WEBVTT - Out Of Context: Kevin Hart and Charlamagne Tha God

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do a countdown check the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything good, Kevin Set one, Sex, five, ten nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Hart, You listen. Before I do these out of

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<v Speaker 1>context conversations, I like to set my intention. So my

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<v Speaker 1>intention for this combo is to properly shine the light

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<v Speaker 1>on the historic career of Kevin Hart, the entertainer, the mogul.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put who you are and what you

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<v Speaker 1>have done in its proper context for people.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Now, you once said in an interview, you said

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<v Speaker 1>life is a book, and you determine how it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you title this chapter of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding? I would say understanding forty five years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the purpose, I understand the value, I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>The real reward.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, yeah, this is about this is about clarity.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about having a bigger and better vision based

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<v Speaker 2>off of my now understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty years ago, when you was twenty five, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you define success?

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<v Speaker 3>What did it look like to you success at twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just when you were twenty five, Yeah, what did

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<v Speaker 1>success look like to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Success at twenty five was.

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<v Speaker 2>No free weekends because you were booked, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>comedy clubs or colleges, the stand up calendar was full.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thought was comedy, right, and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>know the opportunities for acting that came and sprinkled in

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<v Speaker 2>here and there. It was cool moments, but the stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and being a headliner in state end up, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>was bigger and better than that. So how do I

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<v Speaker 2>get a full calendar?

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<v Speaker 1>How has achieving the success you've achieved reshaped your definition

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<v Speaker 1>of what you thought success was twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's completely different. You know the success success

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<v Speaker 3>is like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's layered because you think it's financial, and then after

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<v Speaker 2>that you think it's material once you get financial, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it makes a weird shift where it turns into

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<v Speaker 2>like happy, right, And what level of success do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to reach for you to understand that happy is

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<v Speaker 2>always it should always be the first thing. And how

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<v Speaker 2>do you get that? How do you get to that?

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<v Speaker 2>The success is like it's a journey. It's a journey

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<v Speaker 2>that you embark on and go through all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to get there and go, I was I was this then?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was I was happy and I was vibrant

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<v Speaker 2>and that was fun. And as you obtain more your workload,

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<v Speaker 2>your stress, you want your need, Like everything starts to

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<v Speaker 2>come into play a little differently, So it boils down

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<v Speaker 2>to how do you get to the role of happy

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding the value of a circle, your friends, your family,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Like that's that's where your thought process starts

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<v Speaker 2>to drive more towards as you get older. So the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing is happiness. Man, at the end of the day, like, are.

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<v Speaker 3>You doing what you love?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you absolutely find joy and that thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you're dedicating yourself to on a day to day basis,

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<v Speaker 2>And does it make you better? Does it bring the

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<v Speaker 2>best out of you? Does it bring the worst out

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<v Speaker 2>of you? Like you gotta you gotta start to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So my joy now comes in helping and creating opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>to see other people get to the place or.

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<v Speaker 3>To help position of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Correctly to do the thing that they want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>or to find the happiness and a thing that they

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<v Speaker 2>are thriving towards.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my new that's my new happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you have you always been happy through through every

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<v Speaker 1>stage of this business and this career of yours? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you always been happy because you always present very happy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a I'm not an unhappy person, right like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a good person, good energy behind me, But

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<v Speaker 2>my patience isn't you know, my patient. My patience isn't

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<v Speaker 2>as long as it should be. My patience is extremely thin,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, the the more work you take on,

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<v Speaker 2>the more you're dealing with it on day to day.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I've definitely been spread thin. And in

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<v Speaker 2>being spread thin, you because of your your your training,

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<v Speaker 2>you got one track that you're on in the the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing is this everything else in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of has to be pushed to the side. So

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<v Speaker 2>my happiness at one point was coming on just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to achieve the goals. And I think during that time

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<v Speaker 2>I probably overlooked a lot of things that were real

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<v Speaker 2>definitions of true joy and true happiness. But because I

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<v Speaker 2>had the tunnel vision, I was focused on this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I don't think I've never not

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<v Speaker 2>been happy. I think that i've I think I've definitely

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<v Speaker 2>been absent minded at times.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people realize that you always haven't had success,

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<v Speaker 1>right like when you think about twenty years ago, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a shot in the industry, you had to sitcom

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<v Speaker 1>on ABC, the Big House, major motion picture Soul Plane,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was once said that you already had those

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<v Speaker 1>deals when you came to LA, and no one had

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of a comedian who came to LA and

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<v Speaker 1>his first year in LA had all of that. People

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of that before you are since you. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question is, how did you achieve all of that? keV?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's nuts. It's just it's insane to assume

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody came and was given anything, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>for those people to really follow my career and then no,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't. I don't think there's bigger definitions of

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<v Speaker 2>hardship and work and success and takeaway. Right, So, early

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<v Speaker 2>stages of my career, doing the comedy festival, just for

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<v Speaker 2>last comedy festival, Oh my god, went there, killed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, this is this is it. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>everything's going to come. Getting a deal at that point

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<v Speaker 2>in time was a big deal. I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>like two hundred thousand dollars. I got a dealtval Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a deal coming out of the festival because

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<v Speaker 2>basically I met with studios, Networks, et cetera, and they

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<v Speaker 2>said we're gonna do a development deal with you.

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<v Speaker 1>People forgot about those.

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<v Speaker 2>Development deals don't exist. No more talent development deals. This

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<v Speaker 2>is when comedians and the prime of their career got

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities coming out of these comedy festivals. And the Just

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<v Speaker 2>for Last Festival was like the biggest, the new faces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a showcase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so agents, studios, et cetera were all there.

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<v Speaker 3>I get this deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it might have been with NBC, NBC or

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<v Speaker 2>ABC at the time, and you know, this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the money, life change. I can do some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for my family. Whatever money goes, nothing comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of the deal. Nothing. Well that was short lived. Later

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<v Speaker 2>I get the opportunity to develop a series, create a series.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Big House. And the opportunity came for

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<v Speaker 2>me learning how people were developing, writing and pitching. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I can go back and the same

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<v Speaker 2>people I met with with my deal, I can start

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<v Speaker 2>pitching too. I want to pitch shows or pitch ideas

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<v Speaker 2>and doing that, we pitched a Big House. Big House

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<v Speaker 2>gets picked up. Finally I got a sitcom. This is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be great. We shoot, we shoot the Big House,

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<v Speaker 2>We shoot the pilot. Pilot gets picked up. Time for

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<v Speaker 2>me to go to New York do the upfronts announce it.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I take the stage to announce my show is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on ABC and this is the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever. They pulled me back and they said they're

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<v Speaker 2>deciding not to pick up your show. Wow, get right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh are you serious? I'm here like I flew the

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<v Speaker 2>cast in we all this is exciting time. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not. They're not gonna do it. Can't stand over

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<v Speaker 2>there that fast. It's over.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta go home. I'm on a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>No show. I get a call probably six months later,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna pick it up mid season. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the joy. Finally it came around. They air one episode,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe two episodes, not even that many, maybe three,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe two or three. Pulled it, canceled it.

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<v Speaker 2>No sitcom. Okay shit, I'm back back on the grid,

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<v Speaker 2>back on the grind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the world of auditioning.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing's coming out of ith. Soul Playing came. Holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>got another opportunity, booked the audition. Tons of people audition

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<v Speaker 2>with Soul Plan. Jessice Terrero was like, that's my guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I want him.

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<v Speaker 3>Soul Plane his bootleg, biggest boot leg ever.

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<v Speaker 2>My success came from the bootleg and give soul playing

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<v Speaker 2>because people started to remember me and my success came

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<v Speaker 2>from Paper Soldiers and that underground movie and in the

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<v Speaker 2>bootleg circuit up so the memorable, the memorable side of understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the guy from Oh shit, that's the comedian from.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started doing comedy clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, all right, fuck the acting stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna go focus on the comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went, I just did a comedy grind like

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little Wayne Mixtape level comedy ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I went. I went. I remember so when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so adamant about the comedy clubs. Stand up

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<v Speaker 2>any stage, any room, New York. Get the people, get

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<v Speaker 2>the fans, Go get the emails, go back, tell them

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming back to the city again.

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<v Speaker 3>City Chicago's Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then, you name it. I did that ship for

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<v Speaker 2>about I want to say I probably put in like

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<v Speaker 2>five years of non stop comedy club work, and over

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<v Speaker 2>that five years gathered the audience, gathered the nice amount

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<v Speaker 2>of emails.

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<v Speaker 3>This is when.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak speed by that because you were in these comedy clubs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember this. You were you were getting everybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>Email email and you had a newsletter that you yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would, I would. I literally got Dang Cook is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first people to like really embrace his

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<v Speaker 2>fans in the development of the relationship with the fans, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang Cook was one of the early early people that

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<v Speaker 2>I heard talk about this. And at this time, Dang

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<v Speaker 2>Cook was like, boom, I mean HEU. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get emails and I got to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the people. So I would do these newsletters for the

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<v Speaker 2>cities and I would, I would send them. I was

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<v Speaker 2>sent them out as a blast Like MySpace had a

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<v Speaker 2>feature at the time where you could basically like geotag

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming to Cincinnati, and on your midspace you can

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<v Speaker 2>look for the people in Cincinnati. And I would personally

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<v Speaker 2>send out messages I'm coming to the Cincinnati I'm performing,

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<v Speaker 2>Come see me perform. I mean you're copying, pasting the

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<v Speaker 2>same messages over and over again. Some people came, some

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<v Speaker 2>people didn't. But at the end of the shows, I

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<v Speaker 2>would know who came, and I would know the result

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<v Speaker 2>of me individually telling people to come out because I

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<v Speaker 2>would be able to match the emails addresses help with

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<v Speaker 2>things that I saw on the MySpace paids, So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, between these things, if I stay true to it,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll work. So me and my guys, the Plastic Cupboys,

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<v Speaker 2>we would go to the city land, go to a mall,

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<v Speaker 2>pass out flyers, tell people about the show, get emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we would go to the show perform as people

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<v Speaker 2>were walking out getting emails. I used to have cards

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<v Speaker 2>and I would have cards on the table. People would

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<v Speaker 2>fill out the cards. I would take them. So then

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the weekend, everybody that came, hey guys,

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<v Speaker 2>when I come back, I'm gonna make sure you all

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<v Speaker 2>know thanks for coming out. I built the rapport for

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<v Speaker 2>five years maybe more. I was very consistent with that

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<v Speaker 2>raport colleges. I was performing at showcases for colleges and

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<v Speaker 2>gathering that personnel. I didn't give a fuck where people were.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was people there, I was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>and I was going to personally make sure you knew

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<v Speaker 2>who I was and that I knew who you were.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I did Shacks All Star Comedy Jam that

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<v Speaker 2>that dropped. After I did Grown Little Man and I

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<v Speaker 2>was about to do seriously funny, I forgot the order

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But I was doing these comedy specials, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was for Comedy Central. It's gonna be my specials,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. It was like a little bit of knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a little bit of steam off

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>The comedy club is getting a little full.

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<v Speaker 2>After the Shacks All Star Comedy Jam, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, but that shit, that shit hit harder than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I did Seriously Funny, so people were like,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa Shacks Star Star Comedy Jam? And then I did

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<v Speaker 2>different material, seriously funny, Okay, after seriously funny. Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>when it was it was okay, shit, this guy's like

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<v Speaker 2>the real deal. So it went from comedy clubs to

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<v Speaker 2>theaters real fast. I mean, right now, you're witnessing it

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt Rife, Like I remember that, like Matt Rife.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weird thing that happened where Matt was in

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<v Speaker 2>comedy clubs and he was doing his like little things,

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<v Speaker 2>and the TikTok thing hit for him, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Matt Rife is doing shows. It arenas Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Rife sold out and he's It happened so fucking fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So when that happened, I said, well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to run away from the thing that I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell people, I am now going to

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<v Speaker 2>the theaters, right, the theaters. I'm gonna be at the theater,

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<v Speaker 2>not the comedy club. Well, theater's selling out so fucking fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I don't have to do the email ship

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<v Speaker 2>no more.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to turn the social media too.

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<v Speaker 2>This when social media just started, right, this is when

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<v Speaker 2>all of the ship look out of the time was

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<v Speaker 2>getting past. Oh man, the tickets are selling, so we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't have to do this like I

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<v Speaker 2>once did. Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter is now so now Twitter I learned.

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<v Speaker 2>What that is, and I'm like, oh wait, I can

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<v Speaker 2>talk directly to my like to the people that follow me.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to the world of emails. I'm on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my act name. Make sure y'all follow me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the people that I gathered from all of

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<v Speaker 2>these cities. Name of city during that time, Detroit name

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<v Speaker 2>A fuck, I don't give it. Every city. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care if it's an A market, B market, C market.

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<v Speaker 2>I went everywhere. Once I said follow me on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well I'm out the gate. I had like

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred some thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you were the first person we knew what

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<v Speaker 1>a million followers. I was like, oh shit, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a million followers.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I gotta talk to them. So now the

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<v Speaker 2>emails that I was sending that people were on privy

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<v Speaker 2>to are now a person of person conversations. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>shows are getting bigger, the theaters are getting bigger. We're

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<v Speaker 2>adding shows. We're going from two thousand seaters to five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand seaters. And just like that, as a headliner, I changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I changed the way I looked at how I developed comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I need to have a system in place

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<v Speaker 2>that allows me to stay on the road and come

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<v Speaker 2>off the road. I shot two specials as The Grown

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<v Speaker 2>Little Man that is seriously funny. The Shocks All Star

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<v Speaker 2>thing was like a favor. I was like, Shacks said, keV,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do this thing. Jeff Clanning Kingo's my partner, especially,

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<v Speaker 2>was a favor. All these things hit. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well, I can't fuck this up. So now

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm going to go and I'll do a tour.

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<v Speaker 2>My tour should always last a year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll end my tour with the filming of a

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<v Speaker 2>comedy special and then I'll develop another set through the

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<v Speaker 2>course of a year and a half to maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>close to two. So I had an own season offseason,

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<v Speaker 2>but it always gave a two year gap in between

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<v Speaker 2>stand up, so I never oversaturated myself in the market.

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<v Speaker 2>So toil this date, there's always a two year window

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<v Speaker 2>in between my specials. But during that off year, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>developing the new material. So when I come back and

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<v Speaker 2>announce a tour, while I'm coming back with new material

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<v Speaker 2>in the new road, and by the time I filmed

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<v Speaker 2>the next special, It'll be two years past before the

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<v Speaker 2>last one step repeats that repeat. So I built the

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<v Speaker 2>process based off of hard work, understanding, and commitment, and

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<v Speaker 2>that commitment came from the failed opportunities in Hollywood. They

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<v Speaker 2>threw my TV show back at me, the movies that

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<v Speaker 2>I had the opportunities to start and did not work

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<v Speaker 2>in a successful template of working in the business. Paper

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<v Speaker 2>Soldiers wasn't a box office success, it wasn't a theater released,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a straight to DVD. Soul Plain was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a box office success, got bootleg basically another

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<v Speaker 2>straight to DVD if you ask me so, because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the rest part from you talking about we got two,

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<v Speaker 2>you got something like a business, and you got thirty five. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So these are all of mine, These are my big opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, none of this shit was huge successful.

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<v Speaker 2>This was all These are all culture culture like cultural

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<v Speaker 2>fucking pieces of IP that we grabbed on two and

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<v Speaker 2>supported and loved. So because of that, the fan base

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<v Speaker 2>got better with stand up. But I went back to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up. I was like, I'm out this la shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here waiting by the phone. I'm out. I

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<v Speaker 2>went back and hustled stand up and was just in

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<v Speaker 2>the grind of stand up specials until.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Packer came to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This was after laughing my pants is I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe my third or fourth special And

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<v Speaker 2>Will came over and think, like a man, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and nine, I don't know, maybe third

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<v Speaker 2>or fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm glad you're having this conversation when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about all of these opportunities you had, I see

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<v Speaker 1>you doing that for other black creatives. Now, so when

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Paul had the opportunity he puts you in something

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<v Speaker 1>names had the opportunity he put you in something. Will Packer,

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<v Speaker 1>he puts you something, Shack, he put you in something.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing the same exact thing for people. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The realization though, man, is like the people

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<v Speaker 2>are putting you in something because they have something to

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<v Speaker 2>put you in. Right right, We're in a time now

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<v Speaker 2>where it changes because the expectation of what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do doesn't match the energy of what you're actually doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you know that line has blurred a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Like Shack called me, Jeff called me. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it just so happened that that was the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were doing a thing at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>It matched up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to create more things that can hopefully be

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>For someone else. Now, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it. I don't have a strong grasp

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<v Speaker 2>on the business to go. This is gonna launch you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can be a star. Get ready, here it come.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know, like, hey, man, I got some dope.

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<v Speaker 2>IP I want to create some movies or mine. Some aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, here's opportunities. Here's a blender of opportunities that

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<v Speaker 2>I can put people in and continue it and grow

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<v Speaker 2>within it. I mean, when you look at just what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing at Heartbeat in the scripted and unscripted space.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all based off of the new version of our

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<v Speaker 2>generation acting, comedians, writers, directors, etc. I'm saying, if I

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<v Speaker 2>can do three to four projects a year and we

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<v Speaker 2>got new faces in them, I'm doing my part. If

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<v Speaker 2>I can say, hey, man, we're gonna shoot forty comedy

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<v Speaker 2>specials and we're gonna have those comedy specials on our

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<v Speaker 2>fast channel and on this distribution platform, I'm not only

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<v Speaker 2>giving them a stage, but I'm also giving them visibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing my part, right Like, at this point, what

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<v Speaker 2>is my part?

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<v Speaker 3>Where is my.

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<v Speaker 2>Value best served? And I feel like it's best served

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<v Speaker 2>in creating the opportunities for others. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody pops off of something that I put to the table, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the dopest story ever. To just be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the early stages of the next person's

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<v Speaker 2>the next person's journey, I would be fucking beyond blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it feel knowing that you have achieved so

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<v Speaker 1>much success that people think you're an industry plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the biggest compliment ever, right you when

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<v Speaker 2>you hear things like that. You just you got to

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<v Speaker 2>give a nod to common sense versus lack thereof. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a conversation with my daughter one day and

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<v Speaker 2>she was asking a question and like debating off of

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<v Speaker 2>the hype emthetical of if something was real versus not,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you know, everything is researchable if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to know it, if people really care, you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to know things, it's very easy to go

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<v Speaker 2>do some research. And actually beyond easy, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>dumb proof today, like Google has. It's so dumb proof

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<v Speaker 2>that you can actually type in the dumbest version of

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<v Speaker 2>a question and Google will correct your question and give

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<v Speaker 2>you the right side of your question with the options

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<v Speaker 2>for you to go find the thing that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you really give a shit, you can go

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<v Speaker 3>and see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the industry plant conversation is what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? Like when you when you really

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<v Speaker 2>break that down, it means.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that's why I want you to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a story, And I'm glad it's the story, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the stories out there people want to know. It means

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody puts you in this position. Yeah, and press

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<v Speaker 1>the button yeah, and that's the god.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I say, what does that mean? Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we talking about? So if that's the case of success,

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<v Speaker 2>is that easy? How many different versions of that would

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<v Speaker 2>you see to day? And by the way, wouldn't those

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<v Speaker 2>be the stories that were highlighting because they're all false?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if that's the case, I mean, some things get

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<v Speaker 2>so ridiculous that catch on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's astronomically insane to process. No, I could give two

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<v Speaker 2>ships like I mean, that's why you don't hear me

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<v Speaker 2>address shit or fire bag of shit. It's like you

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<v Speaker 2>got time to address and talk and come back at

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<v Speaker 2>people when you have time. I don't. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the time like I and not because yeah, not because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an asshole, but I'm actually I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the time. I don't have the time to give

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<v Speaker 2>a rebubble that or the energy to give that any

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<v Speaker 2>type of outside thought. And like I said, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>if it's something that people are really curious about or

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<v Speaker 2>people really wanted to know, it's great researching.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a list of things that are taking up

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<v Speaker 1>your time. Correct me if any of these things have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>One people think you're in the Illuminati, because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>just a comedian, you're a businessman. Yeah, let's just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to these things. Heartbeat Productions, Lol Network, We're serious, Grand

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Carmino Tequila, SPH Productions, which is our audience company, Fabletics

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Active Where, Heavenly Heart, which is a health and wellness

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>brand named after your daughter, Harthouse, your plant based food chain.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>You partnered with brands like Chase Bank, Nike. I was

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<v Speaker 1>told you invested in draft Kings and you're invested in

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Hydro which is a rowing machine company. There are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of comedians who are just comedians. You are a businessman

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<v Speaker 1>who are what contributed to that business actimen.

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<v Speaker 2>Early stages of growth Jeff Clan again, Jeff Clan again.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, is an asset that sparked my

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneur side of thinking and just from him saying or suggesting,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, instead of us going this way, why don't

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 2>we do this ourselves? So taking the money from tour

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<v Speaker 2>and using that money to fund I stand up Special

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<v Speaker 2>and then taking my stand up Special and distributing it

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<v Speaker 2>through a AMC. And when we did that the big win.

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<v Speaker 2>It just made me understand investment and return right or

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<v Speaker 2>all out the return on your investment. We took seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty grand shot our comedy special, released it theatrically.

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<v Speaker 2>It did like nine million theatrically. Theaters take their cut.

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<v Speaker 2>After the theaters take their cut, we get back. I pie.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked away with like close to two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half three million dollars. Right, Oh shit, seven point fifty

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<v Speaker 2>turned into three.

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<v Speaker 3>That's investing. So like, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you grow businesses in a manner where you

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>can invest and then ultimately see a return. Well, you

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>got to have businesses, You have to have ideas. More importantly,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you got to own shit. I started to understand the

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>importance of owning shit. I realized that how many people

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>that do the same thing that I do that don't

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>own shit. There's no shot to any of them. But

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>once we're done, right, once we once we say good night,

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and we're done doing the job that we've chosen to

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 2>do forever, you got to look back. And when you

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 2>look back, what do you see? Early on, I saw

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>that studios had these amazing catalogs. These catalogs are so dope,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>they're great, And the value of these catalogs for studios

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 2>is significant because it's the talent attached to them. Allow

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>some studios to leverage that talent that IP to go

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>out get more money so that they can go out

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>shoot develop more IP of the same ultimately to build

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that catalog so that that catalog is a definition of

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>representation of their value. Their value continues to grow and

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>jump based off of star power and work for hires

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>that are fined with receiving the dollar at the early

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>stage but not being a part of it at the back.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 2>All right, So how do I fix that or be

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>different in that regard? Well, I'm gonna own the one

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>thing that I can at the early stage that I control.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>I own.

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I own my live entertainment business for myself. If I

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 2>decide to do comedy, I own this entity of comedy.

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>That entity shoots a comedy special, I'm gonna own it,

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm gonna license it, step repeat, Okay, Well

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I can do this with other IP. I got to

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>create the companies Heartbeat, laugh out Loud, Okay, the studios

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>are partners, but make sure that we own a piece

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of the company with the studio.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, we can't do that.

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Why not have we ever asked? Have we ever asked

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>for an unconventional deal. If we do ask for that

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>unconventional deal, let's see what the return is. Let's see

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 2>if they jump up and say okay, because you're a

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>good partner. We actually had some good partnerships in the

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 2>early stages that weren't afraid to take those jumps. Lionsgate

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was a great partner with laugh out Loud. We did

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>great business. Lionsgate then allowed me to buy lef out

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Loud back and full when they didn't want it, I

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 2>took laugh out Loud merged it with Heartbeat.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, I got one big entity. Now wow, So

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>now let me.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Start to push things under the machine. I want to

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>push and shovel anything I do under the machine. It

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>all has to come through Heartbeat, and through that, Let's

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>see how much I can own versus what I can so. Now,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>any deal, any unconventional deal, it has to come through

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>my pipeline and the relationships of others. Now, respect the pipeline.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>So let me hire the people. Let me get the

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>right team, right execs, right presidents, right coos, CFOs, heads

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of SVP's EPs. Well, now I got the money to

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>pay them, because I'm taking the money from all his

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>lives entertainment, and I'm just going to bring it over here.

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>So until I get a return, I'm a funding machine,

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>because that's an investment. I'm investing in this personnel, I'm

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>investing in these works for hire. I'm investing in the

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>idea of this company.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 1>When you were in these comedy clubs, did you ever

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>think stand up comedy would lead you to these opportunities

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that have created all these other companies and got you

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>at a network of four hundred and fifty million dollars.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>No, but that's the fucked up part, right like you,

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>stand up comedy is the gateway into everything, and entertainment,

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 2>entertainment in general, is the gateway into everything. And you

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have to do it right. You don't have to

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>knock it out the park and fucking walk away with

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the biggest bang, with the biggest win. The closer you

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>get is best and better for the people that are

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna come and do the same things behind you. So

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of peoples that didn't necessarily do

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it right, but they cracked the door enough for me

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to go through that door and get a little further

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>than what they did. Understand that the likeness that I

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>had can bring the value of private equity partners or

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>investors or companies or bandwidth. I bring value to different operations,

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>so in return, you're giving me something for my value.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>So stand up comedy was the asset and still is

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the asset that acts as the gold nugget to fucking

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>greatness because the meetings that you're able to obtain, the

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>rooms that you're now able to be in, is all

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.479
<v Speaker 2>based off of Man, that got so funny and so cool.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>So don't downplay the fun an early thing. The early

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>thing is the most valuable thing. Oh man, I want

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 2>you to go see that guy. He was funny and shit.

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Then after the show it was nice. You gotta meet Doug.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Doug works over at Amazon. He does X, Y and Z.

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's a partnership here, man, but

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you should meet him. A lot of people don't have time.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean no fucking weird weird ass dude named Doug.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Well why not? Doug just so happens to

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>be in front of content and creative. So meeting Doug,

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you done put yourself in a situation to get some

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 2>knowledge and information, and you tell Doug I'm gonna come back,

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>we should meet again, speak.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>To that more. Does your humility play a role in

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>how far you've been able to go?

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I did not. I did not put myself on

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>a on this crazy pedestal of expectation of how you

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>should perceive me. Right, I think really having an even

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>kill and understanding of like level set at all times.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Like businesses, business partnerships are partnerships, opportunities opportunity And if

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you shake your hand, it's two sides to a handshake.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So if you shake my hand and I'm shakier's back,

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that means that we should both get something from whatever

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>we're deciding to do together. It shouldn't just be about me,

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>so it shouldn't just be about you. And I think

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>to date, my relationships with my studio partners, the representations

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, I've never tried to kill them.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I've never came in and front loaded any of my deals.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And this is my partner's are universal to Netflix, Apple, Amazon,

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can go warners, I can go down

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the list of them all.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 3>What do you need for this.

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>To be a win for you? All right? So I'm

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna do this on my side. I'll take this and

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I'll play with you on the back half. So in success,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>we all have success. And as a partner throughout the years, well,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>my work has been consistent because they value me as

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a guy that's coming to the table at all times

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 2>with the best interests of this and myself. I've never

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>been to give me all mine now and y'all figure

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>it out. If you lose, I should lose too. And

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's a real like, that's a real thought

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that I have in any in any aspect right. And

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the best partnerships that I have, like in Fabletics, Fathletics,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and I decided to do business because I was with

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Nike and I get with great partners. We developed the

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:31.239
<v Speaker 2>sneakers together, we were doing great activations. I mean some

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 2>of the best relationships came out of Nike of just

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>personnel and understanding that business. I had an opportunity of

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Fathletics to help grow a brand and be responsible for

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>men's They said, Kevin, we don't want you to come

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>in and just like do it and just be a phase.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>We want you to develop it with us.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 3>We want you to be a real partner. We want

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 3>you to be creative.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 2>So I had an opportunity to go and create a

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>man's line with a brand that didn't have it yet,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>be responsible for elevating, amplifying. I'm the business now that

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't exist that does well, I'm gonna do that because

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>if I do it right, all of my partnerships that

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I do Afterwards, I now got a resume with a receipt.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>A receipt says Kevin Hart can do this for a company,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>for a brand, for a entity. Kevin Hart did this.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>So I took that ran with that. And now when

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 2>you talk about the other partnerships that have come to

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the table, well, here's what I am as an incubator,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I am as an amplifier. And the words

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>that I'm able to use now, I didn't know these

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>fucking words.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, how much do sales shoot up when you're

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>putting juice skin coys and not in the fabletics?

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>H you know, it's crazy? Like that was such a genuine,

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>authentic moment. So they had just they had just sent me,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>uh like we got we we have new product and

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>always get stuff first. And Kyle was joking around like

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the sleepover man, you know we gonna be late. I

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to expect, so I still had the box.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I had the box with me with the fact that

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff. So just in genuine authentic moment during

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>that loud stream, I'm like, I got you a gift, Kai,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't have a gift.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I just gave you one of my sweatsuits, me the

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 3>same size.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>You want me to believe that you had Drew Sky size.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the second one, me and Kai.

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 3>That first one.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I just gave Kai the gift like as a sweatsuit.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>So Kai, we put along. We're just playing around. It

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:34.479
<v Speaker 2>was my sweatsuit coming back. I go, oh shit, that's

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>dope as fuck.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It's dope because it's just good energy and it's a

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>real reaction.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna come back.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do the same thing because the Kai and

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>the juice give it all. Well, it's really about me

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>and powering them. I went to their world. I didn't

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>change that world to fit me. I want nothing to

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>do with your world.

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to fucking be.

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>A part of your world by showing how dope you are.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't come there as Kevin Hart to start.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about all my shit I got going on.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I came in and said, well, what does it mean

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>when you do all this shit?

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>What we do?

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>What I gotta do? Money train, hype train? What?

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>The business has ignored the fact that these guys are

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the new business?

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>What it fits you though? Because your brand is fun,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>his brand is fun. It's easy.

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>It's an easy, seamless fit. But what I'm trying my

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>best to do is show show the business, the studio business,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that the opportunities for them that we should be thinking

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>about exists where they're already succeeding. You.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't try to break and create a new model.

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Try to figure out what they want to do and say, okay,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>well how can I help you? How going to be.

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Accessible for you and to you?

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>So for Kyle Drewski just because of the love the

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 2>sweatsuits and all this is funny. Well, I didn't ask

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Kyle what you make from this and how you get

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>your money?

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I want none of it, dude.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I liked it. I came and fucked with y'all. Did

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you have some success?

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>More people came agree with your ship, Jusky. I love

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that people know how funny you are. Man, you too,

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna fuck with y'all more, We're gonna figure it out.

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>You was EP and the show for Juski before this.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to develop the Juice shovel Juski for

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>a minute.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Still are still are like Juicy.

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I think Jew is a star. I think Kai is

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a star. I think you know when you look at

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Mr Beese and what he's doing, like you're looking at

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>people that are creative minds and have figured out another

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>route to economic success. They have They have found a

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 2>way to say I'm going here, and I'm going here.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Mister Beaese's whole business is not just content but product commerce.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, are you fucking kidding me?

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about a talent that has figured out how

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>to bring commerce to his audience through a platform. That

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>guy's doing the right. Guess what I'm gonna do. Guess

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do. Hey Jimmy, I need to talk

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to you. I don't want to control. I want to

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>know and I want to learn, but more poorly, I

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 2>want to partner.

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 3>How do we sit? How do we talk?

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey Kyle, Hey Juice, how do we sit? How do

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>we talk? Collaboration is the best form of success. You

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 2>can't collaborate. It's a it's a real lonely world, man,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>And that whole fathletics thing and just me doing started

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 2>off as just a fucking real, easy, genuine thing because

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I had it juice skin Kai came back.

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey man, we're going to throw these on again.

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Got you?

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 3>keV is love. It's nothing forced.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 2>It was a it was a thing that worked because

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of the authenticity and the brand.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Of course was happy.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But as a guy that controls the brand and operates

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 2>on this behalf, people associate me with the product seamlessly,

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so it's never forced.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to I want to talk to you

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>about fatherhood. Right as a father, I'm sure your family

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>motivates you to keep working and do more, but you

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>also want to prioritize being present. So how often do

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you face the conflict of choosing between work and family

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and how do you maintain the balance?

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot better. I've got a lot better, man.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I think the engine in the early stages is an

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 2>engine dedicated to I'm doing all this so that they

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have to, right Like, I'm thousand miles per hour

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>because I want to have this or that they can

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>have this or that we can do this. But then

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you start to realize that that time can't get that

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>time back, and you start to miss real shit, real

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 2>shit the matters. Kids get older, they drop some shit

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>on you about what they wish you were at that

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 2>you wasn't, but it's okay, and you want to make

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>those changes. So I think because I've had such an

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>open relationship with my kids, a comfortable one where we

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>can talk and be transparent, I've been able to adjust

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in real time and make things better. So I think

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>today I'm way more present than what I was in

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine, two thousand and eight, twenty twelve.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a good dad, Like I'm I'm, I'm there,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and I make sure I'm there cause you I'm breaking

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 2>the ground in what fatherhood looks like from my family,

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 2>like me and my brother, our dad wasn't theirs, so

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it was it was cool, but it was hit and

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>miss in and out. So me and my brother prioritize

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>how active we are with those kids, like it takes

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the village. Like literally, my brother is the best asset

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 2>that I have outside of my wife. Like, hey man,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go on a road and I'm gonna be

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 2>going for set time.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Go and make sure the kids are good.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Pop in with them for like four days, give them

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>some activities, some stuff to do. I know they got classes,

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. You're you're. We have a very nice

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>rapport of how we operate, and the kids love it.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>They they see the efforts. They respect it. I think

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.359
<v Speaker 2>they also see how I kill myself to get back

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 2>to them, you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>out on tour buses, I'm back and forth, back and forth,

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>laying two days. All right, I leave one day, come

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>back to night. Like it's it's a lot, but it's

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>worth it.

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>What is what is losing? Both your parents taught you

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>about parently, it's very.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Important to to understand, like this ship is a gift.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>This this this game of life is a luxury and

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you you don't have to be a part of that

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 2>luxury loan.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Scary thing about death is the next day.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Life still goes on right, Like you lose people that

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>you love, but the next day you still have to operate.

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>You still have to figure out this thing. You still

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>have to pay the bill, you still have to do

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the work. You still have to figure out. You still

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 2>have to raise the kids. You still have to like

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't stop because of your moment of mourn. So

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>what I what I definitely have been an example of

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>is strength. You know, when my mom and my dad passed,

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I think my kids seeing how I handled both of

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it from a realistic standpoint, is it's something that was

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:17.919
<v Speaker 2>a value to them, right because rather than feeling the

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 2>death at the saddest level, I celebrated the life at

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the highest and that was a I think that was

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>a thing that that they both kind of my two

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 2>older kids, my younger ones were a little my dad

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 2>passed away, it was sad, but my two older ones

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like understood my way of thinking and my

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>reason for why. And you know, I was like, It's

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 2>okay to be sad, but I'm making a conscious choice

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in this moment to just think about the celebration, the

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>life that they lived, what they did, the great things,

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 2>And it was more about the storytelling on that side

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 2>of it than it was about the crime.

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>How did you have to adjust your last stand up?

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I told you I saw you with the garden

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>when you it was what became reality check, And I

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>told you, I feel like that was your best at right,

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and you had a lot of you know material in

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>there about your father being sick. But by the time

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the special came out, passed had passed. So how did

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to adjust?

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean I went your you put it in the

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 2>past tense, right, like, you know, when my dad was

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.479
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the biggest memories was my dad

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>would or you know, I mean, it's crazy that my

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 2>dad's not here because these thoughts like that I'm having

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 2>are all based from my dad. Like everything. I kind

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 2>of just put it in in the past moment and

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the set became more of a dedication to my father

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 2>than than what it was in the in the beginning stages.

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>But my dad passed away in the middle of that tour,

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>know that tour, so I had to finish that set. Actually,

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's crazy. Where were we at he just

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>passed away? He had just passed away. We were doing

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the Uh I was doing the set when I'm thinking

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 2>about it, like, I'm like, yeah, my dad, and it

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 2>hit me on stage. Damn, that's the first time I

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 2>felt that, Okay, that's it's in there. At some point

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna come out. Like I've just told you. My

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>way of handling it was celebrating the life or whatever.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>And during that set, that's why I felt like a

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 2>little I felt the thing, that emotional thing and talking

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>about him as if he were still here and knowing

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't. And at the end of that show,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I told the audience my dad passed away. Wow. And

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that's where it hit me.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I little.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I had to get off stage at I mean, grief

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>is okay. And I'm not saying you don't have it

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>when you shouldn't have it. I'm saying it hit me

0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 2>in that moment. And to date, I don't think that

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I've I still probably haven't grieved correctly over my mom

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>like I think I I accepted it. I knew what

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 2>it was because I knew it was coming. But I've

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>never had like a thing like a spiral fallout of thing.

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, they say staying busy is a response to trauma.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So you stay busy so you don't have to the

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the boy dealing with what you probably should be dealing with.

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>So that's kids, I'm probably dealing with a lot.

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I don't know that.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm not going to fight that because I don't

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>know that. But if there was something to deal with,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 2>it could step from that. But I'm also addicted to work,

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>like that's a work as a drug for me.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember you tweeting back in twenty thirteen, you said,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>if you are afraid of failure, you don't deserve to

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>be successful. I think he was quoting Charles Barkley or somebody.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>When I hear you say you're addicted to work, and

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we watch it, we watch you, Are you afraid to fail?

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>No? No, because I fail all the time.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>But at this point, I mean, what what is failure?

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, right now I can go belly up the money,

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the money could go away whatever, Like I'm never not

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be okay.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 3>I know how to get to the money.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>My confidence on my ability to get to the money, I'm.

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Going to be okay.

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Like there's like in the beginning stages of life, the hood,

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, like there's a there's a real fear of uh,

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where I ain't gonna be able to

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 2>fuck you, I don't know, Like there's there's a real

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 2>fear there because you're at the bottom right when you've

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 2>been when you've been to the top, And is it

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>really a fair at that point, like, Okay, you're saying

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I had it all and I lost it, so now

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>my journey is getting some of it back.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Like, it's not a fear, that's it's a moment.

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And in business and entrepreneurship, things don't always go the

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 2>way you want. So if an investment didn't work and

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I over committed, or if this went belly up and

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have like, it's that stuff is very much possible.

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I think for me, the lack of success or moment

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>where unsuccess like presents itself, that's dope because there's so

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>much information in that. There's so much information you gained

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 2>from the thing that didn't work, the thing that flopped,

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the thing that fucking was supposed to Like, there's information

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>value in that. So it's about how you It's about

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>how you take it. I don't. I don't take it.

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't take it with it like a negative grain

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of salt. I'm I'm pretty well with receiving that. I

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 2>just think I need to be committed to something me

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 2>to make my life feel like it has a driving

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>source of energy that won't die.

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I like this because it keeps you from being petty.

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>But you're still a cancer KIV. Yeah, I'm a cancer

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 1>is a cancer. We're all busy people. We still find

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>he's different. If you find a little time to be

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>petty with the people that throw shots, that you different.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 1>You don't never what's the most pettiest thing you've thought

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:25.879
<v Speaker 1>about doing.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I've done it, just people would never know, like like

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 2>people would never know it like I don't. It's like,

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, people like the public here, Okay, this is

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 2>something I said. I was talking to somebody man, And

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's really not hard if you have if

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>you have real problems with people, and your problems are

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like serious, it's not hard to ever get to a

0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>person and really like address the problem.

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>The problems that people have of me, they aren't my problems.

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>So the idea of being petty or going back and forth,

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>it's so beneath me because I don't have the problem,

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like if I engage, it makes it

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 2>look like I got a problem. I don't.

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>All Well, things get taken out of context too, though,

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>because even when you think about Cat Williams on Club Sha,

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people thought you threw shots at him first,

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and he was replying.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Back there's I think there's probably one moment where I've

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:44.760
<v Speaker 2>actually talked about Kat publicly, and this was when Timmy

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and this was like we were we were promoting night

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>School and Tiffany was affected by some of the things

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>he said, and it was more of a like support

0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 2>for her in that moment and like some shots at him.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you regret that?

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I shouldn't even God, I should never address him

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 2>at all. I don't have to, Like why what will

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it do for me? What will I gain?

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 3>There's no gain.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 2>So I look at everything from a business and economic standpoint,

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like if I'm investing in something, well, what is my return?

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 2>What's the return on my investment? What's the return on

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 2>my time? Was the return on my energy? Was the

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>return on my investment? So that investment of self words

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>dialogue brings me what what? What? What? And if I

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.439
<v Speaker 2>can't answer that question, or if people around me can't

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 2>answer that question, then it doesn't get an in an

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 2>inklet of energy. So it has nothing to do with

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>people feeling like they're above, people feeling like they're better. Oh,

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 2>it has to do with a strong understanding of you

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and like yourself level of awareness, like I'm i can

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>check all these boxes, but to some they want to

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 2>take it or misconstrued or twist it as it's not.

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not my problem, it doesn't become my problem.

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that a part of acting my age, acting my

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>agees is so dope and you can have I know

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you said fifteen, you have more of you want you

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>can do'n like twenty thirty.

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I want make sure you get your shit.

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh great, I'll say.

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>The better side of acting my age and the understanding

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 2>of what this special is is like, it's so dope

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>to understand what the idea of old age is. It

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 2>should be older, older, should be wiser, it should mean

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 2>like fucking wisdom. It's life lived. The older you get

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 2>your representation of life lived. And if you're lucky enough

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to make it to fifty sixty seventy, that means you

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.879
<v Speaker 2>were one of the few fortunate people and not only

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 2>made it to the other side of life, but got

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:22.720
<v Speaker 2>to see other lives make it there as well. Grandkids, kids,

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>have kids, homes, families, whatever it is, neighborhoods change, fucking

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the inclusion of the merge between. If you're a person

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 2>that got to witness and was around and I remember

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 2>when man, what's better? I just worked with Samuel Jackson

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and dopes thinking about Samuel Jackson when we do a

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 2>fight night as every day, Sam had a story about

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 2>the shit that happened during that time because he was there.

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 2>He was there. Oh man, right here, y'all see this

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 2>right here. This wasn't this spot. This used to be

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 2>raise and what they would do here? You just sitting

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 2>listen the joy that Sam found and telling us the

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 2>moments of life that he lived that none of us

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 2>could fucking relate to because.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 3>None of us were around.

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Sam was the one lucky, the one lucky individual from

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 2>this time that can still talk about it. Some other

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 2>people might not be here, other friends from that time

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 2>may be there, may not. But he was so happy

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 2>at telling the stories. That's joy. That's fucking great. So

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the age forty five, I'm embracing the concept of getting

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 2>older and being the thing that you're becoming instead of

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 2>running away from it. Everybody's running this way. Everybody's trying

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 2>to get younger, pulling the skin back and taking this

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 2>all for doing that.

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>But what does aging look like in a realm where

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the goal is to remain relevant? That's why everybody's doing

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 1>this skin stuff, the tucks and whatever else the Olympic.

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't I don't know what other people are

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 2>going through, So I would never speak on.

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:16.879
<v Speaker 3>Another person's behalf. I would say that.

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 2>If more, if we saw more people celebrate the cool

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 2>shit about ages ages, I think that aging would be

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 2>highlighted differently, right, I think the conversations attached to it

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:38.359
<v Speaker 2>or one side that you hear, we only hear one

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 2>side of it. And when you're talking about saying relevant,

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's all subjective. You just said you had

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>L L L here.

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Elle's dropping the album been doing it for forty years.

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Is he dropping the album to be relevant or is

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:00.879
<v Speaker 2>he dropping an album because he's like, hey man, I'm

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 2>mis rapping. I'm about to just rap. Yeah, I want

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.479
<v Speaker 2>to rap and just rap. Show my fuckers I still

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 2>can rap.

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Lebron Lebron twenty one years in?

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Is he playing because he's trying to be still relevant?

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Or does he just love the game of basketball? Like what,

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 2>it's subjective as as to how you want to view it,

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, there was a there

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:29.240
<v Speaker 2>was a time where before all the ship had happened,

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 2>when I was in Uh, I was in Montreal and

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Bill Cosby was performing, sitting on the stool performance. It's like,

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you still love comedy, granted, like I said, it's before

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 2>all the shit. It's like if you love something and

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you just want.

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 4>To be old and do the thing you love cool,

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 4>It's I think it's subjective as to how you view it,

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 4>and I think you can find so much joy and

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 4>happy and being what you are, doing what you love

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 4>and getting older while doing it and embracing the younger

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 4>environment of people that are doing it.

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, absolutely embracing the younger generation. Like I have nothing

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 2>but love for this dope ass new wave of comedic

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 2>talent that we're witnessing today.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Like there's no competition.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 2>You home to me, like there's no competition, Like when

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 2>when I see the Drew Skis, the KUIs, the the

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Desi Banks, the b Simons, the just hilarious, uh, the

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 2>pretty v fuck Man, Carlos eighty five, all these guys

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and there's so many to name. Matt Rife, who.

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I just talked about as well.

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can I can go down a crazy list. Uh,

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Mulaney who's doing great, Ryan Davis another funny one like

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 2>there's so many funny people out out there, and the

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>world of stand up comedy has gotten so big Andrew crushing.

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 2>It's dope as fuck to watch people crush. It's dope

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.879
<v Speaker 2>as fuck to watch people find success, and guess what,

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it does nothing to mine.

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't hinder.

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 2>My level of success in any way, shape or form.

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think like people have a hard time realizing that.

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Right you don't ever see me Chris and Dave fight.

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's see his are you right? Me and Chris and

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Dave are actually so fucking close. Chris wal call me

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and go, keV you going on tour and I'll go, ah,

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 2>not yet. He's like, don't lie, bitch, because I'm about

0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to put these dates up and don't you announce it? And

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 2>then we know, Chris, I would never. Okay, I got you,

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 2>see what you're saying. Chris will always make sure it's this, Dave,

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. I'm working on some shit. I ain't

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 2>got nothing yet, but I will. All right, I'm gonna

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 2>go up around this time. We make sure we communicate,

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 2>We we coexist because we're not against one another, like

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 2>we want to see each other flourish.

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>That's why it should be people at the topic, collaborating,

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>people at the bottom of compete.

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 2>It's and by the way, when we go and we're

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>down here with the younger generation, it should be nothing

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 2>but embracing.

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You said you wanted Kay to play you in a movie. Ye,

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you were any of your son's pissed off about that? No?

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 2>No, although my son, my son is in uh this

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 2>next fathletic spot that it did, he's showing his acting chops.

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm put him in a fat letic spot. I told

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Kyle that because everybody says like Ky and I have

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the same energy, and you know, Kyle wants to Kyle

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>wants to act. He's saying like, at some point he

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>wants to get into it. And I love that. I

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 2>love that he's already looking at bigger pictures. I love

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that he's making his money. I love that he has

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 2>his thing, and you know, I'm gonna figure out ways

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 2>to do that thing with him. And you know, even

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>even when I talk about comics, right like the Plastic coupleoys,

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.080
<v Speaker 2>when I talk about Spank, I talk about Naim, I

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Joey, Like these guys have been

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>headlining for a long time and being established in comedy.

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a very hard thing. It's a very hard thing

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>to be established in stand up comedy like this is

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about uh a contractor like mentality at work.

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, you gotta eat what you killed. So

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 2>without audiences, you got no got no revenue. You got

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>to figure out where to go and where to hustle

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>up to get the money. We're talking about a bunch

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 2>of people who have figured it out. I applauded that

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:38.479
<v Speaker 2>at the highest level.

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of eating right, it's fight night. Was the strange

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>doing that sex scene with Trog and was baby Boy

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>in any inspiration behind it? No, it was what I

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 1>did you study Tyres and baby Boy when he did that?

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>No, they really they really didn't sex scene. They really

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 2>like Tyrense and t really did a sex scene. Like

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>they had a lot of ship to do in that scene.

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The story of that scene told so much. You had

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.120
<v Speaker 2>flashbacks that she had to go through. It was a lot.

1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot that went into that. I mean,

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 3>tease my sister.

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So I minimalized it to where you know, we don't

1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:16.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't have to get that active and we don't

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 2>have to do that much and I think you know.

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 2>And in any project, it's all about the story that

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to tell. And if men Taraji had to

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 2>tell a different side of a story for the purpose

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of the the IP and and to set up the

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 2>future thing that's gonna happen, Okay, yeah, you can go there.

1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:39.280
<v Speaker 2>But the relationship between Viv and Chicken Man is one

1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 2>of her being this down ass chick and has rolled

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>with him and will ride with him for anything. Our

1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 2>sexual relationship isn't the highlight. It isn't stronger than you

1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>saying I got him and I know he got me.

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>So how do we how do we make sure we

1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:57.360
<v Speaker 2>told that line?

1:00:57.360 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's also within.

1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The creative I haven't had to do anything crazy like

1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that and any project that I've done to date, And

1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have to, you don't. You don't need to,

1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:13.800
<v Speaker 2>right It's like, once again, I'm the creator. I'm on

1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the side with the writers and the stuff, and they.

1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Do have something in there. If they're seeing keV this.

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 2>When you got to eat eat ass, why you don't

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>have to Anyways?

1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I love the Chicken Man character. Is it fair to

1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:29.840
<v Speaker 1>label the Chicken Man character a bad guy? Or is

1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he just a product of his environment.

1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:35.080
<v Speaker 2>He's not only a product of his environment. He's a

1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:40.240
<v Speaker 2>he's a definition of a real entrepreneur. And sometimes as

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur, your vision as a visionary can't be seen

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:48.320
<v Speaker 2>by everybody is everybody doesn't do what you do. So

1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Chicken Man can be seen as a guy that makes

1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.440
<v Speaker 2>bad decisions. But the people that are part of all

1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of his decisions know it's hard. They know they know

1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:01.560
<v Speaker 2>his won they know it's real, his real initiative and

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 2>what he's willing to do to get there, and why

1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 2>some can be a part of it and some can't,

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And why some can know this and some can't. Like

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:11.480
<v Speaker 2>if you know him, you're gonna love him.

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:12.840
<v Speaker 3>If you don't know me.

1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:16.240
<v Speaker 2>You hear about him, you're intrigued to know what it

1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:19.160
<v Speaker 2>is and why he's been Like, I found a lot

1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:21.520
<v Speaker 2>of similarities with Chicken Man, which is why I wanted

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.720
<v Speaker 3>The road to greatness is the road that everybody can't

1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:27.960
<v Speaker 3>be on.

1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:29.880
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people got left behind on Chicken

1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Man's road, and those that fucking stayed and made it

1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.720
<v Speaker 2>through the storm, they all saw the value at the

1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:37.160
<v Speaker 2>end of it.

1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Did Terrence, how will try to explain any of his

1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.080
<v Speaker 1>math to you.

1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I told Terrence, I love them, but I'm not I'm

1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:52.520
<v Speaker 2>not your customer. I love it.

1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I love terror.

1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I think there's one of the most talented people to

1:02:56.080 --> 1:02:59.320
<v Speaker 2>ever goddamn touch that acting stage like he is a

1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.840
<v Speaker 2>bad mother when it comes to action and cut Terrence

1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:07.080
<v Speaker 2>will do whatever it is that you needed to be done.

1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh stand character. Yeah, we know why he was wearing.

1:03:09.760 --> 1:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>To win everybody else. Yeah, but you know when he

1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:17.120
<v Speaker 2>when he starts to talk about the stuff, he's really

1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:19.600
<v Speaker 2>into that ship like that's his that's his ship. But

1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you have to You just gotta be honest with people

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<v Speaker 2>right out the gate. And I'm I'm not just customer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to retain this.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you say. I'm not trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you nothing. I'm just trying to explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Kevin, you're still gonna listen. I just had

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<v Speaker 2>to sit there and then when he got done, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, I see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question, do you think you were born already destined

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<v Speaker 1>to be who you are today or was this version

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<v Speaker 1>of you molded and crafted along this amazing journey.

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<v Speaker 2>You molded crafted?

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit the fairy tale and.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the traditional live absolutely Scott's I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm beyond blessed to have the support and

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<v Speaker 2>family that I had in coming up, the mother that

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<v Speaker 2>I had, and the support came from like me not knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people, a lot of people come down

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<v Speaker 2>on that younger child that don't know. I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>school ain't for me.

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<v Speaker 1>What you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people call it that guy or that

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<v Speaker 2>girl loser, or you know, you ain't doing it right.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't taking life serious, you ain't thinking everybody has.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody has a different legenda when it comes to time

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<v Speaker 2>and when things click versus when they don't. If you

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<v Speaker 2>take my mom's level of support away from me not knowing,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have never discovered the thing that I fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love with. Like I didn't go to school with

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<v Speaker 2>the purposely say I'm stopping because I'm about to start comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>I discovered it. It was it was an accident, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't on purpose. In conversation, care you should do it,

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<v Speaker 2>should try to amate you to night. Okay, the discovery

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<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with the new idea of the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I could do I love this thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this feeling. Now that I'm excited, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>energy and effort that I have it can go into

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<v Speaker 2>something that I actually am excited about. Without that excitement,

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<v Speaker 2>without that light bulb, A lot of people struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>the first step. It wasn't until I got my light bulb.

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<v Speaker 2>I hit the ground running. And then after that and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing your result of hard work pay off, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>attach that same effort and energy because you know what

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like to put one hundred percent into something

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<v Speaker 2>and then see it work. So what I am and

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<v Speaker 2>who I am today and where I'm at absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that I am here, I do feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's my job to be as best of an example

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<v Speaker 2>as I can be for the next generation to do

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<v Speaker 2>more and surpass right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 3>This shouldn't be it for who's to.

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<v Speaker 2>Come and what's to come next. I'm just a version

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<v Speaker 2>of new I was able to do. Like, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to do. But when I'm fucking fifty five,

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<v Speaker 2>god willing in sixty, I would love to see the

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<v Speaker 2>next version in position to do more or prepared to

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<v Speaker 2>do more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're making it easier for the next generation.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevi, I appreciate you man.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep growing my brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Great talk, great great dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea