WEBVTT - EP 447: Finding Love & Sharing Results (ft.Danielle Campbell & Raheem DeVaughn)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Decisions Decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should say decision Decisions. It sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like you was talking to Kurston.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to say together the Decisions Decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Cizions Decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your girl, Mandeb I'm weezy, y'all, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode for you today.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, you heard us talk about and fuck

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot of conversations about STD and we've fucking

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<v Speaker 2>about Man, which we've had some confusion, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>what we've learned. It's been almost a decade and we're

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<v Speaker 2>still learning. So this episode, I'm actually excited to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like get my myth busted.

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<v Speaker 2>But y'all have heard us also talk about Gilliad. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing the risky dinners with them for the last

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<v Speaker 2>five or six years. Mandy and I came with Gilead

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<v Speaker 2>to Essence and they actually introduced us to our guest today.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you the real intros. Sister, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make it feel like you on a real daytime

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<v Speaker 2>TV show, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta look at us over looking at yourself on a

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<v Speaker 3>We're right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn you want to watch this on TV. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Danielle M.

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell's an HIV prevention, treatment and care researcher and community

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<v Speaker 2>organizer for the HIV AIDS and Sexual and Reproductive Health

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<v Speaker 2>Rights Justice. But you know you you did a type

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<v Speaker 2>on this maybe not anyway, you know a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>we are so glad to have you. You do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of awareness policies and campaigns and so yeah, we would

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<v Speaker 2>love to have conversations with you today just about the

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<v Speaker 2>stigmas around HIV, the stigmas around std learning, how to

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<v Speaker 2>get prevention, learning, how to get it and not be

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<v Speaker 2>told no.

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<v Speaker 1>As we heard Mandy her experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Years that was yeah years ago. I'm now on on

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<v Speaker 3>that thing. But just a couple weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys tune into our win as they drops,

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<v Speaker 3>you got decisions. When a sante came on with me

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to a sante. We had a listener write

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<v Speaker 3>in and say that she found the PREP medication in

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<v Speaker 3>her boyfriend's medicine cabinet. And it was just really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>the conversations that shout out to our patrons that dropped below.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there was a conversation around it being that he

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<v Speaker 3>dealt with men or was promiscuous, and so there was

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<v Speaker 3>just I really loved the back and forth conversation around

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<v Speaker 3>why someone may want to get on it. Y'all know me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still waiting for my bisexual husband.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm fine with you know, air aboudy love and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody watching, But him and his boyfriend aren't sure.

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<v Speaker 3>No no no no no no no no, no girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe they just suck a little dick together, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but for me being.

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<v Speaker 3>Super in and like open to dating a person who's fluid,

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<v Speaker 3>I think going to sex clubs. I think also being

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<v Speaker 3>very aware of casual sex and how many people just

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<v Speaker 3>out here don't want to use condoms. I'm very just

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<v Speaker 3>aware of everything, and so prep has been something that

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked about on this pod now for a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so now I'm on it, and now I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for the goddamn two shots that I hear is out here.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to keep us updated on your journey to

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<v Speaker 1>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because and I actually and I'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>off of here, and I wanted to share it. Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>if you are listening to this episode. Go to the description.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're in New York City. There are now two shots,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna share the four locations that were given

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<v Speaker 3>to me that are giving them out. So look in

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<v Speaker 3>the description of this episode if you're curious about getting it,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna put it there.

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<v Speaker 2>And also even just beyond I feel like we all

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<v Speaker 2>know condom, but even beyond that, I think that's why

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<v Speaker 2>the prep conversation is so good, because absolutely one people

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<v Speaker 2>forget condoms can break and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we're lit, they don't happen whatever they cases. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's not one hundred percent, at least you've got this backup.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love having the conversation about PREP because for

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<v Speaker 2>years we've heard our male gay friends talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we get to have the conversation for our

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<v Speaker 2>number one demo black women and all our.

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<v Speaker 1>Other sisters in there. Twenty seven caucations. Okay, oh lord,

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<v Speaker 1>not the twenty seven Caucasians. We've been joking. We got

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven white listeners. Since you're one. That's about But

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<v Speaker 1>it's way more than that now, I think, so, oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's way more.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's thirty five, So all right, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't do a little practice with the both of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mandy actually had just said to us on an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>She was basically saying, this guy was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>how many times until we fuck to not use a count?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I think we need to do a

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<v Speaker 2>little role play on even before Nigga gets there.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go, both of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, scenarios on how to make asking for test results

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<v Speaker 2>less awkward. So previous partner you've had in the past

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<v Speaker 2>spins the block before in the past, you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>shared results, he says, Baby, you just got tested. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>you good? I ain't knowling nobody anyway, so I'm good too. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your response?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I see your my chart? Can I see your

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<v Speaker 1>my chart? Uh huh? Just immediately? Can I see your

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<v Speaker 1>my chart? Now? Yeah? Okay, off teaser. We would have

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. You have to have a conversation, right. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to feel empowered to ask folks about their sexual

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<v Speaker 1>health history. It's important. It's an important component of empowerment,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just something that we should normalize as we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with the my chart, but I actually Amandya said.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, if you don't know what my chart is,

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<v Speaker 2>like you ain't got the language. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>agree because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being a little empowered parent empower.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, everybody pretty much knows my chart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy? No, no, no lifestyle people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think for the people that are not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my friends do not get tested. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of men, a lot majority

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<v Speaker 3>of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I would even say, don't know what my chart is.

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<v Speaker 3>I the casual sex person, the person who's in relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>the person who's not in the lifestyle, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>gets tested as often. I don't think they know what

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<v Speaker 3>my chart is to just ask it like that. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I shared last year, I was wanting to be a

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<v Speaker 3>unicorn and I dated a couple and we all went

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<v Speaker 3>out and they were like, well, recent test results are

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<v Speaker 3>necessary before we play.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind you.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, when I did end up playing with them, condoms,

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<v Speaker 3>were you still but before we all literally me, the guy,

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<v Speaker 3>the woman, we all have to share our recent results.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I told my friend friends that, oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>conversations were like, what do you mean? So like y'all

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<v Speaker 3>were vibing and y'all you didn't go back with them

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<v Speaker 3>because they wanted your results.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they think you're dirty?

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<v Speaker 5>Do that?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's always the conversation too. But when I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling my friends, oh, we're gonna plan to play after

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<v Speaker 3>we all get tested. When I tell you, those conversations

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<v Speaker 3>were like what they like? I know as sex positive

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<v Speaker 3>as I am as long as I've had this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>My closest friends, I can say my chart and they

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<v Speaker 3>would say, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So even aside from conversations around sexual health, your

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<v Speaker 1>lab results, your plans of care, all of those things

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<v Speaker 1>are part of your mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Child.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They know whether they need ybroid removal, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Your check on their reproductive health. But I and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess when they go and get checked for that. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>they get checked for the other things as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Times but some times.

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<v Speaker 2>Year is probably the average of most women because if

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting the results, when to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Their path right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Recommendations around have changed, so it's not annual. But part

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation we should be having around sexual health

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<v Speaker 1>reproductive health is just what we're saying normalizing.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if you had only one one sexual

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<v Speaker 3>part three months. Like I'm it's every every three months.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I do a little too much, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me like hedonism what Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So I went and was like, let me make sure

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<v Speaker 3>everything is is in the clear. But it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 3>one of the questions asked, especially when you I go

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<v Speaker 3>to plant parenthood, trump, you fucking orange cheeto bitch, you

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<v Speaker 3>better stop fucking with the goddamn funding. Okay, goddamn it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love planted parenthood ship. I think that's that where

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<v Speaker 3>I got my abortion when I was sixteen. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but for for everything that I get done, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the questions asked often is do you have any symptoms

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<v Speaker 3>of any STDs?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is your reason for coming in?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's crazy because having that conversation with the provider yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an open book, but I can understand how kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like alarming A lot of the questions are they

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<v Speaker 3>ask like men, women, how many partners? How how how

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<v Speaker 3>like how often do you have sex? Like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the questions, Even for me when I was putting,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, bitch, I just want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I did, But how many people could be like

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<v Speaker 3>not want to share those questions. And so if and

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<v Speaker 3>this is just me telling you, if you don't even

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<v Speaker 3>have symptoms, if you know P is right, you ain't itching,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't scratching. Still go and get tested because there

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of us who can be asymptomatic where

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know. And another thing too, because I always

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<v Speaker 3>have to request it. When you go and get tested

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<v Speaker 3>for the things you have to ask for. Trick trick

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the tricky ones, y'all. Trick trick be

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<v Speaker 3>out here, tricky you bitch's trick. Tricksis trick and monias y'all,

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<v Speaker 3>there's both, right, are we just saying it wrong? It's

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<v Speaker 3>trick trick trick what wait, let's get I just know

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<v Speaker 3>trick bitch and it's trick with a C H. But

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the word trick of tillmania not sure

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<v Speaker 3>be part right? Is that I would disorder that involves recurrent,

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<v Speaker 3>irresistible or.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to pull out by the air. That is something

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<v Speaker 1>completely that is that is given kick.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>What tricks, which we've been saying it wrong. See what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, y'all? They new t r I c A

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<v Speaker 1>you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's why we got damn yell dan, y'all, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't a moment to educate.

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<v Speaker 1>I smooth ask you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Trick test though, y'all let me tell you the HIV

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<v Speaker 2>test too, but they ain't gonna test. Let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>take into it a little bit. Would you rather, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. Would you rather tell the public you're on

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<v Speaker 2>ozembic or to tell the public you're on prep prep.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. It's easier to tell people await

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<v Speaker 3>loss strung than prep. Especially why because like, first off,

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<v Speaker 3>I say it all the time, we have men who

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<v Speaker 3>aren't able to live in their best selves, and black

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<v Speaker 3>women are a part of that because we don't provide

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<v Speaker 3>a safe space for them to limit that contramatory I

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<v Speaker 3>don't give off fuck they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so are you saying all black women? Because you

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<v Speaker 2>said no, no, no, no, I mean I would say majority

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not black. I would say no, not all, but majority. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But I know you talk about your friends all the

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<v Speaker 2>time saying that, like, and this is a conversation too.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were getting into it, I'm like, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the majority. I feel like the majority aren't

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<v Speaker 2>having the conversation. I feel like the majority are blaming

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<v Speaker 2>gay men, and I know you haven't had many of

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<v Speaker 2>those experiences because with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No they are Oh no, I've said my friends are

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<v Speaker 2>in the lifestyle and my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're not. Like a lot of my friends are

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of my friends don't know what my

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<v Speaker 1>chart is. I'm in the lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I talk about my friends, my circle of

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<v Speaker 3>non lifestyle groups of people, No, I said, most of

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<v Speaker 3>my friends don't know what my chart is.

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<v Speaker 1>And judge me because.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I was talking in regards to the conversation of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're saying safe space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we've even had.

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<v Speaker 2>This conversation like a year ago, were you're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not having this experience for me over the last few

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<v Speaker 2>years of working with Risky and Gilead. In a room

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<v Speaker 2>full of influencers, so if no one's heard me talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this, it's a dinner where we invite a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of black women influencers to pretty much educate them and

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<v Speaker 2>the public and their followers on HIV prevention for black women,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically doing this in cities where the rates are high

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<v Speaker 2>amongst black women.

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<v Speaker 1>At your next one, I want you to ask people

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<v Speaker 1>about my chart and bring it back. And that's over one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever done right, but i'll you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would, but you would rather tell people that you're on

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<v Speaker 3>prep over saying you're on a weight loss drug. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think we've normalized weight loss drugs now, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>like we just talked, oh my chart, there's not a normalization.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's culture dependent.

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<v Speaker 2>But so this is why I wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 2>go to this dinner, Go for it. The reason I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's a lot easier for the weight loss

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<v Speaker 2>drug is ninety percent of the time at these dinners,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation surrounding HIV prevention is geared towards women that

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<v Speaker 2>are sexually promiscuous and or living in a city. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>y'all should have seen the Atlanta dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, well, these are just out here, line

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<v Speaker 2>every single one, there's someone blaming the men they're sleeping with. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>dub bitch, he ain't gotta be fucking another man. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you fucking a man?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you fucking a woman?

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<v Speaker 2>And you end up getting it like are we just

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<v Speaker 2>under the accusation that black women are only sleeping with

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<v Speaker 2>men that have sex with men, which isn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>HIV prevention starts with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And also keeping it clear to anybody listening, we're encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>you to get tested. This is how you know your status.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a death sentence. We have so much language

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<v Speaker 2>around it today. Let's just figure out and know that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting sick that way, it's not turning into

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<v Speaker 2>something else. Like knowing your status is the most powerful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've all heard someone be like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get tested yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I want room all week. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's the thing, though, we have to provide the framework

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<v Speaker 1>for people to get to a place that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get tested.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You just describe challenges that you've had in the healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>system around getting ted tested and access to prep. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>as an advocate who is out and about and in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets and empowered in the street. You said you

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<v Speaker 1>was in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>You just said, okay, she's in these streets. But the

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<v Speaker 2>girl girl you on the boat, you were telling us like, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I had other bitches suck the dick. I stopped sucking

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<v Speaker 2>the dick. Oh wow, anyway to patriot hear the story.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, is right.

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't assume that people are empowered enough, are educated

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<v Speaker 1>enough about these systems of care that can put them

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<v Speaker 1>into place to be tested. So as we talk about testing,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about all the other systematic structures

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<v Speaker 1>that are in place that prevent people from getting tested.

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<v Speaker 3>But from a psychological standpoint, I will say, I now

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<v Speaker 3>go get tested. Like when I first was getting tested

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<v Speaker 3>with my little whole ass, I set nervous. I used

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<v Speaker 3>to think about, Okay, which bitch, which nigga gave me something?

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<v Speaker 1>One of these is gonna go. Don't care I'm nervous

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<v Speaker 1>every time. No Oh, I was gonna say, I'm not nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have sex with nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's something about knowing you got that white. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>once I put that little pea cup through that window,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, how long gonna be? Don't let me

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<v Speaker 2>do it on a Friday and bitch, you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>it back to me till Tuesday weekend. You should have

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<v Speaker 2>seen me yesterday. I actually had fun doing my little swap.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all know where you used to have to get swabbed

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<v Speaker 2>in your nose, bitch. I took that little cute tip

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<v Speaker 2>of my pussy and I said, oh, let me, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just twirling talked about so we're gonna talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently she telling me, bitch, you could still be dirty,

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<v Speaker 2>so I said.

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<v Speaker 1>The word dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>No, well, sorry, we're not using the word dirty, bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>you could still have something.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they didn't do all the swaps. Was there should

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<v Speaker 1>be three? Mind you?

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<v Speaker 3>I have never been swabbed three times. So we had

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation last night. Tell me the correct way, because

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<v Speaker 3>apparently I got the wrong way. But what is the

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<v Speaker 3>correct way or what we what should we advocate for

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<v Speaker 3>when we go and get tested, because you let me

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<v Speaker 3>know something new.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you're doing the things and putting things in places.

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<v Speaker 1>There should be a swab for all of the place

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<v Speaker 1>you put something.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I haven't put nothing but a butt plug in

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<v Speaker 3>my ass, so I'm good for my ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Right I had any sex? We haven't had a test run,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't confirm it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, goddamn you just say no, I've never I've never

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<v Speaker 3>tested my asshole, so I don't haven't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I just found out there. Tell them put the swab

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<v Speaker 1>in your brother?

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<v Speaker 3>How the swaps. The swap should go. You said you

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<v Speaker 3>throw in all of your holes.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially correct you everywhere something could go.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had a throw swap, only blood and urine

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<v Speaker 2>and penises in your throat.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying I've actually never been offered the throat swap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's part of the issue that we're saying. When

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about differential care, care should be universal. Sexual

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<v Speaker 1>health care should be standard across the board wherever something

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<v Speaker 1>goes a swapshift. That's great to know. Well, you ever

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<v Speaker 1>had someone off.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I know that that's been the conversation recently, that stigma,

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<v Speaker 3>well chlamydia has been being found in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people's throats now. And maybe you going to the doctor

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<v Speaker 3>thinking you got strip, strip ain't coming, COVID ain't coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It might And I don't think you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of healthcare providers that don't

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<v Speaker 3>even think to it's their own patriarchy, it's their own

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<v Speaker 3>perceptions about what women do.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be about you. But if you suck an

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<v Speaker 1>opinions that went in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Butt, Okay, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm not trying. We don't we listen and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't judge. All I'm saying is follow up the ass

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<v Speaker 1>What what other?

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<v Speaker 3>What other STDs can be found in the mouth? Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I only know of chlamydia, But what are

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<v Speaker 3>what else can what else could could live in your

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<v Speaker 3>throat that maybe you would test positive for.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so if you're not testing, or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not swabbing your oral cavities, right then there is the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of STI to live in those places, right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the message. Okay, so let's av rushing.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't enough brushing your teeth after enough?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are we and brushing you used to just do

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<v Speaker 1>a little throat valve, I mean a little mouth washing.

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<v Speaker 3>It got it, by the way, I did look it

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<v Speaker 3>up because yeah, y'all know I love my husband, shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to chat. So in your throat gonner riia, chlamydia, syphilis,

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<v Speaker 3>the main ones that you get tested for. Those are

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<v Speaker 3>the main exact trick trick can no rarely trick actually

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<v Speaker 3>rarely infects the throat and microplasma also very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also about sex workers put condoms on

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<v Speaker 2>penises during oral sex too. A lot of times I

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<v Speaker 2>was reading that like it was up to comfort. But

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<v Speaker 2>when documenting out a brothel, it was a moonlight. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting that from Cathouse back in the day. But anyway, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best television shows of all time, tell

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<v Speaker 2>Me So covers a brothel. No it's not, and the

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<v Speaker 2>owner died. He would have definitely been a trump Pizzo.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, when covering this brothel, I only went two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cat House.

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<v Speaker 2>I covered this brothel on sex Cells and they basically

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how no matter what condoms are used. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, they used to say, okay, oral sex,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe without someone can pay a certain price, but always

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<v Speaker 2>condoms during sex. But they're like no, because we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about open source here. Stuff that we can't see on

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the penis. They do what's called DC's dick checks. So

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<v Speaker 2>basically before taking a client, they're like looking at the

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.840
<v Speaker 2>penis to ensure there's got nothing on it. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>that's still not an We all got to do dick checks,

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<v Speaker 2>bro we do need to do the DC's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and I did. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>If you got to put it in your mouth, your

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<v Speaker 3>eyes is right there you should be looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we know why we really need a

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<v Speaker 1>look tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because HPV it's really general warts, but for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>it just at HS right. No, no, no, general warts

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<v Speaker 2>is different h the mouth. So HPV turning into general

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<v Speaker 2>general warts now because men can't get tested for HPV, right,

0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 2>so women can and the problem with that is that

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<v Speaker 2>they really don't know their status.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've been fucking all These women are all and

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<v Speaker 1>we know. But there's the assumption if you clean, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm clean. And guess what. But that's the responsibility on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, so back to Theosimpic thing. Okay, this conversation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always get it's always turning into this thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you right now, if we hosted a general and

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<v Speaker 2>keeping fitting weight loss that you know one would bat

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<v Speaker 2>nine s cream about Olympic. It is something that we

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<v Speaker 2>have all felt like is understandable. At some point. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>struggled with their weight. Your mama is somebody. We have

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<v Speaker 2>the weight conversation throughout our life as women, hormones whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to sexual health, that's the one that

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<v Speaker 2>we're quiet about. And I really do believe telling someone

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<v Speaker 2>you're on Ozmpic versus telling them you're on prep would

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<v Speaker 2>make them quote unquote judge you less.

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<v Speaker 1>You get judged either way. Yeah, you needed the weight

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<v Speaker 1>loss one though, like a lot of my homegirls, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I'm gonna speak generally, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my homegirls would rather or would rather not take Ozmpic.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a homegirl who did this leave. She was

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent anti Ozmpic. Same for me. I struggled

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<v Speaker 1>with weight loss and recently I was I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>my all my shit, but it was weight loss associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the dissertation. I'm not even gonna hold you, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Schools stressing me out. Oh my god, took me to

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<v Speaker 1>with an inch of my life. But folks are just

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<v Speaker 1>not pro let's do this Osembics thing, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at all of the potential negative health outcomes that

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<v Speaker 1>have not been studied in women, we know more about

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<v Speaker 1>prep from the science than we do Olympic. And you

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of folks when this ship started really

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<v Speaker 1>popping off with the Olympics, who were lying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me, this is the gym, and then thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later they're on the podcast or on a news

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<v Speaker 1>segment talking about, well, it actually was the Olympic and

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the gems. Yeah, we saw Oprah go from weight Watchers.

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<v Speaker 2>So so let's get into an essence article because it's

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>cuffing season right now. It's getting a little chilly, it is,

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's time to cuddle. Mandy got pho niggas to cut away,

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you get?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. It's all long distance. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>not naw nigga in Atlanta that we are what now?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you say you was looking for a bisexual

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>bay you know I am I, but I ain't found

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<v Speaker 2>one in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I like you, I'm very big.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love I would love someone local, but right

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<v Speaker 2>now everybody is scattered and we traveled to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I'm gonna be cuddling with body. I'm

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be cuddling with my cat this fall, so breaking

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<v Speaker 1>my punkin Spike.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the top ten cities for black singles to

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<v Speaker 2>find love.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go, We're gonna give you these cities

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna tell you what the HIV rates are actually the highest,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of crazy because they're almost.

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<v Speaker 3>You're starting with the top ten cities that's best for

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<v Speaker 3>single to black women.

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<v Speaker 1>To find love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, black singles doesn't like black singles. So number

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<v Speaker 2>ten bottom the list, Dallas, Texas. I believe that nine, Philly, eight, Delroy,

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit got some. They be generous in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Dang, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which we're gone the generous with the money.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they about to pull out the first, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit got them one.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what else to Yeah, the house to

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 2>they got the follow Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit got them one, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So in to number seven. I think you know why

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<v Speaker 2>they say that. I think it's just so many people

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. But I hold you, I'm an interesting My

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>homegirls found love in Atlanta.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>They found them in other cities. My homegirl she was driving.

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<v Speaker 2>To get him man and Birmingham rod him out the

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>back of Not only that, the thing about that is,

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>if you find love in Atlanta, you're sharing it with somebody.

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>There's too many beautiful somebody they don't know how to be.

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You walk down the street, you go to a cafe,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I love shits and gigs.

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>But they were wrong in it in Atlanta, jig gigs.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 2>They said that the girls weren't in Atlanta.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you this. You talk about people

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>who don't even live here. I commented on it.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a club culture of Atlanta. There is a

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>subculture of Atlanta of the love and hip hop attitude

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>with men and women. But you walk down the street

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, you're not gonna not see a bad bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Number six Baltimore. I actually really believe this one with

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<v Speaker 2>baltimorean hy.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Baltimore is tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>DC is number five because like DC, they end up

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<v Speaker 2>going to Baltimore to.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy the house, okay, and they ready to wipe you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the the holes go to Virginia, they go to Maryland.

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>When you get up to Baltimore, Maryland, Baltimore, Maryland, Maryland, Maryland, Garland.

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<v Speaker 1>The number four is Charlotte. What number three?

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Charlotte got some one? I'm all some niggas on Instagram

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 3>from Charlotte. Well, they friends, and I'm like, which one

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 3>they in.

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>The little Charlotte. Number three is New York, which I do.

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna hold you dating in New York. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it might get tough because there's a lot of volume

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like in Atlanta, but there's a lot of motherfuckers in

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>New York. Bitch, go outside, you've had the summer. If

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 2>you wasn't at a black party, what the fuck was

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you doing, probe, get your ass out of the house,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 2>wake up home.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two Chicago and number one Yago got them ones

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<v Speaker 1>to Houston, Texas.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Now what's crazy about Houston, Texas is I remember going

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 2>to Risky over there and they said that was some

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of the highest rates for black women with HIV. And

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 2>like Florida didn't make the listen all for black.

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<v Speaker 1>Singles for love, no big for black singles. We all

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>been down at this survey. Where would you think black

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>singles in Florida? I don't know made Miami? No, they

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>all speak Spanish.

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Seven of these cities have the highest rates of HIV

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>in the country. By the way, that's because the dick

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>is good and you forget to put the condom on.

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you the cities that don't. They're

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>also Republican. They also don't have some second like let's

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.959
<v Speaker 2>say all of the things. But so Charlotte, Detroit, and

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Dallas are the only ones with the low rates from

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>that list, which is crazy when you think about it,

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's like Texas to me, especially with like the

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>reversal Roe v. Wade people just not wanting even to

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>walk into a planned parenthood all of that shit. I

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of them aren't really getting tested to

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>going down in Texas as well, so but Dallas maybe

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>because more white people.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I love Dallas really why?

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I just loved, I love, I love just the shout

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>out to Dallas. I go every Thanksgiving, even though I

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>might not go this year for Thanksgiving because she got

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 2>a baby and might be at his house anyway, But

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>just love Dallas. Out of these oh wait, shout out

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to uh, well, if you're from Dallas, right, we talked,

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about and he got a Cowboys shirt off.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Where out of these cities have y'all had some luck

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 2>in dating all of them?

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a nigga every last one of them cities.

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I've had everything that Detroit and Chicago detroittment

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>is that billy y'all tell you this though away, I'm

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna you get you a little Root's picnic type

0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of nigga that read out Auncle Bobby's baby in the

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>feeling Wow, they have a I don't rapper, you know,

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I told you, I ain't doing the Muslims. Why not?

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What what happened? They types of Muslim in New York?

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they like they're like the Malcolm Mexicans. Okay, they're

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>like Malcolm was fine though, was very fine. But they're

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>like the ones that converted through your day. You would

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>put he drop off for Kevin Gates. Let us not forget.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>By the way, that was entertainment. But my problem is,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's why somebody else now though, So

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he hold on. Let me see

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>can have That's the thing. Muscles can have multiple wives.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>If I started running broke, i'd have my ass out.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Something gotta be balanced.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>You're your faces out, your hands will be out. Makeup,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>they make up down face. We had a tour Ones.

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>We excuse me.

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>We had a show on tour Ones where a Mustlim

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>girl walked to the door. And I know, because you

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>know you book a makeup, I don't really know what

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>they look like. This bitch came to my hotel room.

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I said, I know this ship gonna be.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Getting the lashes out because I'm not your god ship.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>He said, it's gonna be good.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I would love when you Love

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>East baddies to come in here and we could do

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>anonymous tell us how you be hose because my man

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>was telling me when he was ramping in the streets,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>he was like, all them holes.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>In yah said, they was really even right.

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I think it's like he's like, yeah, they are religious,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>but like hed be wont the fuck He's like, I'm

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>never there first.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, they just be ready to go. He said,

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>they all be every day people. I'm pointing out the bitches. Sorry,

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I know. Wolf. I was like, I was like from

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Dallas and the Cowboys. He has people, but he jibs.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now we're gonna get into Howard try. This is

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>where you're gonna get a song lyric, Mandy, don't guess

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna know from the first word. I say, Okay, Dan, Yelle,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>this is for you. This is almost too damn easy.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to pull like a verse from it that

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you may not get.

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Slow head, show me so much love. The best head

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>comes from a thug. The dick, good thick, big and long,

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>slow thumping till the crack of dawn on the X.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Making faces and stuff.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>The girl what through the night making so much love

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>dead sleep when the sun comes up, you still ain't well.

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet you. I got it in my mind. Go

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>go go so look it now, look it good? Yeah,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just like keep going. I don't know the name of

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the song, but I know what you're talking about.

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes you do, I don't right now, looking good in

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>my mind. Lick this pussy just like you should. It

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>was just a commercial now now we get my back

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>was just commercial commercial.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It was commercial walk before I walk? You know what?

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 3>She said that song keep her pape. Yes, the way

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>they sample and put that song every much. It was

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>about a gym or something like wait what yeah, they

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 3>you know how they put the commercials and they'll take

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the song and then they remixed it and there she

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 3>was like all the women out there get ready to

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>go to the gym.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the fuck? And then you hear

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the beat in the background. I just walked up like

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you live in l A. This was for something around

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the corner in New York. This is New York. My neck,

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>my back for a gym is funny. I mean, I do.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me get your bread.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it. Let's do some myth busting. Tell

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>us a little bit about some of the people you've

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>interacted with and maybe some of the craziest misconceptions you've

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>heard when they've come to you for HIV prevention and help,

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>or maybe just being confused.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Around their status.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Like, I just kind of want to get into what

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you do and the people you've encountered with your work.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I've done a little bit of everything. So I started

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>out wanting to understand more about how HIV affected Black

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>women specifically. I was in a class once in this

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>instructor was talking about how Black women are disproportionately affected

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>by HIV, and I'm like, why is this something that

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we do that makes us more prone to it? Is

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the biological? Is it genetic? What is it? And so girl,

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I started to unpack all of the things, both social

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>structural policy related. So I started to volunteer on a

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>mobile testing unit. So mobile testing units before they were

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>not a thing where you would go to homeless encampments,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>college campuses, anywhere you could drive. We will pull up,

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>pop the tent, be outside, and then people would just

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>come up to us and ask us for an HIV test.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't see them as often anymore. No, I think

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so some maybe funding it could be funding. I think

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>part of its funding. Part of it is that people

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>who are in positions of power believe that it's more

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>practical for someone to walk into a clinic, then walk

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>to a corner work and hop on them.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>In my early twenties, I was getting tested I say annually,

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>like like that nineteen to twenty four age yep, I

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>was getting tested whenever I went to a doctor, right,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 2>but HIV specific testing was always a bus, always, actually

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 2>always a bus. Like it was almost like, oh, one

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>will pop up a gospel. I don't know, like that

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>was really just me.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, in community, you can go on a van

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with people who are trained in sexual health, who can

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>administer you a test, give you results in twenty or

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>forty or one minute, and you were about, yeah, I'm

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna need that one minute. You don't have to go

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>in and click in, check in with somebody at the

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>front desk who got an attitude because they at work,

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>or wait thirty seven million minutes to see a provider.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Boom checkswibby, your mouth, poke your finger and you were out.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>The poking of the finger.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember even getting it done as early as high

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>school because I used to be able to get out

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 3>of class for the blood drives, but in order to

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 3>be a part of the blood drive they would It

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 3>would be the same thing.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>School based health centers. You can go right to the

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>back boo boo, and they can't tell you. You can't

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>walk off campus to go to a school based health center.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>It's part of you can't they can't tell you.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>So one of my craziest tests I ever had was

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>during the music festival. I don't know what the fuck

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking and shout out to VINNI. I always

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>remember his reaction. I was twenty one, maybe got on

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>this bus.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they was given out. They must

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>have been given.

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Out something, because why else was I wearing a tu

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>tuo and getting an HIV test?

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I was probably fut up. They might have tested me

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>for drugs and HIV. But where were you want with

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the tutu?

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Though I was at a grade, I was at music festival, okay,

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>So when he saw me getting on the bus that

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I came off, I was like, I have to wait

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>He goes, but what did you have it? Why would

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you do this to us for trying to have a

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>good time. And I was like, ship, oh my god, no,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but he was right, now, okay, get your sexual help together.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh think about it. You had a concert and he's like, bitch,

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>now what if you got it d We paid four

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>my god.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, this is in a room out

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Vinnie's our tour manager too. I'm telling you that. I

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>stood there, we were waiting and the guy was like, sorry,

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it's taking too long. Now He's looking at me and

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>he was like, but you really did this to us, y'all.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 2>We are sitting there with four other friends and the

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>guy came off the bus. They shared our results of

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>us on site.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>It was like, yeah, isn't that great where you can

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>get your results? And then if you would have tested positive,

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you would have been pull me back on that bus.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You would have been connected to care.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Now tell me one of the craziest stories you've heard,

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>one of even something that is a little bit darker,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 2>said whether be a married woman. It is something like that,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 2>like that you found out how the HIV and had to.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Tell I was downtown skip Row in LA and I

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>already noticed about to go. Oh yeah, so you see

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the most disparaging human conditions that you've ever seen.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And we were downtown skid Row and there was this guy.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget. It was the first positive, a preliminary

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>positive result I've ever had to give. And you're in

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>skid Row. It's a bunch of tents, people are parked

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>at a park. They're just kind of vibing. So I

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>found this guy. He came on we were doing like

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars subway cards. He got his test, and you

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>have to find the person and administer the test result.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>But you bring him back on the van and then

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you connect them to care as best you can. But

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>before you go back and get that person, you have

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to have your things in a row. So if they

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>test prelim positive, you want to be in a position

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>where you're not fumbling looking for resources. You have your

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.479
<v Speaker 1>care plan lined up, so that person is immediately warmed off,

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>warm handed off to an HIV care specialist so that

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>they can take further test results and then get in care.

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>So I found this man and he was like just

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>standing on the street and a bunch of guys and

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it's already awkward. They know you work on the HIV bus.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>So you're going back down and interrupting this group of

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>guys vibing, and you're like, gonna talk to you for

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a minute, and so everybody looking at him, and so

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it's awkward. So you're automatically putting him in a position

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to make people in his circle wonder that could be

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>dangerous for someone who lives on the street.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I say, I would never have thought of that.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, So you're interrupting this this social dynamic and

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>asking him to come back to the test. Why people

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna ask why. So if I felt that I

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>had put him in harm's way by giving his result

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the way I gave it, he didn't wait at the

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>mobile unit, so I have to go find him. He

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>had already tested prelim positive. So my responsibility is to

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>connect him to care immediately so that he can get

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>on HIV manage, get his virus suppressed, and then get

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>access to any other social services that he may have needed.

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So how do the meds work, because I want to

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.959
<v Speaker 2>talk about specifically PREP and the meds because.

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>They work the same way interrupt the So for people

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>who are living with HIV, it interrupts the ability of

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the HIV virus to replicate. You take it daily, right,

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it could be daily, or if you're taking a shot,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it could be less frequent than daily. It can be monthly, quarterly,

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>six months. The scientists moving at rapid pace.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Because we just know Magic Johnson and everybody always used

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 2>to say he must be rich, he must have the

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>thing to.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Make you get rid of it. He lived this on.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Magic was just in DC the other day at the

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>largest HIV conference domestically. He was on the stage saying

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that he takes it to HIV meds like everybody else

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>who's diagnosed with HIV.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 2>And what exactly is we keep saying prep, prep, prep?

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>What is it? Is it a shot? Is it pills?

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>It's both, it's both, and depending on your sex assigned

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>at birth, you have access to different options of prep. Hmmm.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, the girlfriend's episode about being undetectable, Yeah, tell us

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that. Can you, like bring back

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>that episode the HIV conversation and it can we relive

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 2>that moment with you?

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about it. So you're talking about where she

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>was using a knife and then she bled and everybody

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.479
<v Speaker 1>was like and it's like I was sitting there like girl,

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and so I have nieces who are like my babies.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to know me is to know how I

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>am about my family. So we were watching this episode,

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>so I oriented them to like ninety sitcoms, and so

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>we would like Netflix and just kind of vibe out.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>So there was this one episode and they pulled that

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>episode right, don't give a damn. You can find it anywhere?

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Did they really?

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it's so I know a lot offlix. Well,

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of episodes from the nineties that had like

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>problematic things because we now are in a very.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, but they sensitive anything they can find it.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 3>But a lot of a lot of episodes around certain

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 3>topics and just how it was handled.

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I thought it was poor. We're

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna find that clip so y'all can see it today.

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Find it.

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>So with that whole with the whole slicing thing, et cetera.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 2>How is how does transmission work outside of sex?

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>So HIV transmission we talked about yesterday. Rites spread five

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>different ways, two from him, two from her when you share,

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and so if there is a biological fluid that is

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>being exchanged, then there's a possibility of HIV transmission. It

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>could be a greater possibility or lesser possibility? So what

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>are the two from him too? From her pre come

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>pre come but them that's him. Blood is one you share? Okay,

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got blood, right, and then her vaginal secretions, breast milk,

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>oh god, it got it? Everyone from him? Two from

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>her one you share and so not from spit at all.

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>We had this conversation, I know, but I don't.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Find bringing it on here because I thought this spit

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 3>at one point was so can I swallow semen and

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 3>that person as HIV?

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm now at risk? Are are they undetectable risk for what? Okay?

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>So you have to qualify not risk, but possibility. Risk

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is a very stigmatizing word. So what's the possibility of

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>what getting getting HIV from swallowing? Yes, from swallowing semen? Yeah,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>but you just looked up and it's you looked up,

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you googled, or you use your friend chat, and what

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>did chat say about HIV or other sdis in the throat?

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It does say you can get HIV. There, it's a possibility. Okay,

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>so you need to consult a medical provider. Okay.

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Now, what is the number one way men and women

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>heterosexual couples are contracting HIV.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Do sexual context penetrative sex unprotected and partners could potentially

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>be unaware of one one's status and one person could

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 1>be virally could not be virallly suppressed.

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that through cuts? It's not through a cut, you're

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>saying it's secretion. I feel like we always thought it

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>was a viral blood disease growing up. So it's like, oh,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's why anal sex made so much sense. Oh,

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of course, because anal tearing. So men and women having

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>vaginal penetrative sex.

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 1>But you you missed one point though. Yeah, let's take

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>us back to this. You equals you are undetectable, equals untransmittable.

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So if my virus is suppressed, I have virtually no

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>possibility of transmitting HIV to someone else. Now, if it's not,

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>then there is the possibility. Right, So if absent, this

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>unsuppressed viral low anal tearing means what you address a

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>different issue. It could be related to size, it could

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>be related to technique, it could be related to activity.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So it isn't anal sex that increases possibility for HIV possibility.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>It's the undiagnosed and untreated virally not suppressed HIV that

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>could create the issue. It's not the sex itself at all.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It could be through vaginal sex, it could be through

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>anal sex, whatever type of sex you want to have.

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>We want to encourage people to do all of the things,

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>all including getting tested, taking PREP if you want to

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>take it, but taking your med prescribed if you are

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>someone who is diagnosed, to reduce that risk of transmission

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>of HIV to your sexual partners. It's about being aware,

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>not someone. We don't want to lay the blame at

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the feet of someone living with HIV regardless. You and

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I had this conversation a couple like about a week ago.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It's about empowerment, knowing your status and then taking the

0:44:56.040 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>necessary steps to protect yourself thereafter to the of your ability.

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything you'd want to leave our listeners with

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>who may not be I don't know, just in the

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 2>know on where to get prepped, don't feel like they've

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>got community enough to discuss this with.

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>That's that that blows me sometimes, because I know we

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>talk from a place of privilege. Knowledge is power. We

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>know about PREP, we know about all the things. We

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>feel empowered to advocate for our sexual health. But some

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>women are not. Some women are not. I've heard stories

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>from women who are in abusive relationships, who have partners

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>who do horrible things to them sexually that they don't

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>always have control over. But you want to encourage people

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to find a community and answer your DMS. Okay, we'll

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>do the community.

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>And also, is there any website just for where someone

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>in the country can like figure out how to get

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it done, where to get it done, just get more info.

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Ah. So I'm trying to think there are tons of

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>different resources planned parenthood. As you mention, I know you

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>love a good plant parenthood. So parenthood has resources. It's

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just the easiest. I will say that plan parenthood is yeah,

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>in your local state health department.

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it depends on where you live. Depends on

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>where you live, depends on where you live.

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But also some pharmaceutical companies have amazing websites related to

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the drugs that they manufacture. Okay, but I would start

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with a good instagram of plant parenthood. They have diagrams,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they have memes, they have videos, testimonials. They are not

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>just the abortion place, y'all.

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, They're the birth control place, They're the HIV prevention place.

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Just go over there gender affirming care place.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, how about that. There might be a little

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>bit of crazies outside with the signs.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I give them a girl, walk right past them and

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>do your business. Jesus love you there.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, bitch, sorry he sent you out here today with

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the hole spiel.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for joining us on the

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>podcast today and having this conversation. Thanks for having me.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we encouraged and urged you and we're gonna pave

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 3>you the us to go and.

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Get tested because it's not as scary as y'all. Goddamn think,

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you waiting? And we're all humans sometimes we're

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>afraid of the thing. I'm telling everybody, get tested in

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. I can't have a good time. It's

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 1>definitely not forty eight hours anymore. And HIV is immediate,

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that's correct. HIV.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I was still waiting for the provider and my HIV

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>result was in my amati. We had a great time

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>speaking to doctor Danielle. We are even more excited to

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 3>introduce our next conversation with our m B legend Raheem Devon.

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 3>He is known for his soul full, love centered R

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 3>and B. But what a lot of people do not

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 3>realize is how deeply involved he is in his advocacy,

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 3>especially around HIV prevention. Raheem has been doing the work

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 3>of educating black men about the importance of getting tested,

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>knowing their status, and having real, honest conversations about sexual health.

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 3>He's also been using his platform to spread awareness around

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 3>prep the HIV prevention medication, and to normalize brothers taking

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 3>control of their health without shame or stigma. We are

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>really excited to continue this conversation and without further ado,

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 3>please enjoy our conversation with Raheem Devon.

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody here, we are with Rahem Devon. We are

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>out of the studio in person and we just had

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>to join because y'all know I love niggas with drid

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's really what sorry, I mean singer songwriters. But

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>first what I pulled up on Google. Raheem Devon is

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>an American R and B singer songwriter, a tourus known

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 2>for smooth vocals and romantic themes.

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to know what chat GPT's got for you?

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 4>Rahim influenced by his father's music and his mother's vinyl

0:48:56.160 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 4>collection from the DMV, and also a radio personality, philanthropic,

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 4>We love all of that.

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I almost couldn't say that word. I got braceist.

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 5>But everybody walking, yeah, hey going.

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Can I also say shout out to anyone that had

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 2>a vinyl collection because I thought that was gonna be

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like my little cheap hobby.

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I did had no clue then.

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Motherfuckers were like sixty to eighty dollars a peak. That

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 2>is an expensive hobby.

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't back then. Was it is that expensive

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>back then?

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>No? Back then I thought they were ten cents. I

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 2>thought I was about to get vinyls for ten cents.

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, are you know anything?

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 5>You know? You know anything costs more.

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Now Nigga's got an aesthetic.

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Like when you go into somebody's house and they got vinyls,

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, wow, he is so like.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 5>Thee Yeah, check on my vinyl baby.

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Inflation has hit the vinyls. Well, Reggie really excited to

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:53.879
<v Speaker 2>have you.

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be talking about a lot of things today,

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 3>but what we're really excited to I have the conversation

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.240
<v Speaker 3>with you about is you being an advocate for prep

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and continuing the conversation specific specifically as a heterosexual black

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>man and the conversation around PREP. So I guess before

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 3>we start, can we talk about how you got involved

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 3>with this specific campaign and why it's so important for

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you to talk about it?

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 5>For sure? Well, I started my foundation, the Love Life Foundation,

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 5>back in twenty twelve. So one of our major initiatives

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 5>has always been HIV awareness and among other things, domestic

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 5>violence and you know, textbook scholarships for the you for

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 5>kids and you know, in my area here in the DMV,

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 5>So I always been doing things as it relates to community.

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 5>But how I found out about how I found out

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.879
<v Speaker 5>about PREP was my primary care physician, who I've had

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 5>for some a few years now at the time, a

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 5>little after COVID, I was searching for a new doctor.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 5>Stumbled upon doctor Hodge, who's out here in my area

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 5>in the DMV. And one of the first things probably

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.359
<v Speaker 5>he asked me, getting like leading into the conversation as

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 5>we were talking about sexual health. And you know, he's

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 5>drawing my blood and doing the you know, the NECESSF

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 5>the first physical primary care physical. You know, we're getting

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 5>acquainted with each other. He says, are you on PREP?

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 5>And uh? And I said, and I said no, and

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 5>and and you know, at the time. I mean, I

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 5>want to say, maybe I had heard about that there

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 5>was a medication but didn't quite know what it was.

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, and with all the different types of stigmas

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 5>out you hear all these different things. So but it

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 5>was the first time that that, you know, I had

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 5>had a primary care doctor, you know, or where they

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 5>just blameant, just like straight up asked. And you know,

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 5>he went on to tell me about statistically what's going

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 5>on in d C and how you know HIV was

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 5>back on the rise. He asked if I was married.

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 5>He has read a lot of questions and he strongly

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 5>suggested we trying. And you know, I quickly asked about

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 5>the side effects. You know what I mean, I'll all

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 5>consider myself like outside outside, but if you know, if

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 5>you're outside your outside, you know, think about HIV. Is

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 5>that anybody could be HIV possible? Everybody's HIV possible, meaning

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 5>if you don't do the proper things, had to you know,

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 5>get tested regularly, had to you know, sexual health conversations

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 5>you need to have with your partner. So I said,

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 5>I try it. I've been on there ever since. You know,

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 5>you're here.

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 3>In one moment, I I the question will not leave

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.439
<v Speaker 3>my head, and I have to ask you, and it's

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.840
<v Speaker 3>going to be completely ignorant. I lean into my ignorance

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 3>because I have questions that maybe other people are asking.

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 5>Lean with it.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh so did your primary care physician tell you or

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 3>ask you or educate you on PREP just because you

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:49.399
<v Speaker 3>were in a city with high rates like DC, or

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 3>did they ask you first, hey, are you.

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Having sex with men?

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 3>To my knowledge, PREP for a long time was only

0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 3>offered to men having sex with other men, so not

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 3>to you know, super ask you about your sexuality. But

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 3>how did your primary care physician straight up ask you

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 3>without knowing your sexual history?

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.400
<v Speaker 5>No, definitely ask my sexual history, like you know, you

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean. You know, you got to get

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 5>a pro state uh check in the physical. Well, you

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 5>got all the things, so you know, I was just

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 5>as as honest and transparent as I wanted to be,

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, with as you know, we got hippo law

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 5>and all that kind of thing. So I felt comfortable,

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, And and of course it wasn't like that

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 5>it would be my first physical or visit to a

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 5>doctor's office, you know what I mean. But I think, honestly,

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it was purely out of uh, just like

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 5>genuine concern and sexual health conversations, you know what I mean,

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 5>That that that he was letting me know like, hey,

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 5>there's something out here that that you know, that can

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 5>kill you, and there's something out here that that can

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 5>be a great say it can be it can save you,

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 5>be a perpenitive measure, you know, Like it's not it's

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 5>not the green light, the go grow dog in it,

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, like just just not not

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:06.399
<v Speaker 5>at all, because obviously it's it's it's a long list

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 5>of other things that that that that are out there

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 5>that we don't want, you know, s T I S

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. So I mean, he really broke

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.800
<v Speaker 5>it down and made me feel very He made me

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 5>feel very comfortable to have a conversation, you know, me

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.800
<v Speaker 5>me in particular, I was looking for a black doctor,

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 5>just me in particular, you know what I mean at

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 5>the time and wed we immediately like hit it off

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 5>and had a and and and and and you know,

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 5>and I feel like it was coming from a place

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 5>of like who I am or what I do? You know,

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, because I've been you know,

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 5>being a public figure can be it could be I

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 5>won't say annoying, but you know, I've been in places

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 5>where like I'm not trying to I'm not trying to

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 5>dap you up in the restroom home or literally or

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 5>literally getting you know, getting an HIV testing. It's like

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 5>can I get an autograph? And I'm like, that's crazy,

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 5>are you?

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:04.240
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, so so you know so so yeah again,

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, doctor, he's amazing. You know I had I

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 5>did have a lot of questions. I too, I too

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 5>have heard have have heard you know, and and and

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 5>and now that I know what I know that yeah,

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 5>like you know, this is not a you know, HIV

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 5>is not a lgbt Q thing. HIV is a global, yeah,

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 5>pandemic epidemic.

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 2>That that that.

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 5>It's back on the rise. You know, I come from

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 5>a I come from an era where there was a

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:42.439
<v Speaker 5>lot of messaging, you know, and you just don't see

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 5>that anymore, you know what I mean. So you can

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 5>there you know they're there, there are you know, there

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 5>are there children my you know, my oldest son is

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 5>my oldest son is twenty, you know what I mean.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 5>So his brother right behind him a seventeen. So you

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 5>know they're there for they're you know, there are folks

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 5>out here they don't know what HIV is, which is crazy.

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I really wanted to tell y'all you just

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 2>had me thinking of this. I completely wanted to share

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.399
<v Speaker 2>this story, but forgot this was a perfect time. Last

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>week I got tested and for some reason, I was nervous,

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 2>because you know it, you cannot fuck for a year

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>still be nervous. And the doctor saw me being nervous

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, have you heard about PREP? I said, yes,

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I have a sister, and you know what, I appreciate

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you saying that I don't know what I'm giving off.

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And just how Mandy asked you, did the doctor assume

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you might have been gay or sleep well? Man? I

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 2>was starting to think to myself because we all have

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 2>that stigma no matter who we are, even though we're

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 2>all advocates. I was like, does she think I'm a

0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 2>home or she just saying it because I'm nervous, And

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like, we actually have to get over and it's

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 2>me here right wanting to tell everybody to get on

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 2>this thing.

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But I was also like, damn, I can't believe that

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>even came into my brain.

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 2>So I can't imagine those of you listening that are

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>like maybe feeling a little pressured to get on prep

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 2>or feeling like you don't need it because you ain't

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 2>out here. But it's the pool, the dating pool that

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>we're in, right. You could be with one person, but

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>when rates are as high as they are, that one

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 2>person can be affected. But speaking of one person, I

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 2>wanted to play a little icebreaker game with you, Mandy,

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 2>and I love to do this with our guest, and

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're gonna have some good answers, so

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you will play smash your pasts.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 2>So even now to honesty their past sex and longestant relationships. Okay,

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 2>so she is a ten, but you find out by

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 2>scrolling on her ig before the date that she's been

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 2>to a bunch of your shows before, even though she

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 2>says she's never heard your music.

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna smash your past.

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm probably gonna past and she's a man.

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Depend on what she looked like.

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Nah, I'm a past because.

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 1>He said she's a liar helped the game. She's a ten.

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean with these so you gotta factor and the

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 5>lion you know, you know that's it's that seems like

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<v Speaker 5>while why live about something like live about the little things,

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 5>live about the big things, and and the and the

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<v Speaker 5>and and then there's a lot of other things that

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<v Speaker 5>come into play, like what what's what's the what's what's

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<v Speaker 5>the agenda?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what you know to get your money?

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<v Speaker 5>What's what's the alternated?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for the past, she's a ten But five years

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 2>ago on Twitter, she said, damn Donald Trump really starting

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a new wave?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Five years ago, five years ago meaning meaning like we're

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 5>going meaning like meaning like we are, we're already together.

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 5>And then and then like one day I stumbled upon.

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 2>The old you didn't smash yet, so you're gonna smash

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 2>your pass based on the tweet it was five years ago.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 5>Though, Yeah, I'm a probably past.

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm smashing and we're having a conversation. And depending how

0:58:58.760 --> 0:58:59.439
<v Speaker 1>far you are.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean, let me say that it ain't

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 5>gonna be paid. It wouldn't be just upon that that

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to base my decision. No either, So so

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 5>there's a there's a few other dynamics that are involved.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, maybe be there. How about this. I

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<v Speaker 5>smashed and I'm good and I'm there for a good time,

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<v Speaker 5>not a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Time while Okay, all right, hold on a ten your

0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 2>dreams celebrity crush. You've been liking all her photos on

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I G. She says, Hey, rahiem, I'm in Australia on set.

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't leave, but I want you to come and

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>see me. Are you gonna blindly fly out to smash.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell? No, they got all kind of face recognition of

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 5>what they got, all kind of you said, you said,

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 5>you said, Am I flying out off of the You're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to Australia to beat your celebrity streets?

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Na, not without not not not not without confirming that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it's they're writing you back.

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<v Speaker 5>You're having this convent, we're having this conversation on.

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<v Speaker 1>On I G G.

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<v Speaker 5>You want me to assume they're real. We don't live

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<v Speaker 5>in the era. We don't do We don't live in

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<v Speaker 5>the air where you can assume me. You got to

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<v Speaker 5>fight check everything now flight or not? Oh for sure,

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<v Speaker 5>for sure, like depending on what. Absolutely it's my dream

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<v Speaker 5>celebrity now absolute, absolutely absolutely Australia am back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go to Middle America. What are we talking about? Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll go to funking Dayton Ohio, what I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's a ten, but it's the final one that

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<v Speaker 2>sex related. She thinks Prep is a little gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you mean to educate?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you still I'm not so so one, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>insecure about my sexuality, you know what I mean? So

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, so I'm I'm I'm that's an opportunity to educate,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean? Like I've and and and ironically,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, I've dated and since being on prep,

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<v Speaker 5>I've had to have a conversation, Hey, I'm on prep,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was it's it's a it's a It's amazing

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<v Speaker 5>the amount of people who still think, you know, which

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<v Speaker 5>is which is a crazy stigma that it's only for

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<v Speaker 5>gay people or you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, I can imagine explaining it as a as a man,

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<v Speaker 3>like because even as a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just telling my boyfriend about it and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, so does that mean you have sex with

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have sex with guys? Like what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And and we're open, so we have sex with other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And the conversation literally went to educating that, especially as

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<v Speaker 2>someone who goes to sex clubs, who has other partners.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like mind you and I use condoms with everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but boy, do I just not trust anybody for real?

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<v Speaker 2>And again, like kind of like you said, h HIV

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, it's it's possible for anybody. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>care who it attaches itself to.

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<v Speaker 1>It literally can be for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a QR code before they can meet you

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<v Speaker 2>to learn about PREP.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, to learn about HIV, to learn about health,

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<v Speaker 5>to learn about PREP, to notice statistics of what was

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<v Speaker 5>going on, statistics, what's going on? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that you bring that up because like

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<v Speaker 2>so many people have a negative thought on celebrities who

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<v Speaker 2>get involved, say with you know, voting and elections and

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<v Speaker 2>getting into politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you're getting into this space. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen other artists recently talk about PREP as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Tamar has talked about it. Do a liipa cardi B.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you, however, though, taking the celebrity

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<v Speaker 3>out of it, how do you have this conversation with

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<v Speaker 3>your male counterparts, with your friends. I don't know many

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<v Speaker 3>other men advocating for this at this moment, celebrity wise

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<v Speaker 3>or just influencer wise. So I would like to know,

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<v Speaker 3>how does this conversation start or begin with your male friends, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you also educating them outside of black women? We

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<v Speaker 3>know that that's who we're trying to reach, but we

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<v Speaker 3>also have a lot of black male listeners here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What do those conversations look like?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely having a conversation. I mean, for me, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's you know, it's easy. You know, most of

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<v Speaker 5>my male friends, most of my closest in a circle

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<v Speaker 5>that I can think of, everybody's married except for me,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean? And which which By the way,

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<v Speaker 5>taking it back a step with doctor Hodge, he mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>to me when he was when he was telling me

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<v Speaker 5>about rep You know, that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of stood out to me, I think in

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<v Speaker 5>that conversation that day, is that he has married couples

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<v Speaker 5>that are on app for a number of different reasons

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<v Speaker 5>as well. Okay, you know what I mean, so that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so it was just it was just that

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<v Speaker 5>he was just telling he was just just being like

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<v Speaker 5>really raw and honest, just just what he's seeing it

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<v Speaker 5>on the day to day, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that uh, you know, people are stepping outside

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<v Speaker 5>of their relationships. You know that maybe maybe maybe they're

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<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe maybe they what one partner thinks is

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<v Speaker 5>a monogamous relationship while living a poly lifestyle, Like just

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<v Speaker 5>so many things, not being honest about their partners about

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<v Speaker 5>you know, their sexual health, of what it is they're into.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean when you when you thawt

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<v Speaker 3>to your homeboys and we we know homies share like

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<v Speaker 3>when they have side chicks or when they're stepping out,

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<v Speaker 3>Like are those moments that you that you would bring

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<v Speaker 3>up prep to your friends? Like again, like I know

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of bringing this to public platforms and going

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<v Speaker 3>on tour with you, but I think it's important also

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about how these conversations can be had in

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<v Speaker 3>the group chat or over a spade game or how

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<v Speaker 3>to cookout, Like how are you bringing this into your

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<v Speaker 3>personal life?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? I mean for me, Like again, it's an easy

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<v Speaker 5>conversation because I'm not you know, if any conversation that

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<v Speaker 5>can save you know, my life, my homies life, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to have a conversation, right, but I had

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<v Speaker 5>a conversation with my twenty year old son and my

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen year old in particular, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we we're out and I mean I was

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<v Speaker 5>just I'm one of those dads. It's like we have

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<v Speaker 5>like warp sense of humor anyway, so that so that

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<v Speaker 5>allows us to be able to kind of like tie into,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, conversations about sex. I mean, I think, I think,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it. I think it never be I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if it ever becomes comfortable for your kid that

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<v Speaker 5>like want to talk to you about like what they

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<v Speaker 5>got going on sexually, you know, dating, you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, and coming and coming to you

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<v Speaker 5>for a vice. He in there, but but I like

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<v Speaker 5>to always I like for them, I always know that

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<v Speaker 5>the doors open and had a conversations, you know. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, my oldest he's in he's in the military.

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<v Speaker 5>He's an airman and stationed out in Arizona. So I know,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm pretty certain he's no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, my my sister and my brother are

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<v Speaker 1>army veteran.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know he gets some sticky and I've been

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<v Speaker 5>and I've been on a base of two in a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe now, no, you hear something crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a risky dinner that I've been doing with

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<v Speaker 2>Gilliad and y'all probably seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole red thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the women at the dinner starts the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation by saying, yo, like, I can't have children anymore

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<v Speaker 2>due to a sexually transmitted infection I had. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling y'all make sure you protect yourself. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>first five minutes of dinner, right, so everybody judging her.

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<v Speaker 2>An hour later we started getting to the real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I was on the base with my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get tested to even obviously get into

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<v Speaker 2>the military, she said.

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<v Speaker 1>While being there, her man was such a hey.

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<v Speaker 2>She found out when she got her next annual that

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up giving her something. And because she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to check because like you know, they were busy,

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing anything, they're not getting tested as often.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally they had to remove her fallopian tubes. And

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<v Speaker 2>she said to me and the rest of the women

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<v Speaker 2>at this dinner, like, y'all are married at this table,

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<v Speaker 2>not realizing that this protective conversation also has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with you. It ain't just me, it ain't just the

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<v Speaker 2>other single bitches here, Like, we're all included in this.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you think about how so many people in

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<v Speaker 2>relationships feel safer.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, I'm not on the streets no more. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this conversation is for everybody, not just the three

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<v Speaker 2>of us who are outside. You know, like sometimes Mandy

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<v Speaker 2>and I are talking about things, our open relationships and

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<v Speaker 2>the fun crazy things we do, and I really feel

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<v Speaker 2>like people be listening to us or you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>mean comment saying like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they why they this. I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting myself at risk that may be out

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<v Speaker 2>with his friends, like it's the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And that was, and that was and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was the conversation you know that I have

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<v Speaker 5>with the boys. It was just like just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>just so you know, there's something out here called HIV

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<v Speaker 5>that can become as you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 5>it can kill you. And you know, it was interesting

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<v Speaker 5>because they don't it's not being talked about and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>amongst amongst their them and their crews and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>their their their their age bracket, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you single or are you dating? Single?

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<v Speaker 2>Dating?

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<v Speaker 1>Or that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I want to know how you bring this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to any of your partners as a man, how do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, let's get tested together?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any stories of how that conversation happens

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<v Speaker 2>while dating?

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<v Speaker 5>I've dated, and I've dated and had I've been in

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<v Speaker 5>multiple situations where I've dated and where we sat down

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<v Speaker 5>and like got tested like before we did whatever we did,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So I've been So I've

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<v Speaker 5>been Yeah, but so I've been in like little like

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<v Speaker 5>literally you know what I mean. Like and at the

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<v Speaker 5>first in the first time, it was it was it

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<v Speaker 5>was if it was it was awkward for me, but

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<v Speaker 5>it was refreshing them, Okay, I mean because because of

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<v Speaker 5>course there's like a there's like a you know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>like a who saw that happens like after the fact,

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<v Speaker 5>right and then and then I can't deny, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a period where you're waiting, You're waiting for the

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<v Speaker 5>you're waiting for the results. You're sitting there and you're

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<v Speaker 5>waiting for the results with your partner and you're like, ship,

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<v Speaker 5>what if it comes back? When did it comes back post.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at home test?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, tell us about it. Bring the at home test? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So so so at home tests. And I definitely was

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen with that test. That's very it's definitely, there's definitely

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<v Speaker 5>it's definitely, there's definitely back in it. This is definitely

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<v Speaker 5>within the next Lets we just said in the last decade,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And where are you getting these at home tests?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's for anyone want.

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<v Speaker 5>They got a home tests everywhere, CBS, Amazon, same place

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<v Speaker 5>you Amazon, they do home delivery, same place you go,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, same place you go, you know to get

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<v Speaker 5>a pack of Magnam said yell.

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<v Speaker 1>The brand.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones that I've used are or Quick and they're

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<v Speaker 2>like dollars I think and Dwayne read I know some.

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<v Speaker 2>But the ones that I've seen in the stores or

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<v Speaker 2>Quick and it's quick and it's not even blood.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so yeah, so so so that so there's that

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<v Speaker 5>period of time where you're like, what if my test

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<v Speaker 5>go that positive? Ship, where does she positive? You know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean? Like, you know, but yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean wait, wait, now what would you do if the

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<v Speaker 2>test did come back positive?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean not his test, but the other person,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, yeah, you know me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a human being. So the first thing I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>the first thing I'm gonna do is try to be

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<v Speaker 5>consoling or I'm probably gonna talk like this listen real, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean obviously they just got some news that is like, right,

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<v Speaker 5>life changing, right do I do I just burn up

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<v Speaker 5>the road to just leave, like absolutely not, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna, you know, on a serious note, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be as helpful as I can be. And and and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm assuming like this is somebody that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know that well, right, and maybe this is our

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<v Speaker 5>first time, maybe we've been hanging out, we've been a

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<v Speaker 5>few dates, whatever, and we decided that we were about

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<v Speaker 5>to be intimate, and then we get that news. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna just like just roll out, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna try to try with with with with with

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<v Speaker 5>Now I got it, And now of course I got

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<v Speaker 5>cheat code advantage that I can call somebody literally from

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<v Speaker 5>Gilliad or you know, somebody from my team. I can

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<v Speaker 5>call and say, like Hevy in confidentiality, I have a

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<v Speaker 5>friend and you know, and and try to be there

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, that's that I would imagine that that

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<v Speaker 5>would be like I can I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>And luckily, you know Senten right, because at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a path of health forward regardless of your HIV status.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's prevention. You're already on prep, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. Like condoms, like the thing I think that

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<v Speaker 2>people don't understand. We're all trying to force them to

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<v Speaker 2>get tested. I feel like sometimes I'm screaming it is

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<v Speaker 2>because the only problem is not knowing if you have it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can control it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get on medicine, you live life easy. But not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, we see Magic Johnson and Cookie. Yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So there's also a path.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a relationship and romantic partnership in all of these things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with medication and things.

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<v Speaker 5>But respectfully, though, when we talk about Magic Johnson the Cookie,

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<v Speaker 5>be talking about a different generation, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Like that there's a whole enough, there's a whole enough

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<v Speaker 5>that set of demographics you know, from what fourteen to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty eight that may not they may not either they

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<v Speaker 5>may they may not know or they don't care. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at one point, especially seeing how long Magic

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson has lived, there was quite a bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>or an era where the conversation around HIV literally ceased

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<v Speaker 2>to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they thought it just disappeared though he was,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can definitely I'm back then. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no way he paid somebody like he got the magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even I say, the generation under us, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we definitely had enough education to know.

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<v Speaker 1>How it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually lost an aunt too to the virus, and so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's interesting just now seeing that the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation is coming back to the front, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is very important because you're right, Inge, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>like this younger generation right now just isn't having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though they're having less sex, I think with

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<v Speaker 1>the sensationalizing of raw sex, I think these conversations go

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand. For sure.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes it makes for it makes for a very

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous time. You know. You think when you think about

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<v Speaker 5>where we are, you know, on this political climate, and

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<v Speaker 5>you think about what's what what, what's what it's potentially

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<v Speaker 5>about to happen in terms of like insurance, growing up

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<v Speaker 5>and care and.

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<v Speaker 1>The deep funding of planned parenthood.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like that, it's it's like the perfect storm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to also remind you guys that we did,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact have an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This was maybe within our first year. We did have

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<v Speaker 1>an episode where.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone was born with HIV, so I'm gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 2>to link that episode in the description here.

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<v Speaker 1>But we spoke to someone who literally their.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother had it and contracted it prior to being pregnant

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<v Speaker 2>and they were born with HIV, so I'll be sure

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<v Speaker 2>to link that episode as well in the description of

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<v Speaker 2>this file.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Rahiem, I do want to thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for having this conversation with us. I guess if you

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<v Speaker 1>can leave with a final words, I would love to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Your final thoughts to getting tested and also just speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to our male listeners as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, you know, anybody is HIV possible, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean. So you know, have the conversations you need

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<v Speaker 5>to have, you know, learn about crap, you know, see

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<v Speaker 5>if it's for you, talk to your primary care physician

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<v Speaker 5>about it, you know, educate yourself about it on it

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<v Speaker 5>and and and and see if it's for you. And

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<v Speaker 5>then and then of course for like all the things

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<v Speaker 5>that we've been talking about, you can go to Healthy

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<v Speaker 5>sexual or Healthy Sexuals with the s dot com, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to give more information.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's something that you know that that we continue

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<v Speaker 5>to fight and you know, create awareness about you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having me on the platform. I look

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<v Speaker 5>forward to the coming back and having more of a

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<v Speaker 5>raw conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, protected, protected, but protect Ratty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so very much, And guys, we will be

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<v Speaker 2>putting all of the resources and links in the description

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode, make sure you also join us over

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<v Speaker 2>on patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions where we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>continue the conversation but also provide you with those links

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<v Speaker 2>and resources so that you can educate yourself on prep.

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<v Speaker 2>The year is almost over, but you definitely want to

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<v Speaker 2>go into twenty twenty six knowing your status, so make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you go ahead and set up those appointments to

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<v Speaker 2>get tested. We highly encourage it, and we want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank you guys for being educated and edutained while.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening to this episode. Thank you so much, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you next week.