Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, how's it going. I hope you're feeling good.
Speaker 1: I hope you're feeling energize. We got a very special
Speaker 1: bonus episode of Nerdificent, and I'm one of your hosts,
Speaker 1: and sitting across from me is Danny Fernandez, and today
Speaker 1: we are joined by comedian. He is the host of
Speaker 1: Clyder Movie Talk and one half of the Shmows. No.
Speaker 1: Mark ellis thank you guys for having me on this
Speaker 1: special bonus episode. Yeah, is this not a normal? Is
Speaker 1: it a bonus because I'm the bonus or is it
Speaker 1: just like, Hey, we do enough good content and we
Speaker 1: figured we just throw Mark a bone and let him
Speaker 1: come on here because he's just so desperate to talk.
Speaker 1: You're one of our few So we're recording this before
Speaker 1: the movie has officially dropped, and you and I and
Speaker 1: if you all got to see it early or earlier,
Speaker 1: and so you're one of our few friends um that
Speaker 1: got to see it. And Dorian actually was scheduled and
Speaker 1: then dropped out the last minute, So thanks for a backup.
Speaker 1: I was gonna know that. The thing is I know
Speaker 1: Mark so well because he's one of my best, absolute
Speaker 1: best friends. And Mark is so busy all of the time,
Speaker 1: so I try to not ask him for favors unless
Speaker 1: I need it. I'll be honest with you. I was home,
Speaker 1: I was watching the playoffs and the Cleveland Indiana game
Speaker 1: it just started, and then Danny text me and she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you come and do this? And I wrote it back.
Speaker 1: I was like, if there's nobody else, and I am,
Speaker 1: and so we asked Neil Radford and she was busy.
Speaker 1: So then Mark, well, you know what spoil alert the
Speaker 1: Calves lose, Like, let's just there. I'm gonna help you out,
Speaker 1: my guy. Yeah, I don't think he paused the game. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think I think Indiana might
Speaker 1: take it, but I think I think the Calves are
Speaker 1: Actually I think Lebron is just going to turn into
Speaker 1: full Dare we say than Os slash Ka mode based
Speaker 1: on who? Okay, so before we start saying anything of anything,
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler heavy review. Yeah, yeah, definitely don't
Speaker 1: listen to this if you don't want to hear spoilers
Speaker 1: at all, If you haven't seen the movie, don't listen
Speaker 1: to this. But before you hit that like pause and save,
Speaker 1: it will give one word just review without spoilers for
Speaker 1: people who are listening, and I'm like, oh crap, Oh,
Speaker 1: can we get three words? Three words? As Danny, who's
Speaker 1: the only one here that's seen it twice? Yeah, I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so three words for people who are getting ready to
Speaker 1: pause this and he're going to listen to it after
Speaker 1: three word review mine is wow, wow, wow, I love it.
Speaker 1: So you did just have one word? Somehows more of
Speaker 1: an impact if you say that one word three times? Um,
Speaker 1: I'll go so you can think about yours, Mark, Mine
Speaker 1: would be tremendously funny, exclamation point shocking that oh did
Speaker 1: you use the exclamation point? Deceparate people have been getting.
Speaker 1: So this is still spoiler free this top part. But
Speaker 1: when I was at the premiere, I had a lot
Speaker 1: of people messaging me like how was it? How was it?
Speaker 1: How was it? I was like, it was tremendously funny,
Speaker 1: and no one liked that answer. That was not what
Speaker 1: anyone wanted to hear. But it was tremendously funny, and
Speaker 1: I refuse to change my review. Anyways, Mark your three words?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, I had a nomination and then that
Speaker 1: one just got you served. So the nomination was just
Speaker 1: going to be Purple People Eaters um, which isn't really
Speaker 1: a spoiler because the Purple People Eaters for the Vikings
Speaker 1: in the seventies were good, but they never won a championships.
Speaker 1: You don't really know which way I'm going with that,
Speaker 1: so I'm simply gonna say my three words are M
Speaker 1: c U and what I mean by that are multiple
Speaker 1: climax is unfold. Oh cool, Okay, you really don't think
Speaker 1: about that, Thank god your nerd. I'm so moving forward, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is a spoiler heavy review. I really don't know which.
Speaker 1: I'll probably get into this with you, Mark, because you
Speaker 1: do so many reviews. I don't know how to talk
Speaker 1: about this film in general without spoilers. So I told
Speaker 1: if we're going to have to do spoilers because I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble, I don't want to
Speaker 1: piss anyone off, let's just do a spoiler heavy review.
Speaker 1: Well that was what was funny, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll just do a spoiler free review up until the bump,
Speaker 1: and then switched. I was like, everything that we want
Speaker 1: to talk about it would just feel so just bland
Speaker 1: because you're holding back, Like we'll talk about that next time,
Speaker 1: and then the thing happened that we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about next time, and people, to be fair, people have
Speaker 1: gotten trouble Forbes, gotten trouble for spoiling Variety people other critics.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, y'all can't help yourself because the thing
Speaker 1: is there's an embargo that they just ignored. You know that. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not only the embargo, but I think they did
Speaker 1: actually spoil things that happened in the film. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, there was a social media embargo that
Speaker 1: they usually do now with the huge movies, which means
Speaker 1: you can't even tweet about it until you see it.
Speaker 1: But that lifted like right after we got out of
Speaker 1: the premier. Can you get like tweet about it unless
Speaker 1: you had Sprint, at which point you couldn't twee it
Speaker 1: at all because you've got no service at the theater um.
Speaker 1: Such was the faith that befell me. So I had
Speaker 1: to wait until the next morning. But then three o'clock
Speaker 1: the next day is when the the embargo lifted. To
Speaker 1: review the movie. But obviously you don't want to spoil anything.
Speaker 1: And what I find interesting about these huge movies that
Speaker 1: everybody wants to see a review is that we hold back.
Speaker 1: At least with Schmos, we hold back more than we
Speaker 1: normally would a because we know we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a spoiler heavy review that we can when we can
Speaker 1: get into it. Also, it's because the same thing with
Speaker 1: like a Star Wars movie, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the guy that even hints it something that might
Speaker 1: ruin the movie before you. So it's a very these
Speaker 1: reviews that we do, the non spoiler ones are even
Speaker 1: more vague than usual. Do you This is probably a
Speaker 1: loaded question, but I mean, do you feel like you
Speaker 1: even need the spoiler free reviews? Yeah, because people want
Speaker 1: to watch it and see how you felt about a
Speaker 1: movie before they go see it. But like this is
Speaker 1: a movie that they're going to see regardless, especially your fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the hope is that they trust people like us enough
Speaker 1: to see a review and see how we felt about
Speaker 1: the movie, but not giveaway anything. Whereas you run the
Speaker 1: risk with it. Like, look, if you're asking me personally,
Speaker 1: if I didn't already see Infinity War, I would not
Speaker 1: be listening to anybody. I wouldn't. I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: delete the Twitter. Ye, Like our friend Jeff, he was like,
Speaker 1: i'll see you later social media. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be on social media until after, which is good because
Speaker 1: I feel like people dropped the ball with Black Panther.
Speaker 1: I felt like the night it came out, spoilers, spoiler memes,
Speaker 1: spoiler like people were using plot points as memes, which
Speaker 1: is understandable, but it was like the night it came out,
Speaker 1: so I can only imagine, like, what's going to happen
Speaker 1: just Premier Night for this moment. I mean, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be first when it comes to social media anyway,
Speaker 1: Like you want to be the first one to get
Speaker 1: like a funny meme in or to get like this
Speaker 1: hot take. But the other side of it is like, look,
Speaker 1: I get that everybody loves social media and you're addicted
Speaker 1: to it, but have a little bit of willpower, like
Speaker 1: it's not cool to tweet spoilers, but also just don't
Speaker 1: Can you live without checking Twitter until you see the movie?
Speaker 1: Can you actually exist as a human being in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen and just not read a review until you
Speaker 1: see the movie? Yeah? Well, before we even jump into it,
Speaker 1: here's a question that was very, very fought up. Pa.
Speaker 1: I love talking about this story because everyone has such
Speaker 1: a strong stance on whatever their stances with this. So
Speaker 1: back when The Force, uh, the Force Awakens, that was
Speaker 1: the first one. Right when The Force Awakens came out,
Speaker 1: I was still writing for at midnight, and every comedian
Speaker 1: wanted to do a joke on the show where they
Speaker 1: would yell han dies. Every comedian like not every comedian,
Speaker 1: every dick trolley comedian like wanted to do that bit
Speaker 1: where that's their answer, and we were like no, and
Speaker 1: like someone snuck and did it, and we bleeped it
Speaker 1: out like it was bleeped out, like that's the live
Speaker 1: that Chris wanted to go through. Chris Hardwick, he wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure because you know, he's a nerd, and
Speaker 1: also since it's his show, it kind of falls on him.
Speaker 1: And then that was like I think week one or
Speaker 1: two that comedians started, Like comedians weren't super dicks, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it right away, like they waited
Speaker 1: like a week or two and they wanted to do that,
Speaker 1: so we bleeped it like week two. Then like I
Speaker 1: think another week or two pass and someone else wants
Speaker 1: to do it, and I think the person who eventually
Speaker 1: got to get away with doing it without any blocking
Speaker 1: was Joan Ray and uh, don't quote me on that,
Speaker 1: but that's why I think. And so then people were
Speaker 1: so mad at Chris on Wine where they're like, I
Speaker 1: still didn't get to see it, And so we had
Speaker 1: this big discussion in the writer's room of what is
Speaker 1: the cut off, Like, when do we think the cut
Speaker 1: off is for like spoilers, when you should stop being
Speaker 1: mad about it. I was the harshest. I was like
Speaker 1: two weeks. Two weeks for a movie like Star Wars.
Speaker 1: For most other movies, I would say longer before a
Speaker 1: movie like Star Wars, Infinity War, Black Panther. You know
Speaker 1: this is going to be a culturally large movie but
Speaker 1: also a movement, especially for Black Panther. And I feel
Speaker 1: like when you have such a cultural touchstone of a movie,
Speaker 1: you can't help the zeite guys from plug to daily
Speaker 1: zeite guys, the zeit guys from wanting to talk about
Speaker 1: it on social media. You can't expect everyone to hold
Speaker 1: their conversations past two weeks. Yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: for something as big as Han dying like that, it's
Speaker 1: just such a huge thing that happened that it's like,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest spoiler arguably of the last maybe of
Speaker 1: the two thousands. I mean, that's a huge spoiler. So
Speaker 1: I would say until a movie has finished its theatrical run,
Speaker 1: which I know it's tough for showing at midnight, but
Speaker 1: I get that people want to make that joke. But
Speaker 1: we're all professional comics. Can we not think of something
Speaker 1: else to say other than on dies? That's topical baby though,
Speaker 1: that's topical baby. Once it's out of topical baby, Danny.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, did you have that ruined? Ye? You had? Then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who ruined it? Brodie read Really We were
Speaker 1: on a shoot together and I said, yeah, I heard that,
Speaker 1: like Chewbacca dies, and he was like, no worse Han
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, my friend told me. Wow.
Speaker 1: My My thing is I would have let you go
Speaker 1: in thinking that like that would have been a funny,
Speaker 1: like fake out for you to think that he was
Speaker 1: going to die. Did you know that he hadn't like
Speaker 1: prior and like insider inform because this was before the
Speaker 1: movie came out, right, So did you know that he
Speaker 1: had like privileged knowledge of what happens? You just work
Speaker 1: in Hollywood if you want to find something out that's
Speaker 1: what's funny. I mean, as much as people might say
Speaker 1: that you can't. If you want to know something, there's
Speaker 1: ways to find out. I don't know, it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what's different in retrospect. I'm happier, Like I
Speaker 1: love Hans, so I'm glad they killed Han and not
Speaker 1: Chewy because I watched these news solo trailers and I
Speaker 1: love Chewbacca so much. Like you always don't kill the dog,
Speaker 1: but especially not that dog. It was like what we
Speaker 1: were talking talking about with Hector when Hector was like
Speaker 1: on Hector's m c U episode and Hector was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I was working and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the other editors like brought me into the
Speaker 1: room and showed me, oh, like we're going to have
Speaker 1: Thanos and showed me like a purple guy on the screen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, our friends, you know, they keep that to themselves.
Speaker 1: But some of them, which the Avengers back when you
Speaker 1: could only have six heroes in a movie, get away
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, I'm gonna text Hector so when we
Speaker 1: get to the spoiler part of this review to say that,
Speaker 1: because if you listen to them, is the spoiler part.
Speaker 1: If we haven't spoiled anything, like you know we should. Uh.
Speaker 1: So we saw a film, and y'all saw a film.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, you saw hopefully this film, which was
Speaker 1: Avengers Infinity War. So moving forward with our spoiler heavy review,
Speaker 1: this is your last spoiler alert. You be annoyed at
Speaker 1: this point, but you know what, we will still have
Speaker 1: someone writing us saying that we spoiled the movie for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because right after I say this is our last spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. They kicked it off with killing Loki
Speaker 1: real quick, like right out the gate like, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was great because it was such a cool
Speaker 1: flip from the first Avengers where you had Hulk just
Speaker 1: bashing around Loki at the end of that movie like
Speaker 1: he was a ragged and then Thanos comes in kills Loki,
Speaker 1: does the same thing to Hulk, like holy, and that
Speaker 1: was such a cool fight to see, just on a
Speaker 1: like basic nerd level, because there's not many people who
Speaker 1: can go toe to toe with a Hulk and like
Speaker 1: be his size, so to see them both go toe
Speaker 1: to toe and it just my nerd wheels were churning
Speaker 1: right there because I was like, oh, this is smart Hulk,
Speaker 1: because Thanos can't be Hulk, Like the Hulk is a
Speaker 1: broken character who's written because the matter he gets, the
Speaker 1: stronger he gets, and that's an infinite loop until he
Speaker 1: is undefeatable. But you know, I didn't even see Thor Ragnarok,
Speaker 1: but even from the trailers, you can tell like he
Speaker 1: was smarter, like he was communicating with Thor. He was
Speaker 1: about two years old, so he was like starting to
Speaker 1: like learn words and stuff like that. And in the comics,
Speaker 1: smart Hulk isn't as strong because he's smarter, so he
Speaker 1: that's the trade off is he's not so to see
Speaker 1: like Thanos just mop this around and and they killed
Speaker 1: him doll right off there. Didn't didn't even really realize
Speaker 1: it was time doll because the dreads. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this new black guy they had that they
Speaker 1: immediately killed? No, yeah, yeah, you know, and that's what
Speaker 1: I said. I feel bad? Who was it? I think
Speaker 1: RB three, our friend he wrote a very innocent, sweet,
Speaker 1: adorable tweet and it was like, why do we have
Speaker 1: to have people die? Like why can't you just want
Speaker 1: your heroes to live? What's wrong with the wholeheartedly agree? No,
Speaker 1: I was, like, I replied and I said, because then
Speaker 1: there's literally no weight or steak to these films. Most
Speaker 1: people agree, but some of you would have steaks and
Speaker 1: still everybody live. No, come on, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: And yes, that's what Iffy and I talked about. You
Speaker 1: have to which we'll get to about the end of
Speaker 1: this how this movie ended. But I really think you
Speaker 1: need to start one. That poster is way too busy
Speaker 1: and there are way too many characters on it. We
Speaker 1: cannot add anymore. We got to knock some of these
Speaker 1: guys off. Okay, that just aesthetically, and then we want
Speaker 1: New Blood coming in, which means Old Blood needs to leave,
Speaker 1: which means Old Blood. If you're like, well, they can retire,
Speaker 1: No they can't. You think that these men um and women.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, specifically Captain America an iron
Speaker 1: Man could just sit back and watches the world. They
Speaker 1: can just retire. No, they're gonna be in it for life.
Speaker 1: That's what I liked about the movie too, is like
Speaker 1: like Tony and Pepper they're talking about having a kid,
Speaker 1: and like they're just like that wrong. Yeah, it's like no, no, babe,
Speaker 1: this is even bigger than when in New York got attacked.
Speaker 1: This is even bigger than when we lifted an entire country.
Speaker 1: This is this is even bigger. So now I have
Speaker 1: to put on my new Iron Man jumpsuit and flip around,
Speaker 1: which I thought was great, like watching him interact with
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange for the first time, watching him long Doctor Strange. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then Hulk joined and Hulk throughout the movie. He's
Speaker 1: not Hulk throughout the movies. Bruce just going through what
Speaker 1: most men his age go through. He just keeps trying
Speaker 1: to get the Hulk, and he's like that together, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe there's a reason why I put it together, but
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where like every guy
Speaker 1: has been in some level of that situation and what's what. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a fun little mini arc that was going on,
Speaker 1: which was Bruce trying like it was a total flip
Speaker 1: on his journey. Up until this point, his journey was
Speaker 1: trying to suppress the Hulk. He should be in heaven
Speaker 1: now because the Hulk does not want to come out.
Speaker 1: But now instead he realized that he needs the Hulk
Speaker 1: just as much as the Hulk needs him. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's really cool to see that, and like there's
Speaker 1: just so much goodness in the movie. In general, the
Speaker 1: movie is a lot funnier than I thought. It was
Speaker 1: tremendously It's like an m CU movie, so we know
Speaker 1: that there's probably gonna be jokes there, but just from
Speaker 1: the trailers, look like a very different movie because like
Speaker 1: Thor ragn Rock, which if you get on that, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's so funny and there's a little bit of drama,
Speaker 1: and then Black Panthers there's a lot of drama and
Speaker 1: some good humor in there, and this was a nice
Speaker 1: combination of both of both of those. Like I I
Speaker 1: found myself shocked at how much I was laughing. Particularly,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of funny stuff, and everybody like Iron
Speaker 1: Man and Peter Parker have a lot of great things,
Speaker 1: but Thor and Rocket Raccoon, We're killing me calling him
Speaker 1: rabbit is just one of the funny I was howling
Speaker 1: in the theater. Yeah. That was actually the only like
Speaker 1: little preview or snippet I saw of the movie because
Speaker 1: I was trying to avoid I was trying to go
Speaker 1: in blind. But there was just this one like seeing
Speaker 1: that was on Twitter, and it was that scene where
Speaker 1: they have Thor on the bed and like everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about how hot Thor is, and then just Chris Pratt,
Speaker 1: you know, Starboard, being just super jealous and that was
Speaker 1: one of the funniest scenes. And just like seeing them
Speaker 1: banter back and forth and him like trying to deepen
Speaker 1: his voice to compare, and he's like, are you mocking me?
Speaker 1: Are not mocking you? It was just so good on
Speaker 1: a comedic level. I love so much of the comedy
Speaker 1: of it, and I think that you had to do that.
Speaker 1: I think that it was so it could have been
Speaker 1: really dark, and it was in a lot of places,
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that they flipped flopped it constantly.
Speaker 1: It was like a really dark scene and then immediately
Speaker 1: it would be a funny scene and then someone would
Speaker 1: be about to die, but still like Thor, but still
Speaker 1: making jokes, you know. And I thought that was smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the way they could shift tone so quickly between
Speaker 1: having like a funny Guardians one off, and then the
Speaker 1: next thing you know, we're in this scary new place
Speaker 1: and there's like a grim reaper there. It turns out
Speaker 1: to be Red Skull, which is awesome. I love that surprise.
Speaker 1: I love even more finding out that it was played
Speaker 1: by my more talent, my friend Ross, and I saw
Speaker 1: him at the premier and I can't say what I said,
Speaker 1: but it was basically like you turned I you. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. He said that. They recorded that last November,
Speaker 1: not even this November, but last November, and he has
Speaker 1: not been able to tell anyone And I just checked IMDb.
Speaker 1: It is still not listed. He has to that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's not because they don't want to give away that
Speaker 1: Red Skull was, which it's not listed at all. Great
Speaker 1: reveal was it was a really great reveal to have
Speaker 1: this old Red Skull and then like they just kind
Speaker 1: of body him in that same statement because they say that,
Speaker 1: you know, when he touched the Infinity Stone, he was
Speaker 1: banished to this plane to like take people to the
Speaker 1: Soul Stone so he can't leave, which also opens up
Speaker 1: a question that since Thanos got the Soul Stone, does
Speaker 1: that mean the Red Skull is now free? Oh I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that. I like that because Red
Speaker 1: Skull has just been waiting for something to come grab
Speaker 1: this god forsaken thing off this planet so I can
Speaker 1: just go about my day to day, see how my
Speaker 1: my kids see if Toby Jones is still alive, hang
Speaker 1: out with my Nazi buddies, get some taking torches, and
Speaker 1: go march. I mean, that was one of the things
Speaker 1: I initially had a problem with in in the movie
Speaker 1: that I'm still kind of wrestling with is that in
Speaker 1: order to get the soul Stone, you have to sacrifice
Speaker 1: something you love. And up to that point than it's
Speaker 1: just always seemed like a character to me that was
Speaker 1: incapable of love. So even when he tosses Goma over there,
Speaker 1: it's like, but did you really love her? She was
Speaker 1: your adopted daughter. You adopted a lot of people. He
Speaker 1: thought she was a warrior. I get it. Did you
Speaker 1: really love her? That? I followed the threat that Marvel
Speaker 1: fed me, which was when they first interact. He could
Speaker 1: have he had no reason to try and get Gomora.
Speaker 1: He could have gotten that stone and rolled out. But
Speaker 1: remember he set it up so that they would come
Speaker 1: to the collector. Then he set up reality so that
Speaker 1: she can see herself kill him and how she would
Speaker 1: feel like he did all that just to see like
Speaker 1: how she would feel. And then after all of that,
Speaker 1: bs the moment that he had her by the throne
Speaker 1: and she was talking back to when he Bill didn't
Speaker 1: like author of the movie. He took no mess from
Speaker 1: anyone else, like anybody talked back to him, anyone crossed
Speaker 1: him in any way. He was so quick to kill him.
Speaker 1: So to see how soft he was with God more,
Speaker 1: that's where I was kind of reading that thread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, again, to use the Star Wars comparison,
Speaker 1: it's like Darth Vader had to be broken down, or
Speaker 1: at least to us the audience, Darth Vader through the
Speaker 1: course of the classic trilogy has to be broken down
Speaker 1: from this big bat into somebody who we actually do
Speaker 1: believe can feel something. And than it was like I
Speaker 1: just hadn't crossed that threshold. Did you buy it? Like
Speaker 1: like when he has the tear come down, were you like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm buying that tear means that he actually loves this person.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a love like I
Speaker 1: love her as my daughter, or if it was like
Speaker 1: now I am truly alone, Like that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it came across to me. But he's been alone and
Speaker 1: that's kind of what she was saying to him. And
Speaker 1: it was like, no, this was the one thing that
Speaker 1: I think he did have pride, and I think he
Speaker 1: really did pride himself in the way that he raised her.
Speaker 1: But as far as love love, yeah, I agree, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I mean, I know I
Speaker 1: understand that was what they were trying to convey, but
Speaker 1: that's not how I felt. Yeah, I feel like that,
Speaker 1: like I only got it because I saw the threats.
Speaker 1: But I do think they could have done more, and
Speaker 1: I think that would have had to be done earlier,
Speaker 1: like not in this movie. They already had so much
Speaker 1: because like you saw that conflict between Nebula and Goma,
Speaker 1: and you saw the jealousy that Nebula had for Goma
Speaker 1: because Thanos always loved her. And I feel like those
Speaker 1: are the seeds, and that's kind of what resonated with me,
Speaker 1: is like, oh and just even when he brought Gomera
Speaker 1: into Nebula and he saw that she did know he
Speaker 1: never used any physical harm to Gomora, like he was
Speaker 1: just like you're lying to me, just tell me, Like
Speaker 1: that's kind of what cued me in. But I do
Speaker 1: think there could have been more seeds planted along the way,
Speaker 1: And also people would have liked it because you would
Speaker 1: have got more of a taste of Thanos, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I thought he was like one of
Speaker 1: those kind of deadbeat dads. It doesn't really care about
Speaker 1: his daughters. Like and then and then Nebula was just
Speaker 1: jealous because like Gamora would get a Porsche on her
Speaker 1: sixteenth birthday, and she got like a word processor or something.
Speaker 1: It's just nowhere near what the other one got. But
Speaker 1: the love thing, it's something I'm starting to buy into.
Speaker 1: And just the acquisition of all the stones I thought
Speaker 1: was really cool. And then obviously the utilization of the
Speaker 1: timestone at the end, it was so funny, like not funny,
Speaker 1: but crazy because that was the first time he used
Speaker 1: the timestone and it's because he just got it because
Speaker 1: he got it from Strange, which was that was the
Speaker 1: one that kind of fell flat for me. What I
Speaker 1: was the opposite Strange. Well, no, no, no, his whole thing.
Speaker 1: I loved it, but him giving up the stone, I
Speaker 1: didn't see anything, which well here's my theory then, because remember,
Speaker 1: or if you haven't seen it yet, there was a
Speaker 1: point when they were yeah, what was the name of
Speaker 1: squid words? Yeah, but one of children who was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite jokes is when he was referred to
Speaker 1: as squid word. Yeah. Um, when they're on his ship,
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange tells Tony, He's like, look, it's my duty,
Speaker 1: it's my whole existence to protect this stone. So if
Speaker 1: it's between protecting the stone or you or you know,
Speaker 1: or that kid Peter Parker, I'm going to choose the stone.
Speaker 1: I heard some people bandy this theory about that the
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange, you know, when he's seeing all those like,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna says, Like the one instance
Speaker 1: where he saw them winning was him releasing the stone.
Speaker 1: And so I think that he still honored his oath
Speaker 1: because he found out the only way to truly protect
Speaker 1: the timestone is to release it. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, you have a kid, and then the only
Speaker 1: way to really take care of your kid is to
Speaker 1: let them go to college, get out of the house.
Speaker 1: When you're eighteen, you're on your own because it's good
Speaker 1: for you. Such a weird analogy, but that wasn't I
Speaker 1: wasn't fully kid analogies for somebody who just love to
Speaker 1: have God. On that note, Um, we'll talk more about
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange and those stones right after this. So we
Speaker 1: are back, and I wanted to talk about Doctor Strange
Speaker 1: specifically because I really liked him in this So I
Speaker 1: remember when we had Hector on and we were breaking
Speaker 1: down the m c U and Hector was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more brooding or like, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of just was glossing over it. This I
Speaker 1: really did feel like he was, you know, had more
Speaker 1: of an attitude. It was fun seeing him, Like he
Speaker 1: said to Tony Stark, it was like, oh, unlike everyone else,
Speaker 1: I don't work for you, you know, I really like that.
Speaker 1: I loved that scene where he's fighting Thanos and then
Speaker 1: he multiplies himself. Everybody went crazy because that was like
Speaker 1: that doctor Strange you read Door Strange, that's his moves. Man.
Speaker 1: When he just went it was so good. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was geeked up, and this Cape alone performed some
Speaker 1: of the other superheroes. But I do want to say
Speaker 1: that I felt like he aside from the fact that yes,
Speaker 1: he probably saw that one instance where they win and
Speaker 1: it was giving up the Stone, I do want to
Speaker 1: say that I think Tony grew on him in some
Speaker 1: way where he was like, didn't feel right and watching
Speaker 1: this man die right before him, I think it got
Speaker 1: to him of anything he's still a person, like he's
Speaker 1: still human. I mean seeing all those people fade away,
Speaker 1: which is it's something that I think that people inside
Speaker 1: our bubble that really like digest this stuff day in
Speaker 1: and day out and are hyper aware of not just
Speaker 1: the present but the future of the m c U
Speaker 1: and that you know, Black Panther two is we know
Speaker 1: that's coming out, We know that the Spider Man movies
Speaker 1: coming out. That actually took some of the emotional weight
Speaker 1: of the deaths away from me. Like the Vision is
Speaker 1: its own things. I think Vision is like dead dead.
Speaker 1: I think the more dead dead. But when I saw
Speaker 1: it was either to Challa or Peter Parker start to
Speaker 1: fade away, whoever fades away, it was like in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, we're all gonna be don't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like this is gonna be solved somehow. This is
Speaker 1: not a permanent loss. Everybody else that faded away, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that sucks for them, but they're probably
Speaker 1: going on a nice vacation. Yeah. Well, that's what's interesting
Speaker 1: about it is all those people like Vision and More
Speaker 1: that you think are dead dead, I think no, I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be in the cinematic universe, what
Speaker 1: we referred to in the comic book as a huge
Speaker 1: red con. We're gonna see lots of switches, with lots
Speaker 1: of squats, lots of changes. But also I think basically
Speaker 1: in order to get all those people back, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to alter reality. And I think is going to
Speaker 1: be back, especially since James Gunn couldn't be at the premiere.
Speaker 1: What no, no, yeah, no, what were you saying? That
Speaker 1: was like a different what no? I was? I was
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, oh, because there's probably another Guardian
Speaker 1: and remember, yeah, James Gunn and be at the premiere
Speaker 1: because he was shooting the next Guardians. But she could
Speaker 1: be there, and Chris Prat all the other The only
Speaker 1: Guardien that wasn't there was Bradley Cooper Um and he
Speaker 1: hasn't been at any of these pretty much. That's the truth.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been at a lot of the premieres. But
Speaker 1: what's interesting to me is something that because Danny had
Speaker 1: mentioned this theory that she has that I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's swirling around other circles, but it's a great theory.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you the four with his oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so when because here's the thing. So if we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the ending scene, we're just skipping ahead,
Speaker 1: which is fine because I really do want to address this.
Speaker 1: So everyone turning to ash and whatnot. When when Thano
Speaker 1: snaps his fingers. Here's two things that I don't understand. One,
Speaker 1: I mean, they were crying. There was people sniffle ing.
Speaker 1: I understand that to some extent, but there was actively
Speaker 1: a woman mark in front of us at the premiere
Speaker 1: who was visibly upset. She like threw her hands up
Speaker 1: in the air. It was like, well, like that, she
Speaker 1: kept doing that. I'm like, honey, calmed own. Peter Parker
Speaker 1: has a three film contract deal. He's not going anywhere somewhere.
Speaker 1: Peter Parker's disappears. The only thing that got something out
Speaker 1: of me, and it was because when his was the
Speaker 1: most dramatic, he goes, I don't want to go, I
Speaker 1: don't and he's holding on and you're like, he's just
Speaker 1: a kid. That was the one I do agree, because
Speaker 1: even though we know it's just temporary for Peter, he's
Speaker 1: still a kid and it was emotional. But the others,
Speaker 1: I just you know, people were leaving the theater crying,
Speaker 1: and I was like, here's what you need to be
Speaker 1: concerned about. You don't need to be concerned about Tachalla. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's their new boy, Like they know he's the moneymaker.
Speaker 1: He's going to be one of the new stars with
Speaker 1: multiple films. Y'all are fine. Peter Parker, y'all are fine.
Speaker 1: Most of the people that disappeared in the ash are fine.
Speaker 1: What you need to be concerned about are the people
Speaker 1: who didn't die. That's Iron Man. They should have taken
Speaker 1: that man and they didn't. Okay, and Captain America didn't die.
Speaker 1: Those are two iconic, two of the longest stars that
Speaker 1: have been on there, and they didn't go. That's what
Speaker 1: I would be concerned with because that probably means in
Speaker 1: the next movie they're going to be gone and all
Speaker 1: those other new blood. The new blood that came in
Speaker 1: isn't gonna have to trade their lives or some sort
Speaker 1: of thing like to have some sort of noble sacrifice
Speaker 1: that allows everybody else to come back. But the point
Speaker 1: you made like somebody at the premiere crying. If you're
Speaker 1: at the premiere, you probably have some sort of connections,
Speaker 1: you know, But I don't want to seem like an
Speaker 1: awful person, like I got choked up in a couple
Speaker 1: of scenes, but I mean like being so upset like
Speaker 1: some of the people that said they were so upset
Speaker 1: about the ending, I'm very confused about. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and that that's why I'm really curious to see how
Speaker 1: this movie plays just for people that are outside of
Speaker 1: our bubble, particularly for little kids like I remember my
Speaker 1: dad took me and my little brother to go see
Speaker 1: the animated Transformers movie. They came on the eighties, and
Speaker 1: my dad was so upset after we were leaving because
Speaker 1: they kill Optimist Prime in the movie. And my dad
Speaker 1: is like, look, I took off work, I got the
Speaker 1: kids out of school to go watch the Transformers thing
Speaker 1: and they kill the hero. What's going on here? I wonder,
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of kids that are
Speaker 1: going to this excited to see Spider Man, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be dressed like Black Panther, and they're gonna see
Speaker 1: their heroes turned to dust. And they're not gonna know
Speaker 1: what we know that they're making more of these movies.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna think, oh, what happened? And their parents
Speaker 1: got to explain that to them. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: hard sell. Oh yeah, that's good, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the beauty of it, because they all have the beauty
Speaker 1: of like actually enjoying the material as it should be.
Speaker 1: But also that brings us to a good point where
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there are gonna be a lot of kids,
Speaker 1: but this is a very adult film. Like that's I
Speaker 1: feel like we forget that when we see people in
Speaker 1: kates and suits, but we're talking, we're using, you know,
Speaker 1: words we can't even use on this podcast in that movie,
Speaker 1: you know, And that kind of is something to also
Speaker 1: consider as a parent, that like, yeah, this is rough,
Speaker 1: but also this is rated PG. Thirteen. It was the
Speaker 1: only way I think for the m c U two go.
Speaker 1: And then again, I don't know if they had to
Speaker 1: go that heavy with it because I always hard and
Speaker 1: back to the Empire Strikes Back, like everybody wants to
Speaker 1: compare this Empire Strikes Back. Empire Strikes Back had a
Speaker 1: rough ending. But one guy got frozen for a while
Speaker 1: and another dude lost his hand. That's it. In this movie,
Speaker 1: every hero in every frame of the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: But in the next movie, the guy got unfrozen, another
Speaker 1: guy got a robot hand. That's going to be the
Speaker 1: next movie back. He was already new handed and he
Speaker 1: put his arms. You know, I actually enjoy that they
Speaker 1: ended it this way because if you know that they're
Speaker 1: going to come back, I feel like there's not as
Speaker 1: much weight to it. And that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't mind this ending because I think it
Speaker 1: kept to me. I was like, oh, well that's fun.
Speaker 1: That keeps it fun. Then because we don't know who
Speaker 1: they are, you know, yeah, we think that they're dead.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not, but they're definitely not permanently dead. So, um,
Speaker 1: I guess piss off people. But I don't see a
Speaker 1: reason to be piste off. I mean, here's here's the
Speaker 1: way to look at it, and here's the way I'd
Speaker 1: like to look at it as the one who comes
Speaker 1: their dead. They're dead right now, but they'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll alter reality, will come back. Who knows, maybe Wanda
Speaker 1: will come back. That was what was weird too, because
Speaker 1: Wanda disappeared right she was. She was one of the
Speaker 1: people who disappeared, if I remember, I believe so yeah,
Speaker 1: and that kind of like because you know, as fans
Speaker 1: were thinking of theories as it happened and then and
Speaker 1: when I saw her there with Vision, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I don't know how they explained her powers in
Speaker 1: the m C you. I'm probably gonna look it up
Speaker 1: while you guys talk for this next portion. But Wanda's
Speaker 1: powers in the comic, her mutant ability is to alter reality,
Speaker 1: like that is her powers. So my big thing was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna use Wanda to alter reality and bring
Speaker 1: everything back, YadA YadA, and she disappeared and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: So that was fun for me as a fan, whereas like,
Speaker 1: how are they going to get out of this? I was,
Speaker 1: and I'm about to max out my my NERD Discover
Speaker 1: card right here, because I used to play Magic Gathering
Speaker 1: and Magically Gathering. If you have a card, if you
Speaker 1: have a creature that gets killed, there's two kind of
Speaker 1: versions of dying in that game. One is your card
Speaker 1: goes to the graveyard or the yard, means you can
Speaker 1: summon something back if you can cast the proper spell.
Speaker 1: And then there's other times when if your character gets killed,
Speaker 1: they're removed from the game entirely. So I think Vision
Speaker 1: is like removed from the game. I think from the
Speaker 1: game think everybody else's removed from the game, yes, and
Speaker 1: yeah and uh, but then I think, like, that's why
Speaker 1: that post credit scene was so cool is because Sam
Speaker 1: Jackson as Nick Fury seemed like the only one that,
Speaker 1: as he's fading away, is aware of what's happening, like
Speaker 1: this is some sort of weird prophecy that was foretold
Speaker 1: that this could happen, and so he knew that, oh,
Speaker 1: this is happening to me. There's only one person I
Speaker 1: can call, and it's Bree Larson. Yeah. I actually love
Speaker 1: the fact, now that I think about it, that the
Speaker 1: Russo Brothers not only trolled you with the ending of like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know all these new characters that you love, We're
Speaker 1: going to kill him. Um. I love that they did that,
Speaker 1: and then they trolled you again by not having a
Speaker 1: mid credit scene that everybody in the theater was like,
Speaker 1: what it just And then it also said it didn't
Speaker 1: say the Adventures will return, it said and people booed.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to touch on two things here in
Speaker 1: this review. One is Wanda and Vision God. I love
Speaker 1: the fact that they got to have these moments together.
Speaker 1: We got to see this relationship that's been trying to
Speaker 1: bud Um privately, you know, And and I loved those moments.
Speaker 1: I think it made I agree that he's gone for
Speaker 1: good because I think that they finally gave him this
Speaker 1: type of sendoff where we got to see him with
Speaker 1: his love. We got to see these intimate, vulnerable moments,
Speaker 1: and then they took him. But who would you rather
Speaker 1: watch in the bedroom? Would it be Vision and Scarlett
Speaker 1: Witch or would it be Hulk and Black? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was when she saw him. Like that's that's That's
Speaker 1: what I want to see for the potentiality of it,
Speaker 1: because apparently Bruce can't really summon the Hulk right now,
Speaker 1: and so you're just watching a normal porn with people.
Speaker 1: But Vision in Scarlett, which is interesting, is what they
Speaker 1: would do to each other. I love that. That's where
Speaker 1: your head goes. Mark. You know, we we strive here
Speaker 1: to at least go one episode without talking about porn,
Speaker 1: and we have failed. But I'm just saying, all right,
Speaker 1: you don't have to lie. I think that I would. Actually,
Speaker 1: when I saw Peter and go more, I'm like, how
Speaker 1: is okay? Yeah, I'm assuming that everyone has never mind'
Speaker 1: not even going to go It's just like a Captain
Speaker 1: Kirk kind of thing like at the Kirk dated alien
Speaker 1: you know sometimes yeah, but when with an alien you
Speaker 1: kind of I think of it as the shape of water,
Speaker 1: things like are the parts the same? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: That's a good point because Gomra looks the same as
Speaker 1: as a human lady, but maybe the pants come off
Speaker 1: and it's just like some like weird like looking squid
Speaker 1: monster down there. Peter's into it, So, um, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Thanos as our villain. Yea, yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about this, and I want to I want to
Speaker 1: talk about this from because I got to get a
Speaker 1: real introspective look at this. I'm going to start this
Speaker 1: off with y'all know me. I'm a Black Panther fanboy
Speaker 1: before the movie, real big black pant who was my
Speaker 1: first hero who was not only black but African. But
Speaker 1: I went into this movie with a real introspective look
Speaker 1: at Thanos because you know, Mark's good friend and co
Speaker 1: host on Schmoll's No said that Thanos dethrone kill Manger.
Speaker 1: Uh that was his tweet, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: And I didn't just totally be like oh no, I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let's see because before we even go
Speaker 1: into this. I want to say, what makes kill Manger
Speaker 1: such a good villain is because we side with him.
Speaker 1: He's human, we can see how he made the mistaken
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, at his climax, his
Speaker 1: wants and needs are selfish, but his whole drive is not.
Speaker 1: He wants to liberate oppressed people. Thanos, I will say
Speaker 1: kind of similar. His whole goal is to cut the
Speaker 1: universe in half because the resources are running low. And
Speaker 1: that's a O D way to handle, you know, the
Speaker 1: situation at hand, especially when you think that he has
Speaker 1: the Infinite Gauntlet and could make any thing happened, and
Speaker 1: instead of doubling resources, he thinks he should cut the
Speaker 1: universe in half. That's a good plot hole the comic
Speaker 1: book people. I mean, you see the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: He just wants a cab and buy himself. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like me, like I just I just want to
Speaker 1: live away from everybody. Yet, maybe he should stop kidnapping
Speaker 1: children if he wants peace and quiet. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He never loved her in the first place. Um I
Speaker 1: agree though, If he that, I feel than Osen kill
Speaker 1: Monger have something like where they want what's best for humanity,
Speaker 1: I think essentially, and that means killing people in their mind. Um.
Speaker 1: I think I've made this point before, but that's how
Speaker 1: I feel everyone. Um, no one's ever on board with
Speaker 1: me about poison ivy. But she literally thinks that you
Speaker 1: should kill humans because humans are ruining the planet. And
Speaker 1: she's a plant person. Yeah, she's just like kind of
Speaker 1: like a she's kind of like sting. She's not wrong.
Speaker 1: She wants to save the rainforest. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: these villains aren't wrong, and that humans are ruining things
Speaker 1: and we should get rid of them. Well, were parts
Speaker 1: of them. It's one of the things that make a
Speaker 1: great villain. It's like it's like, what's your recruiting pitch.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a close race between kill Monger
Speaker 1: and and I would I would still throw a Loki
Speaker 1: in there, because Loki, to me, is just such a
Speaker 1: fun villain because it's such a fun trickster. But he
Speaker 1: he could not sell me anything. Like I don't believe
Speaker 1: Loki anymore. Like if he's telling me, no, Mark, come
Speaker 1: with me and you'll be my henchman. You can do
Speaker 1: all this. I'm like, I think I'm good. I don't
Speaker 1: really trust you. If kill Monger is recruiting me, there's
Speaker 1: a very good chance that I buy into what he's saying.
Speaker 1: If Fanos is recruiting me a little bit less, So
Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily makes him a week or
Speaker 1: villain than kill Manger. I mean, if they fight, we
Speaker 1: know who's winning. But kill Monger had more of an
Speaker 1: emotional connection with I think I'd probably still have to
Speaker 1: agree with Christian that Thanos I think is a little
Speaker 1: bit cooler of a villain simply because of the power
Speaker 1: that he represents. But it's really close, and I just
Speaker 1: saw Infinity where so I think I'm gonna be going
Speaker 1: back and forth. I just feel like he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same passion that kill Monger does. My thing isn't
Speaker 1: even the passion is kill Monger is a new type
Speaker 1: of villain that we haven't seen and we don't get
Speaker 1: to see especially Yeah, in just movies general Danos is
Speaker 1: the same. Danos is dark Side, Thanos is dr Doom,
Speaker 1: Thanos is Magneto. There's like an air of where you
Speaker 1: can follow where it begins. But at the end, they
Speaker 1: only want power. Kill Manger wanted power, but he also
Speaker 1: wanted to disperse the power he wanted. He wanted to
Speaker 1: give the weapons to oppress people. He didn't want the
Speaker 1: power for himself. He wanted to share it. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, that's where the big battle quote unquote,
Speaker 1: Ryan Stanger says his son always calls the big fight,
Speaker 1: and Marvel moves the big battle. Uh So, like that's
Speaker 1: where the big battle takes places. He's getting ready to
Speaker 1: ship these weapons to oppress people around the world and
Speaker 1: then try and expand the empire. But doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: he wants to be the top dude. He wants everyone
Speaker 1: to have their own powers. But I do think that
Speaker 1: a part of him and that's what set him apart
Speaker 1: from Ta Challas that he did, in fact want credit
Speaker 1: for everything. They're gonna know us, they're gonna know like
Speaker 1: I'm on top. He was like a flashier, upside down
Speaker 1: world version of Black Panther, where instead of to Challah
Speaker 1: being royal and regal, and they did such subtle things
Speaker 1: where even when sure he was showing to Challa the
Speaker 1: suit and he was like, no, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be noticed, and then immediately kill Manger was like, I
Speaker 1: want to be the flashiest. I want to be the
Speaker 1: most noticed I want to be, So I do think
Speaker 1: that he does still have that aspect to him, but
Speaker 1: I feel he was when I met with Passion. Was
Speaker 1: I believe his vulnerability more, I believed his emotions more.
Speaker 1: Then let's dissect when kill Manger cried, I believed him
Speaker 1: more than when Thanos cried. Is what I met a
Speaker 1: pent and that's an element of a villain. But but
Speaker 1: I would also take somebody like Joker, who is the
Speaker 1: total opposite of these kind of villains we're talking about,
Speaker 1: where the reason why we like Joker so much is
Speaker 1: because he's so unpredictable. Because as Alfred said, some men
Speaker 1: just want to watch the world burn and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that's awesome. So I was kind of wrestling
Speaker 1: with with with because Thanos walks in both of those
Speaker 1: worlds a little bit. I don't think kill Monger wants
Speaker 1: to watch the world burned. He just wants to get
Speaker 1: credit for being the guy that stopped it from burning.
Speaker 1: And he also wants to wear, in my opinion, the
Speaker 1: cooler of the suits, because that was wait forest colors
Speaker 1: was he was. He could have had the black and
Speaker 1: gold suits Demon Deacon costing all day long, over the
Speaker 1: black panther Northwestern colors. I'm glad that we have these
Speaker 1: different villains because for Loki, Loki to me is like charming,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's more like that's the type of
Speaker 1: villain that I feel. And for me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like kill Monger is more passionate. And
Speaker 1: then I feel, uh, Thanos is more I just don't
Speaker 1: see him. He's more like he's removed. He's more removed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like so and not as tangible. I think
Speaker 1: for some reason that's how I feel. He's more like statuesque,
Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, like a god where he's kind
Speaker 1: of just making orders and things as opposed to we
Speaker 1: all have had that moment though, where it's like that.
Speaker 1: That's the first time I really identified with Thanos, who
Speaker 1: is ready at the end when he walks out of
Speaker 1: his cabin and you can just see him sitting on
Speaker 1: a rocking chair just cracking open a beer, like, who
Speaker 1: it has been a day, you know, I'm just man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna kick up back on my
Speaker 1: feet and watch some ballgames. Oh man. Yeah, that's there's
Speaker 1: just like and this is more to him being a
Speaker 1: good villain, but there's just something nefarious about someone doing
Speaker 1: something like cutting the world in half. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm not it's all fair. It's all fair, rich
Speaker 1: or poor, just cutting it in half and killing half
Speaker 1: of people, you know, Like that just seems very current
Speaker 1: people who think they're fair and they're just screwing over
Speaker 1: a group of people, but they think, you know, I'm fair,
Speaker 1: So it's all good. And even the fact that we
Speaker 1: like even the fact that that, like if you and
Speaker 1: Christian in the room, you guys have got to have
Speaker 1: this debate. The fact that we are in this place
Speaker 1: now with the Marvel cinematic universe where the one, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of Achilles heel has always been perceived as well
Speaker 1: they don't have great villains. In fact that the last
Speaker 1: two movies have delivered arguably the best two villains alongside Loki.
Speaker 1: I think that's such a boon to what this thing
Speaker 1: is doing. And it's like it just keeps on going.
Speaker 1: Like you saw those people on stage of the premier
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, this is the culmination of ten
Speaker 1: years and we're all gonna have to rebuild after this.
Speaker 1: They're not rebuilding yet, They're still going oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: I just to move on to the next part just
Speaker 1: talking about just the I feel like there were a
Speaker 1: lot of achievements made in this movie, like, you know,
Speaker 1: just seeing all these worlds come together, to see to
Speaker 1: really see how that this is ten years in the
Speaker 1: making and to see all these movies come together seamlessly.
Speaker 1: I was like, you would have never been able to
Speaker 1: pitch this to anyone ten years ago that like, don't worry.
Speaker 1: In ten years, we're going to do a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of movies and the world's are going to collect come together,
Speaker 1: you know, Like the way we have to do it
Speaker 1: back in the day is be like all of Quentin
Speaker 1: Tarantino's movies exist in the same universe because there's one
Speaker 1: tiny clue in every movie. Like that's as much as
Speaker 1: you can get. So to build all these movies around this.
Speaker 1: It was impressive to see and to finally have a
Speaker 1: Spider Man feel like Spider Man in an Avengers movie,
Speaker 1: like you know, Civil War, he was there, but he
Speaker 1: didn't really get to Spiderman out, and in this movie
Speaker 1: he really was Like just that line with he was
Speaker 1: like I'm doctor Strange, Like, oh, we're using our fake names,
Speaker 1: like the callback to Civil War. We said, you remember
Speaker 1: that old movie that really Aliens and it's just funny.
Speaker 1: And and to speak to your point a little more,
Speaker 1: it's like, what's very interesting about the m c U
Speaker 1: right now? Is it? First of all, after this movie,
Speaker 1: Kevin fig he probably just sat back, like Theano say,
Speaker 1: to the end of this movie. It's like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna relax for a minute. But what Marvel recently announces
Speaker 1: that they're not going to be doing a haul Ah
Speaker 1: panel this summer, which which indicates two things to me.
Speaker 1: One is that you don't go check out our comic Con. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's where all the studios unveiling their new projects
Speaker 1: and stuff, and it's always this big marketing play for
Speaker 1: all the studios. And the fact that they're not going
Speaker 1: to show anything at Comic Con from either Captain Marvel,
Speaker 1: which is the next at Men of the Wasp is
Speaker 1: going to come out early July. But are we sure
Speaker 1: this isn't just their usual em ploy for to get
Speaker 1: people to go to D twenty three. What's interesting about
Speaker 1: is a D twenty three The next twenty three isn't
Speaker 1: until after the sequel to Infinity Wark comes out. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: the next twenty three isn't this year? That's all you
Speaker 1: have to say, because yeah, because remember when it's D
Speaker 1: twenty three year, they hold back on comic con and
Speaker 1: just save it for details. I think it's August of
Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Teams they had a they did D
Speaker 1: twenty three in h in Tokyo in February of this year,
Speaker 1: and then they're not doing it again. So I think
Speaker 1: that they want to take their time. But I think
Speaker 1: that they're also a little curious to see if this
Speaker 1: Disney acquiring Fox deal shakes out and what that means,
Speaker 1: because if they acquire Fox, it's gonna take some time
Speaker 1: to get that done. But once that gets done, now
Speaker 1: you have all these other characters that may be able
Speaker 1: to come into your universe, like the X Men, Deadpool.
Speaker 1: I think they're already working on, Like I'm sure that
Speaker 1: they've already added them into the scripts. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about this a bit. How I'm pretty sure that deal
Speaker 1: is going to go through, Like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: going to take a freak thing, you know it. Basically,
Speaker 1: if that damn Comcast Time Warner merger happened, then you
Speaker 1: might might as well. But to take a step out
Speaker 1: of the review review and just talk about movies in general.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting kind of move because that would
Speaker 1: mean that Disney would own a huge stake in just
Speaker 1: movie properties. Yeah, a lot of the movies coming out
Speaker 1: are from Disney, which could be very dangerously because you
Speaker 1: don't want a studio have in a monopoly on movies.
Speaker 1: That's how we go back to the because remember there
Speaker 1: was a time where movies were stale and TV was
Speaker 1: better than movies. This was the breaking bad era where
Speaker 1: we were like, movies aren't that good? And and now
Speaker 1: you know, with studios like four, the smaller indie studios,
Speaker 1: those movies blowing up and pushing the bigger studios to
Speaker 1: take risks. That's how we've kind of gotten into this
Speaker 1: new dare I say, renaissance of movies, of films where
Speaker 1: we can get the moonlights, where we can get the
Speaker 1: get outs. And when you have a studio just kind
Speaker 1: of owning most of the market share, that can kind
Speaker 1: of almost bully smaller movies, then you risk no pushes.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the schedule to make sure I
Speaker 1: got some I saw people tweeting about it today, so
Speaker 1: don't worry I'll retweet you and call you out your name.
Speaker 1: I mean I said the same thing on the movie
Speaker 1: talking the other day, So I hope I'm right, but
Speaker 1: I think I am. The only reason I think it
Speaker 1: maybe is because they just announced the cast for the
Speaker 1: live Kim Possible. And so before we wrap it up,
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about our favorite part from
Speaker 1: the film right after this and we're back. So we
Speaker 1: are here with Mark Ellis of Collider and Schmos. Thank
Speaker 1: you for being with us. I am so happy. But
Speaker 1: you rated this? Can we talk about that? Do you
Speaker 1: like rating? Like? I know that you Sometimes there's like
Speaker 1: a as far as having to give a number to
Speaker 1: a film as a competitive human being and somebody that
Speaker 1: loves sports and statistics, then yes, I enjoy doing it.
Speaker 1: What I don't enjoy is when that number gets compared
Speaker 1: to every other number that I've given out. It's a
Speaker 1: fair thing to do, because if I give this movie
Speaker 1: one number, then if people look at the like the
Speaker 1: one that it always gets compared to is that because
Speaker 1: we ranked movies on a scaree of zero to five Schmos.
Speaker 1: And if you give a movie five out of five SMOs,
Speaker 1: I mean you thought it was just great, and so
Speaker 1: I rarely give that out, but I gave Michael Bays
Speaker 1: thirteen hours five out of five SMOs just stand by
Speaker 1: you and my mother. You and my mom loved it.
Speaker 1: It's a great war movie. And but now people are
Speaker 1: like any movie that comes out like Force Awakens came
Speaker 1: out before, and so it's not as good as and
Speaker 1: so you you kind of imprison yourself with that, as
Speaker 1: opposed to to just saying like, oh this movie Seaton
Speaker 1: theaters or wait until it's on cable or that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. So like the fact that I signed such
Speaker 1: a specific number and everything, I get a little penalized
Speaker 1: for it. But you know, anything to stimulate conversation and
Speaker 1: keep the community talking, and because I do love the
Speaker 1: conversation like I do like talking about movies a whole while.
Speaker 1: What kept you from giving this film a perfect square? Um?
Speaker 1: I thought that there there were a couple of things,
Speaker 1: like I really was disappointed that that they laid it
Speaker 1: all and star Ward pretty much that this all is
Speaker 1: his fault because he freaked out and punched Thanos right
Speaker 1: before they got the glove off him. Um. I just
Speaker 1: thought that was like, like, come on, you know, hold
Speaker 1: it together. You're about to kill go more of yourself
Speaker 1: an hour ago, and now you can't hang in there
Speaker 1: for five more seconds. We can get this stupid glove
Speaker 1: off the guy. But um, that Scarlett Witch, I think too.
Speaker 1: She I like how much she liked Vision, But I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if I have that power that she has. And
Speaker 1: they're trying to take a stone out of my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing everybody else out there in the fields
Speaker 1: of a condo laying their lives on the line, fighting,
Speaker 1: and I know I can go out there and just
Speaker 1: snap my fingers and get rid of half of them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that and then come back and see
Speaker 1: how my boyfriend's foreheadstone is doing. And then, um, the
Speaker 1: whole than was like not feeling or maybe feeling love thing.
Speaker 1: But those are those are more nitpicky things that had
Speaker 1: such a good time in the movie. So that's why
Speaker 1: it wasn't a perfect movie. But I still like, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the hell out of This is so fascinating because
Speaker 1: all those things have to do with love. Mark that
Speaker 1: you gave it. I'm not kidding. So you can't personally
Speaker 1: fathom loving someone so much that when you find out
Speaker 1: they're dead like what happened with Peter is that he
Speaker 1: couldn't stop himself because he loved her so much. And
Speaker 1: then you go with Scarlet, she couldn't stop herself because
Speaker 1: she was so much in love. So I think it's
Speaker 1: more that you've never been in love with someone so much.
Speaker 1: This is what we're finding out about. This is deeper.
Speaker 1: I mean writing on the wall, but all the people
Speaker 1: who've read all the side comics to all of our
Speaker 1: careers at this table, you know that was deeper than rap. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I don't think you are. I
Speaker 1: think I think so. No, I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I think so because it's the same way
Speaker 1: if remember in the m c U episode and we
Speaker 1: said our inability to understand kind characters, that's our fault,
Speaker 1: which I'm not saying, I understand your issues. Okay, I
Speaker 1: kind character though, No, you are you are? You are
Speaker 1: a Goku. You are a Captain America, you're a superman,
Speaker 1: You're a Goku. Yeah, you're a very kind hearted. I
Speaker 1: think I'm more like a hawk Eye except he has
Speaker 1: a family. Yeah, well we didn't talk about that once.
Speaker 1: He was not in this movie and we don't even
Speaker 1: know if they disappeared or not. Like we like, they
Speaker 1: didn't even get us a cut of way to them
Speaker 1: to see I should have been the mid credit day.
Speaker 1: It's a little emasculated if you're Hawk and you're hanging
Speaker 1: out with your family and like you can look up
Speaker 1: in this guy and see this huge battle happening and
Speaker 1: your wife's like, honey, how came you're not fighting with him?
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm just waiting. I'm sure that the invitation
Speaker 1: got lost in the Yeah, I'm sure they're they're just calling.
Speaker 1: You know, Tony has that flip phone, so you know,
Speaker 1: and that gets explained. Or maybe we'll en a Man
Speaker 1: in the Wasp in a few months here, and then
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel is March of next year, so that movie
Speaker 1: is gonna take place in the nineties. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: a nice set up for who this person is and
Speaker 1: why we had to call on her as the last
Speaker 1: resort at the end of this post credit scene. So
Speaker 1: here's here's the thing with the post credit scene. I
Speaker 1: actually wasn't that jazzed about it as much as I think,
Speaker 1: because we already know Captain Marvel's coming up, and I'm
Speaker 1: so used to the post credit scene kind of shining
Speaker 1: light on something that we didn't see coming. So like
Speaker 1: it just showing Captain Marvel's you know, logo. It kind
Speaker 1: of just was like, yeah, no, we knew that was
Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, I thought they were going to show her.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought would have been better exactly whoever
Speaker 1: she was like, that's what I felt. I'm not wrong, right, Like,
Speaker 1: the post credit scene usually tips its hat, except for
Speaker 1: the Avengers one where they had schwarm up that was
Speaker 1: paying off like a or the some of the thor ones,
Speaker 1: which are Yeah, I mean again, I think that we
Speaker 1: know so much about what's happening in this universe and
Speaker 1: that like the ordinary lay person might not know. But
Speaker 1: to that point, the ordinary person, like my mom is
Speaker 1: gonna go see this movie and she's gonna see that
Speaker 1: symbol and she's not gonna know what that symbol mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, what was that emoji on on Sam
Speaker 1: Jackson's beeper? You know? But that that was great. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of good payoffs in this movie, and
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the best payoff this movie had,
Speaker 1: which is trying to get Sam Jackson to say MFF,
Speaker 1: like since since it is in the world of Disney,
Speaker 1: it would or just even all the movies p. Thirteen,
Speaker 1: it would never be able to happen. But they found
Speaker 1: a way to sneak it in there, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this movie really did pay off a lot of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very well done movie. It
Speaker 1: was a nice celebration of the last ten years. And
Speaker 1: you think about, like I remember being in a theater
Speaker 1: seeing Iron Man and the way Iron Man kicks off
Speaker 1: with a C D C back in black and it
Speaker 1: just rocks and you're like, WHOA, I'm thrown into something.
Speaker 1: To know that this was coming would have been impossible.
Speaker 1: To know it would have been on this scale would
Speaker 1: have been impossible. So not only did we get to
Speaker 1: see an awesome Avengers movie, I also got to find
Speaker 1: out that I can't experience true love. I think good.
Speaker 1: So we already know that. Uh that Bark went ahead
Speaker 1: and gave this four point five out of five schmos
Speaker 1: because he thinks it's not as good as Thirteen Hours.
Speaker 1: I didn't even give this MOS. It was a little
Speaker 1: lower what I think. It's three point nine. But if
Speaker 1: I was going to do I was actually going to
Speaker 1: do it. Again, I think I'd probably get it over
Speaker 1: the four hump. Okay, well, so let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: give it how many nerdies we want to give it,
Speaker 1: because look, we'll ask the fans if they like this episode.
Speaker 1: We'll do this for tent pole movies that we like.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna submit us to Rotten Tomatoes so that
Speaker 1: my love can affect the Tomato meeting. I might be
Speaker 1: able to lend a hand with that. Go ahead and
Speaker 1: give it a rating, Danny, I'll give it a no.
Speaker 1: Now people are going to judge. Mind No, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm giving it a nine out of
Speaker 1: ten nerdies. And this is why, Um, I thought the
Speaker 1: amount of work that the Russo brothers had to do
Speaker 1: to make this movie work, to take all of these characters,
Speaker 1: and I understand it was like we had to cut
Speaker 1: here and then cut here, and then move here and
Speaker 1: here and here, But damn it, it was funny as hell,
Speaker 1: Like I was trying to keep up with it, like
Speaker 1: thinking even in their script like okay, and then they decided, okay,
Speaker 1: now we see Captain America. Okay, now we're gonna check
Speaker 1: back in with these people. But you know, it worked,
Speaker 1: and they were able to thread and blend these characters together.
Speaker 1: They made the meeting of them so perfect. I just
Speaker 1: want to do a chef kiss. There we go. It
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I laughed a lot, and I don't There's
Speaker 1: been other Marvel movies that are funny, but god, this
Speaker 1: one was just It paid off with everyone meeting each
Speaker 1: other and all of these diverse personalities all coming together.
Speaker 1: So and aside from that, the deaths and stuff, which
Speaker 1: is what I wanted. I wanted people to die. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the people that I thought were going to die.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I give it a nine out of ten.
Speaker 1: I did want to say one of my favorite scenes
Speaker 1: before we move on was the battle with We had
Speaker 1: a Koyer and Scarlet Witch and black Widow and they
Speaker 1: were all fighting together. I liked that against that horned lady.
Speaker 1: If I had to rank my three favorite scenes like
Speaker 1: real quick, I'm putting just the when when Thora calls
Speaker 1: Rocket sweet Rabbit. That is number three. It's so funny
Speaker 1: it killed and uh. Number two is probably the reveal
Speaker 1: of Red Skulls. I just thought that was so awesome,
Speaker 1: just to see redull God, it was so cool. And
Speaker 1: then number one it might be like that Battle of
Speaker 1: Wakan and like all our heroes are are just beating
Speaker 1: the crap out of all these like weird like parod
Speaker 1: even things running towards him, and then Thor comes down
Speaker 1: and just becomes the God of Thunder. That might be
Speaker 1: my favorite scene in the movie as of right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was like you really saw Thor reach his peak,
Speaker 1: as like this is the Thor that when you think
Speaker 1: about it, we never really get to see like he's
Speaker 1: always been working his way up like this. The whole
Speaker 1: series has been his arc to being the Thor that
Speaker 1: we know who is the god of Dude, do me
Speaker 1: a favorite. And I know you've got a busy life.
Speaker 1: I know you got a busy schedule, you got a
Speaker 1: beautiful family. Take two and a half hours. You can
Speaker 1: come over to my place you need to have. I
Speaker 1: was actually gonna watch it last night and then I
Speaker 1: got tired, So don't worry. It's on the docket. I'm
Speaker 1: a watch it. I'm gonna go ahead and give it
Speaker 1: a nine point two out of ten nerties. I would
Speaker 1: love to give it ten out of tin. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Here's what will always break the threshold for
Speaker 1: ten out of ten nerties. For me, I love movies.
Speaker 1: I love watching it. I love movies and I love bread,
Speaker 1: but also I love movies. I just felt like I
Speaker 1: said it very oprah like when I said it. But
Speaker 1: as much as I like them, there are very few
Speaker 1: movies I can watch multiple times. So I love this movie.
Speaker 1: It got me so jazzed up, but I don't think
Speaker 1: I can go and watch it again. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out of my way the thing that
Speaker 1: you could go watch in the same twenty four hours
Speaker 1: because you're because your friend wants to go see it,
Speaker 1: and therefore everyone's like, why are you here, Danny, And
Speaker 1: I said because if he yeah, yeah, like I like.
Speaker 1: I thought about that. I was like, man, Danny had
Speaker 1: to sit through twice. I don't think I could. I
Speaker 1: know off the top of my head four movies that
Speaker 1: I've seen multiple times with no problem, and those will
Speaker 1: be known go down in history out of my tin
Speaker 1: out of ten nerties, get out when it came out.
Speaker 1: I think I saw two times Black Panther, three times,
Speaker 1: Bad Macks, Fury Road two or three times, Big Lebowski
Speaker 1: ten times in counting, So who knows you know that's
Speaker 1: gonna be my basis for tin out of ten nerties.
Speaker 1: Can I, as much as I love it sit through
Speaker 1: it again? Yeah? I think this has quite the rewatchability
Speaker 1: of like an American Civil War, First Iron Man, the
Speaker 1: First Adventures to me Um Spider Man Homecoming pretty damn
Speaker 1: rewatchable like this one. It doesn't quite get there, but
Speaker 1: it's just got so much in it. Like this is
Speaker 1: a great cable movie because you're just gonna be flipping
Speaker 1: channels and you land on this movie and you watch
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of it, and then they break the commercial
Speaker 1: and then you go off with the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: It's not something like Jaws, where if Jaws is on
Speaker 1: T n T, I'm done for the next four hours.
Speaker 1: Like this, I'm watching the rest of this movie. This
Speaker 1: I can watch and I can wait until Thorne Rocket
Speaker 1: hangout or I can I can see Red Skull come back,
Speaker 1: I can see thora land on Wakonda, and then I'm
Speaker 1: going to be good with the rest of my day. Also,
Speaker 1: the fifth movie I saw Moonlight. I saw that three times,
Speaker 1: which is like a heavy movie to watch, which really
Speaker 1: is like you really have to I couldn't even watch Cocoa.
Speaker 1: I mean, I own it, and I haven't watched it
Speaker 1: again since I cried in theaters. Sometimes am I emotionally
Speaker 1: ready to go on this journey again and call on
Speaker 1: my family weeping? Not today, not today? Disney still haven't
Speaker 1: seen Coco either. Gosh, prepare your tear due well every yeah,
Speaker 1: I keep seeing that, Like whenever people are like, man,
Speaker 1: this thing gona, I was like, I gotta gotta prepare,
Speaker 1: prepare myself. You guys still have fans throwing a more
Speaker 1: off Alright, where can people find you? Mark? You can
Speaker 1: find me. Just announced us some big shows I'm doing
Speaker 1: in New York City June seventh and eight on that
Speaker 1: New York Comedy Club headline, and some shows there should
Speaker 1: be some special guests popping in. And then that's Saturday.
Speaker 1: I'm doing Fairfield Comedy Club in Fairfield, Connecticut. So you
Speaker 1: can get tickets at mark Elslive dot com just if
Speaker 1: you just go Mark Ellis Live. Is pretty much anything
Speaker 1: that I'm doing, whether it's movie TALKERSOS or whatever. And
Speaker 1: then um working on a very cool stand up show
Speaker 1: at Comic Con. So if you're gonna be a comic con,
Speaker 1: definitely swing by cool is if you're going to be
Speaker 1: on that show. Is if you're going to be a
Speaker 1: comic con is if you're gonna I'll probably be it.
Speaker 1: Then there's a chance that if he might be on
Speaker 1: the show, but only if only if you watch Yeah, Coco,
Speaker 1: let's throw some more at him what we do in
Speaker 1: the Shadows. These are things we've recommended to him that
Speaker 1: he has taken his sweet ass time. Meanwhile, he's multiple
Speaker 1: watching other movies. You're you're you're watching Moonlight and crying
Speaker 1: three times. Just throw in the mix, is all we
Speaker 1: ask of you. All Right, Well, you could find me
Speaker 1: at if you way way. I have y n W
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Speaker 1: you know, be kind to each other, be kind of
Speaker 1: other nerds. There's probably gonna be a lot of different
Speaker 1: feelings about this movie. You know. I like to tell
Speaker 1: people maybe don't talk about it publicly loudly in your
Speaker 1: hotel lobby like we had people for the Force Awakens
Speaker 1: do And I didn't have it ruined for me, but
Speaker 1: I could tell the workers working there or in your uber,
Speaker 1: you know, like not everyone gets to see it opening weekend,
Speaker 1: like you who's probably listening to this podcast. So just
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Speaker 1: the estimation of those numbers, probably not going to be
Speaker 1: exact because of the time it takes for set up costs,
Speaker 1: and but you know, get the two thousand. I want
Speaker 1: those figures. Oh yeah, No, it's gonna be cool. All right, y'all.
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