1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: We gotta do a countdown check the mic. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Everything good, Kevin Set one, Sex, five, ten nine. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, You listen. Before I do these out of 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: context conversations, I like to set my intention. So my 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: intention for this combo is to properly shine the light 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: on the historic career of Kevin Hart, the entertainer, the mogul. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I want to put who you are and what you 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: have done in its proper context for people. 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: I love it. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Okay. Now, you once said in an interview, you said 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: life is a book, and you determine how it ends. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: What would you title this chapter of your life. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Understanding? I would say understanding forty five years old, and 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: I understand the purpose, I understand the value, I understand. 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: The real reward. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, this is about this is about clarity. 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: This is about having a bigger and better vision based 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: off of my now understanding. 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, when you was twenty five, how would 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: you define success? 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: What did it look like to you success at twenty five? 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Well, just when you were twenty five, Yeah, what did 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: success look like to you? 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: Success at twenty five was. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: No free weekends because you were booked, whether it was 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: comedy clubs or colleges, the stand up calendar was full. 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: The only thought was comedy, right, and I think you 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: know the opportunities for acting that came and sprinkled in 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: here and there. It was cool moments, but the stand 30 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: up and being a headliner in state end up, nothing 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: was bigger and better than that. So how do I 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: get a full calendar? 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: How has achieving the success you've achieved reshaped your definition 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: of what you thought success was twenty years ago? 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: I mean it's completely different. You know the success success 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: is like. 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: It's layered because you think it's financial, and then after 38 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: that you think it's material once you get financial, and 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: then it makes a weird shift where it turns into 40 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: like happy, right, And what level of success do you 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: have to reach for you to understand that happy is 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: always it should always be the first thing. And how 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 2: do you get that? How do you get to that? 44 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: The success is like it's a journey. It's a journey 45 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: that you embark on and go through all this stuff 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: to get there and go, I was I was this then? 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Like I was I was happy and I was vibrant 48 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: and that was fun. And as you obtain more your workload, 49 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: your stress, you want your need, Like everything starts to 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: come into play a little differently, So it boils down 51 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: to how do you get to the role of happy 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: and understanding the value of a circle, your friends, your family, 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: et cetera. Like that's that's where your thought process starts 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: to drive more towards as you get older. So the 55 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: biggest thing is happiness. Man, at the end of the day, like, are. 56 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: You doing what you love? 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Do you do you absolutely find joy and that thing 58 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: that you're dedicating yourself to on a day to day basis, 59 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: And does it make you better? Does it bring the 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: best out of you? Does it bring the worst out 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: of you? Like you gotta you gotta start to do that. 62 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: So my joy now comes in helping and creating opportunities 63 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: to see other people get to the place or. 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: To help position of the people. 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Correctly to do the thing that they want to do, 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: or to find the happiness and a thing that they 67 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: are thriving towards. 68 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: That's my new that's my new happy. 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Have you have you always been happy through through every 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: stage of this business and this career of yours? Have 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: you always been happy because you always present very happy? Yeah? 72 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not an unhappy person, right like, 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a good person, good energy behind me, But 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: my patience isn't you know, my patient. My patience isn't 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: as long as it should be. My patience is extremely thin, 76 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: because you know, the the more work you take on, 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: the more you're dealing with it on day to day. 78 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: So I think I've definitely been spread thin. And in 79 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: being spread thin, you because of your your your training, 80 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: you got one track that you're on in the the 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: only thing is this everything else in the way that 82 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: kind of has to be pushed to the side. So 83 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: my happiness at one point was coming on just trying 84 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: to achieve the goals. And I think during that time 85 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: I probably overlooked a lot of things that were real 86 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: definitions of true joy and true happiness. But because I 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: had the tunnel vision, I was focused on this thing. 88 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: So I don't think I don't think I've never not 89 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: been happy. I think that i've I think I've definitely 90 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: been absent minded at times. 91 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that you always haven't had success, 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: right like when you think about twenty years ago, you 93 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: got a shot in the industry, you had to sitcom 94 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: on ABC, the Big House, major motion picture Soul Plane, 95 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: And it was once said that you already had those 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: deals when you came to LA, and no one had 97 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: ever heard of a comedian who came to LA and 98 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: his first year in LA had all of that. People 99 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: never heard of that before you are since you. So 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: my question is, how did you achieve all of that? keV? 101 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: I mean, that's nuts. It's just it's insane to assume 102 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: that somebody came and was given anything, like I think 103 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: for those people to really follow my career and then no, 104 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't think there's bigger definitions of 105 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: hardship and work and success and takeaway. Right, So, early 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: stages of my career, doing the comedy festival, just for 107 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: last comedy festival, Oh my god, went there, killed it. 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: Holy shit, this is this is it. This is where 109 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: everything's going to come. Getting a deal at that point 110 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: in time was a big deal. I think there was 111 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: like two hundred thousand dollars. I got a dealtval Well. 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: I got a deal coming out of the festival because 113 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: basically I met with studios, Networks, et cetera, and they 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: said we're gonna do a development deal with you. 115 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: People forgot about those. 116 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: Development deals don't exist. No more talent development deals. This 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: is when comedians and the prime of their career got 118 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: opportunities coming out of these comedy festivals. And the Just 119 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: for Last Festival was like the biggest, the new faces. 120 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: It's like a showcase. 121 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so agents, studios, et cetera were all there. 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 3: I get this deal. 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: I believe it might have been with NBC, NBC or 124 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: ABC at the time, and you know, this is it. 125 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: I got the money, life change. I can do some 126 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: stuff for my family. Whatever money goes, nothing comes out 127 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: of the deal. Nothing. Well that was short lived. Later 128 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: I get the opportunity to develop a series, create a series. 129 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: This is the Big House. And the opportunity came for 130 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: me learning how people were developing, writing and pitching. So 131 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I can go back and the same 132 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: people I met with with my deal, I can start 133 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: pitching too. I want to pitch shows or pitch ideas 134 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: and doing that, we pitched a Big House. Big House 135 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: gets picked up. Finally I got a sitcom. This is 136 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: gonna be great. We shoot, we shoot the Big House, 137 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: We shoot the pilot. Pilot gets picked up. Time for 138 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: me to go to New York do the upfronts announce it. 139 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: Before I take the stage to announce my show is 140 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: going to be on ABC and this is the biggest 141 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: thing ever. They pulled me back and they said they're 142 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: deciding not to pick up your show. Wow, get right there. 143 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Uh are you serious? I'm here like I flew the 144 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: cast in we all this is exciting time. Yeah, no, 145 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: we're not. They're not gonna do it. Can't stand over 146 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: there that fast. It's over. 147 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: I gotta go home. I'm on a plane. 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: No show. I get a call probably six months later, 149 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna pick it up mid season. Oh my god, 150 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: the joy. Finally it came around. They air one episode, 151 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: maybe maybe two episodes, not even that many, maybe three, 152 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe two or three. Pulled it, canceled it. 153 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: No sitcom. Okay shit, I'm back back on the grid, 154 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: back on the grind. 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I'm in the world of auditioning. 156 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: Nothing's coming out of ith. Soul Playing came. Holy shit, 157 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: got another opportunity, booked the audition. Tons of people audition 158 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: with Soul Plan. Jessice Terrero was like, that's my guy. 159 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: I want him. 160 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Soul Plane his bootleg, biggest boot leg ever. 161 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: My success came from the bootleg and give soul playing 162 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: because people started to remember me and my success came 163 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: from Paper Soldiers and that underground movie and in the 164 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: bootleg circuit up so the memorable, the memorable side of understanding. 165 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's the guy from Oh shit, that's the comedian from. 166 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: I just started doing comedy clubs. 167 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: So I said, all right, fuck the acting stuff. 168 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go focus on the comedy. 169 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: So I went, I just did a comedy grind like 170 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: nobody's business. 171 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: It was a little Wayne Mixtape level comedy ground. 172 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: I went. I went. I remember so when I tell you, 173 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: I was so adamant about the comedy clubs. Stand up 174 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: any stage, any room, New York. Get the people, get 175 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: the fans, Go get the emails, go back, tell them 176 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: I'm coming back to the city again. 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: City Chicago's Cleveland. 178 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: Since then, you name it. I did that ship for 179 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: about I want to say I probably put in like 180 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: five years of non stop comedy club work, and over 181 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: that five years gathered the audience, gathered the nice amount 182 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: of emails. 183 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: This is when. 184 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Speak speed by that because you were in these comedy clubs. Yeah, 185 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I remember this. You were you were getting everybody's. 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: Email email and you had a newsletter that you yes, yeah, 187 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: I would, I would. I literally got Dang Cook is 188 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: one of the first people to like really embrace his 189 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: fans in the development of the relationship with the fans, right. 190 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: Dang Cook was one of the early early people that 191 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: I heard talk about this. And at this time, Dang 192 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Cook was like, boom, I mean HEU. So I'm like, 193 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: I gotta get emails and I got to talk to 194 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: the people. So I would do these newsletters for the 195 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: cities and I would, I would send them. I was 196 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: sent them out as a blast Like MySpace had a 197 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: feature at the time where you could basically like geotag 198 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: I'm coming to Cincinnati, and on your midspace you can 199 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: look for the people in Cincinnati. And I would personally 200 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: send out messages I'm coming to the Cincinnati I'm performing, 201 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Come see me perform. I mean you're copying, pasting the 202 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: same messages over and over again. Some people came, some 203 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: people didn't. But at the end of the shows, I 204 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: would know who came, and I would know the result 205 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: of me individually telling people to come out because I 206 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: would be able to match the emails addresses help with 207 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: things that I saw on the MySpace paids, So I 208 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: was like, between these things, if I stay true to it, 209 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: it'll work. So me and my guys, the Plastic Cupboys, 210 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: we would go to the city land, go to a mall, 211 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: pass out flyers, tell people about the show, get emails. 212 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: Then we would go to the show perform as people 213 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: were walking out getting emails. I used to have cards 214 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: and I would have cards on the table. People would 215 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: fill out the cards. I would take them. So then 216 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: at the end of the weekend, everybody that came, hey guys, 217 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: when I come back, I'm gonna make sure you all 218 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: know thanks for coming out. I built the rapport for 219 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: five years maybe more. I was very consistent with that 220 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: raport colleges. I was performing at showcases for colleges and 221 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: gathering that personnel. I didn't give a fuck where people were. 222 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: If it was people there, I was going to go 223 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: and I was going to personally make sure you knew 224 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: who I was and that I knew who you were. 225 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: So when I did Shacks All Star Comedy Jam that 226 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: that dropped. After I did Grown Little Man and I 227 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: was about to do seriously funny, I forgot the order 228 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: of it. But I was doing these comedy specials, and 229 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: it was for Comedy Central. It's gonna be my specials, 230 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: all right. It was like a little bit of knowledge, 231 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of steam off 232 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: of them. 233 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: The comedy club is getting a little full. 234 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: After the Shacks All Star Comedy Jam, I don't know 235 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: what happened, but that shit, that shit hit harder than anything. 236 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: And then I did Seriously Funny, so people were like, 237 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: whoa Shacks Star Star Comedy Jam? And then I did 238 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: different material, seriously funny, Okay, after seriously funny. Well that's 239 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: when it was it was okay, shit, this guy's like 240 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: the real deal. So it went from comedy clubs to 241 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: theaters real fast. I mean, right now, you're witnessing it 242 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: with Matt Rife, Like I remember that, like Matt Rife. 243 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: It's a weird thing that happened where Matt was in 244 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: comedy clubs and he was doing his like little things, 245 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: and the TikTok thing hit for him, and all of 246 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: a sudden, Matt Rife is doing shows. It arenas Matt 247 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: Rife sold out and he's It happened so fucking fast. 248 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: So when that happened, I said, well, I don't want 249 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: to run away from the thing that I was doing. 250 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I got to tell people, I am now going to 251 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: the theaters, right, the theaters. I'm gonna be at the theater, 252 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: not the comedy club. Well, theater's selling out so fucking fast. 253 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: So now I don't have to do the email ship 254 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: no more. 255 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to turn the social media too. 256 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: This when social media just started, right, this is when 257 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: all of the ship look out of the time was 258 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: getting past. Oh man, the tickets are selling, so we're good. 259 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't I don't have to do this like I 260 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: once did. Twitter. 261 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: Twitter is now so now Twitter I learned. 262 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: What that is, and I'm like, oh wait, I can 263 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: talk directly to my like to the people that follow me. 264 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: Go back to the world of emails. I'm on Twitter. 265 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: Here's my act name. Make sure y'all follow me. 266 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: I remember all of it. 267 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: So all the people that I gathered from all of 268 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: these cities. Name of city during that time, Detroit name 269 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: A fuck, I don't give it. Every city. I don't 270 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: care if it's an A market, B market, C market. 271 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: I went everywhere. Once I said follow me on Twitter, 272 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: all right, well I'm out the gate. I had like 273 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: three hundred some thousand followers. 274 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you were the first person we knew what 275 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: a million followers. I was like, oh shit, you got 276 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: a million followers. 277 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: I said, I gotta talk to them. So now the 278 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: emails that I was sending that people were on privy 279 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: to are now a person of person conversations. Now the 280 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: shows are getting bigger, the theaters are getting bigger. We're 281 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: adding shows. We're going from two thousand seaters to five 282 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: thousand seaters. And just like that, as a headliner, I changed. 283 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: I changed the way I looked at how I developed comedy. 284 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: I said, I need to have a system in place 285 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: that allows me to stay on the road and come 286 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: off the road. I shot two specials as The Grown 287 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Little Man that is seriously funny. The Shocks All Star 288 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: thing was like a favor. I was like, Shacks said, keV, 289 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: you want to do this thing. Jeff Clanning Kingo's my partner, especially, 290 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: was a favor. All these things hit. I was like, 291 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: all right, well, I can't fuck this up. So now 292 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to go and I'll do a tour. 293 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: My tour should always last a year and a half 294 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: and I'll end my tour with the filming of a 295 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: comedy special and then I'll develop another set through the 296 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: course of a year and a half to maybe maybe 297 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: close to two. So I had an own season offseason, 298 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: but it always gave a two year gap in between 299 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: stand up, so I never oversaturated myself in the market. 300 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: So toil this date, there's always a two year window 301 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: in between my specials. But during that off year, I'm 302 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: developing the new material. So when I come back and 303 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: announce a tour, while I'm coming back with new material 304 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: in the new road, and by the time I filmed 305 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 2: the next special, It'll be two years past before the 306 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: last one step repeats that repeat. So I built the 307 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: process based off of hard work, understanding, and commitment, and 308 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: that commitment came from the failed opportunities in Hollywood. They 309 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: threw my TV show back at me, the movies that 310 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: I had the opportunities to start and did not work 311 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: in a successful template of working in the business. Paper 312 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: Soldiers wasn't a box office success, it wasn't a theater released, 313 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: it was a straight to DVD. Soul Plain was supposed 314 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: to be a box office success, got bootleg basically another 315 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: straight to DVD if you ask me so, because I 316 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: mean the rest part from you talking about we got two, 317 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: you got something like a business, and you got thirty five. Right, 318 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: So these are all of mine, These are my big opportunities. 319 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: At that time, none of this shit was huge successful. 320 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: This was all These are all culture culture like cultural 321 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: fucking pieces of IP that we grabbed on two and 322 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: supported and loved. So because of that, the fan base 323 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: got better with stand up. But I went back to 324 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: stand up. I was like, I'm out this la shit. 325 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here waiting by the phone. I'm out. I 326 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: went back and hustled stand up and was just in 327 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: the grind of stand up specials until. 328 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: Will Packer came to me. 329 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: This was after laughing my pants is I want to say, 330 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe my third or fourth special And 331 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Will came over and think, like a man, we're talking 332 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, I don't know, maybe third 333 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: or fourth. 334 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: The reason I'm glad you're having this conversation when you 335 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: think about all of these opportunities you had, I see 336 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: you doing that for other black creatives. Now, so when 337 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: Rush Paul had the opportunity he puts you in something 338 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: names had the opportunity he put you in something. Will Packer, 339 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: he puts you something, Shack, he put you in something. 340 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: You're doing the same exact thing for people. Now. 341 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: You know. The realization though, man, is like the people 342 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: are putting you in something because they have something to 343 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: put you in. Right right, We're in a time now 344 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: where it changes because the expectation of what you're supposed 345 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: to do doesn't match the energy of what you're actually doing. 346 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: And I think you know that line has blurred a 347 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: little bit. Like Shack called me, Jeff called me. I'm like, yeah, 348 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: of course, it just so happened that that was the thing. 349 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: But they were doing a thing at the same time. 350 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: It matched up. 351 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to create more things that can hopefully be 352 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: the thing. 353 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: For someone else. Now, you don't know. 354 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't have it. I don't have a strong grasp 355 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: on the business to go. This is gonna launch you. 356 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: You can be a star. Get ready, here it come. 357 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: I just know, like, hey, man, I got some dope. 358 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: IP I want to create some movies or mine. Some aren't, 359 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: but hey, here's opportunities. Here's a blender of opportunities that 360 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: I can put people in and continue it and grow 361 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: within it. I mean, when you look at just what 362 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: we're doing at Heartbeat in the scripted and unscripted space. 363 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: It's all based off of the new version of our 364 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: generation acting, comedians, writers, directors, etc. I'm saying, if I 365 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: can do three to four projects a year and we 366 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: got new faces in them, I'm doing my part. If 367 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: I can say, hey, man, we're gonna shoot forty comedy 368 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: specials and we're gonna have those comedy specials on our 369 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: fast channel and on this distribution platform, I'm not only 370 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: giving them a stage, but I'm also giving them visibility. 371 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: I'm doing my part, right Like, at this point, what 372 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: is my part? 373 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: Where is my. 374 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: Value best served? And I feel like it's best served 375 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: in creating the opportunities for others. And you know, if 376 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: somebody pops off of something that I put to the table, man, 377 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: I think that's the dopest story ever. To just be 378 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: a part of the early stages of the next person's 379 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: the next person's journey, I would be fucking beyond blessed. 380 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: How does it feel knowing that you have achieved so 381 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: much success that people think you're an industry plan. 382 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the biggest compliment ever, right you when 383 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: you hear things like that. You just you got to 384 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: give a nod to common sense versus lack thereof. You know, 385 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: I had a conversation with my daughter one day and 386 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: she was asking a question and like debating off of 387 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: the hype emthetical of if something was real versus not, 388 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: And I said, you know, everything is researchable if you 389 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: really want to know it, if people really care, you 390 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 2: really want to know things, it's very easy to go 391 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: do some research. And actually beyond easy, it's like it's 392 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: dumb proof today, like Google has. It's so dumb proof 393 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: that you can actually type in the dumbest version of 394 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: a question and Google will correct your question and give 395 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: you the right side of your question with the options 396 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: for you to go find the thing that you're looking for. 397 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: So if you really give a shit, you can go 398 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: and see. 399 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the industry plant conversation is what is it? 400 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Like when you when you really 401 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: break that down, it means. 402 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: It means that's why I want you to tell you 403 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: a story, And I'm glad it's the story, Like you said, 404 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: the stories out there people want to know. It means 405 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: that somebody puts you in this position. Yeah, and press 406 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the button yeah, and that's the god. 407 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 2: So when I say, what does that mean? Like, what 408 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: are we talking about? So if that's the case of success, 409 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: is that easy? How many different versions of that would 410 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: you see to day? And by the way, wouldn't those 411 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: be the stories that were highlighting because they're all false? 412 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: Like if that's the case, I mean, some things get 413 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: so ridiculous that catch on. 414 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: It's just. 415 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: It's astronomically insane to process. No, I could give two 416 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: ships like I mean, that's why you don't hear me 417 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: address shit or fire bag of shit. It's like you 418 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: got time to address and talk and come back at 419 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: people when you have time. I don't. I don't have 420 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: the time like I and not because yeah, not because 421 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm an asshole, but I'm actually I don't. I don't 422 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: have the time. I don't have the time to give 423 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: a rebubble that or the energy to give that any 424 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: type of outside thought. And like I said, if it's 425 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: if it's something that people are really curious about or 426 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: people really wanted to know, it's great researching. 427 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: I got a list of things that are taking up 428 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: your time. Correct me if any of these things have changed. 429 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: One people think you're in the Illuminati, because you're not 430 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: just a comedian, you're a businessman. Yeah, let's just listen 431 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: to these things. Heartbeat Productions, Lol Network, We're serious, Grand 432 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: Carmino Tequila, SPH Productions, which is our audience company, Fabletics 433 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: Active Where, Heavenly Heart, which is a health and wellness 434 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: brand named after your daughter, Harthouse, your plant based food chain. 435 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: You partnered with brands like Chase Bank, Nike. I was 436 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: told you invested in draft Kings and you're invested in 437 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: Hydro which is a rowing machine company. There are plenty 438 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: of comedians who are just comedians. You are a businessman 439 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: who are what contributed to that business actimen. 440 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: Early stages of growth Jeff Clan again, Jeff Clan again. 441 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: I want to say, is an asset that sparked my 442 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: entrepreneur side of thinking and just from him saying or suggesting, 443 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: hey man, instead of us going this way, why don't 444 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: we do this ourselves? So taking the money from tour 445 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: and using that money to fund I stand up Special 446 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: and then taking my stand up Special and distributing it 447 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: through a AMC. And when we did that the big win. 448 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: It just made me understand investment and return right or 449 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: all out the return on your investment. We took seven 450 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty grand shot our comedy special, released it theatrically. 451 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: It did like nine million theatrically. Theaters take their cut. 452 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: After the theaters take their cut, we get back. I pie. 453 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: I walked away with like close to two and a 454 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 2: half three million dollars. Right, Oh shit, seven point fifty 455 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: turned into three. 456 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: That's investing. So like, how does that work? 457 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: How do you grow businesses in a manner where you 458 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: can invest and then ultimately see a return. Well, you 459 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: got to have businesses, You have to have ideas. More importantly, 460 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: you got to own shit. I started to understand the 461 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: importance of owning shit. I realized that how many people 462 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: that do the same thing that I do that don't 463 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: own shit. There's no shot to any of them. But 464 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: once we're done, right, once we once we say good night, 465 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: and we're done doing the job that we've chosen to 466 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: do forever, you got to look back. And when you 467 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: look back, what do you see? Early on, I saw 468 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: that studios had these amazing catalogs. These catalogs are so dope, 469 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: they're great, And the value of these catalogs for studios 470 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: is significant because it's the talent attached to them. Allow 471 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: some studios to leverage that talent that IP to go 472 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: out get more money so that they can go out 473 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: shoot develop more IP of the same ultimately to build 474 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: that catalog so that that catalog is a definition of 475 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: representation of their value. Their value continues to grow and 476 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: jump based off of star power and work for hires 477 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: that are fined with receiving the dollar at the early 478 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: stage but not being a part of it at the back. 479 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: All right, So how do I fix that or be 480 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: different in that regard? Well, I'm gonna own the one 481 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: thing that I can at the early stage that I control. 482 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: I own. 483 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 2: I own my live entertainment business for myself. If I 484 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: decide to do comedy, I own this entity of comedy. 485 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: That entity shoots a comedy special, I'm gonna own it, 486 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna license it, step repeat, Okay, Well 487 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: I can do this with other IP. I got to 488 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: create the companies Heartbeat, laugh out Loud, Okay, the studios 489 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: are partners, but make sure that we own a piece 490 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: of the company with the studio. 491 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: Well, we can't do that. 492 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Why not have we ever asked? Have we ever asked 493 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: for an unconventional deal. If we do ask for that 494 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: unconventional deal, let's see what the return is. Let's see 495 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: if they jump up and say okay, because you're a 496 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: good partner. We actually had some good partnerships in the 497 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: early stages that weren't afraid to take those jumps. Lionsgate 498 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: was a great partner with laugh out Loud. We did 499 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: great business. Lionsgate then allowed me to buy lef out 500 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Loud back and full when they didn't want it, I 501 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: took laugh out Loud merged it with Heartbeat. 502 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: All right, I got one big entity. Now wow, So 503 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: now let me. 504 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: Start to push things under the machine. I want to 505 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: push and shovel anything I do under the machine. It 506 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: all has to come through Heartbeat, and through that, Let's 507 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: see how much I can own versus what I can so. Now, 508 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: any deal, any unconventional deal, it has to come through 509 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: my pipeline and the relationships of others. Now, respect the pipeline. 510 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: So let me hire the people. Let me get the 511 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: right team, right execs, right presidents, right coos, CFOs, heads 512 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: of SVP's EPs. Well, now I got the money to 513 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: pay them, because I'm taking the money from all his 514 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: lives entertainment, and I'm just going to bring it over here. 515 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: So until I get a return, I'm a funding machine, 516 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: because that's an investment. I'm investing in this personnel, I'm 517 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: investing in these works for hire. I'm investing in the 518 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: idea of this company. 519 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: When you were in these comedy clubs, did you ever 520 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: think stand up comedy would lead you to these opportunities 521 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: that have created all these other companies and got you 522 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: at a network of four hundred and fifty million dollars. 523 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: No, but that's the fucked up part, right like you, 524 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: stand up comedy is the gateway into everything, and entertainment, 525 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 2: entertainment in general, is the gateway into everything. And you 526 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: don't have to do it right. You don't have to 527 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: knock it out the park and fucking walk away with 528 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: the biggest bang, with the biggest win. The closer you 529 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: get is best and better for the people that are 530 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: gonna come and do the same things behind you. So 531 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: there were a lot of peoples that didn't necessarily do 532 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: it right, but they cracked the door enough for me 533 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: to go through that door and get a little further 534 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: than what they did. Understand that the likeness that I 535 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: had can bring the value of private equity partners or 536 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: investors or companies or bandwidth. I bring value to different operations, 537 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: so in return, you're giving me something for my value. 538 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: So stand up comedy was the asset and still is 539 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 2: the asset that acts as the gold nugget to fucking 540 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: greatness because the meetings that you're able to obtain, the 541 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: rooms that you're now able to be in, is all 542 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: based off of Man, that got so funny and so cool. 543 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: So don't downplay the fun an early thing. The early 544 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: thing is the most valuable thing. Oh man, I want 545 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: you to go see that guy. He was funny and shit. 546 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: Then after the show it was nice. You gotta meet Doug. 547 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Doug works over at Amazon. He does X, Y and Z. 548 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a partnership here, man, but 549 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: you should meet him. A lot of people don't have time. 550 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't mean no fucking weird weird ass dude named Doug. 551 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm good. Well why not? Doug just so happens to 552 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: be in front of content and creative. So meeting Doug, 553 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: you done put yourself in a situation to get some 554 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: knowledge and information, and you tell Doug I'm gonna come back, 555 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: we should meet again, speak. 556 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: To that more. Does your humility play a role in 557 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: how far you've been able to go? 558 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I did not. I did not put myself on 559 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: a on this crazy pedestal of expectation of how you 560 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: should perceive me. Right, I think really having an even 561 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: kill and understanding of like level set at all times. 562 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: Like businesses, business partnerships are partnerships, opportunities opportunity And if 563 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: you shake your hand, it's two sides to a handshake. 564 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: So if you shake my hand and I'm shakier's back, 565 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: that means that we should both get something from whatever 566 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: we're deciding to do together. It shouldn't just be about me, 567 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: so it shouldn't just be about you. And I think 568 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: to date, my relationships with my studio partners, the representations 569 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: of that, you know, I've never tried to kill them. 570 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: I've never came in and front loaded any of my deals. 571 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: And this is my partner's are universal to Netflix, Apple, Amazon, 572 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean I can go warners, I can go down 573 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: the list of them all. 574 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: What do you need for this. 575 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: To be a win for you? All right? So I'm 576 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: gonna do this on my side. I'll take this and 577 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: I'll play with you on the back half. So in success, 578 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: we all have success. And as a partner throughout the years, well, 579 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: my work has been consistent because they value me as 580 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: a guy that's coming to the table at all times 581 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: with the best interests of this and myself. I've never 582 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: been to give me all mine now and y'all figure 583 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: it out. If you lose, I should lose too. And 584 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: that's that's that's a real like, that's a real thought 585 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: that I have in any in any aspect right. And 586 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: the best partnerships that I have, like in Fabletics, Fathletics, 587 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: and I decided to do business because I was with 588 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: Nike and I get with great partners. We developed the 589 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 2: sneakers together, we were doing great activations. I mean some 590 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: of the best relationships came out of Nike of just 591 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: personnel and understanding that business. I had an opportunity of 592 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: Fathletics to help grow a brand and be responsible for 593 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: men's They said, Kevin, we don't want you to come 594 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: in and just like do it and just be a phase. 595 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: We want you to develop it with us. 596 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: We want you to be a real partner. We want 597 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: you to be creative. 598 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 2: So I had an opportunity to go and create a 599 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: man's line with a brand that didn't have it yet, 600 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: be responsible for elevating, amplifying. I'm the business now that 601 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: didn't exist that does well, I'm gonna do that because 602 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: if I do it right, all of my partnerships that 603 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: I do Afterwards, I now got a resume with a receipt. 604 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: A receipt says Kevin Hart can do this for a company, 605 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: for a brand, for a entity. Kevin Hart did this. 606 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: So I took that ran with that. And now when 607 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: you talk about the other partnerships that have come to 608 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: the table, well, here's what I am as an incubator, 609 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 2: Here's what I am as an amplifier. And the words 610 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: that I'm able to use now, I didn't know these 611 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: fucking words. 612 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, how much do sales shoot up when you're 613 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: putting juice skin coys and not in the fabletics? 614 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: H you know, it's crazy? Like that was such a genuine, 615 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: authentic moment. So they had just they had just sent me, 616 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: uh like we got we we have new product and 617 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: always get stuff first. And Kyle was joking around like 618 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: the sleepover man, you know we gonna be late. I 619 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: didn't know what to expect, so I still had the box. 620 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: I had the box with me with the fact that 621 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: lot of stuff. So just in genuine authentic moment during 622 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: that loud stream, I'm like, I got you a gift, Kai, 623 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: and I didn't have a gift. 624 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: I just gave you one of my sweatsuits, me the 625 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: same size. 626 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: You want me to believe that you had Drew Sky size. 627 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: That's the second one, me and Kai. 628 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: That first one. 629 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: I just gave Kai the gift like as a sweatsuit. 630 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: So Kai, we put along. We're just playing around. It 631 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 2: was my sweatsuit coming back. I go, oh shit, that's 632 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: dope as fuck. 633 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: Man. 634 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: It's dope because it's just good energy and it's a 635 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: real reaction. 636 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back. 637 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing because the Kai and 638 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: the juice give it all. Well, it's really about me 639 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: and powering them. I went to their world. I didn't 640 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: change that world to fit me. I want nothing to 641 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: do with your world. 642 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: I want to fucking be. 643 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: A part of your world by showing how dope you are. 644 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: So I didn't come there as Kevin Hart to start. 645 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: Let's talk about all my shit I got going on. 646 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: I came in and said, well, what does it mean 647 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: when you do all this shit? 648 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: What we do? 649 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: Now? 650 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: What? 651 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: What I gotta do? Money train, hype train? What? 652 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: What? 653 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: The business has ignored the fact that these guys are 654 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: the new business? 655 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: What it fits you though? Because your brand is fun, 656 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: his brand is fun. It's easy. 657 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: It's an easy, seamless fit. But what I'm trying my 658 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: best to do is show show the business, the studio business, 659 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: that the opportunities for them that we should be thinking 660 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: about exists where they're already succeeding. You. 661 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: Don't try to break and create a new model. 662 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: Try to figure out what they want to do and say, okay, 663 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: well how can I help you? How going to be. 664 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: Accessible for you and to you? 665 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: So for Kyle Drewski just because of the love the 666 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: sweatsuits and all this is funny. Well, I didn't ask 667 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: Kyle what you make from this and how you get 668 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 2: your money? 669 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: I want none of it, dude. 670 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: I liked it. I came and fucked with y'all. Did 671 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: you have some success? 672 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: Right? 673 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: More people came agree with your ship, Jusky. I love 674 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: that people know how funny you are. Man, you too, 675 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck with y'all more, We're gonna figure it out. 676 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: You was EP and the show for Juski before this. 677 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to develop the Juice shovel Juski for 678 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 2: a minute. 679 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: Still are still are like Juicy. 680 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: I think Jew is a star. I think Kai is 681 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: a star. I think you know when you look at 682 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: Mr Beese and what he's doing, like you're looking at 683 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: people that are creative minds and have figured out another 684 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: route to economic success. They have They have found a 685 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 2: way to say I'm going here, and I'm going here. 686 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: Mister Beaese's whole business is not just content but product commerce. 687 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: Like, are you fucking kidding me? 688 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: You're talking about a talent that has figured out how 689 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: to bring commerce to his audience through a platform. That 690 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: guy's doing the right. Guess what I'm gonna do. Guess 691 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. Hey Jimmy, I need to talk 692 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: to you. I don't want to control. I want to 693 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: know and I want to learn, but more poorly, I 694 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: want to partner. 695 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: How do we sit? How do we talk? 696 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: Hey Kyle, Hey Juice, how do we sit? How do 697 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: we talk? Collaboration is the best form of success. You 698 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: can't collaborate. It's a it's a real lonely world, man, 699 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: And that whole fathletics thing and just me doing started 700 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: off as just a fucking real, easy, genuine thing because 701 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 2: I had it juice skin Kai came back. 702 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: Hey man, we're going to throw these on again. 703 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: Got you? 704 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: keV is love. It's nothing forced. 705 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: It was a it was a thing that worked because 706 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: of the authenticity and the brand. 707 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: Of course was happy. 708 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: But as a guy that controls the brand and operates 709 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: on this behalf, people associate me with the product seamlessly, 710 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: so it's never forced. 711 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to I want to talk to you 712 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: about fatherhood. Right as a father, I'm sure your family 713 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: motivates you to keep working and do more, but you 714 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: also want to prioritize being present. So how often do 715 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: you face the conflict of choosing between work and family 716 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: and how do you maintain the balance? 717 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: I got a lot better. I've got a lot better, man. 718 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: You know. 719 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: I think the engine in the early stages is an 720 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 2: engine dedicated to I'm doing all this so that they 721 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: don't have to, right Like, I'm thousand miles per hour 722 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: because I want to have this or that they can 723 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: have this or that we can do this. But then 724 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: you start to realize that that time can't get that 725 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: time back, and you start to miss real shit, real 726 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 2: shit the matters. Kids get older, they drop some shit 727 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: on you about what they wish you were at that 728 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: you wasn't, but it's okay, and you want to make 729 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: those changes. So I think because I've had such an 730 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: open relationship with my kids, a comfortable one where we 731 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: can talk and be transparent, I've been able to adjust 732 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: in real time and make things better. So I think 733 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: today I'm way more present than what I was in 734 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, two thousand and eight, twenty twelve. 735 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a good dad, Like I'm I'm, I'm there, 736 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: and I make sure I'm there cause you I'm breaking 737 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: the ground in what fatherhood looks like from my family, 738 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: like me and my brother, our dad wasn't theirs, so 739 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: it was it was cool, but it was hit and 740 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: miss in and out. So me and my brother prioritize 741 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: how active we are with those kids, like it takes 742 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: the village. Like literally, my brother is the best asset 743 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 2: that I have outside of my wife. Like, hey man, 744 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: I gotta go on a road and I'm gonna be 745 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: going for set time. 746 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: Go and make sure the kids are good. 747 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: Pop in with them for like four days, give them 748 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: some activities, some stuff to do. I know they got classes, 749 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You're you're. We have a very nice 750 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: rapport of how we operate, and the kids love it. 751 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: They they see the efforts. They respect it. I think 752 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 2: they also see how I kill myself to get back 753 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: to them, you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm 754 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: out on tour buses, I'm back and forth, back and forth, 755 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: laying two days. All right, I leave one day, come 756 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: back to night. Like it's it's a lot, but it's 757 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: worth it. 758 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: What is what is losing? Both your parents taught you 759 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: about parently, it's very. 760 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: Important to to understand, like this ship is a gift. 761 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: This this this game of life is a luxury and 762 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: you you don't have to be a part of that 763 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: luxury loan. 764 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: Scary thing about death is the next day. 765 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: Life still goes on right, Like you lose people that 766 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: you love, but the next day you still have to operate. 767 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: You still have to figure out this thing. You still 768 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: have to pay the bill, you still have to do 769 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: the work. You still have to figure out. You still 770 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: have to raise the kids. You still have to like 771 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: it doesn't stop because of your moment of mourn. So 772 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: what I what I definitely have been an example of 773 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: is strength. You know, when my mom and my dad passed, 774 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: I think my kids seeing how I handled both of 775 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: it from a realistic standpoint, is it's something that was 776 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 2: a value to them, right because rather than feeling the 777 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: death at the saddest level, I celebrated the life at 778 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: the highest and that was a I think that was 779 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: a thing that that they both kind of my two 780 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: older kids, my younger ones were a little my dad 781 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 2: passed away, it was sad, but my two older ones 782 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: kind of like understood my way of thinking and my 783 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: reason for why. And you know, I was like, It's 784 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 2: okay to be sad, but I'm making a conscious choice 785 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: in this moment to just think about the celebration, the 786 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: life that they lived, what they did, the great things, 787 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 2: And it was more about the storytelling on that side 788 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: of it than it was about the crime. 789 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: How did you have to adjust your last stand up? 790 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: Because I told you I saw you with the garden 791 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: when you it was what became reality check, And I 792 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: told you, I feel like that was your best at right, 793 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: and you had a lot of you know material in 794 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: there about your father being sick. But by the time 795 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: the special came out, passed had passed. So how did 796 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: you have to adjust? 797 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean I went your you put it in the 798 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: past tense, right, like, you know, when my dad was 799 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,479 Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest memories was my dad 800 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: would or you know, I mean, it's crazy that my 801 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 2: dad's not here because these thoughts like that I'm having 802 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 2: are all based from my dad. Like everything. I kind 803 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 2: of just put it in in the past moment and 804 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: the set became more of a dedication to my father 805 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: than than what it was in the in the beginning stages. 806 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: But my dad passed away in the middle of that tour, 807 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: know that tour, so I had to finish that set. Actually, 808 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy. Where were we at he just 809 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: passed away? He had just passed away. We were doing 810 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 2: the Uh I was doing the set when I'm thinking 811 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: about it, like, I'm like, yeah, my dad, and it 812 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: hit me on stage. Damn, that's the first time I 813 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 2: felt that, Okay, that's it's in there. At some point 814 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna come out. Like I've just told you. My 815 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 2: way of handling it was celebrating the life or whatever. 816 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: And during that set, that's why I felt like a 817 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: little I felt the thing, that emotional thing and talking 818 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: about him as if he were still here and knowing 819 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: that he wasn't. And at the end of that show, 820 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: I told the audience my dad passed away. Wow. And 821 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 2: that's where it hit me. 822 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I little. 823 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: I had to get off stage at I mean, grief 824 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: is okay. And I'm not saying you don't have it 825 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: when you shouldn't have it. I'm saying it hit me 826 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 2: in that moment. And to date, I don't think that 827 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: I've I still probably haven't grieved correctly over my mom 828 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 2: like I think I I accepted it. I knew what 829 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 2: it was because I knew it was coming. But I've 830 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: never had like a thing like a spiral fallout of thing. 831 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, they say staying busy is a response to trauma. 832 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: So you stay busy so you don't have to the 833 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: the boy dealing with what you probably should be dealing with. 834 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: So that's kids, I'm probably dealing with a lot. 835 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't know that. 836 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not going to fight that because I don't 837 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 2: know that. But if there was something to deal with, 838 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: it could step from that. But I'm also addicted to work, 839 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: like that's a work as a drug for me. 840 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you tweeting back in twenty thirteen, you said, 841 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: if you are afraid of failure, you don't deserve to 842 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: be successful. I think he was quoting Charles Barkley or somebody. 843 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: When I hear you say you're addicted to work, and 844 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: we watch it, we watch you, Are you afraid to fail? 845 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: No? No, because I fail all the time. 846 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: But at this point, I mean, what what is failure? 847 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Like? 848 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 2: Like, right now I can go belly up the money, 849 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 2: the money could go away whatever, Like I'm never not 850 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 2: going to be okay. 851 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 3: I know how to get to the money. 852 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: My confidence on my ability to get to the money, I'm. 853 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 3: Going to be okay. 854 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: Like there's like in the beginning stages of life, the hood, 855 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: et cetera, like there's a there's a real fear of uh, 856 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: I don't know where I ain't gonna be able to 857 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 2: fuck you, I don't know, Like there's there's a real 858 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 2: fear there because you're at the bottom right when you've 859 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: been when you've been to the top, And is it 860 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: really a fair at that point, like, Okay, you're saying 861 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 2: I had it all and I lost it, so now 862 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: my journey is getting some of it back. 863 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 3: Like, it's not a fear, that's it's a moment. 864 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: And in business and entrepreneurship, things don't always go the 865 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: way you want. So if an investment didn't work and 866 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 2: I over committed, or if this went belly up and 867 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: I didn't have like, it's that stuff is very much possible. 868 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 2: I think for me, the lack of success or moment 869 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: where unsuccess like presents itself, that's dope because there's so 870 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: much information in that. There's so much information you gained 871 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: from the thing that didn't work, the thing that flopped, 872 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 2: the thing that fucking was supposed to Like, there's information 873 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: value in that. So it's about how you It's about 874 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: how you take it. I don't. I don't take it. 875 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: I don't take it with it like a negative grain 876 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: of salt. I'm I'm pretty well with receiving that. I 877 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: just think I need to be committed to something me 878 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: to make my life feel like it has a driving 879 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: source of energy that won't die. 880 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: Like I like this because it keeps you from being petty. 881 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: But you're still a cancer KIV. Yeah, I'm a cancer 882 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: is a cancer. We're all busy people. We still find 883 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: he's different. If you find a little time to be 884 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: petty with the people that throw shots, that you different. 885 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: You don't never what's the most pettiest thing you've thought 886 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: about doing. 887 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 2: I've done it, just people would never know, like like 888 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: people would never know it like I don't. It's like, 889 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, people like the public here, Okay, this is 890 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: something I said. I was talking to somebody man, And 891 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's really not hard if you have if 892 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 2: you have real problems with people, and your problems are 893 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: like serious, it's not hard to ever get to a 894 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: person and really like address the problem. 895 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: Right. 896 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: The problems that people have of me, they aren't my problems. 897 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 2: So the idea of being petty or going back and forth, 898 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 2: it's so beneath me because I don't have the problem, 899 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: and I feel like if I engage, it makes it 900 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: look like I got a problem. I don't. 901 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: All Well, things get taken out of context too, though, 902 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: because even when you think about Cat Williams on Club Sha, 903 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought you threw shots at him first, 904 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: and he was replying. 905 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: Back there's I think there's probably one moment where I've 906 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 2: actually talked about Kat publicly, and this was when Timmy 907 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 2: and this was like we were we were promoting night 908 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 2: School and Tiffany was affected by some of the things 909 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: he said, and it was more of a like support 910 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: for her in that moment and like some shots at him. 911 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: Do you regret that? 912 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I shouldn't even God, I should never address him 913 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: at all. I don't have to, Like why what will 914 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: it do for me? What will I gain? 915 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 3: There's no gain. 916 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: So I look at everything from a business and economic standpoint, 917 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 2: like if I'm investing in something, well, what is my return? 918 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 2: What's the return on my investment? What's the return on 919 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 2: my time? Was the return on my energy? Was the 920 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 2: return on my investment? So that investment of self words 921 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 2: dialogue brings me what what? What? What? And if I 922 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 2: can't answer that question, or if people around me can't 923 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 2: answer that question, then it doesn't get an in an 924 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 2: inklet of energy. So it has nothing to do with 925 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: people feeling like they're above, people feeling like they're better. Oh, 926 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: it has to do with a strong understanding of you 927 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: and like yourself level of awareness, like I'm i can 928 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: check all these boxes, but to some they want to 929 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: take it or misconstrued or twist it as it's not. 930 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 2: It's not my problem, it doesn't become my problem. 931 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: Is that a part of acting my age, acting my 932 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: agees is so dope and you can have I know 933 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: you said fifteen, you have more of you want you 934 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: can do'n like twenty thirty. 935 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: I want make sure you get your shit. 936 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 3: Oh great, I'll say. 937 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: The better side of acting my age and the understanding 938 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 2: of what this special is is like, it's so dope 939 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: to understand what the idea of old age is. It 940 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 2: should be older, older, should be wiser, it should mean 941 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: like fucking wisdom. It's life lived. The older you get 942 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: your representation of life lived. And if you're lucky enough 943 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 2: to make it to fifty sixty seventy, that means you 944 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 2: were one of the few fortunate people and not only 945 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: made it to the other side of life, but got 946 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 2: to see other lives make it there as well. Grandkids, kids, 947 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: have kids, homes, families, whatever it is, neighborhoods change, fucking 948 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 2: the inclusion of the merge between. If you're a person 949 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: that got to witness and was around and I remember 950 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: when man, what's better? I just worked with Samuel Jackson 951 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 2: and dopes thinking about Samuel Jackson when we do a 952 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 2: fight night as every day, Sam had a story about 953 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 2: the shit that happened during that time because he was there. 954 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: He was there. Oh man, right here, y'all see this 955 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 2: right here. This wasn't this spot. This used to be 956 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 2: raise and what they would do here? You just sitting 957 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 2: listen the joy that Sam found and telling us the 958 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 2: moments of life that he lived that none of us 959 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 2: could fucking relate to because. 960 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 3: None of us were around. 961 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,919 Speaker 2: Sam was the one lucky, the one lucky individual from 962 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 2: this time that can still talk about it. Some other 963 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 2: people might not be here, other friends from that time 964 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: may be there, may not. But he was so happy 965 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: at telling the stories. That's joy. That's fucking great. So 966 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: the age forty five, I'm embracing the concept of getting 967 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: older and being the thing that you're becoming instead of 968 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 2: running away from it. Everybody's running this way. Everybody's trying 969 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: to get younger, pulling the skin back and taking this 970 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: all for doing that. 971 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: But what does aging look like in a realm where 972 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: the goal is to remain relevant? That's why everybody's doing 973 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,720 Speaker 1: this skin stuff, the tucks and whatever else the Olympic. 974 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't know what other people are 975 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: going through, So I would never speak on. 976 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 3: Another person's behalf. I would say that. 977 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 2: If more, if we saw more people celebrate the cool 978 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: shit about ages ages, I think that aging would be 979 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 2: highlighted differently, right, I think the conversations attached to it 980 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 2: or one side that you hear, we only hear one 981 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: side of it. And when you're talking about saying relevant, 982 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: it's it's it's all subjective. You just said you had 983 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: L L L here. 984 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: Right. 985 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 3: Elle's dropping the album been doing it for forty years. 986 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: Is he dropping the album to be relevant or is 987 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 2: he dropping an album because he's like, hey man, I'm 988 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 2: mis rapping. I'm about to just rap. Yeah, I want 989 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,479 Speaker 2: to rap and just rap. Show my fuckers I still 990 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: can rap. 991 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh, Lebron Lebron twenty one years in? 992 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: Is he playing because he's trying to be still relevant? 993 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 2: Or does he just love the game of basketball? Like what, 994 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 2: it's subjective as as to how you want to view it, 995 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, there was a there 996 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 2: was a time where before all the ship had happened, 997 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: when I was in Uh, I was in Montreal and 998 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 2: Bill Cosby was performing, sitting on the stool performance. It's like, 999 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 2: you still love comedy, granted, like I said, it's before 1000 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: all the shit. It's like if you love something and 1001 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: you just want. 1002 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 4: To be old and do the thing you love cool, 1003 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: It's I think it's subjective as to how you view it, 1004 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 4: and I think you can find so much joy and 1005 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 4: happy and being what you are, doing what you love 1006 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 4: and getting older while doing it and embracing the younger 1007 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 4: environment of people that are doing it. 1008 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely embracing the younger generation. Like I have nothing 1009 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: but love for this dope ass new wave of comedic 1010 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: talent that we're witnessing today. 1011 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: Like there's no competition. 1012 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 2: You home to me, like there's no competition, Like when 1013 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 2: when I see the Drew Skis, the KUIs, the the 1014 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 2: Desi Banks, the b Simons, the just hilarious, uh, the 1015 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 2: pretty v fuck Man, Carlos eighty five, all these guys 1016 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: and there's so many to name. Matt Rife, who. 1017 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 3: I just talked about as well. 1018 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I can I can go down a crazy list. Uh, 1019 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 2: Mulaney who's doing great, Ryan Davis another funny one like 1020 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: there's so many funny people out out there, and the 1021 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: world of stand up comedy has gotten so big Andrew crushing. 1022 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: It's dope as fuck to watch people crush. It's dope 1023 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 2: as fuck to watch people find success, and guess what, 1024 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 2: it does nothing to mine. 1025 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't hinder. 1026 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: My level of success in any way, shape or form. 1027 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: And I think like people have a hard time realizing that. 1028 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 2: Right you don't ever see me Chris and Dave fight. 1029 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: Let's see his are you right? Me and Chris and 1030 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: Dave are actually so fucking close. Chris wal call me 1031 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 2: and go, keV you going on tour and I'll go, ah, 1032 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 2: not yet. He's like, don't lie, bitch, because I'm about 1033 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 2: to put these dates up and don't you announce it? And 1034 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 2: then we know, Chris, I would never. Okay, I got you, 1035 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: see what you're saying. Chris will always make sure it's this, Dave, 1036 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 2: what you're doing. I'm working on some shit. I ain't 1037 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 2: got nothing yet, but I will. All right, I'm gonna 1038 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 2: go up around this time. We make sure we communicate, 1039 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: We we coexist because we're not against one another, like 1040 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: we want to see each other flourish. 1041 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: That's why it should be people at the topic, collaborating, 1042 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: people at the bottom of compete. 1043 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: It's and by the way, when we go and we're 1044 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: down here with the younger generation, it should be nothing 1045 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 2: but embracing. 1046 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: You said you wanted Kay to play you in a movie. Ye, 1047 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: Are you were any of your son's pissed off about that? No? 1048 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 2: No, although my son, my son is in uh this 1049 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 2: next fathletic spot that it did, he's showing his acting chops. 1050 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm put him in a fat letic spot. I told 1051 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 2: Kyle that because everybody says like Ky and I have 1052 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: the same energy, and you know, Kyle wants to Kyle 1053 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: wants to act. He's saying like, at some point he 1054 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: wants to get into it. And I love that. I 1055 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: love that he's already looking at bigger pictures. I love 1056 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: that he's making his money. I love that he has 1057 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 2: his thing, and you know, I'm gonna figure out ways 1058 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: to do that thing with him. And you know, even 1059 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: even when I talk about comics, right like the Plastic coupleoys, 1060 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 2: when I talk about Spank, I talk about Naim, I 1061 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 2: want to talk about Joey, Like these guys have been 1062 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 2: headlining for a long time and being established in comedy. 1063 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 2: That's a very hard thing. It's a very hard thing 1064 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 2: to be established in stand up comedy like this is 1065 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about uh a contractor like mentality at work. 1066 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: It's you know, you gotta eat what you killed. So 1067 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: without audiences, you got no got no revenue. You got 1068 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 2: to figure out where to go and where to hustle 1069 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: up to get the money. We're talking about a bunch 1070 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 2: of people who have figured it out. I applauded that 1071 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,479 Speaker 2: at the highest level. 1072 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of eating right, it's fight night. Was the strange 1073 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: doing that sex scene with Trog and was baby Boy 1074 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: in any inspiration behind it? No, it was what I 1075 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: did you study Tyres and baby Boy when he did that? 1076 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 2: No, they really they really didn't sex scene. They really 1077 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 2: like Tyrense and t really did a sex scene. Like 1078 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: they had a lot of ship to do in that scene. 1079 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: The story of that scene told so much. You had 1080 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: flashbacks that she had to go through. It was a lot. 1081 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 3: There was a lot that went into that. I mean, 1082 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 3: tease my sister. 1083 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 2: So I minimalized it to where you know, we don't 1084 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 2: we don't have to get that active and we don't 1085 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 2: have to do that much and I think you know. 1086 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 2: And in any project, it's all about the story that 1087 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: you're trying to tell. And if men Taraji had to 1088 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 2: tell a different side of a story for the purpose 1089 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: of the the IP and and to set up the 1090 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 2: future thing that's gonna happen, Okay, yeah, you can go there. 1091 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 2: But the relationship between Viv and Chicken Man is one 1092 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 2: of her being this down ass chick and has rolled 1093 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: with him and will ride with him for anything. Our 1094 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: sexual relationship isn't the highlight. It isn't stronger than you 1095 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 2: saying I got him and I know he got me. 1096 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: So how do we how do we make sure we 1097 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 2: told that line? 1098 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 3: And that's also within. 1099 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 2: The creative I haven't had to do anything crazy like 1100 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 2: that and any project that I've done to date, And 1101 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 2: if you don't have to, you don't. You don't need to, 1102 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: right It's like, once again, I'm the creator. I'm on 1103 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 2: the side with the writers and the stuff, and they. 1104 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 3: Do have something in there. If they're seeing keV this. 1105 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: When you got to eat eat ass, why you don't 1106 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: have to Anyways? 1107 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: I love the Chicken Man character. Is it fair to 1108 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: label the Chicken Man character a bad guy? Or is 1109 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: he just a product of his environment. 1110 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 2: He's not only a product of his environment. He's a 1111 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 2: he's a definition of a real entrepreneur. And sometimes as 1112 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, your vision as a visionary can't be seen 1113 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 2: by everybody is everybody doesn't do what you do. So 1114 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Chicken Man can be seen as a guy that makes 1115 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: bad decisions. But the people that are part of all 1116 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 2: of his decisions know it's hard. They know they know 1117 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 2: his won they know it's real, his real initiative and 1118 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 2: what he's willing to do to get there, and why 1119 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 2: some can be a part of it and some can't, 1120 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: And why some can know this and some can't. Like 1121 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: if you know him, you're gonna love him. 1122 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 3: If you don't know me. 1123 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: You hear about him, you're intrigued to know what it 1124 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 2: is and why he's been Like, I found a lot 1125 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 2: of similarities with Chicken Man, which is why I wanted 1126 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 2: to do it. 1127 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 3: The road to greatness is the road that everybody can't 1128 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 3: be on. 1129 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 2: And a lot of people got left behind on Chicken 1130 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Man's road, and those that fucking stayed and made it 1131 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: through the storm, they all saw the value at the 1132 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 2: end of it. 1133 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Did Terrence, how will try to explain any of his 1134 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: math to you. 1135 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 2: I told Terrence, I love them, but I'm not I'm 1136 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: not your customer. I love it. 1137 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 3: I love terror. 1138 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 2: I think there's one of the most talented people to 1139 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 2: ever goddamn touch that acting stage like he is a 1140 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: bad mother when it comes to action and cut Terrence 1141 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 2: will do whatever it is that you needed to be done. 1142 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Uh stand character. Yeah, we know why he was wearing. 1143 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 2: To win everybody else. Yeah, but you know when he 1144 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: when he starts to talk about the stuff, he's really 1145 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 2: into that ship like that's his that's his ship. But 1146 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 2: you have to You just gotta be honest with people 1147 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 2: right out the gate. And I'm I'm not just customer. 1148 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm not going to retain this. 1149 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: So what are you say. I'm not trying to tell 1150 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you nothing. I'm just trying to explain it. 1151 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 2: He said, Kevin, you're still gonna listen. I just had 1152 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 2: to sit there and then when he got done, I 1153 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I see what I'm saying. 1154 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Last question, do you think you were born already destined 1155 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to be who you are today or was this version 1156 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: of you molded and crafted along this amazing journey. 1157 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 2: You molded crafted? 1158 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,439 Speaker 3: I would love to to. 1159 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: Sit the fairy tale and. 1160 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Do the traditional live absolutely Scott's I think. 1161 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: I think I'm beyond blessed to have the support and 1162 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: family that I had in coming up, the mother that 1163 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 2: I had, and the support came from like me not knowing. 1164 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 2: A lot of people, a lot of people come down 1165 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 2: on that younger child that don't know. I don't know, man, 1166 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 2: school ain't for me. 1167 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: What you gonna do. 1168 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people call it that guy or that 1169 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 2: girl loser, or you know, you ain't doing it right. 1170 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 2: You ain't taking life serious, you ain't thinking everybody has. 1171 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 2: Everybody has a different legenda when it comes to time 1172 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 2: and when things click versus when they don't. If you 1173 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 2: take my mom's level of support away from me not knowing, 1174 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: I would have never discovered the thing that I fell 1175 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 2: in love with. Like I didn't go to school with 1176 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 2: the purposely say I'm stopping because I'm about to start comedy. 1177 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 2: I discovered it. It was it was an accident, it 1178 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 2: wasn't on purpose. In conversation, care you should do it, 1179 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 2: should try to amate you to night. Okay, the discovery 1180 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 2: I fell in love with the new idea of the 1181 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 2: thing that I could do I love this thing. I 1182 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 2: love this feeling. Now that I'm excited, all of the 1183 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 2: energy and effort that I have it can go into 1184 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 2: something that I actually am excited about. Without that excitement, 1185 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 2: without that light bulb, A lot of people struggle with 1186 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 2: the first step. It wasn't until I got my light bulb. 1187 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 2: I hit the ground running. And then after that and 1188 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 2: seeing your result of hard work pay off, well, you 1189 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: attach that same effort and energy because you know what 1190 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 2: it feels like to put one hundred percent into something 1191 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 2: and then see it work. So what I am and 1192 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 2: who I am today and where I'm at absolutely not. 1193 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: But now that I am here, I do feel like 1194 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 2: it's my job to be as best of an example 1195 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 2: as I can be for the next generation to do 1196 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 2: more and surpass right. 1197 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Like. 1198 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,479 Speaker 3: This shouldn't be it for who's to. 1199 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 2: Come and what's to come next. I'm just a version 1200 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 2: of new I was able to do. Like, here's what 1201 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: I was able to do. But when I'm fucking fifty five, 1202 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: god willing in sixty, I would love to see the 1203 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 2: next version in position to do more or prepared to 1204 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 2: do more. 1205 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Well, you're making it easier for the next generation. 1206 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 3: Kevi, I appreciate you man. 1207 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Keep growing my brother. 1208 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 3: Great talk, great great dialogue. 1209 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Yea