Dana, no,
Speaker 1: like this is a walkthrough. Like even even the stuff
Speaker 1: that was full team like it's jog paced, no coverage,
Speaker 1: no hitting, obvious. I was just like, this is crapped,
Speaker 1: Like this is very boring and real practices are about
Speaker 1: to start and it's gonna get way better. And she
Speaker 1: basically was like, oh thank god. She's like I thought
Speaker 1: we were gonna be watching this for the next month.
Speaker 1: And I was like no, no, no, no no, no, all
Speaker 1: what you have to throw out is that she comes
Speaker 1: from college, like she was covering North Carolina, and in college,
Speaker 1: college practices are like they're they're hitting. Yeah, they're going
Speaker 1: at it. It's a lot different than the NFL. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's gonna be a lot better than. One
Speaker 1: of the things we can talk about a little bit
Speaker 1: is where certain guys lined up. And one of the
Speaker 1: combinations I noticed was Cole Beasley and table In Austin
Speaker 1: both lined up down the field and not in the slot.
Speaker 1: And Tabor and Austin, I mean, he's freaking fast and
Speaker 1: he's size. I mean at times he would get lost.
Speaker 1: I'm like, where is he? Oh? There, he is touched them.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what That's what the defense is. That's what
Speaker 1: they want, you know, those two little guys running around.
Speaker 1: And thankfully he looks like a wide receiver. There's no
Speaker 1: question of where he is and what he's gonna do.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be right. Could now define him as
Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. He was going to get touches
Speaker 1: behind the line of skirmish. I don't know why that works.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the NFL probably weighed in on this and said,
Speaker 1: all right, you're listing him as a wide receiver. What
Speaker 1: number is he moving to? Thirty four, thirty seven? What number? No,
Speaker 1: he's staying at ten. Well, then he's a receiver. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: thank you. I will say though, and you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: he's been going down the field a lot more than
Speaker 1: I would have thought. He's also, I mean, they've been
Speaker 1: given him reverses and jet sweeps and Scotland hands already taught. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm so torn because I know what Tavon Austin's career
Speaker 1: has been like to this point. I know, I mean,
Speaker 1: Sean McVay is a hell of an offensive coach. It
Speaker 1: looks like he couldn't really find but he was last year.
Speaker 1: Let's about my point being, it is fair to say
Speaker 1: he has not been this dynamic, all inclusive back to
Speaker 1: this point in his career. It's also fair to say
Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about what this could all mean for
Speaker 1: him if he stays healthy and he gets the touches
Speaker 1: that it looks like they're trying to give him. I
Speaker 1: really between returner, you know, reverses and jet sweeps and
Speaker 1: things like that, and then touches in the passing game,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't sound like a stretch for me to
Speaker 1: think that he could get ten to fifteen touches per
Speaker 1: game and really make a difference. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a pro bowler, but you add
Speaker 1: up all the yards that come with those types of touches.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, and I, you know, famous last words. We'll
Speaker 1: see what it looks like. Maybe I'll feel stupid in December,
Speaker 1: but I'm excited about what he might be able to do.
Speaker 1: He can make such an impact in Deonte Thompson can
Speaker 1: be the same way. He can make such an impact
Speaker 1: without even touching the ball, without even really the ball
Speaker 1: getting thrown to him. Because I promise you if you
Speaker 1: line him up and he just runs right past the
Speaker 1: corner and right past the safety and they're like whoa,
Speaker 1: what was that? Okay, and then it was just a
Speaker 1: four yard run to Zeke. But the next time that
Speaker 1: he lines up there, you're starting to think about it
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you can have an impact without
Speaker 1: even you know, not only if he lines up in
Speaker 1: the slot and sprints across the formation right before the snap.
Speaker 1: If there's nine guys in the box, maybe it's still
Speaker 1: going to Zeke, but somebody's gonna have to second guess
Speaker 1: what's going on. We made fun of the Lucky Whitehead
Speaker 1: jet sweep like it was a joke, but it worked,
Speaker 1: like he averaged nine yards for carry on. Those runs
Speaker 1: did work. And just think but Lucky never, except for
Speaker 1: one play against me, never went vertical. If you got
Speaker 1: to show that threat, you can, and that was really
Speaker 1: a trick play because he lined up in the backfield.
Speaker 1: But tell him the dancer, he would always dance around
Speaker 1: and not really go anywhere. Yeah, I mean, he was
Speaker 1: just an east west guy all the time. If you
Speaker 1: can mix in some north south, I mean, now you're
Speaker 1: all over the place, I think. I mean the only
Speaker 1: time is only time. Time will tell if it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: But it has the potential to be really nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: and again we're not not talking Pro Bowl numbers, but
Speaker 1: like three hundred rushing yards, three to five hundred receiving yards.
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you consider that he's probably
Speaker 1: your fourth option or whatever, I mean, that's big. That
Speaker 1: could be really big. Yeah, And I also like it
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. I think the way this
Speaker 1: team is built, if you've got Zeke that you you
Speaker 1: can pound having him coming around and teams just having
Speaker 1: to respect the fact that if he lines up, let's
Speaker 1: say he just lines up in the slot and he
Speaker 1: just comes around in the red zone, Now you have
Speaker 1: to that linebacker has to at least give credence to
Speaker 1: the fact that he could get the ball and he
Speaker 1: could be sprinting around the outside. That opens up some
Speaker 1: other opportunities up the middle. So I just think all
Speaker 1: those and then you got Dak obviously that can run
Speaker 1: as well. So between those three, running the ball in
Speaker 1: the red zone now creates this whole different set of parameters. Well,
Speaker 1: you talk about Rico, throw it up to Rico. I'll
Speaker 1: get a big fellow. I think Rico me that time. Okay,
Speaker 1: another thing I noticed real quick. You know how we
Speaker 1: we heard and saw Dak during the offseason practicing with
Speaker 1: some of the wide receivers throwing the ball. I think
Speaker 1: that really has been it was worth it. It's been
Speaker 1: noticeable as far as the things I've been watching compared
Speaker 1: to the other years. We see that not being a
Speaker 1: great passer during practice and now, in correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I mean his passes look pretty good and
Speaker 1: he's throwing it where he needs to go, and we
Speaker 1: see some of those uh down the field passes very well,
Speaker 1: so people asking Dak's improvement, I think we'll find out.
Speaker 1: We'll find out a lot today, in the next couple
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. I'm not ready to speak
Speaker 1: definitively on that because I am right now. I am.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt if if I had to right
Speaker 1: now pick a player and not a player that's already
Speaker 1: been great like Tying obviously, if I had to pick
Speaker 1: a player that had a subpar year last year, that
Speaker 1: I feel totally confident in the fact that he is
Speaker 1: going to be really, really good this year, it would
Speaker 1: be Dak. And the reason why I say that is
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the history of this player. You
Speaker 1: think about how he played at Mississippi State, and I
Speaker 1: think even though his numbers and we've heard his college
Speaker 1: coach and other people that evaluated him say this, his
Speaker 1: numbers may not have been as good the later he
Speaker 1: got in his career, but he was a better player.
Speaker 1: He was a better quarterback since he deal with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't think personally, I don't think last year was
Speaker 1: necessarily about him playing as poorly as a lot of
Speaker 1: people think. I think there was some moments. He was
Speaker 1: probably not as good as he should have been, but
Speaker 1: I do think that there were some areas where I
Speaker 1: felt like he was a little bit better than he
Speaker 1: was the year before. I think this year, he's coming
Speaker 1: into the year with the expectation, Look, I'm going out
Speaker 1: I'm running the offense. Where the offense says the ball
Speaker 1: should go is where I'm gonna get it. I'm going
Speaker 1: to deliver it on time, and I'm gonna expect the
Speaker 1: guy to make the catch. I think he's gonna be really,
Speaker 1: really good. I completely agree with you, but I think
Speaker 1: those are two different conversations. I think Dack's gonna bounce
Speaker 1: back in a big way. I won't be surprised if
Speaker 1: he's in the Pro Bowl. But that's gonna be playing
Speaker 1: his game right, leaving the offense, getting Zeke the ball,
Speaker 1: being a leader, minimizing the mistakes. That's all great. That's
Speaker 1: what made him great year one. I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: believe that he's gonna come out here and just be
Speaker 1: put it on a rope, like, just be the most.
Speaker 1: You know, Drew Brees completing seventy two percent of his passes,
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's his game I haven't said
Speaker 1: that was well, that was his game in year one.
Speaker 1: As far as accuracy, like he was hitting a large clip.
Speaker 1: He was a sixty three percent passer, which is good.
Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, I mean I'm a little higher than that.
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been any higher than sixty three or
Speaker 1: sixty four. I would look at that. We can talk
Speaker 1: about that, but again, Drew Brees literally completed seventy two
Speaker 1: percent of his pass like the ball goes wherever he
Speaker 1: wants it to. And I don't think that's Dak's game yet.
Speaker 1: That's also yeah, but that was also Drew Brees that
Speaker 1: we're also talking about Drew Brees. Now I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Drew Brees. The point is, yeah, but I gotta
Speaker 1: see it to believe that he has made that step.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good quarterback. I don't know that
Speaker 1: he's the guy that the ball goes wherever he wants
Speaker 1: it to. Maybe he will be. I gotta see it.
Speaker 1: But I guess that's the point that I'm making about
Speaker 1: what he's been so far, how he improves the kind
Speaker 1: of player he is to where I think he will.
Speaker 1: He will be the kind of guy that will progressively
Speaker 1: get better and better and better. I keep licking in
Speaker 1: his career. To Russell Wilson, I think it's not the
Speaker 1: time yet where they're ready to throw it all on him.
Speaker 1: He still has the running game. That's the best thing
Speaker 1: that they do is right, So continue to do that.
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna have moments this year when
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that progression and it's gonna keep going
Speaker 1: that way so that they got your five pound. Maybe
Speaker 1: they do the super Bowl and give him a boatload
Speaker 1: of money and then get rid of all the talent
Speaker 1: around him and say and then you go do it
Speaker 1: by yourself. Right, Well, we're gonna start that evaluation today,
Speaker 1: today's practice, and where you gonna finish this show. But
Speaker 1: before we go, Derek Bubble was the final answer on
Speaker 1: that pole. Final answer on the pole. We had Sean
Speaker 1: Lee with sixty nine percent of the vote. People believe
Speaker 1: him more in this instance than Dez Bryant at thirty
Speaker 1: one percent. Doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, to
Speaker 1: be fair, I agree by like fans are gonna side
Speaker 1: with the guy that's on the team. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: Their loyalty is to the cloth, it is not to
Speaker 1: the player. Every side has the truth to it, so anyways,
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