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Speaker 1: Welcome to Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you should say decision Decisions. It sounded

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Speaker 2: like you was talking to Kurston.

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Speaker 1: You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.

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Speaker 1: You want to say together the Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Cizions Decisions.

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Speaker 1: I'm your girl, Mandeb I'm weezy, y'all, we have a

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Speaker 1: great episode for you today.

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Speaker 2: Over the years, you heard us talk about and fuck

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Speaker 2: up a lot of conversations about STD and we've fucking

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Speaker 2: about Man, which we've had some confusion, but you know

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Speaker 2: what we've learned. It's been almost a decade and we're

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Speaker 2: still learning. So this episode, I'm actually excited to.

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Speaker 1: Like get my myth busted.

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Speaker 2: But y'all have heard us also talk about Gilliad. I've

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Speaker 2: been doing the risky dinners with them for the last

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Speaker 2: five or six years. Mandy and I came with Gilead

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Speaker 2: to Essence and they actually introduced us to our guest today.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you the real intros. Sister, I want

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Speaker 2: to make it feel like you on a real daytime

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Speaker 2: TV show, and you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta look at us over looking at yourself on a

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Speaker 3: We're right here.

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Speaker 1: Damn you want to watch this on TV. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Danielle M.

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Speaker 2: Campbell's an HIV prevention, treatment and care researcher and community

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Speaker 2: organizer for the HIV AIDS and Sexual and Reproductive Health

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Speaker 2: Rights Justice. But you know you you did a type

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Speaker 2: on this maybe not anyway, you know a lot and

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Speaker 2: we are so glad to have you. You do a lot

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Speaker 2: of awareness policies and campaigns and so yeah, we would

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Speaker 2: love to have conversations with you today just about the

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Speaker 2: stigmas around HIV, the stigmas around std learning, how to

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Speaker 2: get prevention, learning, how to get it and not be

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Speaker 2: told no.

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Speaker 1: As we heard Mandy her experience.

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Speaker 3: Years that was yeah years ago. I'm now on on

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Speaker 3: that thing. But just a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: If you guys tune into our win as they drops,

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Speaker 3: you got decisions. When a sante came on with me

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Speaker 3: shout out to a sante. We had a listener write

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Speaker 3: in and say that she found the PREP medication in

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Speaker 3: her boyfriend's medicine cabinet. And it was just really interesting

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Speaker 3: the conversations that shout out to our patrons that dropped below.

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Speaker 3: Because there was a conversation around it being that he

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Speaker 3: just I really loved the back and forth conversation around

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Speaker 3: why someone may want to get on it. Y'all know me,

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Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for my bisexual husband.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fine with you know, air aboudy love and

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Speaker 1: everybody watching, But him and his boyfriend aren't sure.

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Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no, no girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: And maybe they just suck a little dick together, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but for me being.

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Speaker 3: Super in and like open to dating a person who's fluid,

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Speaker 3: I think going to sex clubs. I think also being

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Speaker 3: very aware of casual sex and how many people just

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Speaker 3: out here don't want to use condoms. I'm very just

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Speaker 3: aware of everything, and so prep has been something that

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Speaker 3: I've talked about on this pod now for a few years.

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Speaker 3: I'm so now I'm on it, and now I'm waiting

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Speaker 3: for the goddamn two shots that I hear is out here.

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Speaker 1: You have to keep us updated on your journey to

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Speaker 1: get it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because and I actually and I'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: if you are listening to this episode. Go to the description.

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Speaker 3: If you're in New York City. There are now two shots,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna share the four locations that were given

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Speaker 3: the description of this episode if you're curious about getting it,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna put it there.

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Speaker 2: And also even just beyond I feel like we all

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Speaker 2: know condom, but even beyond that, I think that's why

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Speaker 2: the prep conversation is so good, because absolutely one people

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Speaker 2: forget condoms can break and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: sometimes we're lit, they don't happen whatever they cases. If

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Speaker 2: And I love having the conversation about PREP because for

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Speaker 2: years we've heard our male gay friends talk about it,

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Speaker 1: Other sisters in there. Twenty seven caucations. Okay, oh lord,

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Speaker 1: not the twenty seven Caucasians. We've been joking. We got

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Speaker 1: twenty seven white listeners. Since you're one. That's about But

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Speaker 1: it's way more than that now, I think, so, oh

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's thirty five, So all right, we

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Speaker 2: don't do a little practice with the both of you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Mandy actually had just said to us on an episode.

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Speaker 2: She was basically saying, this guy was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: how many times until we fuck to not use a count?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think we need to do a

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Speaker 1: So here we go, both of you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, scenarios on how to make asking for test results

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Speaker 2: less awkward. So previous partner you've had in the past

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Speaker 2: spins the block before in the past, you guys have

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Speaker 2: shared results, he says, Baby, you just got tested. Though,

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Speaker 2: you good? I ain't knowling nobody anyway, so I'm good too. Right,

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Speaker 2: what is your response?

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Speaker 1: Can I see your my chart? Can I see your

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Speaker 1: my chart? Uh huh? Just immediately? Can I see your

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Speaker 1: my chart? Now? Yeah? Okay, off teaser. We would have

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Speaker 1: the conversation. You have to have a conversation, right. You

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Speaker 1: have to feel empowered to ask folks about their sexual

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Speaker 1: health history. It's important. It's an important component of empowerment,

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Speaker 1: and it's just something that we should normalize as we

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Speaker 1: talk about sex.

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Speaker 2: I agree with the my chart, but I actually Amandya said.

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Speaker 1: Was like a year ago.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, if you don't know what my chart is,

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Speaker 2: like you ain't got the language. And I kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm being a little empowered parent empower.

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Speaker 2: I would say, everybody pretty much knows my chart.

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? No, no, no lifestyle people.

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Speaker 3: And I think for the people that are not a

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Speaker 3: lot of my friends do not get tested. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of men, a lot majority

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Speaker 1: I would even say, don't know what my chart is.

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Speaker 3: I the casual sex person, the person who's in relationships,

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Speaker 3: Also, when I did end up playing with them, condoms,

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Speaker 3: And when I told my friend friends that, oh, the

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Speaker 3: conversations were like, what do you mean? So like y'all

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Speaker 3: because they wanted your results.

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Speaker 1: Do they think you're dirty?

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Speaker 3: And that's always the conversation too. But when I was

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Speaker 3: we all get tested. When I tell you, those conversations

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Speaker 3: My closest friends, I can say my chart and they

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Speaker 1: Wow. So even aside from conversations around sexual health, your

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Speaker 1: lab results, your plans of care, all of those things

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: They know whether they need ybroid removal, like a lot

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Speaker 3: Your check on their reproductive health. But I and I

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Speaker 3: they get checked for the other things as well.

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Speaker 1: Times but some times.

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Speaker 1: Their path right.

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Speaker 1: Recommendations around have changed, so it's not annual. But part

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you had only one one sexual

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Speaker 1: And if I do a little too much, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: So I went and was like, let me make sure

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Speaker 3: to plant parenthood, trump, you fucking orange cheeto bitch, you

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Speaker 3: but for for everything that I get done, one of

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Speaker 3: the questions asked often is do you have any symptoms

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Speaker 1: Like what is your reason for coming in?

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy because having that conversation with the provider yesterday,

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Speaker 3: like how often do you have sex? Like a lot

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Speaker 3: Oh I did, But how many people could be like

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Speaker 3: not want to share those questions. And so if and

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Speaker 3: are a lot of us who can be asymptomatic where

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Speaker 3: for the things you have to ask for. Trick trick

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Speaker 3: out here, tricky you bitch's trick. Tricksis trick and monias y'all,

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Speaker 3: there's both, right, are we just saying it wrong? It's

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Speaker 3: trick trick trick what wait, let's get I just know

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Speaker 3: the rest of the word trick of tillmania not sure

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Speaker 3: be part right? Is that I would disorder that involves recurrent,

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Speaker 3: irresistible or.

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Speaker 1: Just to pull out by the air. That is something

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Speaker 1: completely that is that is given kick.

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Speaker 5: Of the week.

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Speaker 1: What tricks, which we've been saying it wrong. See what

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Speaker 1: I mean, y'all? They new t r I c A

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Speaker 2: See that's why we got damn yell dan, y'all, we

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Speaker 2: don't a moment to educate.

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Speaker 1: I smooth ask you the.

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Speaker 2: Trick test though, y'all let me tell you the HIV

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Speaker 2: test too, but they ain't gonna test. Let's uh, let's

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Speaker 2: take into it a little bit. Would you rather, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's go. Would you rather tell the public you're on

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Speaker 2: It was like, well, these are just out here, line

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Speaker 2: And you end up getting it like are we just

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Speaker 1: HIV prevention starts with you.

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Speaker 2: And also keeping it clear to anybody listening, we're encouraging

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Speaker 2: It's not a death sentence. We have so much language

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Speaker 2: You're not getting sick that way, it's not turning into

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Speaker 2: And we've all heard someone be like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I want room all week. But

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: You just describe challenges that you've had in the healthcare

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Speaker 2: You just said, okay, she's in these streets. But the

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Speaker 2: I had other bitches suck the dick. I stopped sucking

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't assume that people are empowered enough, are educated

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Speaker 3: But from a psychological standpoint, I will say, I now

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Speaker 3: with my little whole ass, I set nervous. I used

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Speaker 2: And there's something about knowing you got that white. I know,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, how long gonna be? Don't let me

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Speaker 2: do it on a Friday and bitch, you don't get

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Speaker 2: seen me yesterday. I actually had fun doing my little swap.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know where you used to have to get swabbed

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Speaker 2: Apparently she telling me, bitch, you could still be dirty,

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Speaker 2: so I said.

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Speaker 1: The word dirty.

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Speaker 3: No, well, sorry, we're not using the word dirty, bitch,

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Speaker 3: you could still have something.

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Speaker 1: Because they didn't do all the swaps. Was there should

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Speaker 3: I have never been swabbed three times. So we had

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Speaker 3: when we go and get tested, because you let me

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Speaker 1: Right, you're doing the things and putting things in places.

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Speaker 1: There should be a swab for all of the place

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Speaker 1: you put something.

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Speaker 3: Now, I haven't put nothing but a butt plug in

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Speaker 1: Right I had any sex? We haven't had a test run,

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Speaker 3: No, goddamn you just say no, I've never I've never

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Speaker 3: tested my asshole, so I don't haven't either.

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Speaker 1: I just found out there. Tell them put the swab

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Speaker 1: in your brother?

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Speaker 3: How the swaps. The swap should go. You said you

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Speaker 3: throw in all of your holes.

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Speaker 1: Essentially correct you everywhere something could go.

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Speaker 2: I've never had a throw swap, only blood and urine

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm literally.

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Speaker 2: Saying I've actually never been offered the throat swap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the issue that we're saying. When

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Speaker 1: you talk about differential care, care should be universal. Sexual

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Speaker 3: Well, I know that that's been the conversation recently, that stigma,

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Speaker 3: well chlamydia has been being found in a lot of

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Speaker 3: thinking you got strip, strip ain't coming, COVID ain't coming.

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Speaker 1: It might And I don't think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of healthcare providers that don't

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Speaker 3: even think to it's their own patriarchy, it's their own

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be about you. But if you suck an

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Speaker 2: Butt, Okay, let's.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not trying. We don't we listen and we

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Speaker 1: don't judge. All I'm saying is follow up the ass

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Speaker 3: What other STDs can be found in the mouth? Like

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Speaker 3: what else can what else could could live in your

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Speaker 1: I think so if you're not testing, or if you're

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Speaker 2: Isn't enough brushing your teeth after enough?

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Speaker 1: Or are we and brushing you used to just do

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Speaker 1: a little throat valve, I mean a little mouth washing.

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Speaker 3: It got it, by the way, I did look it

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Speaker 3: up because yeah, y'all know I love my husband, shout

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Speaker 3: out to chat. So in your throat gonner riia, chlamydia, syphilis,

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Speaker 2: And this is also about sex workers put condoms on

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Speaker 2: But anyway, when covering this brothel, I only went two

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Speaker 2: I covered this brothel on sex Cells and they basically

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Speaker 2: that's still not an We all got to do dick checks,

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Speaker 2: bro we do need to do the DC's.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I did. It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: If you got to put it in your mouth, your

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Speaker 1: By the way, we know why we really need a

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Speaker 2: Because HPV it's really general warts, but for some reason

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Speaker 1: But they've been fucking all These women are all and

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Speaker 1: I'm clean. And guess what. But that's the responsibility on the.

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Speaker 2: it's always get it's always turning into this thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: struggled with their weight. Your mama is somebody. We have

441
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: the weight conversation throughout our life as women, hormones whatever.

442
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: When it comes to sexual health, that's the one that

443
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: we're quiet about. And I really do believe telling someone

444
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: you're on Ozmpic versus telling them you're on prep would

445
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: make them quote unquote judge you less.

446
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: You get judged either way. Yeah, you needed the weight

447
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: loss one though, like a lot of my homegirls, and

448
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm gonna speak generally, a lot of

449
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: my homegirls would rather or would rather not take Ozmpic.

450
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 1: I had a homegirl who did this leave. She was

451
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent anti Ozmpic. Same for me. I struggled

452
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: with weight loss and recently I was I've been on

453
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: my all my shit, but it was weight loss associated

454
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: with the dissertation. I'm not even gonna hold you, he said.

455
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: Schools stressing me out. Oh my god, took me to

456
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: with an inch of my life. But folks are just

457
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: not pro let's do this Osembics thing, because when you

458
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: look at all of the potential negative health outcomes that

459
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: have not been studied in women, we know more about

460
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: prep from the science than we do Olympic. And you

461
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: see a lot of folks when this ship started really

462
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: popping off with the Olympics, who were lying like, oh,

463
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: this is me, this is the gym, and then thirty

464
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: minutes later they're on the podcast or on a news

465
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: segment talking about, well, it actually was the Olympic and

466
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: the gems. Yeah, we saw Oprah go from weight Watchers.

467
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: So so let's get into an essence article because it's

468
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: cuffing season right now. It's getting a little chilly, it is,

469
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: and it's time to cuddle. Mandy got pho niggas to cut away,

470
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: But what do you get?

471
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't. It's all long distance. I ain't got

472
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: not naw nigga in Atlanta that we are what now?

473
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: I thought you say you was looking for a bisexual

474
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: bay you know I am I, but I ain't found

475
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: one in Atlanta.

476
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: I like you, I'm very big.

477
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: I would love I would love someone local, but right

478
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: now everybody is scattered and we traveled to each other.

479
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm gonna be cuddling with body. I'm

480
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: gonna be cuddling with my cat this fall, so breaking

481
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: my punkin Spike.

482
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Here are the top ten cities for black singles to

483
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: find love.

484
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go, We're gonna give you these cities

485
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: and then we're.

486
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: Gonna tell you what the HIV rates are actually the highest,

487
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: which kind of crazy because they're almost.

488
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 3: You're starting with the top ten cities that's best for

489
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: single to black women.

490
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: To find love.

491
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, black singles doesn't like black singles. So number

492
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: ten bottom the list, Dallas, Texas. I believe that nine, Philly, eight, Delroy,

493
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: Detroit got some. They be generous in Detroit.

494
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Dang, oh my god.

495
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, which we're gone the generous with the money.

496
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, they about to pull out the first, y'all.

497
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: Detroit got them one.

498
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: And you know what else to Yeah, the house to

499
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: they got the follow Detroit.

500
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: Detroit got them one, all right.

501
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: So in to number seven. I think you know why

502
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: they say that. I think it's just so many people

503
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. But I hold you, I'm an interesting My

504
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: homegirls found love in Atlanta.

505
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: They found them in other cities. My homegirl she was driving.

506
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: To get him man and Birmingham rod him out the

507
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: back of Not only that, the thing about that is,

508
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: if you find love in Atlanta, you're sharing it with somebody.

509
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: There's too many beautiful somebody they don't know how to be.

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: It's hard.

511
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: You walk down the street, you go to a cafe,

512
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: like you know, I love shits and gigs.

513
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: But they were wrong in it in Atlanta, jig gigs.

514
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: They said that the girls weren't in Atlanta.

515
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this. You talk about people

516
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: who don't even live here. I commented on it.

517
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: There is a club culture of Atlanta. There is a

518
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: subculture of Atlanta of the love and hip hop attitude

519
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: with men and women. But you walk down the street

520
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, you're not gonna not see a bad bitch.

521
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Number six Baltimore. I actually really believe this one with

522
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: baltimorean hy.

523
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: Of Baltimore is tricky.

524
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: DC is number five because like DC, they end up

525
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: going to Baltimore to.

526
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Buy the house, okay, and they ready to wipe you up.

527
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: Now the the holes go to Virginia, they go to Maryland.

528
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: When you get up to Baltimore, Maryland, Baltimore, Maryland, Maryland, Maryland, Garland.

529
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: The number four is Charlotte. What number three?

530
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: Charlotte got some one? I'm all some niggas on Instagram

531
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: from Charlotte. Well, they friends, and I'm like, which one

532
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: they in.

533
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: The little Charlotte. Number three is New York, which I do.

534
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I believe it.

535
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hold you dating in New York. Now,

536
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: it might get tough because there's a lot of volume

537
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: like in Atlanta, but there's a lot of motherfuckers in

538
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: New York. Bitch, go outside, you've had the summer. If

539
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: you wasn't at a black party, what the fuck was

540
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: you doing, probe, get your ass out of the house,

541
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: wake up home.

542
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Number two Chicago and number one Yago got them ones

543
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: to Houston, Texas.

544
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: Now what's crazy about Houston, Texas is I remember going

545
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: to Risky over there and they said that was some

546
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: of the highest rates for black women with HIV. And

547
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: like Florida didn't make the listen all for black.

548
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Singles for love, no big for black singles. We all

549
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: been down at this survey. Where would you think black

550
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: singles in Florida? I don't know made Miami? No, they

551
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: all speak Spanish.

552
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: Seven of these cities have the highest rates of HIV

553
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: in the country. By the way, that's because the dick

554
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: is good and you forget to put the condom on.

555
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: So let me tell you the cities that don't. They're

556
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: also Republican. They also don't have some second like let's

557
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: say all of the things. But so Charlotte, Detroit, and

558
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: Dallas are the only ones with the low rates from

559
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: that list, which is crazy when you think about it,

560
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: because it's like Texas to me, especially with like the

561
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: reversal Roe v. Wade people just not wanting even to

562
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: walk into a planned parenthood all of that shit. I

563
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: know a lot of them aren't really getting tested to

564
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: going down in Texas as well, so but Dallas maybe

565
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: because more white people.

566
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: I love Dallas really why?

567
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: I just loved, I love, I love just the shout

568
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: out to Dallas. I go every Thanksgiving, even though I

569
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: might not go this year for Thanksgiving because she got

570
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: a baby and might be at his house anyway, But

571
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: just love Dallas. Out of these oh wait, shout out

572
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: to uh, well, if you're from Dallas, right, we talked,

573
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: We've talked about and he got a Cowboys shirt off.

574
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Where out of these cities have y'all had some luck

575
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: in dating all of them?

576
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: I had a nigga every last one of them cities.

577
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: I think I've had everything that Detroit and Chicago detroittment

578
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: is that billy y'all tell you this though away, I'm

579
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: not gonna you get you a little Root's picnic type

580
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: of nigga that read out Auncle Bobby's baby in the

581
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: feeling Wow, they have a I don't rapper, you know,

582
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

583
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I told you, I ain't doing the Muslims. Why not?

584
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: What what happened? They types of Muslim in New York?

585
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like they're like the Malcolm Mexicans. Okay, they're

586
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: like Malcolm was fine though, was very fine. But they're

587
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: like the ones that converted through your day. You would

588
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: put he drop off for Kevin Gates. Let us not forget.

589
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: By the way, that was entertainment. But my problem is,

590
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: and I think that's why somebody else now though, So

591
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he hold on. Let me see

592
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: can have That's the thing. Muscles can have multiple wives.

593
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

594
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: If I started running broke, i'd have my ass out.

595
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Something gotta be balanced.

596
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: You're your faces out, your hands will be out. Makeup,

597
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: they make up down face. We had a tour Ones.

598
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: We excuse me.

599
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: We had a show on tour Ones where a Mustlim

600
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: girl walked to the door. And I know, because you

601
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: know you book a makeup, I don't really know what

602
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: they look like. This bitch came to my hotel room.

603
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: I said, I know this ship gonna be.

604
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Getting the lashes out because I'm not your god ship.

605
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: He said, it's gonna be good.

606
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, I would love when you Love

607
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: East baddies to come in here and we could do

608
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: anonymous tell us how you be hose because my man

609
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: was telling me when he was ramping in the streets,

610
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: he was like, all them holes.

611
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: In yah said, they was really even right.

612
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it's like he's like, yeah, they are religious,

613
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: but like hed be wont the fuck He's like, I'm

614
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: never there first.

615
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: He's like, they just be ready to go. He said,

616
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: they all be every day people. I'm pointing out the bitches. Sorry,

617
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I know. Wolf. I was like, I was like from

618
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Dallas and the Cowboys. He has people, but he jibs.

619
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I can't.

620
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Okay, now we're gonna get into Howard try. This is

621
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: where you're gonna get a song lyric, Mandy, don't guess

622
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: that you're gonna know from the first word. I say, Okay, Dan, Yelle,

623
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: this is for you. This is almost too damn easy.

624
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull like a verse from it that

625
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: you may not get.

626
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

627
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Slow head, show me so much love. The best head

628
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: comes from a thug. The dick, good thick, big and long,

629
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: slow thumping till the crack of dawn on the X.

630
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Making faces and stuff.

631
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: The girl what through the night making so much love

632
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: dead sleep when the sun comes up, you still ain't well.

633
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I bet you. I got it in my mind. Go

634
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: go go so look it now, look it good? Yeah,

635
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: just like keep going. I don't know the name of

636
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: the song, but I know what you're talking about.

637
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: Yes you do, I don't right now, looking good in

638
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: my mind. Lick this pussy just like you should. It

639
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: was just a commercial now now we get my back

640
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: was just commercial commercial.

641
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: It was commercial walk before I walk? You know what?

642
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: You know?

643
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: She said that song keep her pape. Yes, the way

644
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: they sample and put that song every much. It was

645
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: about a gym or something like wait what yeah, they

646
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: you know how they put the commercials and they'll take

647
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: the song and then they remixed it and there she

648
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: was like all the women out there get ready to

649
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: go to the gym.

650
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? And then you hear

651
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: the beat in the background. I just walked up like

652
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: you live in l A. This was for something around

653
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: the corner in New York. This is New York. My neck,

654
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: my back for a gym is funny. I mean, I do.

655
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Let me get your bread.

656
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Let's do some myth busting. Tell

657
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: us a little bit about some of the people you've

658
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: interacted with and maybe some of the craziest misconceptions you've

659
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: heard when they've come to you for HIV prevention and help,

660
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: or maybe just being confused.

661
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Around their status.

662
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Like, I just kind of want to get into what

663
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: you do and the people you've encountered with your work.

664
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of everything. So I started

665
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: out wanting to understand more about how HIV affected Black

666
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: women specifically. I was in a class once in this

667
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: instructor was talking about how Black women are disproportionately affected

668
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: by HIV, and I'm like, why is this something that

669
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: we do that makes us more prone to it? Is

670
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: the biological? Is it genetic? What is it? And so girl,

671
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: I started to unpack all of the things, both social

672
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: structural policy related. So I started to volunteer on a

673
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: mobile testing unit. So mobile testing units before they were

674
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: not a thing where you would go to homeless encampments,

675
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: college campuses, anywhere you could drive. We will pull up,

676
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: pop the tent, be outside, and then people would just

677
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: come up to us and ask us for an HIV test.

678
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't see them as often anymore. No, I think

679
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: so some maybe funding it could be funding. I think

680
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: part of its funding. Part of it is that people

681
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: who are in positions of power believe that it's more

682
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: practical for someone to walk into a clinic, then walk

683
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: to a corner work and hop on them.

684
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: In my early twenties, I was getting tested I say annually,

685
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: like like that nineteen to twenty four age yep, I

686
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: was getting tested whenever I went to a doctor, right,

687
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: but HIV specific testing was always a bus, always, actually

688
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: always a bus. Like it was almost like, oh, one

689
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: will pop up a gospel. I don't know, like that

690
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: was really just me.

691
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: You know, in community, you can go on a van

692
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: with people who are trained in sexual health, who can

693
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: administer you a test, give you results in twenty or

694
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: forty or one minute, and you were about, yeah, I'm

695
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna need that one minute. You don't have to go

696
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: in and click in, check in with somebody at the

697
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: front desk who got an attitude because they at work,

698
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: or wait thirty seven million minutes to see a provider.

699
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Boom checkswibby, your mouth, poke your finger and you were out.

700
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: The poking of the finger.

701
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: I remember even getting it done as early as high

702
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: school because I used to be able to get out

703
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: of class for the blood drives, but in order to

704
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: be a part of the blood drive they would It

705
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: would be the same thing.

706
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: School based health centers. You can go right to the

707
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: back boo boo, and they can't tell you. You can't

708
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: walk off campus to go to a school based health center.

709
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: It's part of you can't they can't tell you.

710
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: So one of my craziest tests I ever had was

711
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: during the music festival. I don't know what the fuck

712
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: I was thinking and shout out to VINNI. I always

713
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: remember his reaction. I was twenty one, maybe got on

714
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: this bus.

715
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what they was given out. They must

716
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: have been given.

717
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: Out something, because why else was I wearing a tu

718
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: tuo and getting an HIV test?

719
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I was probably fut up. They might have tested me

720
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: for drugs and HIV. But where were you want with

721
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the tutu?

722
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Though I was at a grade, I was at music festival, okay,

723
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: So when he saw me getting on the bus that

724
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: I came off, I was like, I have to wait

725
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: twenty minutes.

726
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: He goes, but what did you have it? Why would

727
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: you do this to us for trying to have a

728
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: good time. And I was like, ship, oh my god, no,

729
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: but he was right, now, okay, get your sexual help together.

730
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh think about it. You had a concert and he's like, bitch,

731
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: now what if you got it d We paid four

732
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: my god.

733
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is in a room out

734
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: Vinnie's our tour manager too. I'm telling you that. I

735
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: stood there, we were waiting and the guy was like, sorry,

736
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: it's taking too long. Now He's looking at me and

737
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: he was like, but you really did this to us, y'all.

738
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: We are sitting there with four other friends and the

739
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: guy came off the bus. They shared our results of

740
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: us on site.

741
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, isn't that great where you can

742
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: get your results? And then if you would have tested positive,

743
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: you would have been pull me back on that bus.

744
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: You would have been connected to care.

745
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Now tell me one of the craziest stories you've heard,

746
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: one of even something that is a little bit darker,

747
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: said whether be a married woman. It is something like that,

748
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: like that you found out how the HIV and had to.

749
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: Tell I was downtown skip Row in LA and I

750
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: already noticed about to go. Oh yeah, so you see

751
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: some of the most disparaging human conditions that you've ever seen.

752
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: And we were downtown skid Row and there was this guy.

753
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It was the first positive, a preliminary

754
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: positive result I've ever had to give. And you're in

755
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: skid Row. It's a bunch of tents, people are parked

756
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: at a park. They're just kind of vibing. So I

757
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: found this guy. He came on we were doing like

758
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: twenty dollars subway cards. He got his test, and you

759
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: have to find the person and administer the test result.

760
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: But you bring him back on the van and then

761
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: you connect them to care as best you can. But

762
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: before you go back and get that person, you have

763
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: to have your things in a row. So if they

764
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: test prelim positive, you want to be in a position

765
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: where you're not fumbling looking for resources. You have your

766
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: care plan lined up, so that person is immediately warmed off,

767
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: warm handed off to an HIV care specialist so that

768
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: they can take further test results and then get in care.

769
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: So I found this man and he was like just

770
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: standing on the street and a bunch of guys and

771
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: it's already awkward. They know you work on the HIV bus.

772
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: So you're going back down and interrupting this group of

773
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: guys vibing, and you're like, gonna talk to you for

774
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: a minute, and so everybody looking at him, and so

775
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: it's awkward. So you're automatically putting him in a position

776
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: to make people in his circle wonder that could be

777
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: dangerous for someone who lives on the street.

778
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I say, I would never have thought of that.

779
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, So you're interrupting this this social dynamic and

780
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: asking him to come back to the test. Why people

781
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: are gonna ask why. So if I felt that I

782
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: had put him in harm's way by giving his result

783
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: the way I gave it, he didn't wait at the

784
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: mobile unit, so I have to go find him. He

785
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: had already tested prelim positive. So my responsibility is to

786
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: connect him to care immediately so that he can get

787
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: on HIV manage, get his virus suppressed, and then get

788
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: access to any other social services that he may have needed.

789
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: So how do the meds work, because I want to

790
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 2: talk about specifically PREP and the meds because.

791
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: They work the same way interrupt the So for people

792
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: who are living with HIV, it interrupts the ability of

793
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: the HIV virus to replicate. You take it daily, right,

794
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: it could be daily, or if you're taking a shot,

795
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: it could be less frequent than daily. It can be monthly, quarterly,

796
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: six months. The scientists moving at rapid pace.

797
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: Because we just know Magic Johnson and everybody always used

798
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: to say he must be rich, he must have the

799
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: thing to.

800
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: Make you get rid of it. He lived this on.

801
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: Magic was just in DC the other day at the

802
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: largest HIV conference domestically. He was on the stage saying

803
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: that he takes it to HIV meds like everybody else

804
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: who's diagnosed with HIV.

805
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: And what exactly is we keep saying prep, prep, prep?

806
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: What is it? Is it a shot? Is it pills?

807
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: It's both, it's both, and depending on your sex assigned

808
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: at birth, you have access to different options of prep. Hmmm.

809
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: Now, the girlfriend's episode about being undetectable, Yeah, tell us

810
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: a little bit about that. Can you, like bring back

811
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: that episode the HIV conversation and it can we relive

812
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: that moment with you?

813
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: Tell us about it. So you're talking about where she

814
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: was using a knife and then she bled and everybody

815
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: was like and it's like I was sitting there like girl,

816
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: and so I have nieces who are like my babies.

817
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: I have to know me is to know how I

818
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: am about my family. So we were watching this episode,

819
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: so I oriented them to like ninety sitcoms, and so

820
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: we would like Netflix and just kind of vibe out.

821
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: So there was this one episode and they pulled that

822
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: episode right, don't give a damn. You can find it anywhere?

823
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: Did they really?

824
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: A lot of it's so I know a lot offlix. Well,

825
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: a lot of episodes from the nineties that had like

826
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: problematic things because we now are in a very.

827
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: You know, but they sensitive anything they can find it.

828
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: But a lot of a lot of episodes around certain

829
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: topics and just how it was handled.

830
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I want to say, I thought it was poor. We're

831
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: gonna find that clip so y'all can see it today.

832
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: Find it.

833
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: So with that whole with the whole slicing thing, et cetera.

834
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: How is how does transmission work outside of sex?

835
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: So HIV transmission we talked about yesterday. Rites spread five

836
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: different ways, two from him, two from her when you share,

837
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: and so if there is a biological fluid that is

838
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: being exchanged, then there's a possibility of HIV transmission. It

839
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: could be a greater possibility or lesser possibility? So what

840
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: are the two from him too? From her pre come

841
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: pre come but them that's him. Blood is one you share? Okay,

842
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: everybody's got blood, right, and then her vaginal secretions, breast milk,

843
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: oh god, it got it? Everyone from him? Two from

844
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: her one you share and so not from spit at all.

845
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: We had this conversation, I know, but I don't.

846
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 3: Find bringing it on here because I thought this spit

847
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: at one point was so can I swallow semen and

848
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: that person as HIV?

849
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm now at risk? Are are they undetectable risk for what? Okay?

850
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: So you have to qualify not risk, but possibility. Risk

851
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: is a very stigmatizing word. So what's the possibility of

852
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: what getting getting HIV from swallowing? Yes, from swallowing semen? Yeah,

853
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: but you just looked up and it's you looked up,

854
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: you googled, or you use your friend chat, and what

855
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: did chat say about HIV or other sdis in the throat?

856
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: It does say you can get HIV. There, it's a possibility. Okay,

857
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: so you need to consult a medical provider. Okay.

858
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Now, what is the number one way men and women

859
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: heterosexual couples are contracting HIV.

860
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: Do sexual context penetrative sex unprotected and partners could potentially

861
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: be unaware of one one's status and one person could

862
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: be virally could not be virallly suppressed.

863
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: Is that through cuts? It's not through a cut, you're

864
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: saying it's secretion. I feel like we always thought it

865
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: was a viral blood disease growing up. So it's like, oh,

866
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: and that's why anal sex made so much sense. Oh,

867
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: of course, because anal tearing. So men and women having

868
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: vaginal penetrative sex.

869
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: But you you missed one point though. Yeah, let's take

870
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: us back to this. You equals you are undetectable, equals untransmittable.

871
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: So if my virus is suppressed, I have virtually no

872
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: possibility of transmitting HIV to someone else. Now, if it's not,

873
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: then there is the possibility. Right, So if absent, this

874
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: unsuppressed viral low anal tearing means what you address a

875
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: different issue. It could be related to size, it could

876
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: be related to technique, it could be related to activity.

877
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: So it isn't anal sex that increases possibility for HIV possibility.

878
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: It's the undiagnosed and untreated virally not suppressed HIV that

879
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: could create the issue. It's not the sex itself at all.

880
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: It could be through vaginal sex, it could be through

881
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: anal sex, whatever type of sex you want to have.

882
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: We want to encourage people to do all of the things,

883
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: all including getting tested, taking PREP if you want to

884
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: take it, but taking your med prescribed if you are

885
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: someone who is diagnosed, to reduce that risk of transmission

886
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: of HIV to your sexual partners. It's about being aware,

887
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: not someone. We don't want to lay the blame at

888
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: the feet of someone living with HIV regardless. You and

889
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: I had this conversation a couple like about a week ago.

890
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: It's about empowerment, knowing your status and then taking the

891
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: necessary steps to protect yourself thereafter to the of your ability.

892
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything you'd want to leave our listeners with

893
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: who may not be I don't know, just in the

894
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: know on where to get prepped, don't feel like they've

895
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: got community enough to discuss this with.

896
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: That's that that blows me sometimes, because I know we

897
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: talk from a place of privilege. Knowledge is power. We

898
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: know about PREP, we know about all the things. We

899
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: feel empowered to advocate for our sexual health. But some

900
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: women are not. Some women are not. I've heard stories

901
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: from women who are in abusive relationships, who have partners

902
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: who do horrible things to them sexually that they don't

903
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: always have control over. But you want to encourage people

904
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: to find a community and answer your DMS. Okay, we'll

905
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: do the community.

906
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: And also, is there any website just for where someone

907
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: in the country can like figure out how to get

908
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: it done, where to get it done, just get more info.

909
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Ah. So I'm trying to think there are tons of

910
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: different resources planned parenthood. As you mention, I know you

911
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: love a good plant parenthood. So parenthood has resources. It's

912
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: just the easiest. I will say that plan parenthood is yeah,

913
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: in your local state health department.

914
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it depends on where you live. Depends on

915
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: where you live, depends on where you live.

916
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: But also some pharmaceutical companies have amazing websites related to

917
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: the drugs that they manufacture. Okay, but I would start

918
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: with a good instagram of plant parenthood. They have diagrams,

919
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: they have memes, they have videos, testimonials. They are not

920
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: just the abortion place, y'all.

921
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, They're the birth control place, They're the HIV prevention place.

922
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: Just go over there gender affirming care place.

923
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: Oh great, how about that. There might be a little

924
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: bit of crazies outside with the signs.

925
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: I give them a girl, walk right past them and

926
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: do your business. Jesus love you there.

927
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, bitch, sorry he sent you out here today with

928
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: the hole spiel.

929
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us on the

930
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: podcast today and having this conversation. Thanks for having me.

931
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: Hopefully we encouraged and urged you and we're gonna pave

932
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: you the us to go and.

933
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Get tested because it's not as scary as y'all. Goddamn think,

934
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: what are you waiting? And we're all humans sometimes we're

935
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: afraid of the thing. I'm telling everybody, get tested in

936
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. I can't have a good time. It's

937
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: definitely not forty eight hours anymore. And HIV is immediate,

938
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: that's correct. HIV.

939
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: I was still waiting for the provider and my HIV

940
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: result was in my amati. We had a great time

941
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: speaking to doctor Danielle. We are even more excited to

942
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: introduce our next conversation with our m B legend Raheem Devon.

943
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: He is known for his soul full, love centered R

944
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: and B. But what a lot of people do not

945
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: realize is how deeply involved he is in his advocacy,

946
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: especially around HIV prevention. Raheem has been doing the work

947
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: of educating black men about the importance of getting tested,

948
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: knowing their status, and having real, honest conversations about sexual health.

949
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 3: He's also been using his platform to spread awareness around

950
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 3: prep the HIV prevention medication, and to normalize brothers taking

951
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: control of their health without shame or stigma. We are

952
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: really excited to continue this conversation and without further ado,

953
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: please enjoy our conversation with Raheem Devon.

954
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody here, we are with Rahem Devon. We are

955
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: out of the studio in person and we just had

956
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: to join because y'all know I love niggas with drid

957
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: So that's really what sorry, I mean singer songwriters. But

958
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: first what I pulled up on Google. Raheem Devon is

959
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: an American R and B singer songwriter, a tourus known

960
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: for smooth vocals and romantic themes.

961
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what chat GPT's got for you?

962
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: Rahim influenced by his father's music and his mother's vinyl

963
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: collection from the DMV, and also a radio personality, philanthropic,

964
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: We love all of that.

965
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: I almost couldn't say that word. I got braceist.

966
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 5: But everybody walking, yeah, hey going.

967
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: Can I also say shout out to anyone that had

968
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: a vinyl collection because I thought that was gonna be

969
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: like my little cheap hobby.

970
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: I did had no clue then.

971
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers were like sixty to eighty dollars a peak. That

972
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: is an expensive hobby.

973
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't back then. Was it is that expensive

974
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: back then?

975
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: No? Back then I thought they were ten cents. I

976
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: thought I was about to get vinyls for ten cents.

977
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, are you know anything?

978
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: You know? You know anything costs more.

979
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Now Nigga's got an aesthetic.

980
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: Like when you go into somebody's house and they got vinyls,

981
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: I'd be like, wow, he is so like.

982
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: Thee Yeah, check on my vinyl baby.

983
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: Inflation has hit the vinyls. Well, Reggie really excited to

984
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: have you.

985
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about a lot of things today,

986
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: but what we're really excited to I have the conversation

987
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: with you about is you being an advocate for prep

988
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: and continuing the conversation specific specifically as a heterosexual black

989
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: man and the conversation around PREP. So I guess before

990
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: we start, can we talk about how you got involved

991
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: with this specific campaign and why it's so important for

992
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: you to talk about it?

993
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: For sure? Well, I started my foundation, the Love Life Foundation,

994
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 5: back in twenty twelve. So one of our major initiatives

995
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: has always been HIV awareness and among other things, domestic

996
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 5: violence and you know, textbook scholarships for the you for

997
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: kids and you know, in my area here in the DMV,

998
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: So I always been doing things as it relates to community.

999
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 5: But how I found out about how I found out

1000
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 5: about PREP was my primary care physician, who I've had

1001
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: for some a few years now at the time, a

1002
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 5: little after COVID, I was searching for a new doctor.

1003
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: Stumbled upon doctor Hodge, who's out here in my area

1004
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 5: in the DMV. And one of the first things probably

1005
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 5: he asked me, getting like leading into the conversation as

1006
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 5: we were talking about sexual health. And you know, he's

1007
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: drawing my blood and doing the you know, the NECESSF

1008
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: the first physical primary care physical. You know, we're getting

1009
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 5: acquainted with each other. He says, are you on PREP?

1010
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 5: And uh? And I said, and I said no, and

1011
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 5: and and you know, at the time. I mean, I

1012
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 5: want to say, maybe I had heard about that there

1013
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 5: was a medication but didn't quite know what it was.

1014
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 5: You know, and with all the different types of stigmas

1015
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 5: out you hear all these different things. So but it

1016
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: was the first time that that, you know, I had

1017
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 5: had a primary care doctor, you know, or where they

1018
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: just blameant, just like straight up asked. And you know,

1019
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: he went on to tell me about statistically what's going

1020
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 5: on in d C and how you know HIV was

1021
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: back on the rise. He asked if I was married.

1022
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: He has read a lot of questions and he strongly

1023
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 5: suggested we trying. And you know, I quickly asked about

1024
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: the side effects. You know what I mean, I'll all

1025
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: consider myself like outside outside, but if you know, if

1026
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 5: you're outside your outside, you know, think about HIV. Is

1027
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 5: that anybody could be HIV possible? Everybody's HIV possible, meaning

1028
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 5: if you don't do the proper things, had to you know,

1029
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 5: get tested regularly, had to you know, sexual health conversations

1030
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: you need to have with your partner. So I said,

1031
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: I try it. I've been on there ever since. You know,

1032
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 5: you're here.

1033
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: In one moment, I I the question will not leave

1034
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 3: my head, and I have to ask you, and it's

1035
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: going to be completely ignorant. I lean into my ignorance

1036
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: because I have questions that maybe other people are asking.

1037
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 5: Lean with it.

1038
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh so did your primary care physician tell you or

1039
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: ask you or educate you on PREP just because you

1040
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: were in a city with high rates like DC, or

1041
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: did they ask you first, hey, are you.

1042
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Having sex with men?

1043
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: To my knowledge, PREP for a long time was only

1044
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: offered to men having sex with other men, so not

1045
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: to you know, super ask you about your sexuality. But

1046
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: how did your primary care physician straight up ask you

1047
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: without knowing your sexual history?

1048
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 5: No, definitely ask my sexual history, like you know, you

1049
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: know what I mean. You know, you got to get

1050
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: a pro state uh check in the physical. Well, you

1051
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 5: got all the things, so you know, I was just

1052
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: as as honest and transparent as I wanted to be,

1053
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 5: you know, with as you know, we got hippo law

1054
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: and all that kind of thing. So I felt comfortable,

1055
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 5: you know, And and of course it wasn't like that

1056
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: it would be my first physical or visit to a

1057
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: doctor's office, you know what I mean. But I think, honestly,

1058
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: I think it was purely out of uh, just like

1059
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 5: genuine concern and sexual health conversations, you know what I mean,

1060
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: That that that he was letting me know like, hey,

1061
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 5: there's something out here that that you know, that can

1062
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 5: kill you, and there's something out here that that can

1063
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 5: be a great say it can be it can save you,

1064
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 5: be a perpenitive measure, you know, Like it's not it's

1065
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 5: not the green light, the go grow dog in it,

1066
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like just just not not

1067
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 5: at all, because obviously it's it's it's a long list

1068
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 5: of other things that that that that are out there

1069
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 5: that we don't want, you know, s T I S

1070
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. So I mean, he really broke

1071
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 5: it down and made me feel very He made me

1072
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 5: feel very comfortable to have a conversation, you know, me

1073
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 5: me in particular, I was looking for a black doctor,

1074
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 5: just me in particular, you know what I mean at

1075
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 5: the time and wed we immediately like hit it off

1076
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 5: and had a and and and and and you know,

1077
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: and I feel like it was coming from a place

1078
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: of like who I am or what I do? You know,

1079
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because I've been you know,

1080
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: being a public figure can be it could be I

1081
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 5: won't say annoying, but you know, I've been in places

1082
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 5: where like I'm not trying to I'm not trying to

1083
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: dap you up in the restroom home or literally or

1084
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 5: literally getting you know, getting an HIV testing. It's like

1085
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 5: can I get an autograph? And I'm like, that's crazy,

1086
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 5: are you?

1087
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean.

1088
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, so so you know so so yeah again,

1089
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 5: you know, doctor, he's amazing. You know I had I

1090
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 5: did have a lot of questions. I too, I too

1091
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 5: have heard have have heard you know, and and and

1092
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: and now that I know what I know that yeah,

1093
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: like you know, this is not a you know, HIV

1094
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: is not a lgbt Q thing. HIV is a global, yeah,

1095
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 5: pandemic epidemic.

1096
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: That that that.

1097
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: It's back on the rise. You know, I come from

1098
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 5: a I come from an era where there was a

1099
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 5: lot of messaging, you know, and you just don't see

1100
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 5: that anymore, you know what I mean. So you can

1101
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: there you know they're there, there are you know, there

1102
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 5: are there children my you know, my oldest son is

1103
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 5: my oldest son is twenty, you know what I mean.

1104
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: So his brother right behind him a seventeen. So you

1105
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: know they're there for they're you know, there are folks

1106
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: out here they don't know what HIV is, which is crazy.

1107
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, I really wanted to tell y'all you just

1108
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: had me thinking of this. I completely wanted to share

1109
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 2: this story, but forgot this was a perfect time. Last

1110
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: week I got tested and for some reason, I was nervous,

1111
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: because you know it, you cannot fuck for a year

1112
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: still be nervous. And the doctor saw me being nervous

1113
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: and she goes, have you heard about PREP? I said, yes,

1114
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: I have a sister, and you know what, I appreciate

1115
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: you saying that I don't know what I'm giving off.

1116
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: And just how Mandy asked you, did the doctor assume

1117
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: you might have been gay or sleep well? Man? I

1118
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: was starting to think to myself because we all have

1119
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: that stigma no matter who we are, even though we're

1120
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: all advocates. I was like, does she think I'm a

1121
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: home or she just saying it because I'm nervous, And

1122
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: it's like, we actually have to get over and it's

1123
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: me here right wanting to tell everybody to get on

1124
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: this thing.

1125
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: But I was also like, damn, I can't believe that

1126
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: even came into my brain.

1127
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: So I can't imagine those of you listening that are

1128
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: like maybe feeling a little pressured to get on prep

1129
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: or feeling like you don't need it because you ain't

1130
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: out here. But it's the pool, the dating pool that

1131
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: we're in, right. You could be with one person, but

1132
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: when rates are as high as they are, that one

1133
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: person can be affected. But speaking of one person, I

1134
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: wanted to play a little icebreaker game with you, Mandy,

1135
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: and I love to do this with our guest, and

1136
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna have some good answers, so

1137
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: you will play smash your pasts.

1138
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: But it's.

1139
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: So even now to honesty their past sex and longestant relationships. Okay,

1140
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: so she is a ten, but you find out by

1141
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: scrolling on her ig before the date that she's been

1142
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: to a bunch of your shows before, even though she

1143
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: says she's never heard your music.

1144
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna smash your past.

1145
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna past and she's a man.

1146
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: Depend on what she looked like.

1147
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm a past because.

1148
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: He said she's a liar helped the game. She's a ten.

1149
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 5: I mean with these so you gotta factor and the

1150
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 5: lion you know, you know that's it's that seems like

1151
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: while why live about something like live about the little things,

1152
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: live about the big things, and and the and the

1153
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: and and then there's a lot of other things that

1154
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 5: come into play, like what what's what's the what's what's

1155
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 5: the agenda?

1156
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 1: Like what you know to get your money?

1157
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 5: What's what's the alternated?

1158
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: Okay for the past, she's a ten But five years

1159
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: ago on Twitter, she said, damn Donald Trump really starting

1160
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: a new wave?

1161
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean.

1162
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: Five years ago, five years ago meaning meaning like we're

1163
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 5: going meaning like meaning like we are, we're already together.

1164
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: And then and then like one day I stumbled upon.

1165
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: The old you didn't smash yet, so you're gonna smash

1166
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: your pass based on the tweet it was five years ago.

1167
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 5: Though, Yeah, I'm a probably past.

1168
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm smashing and we're having a conversation. And depending how

1169
00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: far you are.

1170
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, let me say that it ain't

1171
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: gonna be paid. It wouldn't be just upon that that

1172
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: I'm going to base my decision. No either, So so

1173
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 5: there's a there's a few other dynamics that are involved.

1174
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 5: But you know, maybe be there. How about this. I

1175
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: smashed and I'm good and I'm there for a good time,

1176
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 5: not a long.

1177
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: Time while Okay, all right, hold on a ten your

1178
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: dreams celebrity crush. You've been liking all her photos on

1179
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: I G. She says, Hey, rahiem, I'm in Australia on set.

1180
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: I can't leave, but I want you to come and

1181
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: see me. Are you gonna blindly fly out to smash.

1182
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 5: Hell? No, they got all kind of face recognition of

1183
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 5: what they got, all kind of you said, you said,

1184
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 5: you said, Am I flying out off of the You're not.

1185
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: Going to Australia to beat your celebrity streets?

1186
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: Na, not without not not not not without confirming that.

1187
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: It's really it's they're writing you back.

1188
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 5: You're having this convent, we're having this conversation on.

1189
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: On I G G.

1190
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 5: You want me to assume they're real. We don't live

1191
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 5: in the era. We don't do We don't live in

1192
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: the air where you can assume me. You got to

1193
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 5: fight check everything now flight or not? Oh for sure,

1194
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 5: for sure, like depending on what. Absolutely it's my dream

1195
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: celebrity now absolute, absolutely absolutely Australia am back.

1196
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: I'll go to Middle America. What are we talking about? Australia,

1197
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: But I'll go to funking Dayton Ohio, what I'm thinking

1198
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: of Australia.

1199
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: Okay, she's a ten, but it's the final one that

1200
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: sex related. She thinks Prep is a little gay.

1201
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Now do you mean to educate?

1202
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 5: Do you still I'm not so so one, I'm not

1203
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 5: insecure about my sexuality, you know what I mean? So

1204
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: so yeah, so I'm I'm I'm that's an opportunity to educate,

1205
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like I've and and and ironically,

1206
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 5: you know, you know, I've dated and since being on prep,

1207
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 5: I've had to have a conversation, Hey, I'm on prep,

1208
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: and it was it's it's a it's a It's amazing

1209
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 5: the amount of people who still think, you know, which

1210
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: is which is a crazy stigma that it's only for

1211
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 5: gay people or you know, I.

1212
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: Mean, I can imagine explaining it as a as a man,

1213
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: like because even as a woman.

1214
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: I was just telling my boyfriend about it and he

1215
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: was like, so does that mean you have sex with

1216
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: guys that have sex with guys? Like what does that mean?

1217
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: And and we're open, so we have sex with other people.

1218
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: And the conversation literally went to educating that, especially as

1219
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: someone who goes to sex clubs, who has other partners.

1220
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: It's just like mind you and I use condoms with everybody,

1221
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: but boy, do I just not trust anybody for real?

1222
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: And again, like kind of like you said, h HIV

1223
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: is you know, it's it's possible for anybody. It doesn't

1224
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: care who it attaches itself to.

1225
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: It literally can be for all of us.

1226
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: You had a QR code before they can meet you

1227
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: to learn about PREP.

1228
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, to learn about HIV, to learn about health,

1229
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: to learn about PREP, to notice statistics of what was

1230
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 5: going on, statistics, what's going on? Yeah?

1231
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you bring that up because like

1232
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: so many people have a negative thought on celebrities who

1233
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: get involved, say with you know, voting and elections and

1234
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: getting into politics.

1235
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: I love that you're getting into this space. And we've

1236
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: seen other artists recently talk about PREP as well. I

1237
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: know Tamar has talked about it. Do a liipa cardi B.

1238
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, however, though, taking the celebrity

1239
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: out of it, how do you have this conversation with

1240
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: your male counterparts, with your friends. I don't know many

1241
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: other men advocating for this at this moment, celebrity wise

1242
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: or just influencer wise. So I would like to know,

1243
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: how does this conversation start or begin with your male friends, Like,

1244
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: are you also educating them outside of black women? We

1245
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: know that that's who we're trying to reach, but we

1246
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: also have a lot of black male listeners here as well.

1247
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: What do those conversations look like?

1248
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely having a conversation. I mean, for me, it's

1249
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: it's it's you know, it's easy. You know, most of

1250
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 5: my male friends, most of my closest in a circle

1251
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 5: that I can think of, everybody's married except for me,

1252
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And which which By the way,

1253
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 5: taking it back a step with doctor Hodge, he mentioned

1254
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 5: to me when he was when he was telling me

1255
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 5: about rep You know, that was one of the things

1256
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 5: that kind of stood out to me, I think in

1257
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 5: that conversation that day, is that he has married couples

1258
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 5: that are on app for a number of different reasons

1259
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 5: as well. Okay, you know what I mean, so that

1260
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 5: you know, so it was just it was just that

1261
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 5: he was just telling he was just just being like

1262
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 5: really raw and honest, just just what he's seeing it

1263
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 5: on the day to day, you know what I mean.

1264
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 5: The fact that uh, you know, people are stepping outside

1265
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 5: of their relationships. You know that maybe maybe maybe they're

1266
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: you know, maybe maybe they what one partner thinks is

1267
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 5: a monogamous relationship while living a poly lifestyle, Like just

1268
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 5: so many things, not being honest about their partners about

1269
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 5: you know, their sexual health, of what it is they're into.

1270
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1271
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean when you when you thawt

1272
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: to your homeboys and we we know homies share like

1273
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: when they have side chicks or when they're stepping out,

1274
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: Like are those moments that you that you would bring

1275
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: up prep to your friends? Like again, like I know

1276
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: the importance of bringing this to public platforms and going

1277
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: on tour with you, but I think it's important also

1278
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: to talk about how these conversations can be had in

1279
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: the group chat or over a spade game or how

1280
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: to cookout, Like how are you bringing this into your

1281
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: personal life?

1282
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely? I mean for me, Like again, it's an easy

1283
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 5: conversation because I'm not you know, if any conversation that

1284
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 5: can save you know, my life, my homies life, Like

1285
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to have a conversation, right, but I had

1286
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 5: a conversation with my twenty year old son and my

1287
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: seventeen year old in particular, you know what I mean,

1288
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 5: I mean we we're out and I mean I was

1289
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 5: just I'm one of those dads. It's like we have

1290
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 5: like warp sense of humor anyway, so that so that

1291
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: allows us to be able to kind of like tie into,

1292
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 5: you know, conversations about sex. I mean, I think, I think,

1293
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: I think it. I think it never be I don't

1294
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 5: know if it ever becomes comfortable for your kid that

1295
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 5: like want to talk to you about like what they

1296
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: got going on sexually, you know, dating, you know, you

1297
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and coming and coming to you

1298
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: for a vice. He in there, but but I like

1299
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: to always I like for them, I always know that

1300
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 5: the doors open and had a conversations, you know. So

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Speaker 5: you know, my oldest he's in he's in the military.

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Speaker 5: He's an airman and stationed out in Arizona. So I know,

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: like I'm pretty certain he's no.

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: No, you know, my my sister and my brother are

1305
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: army veteran.

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know he gets some sticky and I've been

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 5: and I've been on a base of two in a lifetime.

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01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Maybe now, no, you hear something crazy.

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: We had a risky dinner that I've been doing with

1310
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: Gilliad and y'all probably seen it.

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01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: It's the whole red thing.

1312
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: So one of the women at the dinner starts the

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: conversation by saying, yo, like, I can't have children anymore

1314
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: due to a sexually transmitted infection I had. So I'm

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: telling y'all make sure you protect yourself. This is like

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: first five minutes of dinner, right, so everybody judging her.

1317
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: An hour later we started getting to the real thing.

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: She's like, I was on the base with my husband.

1319
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: You got to get tested to even obviously get into

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Speaker 2: the military, she said.

1321
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: While being there, her man was such a hey.

1322
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: She found out when she got her next annual that

1323
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: he ended up giving her something. And because she wasn't

1324
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: able to check because like you know, they were busy,

1325
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,439
Speaker 2: they were doing anything, they're not getting tested as often.

1326
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: She literally they had to remove her fallopian tubes. And

1327
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: she said to me and the rest of the women

1328
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: at this dinner, like, y'all are married at this table,

1329
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: not realizing that this protective conversation also has to do

1330
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: with you. It ain't just me, it ain't just the

1331
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: other single bitches here, Like, we're all included in this.

1332
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: And when you think about how so many people in

1333
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: relationships feel safer.

1334
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I'm not on the streets no more. I'm good.

1335
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: Like this conversation is for everybody, not just the three

1336
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: of us who are outside. You know, like sometimes Mandy

1337
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: and I are talking about things, our open relationships and

1338
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: the fun crazy things we do, and I really feel

1339
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: like people be listening to us or you know, a

1340
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: mean comment saying like.

1341
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh they why they this. I'm not doing it.

1342
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm not putting myself at risk that may be out

1343
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: with his friends, like it's the same.

1344
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was, and that was and you know,

1345
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 5: and that was the conversation you know that I have

1346
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 5: with the boys. It was just like just like, hey,

1347
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 5: just so you know, there's something out here called HIV

1348
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 5: that can become as you know what I mean, and

1349
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 5: it can kill you. And you know, it was interesting

1350
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 5: because they don't it's not being talked about and you know,

1351
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 5: amongst amongst their them and their crews and you know,

1352
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 5: their their their their age bracket, you know what I mean.

1353
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: So are you single or are you dating? Single?

1354
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: Dating?

1355
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: Or that's the same thing.

1356
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

1357
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: Because I want to know how you bring this conversation

1358
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: to any of your partners as a man, how do you.

1359
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: Say, let's get tested together?

1360
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: Do you have any stories of how that conversation happens

1361
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 2: while dating?

1362
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 5: I've dated, and I've dated and had I've been in

1363
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 5: multiple situations where I've dated and where we sat down

1364
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 5: and like got tested like before we did whatever we did,

1365
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I've been So I've

1366
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: been Yeah, but so I've been in like little like

1367
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 5: literally you know what I mean. Like and at the

1368
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 5: first in the first time, it was it was it

1369
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 5: was if it was it was awkward for me, but

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 5: it was refreshing them, Okay, I mean because because of

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: course there's like a there's like a you know, there's

1372
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 5: like a who saw that happens like after the fact,

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 5: right and then and then I can't deny, like you know,

1374
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 5: there's a period where you're waiting, You're waiting for the

1375
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 5: you're waiting for the results. You're sitting there and you're

1376
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 5: waiting for the results with your partner and you're like, ship,

1377
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 5: what if it comes back? When did it comes back post.

1378
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: You know, at home test?

1379
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell us about it. Bring the at home test? Yeah.

1380
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 5: So so so at home tests. And I definitely was

1381
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 5: seventeen with that test. That's very it's definitely, there's definitely

1382
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: it's definitely, there's definitely back in it. This is definitely

1383
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 5: within the next Lets we just said in the last decade,

1384
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 5: you know what I mean for sure?

1385
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, And where are you getting these at home tests?

1386
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: Let's for anyone want.

1387
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 5: They got a home tests everywhere, CBS, Amazon, same place

1388
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 5: you Amazon, they do home delivery, same place you go,

1389
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 5: you know, same place you go, you know to get

1390
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 5: a pack of Magnam said yell.

1391
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: The brand.

1392
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: The ones that I've used are or Quick and they're

1393
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 2: like dollars I think and Dwayne read I know some.

1394
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: But the ones that I've seen in the stores or

1395
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: Quick and it's quick and it's not even blood.

1396
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 5: It's so yeah, so so so that so there's that

1397
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 5: period of time where you're like, what if my test

1398
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 5: go that positive? Ship, where does she positive? You know

1399
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like, you know, but yeah, I.

1400
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: Mean wait, wait, now what would you do if the

1401
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: test did come back positive?

1402
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1403
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean not his test, but the other person,

1404
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, you know me.

1405
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm a human being. So the first thing I'm gonna

1406
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 5: the first thing I'm gonna do is try to be

1407
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 5: consoling or I'm probably gonna talk like this listen real, yeah,

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01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 5: I mean obviously they just got some news that is like, right,

1409
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 5: life changing, right do I do I just burn up

1410
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 5: the road to just leave, like absolutely not, Like you know,

1411
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna, you know, on a serious note, I'm gonna

1412
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 5: be as helpful as I can be. And and and

1413
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 5: you know, I'm assuming like this is somebody that I

1414
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: don't know that well, right, and maybe this is our

1415
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 5: first time, maybe we've been hanging out, we've been a

1416
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 5: few dates, whatever, and we decided that we were about

1417
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 5: to be intimate, and then we get that news. Like

1418
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna just like just roll out, like you know,

1419
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to try with with with with with

1420
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 5: Now I got it, And now of course I got

1421
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 5: cheat code advantage that I can call somebody literally from

1422
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 5: Gilliad or you know, somebody from my team. I can

1423
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 5: call and say, like Hevy in confidentiality, I have a

1424
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: friend and you know, and and try to be there

1425
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 5: like you know, that's that I would imagine that that

1426
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 5: would be like I can I can imagine.

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01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: And luckily, you know Senten right, because at the end

1428
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: of the day.

1429
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: There's a path of health forward regardless of your HIV status.

1430
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: Like there's prevention. You're already on prep, you know what

1431
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean. Like condoms, like the thing I think that

1432
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: people don't understand. We're all trying to force them to

1433
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: get tested. I feel like sometimes I'm screaming it is

1434
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: because the only problem is not knowing if you have it,

1435
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: you can control it.

1436
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: You get on medicine, you live life easy. But not

1437
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: only that, we see Magic Johnson and Cookie. Yeah, baby,

1438
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's also a path.

1439
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: Or a relationship and romantic partnership in all of these things,

1440
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 2: you know, with medication and things.

1441
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 5: But respectfully, though, when we talk about Magic Johnson the Cookie,

1442
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 5: be talking about a different generation, you know what I mean,

1443
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: Like that there's a whole enough, there's a whole enough

1444
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 5: that set of demographics you know, from what fourteen to

1445
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 5: twenty eight that may not they may not either they

1446
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 5: may they may not know or they don't care. You know.

1447
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

1448
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 2: I think at one point, especially seeing how long Magic

1449
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: Johnson has lived, there was quite a bit of time

1450
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: or an era where the conversation around HIV literally ceased

1451
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: to exist.

1452
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like they thought it just disappeared though he was,

1453
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: so I can definitely I'm back then. I was just like,

1454
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: ain't no way he paid somebody like he got the magic.

1455
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: Well, even I say, the generation under us, I think

1456
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: we definitely had enough education to know.

1457
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: How it was.

1458
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: I actually lost an aunt too to the virus, and so,

1459
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's interesting just now seeing that the

1460
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: conversation is coming back to the front, which I think

1461
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: is very important because you're right, Inge, I do think

1462
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,480
Speaker 2: like this younger generation right now just isn't having the conversation.

1463
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: And even though they're having less sex, I think with

1464
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: the sensationalizing of raw sex, I think these conversations go

1465
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: hand in hand. For sure.

1466
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 5: It makes it makes for it makes for a very

1467
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 5: dangerous time. You know. You think when you think about

1468
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 5: where we are, you know, on this political climate, and

1469
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 5: you think about what's what what, what's what it's potentially

1470
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 5: about to happen in terms of like insurance, growing up

1471
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 5: and care and.

1472
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: The deep funding of planned parenthood.

1473
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 5: It's like that, it's it's like the perfect storm. Yeah.

1474
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: I do want to also remind you guys that we did,

1475
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: in fact have an episode.

1476
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: This was maybe within our first year. We did have

1477
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: an episode where.

1478
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: Someone was born with HIV, so I'm gonna make sure

1479
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: to link that episode in the description here.

1480
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: But we spoke to someone who literally their.

1481
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: Mother had it and contracted it prior to being pregnant

1482
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: and they were born with HIV, so I'll be sure

1483
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: to link that episode as well in the description of

1484
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 2: this file.

1485
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, Rahiem, I do want to thank you so much

1486
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: for having this conversation with us. I guess if you

1487
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: can leave with a final words, I would love to know.

1488
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: Your final thoughts to getting tested and also just speaking

1489
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: to our male listeners as well.

1490
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 5: Again, you know, anybody is HIV possible, you know what

1491
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 5: I mean. So you know, have the conversations you need

1492
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 5: to have, you know, learn about crap, you know, see

1493
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 5: if it's for you, talk to your primary care physician

1494
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 5: about it, you know, educate yourself about it on it

1495
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 5: and and and and see if it's for you. And

1496
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 5: then and then of course for like all the things

1497
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 5: that we've been talking about, you can go to Healthy

1498
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 5: sexual or Healthy Sexuals with the s dot com, uh,

1499
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 5: you know, to give more information.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

1501
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something that you know that that we continue

1502
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 5: to fight and you know, create awareness about you know.

1503
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me on the platform. I look

1504
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 5: forward to the coming back and having more of a

1505
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 5: raw conversation.

1506
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: Yes, protected, protected, but protect Ratty.

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: Thank you so very much, And guys, we will be

1508
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: putting all of the resources and links in the description

1509
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: of this episode, make sure you also join us over

1510
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: on patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions where we're gonna

1511
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: continue the conversation but also provide you with those links

1512
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: and resources so that you can educate yourself on prep.

1513
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: The year is almost over, but you definitely want to

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Speaker 2: go into twenty twenty six knowing your status, so make

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Speaker 2: sure you go ahead and set up those appointments to

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Speaker 2: get tested. We highly encourage it, and we want to

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Speaker 2: thank you guys for being educated and edutained while.

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Speaker 1: Listening to this episode. Thank you so much, and we

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Speaker 1: will see you next week.