1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V. Charlamagne the guy. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club Laura la Rossa as our 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 4: guest host. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 4: miss former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Welcome, it's good to be home. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: Welcome back. How are you feeling? 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: You look amazing? Man, you can I get up. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: I just will let you know. Charlomage throw shots at 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: everybody because of you. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: One of the producers came back. 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 4: It was like, you know, Neda turn this here and 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: she's looking amazing and Charlamage was like, well, that's because 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: she's in the gym. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Eat well a shot. 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Let me give a shout out to my trainer, Derek 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: Goddale from d d T Dereck Dondale Training in Cleveland, Ohio. 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: They help and be holded. 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Is Lauren? Is it alright? Is it alright? What made 21 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: you want to go down that path of you know, 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: getting right physically because we need it. You know, you 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: talk a lot about mental health and it's all it 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: all goes together, mental health, physical health and dorphins you 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: get And I didn't want to hurt nobody. So I 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: got to get in there. My trainer is also a 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: boxer too, So I get on the bag to DJ 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and I picture all kinds of lowering, all kinds of faces. 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: That's trying to hurt nobody. 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Out just a little bit. 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: Work out every day, almost every day. Yes, seventy percent 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of it is what you eat. And he tells me 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: that all the time. Now I had gotten smaller than 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: what I am now, and he was a little concerned 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: about it. So he did tell him to go eat 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: some fridfish front fries. Get that back up, because I 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: had lost my sister. Girl, you know too much. But 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: he was joking. I mean, he was just saying, hey, 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: you you you're getting a little too small. So he's 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a good trainer. It's not just about it's about how 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: you feel. He knows each and every one of his 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: clients in a deep way. He knows when you're not 43 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: feeling right. He knows when something is every single client, 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: not just me, And I think that's a special gift. 45 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: He's a gifted man. I have to bring them the 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: next time. 47 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, people have bonds with trainers that that a lot 48 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: of people don't see because they have that time, and 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: they're there for an hour or two hours, and they're 50 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: talking not just about training, but about life as. 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, holistic exactly everybody. So as we I know, everybody's 52 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: gonna be eating, you know, from Thanksgiving through New Years, 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: but we gotta keep it together and every This is 54 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: for everybody, but especially black people because we go through 55 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: so much. And your your health is ultimately your wealth. 56 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: And it is spiritual. It is physical, it's mental, it's 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But working out it's not just 58 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: about weight loss or toning. It's psychological too. It keeps 59 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: you sharp. 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad because you know, next year is a 61 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: presidential election. 62 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Years on, everybody you said Biden shouldn't win, I shouldn't run, 63 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna win, But anybody you said he shouldn't run. 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean that's but that's why I think he shouldn't run, 65 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: because he's not going to win. 66 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: He's not gonna win. You know, I wish he was 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: just running the primary. Can we just start with the primary, 68 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: at least running the primary, because we have a primary 69 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: that the d N is refusing to acknowledge because both parties, 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: when you have an incumbent, they pretend like competitors don't exist. 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: Primaries are for us to have a robust debate a 72 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: boy about ideas, and if, in fact then Cumban is 73 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: the strongest candidate, then that will come out in the 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: wash too. It's kind of like training. Why not you 75 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: got Mary Anne Williamson running as a Democrat, You got 76 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Janke Huger running as a Democrat. You got doctor Cornell 77 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: West running as an independent. I think doctor Cornell West 78 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: and also Robert Kennedy Junior should be on both stages, 79 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: but minimally they should be on the Democratic stage. And 80 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: then you got Congressman Dean Phillips who has jumped in 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the race running as a Democrat. If your ideas are 82 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: all that, then to bake them out in the primary 83 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: so that things can come out in the wash, so 84 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: that you're ready for the main event. But the Democrats 85 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: have decided they don't want to do that, and so 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: now they have anointed Biden as the air parent. Just 87 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: because the incumbent don't mean you entitled to a second term. 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: And that's him or anybody else that goes for me 89 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: or any other politician. You got to earn the vote 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: each and every time. 91 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: What would say the people who say none of those 92 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: people you name have a chance in hell of win. 93 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Well they won't have a chance in hell to win 94 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: if people don't know that they're running. And the media 95 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: is very important, and that's what I love so much 96 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: about the Breakfast Club because you guys give audience to everybody, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, 97 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: no party, rock and roll, cock, you know, R and B, whatever, 98 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: however you rolling because people need to know those other 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: people are running. And if people want to know why 100 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: governors are not running right now, you know, like the 101 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: governor of California who just debated DeSantis in Florida, Well 102 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: he not running because he needs to play the game 103 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: so he can be ready for twenty twenty eight. If 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: he runs, or any of these governors run, they see 105 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: they don't have to courage to buck the system to 106 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: say that we are in peril. Seventeen polls have shown 107 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: President Biden losing. Now, I get it, polls are snapshots 108 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: in time. But this is turning into a polaroid picture. 109 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: I know I'm dating myself now, but this snapshot is 110 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: becoming more than a snapshot, is becoming a very clear picture. 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Most Americans do not want to see a rematch between 112 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden and former President Donald J. Trump. Are 113 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: the facts. 114 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: That's scary though. 115 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I just want to say 116 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: polaroids back and my daughter asked for. But you know, 117 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: that's very scary when you have everybody, politicians, regular people 118 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: saying that they don't have faith in Joe Biden. 119 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: What does that mean? Or people are gonna go out 120 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: or we're just gonna give this to Donald Trump. 121 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: It's not given though, DJ. It's it's a competition. So 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I need people to understand this. Politicians are not old anything. 123 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I need to come and ask you for your vote. 124 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: I need to lay down what I did for you, 125 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, as Miss Jackson asked and one of her songs, 126 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately? You don't owe 127 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: me as the politician, I owe you. And to think 128 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: that President Biden is the best or the only thing 129 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: that we have. He ain't the savior, you know, And 130 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: I would say this about any candid. Everybody knows I 131 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: rock with you know, I rocked with Senator Bernard Sanders. 132 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Who is you know supporting Joe Biden? For me, it's 133 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing for my people? What are you 134 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: doing for the people in the hood where they misunderstood. 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: What are you doing for working class people of all 136 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: backgrounds in this country? You let the shadow president, you know, 137 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: hijack your bill back better. We ain't built back nothing better. 138 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Then you got billions of dollars to send over the war. 139 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Janet yelling the secretary. The Treasury secretary when she was asked, 140 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: can we afford we Americans afford two wars? She said, oh, yeah, 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: we can afford it. So if we can afford two wars, 142 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: then we could afford the enhance to keep the enhanced 143 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: child tax credit. If we can afford two wars, and 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: why don't y'all go hund and cancel all student debt 145 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: and then put a mechanism in place so that kind 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: of debt doesn't happen to college students again. If we 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: can afford two wars, and baby, we can afford universal 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: health care. If we can afford two wars, and damn it, 149 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: black people want their reparations. That's all I'm saying. Hey, 150 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: charity starts at home and spreads abroad. I'm not saying, 151 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: don't help any of our allies. But we got people 152 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: dying in the streets of America right now for the 153 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: lack of resources. But they got the pure unadulterated golf 154 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: to say, we ain't got money for domestic issues. What 155 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: about domestics, tranquility, that's part of it too. So people 156 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: fed up DJ they just all they gonna say. I 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: don't think people are going I know there's a poll 158 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: that says that about twenty two percent of black people 159 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: are gonna go over to Trump. Maybe they will, maybe 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: they won't, but I think most people are just not 161 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna vote. 162 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say. 163 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: Question for you, do you feel like though, because of 164 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: the people that you mentioned, like the cornal us Is 165 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: and other people that are running on that side, they 166 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: don't have the platform is not there, And as sad 167 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: as it is, people don't a lot of stuff you're 168 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: talking about. People go and vote just because of who 169 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: they're hearing about on social who has the biggest campaign, 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: So what's the real like, what do they do? How 171 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 5: do they even get next to Biden has the platform, 172 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: he's a president right now. 173 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, the incumbany is always going to have the upper hand. 174 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: That's the system. But we live in a time where 175 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: maybe you can google everything. I mean, people got to 176 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: study to show themselves approved. But media is a powerful force, 177 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: and you all know that because you hold a modicum 178 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: of power. To the extent that mainstream media continues to 179 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: lock out these people on then you're right, most people 180 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: may never hear them. I think doctor Cornell West has 181 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: somewhat advantage because he's an internationally known philosopher, you know, 182 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: international known intellectual. So a lot of people cross generations 183 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: definitely know doctor Cornell West. Now they might not get 184 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: to know that he's running for president, but he's running, 185 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: and the same for all the other people. I think 186 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Congressman Phillips may have an advantage because he is a congressman. 187 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: He got that fancy title right now. But the mainstream 188 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: media is not supposed to be calling these politicians. They're 189 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: supposed to open up the airways for everybody and let 190 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: the games begin, let's compete for this stuff, and so 191 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: it is shameful that that is not happening. 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 2: I think you know what's interesting to me, Senator Turn 193 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: is people are using logic for elogical times, right, because 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: even when you bring up the polls, people will say, well, 195 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: you know, polls aren't always accurate. It's not even just 196 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: the polling he's polling terribly against a man who has 197 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: ninety one criminal charges for indictments to impeachment. It shouldn't 198 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: be closed. It shouldn't be close a man who said 199 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: he wants to be a dictator, like, it shouldn't be close. 200 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: And why people are like, maybe you need to step aside. 201 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: That's why David Axlerod is saying, hey, maybe you need 202 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: to step aside. 203 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: We can't risk it and not be selfish. I think 204 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: for both of these men they can run. Right. We 205 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: know age is a factor, but I think age is 206 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: connected to economics, how people are feeling about their personal economies. 207 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: I know that the system. You look at the stats 208 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and they'll saying, oh, the economy is doing better, but 209 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: is it doing better for big Mama? Is it doing 210 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: better for Big Daddy? Are they feeling it? Because the economy, 211 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: the measures that we use to say that our economy 212 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: is healthy is based already on a rig system. In 213 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: other words, the system leans towards those who have the 214 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: greatest wealth. But if big Mama and Big Poppa can't 215 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: afford the eggs or the gas everything is going up, 216 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: then damn what the numbers say on paper. We need 217 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: to know what is happening for them in their real 218 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: lives now? The point about the polling again snapshots, we 219 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: get it. But unless Democrats make some real, deep seated changes, 220 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: all them poles can't be wrong. I mean, it's like 221 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: dropping bread crumbs. It's telling us something. And so both 222 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: of those men can run, right, they are allowed to run. 223 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I won't say that they shouldn't have the ability to run, 224 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's selfish that they are running. In 225 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: other words, that's the best we can do in this 226 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: country is to have a rematch between two presidents that 227 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: most Americans do not want, and even Democrats. If you 228 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: look at President Biden, most Democrats do not want Joseph R. 229 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Biden as the candidate. So he's not the only one. 230 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: He's the only one that the system is elevating in 231 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: such a way that it's locking out other people who 232 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: would be logical choices to run. And then you got 233 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a few courageous people who have been in this studio 234 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: who I just named, who are out there in saying 235 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: damn that I'm running anyway. 236 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: Would you like to see? 237 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Well me actually? But ain't nobody better? But I'm not 238 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: running right now? I love doctor Cornell West. I think 239 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: he got the moral courage and the moral fire right now. 240 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: And then my other choice, if I could vote for 241 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: two people for the people that are running right now, 242 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: be Mary Ann Williamson. Those two are out there doing 243 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: the Dagon thing, and doctor West has definitely made the 244 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: requess of sacrifices to be running in this race. For 245 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence's point is well taken. You know he won't get 246 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: he well, I won't say he won't get the OXI 247 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be harder. I think it's positioning. 248 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to ask you this, does it 249 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: ball do like what Lauren said, where people are so 250 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: stuck in the way of I'm born Democrat, I vote Democrat. 251 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm born Republican, I'm a vote Republican, and I'm not 252 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: voting it independent because that's the way that I've been 253 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: doing it, my parents been doing it, my grandparents been 254 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: doing it. And it's kind of like we're stuck in 255 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: a z own. I know, I know a lot of 256 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: people that just go to the thing like Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, 257 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: don't even knowho they voting for it. 258 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: Just Democrats, especially judges. 259 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: Judges really get a free pass and then main ones 260 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: we need to check out because they got the ability 261 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: to keep you out free or lock you up. No, 262 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: it does bother me. But when you know better, you 263 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: should do better. 264 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: You know, there's a. 265 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: Scripture in the Christian Bible. World Paul said, you know, 266 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: when I was a child, I did childish things. Right, 267 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: It's time for us to grow up and do the research. 268 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: We have more technology at our disposal than any other general, 269 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: so it really it's no excuse. I used to do that. 270 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say vote for so and so and so on, 271 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote. But then I'm matured and I started 272 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to do the research and now it's not that hard. 273 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: So yes, DJ, it does bother me that people are 274 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: just going just just flapping in the wind instead of 275 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: doing the study and then asking these politicians, really, what 276 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: have you done? Not that you like them, not that 277 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: you want to have a beer with them, not that 278 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you would club with them, because I like a lot 279 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: of people, but what have you done with the power 280 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: that you have to change the conditions for the people 281 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: who suffer the most in this country? If you haven't 282 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: done anything, then why am I voting for you? And 283 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: then people say the lesser the two evils. Well, you 284 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: know what, sometimes people just gonna throwup their hands and say, damn, 285 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna vote for straight up evil because I 286 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: already know lesser too. Evil ain't get me none, so 287 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: I might as well go go all the way and 288 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: just go for evil. 289 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Do you think Palestine and Israel is gonna have a 290 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: real impact on President Inviden Because I hear a lot 291 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: of people in Michigan, especially Muslim Americas in Michigan, say 292 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: the ain't not rocking with them voting for showing up 293 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: like it will. 294 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think people are gonna change their minds 295 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Now we haggling over Medicare for all, and you don't 296 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: do it, then I may just go ahead and vote 297 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: for you anyway and keep fighting you to try to 298 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: get it. But now we're talking about the slaughter of 299 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: innocent people in Gaza. Let's talk about the slaughter of 300 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Palestinian people in the West Bank. That's not even talked 301 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: about a lot. But you got eighteen thousand people dead, 302 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: you got about forty two thousand or so people maimed 303 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: or injured. You got sixty percent of the Gaza has 304 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: been just blown up. So imagine being a son or 305 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: daughter or a person from Gaza. Imagine being a Palestinian. 306 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: And if you live, what do you have? You know, 307 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: I saw a picture of a she probably was five 308 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: or six year zeros old, a Palestinian young girl. She's 309 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: shaking like a leaf, traumatized. 310 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: That's trauma. 311 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: And if you have children, or you know somebody who 312 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: have children, imagine that that was your children. Oh yeah, 313 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: the Middle East is going to be blood is on 314 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the hands of the United States of America. There's a 315 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: law called the Lahy Law. And in that law, that 316 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: law was put in place in nineteen ninety six. The 317 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: law said that we in America should not be given 318 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: funds to military operators who we know are violating human rights. 319 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Just slaughtering innocent people to get at Hamas, I think 320 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: is a violation of human rights. You got Netting Yahoo 321 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen said that under his watches, under his watch, 322 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: there would never be a Palestinian state. So now, how 323 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: as a Palestinian, what am I gonna do with that? 324 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: If we take harmas yeah, evil vile, what they did 325 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: immoral and illegal under international law. Let's deal with that. 326 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: But eighteen thousand Palestinians dead, forty two or so thousand 327 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: maimed and injured. Their entire world is in ruble. If 328 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: we don't have a cease fire, how we ever gonna 329 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: get to peace? And then the mental impact on the 330 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: people who survive on what just happened to them. That 331 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: girl shaking, that baby shaken, is many like her. What 332 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: is she gonna think growing up? You think she gonna 333 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: be in love with the system. No, she's not. And 334 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: so the keep is really safe. Palestinian's gotta have self 335 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: determination to keep Palestinian safe, Israeli's got to have self determination. 336 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: But they do. They control the water, the electricity. So 337 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: we're not looking at this in a way that's very holistic. 338 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: The UN has said this, you know, don't do this. 339 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: Many of the human rights organizations across the world said, 340 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: don't do this. All I want to know is how 341 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: many people gotta die before we realize that you can't 342 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: war your way to peace. 343 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know sender that Bernie Sanders is on this 344 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: weekend and he said that we have to stop giving 345 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Israel a blank. 346 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Check without condition. 347 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to stop giving them a blank check 348 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: for it so they can stop killing innocent, you know, 349 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: civilians and children, And I feel like, man, why aren't 350 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: people talking about that more like that point, because everybody 351 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: was focused on him saying we can't have a permanent 352 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: ceasefire with people who want permanent war. You think you 353 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: think it's justified. But the flag he's getting, the back 354 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: like he's getting for this. 355 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Some of this stuff is incongruent. Now I'm with the 356 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Senator on don't just give Israel or any other country 357 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: just a blank check? Are we paying for You know, 358 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: my mama say I pay I paid for this. You 359 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: live in my house. I pay everything, So you gonna 360 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: do what I say? 361 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Do you know? 362 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: The same thing applies here if America took a moral 363 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: position on this to say, you know what, I get it. 364 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: What Hamas did was rotten, evil, wicked. Hey, go after 365 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Hamas surgically. But there comes a point where there are 366 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: too many bodies laying and wake, how many more bodies? 367 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I just want to how many more bodies it's gonna take. 368 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: So although I appreciate Senator Bernard Sanders saying don't just 369 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: give Israel blank check, but at the same time, the 370 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Senator don't want a permanent Ceasepore. So how do we 371 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: get to permanent peace? At some point, people got to 372 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: stop the shooting and the bombing. And most of those 373 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: bombs are coming from Israel. They in our name, those 374 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: bombs are made over here. It's our money. So we 375 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: are culpable for the deaths of the Palestinians. And you 376 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: know what, it's not only gonna impact you and you 377 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: and you mean, it's gonna impact our children, our children children. 378 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: See now you're messing with my stuff now. And all 379 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the money that we send over there, whether it's over 380 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: there or in the Ukraine, is less money that we 381 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: have to have universal health care, canceling student that you know, 382 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: name the things that we need. Water systems help Flint, 383 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Michigan still got dirty water. The Democratic Secretary Attorney General 384 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: in Michigan dropped the case. So now you got people 385 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: who live in Flint who just got to live with it. 386 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: And I can go on and on and on. What 387 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: are we gonna do on the domestic side of the Ledger? 388 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: And Israel certainly is our ally, Israel has a right 389 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: to exist, Israel has a right to protect itself. And 390 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: what about the Palestinians? Because I learned in math, you 391 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: know what you do on one side, you got to 392 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: do on the other. So what about the Palestinians? And 393 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: what about the innocent Palestinians? Over fifty percent of those 394 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: people are our kids. Is a very young community. They 395 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Hamas, So at what point? How many bodies? 396 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I just want to know how many bodies? So look, 397 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: I get it, but you gotta have a ceasefire. I 398 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: don't know how you get the peace without a ceasefire. 399 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: And then how do we get to a permanent piece 400 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: where Palestinians have self determination? I want our viewers and 401 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: listeners to know they don't control electricity, they don't control food, 402 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: they don't control water, they don't control all of that. 403 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: So how can you control your livelihood when you can't 404 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: control the basics? Maslow's hierarchy you need is in play here, 405 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: and so we got to put ourselves in that place. 406 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Remember Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior not the only one, 407 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: but he is the symbol for it. As long as 408 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: he was talking about civil rights for black people, it. 409 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Was all good. 410 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: But when the Reverend Doctor started talking about the Vietnam War, 411 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: they all hold on, brother, hold on you done, got 412 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: out your depths. Now we ain't gonna allow you to 413 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: talk about that. 414 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: That's the same he communist, that's it. 415 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: That's the same thing happening right now. We got to 416 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: stand up for humanity because that but by the grace 417 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: of God, that could be any of us. So, no 418 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: indiscriminate killing of Israeli, no indiscriminate killing a Palestinians. And 419 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: when you hear a baby cry, until you look at 420 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: that baby, you don't know what their race or ethnicity is. 421 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: All you know is that you're hearing a baby cry. 422 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: You have a new worker power organization called Somebody. 423 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: We are somebody. 424 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: I came in here with four of them, would never 425 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: put them down. 426 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, we are somebody. Yeah. 427 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: So workers' rights should be codified into legislation, strike without fear, 428 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: rebuild the middle class. 429 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Unions do matter. One job should be enough to 430 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: one job should be enough people working. I remember when 431 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: I was growing up, an extra job was an extra job, absolutely, 432 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: But now an extra job is mandatory because of the 433 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: way the economy is rocking. You know, Seeing the End 434 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: did a poll and they basically ask people, you know, 435 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: how you feeling about the economy In twenty twenty at 436 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: the height of COVID, people you know, were saying, oh, 437 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling pretty good. Twenty twenty three, they're 438 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: not feeling good. And you know why they're not feeling 439 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: good despite what the economic indicators say. They're not feeling 440 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: good because those safety net measures that we did during 441 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: COVID take it away. They're gone. So people are not 442 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: feeling good about the economy right now. Working class people, 443 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: and I mean all working class people from all strata. 444 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Some people may be in the six figure range and 445 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: some people may be, you know, just barely making it. 446 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: But baby, we all working class unless you got a 447 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: sugar mama or sugar daddy or sugar somebody. And I 448 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: don't mind having that, you know. 449 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: Some day just put that out there. 450 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: But I'm a working woman and I'm blessed. But working 451 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: class people got to come together, and that's what we 452 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: are Somebody is about. It is a capacity building organization 453 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: for working class people, whether they're unionized or not, because 454 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: people deserve to live a good life, and you shouldn't 455 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: have to be ultra wealthy to live a good life. 456 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: Are you pushing to change things like the forty all work. 457 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Week forty our work. We get a Friday's off working 458 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: with a group one fair wage ran by an extraordinary 459 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: young woman. First name is sarru. I hope to get 460 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: her on the breakfast club, but she is. Her organization is. 461 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: Next year there'll be thirteen states that they target. Five 462 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: of those states will have valid initiatives. The others of 463 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: the states will have legislative initiatives, and that is to 464 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: do away with the sub minimum wage. I don't think 465 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: people understand the history of the sub minimum wage is 466 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: really to mess over black women. Bring you them where 467 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: that industry said black women theywn deserve to be paid, 468 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: let them get tips. So now you gotta get your 469 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: money based on the largest of somebody that's coming into 470 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: the restaurant. And one thing that Syrue said, what they 471 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: meant for evil for black women, now reverberate to everybody, 472 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: because now everybody in that industry submit and wage. The 473 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: average wages about two dollars and some change. You may 474 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: live in a state where it might be a little higher. 475 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: But every time we go to a restaurant, those people 476 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: who are serving us our meals are depending on us 477 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: to give them a tip to supplement their wages. And 478 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: that should not be. So that's one example of a 479 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: project that we are. Somebody's going to work on the 480 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: legislative side, because if you change legislation, helping unions is 481 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. It only helps those members, and that's good. 482 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: If we want to enlarge that territory, then we got 483 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: to do ballot initiatives because laws do matter, and put 484 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: laws in place that do away with the sub minimum wage. 485 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine somebody as hard as some people working 486 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: only making two dollars and some change. That's crazy, you know, 487 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: and I cannot believe we're still talking about this in 488 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: the twenty first century. Those are the kinds of things 489 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: that you know, President Joseph ar Biden and this Congress 490 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: could be doing. When they had the opportunity to increase 491 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: the federal minium wage from seven dollars and twenty five cents, 492 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: they decided not to. You remember, they did a hard 493 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: pass and they blamed it on the parliamentarian. They could 494 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: have done that. That's when the Democrats controlled both chambers 495 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and they didn't. They didn't do that. The Proact didn't 496 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: do that. George Floyd didn't do that. 497 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was gonna say, so you talked about 498 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 4: the safety net, right, and with the safety net during COVID, 499 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 4: there was I mean, of course they were given they 500 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: were helping people out with their whether it was car 501 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: loan or mortgage or whatever it may. 502 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: Be, the PPP long PPP loans. 503 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: What will help people now? 504 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: Right? 505 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: Because you look at people losing their jobs. I was 506 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: telling Sheloman earlier one of the gaming companies just had 507 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: to get rid of eleven hundred people. Spotify just had 508 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: to get rid of people. So many people are losing 509 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: their jobs. Interest rates are at all time How people 510 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: can't buy houses or automobiles? 511 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: When you look at food, food costs through the roof. 512 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: If you ever look at a price of eggs or 513 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: some orange juice, or you're just normal things that people 514 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 4: would need to survive as expensive as ish? 515 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: What would how do people? What will people have to survive? 516 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: You already said that people are not getting paid in 517 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: the forty hour work week. 518 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: So what can be done? 519 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 4: And is that the reason why people are looking for 520 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: Trump and not buying because they feel like Trump are 521 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: sent out some more checks with his name on it 522 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. 523 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Is that some of that reason I'm gonna be flipped 524 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: for a minute. Poor people don't need eggs. They don't 525 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: get to eat eggs, you know. I mean that's basically 526 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: what is coming down to. Eggs costs more than chicken wings. 527 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Material conditions that people have to change the motive. People 528 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: vote when they hopeful and they ain't got nothing to 529 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: hope for it, They're not gonna go out and vote 530 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: what I believe. See, this is not about Trump, and 531 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: so this Trump derangement syndromas is blowing my mind. This 532 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: is more about who has the power right now and 533 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do about it. Yeah, you gonna keep 534 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: bringing up Trump, but Trump ain't been in office for 535 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: the last almost four years. So it really is up 536 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: to this administration and this Congress, Democrats and Republicans. We 537 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: ain't gonna let them Republicans off the hook for them. 538 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: They done showed themselves be just outright just just totally 539 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: lost their minds. But if we put them in the 540 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: parking lot, what substance things are Democrats doing other than 541 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: blaming Trump and telling people, oh my god, if you 542 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: vote for Trump in twenty twenty four is gonna be 543 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: the worst thing ever. People living in worse times right 544 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: now in this particular moment, did you asked me what 545 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: would be some of the fixes. First of all, this 546 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: Congress could restore the enhanced child tax credit that lifted 547 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: millions of children out of poverty. We lifted them out 548 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: of poverty, only to catapult them right back into poverty. 549 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: What sense does that make? It makes no s since whatsoever. 550 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: They could pass the pro Act so that workers can 551 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: organize without being retaliated against by the man or the 552 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: woman that runs the company store. They could do those things. 553 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: They could cancel all student debt right now. Again, the 554 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary said, we got enough money for two wars. 555 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Where there's a war brewing right hair in America against 556 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: everyday working class people. We need a social contract, We 557 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: need a humanitarian way, a human rights economy. And that's 558 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that I do at the New 559 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: School as a senior fellow, shout out to doctor Derrek Hamilton. 560 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: We need a human rights economy. And in that human 561 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: rights economy, it said that there are some basic things 562 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: that everybody should have. Health Care is another one. DJ. 563 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: If everybody had health care and it wasn't commodified, it 564 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: wasn't tied to a job, people would do all kinds 565 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: of creative things, but they can't because it's tied to 566 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: a job, underinsured and uninsured, So those are things. Inject 567 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: that money into the economy domestically and give people the 568 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: freedom of mind and body and soul and spirit that 569 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: they need and deserve. 570 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 5: I know you you talked about the middle class catching hell, 571 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: you talked about hopelessness right now. A lot of times 572 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 5: with me, I feel like when I have the political 573 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: conversations like this and voting, I have friends right now 574 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 5: they're saying they're not going to vote at all because 575 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 5: they're in that space that you're talking about. What do 576 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: you think is like the best thing for people? Like 577 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 5: how do you put that aside? And I mean, I 578 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: know what, it logically makes sense, like we need to 579 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 5: be able to get out vote, change the world and 580 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: all that, But the people that you're talking about, it 581 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 5: goes over their heads, like they don't feel like if 582 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 5: I vote, something's going to change. They're just tired of 583 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: what they're going through right now. What do you say 584 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 5: to those people? How do those people get that hope 585 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 5: back to feel like if we do this, things will 586 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: change local level, federal levels. 587 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I get that, Lord, I'm not one of 588 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: those politicians that say, you know, you don't have a right. 589 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: People have a right to feel the way that they feel. 590 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: But I would say you got to vote. Mad as hell, 591 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: still gotta vote. Everybody should vote. But this is especially 592 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: for black people. People literally died, and we are so 593 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: far removed from that generation. We don't teach it enough. 594 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: You know, Desantans don't want it taught at all, But 595 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: that don't stop us from going into our black churches 596 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: and doing it anyway. People literally die for it now, 597 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people because tesling, you know, would say, well, 598 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that that they die, but 599 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: they did. People died. And what she means by that 600 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: is sometimes that's not enough. And that's what you're saying too, Lauren. 601 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: You gotta be in it to win it. The game 602 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's either gonna happen to you or through you. Right, 603 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen to you or through you. It can 604 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: happen through you. By you getting out there to vote, 605 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: you can have a lot of impact on local elections, 606 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: probably even more so than the federal level. But all 607 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: elections matter. There's no such thing as an off year election. 608 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: So people mad as hell. I get it, but you 609 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: still need to go vote. But voting is just one 610 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: part of the process. You know, when our four parents 611 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: are fighting for the vote, they understood how pivotal it 612 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: will to give black people voice into who could represent them. 613 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: That's just one part. We now have to take that 614 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: to the next level and say, not only do you 615 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: have to vote, but you got to hold these people accountable. 616 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: You got to keep the score. And if they not 617 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: doing what they told you they were gonna do, damn 618 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: lesser of the two evils. Hey, I'm just gonna find 619 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 1: me another candidaten't vote because, as Big Mama will say, 620 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: I can show you better than I can tell you. 621 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: They just got to stop accepting it. So I get 622 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: the frustration. Voting is just one part of making the 623 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: change or being the change in your community. You got 624 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: to be actively involved all the time because justice is 625 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: not a destination, it is a journey. Too many people 626 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: don't want to make a sacrifice. We ain't talking about, 627 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, boy being in a Montgomery bus boycott for 628 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty one days. We just asked Laurens, people, 629 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: can't you just go to the poll and vote. That's 630 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: all we ask. We ain't got them kind of auction 631 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: block problems that our ancestors had, So why can't you 632 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: vote and be mad? 633 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Well, what if the I agree with everything you're saying, 634 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: But what if those people say, you know what, you're right, 635 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: but I want to vote conservative? 636 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: Vote anyway they want, which is that? Go however they want? 637 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Because again I believe politicians need to earn the vote. 638 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: We have conservative black people and I ain't mad at it. 639 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: You don't put all your eggs in one basket. We 640 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: got liberal black people. I'm a little mad at that 641 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: because I think the black bourgeois z or black moderates 642 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: are part of the reason that black people are catching hell. 643 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: And I'm writing I write a book about that charlot. 644 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: They get on mine too, the data ones. You know, 645 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about the white liberal, but we 646 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: don't talk about the black folks. Is standing in the 647 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: way of black liberation. Why isn't the black caucaus the 648 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: main people down there saying where is black people die 649 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: a higher rates? Where's the universal health care? What are 650 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: they doing now? I ain't talking about individual Black caucus members, 651 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: and they can bring me to smoke if they won't, 652 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: because I'll bring it back to them. But where is 653 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: that moral conscious It was a time when the Congressional 654 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: Black Caucus was the moral consciousness of the Congress. But 655 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: when you go to their little things, hell, they bought 656 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and paid for too, sponsored by, sponsored by, sponsored by, 657 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: So people should be able to vote for oh, they 658 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: vote too. As long as they vote. Now, it's my 659 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: job if I want you to vote for me, is 660 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: to try to convince you to do that. Now, it's 661 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: a lot harder. What I'm saying is easier said than done, 662 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: because then big money will come in right and tank 663 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: the whole process. We get that, But ultimately, I, as 664 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: a politician or a public servant, have a role to 665 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: play in that. So vote forever they want to vote for. 666 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Just go vote. 667 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: And you say you writing a book about. 668 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh, about how the black moderate is the biggest threat 669 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: to black liberation. Damn oh yeah, more than the white liberal. 670 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Because you know, Minister Malcolm X warned us about the 671 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: white liberal. Doctor King warned us about the about the 672 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: white liberal. But we have done very little study about 673 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the impact of black moderates on Black liberation. I'm coming 674 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: for them. 675 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: Why do you think they are stopping progress so much. 676 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Because they stand in the way Black faces and high places. 677 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: They ain't standing up for nothing, and they give people 678 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: shields to not do enough for black people. If you 679 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: ain't standing up for your own people. Being the one 680 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: that's preaching, preach, preaching, it's so giddy about being in 681 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: the damn room. They forgot why they're in there. Titles 682 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: are good, but purpose is better. We need purpose driven 683 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: people in those rooms, especially black because when and the 684 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: onus is not just on black people, but when we move, 685 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: foundations shape the world shakes and shapes. It changes. Civil 686 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: rights movement just one of many examples of how when 687 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: we move in a way that has an eye towards 688 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: justice in all of its forms, everybody gets it. We 689 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: got the move especially us, not only us, but especially us. 690 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: And if you see black people languages, if you see 691 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: a legal system that sees only black people because of 692 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: justice over there that y'all got over there, on that 693 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: she ain't blind. She see us all the damn time. 694 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: When you have a system that barrels down on one 695 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: group of people disproportionately than anybody else, somebody to say 696 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: this ain't right. And if the Congressional Black Caucus won't 697 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: say this ain't right. Why didn't you pass to George 698 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Floyd police and act this ain't right? Why didn't the 699 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: John Lewis Voting Rights law pass? Or why didn't you 700 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: Why wasn't y'all on table? See I'll get on the table, 701 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: but I want people to think this family show. But 702 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: you know why, why aren't you doing those things? Why 703 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: you ain't say gas up yet? Why didn't you stare 704 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: the shadow president down Joe Manchin and saying that hell 705 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: to the gnaw, you not gonna do it a way with 706 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: a hands child tax credit. I got too many poor 707 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: people and struggling people in my district. The moral consciousness 708 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: is lost, and that is what is happening. And they 709 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: try to guilt people in the voting for the people. 710 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: I ain't here to guilt you to vote for nobody 711 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: because I tell you what, if they not delivered, they 712 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: got the power. I got two toddlers in my life, 713 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: and I have higher expectations of them than we do 714 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: with these politicians. Oh, they didn't have enough of a majority, 715 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: But that ain't what y'all said. When y'all was running 716 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty you said give you the majority, you 717 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: was gonna make some things happen, and you didn't. What 718 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: are you willing to give up? I think a lot 719 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: of politicians, especially when lives and liveshoods are at stake, 720 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: you need to run like you're only gonna get one turn. 721 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: And baby, if I was running for president and I 722 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: got it, I'll be up in that piece like, hey, 723 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: they ain't gonna put me back in here. But I 724 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: tell you what they gonna know, Nina Turner, what's here? 725 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: And that's all we want somebody to. 726 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: Different. They running relax right now, They running real lax right. 727 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: Now, And that's all we want somebody to fight. And 728 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: those same black moderates, it will be like, ah, yes, 729 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: it's Congress, it's Congress, it's Congress. Congress will give Congress hell. 730 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: At least give Congress hell on behalf of the people. 731 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: But I know one thing that damn Trump say what 732 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: you want. He gonna give hit people hell if they 733 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: don't do his big. 734 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he let it be known. I mean the 735 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: difference between him is covert and overt. You know, these 736 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: other politics, they do it covertly. They want to be 737 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: They gonna come back in some folks. They gonna seek retribution. 738 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Trust me, I've been in the holies and holy but Trump, 739 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: make it plain. I'm coming for you. So now, difference 740 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: between the fox and the wolf. I know how to 741 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: deal with the wolf because you just told me exactly 742 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do in lieud the Fox. Yes, it's 743 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Trump a neo fascist. Is fascism dangerous? Yeah, it's a 744 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: difference between knowing that you got ten hours worth of 745 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: oxygen and not knowing at all. Maybe if I know, 746 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: I might be able to survive. So we gotta deal 747 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: with neo fascism. But don't forget neo liberalism, meaning keeping 748 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: the status quo breeds neo fascism. And so my party, 749 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: the Democrats, have to run like Trump is a clear 750 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: present danger and not put the onus on the voters 751 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: and not try to and don't y'all come in here 752 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: shaming black people when what's gonna go down in twenty 753 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: twenty because we gonna warrn you, And don't put it 754 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: on us because we vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, come hill 755 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: of high water, whether they do anything for us or 756 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: our children, our children's children. And I don't think that's 757 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: right either, we need to change that. But don't blame us. 758 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. We're not telling Biden not 759 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: to run because he losing the black vote. He's losing 760 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 2: the vote people. 761 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: The polls show every most Americans do not want to 762 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: see a rematch between these two presidents. But yetting still 763 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: they not doing what we asked. Other leaders would bubble 764 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: up to the top if they had space to do so. 765 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: But when you are within the machine, so learn if 766 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: you were you know, so Biden said, you decide you 767 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: want to run, If you run, then they gonna remember that, 768 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: see and then when it comes twenty twenty twenty eight, 769 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna punish you for challenging. So that's why you 770 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: have people like Newsome and some of these other you 771 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: know governors. And don't get me wrong, they're not the 772 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: only ones that's qualified to run. I'm just naming them 773 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: because in the trajectory of things, people really see, oh, 774 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: if they're a governor or you a senator, they should 775 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: be the one running. If they stepped out there to 776 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: run right now, then it's gonna be retribution against them 777 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. 778 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: Eight eight, we might not have a democracy. 779 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: I know that we might elections. Hell, the world might 780 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: not be here. That's another reason why we need to 781 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: go for peace. There is a ripple effect. Those of 782 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: you who played Domino, you understand how when the dominoes fall, 783 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: they fall. What's happening in the Middle East is happening 784 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: over here. In other words, none of us are going 785 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: to escape what is happening in the Middle East or 786 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: you crane. So let's talk about the continent of Africa. 787 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: What's happening in the condo. See, we don't talk about that, 788 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: what's happening in Haiti. All of that has a ripple 789 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: effect on each and every one of us. So that's 790 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: why I want peace. Peace ain't soft, piece is strong. 791 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: It takes a lot to want to have peace. I 792 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: want peace so I can have some Peacebody. I appreciate 793 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: you for I can listen to talk all day. Thank you, Lauren. 794 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: And I am going to go on your website and 795 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: get some of it so I can. 796 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: Must you have to change your whole wardrobe. 797 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I d oh, my God, DJ, but it was a 798 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: good it was a good Tell you baby. Can I 799 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: tell you how much I love you God? And I 800 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: feel that and I know that I got this Charlemagne 801 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: DJ Lauren, I mean you you create space for black people, 802 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: but I want to say, particularly create space for black 803 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: women of all ages and all stages. And I love 804 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: you for that. And I got to shout out my 805 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: my one of my advisors, Tansling Theero, she do it, don't. 806 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: But I just love y'all so much. I love our people, 807 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: I love all people. I love Black people, And the 808 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: reason why I want to see people lifted because I 809 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: want people to be able to live a good life. 810 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: I think everybody should be entitled to do that. Systems 811 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: can change, policies can change, and we got to make 812 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: sure it happens. So nothing butlove, Happy holidays. 813 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. 814 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 3: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 815 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.