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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Monday, July.

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Speaker 1: Hope everybody had a phenomenal weekend. Mine was so action

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Speaker 1: packed that Sunday afternoon I laid down to start doing

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Speaker 1: some more football reading, previewing the upcoming season, and I

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Speaker 1: fell asleep and I woke up and it was two

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Speaker 1: hours later. Just the exhausting weekend. Yes, I'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the tennis tournament. If you guys follow me on the Graham,

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Speaker 1: you already know what happened. Uh, it's a sore subject,

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Speaker 1: but we will talk about it. Um. Obviously, we've got

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Speaker 1: a ton of sports news coming off the weekend. Team

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Speaker 1: USA losing to France. If you play it back, I

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Speaker 1: think two weeks ago, right after the loss too, I

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Speaker 1: think it was Australia. I said France sixteen and a half.

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Speaker 1: I bet it instantly. I told you guys to bet it.

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Speaker 1: France was getting sixteen and a half and they won

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Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Crazy was what we'll talk about at um.

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Speaker 1: Some NBA scuttle butt. It's draft week, so there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some Bradley Beal chatter. But the big news is

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Speaker 1: Jay Bella stops by. He does the draft for ESPN.

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Speaker 1: You guys are gonna love. J Billis came on and

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Speaker 1: I believe it was during the Final four, right before

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga Baylor, uh in the National Championship. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: the Monday of the game. I'm I'm not sure, but

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Speaker 1: J Billis is great. I've known him for a while.

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Speaker 1: I actually, way back, maybe thirteen years ago, I pitched

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Speaker 1: ESPN let me do a profile a J. Billis for

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Speaker 1: this website, the Big Lead that I worked for. And

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Speaker 1: so I went into New York City hung out with

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Speaker 1: Tournament and it was awesome. Uh, people noticing rafterree on

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Speaker 1: the street. Billis just fun, insightful watch video together. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he breaks down plays. Bill is a great guy. Um,

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Speaker 1: he thinks this is the best draft since the two

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Speaker 1: thousand three draft. I mean, I know it's loaded. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know it was that good. So we'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: But first, I just wanted to open a couple of things. Um.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I have to start with this team.

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Speaker 1: You say lost, because you remember how we had Joe

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Speaker 1: varden On from the Athletic He's the one who got

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Speaker 1: into it with Popovich. So he is in Japan covering

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Speaker 1: the Olympics and he's there with Team USA. After the game,

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Speaker 1: varden I guess either following players in the locker room

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Speaker 1: or overheard or whatever, but he said players were grumbling

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Speaker 1: about running the San Antonio offense. Yikes, that's after game one.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, this may have been I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say it's taken out of context. Vardon a good reporter,

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Speaker 1: he's covered the league for a while. Um, you have

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Speaker 1: to wonder given the meltdown, because again, Team USA led

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Speaker 1: almost throughout the game. They led by ten. At one point,

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Speaker 1: they led by seven with like three minutes left, four

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Speaker 1: minutes left. They look fine, they're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 1: And then of course, just choke City and France executes

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Speaker 1: better down the stretch. They ran the same inbounds played twice,

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Speaker 1: it resulting in threes um and bing bang boom. The

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Speaker 1: USA is now lost three of their last four games.

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Speaker 1: Team USA through their last fourth. That's gotta be the

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Speaker 1: worst stretch in Team USA basketball history, or one of them.

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Speaker 1: The game win streak at the Olympics snapped their first

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Speaker 1: Olympic loss since two thousand and four. And what hurts

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Speaker 1: is you know, Damian Lillard was pretty awful and got

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Speaker 1: pulled down the stretch. He had two turnovers, A shot poorly,

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Speaker 1: who their best player was, folks. Drew Holiday was on

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Speaker 1: Saturday and playing the game Sunday morning. What like? Seriously,

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Speaker 1: Drew Holiday at twelve points in the fourth quarter, it

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Speaker 1: was huge, um, But obviously listen, um, when when you

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Speaker 1: free agent. By the way, it's so funny because I

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he was talking about Gobert, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's the best player on

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Speaker 1: the USA, but just a devastating loss. UM. We touched

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the line for USA. I ran on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I would like to back up the brinks on USA.

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Speaker 1: Popovitch really going hard, and I ran to prove a point.

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Speaker 1: Hey we're not dead, we're not done. Um. And then

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Speaker 1: of group play, all right. Besides team USA basketball, I

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Speaker 1: have to confess. I'm sorry I did not do my

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Speaker 1: You know, I played volleyball Sunday morning. I could play

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Speaker 1: like the USA's number one volleyball player test a positive

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Speaker 1: for COVID, even like working for three years towards this

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Speaker 1: their match. A gats again Italy. So but I just listen. Um.

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Speaker 1: The tennis tournament chewed up my Saturday. I'll in a second,

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Speaker 1: I believe that, and I haven't done all the numbers

424
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Speaker 1: on this is just more to more anecdote at all.

425
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: But I think the success rate of of NBA draft

426
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Speaker 1: picks is the highest of any draft and major sports

427
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Speaker 1: that you know. And I may have to leave hockey

428
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Speaker 1: out of that because I you know, I follow it,

429
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: but I don't know as much about it. But you know,

430
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: you look at football, they're looking at these guys for

431
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: four and five years and they missed swing and missed

432
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: like crazy on quarterbacks and all all different kind of things,

433
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: you know. And and the NBA people having a year

434
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Speaker 1: to look at some of these prospects year and a

435
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Speaker 1: half and uh, and for the most part, they nail. It.

436
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: Are mistakes, of course, mistakes are made here and there,

437
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: but that's just the nature of sports. What do you

438
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Speaker 1: make of this whole? The G League players that are

439
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: near the top, Jalen Green cominga, Um, you know, I

440
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: didn't watch a ton of the G League myself, but

441
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: you can easily go on YouTube and watch the highlights.

442
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: The competition level does look a bit above Division One.

443
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Speaker 1: I would not say that it's the level of like

444
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Speaker 1: Luca Dodges playing grown men in Europe, but how do

445
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Speaker 1: you you know, say, hey, Kate Cunningham toward the big twelve,

446
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: but Ill and Green was beating a former and future

447
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: pros in the G League. Yeah, that's a good point.

448
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it is better than

449
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: college overall because of the quality of competition and the

450
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Speaker 1: fact that you've got, you know, elite professional athletes that

451
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: are knocking on the NBA door. Um, you know. As

452
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: to as to how it compares to Europe, I've really

453
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: really thought about that one. But it's the different the

454
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Speaker 1: one thing that that we kind of have to wrap

455
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Speaker 1: our heads around. It's been an adjustment for me, especially.

456
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Speaker 1: The first adjustment was years ago and high school players

457
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Speaker 1: started coming in. You know, you immediately said, well, they're

458
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Speaker 1: not ready, and it turned out a lot of more,

459
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: not all of more, but a lot of more. And

460
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: so yeah, you had to get used to that that

461
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Speaker 1: odd idea, you know. And the first thing you hear

462
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: people say, like a guy goes and I might not

463
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Speaker 1: be drafted high. They'll say, hey, he's gonna be in

464
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: the G League next year, as if that's some negative negative.

465
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: It's just a question of where you want to do.

466
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Speaker 1: You're developing, and players can develop faster in the G

467
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Speaker 1: League than they can in college. In a lot of instances.

468
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: It's just we don't see it because we're watching the

469
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Speaker 1: college game. We're watching what's readily available. So I think

470
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Speaker 1: Green will probably there's a there's a very good chance

471
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Speaker 1: he goes number two. He was ranked the Headikaide County

472
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Speaker 1: Ammon High School. Uh not much, not by much, but

473
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Speaker 1: he was. And comingo is really intriguing because he's so

474
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: athletic and can guard multiple spots and you know, his

475
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: potential is is really high. Um, you know, but he

476
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Speaker 1: could go number eight, he can go number five. I

477
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what's going to happen with them, but

478
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Speaker 1: most people haven't seen him because they don't watch the

479
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Speaker 1: G League. But um, they better get used to it,

480
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna be more really good players to go

481
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Speaker 1: into it from here. Um. I saw Trey Young in

482
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Speaker 1: the playoffs become a guy that I personally did not

483
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Speaker 1: think he could be coming out of Oklahoma. I did.

484
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Speaker 1: He's dropping forty eight points on the Bucks in Game one,

485
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Speaker 1: nothing like that. And we saw John Moran exploding he

486
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: had forty plus UM against the Jazz. I just these

487
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Speaker 1: guys who can handle the ball and just get to

488
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Speaker 1: the rim and or at will. It feels that Jalen

489
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Green is kind of sort of in that mold. But

490
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Speaker 1: again I have maybe I haven't seen enough of him.

491
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Speaker 1: Is there anyone else in this draft that he has

492
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Speaker 1: that kind of upside where it's like, oh, uh, you know,

493
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: wings are nice, but guards can get buckets as well

494
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Speaker 1: as anybody. Oh yeah, there are a lot of guys. Um.

495
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Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Stuggs is one of them from Zaga. Uh.

496
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Speaker 1: In other years he would be considered the topic. Not

497
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Speaker 1: in every other year, but in some other years he

498
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Speaker 1: would be. And you know James book Night can get buckets,

499
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: can Thomas of l s U Moses Moody of Arkansas

500
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: there and that that shows the strength of the draft

501
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: is you know, you could wind up in the middle

502
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Speaker 1: of the first round and get a guy that you're

503
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Speaker 1: gonna know how come meeting to go on the top

504
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Speaker 1: six or seven, um, And then you know you've got

505
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Speaker 1: some of these wings, whether it's Keian Johnson who's a

506
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Speaker 1: great defender, Scottie Barnes who can play point at six nine,

507
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, he could go number four. I don't know

508
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Speaker 1: exactly where he's gonna go. And and to your point

509
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Speaker 1: of about guards, Davion Mitchell. I think is a top

510
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Speaker 1: five player in this draft. Other people have at seven

511
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: or eight or whatever, but that's not worth worth arguing

512
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: too much about. But he's not going to fail in

513
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Speaker 1: the n b A. He's going to be a really

514
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: good player just because of his will and his explosiveness

515
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: as the ability to depend on the ball. He's the

516
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Speaker 1: best on ball defender in the draft. I do wonder

517
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Speaker 1: about the situation you mentioned, Uh, Scotty Barnes. We just

518
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: saw Ben Simmons and I'm a big fan of Ben

519
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Simmons work flame out of the playoffs because he didn't

520
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: want to shoot the basketball. And you know, Scotty Barnes

521
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: has had his offensive issues. Not a really good shooter

522
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: I think from deep um, great at everything else. He's

523
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: got the wingspan, which you love. But will there be

524
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Speaker 1: some reluctance um to go high on Barnes because he's

525
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: not a shooter in a league that is very offensive

526
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: heavy right now, Well, it depends on what else is available,

527
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: you know, if you're taking him to be a defender, facilitator, um,

528
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a Scottie Pippen type player. I mean,

529
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Speaker 1: I don't think people thought Scottie Pippen was a great

530
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Speaker 1: shooter when he got drafted. Um. And that's not to

531
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Speaker 1: say that that Scottie Barnes doesn't have a long way

532
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Speaker 1: to go. He does. He's nineteen. Uh, and I do

533
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Speaker 1: think he and he can work on it and get

534
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: a lot better. I don't ever see him being a

535
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, primary scorer on a team, because that's not

536
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: his personality. Um, but I do think, I mean, I

537
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: already think he's I was surprised that Simmons didn't become

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: a better shooter, uh, to the point where where it

539
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: seems like he's got the yips now he's afraid to shoot.

540
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't see that coming. Uh. You know, it's funny.

541
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: I've heard people lately say, oh, yeah, I knew that.

542
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, how can he didn't say it at

543
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: the time, Like nobody said that at the time. Um,

544
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: And he was the number one overall pick. Uh. And

545
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: I still think he's worthy of that because of all

546
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: the other things he does. You're you know, your your question,

547
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: you're talking more about championship caliber play. But he's still

548
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: an all star and you know, get to the playoffs.

549
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: Guy M. Barns is just different in that regard um.

550
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: But but he's got another guy with the high ceiling.

551
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: What a great young man and a great teammate. He's

552
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: not gonna he's not going to be a pain in

553
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: the ass and and you know, and he's not going

554
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: to demand special treatment or anything like that. He's not

555
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: that type of Uh. Let's go to a kind of

556
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: a controversial player, Jalen Johnson, the kid out of Duke. UM.

557
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: I personally like the skill set, but as everybody points out,

558
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: nobody quits on Duke and coach k Uh. He bounced

559
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: around the multiple high schools. How do you handicap a

560
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: guy like that? I don't know if you've interviewed him

561
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: or not, but uh, you know, what what do you

562
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: make of Jillen Johnson? Does he need the right cultural

563
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: fit like a Spurs organization, whereas if he goes to

564
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, the Rockets or what have you, it

565
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: could be a disaster. Yeah, I'm not worried about the

566
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: fit um as much as as him. Um. I think

567
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: he's a top I agree with you. I think he's

568
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: a top ten talent and uh and I've got him

569
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: ranked to the top ten as a player. Now, was

570
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: I concerned about the fact that he, you know, sort

571
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Speaker 1: of quit in the middle of the season or just

572
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. Um, yeah, that bothered me.

573
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Speaker 1: But I wasn't like a disqualifying thing. You know, it

574
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: was a pandemic year. Duke was really struggling. He was struggling,

575
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: so I kind of give him a little bit of

576
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: slack there. But I and some of these players, Jason,

577
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, they have anxiety issues. I mean, it was

578
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: difficult last year because all these guys are you know,

579
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: they were quarantined the whole year, and you know, people

580
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: want to say they got to do what they love

581
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: and all that nonsense. They stayed at hotel the whole year.

582
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: It sucked. It sucked. And you know, I was quarantined

583
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: at the UH for a few days at the Mohican

584
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Sun Bubble at the start of the year, and I

585
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: wanted to hop out the window. I wanted no part

586
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: of that. And you know, he had food delivered to

587
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: your room and and all that. You're treated well, but

588
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: it was it was awful. And that was just one weekend.

589
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: That was one week you know, and and and these

590
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: guys were doing it the whole year. So I'm not

591
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: trying to make excuses for Johnson. I mean, I would

592
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: have counseled that he didn't quit. Uh, and my advice,

593
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: but nobody asked me. My advice would have been, Uh,

594
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: you can explain not playing well through a pandemic year.

595
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: You cannot. You will have a harder time you're explaining

596
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: packing up and walking out. And that's what he's dealing with,

597
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: you know. And and to your point, like I get

598
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: the four high schools thing, but nobody had a problem

599
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: with that when he was being recruited, you know, everybody

600
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: at the time. It's just sort of it's just sort

601
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: of when you pile this other thing on, we're starting

602
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: to ask all these other questions and they're fair, questions

603
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: are not fair. But but there are a whole bunch

604
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: of guys that are going to multiple high schools now

605
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: that we're talking about being great guys, and Johnson's having

606
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: to deal with these issues, and you know, part of

607
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: it's self inflicted, but he's and part of it was unfair. Um,

608
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: some of the stuff you had to deal with right

609
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: when he walked, it was a bit unfair, I felt.

610
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: But but that's part of the gig, part of the deal. Um,

611
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 1: but his game, Um, he's really talented and he can

612
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: he's great in transition. He's a really good passer. Um.

613
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, he rebounds his position and grab and go. Um.

614
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: I still think he needs to be a tougher defender,

615
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: and he needs to be able to shoot the ball better.

616
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot it great shoots it. Okay, I didn't

617
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: shoot a grain and he needs to needs to work

618
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: on that. But you know, to our earlier discussion, he's

619
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Speaker 1: nineteen and uh, and he's gonna get better. But at

620
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: some point I look at it a little bit like uh,

621
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: like Michael Porter Jr. Even though his issue was back injury.

622
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: At some point, whether it's twelve, Um, you're gonna go.

623
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Speaker 1: I don't care why you quit. He's too good to

624
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: turn down here. Yeah, that's gonna be That's going to

625
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Davian Mitchell earlier, Baylor guard. He's twenty two

630
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Speaker 1: years old. The history of twenty two year olds in

631
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: the lottery is not pretty. I don't have it in

632
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: front of me. But you just look at the names

633
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: and it's guys who haven't really delivered. Chris Duarte out

634
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: of Oregon is another guy. I like him a lot.

635
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: He looks ready made to play. You know, I'm sure

636
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: you talked to teams about this, but why is there

637
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: such an aversion to twenty two or twenty four year

638
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: old guys in the lottery. Is it simply because they're

639
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: already already made product and maybe they've already been maxed

640
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: out and there's no seal thing we're as a dealing

641
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: green or you know, z your Williams from Stanford only

642
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: played thirteen games, we don't know how good he can be. Like,

643
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: why is there like an agism going on in the

644
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: in the lottery? I think it's it's your first point

645
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: that um that their ceiling isn't a tie, that they've

646
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: established essentially who they are, not that they can't get better,

647
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: or I think your term was maxed out. I mean, no,

648
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm a lot older than you, but when I was

649
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: coming out of college, everybody was a senior and everybody

650
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: was twenty two and nobody, you know, and you were

651
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: considered a rookie that had a lot to learn and

652
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: and and you know, had a lot of developing to do,

653
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: so you could be a you know, a quality player

654
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: in the league. All that stuff. Um that's not discussed

655
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: now now it's it's sort of you know, what value

656
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: is there beyond what we see, like what potential do

657
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: you have? And mistakes are made there too. Um but

658
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: but I had noticed or or hadn't internalized sort of

659
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three year old issue in the lottery.

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Um but and and how far that is back? But

661
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell is one of those guys like I just don't

662
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: see him failing. He's not gonna fails. He's too he's

663
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: relentless and uh and he really wants it and he's

664
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: so talented on defense and you know his explosion to

665
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: the rim when he blows by you, he gets to

666
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: the rim quicker than a shot blocker could get there

667
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: to wipe it away. Um. So I I feel very

668
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: comfortable with him in the top five and or Golden

669
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: State drafted at number seven. The tough decision. The tough

670
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: decision would be if Golden State had him and Scotty

671
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Barnes both on the board, what do you do with that?

672
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: Who knows. They may trade it to get an older player,

673
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: but um uh, you know I would look first at Mitchell.

674
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: So you mentioned when you were coming out. You know,

675
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: everybody was there three or four years. They were mature.

676
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: And you know what they say about college is like

677
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: when you go into the real world to get a job,

678
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh you started first of all, you got to do

679
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: a college. Then you started it and you graduated. Boy,

680
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's gonna stick with it and

681
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: he's willing to go the long distance. Like, we want

682
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: this guy on our team. It's a little different now

683
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: in the in the NBA draft because like people played

684
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: literally fifteen to seventeen games and that's it. We don't

685
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: really know that much mentally about some of these young guys.

686
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: It feels like the risk is just so great Jade,

687
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: does it not? Yeah? But but the players are more

688
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: mature now. I mean I was talking to somebody recently.

689
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: I think we're on a conference call with Mike Schmidtz,

690
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: who's the best talent evaluator I know, And we were

691
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: talking about how how is Brendan sir? Also we're talking

692
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: about how few players we really talk about having issues now,

693
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: like character issues or all, you know, the buzzword, character issues.

694
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: There are so few players that that you're talking about

695
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: that that you're not saying, what a great kid, what

696
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: a really good young man. You know, back when guys

697
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: stuck around for four years, it wasn't because we were

698
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: good guys. It was because there was no other choice

699
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: and there was nowhere else to go. There was no

700
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: money available. You're not going to go overseas back then.

701
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: So back then you had guys that were drafted at

702
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: twenty two they had no maturity at all, and not

703
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: not all yet some that had very little maturity and

704
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: there were a huge pain in the ass um. But today,

705
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: I think the players are more focused on this is

706
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: a career from a younger age and uh and I

707
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: think they're more prepared to take the step than than

708
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: in the past. Um, that's not true of everybody, but

709
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: generally across the board, you're seeing more a more professional

710
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: approach to their to their career now than ever. And

711
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: you know, they take better care of their bodies. Their

712
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: nutrition is better now. That's ratchet up in college period.

713
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: They learn more in college and they used to do

714
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: on that front um because because college is pronoun it's

715
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: so professional and it's approach so the players. So I

716
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: don't see I think the risk is you know, you

717
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to miss on somebody and and you

718
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: know haven't done your due diligence and you find out

719
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: later on that the guy was a complete zero. Um

720
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: that that can happen, or didn't have the mental make

721
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: to be successful when the worker stuff like that. That

722
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: can happen. Um. But really, all you're all I believe

723
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: they're doing is trying to make the best decision of

724
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: is this guy better than that guy? Like, like, we

725
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: got a list of five guys here, you know who's

726
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: number one on the list. Like, drafting shouldn't be that

727
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: hard once you get to the draft. You got a

728
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: list of guys, and you need to be disciplined if

729
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: you've made your decisions going down that list. The only

730
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: problem they see sometimes is you'll see somebody on your

731
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: list on well, how come they didn't he didn't get taken? Alright,

732
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, now, um, what are we using? What? Yeah?

733
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: What what do we need to know that other people

734
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: seem to know right now? And that's where the you know,

735
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: people get scared a little bit in the draft. They're

736
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: going well, let let's not take the chance if maybe

737
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: somebody else does know something, if they passed up on

738
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: this guy. Let's wrap up with um, you know a

739
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: question about workouts. So I'm out here in l A

740
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: and I have met enough guys that I've been able

741
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: to go into a couple of workouts and you go

742
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: and see like a Window Carter working out for teams

743
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my gosh, this guy's ridiculous. And

744
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: then you go back and watch some of the games

745
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: on YouTube and it doesn't totally match up with the workout. Um.

746
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Another guy, Jalen Brown, was out here and it was

747
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: just like, this guy's unbelievable, Oh my gosh. And then

748
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: you go and look and he was like he was

749
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: alrighty cow. A guy that has killed in workouts right

750
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: now is James book Knight, the kid from Yukon. By

751
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: all accounts, he had one of the best shooting workouts ever.

752
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: And then you go look and you're like, oh, ye

753
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: from three and it takes a lot of bad shots.

754
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't on a great team. Jay, How

755
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: do you decipher between a guy who looks incredible in

756
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: a workout and a guy who you know on the court,

757
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: maybe didn't deliver like you did in a workout. How

758
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: do you determine between the two. Well, that's a really

759
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: good point because you can get fooled by workouts. And

760
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: I've been fooled in the past by them, um and

761
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: and I'll probably be fooled again in the future. Uh.

762
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: One of the you know, it's as you know, it's

763
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: five on five game, and your productivity is a better

764
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: uh indicator of your ability level in a five on

765
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: five game. But for book Night, who you're right, did

766
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: not shoot the best percentage, especially in catching shoot situations.

767
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: But he is a bucket getter and he can go,

768
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: he can go get his own um and he shoots.

769
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: He shoots it very well off the dribble. So that

770
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: was an issue, you know, and it's been brought up

771
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: with him, like you don't. You haven't shot a grade

772
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: off you know, off catch and shoes situation. So when

773
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: you see him in a workout going he can shoot it,

774
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: that's not an issue. It's not like he's cleaning it

775
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: off the rim. There's nothing wrong there. And as he

776
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: continues to get older and better, he's going to continue

777
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to improve in that uh, improving a shot prep and

778
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: all those things, and all those things can be improved,

779
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: but he's got the ability level now. So seeing that

780
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: that's really helpful. Now if you're if you're you know,

781
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: looking at somebody in a workout and you get I'll

782
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: give you a story, little story about a workout. So

783
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Chip England, uh, who's with the San Antonio Spurs and

784
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: I think the best shooting coach in the game or whatever. Yeah,

785
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: he gets the credit for that, and then should But

786
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: so Chip was a teammate of mine and in college

787
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: where we're great friends, and and there's not a better

788
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: guy on the plane at the Chip. So when he

789
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: advised Corey mcghetty when he came out of college in

790
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I think it was thousand whatever. And if you remember

791
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Corey mcghetty, just a superior athlete at you know, a

792
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: body like Adonis, and but he wasn't the most skilled

793
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: player after his freshman year. So Chip told them, look,

794
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: if you get into a workout and and you know

795
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: you're you get on a bad shooting streak or you

796
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: know you're making some mistakes and you don't feel comfortable,

797
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: pause the workout for a second. He goes, leave your

798
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: gym bag in front of where the scouts are sitting

799
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: over in the over in the stands, and go over

800
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: right in front of them and take your shirt off,

801
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: and and then and then go back. Then go back,

802
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: and he goes. Nobody's gonna care that you missed a

803
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: couple of shots. But it goes to the money ball

804
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: example of you know, if you see I'm sure you

805
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: read that book. I mean, if you see a guy

806
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: hit a five foot home run, you know you're gonna

807
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: be You're gonna be influenced by that rather than how

808
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: many times did did he get on base or things

809
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: like that, and uh, and so you have to I

810
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: think there's an art to it about being disciplined for

811
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: for uh, you know, draft decision makers, you have to

812
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: you have to look at everything and not get seduced

813
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: by athleticism or seduced by a workout, or not to

814
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: overly worry about, well, the guy didn't have the best year,

815
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: but man, he's got every tool, but hey, he didn't

816
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: do you know, he didn't have a great year. Um,

817
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're there are a bunch of different ways

818
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: to screw this draft up, and you can kind of

819
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: take your pick on him and I love the Tyreek

820
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Evans story. He was in the Steph Curry workout and

821
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: the Kings had him play one on one and Tyreek

822
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Evans destroyed Steph Curry and the Kings were like, we

823
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: got our guy. That's Tyreek Evans is our guy. He

824
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: wins Rookie of the Year. But obviously, like that's a

825
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: terrible matchup for Curry, right, I mean, he's not a

826
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: one on one guy. He's not gonna defend Tyreek Evans.

827
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: And we know how that story ended. But do you

828
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: would you recommend a lot of these guys play one

829
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: on one in workouts or just there's no real upside

830
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: if you get beat or what have you. I don't know,

831
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: that's the good that's a good question. I mean, you know,

832
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: playing one on one is not going to be career determinants.

833
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: It's it's just gonna be where you get drafted. So

834
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: if you're worried about you know, I mean, maybe maybe

835
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is still shedding a tier overgoing seven versus

836
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: number three. I don't think he's to be worried about it.

837
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: But um, but you know, your long term career is

838
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: what's important. So you know, I'm I'm kind of on

839
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the fence about what to do at the combine. Um,

840
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, so you go have a great day at

841
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: the combine. Like Donte d Vincenzo has a great day

842
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to combine, he's getting advice to shut it down. He's screwed.

843
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm gonna play and plays day number two

844
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: and plays even better and got taken in the top

845
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: twenty or whenever he was taken. And uh, and this

846
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Speaker 1: year you have, you know, you have players that played

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Speaker 1: on day two. I think the kids from Kentucky, right Jackson,

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Speaker 1: They don't know whether I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Jackson played at all. I was there, but I might

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Speaker 1: have play attention to that. But the guy I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about most of his bones Highland of VCU. So

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Speaker 1: really good first day. And uh, and you're thinking, wow,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him again tomorrow. And and

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Speaker 1: you know, you're standing there on the set with with

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Speaker 1: our crew and and uh and Lofonso Ellis and I

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Speaker 1: are going you think he shows up tomorrow, you think

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Speaker 1: he plays and and we're like, probably not, but but

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Speaker 1: you know, so we can as old men sit. They're going, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want to see him play. Um, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: show your competitor like that craft. But he probably made

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Speaker 1: the right decision as far as getting drafted, because you know,

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Speaker 1: playing or not playing is not going to be career

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Speaker 1: determinative for him, and it's just a question of does

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Speaker 1: it help his draft selection status guaranteed money? All right,

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Speaker 1: j billis the draft Thursday night? Right, Thursday night ESPN.

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Speaker 1: You fired up or I'm fired No, I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about the draft. I'm just a little bit concerned about

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Speaker 1: you know, five hours. I'm gonna have to manage my

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Speaker 1: fluid in takes. I don't have to run off the

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Speaker 1: set to go to take a leak. You know that

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Speaker 1: that as I get older, that's becoming more and more

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Speaker 1: obviously jadwift and getting up there. Yeah, I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: little older than I remember watching you and Duke dominate

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Speaker 1: the never Nervous Purvose Final four. Right, that was eight six,

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Speaker 1: Actually I got dominated. I remember watching that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was not a relieving fan. Yeah. Anyways, all right,

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Speaker 1: Jay billis thanks a lot, Van enjoy the week and

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Speaker 1: we'll see at the draft. Thanks for having me. Good

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Speaker 1: to see it.